Thank YOU! Got my Gibraltar double bass pedal effortlessly purring smoothly now with more solid kicks than ever! The place I bought it set it in for me and it had two springs on both sides. I had to really get in there to get a hard kick out of it. Now I can do so much more than before! Great informational Video! 🥁😀👍
Thank you for this video. I've been playing for 58 years and finally ready to add some spice to my songs. I just bought a Tama double pedal set and had no idea there was so much to it.
@@PowuhToSeven It's probably better that you are a beginner. Since I have playing Rock for so long it has always been on a single Bass drum and now I am in Kind of in a rut.
Producers are probably going to argue for the hihat being further away from the snare to begin with, so that the hihat mic bleeds less over the snare mic. Even though I’m using an electronic drumset, I don’t mind the hihat being further away for practice. Because if I ever do get to record with an acoustic drumset, I won’t have to readjust my playing technique to the hihat suddenly being further away from the snare.
Thrilled you found it amazing, @surgescorp! If you're on the lookout for more great tips, especially around pedal setups, our detailed lessons on our site might be of interest: welcome.drum.dog
Thank you sooo much. I was realy frustrated with my HiHat/ double Bass Pedal Setup, because i didnt had the idea to put the double Bass Pedal on the left Side of the HiHat Pedal. Now im satisfied with my setup :D
I’ve been playing for over 20 years and still found this helpful. Pedal settings have always been a mysterious voodoo for me lol just set it up when I first got it and left it that way, but when you start trying to push into faster tempos you need to be a bit more methodical about it.
Like 3 years ago I took apart my double bass pedal for cleaning and maintenance and ever since then I haven't quite found the right setting I once had before taking it apart. I remember that pedal feel like a lost paradise now, I this video helps me find it again tomorrow on the drum kit.
Finding that once perfect pedal setting can be a challenge, but we're glad to hear the video might steer you in the right direction. Keep rockin', Daniel!
Well, I actually like the increased resistance of the slave pedal (on a Tama Speed Cobra). I wish I could set the main pedal to that same level of resistance, but the spring tension already seems to be maxed out to me. At least if I try to pull down the spring even further, I can’t turn the bottom screw any further to keep the spring in that even-higher-tension position.
Great video man! I'm always looking for ways to set up my gear more effectively and I think this vid had a lot of really good points. Setting the left and right sides to different tensions to compensate for lag is not something I've thought to do before, so thank you!
Great job on this and your previous bass pedal adjustments video. Your advice on proper double pedal maintenance would be great as well! What needs to be done to keep them performing like new? Do the bearings, springs, chain-links, pins, shafts, couplings and universal joints need to be oiled/lubed? How, what and when to do it? As you mentioned, useful energy is lost via friction, especially on the slave pedal side, so it's important to reduce it as much as possible. Proper bar setup, lubrication and universal joint angles should be discussed as well. I have never seen a comprehensive video on this overall topic. PS: WD-40 attracts moisture that will cause rust. Thanks!
This advice is already wrong. Is the cam and your technique that determines the return speed. Watch Secret Weapons for the modern drummer for all the details on this but the essence is that the faster the beater goes different forward the super slower it goes backwards towards your leg. It's the geometry of the cam that determines this.
Idk why but I could change anything and it still feels the same. So hard to push and the right pedal rebounds a lot more despite having the same setup as the left one. Technical stuff is annoying
Use an oversized patch of velcro and attach the rough side (as in, not the soft bushy side) under your slave pedal. It will cause a ton of friction that won't permit it to slide along the carpet when played. The more area you can cover under your pedal the better. Works wonders when the spurs aren't enough over carpet.
I mainly play guitar but I’m getting back into drumming. I forgot how much goes into a drum setup not to mention proper technique. Looking forward to getting my groove back! Great video!
I can't seem to find anyone talking about "lag" on the slave pedal. I have the dw9000 and the slave pedal has so much lag and resistance to it. When I do the test to see if the beaters swing the same, my slave pedal only swings a few times then completely stops, where everyone else's they go for quite a bit longer.
Slave pedals usually have increased resistance, but shouldn't have any lag? Check over the mechanism carefully for any loose connections, especially where the driveshaft meets the pedal.
@@drumdog Yeah I actually checked right after that comment, and I believe it's the drive shaft that is the problem. Going to buy a new one and test it out. Appreciate the response :)
@@SomeoneWitSkill if you’re going to buy a new driveshaft I HIGHLY recommend buying one made by Trick drums! Their driveshafts eliminate almost all the lag from the slave pedal and they have one made to fit DW pedals. Trick pedals and their accessories are probably the best in the market!
Great video, the second hand pedal I just bought to try this out has Velcro pads on the underside of the slave, so no movement at all. Putting the slave to the left of the hihat is a clever idea‼️✌️
Just got my double pedal and got it close but it needed tweaking so thanks for the info. Subbed …now if I can only magically get my speed up I’ll be happy.
Really glad you found this helpful! If you're looking for some tips on how to play faster doubles then please do check out our website ( drum.dog ) when you get the chance, Nick has put together a few videos covering techniques that should help, cheers! 🙂
Banger video, just got my first double pedal, coincidentally, that exact same iron cobra. Since I got it used I just got done fuly dismantling it and cleaning/greasing it up for work, and was just about to get to the setup phase. Timing couldn't be better!
Honestly your advice did not help. You talk in expert ways that make you sound arrogant, just speak normal and your advice would he easier to understand
the longer the shaft to the slave pedal, the more energy will be lost through the shaft. I tried doing the move the pedal to the left of the hi-hat but its not worth the extra effort you have to put into it especially when you're learning. The better solution is to either move your hats to the right side of the kit and get a remote pedal to operate it, or to do what I do and take two shitty old cymbals and stack them like a hi-hat and have that on my right side next to my ride cymbal and that way you can have your open hats on the left of you that you can play the old fashioned way and have the drop clutch hats on the right for when you need the slosh without the ringing of the open hats.
Close but not quite: it's not the length of the driveshaft, but the angle of the universal joints that saps the energy. The greater the angle, the more loss. The shaft length makes no difference, but a longer shaft usually comes hand in hand with a greater angle at both joints.
Thank YOU! Got my Gibraltar double bass pedal effortlessly purring smoothly now with more solid kicks than ever!
The place I bought it set it in for me and it had two springs on both sides. I had to really get in there to get a hard kick out of it. Now I can do so much more than before!
Great informational Video!
🥁😀👍
The high hat position was killing me! your video just resolved this… THANK YOU!
I havent watched this video yet but this guy seems like an honest guy who wont make me feel like my cheap pedal doesnt do shit
Fuck this shit I don't have 800 fucking dollars to pay for a fucking padal I'm quiting drums
This has been the best tutorial on TH-cam about setting up your doble pedal. Subscribed.
Thank you for this video. I've been playing for 58 years and finally ready to add some spice to my songs. I just bought a Tama double pedal set and had no idea there was so much to it.
Have major fun!
58 years?!? Wow
Bro I'm a beginner with the same set 🍻
@@LegoMaster5197 Yes 58 and and in a couple of months I will be 65. There is NO age limit to ROCK!
@@PowuhToSeven It's probably better that you are a beginner. Since I have playing Rock for so long it has always been on a single Bass drum and now I am in Kind of in a rut.
This video was incredibly helpful. Thank you to all who were involved.
Producers are probably going to argue for the hihat being further away from the snare to begin with, so that the hihat mic bleeds less over the snare mic. Even though I’m using an electronic drumset, I don’t mind the hihat being further away for practice. Because if I ever do get to record with an acoustic drumset, I won’t have to readjust my playing technique to the hihat suddenly being further away from the snare.
This is exactly the video I needed to see. Thank you!!! 🙌🏻
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing insight. Thank you
Thrilled you found it amazing, @surgescorp! If you're on the lookout for more great tips, especially around pedal setups, our detailed lessons on our site might be of interest: welcome.drum.dog
Hi I am from Jamaica W.I. your video has been very helpful.
Great tips and not just for beginners!
Bro! What a solid and informative video, A+ content and delivery. Just earned a new subscriber here in the US.
Thanks Bro, glad to have you on boared
Thanks for this detailed video along with some superb playing. I learnt so much from your suggestions.
Excellent video!!! Thanks!!!
Glad you liked it!
Question does how you tune your kick drum heads affect the pedals too ?
If your petal is sliding buy velcro at home depot with a thin rug .
It sounded like you were playing one of the fight songs from Naruto!!!!
Thank you sooo much. I was realy frustrated with my HiHat/ double Bass Pedal Setup, because i didnt had the idea to put the double Bass Pedal on the left Side of the HiHat Pedal. Now im satisfied with my setup :D
I’ve been playing for over 20 years and still found this helpful. Pedal settings have always been a mysterious voodoo for me lol just set it up when I first got it and left it that way, but when you start trying to push into faster tempos you need to be a bit more methodical about it.
Glad to help!
Like 3 years ago I took apart my double bass pedal for cleaning and maintenance and ever since then I haven't quite found the right setting I once had before taking it apart. I remember that pedal feel like a lost paradise now, I this video helps me find it again tomorrow on the drum kit.
Finding that once perfect pedal setting can be a challenge, but we're glad to hear the video might steer you in the right direction. Keep rockin', Daniel!
Well, I actually like the increased resistance of the slave pedal (on a Tama Speed Cobra). I wish I could set the main pedal to that same level of resistance, but the spring tension already seems to be maxed out to me. At least if I try to pull down the spring even further, I can’t turn the bottom screw any further to keep the spring in that even-higher-tension position.
Why does the left pedal set lower than the right pedal? I have a pearl entry level pedal.
Came here for the hi hat advice and learned a lot more. Thank you much!
11 minute video... i just wanna play smh
Great video man! I'm always looking for ways to set up my gear more effectively and I think this vid had a lot of really good points. Setting the left and right sides to different tensions to compensate for lag is not something I've thought to do before, so thank you!
Now try again but in English? 😅
Great job on this and your previous bass pedal adjustments video. Your advice on proper double pedal maintenance would be great as well! What needs to be done to keep them performing like new? Do the bearings, springs, chain-links, pins, shafts, couplings and universal joints need to be oiled/lubed? How, what and when to do it? As you mentioned, useful energy is lost via friction, especially on the slave pedal side, so it's important to reduce it as much as possible. Proper bar setup, lubrication and universal joint angles should be discussed as well. I have never seen a comprehensive video on this overall topic. PS: WD-40 attracts moisture that will cause rust. Thanks!
Thanks for this amazing video! 15 years playing and still learning few things here 🤓👌
yeah but wheres the tutorial on how to set it up
Thank you so much it was really helpful!
You're welcome, Richard! Super glad you found the video helpful. If there's anything specific you'd like to see next, feel free to drop a suggestion!
This advice is already wrong. Is the cam and your technique that determines the return speed. Watch Secret Weapons for the modern drummer for all the details on this but the essence is that the faster the beater goes different forward the super slower it goes backwards towards your leg. It's the geometry of the cam that determines this.
Idk why but I could change anything and it still feels the same. So hard to push and the right pedal rebounds a lot more despite having the same setup as the left one.
Technical stuff is annoying
Use an oversized patch of velcro and attach the rough side (as in, not the soft bushy side) under your slave pedal. It will cause a ton of friction that won't permit it to slide along the carpet when played. The more area you can cover under your pedal the better. Works wonders when the spurs aren't enough over carpet.
take a 5 to 10 pound barbell and zip tie it to the pedal base ......and it will keep it from moving
4:26 some of the best information ever!
I mainly play guitar but I’m getting back into drumming. I forgot how much goes into a drum setup not to mention proper technique. Looking forward to getting my groove back! Great video!
I can't seem to find anyone talking about "lag" on the slave pedal. I have the dw9000 and the slave pedal has so much lag and resistance to it. When I do the test to see if the beaters swing the same, my slave pedal only swings a few times then completely stops, where everyone else's they go for quite a bit longer.
Slave pedals usually have increased resistance, but shouldn't have any lag? Check over the mechanism carefully for any loose connections, especially where the driveshaft meets the pedal.
@@drumdog Yeah I actually checked right after that comment, and I believe it's the drive shaft that is the problem. Going to buy a new one and test it out.
Appreciate the response :)
@@SomeoneWitSkill if you’re going to buy a new driveshaft I HIGHLY recommend buying one made by Trick drums! Their driveshafts eliminate almost all the lag from the slave pedal and they have one made to fit DW pedals. Trick pedals and their accessories are probably the best in the market!
Great video, the second hand pedal I just bought to try this out has Velcro pads on the underside of the slave, so no movement at all. Putting the slave to the left of the hihat is a clever idea‼️✌️
Holy smokes I just found HopPoleStudios brother!!!
If my slave pedal doesn't bounce back and forth like yours does at 7:07, that means there's an issue doesn't it?
This was really well made: obviously useful ideas presented clearly. Thank you!
I use angle irons that are drilled into plywood for the hat and slave pedals
Just got my double pedal and got it close but it needed tweaking so thanks for the info. Subbed …now if I can only magically get my speed up I’ll be happy.
Really glad you found this helpful! If you're looking for some tips on how to play faster doubles then please do check out our website ( drum.dog ) when you get the chance, Nick has put together a few videos covering techniques that should help, cheers! 🙂
One of the best videos I've encountered concerning double kick set up. Thankyou!
Banger video, just got my first double pedal, coincidentally, that exact same iron cobra. Since I got it used I just got done fuly dismantling it and cleaning/greasing it up for work, and was just about to get to the setup phase. Timing couldn't be better!
This is very very useful and well-explained, every drummer with any kind of problems with it's double pedal should see this video. Thanks a lot!
For some reason I can't get any power in my slave pedal
One of the most comprehensive videos on topic out there. Thanks you very much.
just got my first dbl kick after playing for years. this is so thorough and clear, thank you so much
This is such a great help thank you!
This is a phenomenal video, thanks a lot!
excellent detailed instructions truly professional thank you
Thanks for watching!
the best tutorial
Truly thank you!
thank you so much!
Get to the point.
Great detailed outline and advise on set up!
Honestly your advice did not help. You talk in expert ways that make you sound arrogant, just speak normal and your advice would he easier to understand
😂
the longer the shaft to the slave pedal, the more energy will be lost through the shaft. I tried doing the move the pedal to the left of the hi-hat but its not worth the extra effort you have to put into it especially when you're learning. The better solution is to either move your hats to the right side of the kit and get a remote pedal to operate it, or to do what I do and take two shitty old cymbals and stack them like a hi-hat and have that on my right side next to my ride cymbal and that way you can have your open hats on the left of you that you can play the old fashioned way and have the drop clutch hats on the right for when you need the slosh without the ringing of the open hats.
Close but not quite: it's not the length of the driveshaft, but the angle of the universal joints that saps the energy. The greater the angle, the more loss. The shaft length makes no difference, but a longer shaft usually comes hand in hand with a greater angle at both joints.