Promarker vs Copic....... Which is worth it? Don't forget if you wanted to grab yourself a set like I had in the video, Links in the description. - Also, regarding the storm, me and my wife are fine and safe. our area was hit HARD but we are on high ground, so we didn't suffer like our town which had 1m+ deep water running through. Unfortunate this has happened especially that its effected my in laws SO bad. My wife is panicking, but we will do what we can. Anyways, I hope EVERYONE missing is found safe and it's truly a tragedy so many lost their lives.
my personal biggest problem with Promarker/brushmarker is their size. Because of it, i cannot use it precisely as i want. The body of marker hide the nib/brush from me and i cannt actualy see what i am drawing. Also they are not so comfortable in my hand (personal experience, too bulky for me). This is why i prefer Copic more. But, those white dots on a paper after using copics bugs me too.
I think you should stress test the Copic markers in a Children's coloring book and see how they handle that paper. We already know how the promarkers handle it.
I have been using copic markers for years now, and one the biggest things I will say about them is this: Copics need cardstock, Bristol, or marker paper to function properly. You can use sketch, watercolor, or mixed media paper, but you will notice the pigment separation.
I will go the pro markers, because they are cheaper, blend better, and softer then the Copic markers. and I don't wont to spend over $5,000 just to get markers that don't work with all paper... also here is an idea... Ohuhu markers vs Artify markers cheap vs expensive
@@robloxnoob1462 no it’s still not that much 5 packs of 72 is 300-400 per set which is less than 2000, the price of copics is only double the price of promarkers
I think he over sold the paper thing. I much prefer Promarkers over Copics, but you shouldnt be using them on "any type" of paper as you will bled them dry pretty quickly if you do. Also they look far superior on marker paper than other types, although I hear what he is saying about texture. Edit to add: also it's still not a fair point to make. They are made to be used with a certain type of paper, which Promarkers are also, even though they are more versatile A fair test would be to use the proper paper they were intended for. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a range rover and testing them on an off road track, its not using them how they should be to get a fair result.
@@cnsmooth did you watch the video? Copic is a huge company who sells their markers for a few thousand for a full complete set yet they still don't workmon most surfaces. They have pretty much no excuse
Hey there I have recommendation: "PAPER ART | Cheap vs Expensive!! Which is WORTH IT..?". I know it won't be interesting as the marker but this will give some what general idea what type of paper works the best with a marker.
That speckling will occur on all paper types. I have never tried winsor and newton brush or promarkers personally. It's usually when you reach so many layers, of course thicker paper usually takes more layers than copy paper. It even happens on Xpressit Blending Card. So I don't think it's the paper, it's more than likely the ink which is crazy since copics are so expensive.
It's all up to personal preference at the end of the day. Copic markers are industry standard and great. And the pro and brush markers are also great. Personally I prefer Copic cause with refills it ends up being cheaper where I am but the pro and brush markers are also great. I have personally used Copic markers on all paper types and I have found them to work great but I definitely will say that on some cheaper paper they do not get as flat of tones but that doesn't matter to me personally. I use Bristol board and they work perfectly with what I use.
Aaah, a fellow promarker Connoisseur. I started off with touch five markers , but the day I caught some promarkers on sale at a hobby lobby three years ago, it was a dream. I didn't know markers could rival my love of colored pencils yet here we are. I full on like their ink more than copic inks and their pricing is far more agreeable. I just WISH that prpmarkers had REFILLS. But I know the company isn't gong for it and it will jack up the prices. But man, I can go on ANY paper and have even clean strokes with no splotches. Nice coating. Easy layering. No streaks. I have mostly bullet nibs but their brush nibs are okay, a tad soft but still nice and affordable. I have 127 and they serve me fine. Just divine. Cept they die on me sometimes. As for the copic, I have copic ciao , exactly 158. The ink is blotchy and spity no matter what paper I stick it on, I haven't bothered to buy exclusive copic paper because they are already charing ridiculous prices for the markers including the reboot refills that are arguably a ripoff. They are fresh and yet they go on kinda slow and dry. I need to layer for more for the copic than I do for a promarker, which is a con for me because it takes longer. While they are slightly easier to blend with and I really like their affects so they aren't a pointless investment, it is still possible to refill them and I really like their brush tips. This the perfect firmness, I must insist I don't like the inks behavior. While I prefer promarkers, I use my copics and promarkwrs together on many pieces, the copics a d often good for shading and base layers. While the copic are good for detailing , gradients, and general blending and further renders. The inks are pretty compatible when combined, I found. And the colors each set has fill in the values/colors I'm missing from the other. Basically I have qualms with copic but they have their perks. Sad part is that I used to really want these as a kid, I'm still happy with them but I have my critisisms. But if people want brush markers that have refill but aren't AS expensive as copics, I suggest blick studio markers in the 96 set. I also suggest art n fly markers as they are pretty nice and they also have refills and it won't eat up your wallet. I think a full set of art n fly markers comes in 72, they have it on their website. Oh, another one i know of are the spectrum markers (noir, illustrator) , they also have refills available. Lastly , the Shinhan touch markers (not touch five ) are refillable. But lats i checked they were so expensive , you might be better off with copics. Ohuhu has nice brush markers in a lot of colors but they aren't refillable as of yet. Thats my thoughts.
I love the results from both sides. The Copic side reminds me of graphic novels 20 odd years ago with all that patchiness and depth of colour, but the promarker side? Love the smooth gradient of colour; there's nothing like it. I agree that the Copics should be able to handle any type of paper regardless and that really spoils it for me.
I love the look of the results, I think especially considering the cost there's not much reason to choose copics over promarkers, so it makes sense to get promarkers. Also, as a suggestion, it would be cool to see how the Arteza everblend markers looks alongside Promarkers, as that's what I have
Pro Marker is better bang for your buck, but I have to say love the grunge texture that the Copics lay down when you are using them! I know they technically aren't supposed to do that but it looks like a piece of art versus just printed on.
I’m an avid Copic user, having lived in Japan for years, where they are priced much more fairly than in Europe (where I live now). I love my Copics, but they are a little fuzzy when it comes to paper. But the pigments are beautiful and I love that they are refillable! I also own three different Ohuhu sets (72, skin tone and pastel), and they tend to have the same paper fuzziness. So maybe it’s more a unique thing with the Promarkers?
Crazy prices, they look great though. Based on this video I like how the promarkers look over the copic. Suppose I'll just stick with my Ohuhu markers. They get the job done and look good without breaking the bank.
I never tried them but I tried Amazon 20€ markers (the cheapest) and they did the job too . I tried promarkers briefly because my brother had a set of 12 and I can tell you that it's nothing alike and the pro and brush markers are so smoooooth and nice to use. I'm slowly building my collection. I advice you try them they are worth their price (if you're in EU)
I have Copics and I have to say I think part of the problem you had with blending the green was the lightest green you used. The G000 is the second lightest green marker they make (the lightest is G0000) and I find that using it to try and blend greens that aren’t as light as it is causes a lot of trouble and causes the colors to separate. It would be interesting to see how it would have come out if you had had a green that was closer in color to the others. That said, I really enjoyed the comparison and hearing your thoughts on the two brands!!
Well, both brands are ridiculously expensive in Colombia due to importing costs, so I go with the one that doesn't make spend more money on "the right paper". I've got a few Promarkers and they're great in cheap or expensive paper, and they're easier to find than Copics as well. This video has a Glorious Purpose 🔥
@@mtjc5336 They're still the same. Just different colour, and as he mentioned as well, ink. They'll still draw the same way. So it wouldn't be much of a change.
@@WinchesterxNL you mean the copics will be the same as the Windsor Newtons? I’m confused lol. Ciaos and Sketches are the same other than capacity of ink and plastic barrel, i get that. But jazza has a huge range of colors where ADC had about 75 here. I thought that was the point. Otherwise I agree
@@mtjc5336 The point wasn't the range in colour. The point was how well one worked in comparison to the other. What's colour range to do with how well they draw?
Considering there are shifts in the promarkers partly masked by the color choices and years of practice that leads to developing techniques that help avoid leaving the unpleasant splitting so obvious, it leaves one to wonder how much would change on the copic side if they were more frequently used to develop the same types of adjustments in use to get the desired results. Granted, that still wouldn't alleviate the price issue, but it's a curiosity thing.
i appreciate this video just as some technical teaching. i was given some copic markers as a gift. ive always used pencil, colored pencil, ball point pens. black felt tip pens.. in the past. i have almost zero experience with markers like this so i feel extremely lost when i try to use them. this helped a lot.
I own both Copic and Promarkers, and I totally vouch for your statement about the latter being much more applicable to all kinds of papers. I find myself using Promarkers more to color on my coloring books with varying types of paper. I do want to point out that your art style, which is very cartoon-y and graphic, is not really in line with the intended use of Copics, which is meant for manga and illustration, where they tend to go for a more softer, painterly look most of the time, hence the slower ink flow. Promarkers on the other hand, are designed precisely for graphic artists who value good color payoff, even application and bright, distinctive colors.
I have family living in kerpen......it was in the middle of the areas that got "hit" by the storm!...luckaly they didnt get "hit"!....hope your friends and family are doing well and all are safe!.....awesome vid, thanks for sharing!
A hurricane also came to my country not long ago. Fortunately no one died or was injured but many houses were affected and big trees were pulled up from the roots. I was out of electricity for 3 days when rounded off. Others spent a week without electricity. And our water was also off and we were still expected to do our exams. Either way. I thank God it wasn't any worse and I pray that y'all can recover from the storm as quickly as possible. My regards go to your wife and family and i hope those who lost loved ones, will be given peace and can recover too
Hey dude. Hope your keeping safe with all the flooding, a friends of mines husband has been missing for more than a day now after their village got hit. Keep safe with these crazy time man, bleib gesund und siche, gruße um Svala. Beileid für den Schaden ihrerFreunde und Familie. Awesome work as always with the drawing!
@@thatmobsta I’ve never had a problem with them, everything comes in the plastic wrap and those are boxed. It normally takes just under 2 weeks to receive your supplies
Thoughts goes from Denmark to all afflicted people in the storm. I can’t imagine getting 2 months worth of rain in under 48 hours. You’re very very talented and it’s a really nice drawing. I like the contrast on the copic side most, but that’s the base colour. Other than that both sides look very pretty. I’ve thought about getting COPIC markers for years, but they’re just so expensive. Especially when you want a good variety. So I’m so pleased to see an extremely good alternative cheaper. I’m definitely going to buy pro markers. It can be a jungle when it comes to makers.
I like the promarker side. You're making me want to get them. I'm glad you're ok after that terrible storm. I hope everyone is well over there. Stay safe and take care!
I have chameleons the game a lot of time and practice using them but the are great once you've got use to them, they are expensive aswel but you only need to pay refill inks and nibs after the first expense
@@Marktherocketdarts once you get used to how they work I do think that they are worth the money, the nibs are easily swapped and the ink you buy as replacement with do six to seven refills, the hard part is learning how you can get these best out of them, I have the full set and hf the toppers and the ranch of colour's are brilliant 👏
alcohol markers do not contain pigments. they are made of dye. so the problem you had with the copics may cause by the paper. i tried promarker/brushmarkers and copics on various types of paper and they have different effects as well as even color saturation.
I will say for me, I found copics best when blending dark to light. Not the way done in video. Also letting each layer time to dry before putting in more color. But I do now want to try the pro marker after seeing this.
First of all I hope you and your loved ones are well out of harms way! All of my time spent in Germany was incredible and I hope that all of the people ( including all of my friends) have found safety and shelter. This truly pained me to watch from so far away. Please let us know if there are any links to help fund the recovery. My deepest sympathies to those who were effected. Du, Du liegst mir am Herzen! Pro-markers! Copic belong to there own niche with great results if you choose to use Copic, and Copic alone, products together. I have used WN pro-markers on all sorts of media... Always a smooth result. Side bar: The inked drawing had so much more time to dry before adding the Copic markers. Granted. I also believe that they perform well over inked drawings because of their super low flow. I tested it with the one Copic I own and if you work it just enough it'll pull the black ink just as any other. Personal opinion from a personal experience. Keep up the excellent work!
I have been saving for so so long and have recently bought all 5 sets of Copic Sketch (and the 120 tin of Polychromo Pencils)! No regrets! I used to always drool over them when I'd see them, it's a dream come true for me! *Edit- I hope you all recover from the storm, and you're awesome for helping the animal shelters. I hope the animals are all ok and that your wife's family and friends can get help and be back on their feet very soon :(
eye catching drawings are the best looking of course and blending and depth is the key to do it now blending is the best in pro marker so i think they are the winner of this one
I found this quite interesting, and kind of amusing. I clicked on this video to find out how well the highly expensive Winsor & Newton do. I do find it interesting that Copic set B, and the Winsor & Newton are reversed in price from where I live. But, if I find a decent priced set of Winsor & Newtons I'll pick them up.
I love the W+N Pro/Brush Markers. I've used them for years and the gradient and control they give are lovely. And the vibrancy absolutely works every time. I never knew about Copic markers until I started watching TH-cam artists - and from what I've seen, the ProMarkers are definitely on a par or better. Love the Loki picture! So expressive! Do you add to the pictures after filming is over (like backgrounds and things)?
I think the shading/blending on the Copic side look a lot more dynamic.... at least from the camera angle we see. Well done on both tho! I love this series!
This is one of the best comparisons I have seen! I have been wanting to change from W&N to Copics, just because they are apparently better. Yes I agree it’s very tough to tell the pictures apart, but the fact that I can work on any paper and the price is so different- it’s W&N for me W&N is worth it for me!!!
I feel like it really boils down to what tool you have the most experience and practice with for example you will most likely have a better result with the pro markers because you’ve been using them for a while like you said. With more experience with the other marker you can achieve similar looks but with different techniques without a doubt. I like the subtleness of the pro markers but also like the punchiness in the copic side it all comes down to preference but both are great!
I agree, pro marker wins by far. They both have great colour and are vibrant, however the separation of the colour and lack of blending makes the Copic just fall flat.
Me with friends: Say it... Say it... ADCArtAttack: *5:30** Mark* Moving on! Me with friends: Moving on! *takes a shot* Yes, I made a drinking game with your catchphrase. Super dangerous but I love your videos and dragged my friends into it.
I have a handful of both pro and sketch markers (mostly from art subscription boxes) but my marker of choice is Ohuhu (I have both the bullet and brush) and to be honest I really don't find a big difference other than price. Your truly paying for the name
ouch, the copics struggled on this one! loved the vibrancy of promarkers, and their texture is just lovely isn't it? I also really liked the less saturated skin tone of the promarkers, the skin tone of the copics looked a bit orange i think. Anyways, great video as always and i'm happy to hear you're ok, stay safe!
I have completely given up on alcohol markers and traditional coloring in general, and transitioned to digital. But I still think that the winsor & newton held its ground against the copic markers.
Loki turned out amazing ADC! (Love Pro Marker..Thanks for introducing them in your videos. They are so affordable and overall great product by Windsor & Newton. In fact I use their paints as well). Here in the U.S., we heard about the storms Germany had experience. Thoughts and prayers to you, your family, your friends and all of Germany. If there is any way us fans can help let’s us know 🙏🏻❤️ 🇩🇪
I'm totally fine where I am... but when everything calms down for the surrounding area and town we will look into what we can do to help. Right now a dam looks like it might break which, will be far worse. So, we are hoping everyone can stay safe. 🙏
Well copic alone has 3 different categories of greytones and in that category about 10-15 shades, so that alone makes 30-45 shades of grey. Also they are refillable, i use mine since ages, never bought new ones, just refilled them. And they have a even better blending effect if u use the special paper copic suggests
Promarker vs Copic....... Which is worth it?
Don't forget if you wanted to grab yourself a set like I had in the video, Links in the description.
- Also, regarding the storm, me and my wife are fine and safe. our area was hit HARD but we are on high ground, so we didn't suffer like our town which had 1m+ deep water running through. Unfortunate this has happened especially that its effected my in laws SO bad. My wife is panicking, but we will do what we can.
Anyways, I hope EVERYONE missing is found safe and it's truly a tragedy so many lost their lives.
I think Pro marker is a better choice
my personal biggest problem with Promarker/brushmarker is their size. Because of it, i cannot use it precisely as i want. The body of marker hide the nib/brush from me and i cannt actualy see what i am drawing. Also they are not so comfortable in my hand (personal experience, too bulky for me). This is why i prefer Copic more. But, those white dots on a paper after using copics bugs me too.
Windsor and Newton is soooo much more worth it I have the set as well
I think you should stress test the Copic markers in a Children's coloring book and see how they handle that paper. We already know how the promarkers handle it.
Hope everything gets better for everyone down there
I Love This Cuz Its More Like Expensive vs. More Expensive
Hahah right. 500 is not cheap.
You are exactly right
More expensive vs Most expensive.
tru 500 is very expensive
It should be $5 vs $50 or $500
“…I think it will serve its beautiful purpose…”
You mean it’s GLORIOUS PURPOSE!!
Dude that’s what I said lolol
I came here to say this, but alas I knew it had already been said.
Lol as soon as he said it, missed opportunity! xD
Facts! I instantly thought the same words, verbatim.
I have been using copic markers for years now, and one the biggest things I will say about them is this: Copics need cardstock, Bristol, or marker paper to function properly. You can use sketch, watercolor, or mixed media paper, but you will notice the pigment separation.
I always notice the color separation on all types of marker/Bristol papers too
Where's Jazza, the Champion of Copic, to defend their honour in their time of need?!
So true
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Up ya go.
I can just imagine him saying “copic markers” with his accent.
He kinda sound like jazza
I prefer the promarker side, it seems less….patchy I suppose. The copic side gives me more of a coloured pencil effect
Holy f... Over 120 dead in Germany? That's a huge storm, glad you are safe. This looks like what Harvey did to my area...
It was absolutely mental and it was just rain
Its not world news? I'm from Belgium and i would have certainly thought everyone knew
It was heavily raining these past days... now it's "just" really windy for the most parts... still... I thought our tree would just fly off today XD
And there are still people missing. :/
Belgium is ok
Loki inside the image shouts : Glorious Purpose ✋🤚
I will go the pro markers, because they are cheaper, blend better, and softer then the Copic markers.
and I don't wont to spend over $5,000 just to get markers that don't work with all paper...
also here is an idea... Ohuhu markers vs Artify markers cheap vs expensive
Copics aren’t 5000 not even close title is just a tad click bait
@@jonathanboyer8723 I think he means th full set of copixs. Or is it not?
@@robloxnoob1462 no it’s still not that much 5 packs of 72 is 300-400 per set which is less than 2000, the price of copics is only double the price of promarkers
I think he over sold the paper thing. I much prefer Promarkers over Copics, but you shouldnt be using them on "any type" of paper as you will bled them dry pretty quickly if you do. Also they look far superior on marker paper than other types, although I hear what he is saying about texture.
Edit to add: also it's still not a fair point to make. They are made to be used with a certain type of paper, which Promarkers are also, even though they are more versatile A fair test would be to use the proper paper they were intended for. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a range rover and testing them on an off road track, its not using them how they should be to get a fair result.
@@cnsmooth did you watch the video? Copic is a huge company who sells their markers for a few thousand for a full complete set yet they still don't workmon most surfaces. They have pretty much no excuse
Hey there I have recommendation: "PAPER ART | Cheap vs Expensive!! Which is WORTH IT..?". I know it won't be interesting as the marker but this will give some what general idea what type of paper works the best with a marker.
We have had a few requests over the series for this.
I just need to find a unique and interesting format to do a test episode :)
@@ADCArtAttack hope you find one, this would be very interesting
@@ADCArtAttack honestly promarkers just give a much more character to the sketch
That speckling will occur on all paper types. I have never tried winsor and newton brush or promarkers personally. It's usually when you reach so many layers, of course thicker paper usually takes more layers than copy paper. It even happens on Xpressit Blending Card. So I don't think it's the paper, it's more than likely the ink which is crazy since copics are so expensive.
it does happen I agree but with a better paper it would have happened a lot less
Anybody else click the LIKE button BEFORE the video even started because you already knew this was gonna be a GREAT watch!?
Guilty bro lol
Only thing I can think of while watching the start of this video was "Damn, I really like that cap"
It's all up to personal preference at the end of the day. Copic markers are industry standard and great. And the pro and brush markers are also great. Personally I prefer Copic cause with refills it ends up being cheaper where I am but the pro and brush markers are also great. I have personally used Copic markers on all paper types and I have found them to work great but I definitely will say that on some cheaper paper they do not get as flat of tones but that doesn't matter to me personally. I use Bristol board and they work perfectly with what I use.
As soon as I saw it I clicked I been waiting for this vid
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Aaah, a fellow promarker Connoisseur. I started off with touch five markers , but the day I caught some promarkers on sale at a hobby lobby three years ago, it was a dream. I didn't know markers could rival my love of colored pencils yet here we are.
I full on like their ink more than copic inks and their pricing is far more agreeable. I just WISH that prpmarkers had REFILLS. But I know the company isn't gong for it and it will jack up the prices. But man, I can go on ANY paper and have even clean strokes with no splotches. Nice coating. Easy layering. No streaks. I have mostly bullet nibs but their brush nibs are okay, a tad soft but still nice and affordable. I have 127 and they serve me fine. Just divine. Cept they die on me sometimes.
As for the copic, I have copic ciao , exactly 158. The ink is blotchy and spity no matter what paper I stick it on, I haven't bothered to buy exclusive copic paper because they are already charing ridiculous prices for the markers including the reboot refills that are arguably a ripoff. They are fresh and yet they go on kinda slow and dry. I need to layer for more for the copic than I do for a promarker, which is a con for me because it takes longer. While they are slightly easier to blend with and I really like their affects so they aren't a pointless investment, it is still possible to refill them and I really like their brush tips. This the perfect firmness, I must insist I don't like the inks behavior.
While I prefer promarkers, I use my copics and promarkwrs together on many pieces, the copics a d often good for shading and base layers. While the copic are good for detailing , gradients, and general blending and further renders. The inks are pretty compatible when combined, I found. And the colors each set has fill in the values/colors I'm missing from the other. Basically I have qualms with copic but they have their perks. Sad part is that I used to really want these as a kid, I'm still happy with them but I have my critisisms.
But if people want brush markers that have refill but aren't AS expensive as copics, I suggest blick studio markers in the 96 set. I also suggest art n fly markers as they are pretty nice and they also have refills and it won't eat up your wallet. I think a full set of art n fly markers comes in 72, they have it on their website. Oh, another one i know of are the spectrum markers (noir, illustrator) , they also have refills available. Lastly , the Shinhan touch markers (not touch five ) are refillable. But lats i checked they were so expensive , you might be better off with copics.
Ohuhu has nice brush markers in a lot of colors but they aren't refillable as of yet. Thats my thoughts.
I love the results from both sides. The Copic side reminds me of graphic novels 20 odd years ago with all that patchiness and depth of colour, but the promarker side? Love the smooth gradient of colour; there's nothing like it. I agree that the Copics should be able to handle any type of paper regardless and that really spoils it for me.
Nice to see you back in the swing of things man 😁
Hey! glad you're safe after the storm, great drawing
In copies There 2 Black 100 & 110 in set A
I was in the middle of that storm as well, glad to see you're ok. It was insane, never have I seen that much water without it being the ocean.
I love the look of the results, I think especially considering the cost there's not much reason to choose copics over promarkers, so it makes sense to get promarkers.
Also, as a suggestion, it would be cool to see how the Arteza everblend markers looks alongside Promarkers, as that's what I have
Didn't we do that episode?? I think i did.. possibly with Dr Doom.
I'd have to check but I'm sure I I that match 🙂
@@ADCArtAttack ah you did, missed that one!
I think the only reason I will choose copics over W&N is because of the abundance and the refils
Pro Marker is better bang for your buck, but I have to say love the grunge texture that the Copics lay down when you are using them! I know they technically aren't supposed to do that but it looks like a piece of art versus just printed on.
Sending prayers and love from neighbouring Denmark! I just read about the storm and severe floods yesterday. It's terrible and tragic! D:
I’m an avid Copic user, having lived in Japan for years, where they are priced much more fairly than in Europe (where I live now). I love my Copics, but they are a little fuzzy when it comes to paper. But the pigments are beautiful and I love that they are refillable!
I also own three different Ohuhu sets (72, skin tone and pastel), and they tend to have the same paper fuzziness. So maybe it’s more a unique thing with the Promarkers?
Please do finecolour markers
They have over 400 colours and are lot cheaper than copic and have good quality refills and nib replace
Never heard of these glad you brought them up, good idea for a vid i hope he sees this.
Colour :(
Brilliant as usual ADC! Every video always leaves me wanting more, but I’ve binged them all!
He he I started watching this while drawing a loki that's meta
Hi ADC! Glad to see you do these two ! Thank you! Can't wait to meet my Bob
Crazy prices, they look great though. Based on this video I like how the promarkers look over the copic. Suppose I'll just stick with my Ohuhu markers. They get the job done and look good without breaking the bank.
I never tried them but I tried Amazon 20€ markers (the cheapest) and they did the job too . I tried promarkers briefly because my brother had a set of 12 and I can tell you that it's nothing alike and the pro and brush markers are so smoooooth and nice to use. I'm slowly building my collection. I advice you try them they are worth their price (if you're in EU)
I have Copics and I have to say I think part of the problem you had with blending the green was the lightest green you used. The G000 is the second lightest green marker they make (the lightest is G0000) and I find that using it to try and blend greens that aren’t as light as it is causes a lot of trouble and causes the colors to separate. It would be interesting to see how it would have come out if you had had a green that was closer in color to the others.
That said, I really enjoyed the comparison and hearing your thoughts on the two brands!!
More like REALLY EXPENSIVE vs. Da Vinci’s personal collection
Well, both brands are ridiculously expensive in Colombia due to importing costs, so I go with the one that doesn't make spend more money on "the right paper". I've got a few Promarkers and they're great in cheap or expensive paper, and they're easier to find than Copics as well.
This video has a Glorious Purpose 🔥
Imagine Jazza gives ADC his Copic collection for a REAL test of Copic vs Promarker
Make it happen ADC
But why? They're the same set, no? Just used.
@@WinchesterxNL because ADC bought one of like 5 or more sets… Jazza has every. Single. Copic.
@@mtjc5336 They're still the same. Just different colour, and as he mentioned as well, ink. They'll still draw the same way. So it wouldn't be much of a change.
@@WinchesterxNL you mean the copics will be the same as the Windsor Newtons? I’m confused lol. Ciaos and Sketches are the same other than capacity of ink and plastic barrel, i get that. But jazza has a huge range of colors where ADC had about 75 here. I thought that was the point. Otherwise I agree
@@mtjc5336 The point wasn't the range in colour. The point was how well one worked in comparison to the other. What's colour range to do with how well they draw?
Considering there are shifts in the promarkers partly masked by the color choices and years of practice that leads to developing techniques that help avoid leaving the unpleasant splitting so obvious, it leaves one to wonder how much would change on the copic side if they were more frequently used to develop the same types of adjustments in use to get the desired results. Granted, that still wouldn't alleviate the price issue, but it's a curiosity thing.
As soon as I saw I clicked you should make cheap vs expensive videos more often
i appreciate this video just as some technical teaching. i was given some copic markers as a gift. ive always used pencil, colored pencil, ball point pens. black felt tip pens.. in the past. i have almost zero experience with markers like this so i feel extremely lost when i try to use them. this helped a lot.
"There are no mistakes just happy accidents"- Bob Ross
"there are no accidents"- Oogway
Promarker all day. It’s such a clean look, and wayyyyy more smooth in the transition and shading. Very well done!!
I own both Copic and Promarkers, and I totally vouch for your statement about the latter being much more applicable to all kinds of papers. I find myself using Promarkers more to color on my coloring books with varying types of paper.
I do want to point out that your art style, which is very cartoon-y and graphic, is not really in line with the intended use of Copics, which is meant for manga and illustration, where they tend to go for a more softer, painterly look most of the time, hence the slower ink flow. Promarkers on the other hand, are designed precisely for graphic artists who value good color payoff, even application and bright, distinctive colors.
I have family living in kerpen......it was in the middle of the areas that got "hit" by the storm!...luckaly they didnt get "hit"!....hope your friends and family are doing well and all are safe!.....awesome vid, thanks for sharing!
Thx for getting me into art.great drawing to day
A hurricane also came to my country not long ago. Fortunately no one died or was injured but many houses were affected and big trees were pulled up from the roots. I was out of electricity for 3 days when rounded off. Others spent a week without electricity. And our water was also off and we were still expected to do our exams. Either way. I thank God it wasn't any worse and I pray that y'all can recover from the storm as quickly as possible. My regards go to your wife and family and i hope those who lost loved ones, will be given peace and can recover too
“$500 is cheep!”
I can buy a PlayStation 5 with that...
Sure, if you can find one in stock anywhere.
Hey dude.
Hope your keeping safe with all the flooding, a friends of mines husband has been missing for more than a day now after their village got hit.
Keep safe with these crazy time man, bleib gesund und siche, gruße um Svala. Beileid für den Schaden ihrerFreunde und Familie.
Awesome work as always with the drawing!
I order my pro markers from Jackson’s art and I live in the US. They are still cheaper and better than the copics.
How’s the shipping to the u.s from Jackson’s? I’ve been wanting to order stuff but I’ve read a lot of really bad reviews
@@thatmobsta I’ve never had a problem with them, everything comes in the plastic wrap and those are boxed. It normally takes just under 2 weeks to receive your supplies
Thoughts goes from Denmark to all afflicted people in the storm. I can’t imagine getting 2 months worth of rain in under 48 hours.
You’re very very talented and it’s a really nice drawing. I like the contrast on the copic side most, but that’s the base colour. Other than that both sides look very pretty.
I’ve thought about getting COPIC markers for years, but they’re just so expensive. Especially when you want a good variety. So I’m so pleased to see an extremely good alternative cheaper. I’m definitely going to buy pro markers.
It can be a jungle when it comes to makers.
Wow! Copic is o undoubtedly the king of color markers. The side of the copic is astonishing
I like the promarker side. You're making me want to get them. I'm glad you're ok after that terrible storm. I hope everyone is well over there. Stay safe and take care!
Have you ever used the chanemeleon markers would love a video on them.
Also I prefer copic marker mainly because I haven't tired anything else 🙃
I have chameleons the game a lot of time and practice using them but the are great once you've got use to them, they are expensive aswel but you only need to pay refill inks and nibs after the first expense
@@donnacarr663 yeah the expensive side is what puts people of I do think they look brilliant though
@@Marktherocketdarts once you get used to how they work I do think that they are worth the money, the nibs are easily swapped and the ink you buy as replacement with do six to seven refills, the hard part is learning how you can get these best out of them, I have the full set and hf the toppers and the ranch of colour's are brilliant 👏
alcohol markers do not contain pigments. they are made of dye. so the problem you had with the copics may cause by the paper. i tried promarker/brushmarkers and copics on various types of paper and they have different effects as well as even color saturation.
I will say for me, I found copics best when blending dark to light. Not the way done in video. Also letting each layer time to dry before putting in more color. But I do now want to try the pro marker after seeing this.
Not art related .... but man, that shirt looks good on you 😎
First of all I hope you and your loved ones are well out of harms way! All of my time spent in Germany was incredible and I hope that all of the people ( including all of my friends) have found safety and shelter. This truly pained me to watch from so far away. Please let us know if there are any links to help fund the recovery. My deepest sympathies to those who were effected.
Du, Du liegst mir am Herzen!
Pro-markers! Copic belong to there own niche with great results if you choose to use Copic, and Copic alone, products together. I have used WN pro-markers on all sorts of media... Always a smooth result.
Side bar: The inked drawing had so much more time to dry before adding the Copic markers. Granted. I also believe that they perform well over inked drawings because of their super low flow. I tested it with the one Copic I own and if you work it just enough it'll pull the black ink just as any other. Personal opinion from a personal experience.
Keep up the excellent work!
I have been saving for so so long and have recently bought all 5 sets of Copic Sketch (and the 120 tin of Polychromo Pencils)! No regrets! I used to always drool over them when I'd see them, it's a dream come true for me! *Edit- I hope you all recover from the storm, and you're awesome for helping the animal shelters. I hope the animals are all ok and that your wife's family and friends can get help and be back on their feet very soon :(
Both are great and have different finishes. Brilliant!
Absolutely... GLORIOUS!
GLORIOUS PURPOSE!
Love your videos man all the way from 🇯🇲
eye catching drawings are the best looking of course and blending and depth is the key to do it now blending is the best in pro marker so i think they are the winner of this one
I found this quite interesting, and kind of amusing. I clicked on this video to find out how well the highly expensive Winsor & Newton do. I do find it interesting that Copic set B, and the Winsor & Newton are reversed in price from where I live. But, if I find a decent priced set of Winsor & Newtons I'll pick them up.
Looking sharp with the black shirt! I really want to start with markers and this video was helpful! Thank you
I love the W+N Pro/Brush Markers. I've used them for years and the gradient and control they give are lovely. And the vibrancy absolutely works every time.
I never knew about Copic markers until I started watching TH-cam artists - and from what I've seen, the ProMarkers are definitely on a par or better.
Love the Loki picture! So expressive! Do you add to the pictures after filming is over (like backgrounds and things)?
The epic showdown
These videos are amazing
(Also glad you’re ok considering the storm)
I do think the Coptic markers have done a better job with this piece
it''s so satisfying to watch till the end
“I bought this collection just for the intro”
Me: give
I think I pick the 5K one,but I think it's because your so great at coloring,so to that's great to hear,also hope y'all have a great day.
I think the shading/blending on the Copic side look a lot more dynamic.... at least from the camera angle we see. Well done on both tho! I love this series!
You should do a picture where you color it with only primary color (you can mix them to make other colors)
This is one of the best comparisons I have seen! I have been wanting to change from W&N to Copics, just because they are apparently better. Yes I agree it’s very tough to tell the pictures apart, but the fact that I can work on any paper and the price is so different- it’s W&N for me W&N is worth it for me!!!
Black NEEDS to be in EVERYTHING!
I hope your family can recover! All the best!
Oh gosh I hope everyone is okay after the peer cut also great video like always 🦆🦆
Yes I have been waiting for this dude
Why do I love your channel so much ? 🙌🏻
the color separation makes it look old school to me. i don't read comics but that's how i interoperate the looks of it
Stay safe over there! That impact of that storm omg
I was more excited that you drew Loki then I was about the markers.
5:14 fully missed an opportunity for Loki to serve his "GLORIOUS PURPOSE"
I love this series please keep this contint up!!
I saw the devastating effects from the floods. Especially around Nurburg because I'm a car guy and Nurburgring is our dream. Looked absolutely wicked.
It's insane on the ground level! Cafes we sat at are up to their windows in water. Some may never recover
I feel like it really boils down to what tool you have the most experience and practice with for example you will most likely have a better result with the pro markers because you’ve been using them for a while like you said. With more experience with the other marker you can achieve similar looks but with different techniques without a doubt. I like the subtleness of the pro markers but also like the punchiness in the copic side it all comes down to preference but both are great!
I liked the promarkers set. So smooth and i like smooth.
I agree, pro marker wins by far. They both have great colour and are vibrant, however the separation of the colour and lack of blending makes the Copic just fall flat.
Amazing how we only see these issues when going through a comparison, I'd never have noticed this otherwise
5:15 I believe you meant to say it's, "glorious purpose!!!"
Me with friends: Say it... Say it...
ADCArtAttack: *5:30** Mark* Moving on!
Me with friends: Moving on! *takes a shot*
Yes, I made a drinking game with your catchphrase. Super dangerous but I love your videos and dragged my friends into it.
The Copic makes it look like the Uniform in made from WAY more reflective material lol
I have a handful of both pro and sketch markers (mostly from art subscription boxes) but my marker of choice is Ohuhu (I have both the bullet and brush) and to be honest I really don't find a big difference other than price. Your truly paying for the name
Like you said with the Copic markers they really only do their best on their specific paper, but to me the W&N look alot cleaner
For the price I would go with pro markers, i dislike the white spotting of the copic but it’s colors looked so good
ouch, the copics struggled on this one! loved the vibrancy of promarkers, and their texture is just lovely isn't it? I also really liked the less saturated skin tone of the promarkers, the skin tone of the copics looked a bit orange i think. Anyways, great video as always and i'm happy to hear you're ok, stay safe!
Loki looking jacked!
I draw this in Live with you , i love you and your work . Thanks so much for the content
I have completely given up on alcohol markers and traditional coloring in general, and transitioned to digital. But I still think that the winsor & newton held its ground against the copic markers.
Loki turned out amazing ADC! (Love Pro Marker..Thanks for introducing them in your videos. They are so affordable and overall great product by Windsor & Newton. In fact I use their paints as well).
Here in the U.S., we heard about the storms Germany had experience. Thoughts and prayers to you, your family, your friends and all of Germany. If there is any way us fans can help let’s us know 🙏🏻❤️ 🇩🇪
I'm totally fine where I am... but when everything calms down for the surrounding area and town we will look into what we can do to help.
Right now a dam looks like it might break which, will be far worse. So, we are hoping everyone can stay safe. 🙏
Glad all is well with you. Yeah just keep us posted if any help is needed. Praying the dam will hold 🙏🏻
3:23 a memes shot
I didnt even know a strom was put there
Glad your're safe
Well copic alone has 3 different categories of greytones and in that category about 10-15 shades, so that alone makes 30-45 shades of grey.
Also they are refillable, i use mine since ages, never bought new ones, just refilled them.
And they have a even better blending effect if u use the special paper copic suggests
Think you mean... GLORIOUS PURPOSE!!!!