I find it so interesting that another race besides us could be looking for other life and probably went planet after planet and just couldn't do anymore ......like hey Zorcon .....this is the last planet were not going to anymore we've gone far enough. You never know right?
@@ceoyoyo That ticks all the boxes, even the aircraft carrier size. It's within the margin of error from atmospheric distortion. But is the dish on the satellite opaque? I also wonder whether Mars was crossing an apparent geosynchronous orbit path at the time. Given his ballpark figures of distance and altitude, it seems to have been somewhere between 11-15 degrees above the horizon (sin-1(alt/dist)), so it was low enough to be a possibility.
This guy is a natural film maker. His film making skills would challenge professionals. I’m not a space geek but I am a film making buff. This is seriously cleverly done. Pleasure to watch.
@@mikewa2 Completely agree. The only thing that could lift him to even higher levels would be some well placed humor. I would be deeply offended if not a single reply to his original post was an "It's your mum" response.. would have been a perfect thing to inject as a little funny joke.
@@thiagomiranda7632 com toda certeza, Thiago! Ainda há muita gente que apoia ciência em nosso país assim como eu e você (apesar de todos os pesares que temos passados com os cortes nas pesquisas). Mas seguimos firmes!
Very interesting and good investigation. There may be someone watching Mars through a telescope at same time from different location that would confirm/disconfirm the balloon theory. Maybe you can somehow find out. Thanks for sharing
Couse the car is small and to far away to us you cant see that in that kind of telescope even the biggest telescope cant see it if you want to see it wait in 2091 os you can see it
Starman is currently 11.19 Light-Minutes from Earth and 4.41 Light-Minutes from Mars, beyond Mars orbit. It's current speed is 45,236mph (72,800kmh). Bugatti fanboys can suck it!! xD It has orbited the Sun 1.56times since launch. It's solar orbit is 557days.
Oh this was just ..... just ..... 😃 ..... omg just sublime. Why is the question. Why isn't this series on television. It is literally hilarious and bloody informative. I love it. I hope it does go viral cause this was brilliant. The household came to a standstill as we fired up the chrome cast. Love it. Thank you so much.
@@Astrobiscuit er ... it's literally so professional one watchers comment was "that was so professionally done I literally forgot I was watching TH-cam". It's completely engaging 👍👍👍
cheers bud, thank you very much. I'm hoping the time and effort put in will allow us to poke our head above the crowd but we'll just have to wait and see if it works. 😉
cheers bud, thank you very much. I'm hoping the time and effort put in will allow us to poke our head above the crowd but we'll just have to wait and see if it works. 😉
cheers bud, thank you very much. I'm hoping the time and effort put in will allow us to poke our head above the crowd but we'll just have to wait and see if it works. 😉
Man this was sooo cool! I sat down with a pen and paper to do the math with you and it was so much fun. All of those guesses (except insect) sounded very plausible! And the solution was something I would never have thought of! I wish you made more videos 😄
I used to hear this piece all the time, now I know what it’s called Further, now I fully understand how John Williams apparently used a piece by that name for the opening of Star Wars with the star destroyer flyover...some striking similarities :)
@@trayolphia5756 Good ear. Also, the Rodgers suite for the ancient but excellent video series "Victory at Sea" copies it with sonar bleeps and Morse code lamp clicks where the trumpets set the march in Holst's piece.
I don't have a telescope or indeed anything other than my eyes to look up into space with, so this channel is completely brilliant in this regard. Completely appreciate the narrative and editing you do to make it enjoyable/accessible for all. Fantastic. Wishing you and all your friends/colleagues/fellow nerds/amateur astronomers many clear skies ahead.
I don’t like being this person but seriously how could it be one of mars’s moons I mean think of how quick it would have to be going it makes no sense whatsoever
It doesn't need to move at all, the earth spinning makes it SEEM like it's going fast but it might not even be moving, or really slow, even then they do go very very fast, not fast enough to cross all of mars if it is touching mars but it's already far away from mars so passing mars is like passing a city with an airplane + the earths spinning so it's like a rocket at full acceleration passing a town
I don't like to be this person, but you are an idiot. The moon going one direction and Earth going the other dilutes the speed, also you are zooming in so the moon appears bigger than mars since that is the first thing the camera would be seeing.
Fantastic video as always Astrobiscuit , the only thing that puzzles me about the balloon hypothesis is that you measured the speed of the object against Mars's movement and you said that the object had to be stationary....? Balloons are not stationary as they float along the wind and the higher the balloon is and in this case very high, the stronger the wind flow..?
It would be interesting to get meteorologic data about wind speed and direction at that time and hight. Maybe the wind was pointing right to or from the observer?
Voy a tener que aprender español Entonces mira el video de Dross. Entonces podría comenzar a entender lo que está pasando. pero sea lo que sea es bueno. = I'm going to have to learn spanish. Then watch Dross's video. Then I might begin to understand what is going on but whatever it is its good! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A latinoamerican youtuber called "DrossRotzank" upload a video about mysteries of the space. Your video appear in the top 2. Here the link of the video: m.th-cam.com/video/6Z8zKAX2a-0/w-d-xo.html Minute 9:34
This was a lot of fun and I'm impressed that you do astrophotography in what appears to be in an urban area in the south of England. I might make a suggestion as to your balloon theory. Ultra high altitude balloons are a lot more sophisticated these days. for example they can be equipped with pressure regulators, ballast, spare helium, altimeters and GPS not to mention cellular telemetry or old school shortwave or even satellite links. It is entirely possible to build a long duration high altitude balloon that's flight time can be measured in weeks or even months.
Wait - what if it was just a smaller balloon? Something just a few cm diameter? Odd, but not impossible. Then it could have been a lot lower. This was very well done, man - the ways you investigated all those possibilities was well thought out.
Migrating birds can fly up to 3 to 4km high. I remember seeing clearly a goose shaped bird fly across the moon when looking through a telescope years ago. And it was very much in focus. Though my uncle didn't believe me at the time, that's why I remember it.
The chances of a balloon being released from somewhere, reaching the height needed to expand the balloon 3 X, drift across the very tiny field of view of the ONE telescope In London that happens to be aimed at Mars at that very moment.....
@@jamie_p0758 To think that would be stupid. but from the calculations made if let's say 3-5 other aliens has intelligence like us or better. the chance of finding out planet and being able to get here is extremely low. they would have had to solve faster then light travel. that could mean that out of these 5 only one remain (if it's even possible to solve faster then light travel). to then find this one planet out of trillions at the distances in space between stars is unlikely. that why a balloon is way more likely. I'm not saying it couldn't be anything else. but aliens I don't think so.
If it's too small to be a plane, it could just be dust. It also looks like there are actually 2 objects, one just stayed near the edge the main one came from and didn't fully transit.
@@JanoyCresvaZero Yeah, maybe it doesn't make sense. The video convinced me that it couldn't be ON the camera (I probably "brave[ly]"made this suggestion at the beginning of the video, when he said to), but I'm not sure if it could be floating in the aur near the camera and look like this. Probably not, at least not without being large, though. Watching it again, I like the balloon theory, especially since he didn't rigorously look at all the possible height-size relationships of balloons and see where the curves for common balloon sizes touch the height-size curve required by his observation (almost linearly related to the height-distance curve). That means his arguments against it being a balloon (weather or otherwise) are not sound if they are as given. Final caveat: The object looked to me more like a blurry, irregular object orderly rotating balistically than an object appearing to wave back and forth randomely due to atmospheric distortion
I saw a long bar shaped shadow across part of the moon when I was much younger. I thought it was actually cut into the lunar surface like a giant trackway, but it gradually moved off over the course of a minute or so. I saw it with my naked eye and it was significant in size, so whatever it was, it must have been absolutely huge.
@@johnwiks2597 I've seen those! Seen bright reflections and even coloured light patches. Also seen explainable stuff like satellites. But there are weird things going on with the moon. A few years back I tried to learn all about these transient lunar phenomena as they are called.
But mars has two moons named Phobos and Deimos, who is it, my answer is Phobos because Phobos is the closest moons to mars, that's my answer, and what's you're answer?
The thing I don't get is why can't all of the country's smartest scientists just work together to work on space technology and think how far we could come we could probably already be at Mars right now
Why don’t you just watch to the end and figure it out plus I’m quite interested in one thing if you do watch to the end don’t spoil it for others it’s not fair on them and just be saying if you’re an adult and you think I’m being really dumb I’m only a 10-year-old so get over it
What puzzles me is that "a 30cm baloon would have to be 8km high..." (~22:54 - because it would have to be 30km away for things to scale), "...but at that height it would take up 3 times as much space." What isnt clear to me, is wether this expansion is already factored in those 8km of required height. It doesnt seem to be so, from what the vid says. As the baloon expands during its rise, the required distance to the telescope would shrink, and with that the baloon´s required height. So this just wouldnt add up... What am i missing?
Helium atoms are so small as to pass through the balloon material over time. This is why Helium filled party balloons are usually deflated enough not to rise after a period of a few hours. It might be possible that a balloon not initially filled to capacity but enough to defy gravity would rise and expand, all the while leaking Helium atoms all over the place. It would still rise but not expand enough to pass it's limit of structural integrity. But of course, all of this is just theory and would require further study.
Few days ago I saw the exact same thing while working on imaging Mars and Jupiter. Dots of various sizes, all wobbling, while imaging BOTH planets. I'm pretty sure it's something in our atmosphere and fairly close, therefore very small. There was no wind on the ground. It might be an insect high up in the air. Maybe a tiny spider riding on a thread? Thing is it's highly unlikely to catch something that is scarce or far away because there's simply a lot more space to deal with. If you caught it and I caught it, it's probably something related to lower atmosphere, probably lower troposphere and quite common.
AAAAAAAHHAHAHA- I really liked your presentation but you are a lively champ from across the pond I mean from me and you're funny and it was freaking hilarious for you to blow up that balloon at the end. Thank you for making me laugh I needed it. Chuce :)
It looks like a big bird flying towards or away so it stayed longer in the lens. you can slightly see flapping wings on the side though barely. maybe a duck of goose.
it could be a third undiscovered moon, kinda like planet nine that was discovered a while back in 2003. edit: thank you for correcting me @Cristopher Brown, i forgot about the second moon.
Don’t forget that as temperature falls, air gets smaller. That way the balloon should actually be able to go a bit further up even though it’s still expanding.
Would the cold not also make the rubber more brittle, hense not able to tolerate as much expansion. The force of colder temperature contracting the rubber, and colder temperature making the rubber more likely to fail. This is going to bug me !
@@realitymatters8720 I don’t think it will affect it as much as you think, as it goes up it will be exposed to more of the sun as well, which will temporary keep the temperature up.
@@magnusrix-mller3353 The ballon's mars passage takes place at night, I dont think we can asume much energy from the sun to keep up the temperature. But the vid does not specify how long after sunset the shot was taken. Btw. Møller.. er du dansker ?
Also, perhaps the balloon wasn't filled all the way. E.g. Lots of balloons to be released for a wedding or something. A business providing such a service would try to reduce costs. E.g. Not filling the balloons all the way. Which would give the Ballon more room to expand.
I absolutely love your bird. Lol! I’m dying. I absolutely love you guys work. I bet you land a tv show. I so gotta drop by if we travel your way. Great video. Cheers.
+Garnett Leary thx mate, much appreciated. 😀As you know it takes a serious ammount of time to make these shows... And im not working at the same place as rik now so getting em out is gonna be harder than ever🤥 still lets see what next year brings... For some unknown reason i want to keep on doing em😃
I did some research in the hipotesis of a bird and found something interesting, the Reed warbler can fly at 3000m and its nocturnal, but its to small for cast that "shadow", so I found the canadian goose (it is big and can fly at 7 - 9km). I dont know if it is possible that some crazy goose passed by, but its just a idea (sorry for my english, I'm not an American or Britsh at all).
Well, apart from hypothesis and it's, that was near perfect English, buddy. Tip: "its" means denotes possession, as in "its wings flap at about one time per second" => the wing belonging to "it", whereas "it's" is the contraction of "it is": "it's smooth as a billiard ball" => "it is smooth as a billiard ball". A similar common mistake: "your" vs "you're": "your" again denotes possession: "your car" is the car that you own, while "you're pretty cool" is the contraction of "you are". And finally: their and there. Their is again denoting possession: "their home was cozy", while "they're" is again, you guessed it, the contraction of they are: they're coming over for lunch. That said, nothing to apologise for, you made perfect sense.
But you didn’t mention an alien species of birds that transmitted a bug onto your sensor while passing in front of a Martian moon and controlling a super secret spy space station. And all of this while some crazy experiment in Area 51 makes a balloon able to go up to 40km and not pop.
@@notkiwibird Its impossible because that moon would have to be humongous and also it would never pass that fast infront of mars, a transit would take at least half an hour or so...
You're a big goofball.... I've watched 2 of yer videos and I like you.....you don't seem like the type for which working on videos is easy. Keep doing it man!
I noticed you tried a standard latex party balloon. Have you considered it might have been a Mylar balloon? They're light and Mylar doesn't stretch in quite the way that latex does. They can also withstand a higher pressure differential. Mylar balloons can be purchased at nearly any party supply shop and some florists here in the US. I can't imagine they'd be that hard to find in London. Just some things to consider.
@@Astrobiscuit Also, helium atoms tends to leak out through the membrane of the balloon to some degree as the balloon rises (unless you coat the inside of the balloon with a lead-reducing spray like HI-FLOAT) , so it might not achieve quite the diameter of your experimental test. However, I still feel that a small child's party balloon (mylar or otherwise) is probably the best possible object for the one you detected transiting Mars. Local wind conditions may have changed the transit time by moving the balloon faster or slower than a truly stationary object would appear to move across Mars as Earth rotates.
"So you might not be hearing from me for a bit cuz I got to work, so uhh.... unless this goes mega viral" That aged well P.S This video was a master piece, certainly my most favourite so far. Keep up the work :D!
At the higher altitudes the air temperature drops considerably, which would increase the helium density within the balloon, which might reduce the volume of gas within the balloon reducing the stress on the balloon wall. The cold may also reduce the plasticity of the balloon material making it more prone to bursting - or more rigid and less prone - depends on what it's made of.
@NINJAXDX It is easy to prove Mars exists because you can just go out and see the planet with your own eyes. Some Flat Earthers believe that space doesn't exist and sky is a dome, which is easily disproven by how celestial objects move and interact, which suggests strongly they are at different distances and that their interactions are due to gravitational forces that work very well.
@NINJAXDX Many flat earthers do not feel constrained by your niceties, and do believe there is no space above the dome. They don't care if you throw a dictionary at them. For many, these ideas (gravity is fake,, space is fake, the moon and the sun are only a few miles wide, etc.,) are all part and parcel and quite contingent on the foundational idea of the flat earth covered over by a dome. If you can find any round earthers who share these views, you could justify your distinction, but I claim it is apparently a rare flat earther who concedes the existence of space and planets as conceived by mainstream science. Most of these ideas are all part of the package. I can't find any round earther who also holds these quaint auxilliary views. Bringing these subjects in to a discussion of flat earthers is entirely justified, until the putative astronomically competent flat earther is presented..
If it is a geostationary object and you have recorded the exact angle and time when you and Mars passed by it, then logically you should be able to spot it again in the same relative location. Assuming no one moved it since and that it has a perfectly stable orbit ;) Just check if the stars go dim at that spot. Can't hurt?
i'm no astroman myself, but i think Mars' passing over the sky differs throughout the year so if the object was geostationary you wouldn't catch it next time coz Mars wouldnt be in that exact location every night in same time. Also, you can compare speeds and times at which the object flew past Mars and the speed and time Mars flew past by that speck of dust (which perfectly represents object in geostationary orbit) and as i understood they don't match. And also, his math checks out - an object in geostationary orbit would have to be a huge station - practically impossible (not even improbable) to stay secret and hidden from public... But, just to note, one can never rule out UFOs (by which i mean aliens!) - i mean, it's possible and anything (any orbit and object size) is possible with them.
@@BobCat981 Yes Mars location differs- but you do not need mars. If he has the coordinates logged from the time it passed he can direct the telescope to the same relative location on the night sky and just check if there is something there. I am not saying it is probable- but never hurts to look. I am not saying aliens.. however it may be the alien mothership ;p
@@rainbowbokehontas5567 It differs no only throughout the year, but also throughout the years as well. Convergences take decades, and millennia, and more to occur.
@@onehitpick9758 Convergence is not necessary, if the object is geostationary he just need to point the telescope to the same area in the sky. Screw where mars is! :)
I couldn't help but think of this part of the movie _2010: The Year We Make Contact_ HAL-9000: Dr. Chandra, I detect strong vocal stress patterns. Is there a problem? Dr. Chandra: No, Hal; the mission is proceeding normally. Can you analyze the image on monitor circuit #2? HAL-9000: Yes. There is a circular object near the equator. It is 22,000 kilometers in diameter. It is comprised of rectangular objects. Dr. Chandra: How many? HAL-9000: 1,355,000, plus or minus 1,000. Dr. Chandra: And what is the proportion of the objects in question? HAL-9000: 1 by 4 by 9. Dr. Chandra: Do you recognize these objects? HAL-9000: Yes. They are identical in size and shape to the object you call the Monolith. 10 minutes to ignition. All systems nominal. Dr. Chandra: Is the number of monoliths constant? HAL-9000: No. They are increasing. Dr. Chandra: At what rate? HAL-9000: Once every 2 minutes.
Thunderf00t: "It's a bird, I can clearly see the wings flapping". Splits into 2 then 3 objects, begins to glow, starts zipping back and forth across the sky then disappears in a bright flash of light. Thunderf00t: Come on, clearly it's a Canadian goose! Take that, Occam's Razor.
Obviously a birthday balloon, celebrating the birth of Crydon the Magnificent of the secret planet Arctus. I was there, quite bash. Gotta go, wormhole closing soon.
what if aliens sent out a probe to study Mars to look for life, even though there is life just one planet down
so close
I find it so interesting that another race besides us could be looking for other life and probably went planet after planet and just couldn't do anymore ......like hey Zorcon .....this is the last planet were not going to anymore we've gone far enough.
You never know right?
nah not aliens not exist
Christopher Ball we don’t know they could be alive we’re not the only livings thing in the universe
The God King I believe that there is life in other planets but there just bacteria
The King what does a little bacteria mean
This has to be some of the highest quality content on the internet!
yeah it's class!
One of the highest on astrophotograph and astronomy for sure.
th-cam.com/video/BLwWR02rImY/w-d-xo.html
Hats off to you for going in hard on this investigation and making it so entertaining!
+Alyn Wallace cheers alyne, glad the weathers gonna be good tonight.😃
Mars moon
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@@jonjonworld2615 One thing that is fundamentally wrong with that observation. Neither Phobos nor Deimos orbit Mars at that speed.
Astrobiscuit: crosses off satellite
NRO: *phew*
They did spend a whole lot of money building the new Thunderbirds base... would be problematic if people knew it was there.
Yup.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(satellite)
@@ceoyoyooh yes 100m antennae so it could've been that
@@ceoyoyo That ticks all the boxes, even the aircraft carrier size. It's within the margin of error from atmospheric distortion. But is the dish on the satellite opaque? I also wonder whether Mars was crossing an apparent geosynchronous orbit path at the time. Given his ballpark figures of distance and altitude, it seems to have been somewhere between 11-15 degrees above the horizon (sin-1(alt/dist)), so it was low enough to be a possibility.
this should be your full time job on the bbc its excellent show
CEASAAAAAAAAAAA
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@Z Fatex Õ_Õ
I would totally watch this!!
@Z Fatex ew no, its a chennel in the uk lol
I'm amazed at the outstanding ability this guy has for telling stories. Holy crap! These videos are outstandingly well done.
post-production is seriously on point
th-cam.com/video/BLwWR02rImY/w-d-xo.html
This guy is a natural film maker. His film making skills would challenge professionals. I’m not a space geek but I am a film making buff. This is seriously cleverly done. Pleasure to watch.
@@mikewa2 Completely agree. The only thing that could lift him to even higher levels would be some well placed humor.
I would be deeply offended if not a single reply to his original post was an "It's your mum" response.. would have been a perfect thing to inject as a little funny joke.
Aliens, roaring with laughter, release another balloon...,
Haha!
LMAO
Damn lol
made me laugh 😂
@@eclipse369. alien government: you weren't supposed to do that
Your videos are like professional documentary! It's amazing the quality! Don't stop doing that! Congrats from Brazil!
Brasileiro tá em todo lugar, que foda ver que ainda tem pessoas que apreciam a astronomia e a ciência no Brasil!
@@thiagomiranda7632 com toda certeza, Thiago! Ainda há muita gente que apoia ciência em nosso país assim como eu e você (apesar de todos os pesares que temos passados com os cortes nas pesquisas). Mas seguimos firmes!
*Meanwhile in microorganism universe* :
"Hey Tom, stop messing with that guy's telescope"
Lol
mmmhmmm
underrated lol
LMFAO
this might actually be true
Is it 'just me?' ...or... does the dark object appear to be 'tumbling' / 'rolling' as it passes past Mars?
That effect is the shadow going over the different geographical land areas on the planet!!
Good eye sight
Yes dj regan it does look like its rolling or tumbling that's why I think it's a asteroid or something
Keegan Toresdahl did you not read the first reply
@@omar5304 r/wooooosh
You put so much effort into these videos, you deserve way more views and way more subscribers!
+Alorulz Mc yep lots and lots of work. hope you liked it.
@@Astrobiscuit I certainly did! And I subscribed too! :)
Shadow of Earth or Venus or our moon on Mars?????
@@Astrobiscuit God bless you sir.This is hard work.
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Very interesting and good investigation. There may be someone watching Mars through a telescope at same time from different location that would confirm/disconfirm the balloon theory. Maybe you can somehow find out. Thanks for sharing
I forgot about the virus for twenty minutes. So, this video was extremely fun.
What virus?
They really know how to set us up!!
@@franksworld9922 Everyone on our planet (Earth, Sun System, Milky Way, Virgo Supercluster) knows about the virus
@@kcsi1 I was going along with your statement that this video made you about forgetting about the virus for twenty minutes.
Well i forgot it for 3 weeks
*It's a booger I flicked into orbit last spring!*
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Wtf
I'm jealous
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Blaire Duarte overreacting lol
I love these sort of tests and experiments to figure out something! :D
6:05 "about the size of the Death Star"
Well, there you have it!
Imagine you thought it was a UFO but it's just an tiny insect crawling around in your telescope
y e s
He tried that tho
a fly can be a ufo as long as you don't know it's a fly
@@scoobone it's big brain time
Well, a fly that you didn't know is an unidentified flying -object- insect right?
Am I the only one the notices that the music is “Mars” written by Gustav Holst from one of his selections called “the planets”
No?
Just me?
Ok.
I noticed. Love his music!
Oh yeah same love it. For some reason just watching it now ?
It is “mars, the bringer of war”
na me too, loved the reference
I noticed. "Mars: Bringer of War" is on my workout playlist on my iPod.
It’s probably just Elon musk’s car that he sent to space
Iit might be his car or a moon or a ufo
Lucas wrong
Couse the car is small and to far away to us you cant see that in that kind of telescope even the biggest telescope cant see it if you want to see it wait in 2091 os you can see it
Starman is currently 11.19 Light-Minutes from Earth and 4.41 Light-Minutes from Mars, beyond Mars orbit. It's current speed is 45,236mph (72,800kmh). Bugatti fanboys can suck it!! xD
It has orbited the Sun 1.56times since launch. It's solar orbit is 557days.
_Have Fun People!!_
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I spend way too much time watching your videos, but I can't stop----better than any space documentary!
these people think UFO means aliens
UFO MEANS UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT ITS NOT ALIENS
Yeah agree if you see something flying you shouldn't call it UFO
Actually. The term made for UFO was for aliens.
@Gavin Loesche Yeah and IF YOU F***ING METION UFO THEY WILL SAY STUFF LIKE ALIEN. IT'S SO ANNOYING
@@thelazyartistfromdiw No just no. And also thats probably a moon
@@axeonee he already discussed that. The moon is too small to be a moon.
Oh this was just ..... just ..... 😃 ..... omg just sublime. Why is the question. Why isn't this series on television. It is literally hilarious and bloody informative. I love it. I hope it does go viral cause this was brilliant. The household came to a standstill as we fired up the chrome cast. Love it. Thank you so much.
+Adam SMITH oh phew... I didnt know if it was any good and you are the first to respond so thx😂
@@Astrobiscuit er ... it's literally so professional one watchers comment was "that was so professionally done I literally forgot I was watching TH-cam". It's completely engaging 👍👍👍
cheers bud, thank you very much. I'm hoping the time and effort put in will allow us to poke our head above the crowd but we'll just have to wait and see if it works. 😉
cheers bud, thank you very much. I'm hoping the time and effort put in will allow us to poke our head above the crowd but we'll just have to wait and see if it works. 😉
cheers bud, thank you very much. I'm hoping the time and effort put in will allow us to poke our head above the crowd but we'll just have to wait and see if it works. 😉
Man this was sooo cool! I sat down with a pen and paper to do the math with you and it was so much fun. All of those guesses (except insect) sounded very plausible! And the solution was something I would never have thought of! I wish you made more videos 😄
Except for aliens
The video is in par with the BBC produced, even better
BBC 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
Definitely, without a doubt, the Death star
Yeah the death Star keep dreaming Boomer
DHUHUNTER1 ok hunter you’re probably really fun at parties
The death star is bigger than that
@@giansigua2730 ...yes it is
@@giansigua2730 Mini Death Star
I like how you used Mars: The Bringer of War for the background music
Thanks
I used to hear this piece all the time, now I know what it’s called
Further, now I fully understand how John Williams apparently used a piece by that name for the opening of Star Wars with the star destroyer flyover...some striking similarities :)
@@trayolphia5756 Good ear. Also, the Rodgers suite for the ancient but excellent video series "Victory at Sea" copies it with sonar bleeps and Morse code lamp clicks where the trumpets set the march in Holst's piece.
Omg thank you for noticing. Gustav holst is amazing
Very interesting, and what a fantastically made video
+Astrophotography Emagazine cheers , i'd like to say it didn't take long....😂
:v
dross
@@Astrobiscuit
I'm a bit late to this party, but, I wanna guess it was the shadow of Mercury pirouetting across the surface of Mars.
@@daveyjones9930 Mercury never passes between us and Mars.
I don't have a telescope or indeed anything other than my eyes to look up into space with, so this channel is completely brilliant in this regard. Completely appreciate the narrative and editing you do to make it enjoyable/accessible for all. Fantastic. Wishing you and all your friends/colleagues/fellow nerds/amateur astronomers many clear skies ahead.
Why don't you build a reflector telescope its very cheap (around 20$)and easy to make
Go get a good pair of binoculars ,not much money. Fun to get out at night and look up.
It's already accessible for all. Reeee.
I don’t like being this person but seriously how could it be one of mars’s moons I mean think of how quick it would have to be going it makes no sense whatsoever
CoDGplays very very quick
or it could be a raging planet
It doesn't need to move at all, the earth spinning makes it SEEM like it's going fast but it might not even be moving, or really slow, even then they do go very very fast, not fast enough to cross all of mars if it is touching mars but it's already far away from mars so passing mars is like passing a city with an airplane + the earths spinning so it's like a rocket at full acceleration passing a town
I don’t think moons go that fast
I don't like to be this person, but you are an idiot. The moon going one direction and Earth going the other dilutes the speed, also you are zooming in so the moon appears bigger than mars since that is the first thing the camera would be seeing.
I think there’s also a little black dot when the big dot passes. I could be wrong. Btw I saw it on the right
i saw it too
?
balck hole or a wihite hole are not that small thay are as big as mars for its starting pont
Balloon
Shark ZillaRex 1. Black holes are smaller than atoms at the start not as big as mars, and 2. He said he saw a black dot not a black hole.
Shark ZillaRex If it was a black hole you would be dead
The dark spot thing:
*ayy lmao*
That was puck. (Mars' moon)
Hey brother can I get a shout out
Says the thing
😂
It’s a tit
I don't think anyone got the reference
Fantastic video as always Astrobiscuit , the only thing that puzzles me about the balloon hypothesis is that you measured the speed of the object against Mars's movement and you said that the object had to be stationary....?
Balloons are not stationary as they float along the wind and the higher the balloon is and in this case very high, the stronger the wind flow..?
It would be interesting to get meteorologic data about wind speed and direction at that time and hight. Maybe the wind was pointing right to or from the observer?
It doesn't have to be stationary, it just isn't moving relative to him.
Voy a tener que aprender español Entonces mira el video de Dross. Entonces podría comenzar a entender lo que está pasando. pero sea lo que sea es bueno. = I'm going to have to learn spanish. Then watch Dross's video. Then I might begin to understand what is going on but whatever it is its good!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
A latinoamerican youtuber called "DrossRotzank" upload a video about mysteries of the space. Your video appear in the top 2.
Here the link of the video: m.th-cam.com/video/6Z8zKAX2a-0/w-d-xo.html
Minute 9:34
Your videos are great! I regret myself for not discovering this channel earlier. Why don't you have a Million subs though? You have great content
El español es muy poderoso en la app youtube
Spanish is the best language
DrossRotzank
is the answer
This was thoroughly enjoyable to watch.
yah
Um Phobos🤔
All his videos are fantastic
This was a lot of fun and I'm impressed that you do astrophotography in what appears to be in an urban area in the south of England. I might make a suggestion as to your balloon theory. Ultra high altitude balloons are a lot more sophisticated these days. for example they can be equipped with pressure regulators, ballast, spare helium, altimeters and GPS not to mention cellular telemetry or old school shortwave or even satellite links. It is entirely possible to build a long duration high altitude balloon that's flight time can be measured in weeks or even months.
Wait - what if it was just a smaller balloon? Something just a few cm diameter? Odd, but not impossible. Then it could have been a lot lower.
This was very well done, man - the ways you investigated all those possibilities was well thought out.
Plot twist: A ant wast inside your telescope
Yeah you are
Theres no ant that small
@@TRTF5 hi saturn
@@wackybadette23 are you sure about that
@@wackybadette23 r/woooosh
Migrating birds can fly up to 3 to 4km high. I remember seeing clearly a goose shaped bird fly across the moon when looking through a telescope years ago. And it was very much in focus. Though my uncle didn't believe me at the time, that's why I remember it.
Just remember, ufo doesn't necessarily mean Aliens
owwww bars
yeah no shit it literally means undentified flying object
UFO means unidentified flying object
UFO means ugly fried octopus
Nor reverse 😁
The chances of a balloon being released from somewhere, reaching the height needed to expand the balloon 3 X, drift across the very tiny field of view of the ONE telescope In London that happens to be aimed at Mars at that very moment.....
More likely than aliens
If you have enough scopes pointed at enough things over enough time, even unlikely coincidences are bound to happen eventually.
@@alexwang982 so you think that we are literally the only thing alive even in the whole of the COSMIC WEB
@@jamie_p0758 To think that would be stupid. but from the calculations made if let's say 3-5 other aliens has intelligence like us or better. the chance of finding out planet and being able to get here is extremely low. they would have had to solve faster then light travel. that could mean that out of these 5 only one remain (if it's even possible to solve faster then light travel). to then find this one planet out of trillions at the distances in space between stars is unlikely.
that why a balloon is way more likely. I'm not saying it couldn't be anything else. but aliens I don't think so.
I mean the chances of anything you could come up with to drift across the very tiny field of view of the telescope is pretty slim.
If it's too small to be a plane, it could just be dust. It also looks like there are actually 2 objects, one just stayed near the edge the main one came from and didn't fully transit.
But how does that explain the atmospheric distortion?
@@JanoyCresvaZero Yeah, maybe it doesn't make sense. The video convinced me that it couldn't be ON the camera (I probably "brave[ly]"made this suggestion at the beginning of the video, when he said to), but I'm not sure if it could be floating in the aur near the camera and look like this. Probably not, at least not without being large, though.
Watching it again, I like the balloon theory, especially since he didn't rigorously look at all the possible height-size relationships of balloons and see where the curves for common balloon sizes touch the height-size curve required by his observation (almost linearly related to the height-distance curve). That means his arguments against it being a balloon (weather or otherwise) are not sound if they are as given.
Final caveat: The object looked to me more like a blurry, irregular object orderly rotating balistically than an object appearing to wave back and forth randomely due to atmospheric distortion
@@Mr.Nichan
I believe it was a weather balloon too. It’s entirely possible it could’ve been under inflated too.
This is the most genius person I have ever seen
Einstein is smarter
Umm
@@imad.xatari ye he can probably build a rocket in 2 seconds
“Ok docter strange” -Sapnap
Lel
Eyyy did you get lost?? /j
DREAAAAAAM
what video he sa in
@@webe3228 ?
Just a note; Quite a few birds can reach above 3km high, including mallards and a few other types of birds that regularly fly over and around England.
Love this channel, Please don't stop making episodes
I saw a long bar shaped shadow across part of the moon when I was much younger. I thought it was actually cut into the lunar surface like a giant trackway, but it gradually moved off over the course of a minute or so. I saw it with my naked eye and it was significant in size, so whatever it was, it must have been absolutely huge.
Not the first to see weird things on the moon. You ever see the lights that show up now and then?
@@johnwiks2597 I've seen those! Seen bright reflections and even coloured light patches. Also seen explainable stuff like satellites. But there are weird things going on with the moon. A few years back I tried to learn all about these transient lunar phenomena as they are called.
Years and years looking at the sky watching stars, this little sneaky planet has been runnin' around..
*Visible Trigger*
Best TH-cam ever please don’t ever stop and please upload more planet content 😭🥰🥰🥰🥰🤩
I'm late for the party, yes. And I'm writing this as I watch, so I'm saying Mars moon.
But mars has two moons named Phobos and Deimos, who is it, my answer is Phobos because Phobos is the closest moons to mars, that's my answer, and what's you're answer?
Phobos BC its shaped like that and Deimos isnt
@@tazurajulianseditor7389 diemos is an diaper shaped moon
Its moons are very small and wouldn't be this big
@@nachos1238 well it isnt anymore bc its decaying by the second
The thing I don't get is why can't all of the country's smartest scientists just work together to work on space technology and think how far we could come we could probably already be at Mars right now
Because who gets the credit, who writes the academic papers, rubbs it in someone else's face? ( Obviously, I'm an American) :)
Fading Lavyithin human nature prevents such
Betrayl
Money
There probably is people on mars
I'm so chill watching this
This is a good knowledge for this pandemic
This is what we need more of!! Honest investigation into the anomalies
This is better than MOST science TV shows and documentaries. Why don't you have millions of subs? :)
TunnelvizionTV agreed.
This is actually very well made. I'm surprised this video doesn't have a lot more views.
I only found your channel a few days ago, unbelievable Geoff👌🏼🙌🏼
Yes I agree! This is the best astronomy show (all of your videos), I have ever seen!
For the record, I haven't watched to the end but I think it's a fly right now. Spoiler alert::
wrong again
Why don’t you just watch to the end and figure it out plus I’m quite interested in one thing if you do watch to the end don’t spoil it for others it’s not fair on them and just be saying if you’re an adult and you think I’m being really dumb I’m only a 10-year-old so get over it
DHUHUNTER1 no one cares that you’re 10
DHUHUNTER1 go to BED Little sHIT
@@DHUHUNTER1 are your parents stupid for letting you here?
r/youngpeopleyoutube time?
You're testing the flexibility of the balloon at ambiant temps, wouldn't it be less flexible at higher heights given the temperature drop ?
What puzzles me is that "a 30cm baloon would have to be 8km high..." (~22:54 - because it would have to be 30km away for things to scale), "...but at that height it would take up 3 times as much space." What isnt clear to me, is wether this expansion is already factored in those 8km of required height. It doesnt seem to be so, from what the vid says. As the baloon expands during its rise, the required distance to the telescope would shrink, and with that the baloon´s required height. So this just wouldnt add up... What am i missing?
Helium atoms are so small as to pass through the balloon material over time. This is why Helium filled party balloons are usually deflated enough not to rise after a period of a few hours.
It might be possible that a balloon not initially filled to capacity but enough to defy gravity would rise and expand, all the while leaking Helium atoms all over the place.
It would still rise but not expand enough to pass it's limit of structural integrity.
But of course, all of this is just theory and would require further study.
weather balloon
Maybe that thing is a space ship, and if it’s not then...
Alien life or some space comet
@@gluehole4036 are u sans?
Excellent presentation. Great fun!
I think it is a tie fighter from star wars
Being chased by Death Star
But that is not real
@@j-series2siphonexr201 okay, then I suppose that next you're gonna tell me that Santa Claus is not real!
Santa clause is not real
@@j-series2siphonexr201 now you gonna try to tell me that the Easter Bunny is not real.
The aliens is using a disguise as an asteroid so we couldn't know they're real...
Spectize smart
Just a theory...
Spectize
A game theory
I filmed a similar object passing in front of Saturn, but it makes a curved motion instead.
It's Kars just floating through space
Space Boi ikr
funny jojoke
Facts
nice jojoke
Lol Jojoke
Few days ago I saw the exact same thing while working on imaging Mars and Jupiter. Dots of various sizes, all wobbling, while imaging BOTH planets. I'm pretty sure it's something in our atmosphere and fairly close, therefore very small. There was no wind on the ground.
It might be an insect high up in the air. Maybe a tiny spider riding on a thread? Thing is it's highly unlikely to catch something that is scarce or far away because there's simply a lot more space to deal with. If you caught it and I caught it, it's probably something related to lower atmosphere, probably lower troposphere and quite common.
it could be bacteria's causing a distortion
It’s probably Phobos or Deimos
3:33 Guess not
333 plus 333
To large
@@boywithadolphin Phobos is smol compared to Mars, so it isn't too large also *too
*small
To large to be a Martian satellite, maybe an asteroid
AAAAAAAHHAHAHA- I really liked your presentation but you are a lively champ from across the pond I mean from me and you're funny and it was freaking hilarious for you to blow up that balloon at the end. Thank you for making me laugh I needed it. Chuce :)
It looks like a big bird flying towards or away so it stayed longer in the lens. you can slightly see flapping wings on the side though barely. maybe a duck of goose.
ducks dont fly 3 kms high
@@RealPyro88 r/whooosh you didnt get the flipping joke idiot
@@snpedcomrade9024 first. R/woooosh is dead. Why not use like "ya missed the joke buddy" ALSO the comment is serious
@@RealPyro88 Ducks don't but many birds do like geese.
Me: bbbut...
Astrobiscuit: STFU there are NO aliens between Mars.. and my Scope!!!!
11:44 let's fly up In the space to see the unknown thing on mars.
Ya
Why am I just finding out about this channel! I hope you post more soon astobiscuit!!!
it could be a third undiscovered moon, kinda like planet nine that was discovered a while back in 2003.
edit: thank you for correcting me @Cristopher Brown, i forgot about the second moon.
Third undiscovered moon*
After all the rears the on Mars I don’t think there’s a 3rd moon
What planet nine? Literally every single mildly spherical thing in the solar system has been called that so you'll need to be more specific.
Why did I think this was interesting....WELL because I just got a new subject I like
I only liked because your profile pic is meowcles with DOPE glasses
Blue dude :D lol thxs
who else thinks he looks like the principal from “Bad Education”
😭😭😭
He IS.
I love your vids. Great content, storytelling, and well shot and edited too!
Don’t forget that as temperature falls, air gets smaller. That way the balloon should actually be able to go a bit further up even though it’s still expanding.
Would the cold not also make the rubber more brittle, hense not able to tolerate as much expansion.
The force of colder temperature contracting the rubber, and colder temperature making the rubber more likely to fail.
This is going to bug me !
@@realitymatters8720 I don’t think it will affect it as much as you think, as it goes up it will be exposed to more of the sun as well, which will temporary keep the temperature up.
@@magnusrix-mller3353 The ballon's mars passage takes place at night, I dont think we can asume much energy from the sun to keep up the temperature. But the vid does not specify how long after sunset the shot was taken.
Btw. Møller.. er du dansker ?
Also, perhaps the balloon wasn't filled all the way. E.g. Lots of balloons to be released for a wedding or something.
A business providing such a service would try to reduce costs. E.g. Not filling the balloons all the way.
Which would give the Ballon more room to expand.
I absolutely love your bird. Lol! I’m dying. I absolutely love you guys work. I bet you land a tv show. I so gotta drop by if we travel your way. Great video. Cheers.
+Garnett Leary thx mate, much appreciated. 😀As you know it takes a serious ammount of time to make these shows... And im not working at the same place as rik now so getting em out is gonna be harder than ever🤥 still lets see what next year brings... For some unknown reason i want to keep on doing em😃
I did some research in the hipotesis of a bird and found something interesting, the Reed warbler can fly at 3000m and its nocturnal, but its to small for cast that "shadow", so I found the canadian goose (it is big and can fly at 7 - 9km). I dont know if it is possible that some crazy goose passed by, but its just a idea (sorry for my english, I'm not an American or Britsh at all).
ooo Maybe 😲
I agree. Think he ruled birds out too quickly. There are also some bats that fly that height, although not UK ones. Great vid though.
Well, apart from hypothesis and it's, that was near perfect English, buddy.
Tip: "its" means denotes possession, as in "its wings flap at about one time per second" => the wing belonging to "it", whereas "it's" is the contraction of "it is": "it's smooth as a billiard ball" => "it is smooth as a billiard ball". A similar common mistake: "your" vs "you're": "your" again denotes possession: "your car" is the car that you own, while "you're pretty cool" is the contraction of "you are". And finally: their and there. Their is again denoting possession: "their home was cozy", while "they're" is again, you guessed it, the contraction of they are: they're coming over for lunch.
That said, nothing to apologise for, you made perfect sense.
Could have been a swallow...carrying a coconut.
@@lepterfirefall European or African?
Phobos and Deimos rn crying
You deserve as many subscribers as Cody’s Lab or Smarter Every Day
But you didn’t mention an alien species of birds that transmitted a bug onto your sensor while passing in front of a Martian moon and controlling a super secret spy space station. And all of this while some crazy experiment in Area 51 makes a balloon able to go up to 40km and not pop.
I'm saddened 30% of commenters are actually guessing moon of mars.
It’s sure looks like one of its moons. My guess is Phobos, the larger or the two. (Haven’t watched the video yet)
@@notkiwibird Its impossible because that moon would have to be humongous and also it would never pass that fast infront of mars, a transit would take at least half an hour or so...
How the heck is the moon orbiting mars so fast?
Shadow of phobos
Moon don't orbit that fast... lol
You're a big goofball.... I've watched 2 of yer videos and I like you.....you don't seem like the type for which working on videos is easy. Keep doing it man!
Telescopes are getting good enough to spot Russel's teapot?
I noticed you tried a standard latex party balloon. Have you considered it might have been a Mylar balloon? They're light and Mylar doesn't stretch in quite the way that latex does. They can also withstand a higher pressure differential.
Mylar balloons can be purchased at nearly any party supply shop and some florists here in the US. I can't imagine they'd be that hard to find in London.
Just some things to consider.
Good thoughts. I think you may have cracked it😃
@@Astrobiscuit Also, helium atoms tends to leak out through the membrane of the balloon to some degree as the balloon rises (unless you coat the inside of the balloon with a lead-reducing spray like HI-FLOAT) , so it might not achieve quite the diameter of your experimental test. However, I still feel that a small child's party balloon (mylar or otherwise) is probably the best possible object for the one you detected transiting Mars. Local wind conditions may have changed the transit time by moving the balloon faster or slower than a truly stationary object would appear to move across Mars as Earth rotates.
"So you might not be hearing from me for a bit cuz I got to work, so uhh.... unless this goes mega viral"
That aged well
P.S This video was a master piece, certainly my most favourite so far. Keep up the work :D!
At the higher altitudes the air temperature drops considerably, which would increase the helium density within the balloon, which might reduce the volume of gas within the balloon reducing the stress on the balloon wall. The cold may also reduce the plasticity of the balloon material making it more prone to bursting - or more rigid and less prone - depends on what it's made of.
Flat earthers: theres no such thing as mars or space 🙄
THE CLOWN WAS AN ACCIDENT😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@NINJAXDX It is easy to prove Mars exists because you can just go out and see the planet with your own eyes.
Some Flat Earthers believe that space doesn't exist and sky is a dome, which is easily disproven by how celestial objects move and interact, which suggests strongly they are at different distances and that their interactions are due to gravitational forces that work very well.
also it can`t go higher then the dome @6km up
@@Panzerram Oh, many of them are too clever to be caught by that trap. You see, the planets are just holograms projected on the dome.
@NINJAXDX Many flat earthers do not feel constrained by your niceties, and do believe there is no space above the dome. They don't care if you throw a dictionary at them. For many, these ideas (gravity is fake,, space is fake, the moon and the sun are only a few miles wide, etc.,) are all part and parcel and quite contingent on the foundational idea of the flat earth covered over by a dome. If you can find any round earthers who share these views, you could justify your distinction, but I claim it is apparently a rare flat earther who concedes the existence of space and planets as conceived by mainstream science. Most of these ideas are all part of the package. I can't find any round earther who also holds these quaint auxilliary views. Bringing these subjects in to a discussion of flat earthers is entirely justified, until the putative astronomically competent flat earther is presented..
If it is a geostationary object and you have recorded the exact angle and time when you and Mars passed by it, then logically you should be able to spot it again in the same relative location. Assuming no one moved it since and that it has a perfectly stable orbit ;) Just check if the stars go dim at that spot. Can't hurt?
Unless it's approximately geostationary, like a balloon cluster.
i'm no astroman myself, but i think Mars' passing over the sky differs throughout the year so if the object was geostationary you wouldn't catch it next time coz Mars wouldnt be in that exact location every night in same time. Also, you can compare speeds and times at which the object flew past Mars and the speed and time Mars flew past by that speck of dust (which perfectly represents object in geostationary orbit) and as i understood they don't match. And also, his math checks out - an object in geostationary orbit would have to be a huge station - practically impossible (not even improbable) to stay secret and hidden from public...
But, just to note, one can never rule out UFOs (by which i mean aliens!) - i mean, it's possible and anything (any orbit and object size) is possible with them.
@@BobCat981 Yes Mars location differs- but you do not need mars. If he has the coordinates logged from the time it passed he can direct the telescope to the same relative location on the night sky and just check if there is something there. I am not saying it is probable- but never hurts to look. I am not saying aliens.. however it may be the alien mothership ;p
@@rainbowbokehontas5567 It differs no only throughout the year, but also throughout the years as well. Convergences take decades, and millennia, and more to occur.
@@onehitpick9758 Convergence is not necessary, if the object is geostationary he just need to point the telescope to the same area in the sky. Screw where mars is! :)
Literally everybody: *aleins*
F*cking Aliens!
Not me
*aliens
Aleins?
@Jonath0ntravl3s why you have to be grammer nazi?
I love this channel ... Only found it about a week back and binging like crazy ..
He is the greatest thing on TH-cam at the moment.
Did someone notice something like a shadow inside the bug 🐛 ??? It's like someone is walking 🚶 ok dancing 🎶 😂
24:48
It looks like a horror movie sound
Looks?
Bruh
I couldn't help but think of this part of the movie _2010: The Year We Make Contact_
HAL-9000: Dr. Chandra, I detect strong vocal stress patterns. Is there a problem?
Dr. Chandra: No, Hal; the mission is proceeding normally. Can you analyze the image on monitor circuit #2?
HAL-9000: Yes. There is a circular object near the equator. It is 22,000 kilometers in diameter. It is comprised of rectangular objects.
Dr. Chandra: How many?
HAL-9000: 1,355,000, plus or minus 1,000.
Dr. Chandra: And what is the proportion of the objects in question?
HAL-9000: 1 by 4 by 9.
Dr. Chandra: Do you recognize these objects?
HAL-9000: Yes. They are identical in size and shape to the object you call the Monolith. 10 minutes to ignition. All systems nominal.
Dr. Chandra: Is the number of monoliths constant?
HAL-9000: No. They are increasing.
Dr. Chandra: At what rate?
HAL-9000: Once every 2 minutes.
Thunderf00t: "It's a bird, I can clearly see the wings flapping". Splits into 2 then 3 objects, begins to glow, starts zipping back and forth across the sky then disappears in a bright flash of light. Thunderf00t: Come on, clearly it's a Canadian goose! Take that, Occam's Razor.
He makes a fair point tho, and yes, it probably is a bird.
Edit: im obviously not reffering to this video btw. Im talking about the pentagon one
Damn geese
Yes I agree geese are known to fly high
do you see all the tiny gooses going in and out of it and the goose at end who comes into view stops and goes out
@@robertjbassett ?
Obviously a birthday balloon, celebrating the birth of Crydon the Magnificent of the secret planet Arctus. I was there, quite bash. Gotta go, wormhole closing soon.
See ya
HA!HA!HA!HA! You crack me up!
Bye
Maybe a creature going through Mar’s and Earth or a tardigrades
XT Dreams tardigrades are microscopic
Oh yeah I forgot
What impresses me the most is the ingenious ways you come up with to test each theory.
Its the ballon becuase you could see a red this past and I think its mars
Bottom left 13:56
Why... is Your profile picture... whatever
His profile picture...