Concert Toms: Underrated or Actually Bad?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Ah Concert Toms, they've been all over some classic records we all love, but their reputation changes depending on who you ask.
Drummers can debate all day about how good they can sound, but signs of a major comeback are minimal.
Get ready to tell me how wrong I am!
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I personally love the huge concert tom sound, especially the Bill Stevenson sound which is a 16 inch rack tom and a 20 inch floor tom.
I've heard them sound great, I usually just can't quite find what I want.
I've played a full Rogers concert tom kit that was pretty incredible, and that had a 14" and 15".
Peart used concerts on his left and double heads for the rest which definitely worked beautifully for him. That obviously referred to his thousand tom kits from early.. ergonomically his later moutain climb kits were, in my opinion, more ergonomically better.
Yeah, having a mix is definitely best I reckon. I'd been on the hunt for a loose 10" Pearl Phenolic, so I can mix 2 in with the big Tama, but one hasn't popped up!
I like them both, but the double headed toms definitely sound fuller and fatter and smoother, with a bit longer sustain. I made myself a concert tom kit by taking the lugs off some of my extra toms ( i have way too many drums ) and filling the holes by gluing pieces of wooden dowels in the holes, sanded & painted, put new remo cs black dot heads cuz i like the look. I got 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, rack toms & 16, 18 inch floortoms
Plenty to play with there!
I'd probably go 8/10/12 concert toms, but the larger ones as standard!
funny idea with the koala as a kick muffler. gotta try that
He's a pretty handy mascot! Haha
Some drums get a better sound with no resonant head. On my old Pearl Forum kit I did this to the 12" tom only, and was able to tune it a bit higher without nasty overtones, and it also removed a ton of sympathetic snare wire rattle.
It really comes down to the sound you want too, I like higher toms to be punchier with very quick decay, the mid toms to have the longest decay, and standing floor toms thunderous, but with a shorter decay.
Yeah, it's great finding that sweet spot for any drum. 12" toms are a great size for concert toms in general, I just need to find a matching (with the Pearl) 10" for my kit! Haha
i always liked a 6 and 8" combo on a kit. no one uses 6" anymore. to hard to hit? i dunno
Yeah, 6" are hard to come by these days, you need to special order heads! Easier to get pre-international sizes.. haha
If you want concert times on your regular drum set the resident head use Remo silentstroke mesh heads for the bottom head have a concert Tom
Concert toms are not as versatile as standard two headed toms but under the right circumstances they can be really effective. They use them in orchestras and marching bands because they project. But in a rock context they can sound really cool too.They definitely have a unique sound that some people either love or hate. The trick with micing them is to put the mic inside the drum shell aimed up at the head. Since there's no bottom head you lose all the sympathetic resonance it provides the top head. So if you mic them off the rim like you would a double headed tom they're going to sound too thin. With concert toms the sound you want is inside the shell. That's where all the punch is. You get a richer sound too.
Good point, and I was tempted to mic inside the shell, but went with this approach for consistency.
It's definitely all down to preference, and it's good to have multiple ways of approaching a sound.
In the end, I can see why people hate them, but I've heard plenty of rubbish drum sounds with regular toms too! Haha
Well said Sir! : >)
@@menom7 It's Ms. but thanks.
Lol. My apologies for that! In today's "computer" world,it's hard to tell WHO is WHO! Lol. No hard feelings,and your very Welcome! @@Rhythmic1
I recently converted to a pseudo concert toms setup by replacing the reso heads with mesh heads. This way I can still use the reso hoops to keep everything tightened down to prevent lug rattle and protect the bearing edges to easily convert back if I choose. I also installed internal mics into all my toms and kick using a mixture of Gibraltar internal bass drum mic mounts, Randy May AVC-1C and AVC-2C internal non drill audio vent mic connectors, and Audix D2, D4, and D6 mics. So far I'm loving it! I've always enjoyed the Phil Collins gated reverb drum sound and I can now get that at gigs with my sound guy dialing it in. My band mates tell me it's the best sounding version of my kit they've ever heard
Yeah, if you don't have a proper concert tom kit it's good to protect those edges, and the mesh heads would interfere less than cutting wide holes in the bottom head, which I've also seen! Haha
i think in order to get a good concert tom sound, they really need to be cranked up
It certainly feels that way, and it's so conflicting for me when I'm always trying to get the most depth out of my drums!
@@THHDReviews yea i would guess only having 1 head would limit sound nuance possibilities
Tama Artstar Cordia !!!! Fantastic drums
Oh yes, get 'em while they're not Vintage Ludwig prices! Haha
Sorry,but I PREFER the sounds of Concert-toms!!! I LOVE the hollow-sounding and longer sounding response from them! True,there not as precise as two-headed drums are,and they also don't have that ear-shattering high-pitched sustain that roto-toms have,so I'd say they are nicely in between both sound-spectrums of each! My kit has all 3 in them. The 2-headed,a few concert-toms with some smaller roto-toms and they all sound amazing when rightly tuned to what your playing! : >)
Sounds like quite a versatile setup, I'd go with anything up to a 12, but anything bigger it'd be 2 headed.
I'll have to get a set of Rotos one day!
My kit IS a very versatile setup and Yes,many drummers either Love or Hate concert toms,and a few Love them but only up to a certain size! But I enjoy all of mine and Roto-toms have the same "feeling" with them as well! You either LOVE them or HATE them! Lol. But to ME,their an extremely versatile drum and they tune within a snap of a finger! So Yes,I encourage You to sit down to some Roto's and do a video on that,as I and many more,would Love to see You playing those!
:>) @@THHDReviews
Really nice sounding drums and cymbals, there. Really nice playing! I thought that whole kit sounded great
Cheers mate, these old Tamas are great, ey! Haha
Kick sounds so good. Itd be a monster with emads on front and back
I've had them before, and what I've got is basically the Remo version on the playing side (Powerstroke Pro), but I love the classic felt strip for the front. I try to keep internal dampening to a minimum..
definitely a time n place thing imo
Koala muffler FTW
Don't forget the genuine vintage 90s car carpet.. it makes you drum better!
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Here are single headed toms at their best. Lynyrd skynyrd on the hunt
Yes they can be tuned and mic'd with little compression and record well though not my preference. Just like Fords.
Concert toms=🤘 power toms=🤮
Haha, well I hope for you they make a comeback, but I'm power toms all the way!
@@THHDReviews rock em!!!!