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Why Sith Get So Much WEAKER As They Age - Star Wars Explained
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Jedi: We age like fine wine.
Sith: It's better to burn out, than to fade away!
Jedi: we are the righteous who serve heaven
Sith: we are the nightmare demons who rule hell....
eesh....
Except they don't 'burn out'... numerous Sith were documented to have lived for hundreds of years.
@@darthXreven What an Oversimplification lmao.
Jedi: We practice healthy lifestyle
Sith: YOLO! we do drugs and alcohol
One prime example you missed was Darth Zash from SWTOR. She was presented as a beautiful, rational, calm, and even motherly master for the inquisitor at times. However, it was a ploy. In the Dark Temple, she revealed her old haggard form that in the words of the inquisitor “made Rodians look kissable”. She was using rituals to keep her body vivified and youthful. But it wasn’t enough. Eventually the body would give out, so she sought alternatives. She stumbled upon Essence Transfer when reading Tulak Hord’s records. She spent 5 years finding the inquisitor, training them, and gathering the artifacts only to be stopped by the Inquisitor and their friend/servant Khem Val.
Why did the Inquisitors kill Darth Zash? Cause she wanted to stay youthful??
That’s not what kit fisto told me
@@thalmoragent9344 You'd have to play SWToR as an Inquisitor. She's an NPC you have to deal with as you climb the ranks of the Sith Inquisition. She was doing... some extremely shady things. Even for a Sith.
SWToR is in a grey area between Legends and Canon. Disney has used countless plot points from SWToR, but have not brought up ALL of them. The entire storyline of SWToR is approved by the Story Board - so it SHOULD be a canon retelling of that time period. Including Revan, Darth Vitiate, etc. For some reason a lot of fans think SWToR is entirely Legends - but it has the Story Board logo. (The Story Board is who approves modern canon.) I think half the community just enjoys hating on Disney, so they refuse to accept that Disney has allowed any cool lore into the canon.
If that chick wasn't a dumbass she wouldn't of tried to transfer into her overpowered apprentice but instead find a different candidate
Agreed. The darkside is like drugs. You get great power but at a terrible cost. That's why most sith looked to finding ways to achieve immortality or rituals (such as force drain etc) to sustain their bodies/life in the force.
Force degradation aside, sith themselves were their biggest enemy. Its within their own creed. Gaining power is everything. Sith underlings will take any opportunity to seize power from their masters for their own ambitions or if they deemed them weak or no longer useful.
The sith way of life is pretty animalistic. Sort of similar to a lion. A lion is in his prime and then its killed or ousted from another group of powerful lions and the cycle never ends.
“Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.
Luke only lived past 100 in Legends. He dies at 53 in Disney Canon.
It happens to everyone as they age: we all go from Angry Young Person to Grouchy Old Person. With the exception of my ex-wife (A true Queen of the Sith), it is almost impossible to stay angry all the time. Just remember the old adage: Age and Treachery will almost always overcome Youth and Skill.
Was your ex wife later killed by her much younger apprentice?
Not even true
This is amazing! Is this from the Book of Sith? If not, it should be.
Strong in the dark side she is.
But fun aside you didn't notice something is wrong while your girlfriend is named shievv
@@---bg9dq Yeah but she was crazy hot.....yes, it was so worth it at the time.
It makes sense in that the aging Sith needs to divert more and more of their power to holding their failing bodies together. But that itself is a downward spiral because they are using Dark Side power that also accelerates their physical decay. This is why some of the strongest who manage to live a long time become undead-like beings. Their bodies just fail completely, and they are either strong enough to keep them moving like puppets or else they outright die. Even Palpatine visibly struggled with this problem both in canon and Legends. In Legends, his clone bodies deteriorated very quickly and he wanted to try possessing Leia's child in the hope that a natural body would hold together for longer.
It's better known as dark side degeneration. Prime example of this would be Darth bane in the final book for he has begun to weaken physically despite being in his 40s. In regards to the palpatine clones however, it wasn't just dark side degeneration, we learned that the clones were tampered with to age rapidly. Coupled with heavy use of the dark side palpatine would burn through the clones at an alarming rate. That's why he opted at the very end to transfer his soul to a completely different body. But ultimately that's the nature of the dark side. It gives you great power in the short term, but exacts a heavy toll for it.
@@timothyeckard5182 - Which should be an easier way for Jedi to explain to their Padawans why the Dark Side is bad, rather than just stoking ambiguous fears and spreading misinformation. In both canon and Legends, the Dark Side is only easier in the *beginning.* But as you try to move on to more advanced powers it's demands steadily increase and the price you pay for more power grows exponentially until you start having to sacrifice everything you have just to keep your life.
@@daniels7907 some young padawans want to take shortcuts to achieve greatness, and it often leads them down the dark path. And soon they start pursuing power for its own sake. But they learn too little too late that the dark side is a double edged sword. As they are killing their enemies they are slowly being poisoned themselves.
@Moshin Rafsanjani I think that's because they both used both the Light and Dark side. The degradation is probably at least partially canceled out.
@Moshin Rafsanjani yes he did btw
I agree, the Dark Side offers tremendous, yet unnatural, power in the force but its give and take and it shows as time goes by. The Light side in contrast gives back in return for maintaining true balance in the Force and assisting the innocent whenever necessary. A good example would be not just Luke Skywalker but also Jedi Master Fei, said to be the purest Jedi in the order.
Luke is still able to use Dark Side abilities though. Or at least he did in the EU before Disney got rid of it.
The Dark Side is like crack, highly addictive, corrodes your body the longer you use it, but also makes you extremely durable, strong, and fast. Hence crackhead strength.
I think the reason he was the only sith to go through his entire rain without getting betrayed or backstabbed and died of natural causes he was a good leader everybody was flourishing under him everybody was getting better under him people don't replace a great leader that's helping everyone people replace a leader they feel is weak or selfish
Exactly!!! I didn't even have to address this point myself.
Wages of sin is death have the chapter and verse tattooed inside a grim reaper on my back
I love your content bro I’ve been watching for years ❤️
Is that keanu Reeves at 8:40 ?
Well, power corrupts... quite literally in this case.
I remember watching a lot of your vids a few years back, it’s wild how much you’ve improved in almost every regard, keep it up thanks for making so much good content
I died because the force wouldn't serve me anymore.
It could be simply boiled down to the fact that when you're older you've already seen everything you've already lived through everything lot less s*** for you to be mad about and you're more in control of your emotions for a Jedi that can only make you more powerful but for a sith means you're losing your edge
I think it’s also important to remember they wanted immortality but not eternal youth
They obviously don't care much about their looks. That was why fans were so creeped out by the idea of Palpy being a father and grandfather.
@@daniels7907 true but I think this goes beyond physical appearance. Eternal youth is also about eternal vitality.
Because even the Sith cannot escape the law of Karma.
Too much dark power and evil deeds in the quest for further power will only degrade and destroy you in the long run.
Very few have been able to escape that fact.
But in the old republic, some Sith lived longer than a millennium.
The Wages of Sin is an album by Arch Enemy. Kicks ass.
Well yeah age makes you weak anyways but wouldn't you be stronger in the force as you age?
Yes. Either light or dark, you get more powerful in the force as you age. This video barely makes sense.
But the darkside is a poison. The more you use it, the more you deteriorate. Look how quickly sidious body deformed with his duel with mace windu. He never looked the same again. Nor did he ever heal or revert back to his previous state.
Yes very true
You become more skilled in the Force. I believe your raw potential decreases a bit, though. I remember Yoda reflecting on how he could once lift all seven muntaur (sp?) stones, but in his advanced age, he could only lift five.
Not really. The old seem more powerful because they have more spiritual wisdom than the young. Remember the Force is granted via midiclorians that inhabit a body. If the body becomes unable to house them, they don’t give as much power.
Very cool, nice content
Appropriately, "the wages of sin is death" is a good line when referring to wickedness of very well any evil.
It does lead me to wonder if this degradation is merely within a given individual's lifespan, or regardless or it; would a Sith of a species known for longevity still get that, or would even they waste away after a "mere" handful of decades? Kenobi was firmly in the tenants of the Light, but even he did his best Murtough impression, claiming to Luke he was getting too old for this, in Star Wars.
There do seem to be limits. Everyone appears to age faster on Tatooine, probably due to UV from two suns. Besides, a part of the reason that the Jedi usually live longer is that they produce more apprentices to do dangerous missions so that Masters don't have to. That's basically the entire story of Obi-Wan and Yoda training Luke to commit patricide.
Another analogy of the Sith and the Jedi is the race of the hare and the turtle the Jedi are the turtle and the Sith are the the rabbit
for me, it is like Natural bodybuilding and Bodybuilding with Steroids. Natural Bodybuilding will take longer to get the gains, Bodybuilding with Steroids will get gains faster but there are health problems with age.
Can you imagine a Sith apprentice who becomes a dark Jedi who actually acts like an antihero? Let me explain. Imagine he leaves his evil master but doesn’t abandon his dark side yet he doesn’t attack Jedi or people, instead he becomes a dark side hero who protects innocents while still using his anger and dark side powers. The Jedi try to arrest him for being chaotic and sith try to hunt him to turn him to their ranks or outright kill him but he stands alone while being praised as a sort of Robin Hood type who helps the people who can’t protect themselves but still kills and attacks anyone who are a threat to him and he tries to do the right thing. It would be interesting in my opinion. He wouldn’t be powerful however since he would be in complete conflict with the sides.
Good video i also like that your videos Are not to long when you dont have time
Strangely Palpatine didn't
He was in his 80s in Return of the Jedi wasn't he?
It's almost like sith don't get weaker with age
I don't recall any signs of Vitiate slowing down in his old age....
Then again, he could have been a LOT stronger when he was.... 10.
@@Han-rw9ev I was weak then but now I am a god.
@@Han-rw9ev vitiate, palpatine and nihilus were some of the exceptions. Sith powerful in the force or knowledgeable were able to use techniques to extend their life greatly, sustain their bodies and maintain power. But this wasn't common considering there's been dozens of sith Lords from 5000BBY.
@@Han-rw9ev Vitiate also abused Essence Transfer. So age was never an issue to begin with
I would love to see a video on a stormtrooper sith or a clone trooper sith
lowkey Scion was able to stave off death by degradation by use of his immense hatred
Force is tied with prostate health! Get checked my lords!
same thing happens to dark witches 😮😮 they become disfigured and decayed
Star Wars needs to dip its toes into “What If” scenarios. For example: What if Darth Vader found Luke and Leia were his children?
Well.. he did. Eventually 🤣
@@zippo5294 I meant from the very beginning
@@macwelch8599 I got it I’m just messing with you 🤣
@@zippo5294 ok
Go read the Star Wars Infinities Comics. In one Leia is captured after the Battle of Yavin and found to be Force Sensitive. It gets pretty crazy after that.
In my mind Luke lived a long time also that guy that died was the clone Luk.
It'd make Sense if Tennebrae inhabited Marka Ragnos for his first life then inhabited another body later continuing his rule from the shadows to support this theory we have the way that "Valkorian" ruled over the Eternal Empire
That’s not the case. Tenebrae was a Sith who ruled under Ragnos and was even gifted his name Vitiate by him. It was after the disastrous war against the republic that Vitiate lead his followers away.
ORDER 66
Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to WRINKLES!!!!
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS!
No mystery here. Hate burns a short fuse.
The sith especially during the age of the Old Republic is like the Mafia but with extra steps
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
It's the rule of 1 sith now that Sidious is immortal
Dark side of the force. Fast path to power but also fast path to death.
Get grow far more powerful by age but their flesh body can't hold that much dark power so it degraded them you also forget freedon nadd die by old age after the 100 years of ruling, the source never stated that nadd got less powerful by age exar kun was so physically gifted that he never suffered from dark side degradation
Me reading the title:
My mind:What about Palpatine??
What about Dooku? How old was he when he died?
So, if what Stupendous Wave is true, then would someone who hypothetically had both light and dark side energies flowing through them end up living a normal life span?
I ask this because in my head, the life giving properties of the light and degrading properties of the dark might cancel each other out. Let me know what you guys think of my theory, as I’m deeply interested in that concept.
The idea that Gravid MIGHT have been the "Mad Sith" that died of old Age's apprentice IS interesting BUT if that theory is true... Begs question of HOW he lived so long. An WHY he never went through with the traditional Rule of 2 ideology wether felt compared to do so or not
I was going to liken a Dark Side user's degradation to something like tensing/flexing a muscle, as in you can't do it for long periods of time without getting weak. But the steroids analogy is waaaaaay better!I don't have a single friend who has used steroids in the past live to see 50.
Darth Vevtius and his appearance are sith I would love to know more about. If information can be dug up on those two I would love to see it.
Paul lived "many decades" after the Hundred Years War, but Dark Jedis don't count?
Yes I agree
It is literally just like taking steroids 😂 that really hit
when Qui-Gon got killed...(he was old, died because he was exhausted)..... you great this again and again edit when the Sidious fan boys speak of him. He somehow grew a more powerful with each passing day with more endurance, etc.
This is bullshit. Vader should have taken him out years before... he just somehow never had the balls.
Please do not ever mention Vectivus or his pathetic apprentice ever again , they were disgraces to The Sith Order.
I think Revenge of The Sith or Darth Plagueis books describe this as a thirst to prove themselves as the strongest.
What about lord vitiate extreme ritual live for thousands of years without switching bodies
Being a Sith is such a dead end road. Between having to worry about keeping their bodies intact and being betrayed, a person would have to wonder why ppl willingly sign up for a life of constantly being paranoid other than the prospect of gaining power. It's just not worth it.
Meanwhile palpatine:
There were not many sith in his time.🤣🤣
The immortal dead one begs to disagree
Sith live inherently violent lives of struggle, such is the will of the dark side, only the strongest survive and prosper. But the longer you live, the more conflict you encounter, and the greater the chance you will fall short. The dark side accelerates this it doesn't want old men whose aging bodies can barely contain it's power, it hungers for new flesh to infect and turn to its will. Sith live short lives because the very force they serve wills it.
There is likely a mental and emotional aspect to the degradation of dark side users too. A person, no matter how psychopathic or sociopathic, can only hold onto negative feelings of strong intensity for so long before they become numb to it. A lot like pain and other such feelings or emotions, as well. But that constant effort and the dark side need to reinforce the driving emotions means that burning out can happen fast, regardless of rather its anger, rage, hatred, feelings of revenge or ambition that drives their connection to the dark side. They always need more and more over time.
So while the physical degradation is one part of the problem, I bet the mental aspect is the other side of the same coin.
They get weaker physically but their force power doesn’t. It’s just used at a higher rate for each task than a young force user. Like stated, reflexes, will, strength, speed, and amount of force power needed to keep up with their younger self or others is drained and ran thru much faster. Like Yoda for instance. He was super powerful but without the force he could barely walk. I’m sure he had to use it most of the time just to move. And when in combat he had to use it at a high capacity (depending on who he’s fighting and how long) to keep up with powerful force users and long term encounters. He would run thru his reserve way quicker than a younger Yoda would. If Yoda was a Sith or a dark side user, he probably would’ve been long dead before he died in canon. Or he would’ve looked twice his age and been ridiculously deformed
It is only natural, that our muscles are not as strong as they were when we were young. Sith are no different. Neither are Jedi. As an senior citizen in "A New Hope" Obi-Wan was nowhere near as powerful, like he was as a younger gentleman. Growing old is a part of life. He was much wiser, however.
Darth jar jar only gained more power
Vectavis had a female apprentice
Think of it like the boss of a criminal organization. You are the man, everyone wants to be the man.
what about Palpatine
Palpatine
Simple greed
This might be obivious to alot people espically people educated within the medical field. But too many negative emeotions can affect once phcyical and mental health. Allowing yourself to feel too many negative emotions, like anger, depression, lonliness etc, can give you heart problems and lower your immunue system, these emotions also affects your brain's ability to produce happiness. Star Wars just takes all of this and make 100 times worse.
The Force itself kinda stacks the deck against Sith.
Lol then hey reigned for a couple more thousand years 🤘
That's simply they got old so there bodys carnt forcase the force like they would be able in there prime it's WY they try not to get old and chose death by there student
*looks at Sidious in Movies 7-9* huuuuuuuuuuuh what? This guy literally is more of a God than anything else
Dark Moal was born whit yelow eays, how dus that efekt the body, is being whit efinety whit the darkside more durabol in perserving there bodys.
What must a sith do to comand respekt and loyalty from there underling, when that is agent the code and nature of the sith?
Species born near a Dark Side nexus have a much easier time adapting to using the Dark Side.
Mace Windu is kind of the same being born near one himself who has a natural attunement to the Dark Side as well.
The Sith 🙄
Bunch of clowns
So in the long run you wanna be a jedi🤣
Order 66
I don't know about Sith getting weaker. It's more like they find a potential student and train them until they are stronger than they were.
And then it's time to go..
And if the student isn't showing signs of progress, it's time to get a new one...
Rule of 2 limits elder sith. Palpatine got stronger with age.
and people actually choose this path
Also overconfidence as they get older.
How old was Luke when he died? The sequel movie say over 50 but you say more than 100 yaers old?
This reminds me of the Book the Towers of Sunset where the magic system was more chaos vs order rather then good vs evil. Where chaos caused immediate change but destroyed the user over time while order prevented change and the users lived long lives.
It's like as a sith you get this blazing hot fire and the longer it stays the weaker it becomes
But Palpatine got stronger, right?
solution: don’t age
Dark Side = Drugs, sex, and rock n roll.
That verse is from the Bible.
I don't care what my Sith peers and elders would think of my actions. I would treat my followers, troops, subjects, slaves, and droids as actual living beings with a right to (relative) happiness. My compassion for all in my power base would be unquestionable as I'd put my life on the line for those that have served me faithfully.
But such compassion would make me seem weak in the eyes of my cruel brethren of darkness. Only through the total defeat of those that would question my honor and way of living could I uphold my "abnormal" moral standards and still be Sith. But in all honesty I'd be assassinated by jealous rivals or treacherous schemers that see my Sith lifestyle as perverted or weak.
Power. With great power and loyal agents I could prevent such a plot or attempt on my life. But if someone very high in the Sith hierarchy (like Ancient Sith/Dark Council tier) wants me crippled or dead there's very little I could do stop them from seeking me out and ending my existence.
Darth millennial 😂
Your hate is weak.
First like 😊
Ypu forgot anikan
Anakin used Dark Side Tethering to keep his life in tact. Any proficient Dark Sider can do this by focusing on their particular vice emotion they drew the most strength from.
Doesn't the dark side deform and deteriorate the body over years of using it
Nevermind he mentioned it 🤣lol