Hi, Mark. I always enjoy your videos. I have this device and I find it extremely accurate. Having said that, I use it outdoors where the radar can track the ball. I is not quite as accurate for hitting into a net. Especially if the net is less than 10 feet away. It is a radar device and needs time to track the ball. I find if the net is out 20 feet or so, it works quite well as the radar has time to track the ball. Outdoors and in a golf dome this device is great. Into a net (as you show in this video) it's good, but not perfect. I hope this helps.😃😃
Bought a SC200 plus+ a couple years back. And I did test it at a golf shop with a full swing Irons and Driver/3W - and it is pretty spot on compared to the expensive simulator as far as distance hit. So I use it before a golf round to "calibrate" (not all golf courses have driving ranges) my 7 iron and 4 Hybrid to make sure my distance is up to snuff. So my set up is Basement, golf net, SC200 - works for me! Might be nice to know apex, spin and angle vs the basic model I have. Biggest downfall - chews up batteries (I purchased 3 sets of rechargeable AA) and rotate.
Amazing how some device that can be purchased now can be so close to something that is some 28x more expensive! I love these gadget reviews and seeing how the tech has started to move on…. Great review Mark! I would personally love some sort of comparison with other devices discussing their differences and value. Also, wondering how you’re feeling about your progress with the swing changes with the arm angles. Looking forward to that update as well!
I should receive mine in a few days, I’m looking forward to the Launch Direction which my old SC200 didn’t have. My direction fluctuates too much. Great review Mark 👏
Mark, been following you since the early days. Off topic, but just curious what your future with course vlogs and matches is. In my opinion, your course vlogs are still the flagship standard to even anything anyone else is putting out today.
Great review. Absolutely agree with your conclusion with where all the low cost (sic) monitors are most valuable. I have both a Swing Caddie 2 (circa 2016) and bought a GC3 a year ago and use them both. I always carry the SC2 in the bag to the range when I want to compare one shot vs the next. The SC2 is very comparable with the GC3 for ball speed and carry distance and is extremely repeatable. I built a small spreadsheet for each club showing the SC2 vs the GC3 results which allows me to get useful information at the range. The rest of the numbers are software calculated so not very useful (I'm sure the SC4 is much better as Mark's review shows).
Great informative review Mark. I have been watching as many reviews on affordable monitors as possible and I am absolutely leaning towards this one. Thanks for sharing.
Great video. Really love your product/club/gear reviews. All the information you need to make an informed decision, plus you give a detailed, honest opinion about whatever it is you're reviewing. Keep it up!
Hi Mark - could you try a few shots with the Titleist RCT ball? It's designed for better spin and ball tracking for Doppler systems. Would be interesting to see if it makes the cheap unit a lot more accurate!
Just wanted to chime in, but from my understanding watching a few of these reviews, the SC4 doesnt really improve much from using the RCT balls, as opposed to the Garmin and some other competitors
@@H484R I own this device and I've owned the Garmin R10. (I got rid of my R10 after getting this.) If you use them both on the range, my experience is that this device is much more accurate and less finicky than the R10. I also have found that it doesn't miss shots like the R10 is prone to do. If you are hitting into a net then both this and the R10 are okay but not perfect. I hope this helps.
I have SC 200+, bought it for about £200. Quite useful since some range where I lived do not have good distance marking, not to mention some even have net on top which kill all those high shot. Looks like this SC4 is still based on the same doppler technology with added features to justify the price tag. The sweet spot for me would be SC300/300i which add apex and launch angle(maybe also give you spin number on the app) and stores the data on the app. Though I still love my 200, because it gives me additional feedback on my range sessions overtime.
It's a glorified swing speed and carry sensor though so just good for working on speed or distance control. I personally still prefer the Flightscope Mevo+ for sim playing and technical work as their pro-package gives you club path, face angles, AoA, etc.. The others are notorious at adding subscription fees which I can't stand. But I guess it depends on what your budget and what you want to do... It's cool that SC4 Supports E6 but without proper metrics to simulate curvature, i'm not sure how realistic that would be.. Similar to the Garmin R10 I guess. But cool to see more choices available.
Mevo+ cannot be compared due to its price £1.5k...it is 3 times more so no point to compare it with SC4. I agree mevo+ is one of the best in mid range price but I have bought SC4 last week I did not feel like to spend 1.5k for a flight monitor...I might but I will try to use this one at the range and see
@@ADCL369It all depends if you want to invest for the long run I guess. looking at carry and swing speed is not going to help you if you have technical swing issues. But I understand it's not cheap. I decided to stop wasting my time on youtube and invest in my swing and It helped tremendously. Good luck
I have an older version of the Swing Caddie and found the numbers were way off, on both ends of the bag (it said my driver carry was 300 when Arccos says my total is 265), but for what it is, it was still somewhat useful and it looks like the data collected and presented has been greatly expanded. If I had the space in my house or garage to set up a simulator with this or something like it, well, let's just say my wife wouldn't see much of me!
Wow, would defo buy this to help my son who is still on his first year of playing. Even going to the driving range and having a net in the garden has helped but this would speed up ability. Nice and defo think this is good.
Great stuff MC! I have the SC3 and found it to be very good for what it was. Also have used the E6 software with my golf tiddle, it is absolutely fantastic. Just fun and has entertained golf and non golf friends over and over again.... Cheers!
Great review, thanks Mark! Looks pretty comparable to my Garmin R10 to be honest. I have problems with getting good spin rates on my R10 as well on my wedges, though distances seem pretty good, all the way round. I think it’s because with wedges the launch angle just gets a bit too steep. I use my launch monitor on the range and on practice rounds for gapping and showing why and how I miss. Especially gapping my 8-iron through Lobwedge on course with the ball I’m gaming has really honed my short game, and got my handicap down from 23 to 12 last year.
Would love to see a video on how to 1) cast the video of the SC400 app (on iPhone) to a TV or Monitor and 2) Do the same with the E6 app on the iPhone.
Thank you for this review! I’d like to see comparisons please including the cost “brackets” various monitors fall into and how you would list them overall in value/price… perhaps of monitors less than $5k US.
I saw a range review. The units most accurate were, the Garmin R10 and Rapsodo MLM they were almost as exact as the expensive “test unit” (one yard difference) with a guy out on the range to verify!
Seems like a similar level of tech to the Garmin R10. Interested if it can pick up or calculate shot shape or side spin. the snippets of E6 showed a side sin of 0.... MC you are a really good golfer but if you were able to achieve zero side spin every time then I think you'd be n tour 🙂
Comparing different types of monitors aimed for us amateur golfers would be great. Seems like this market is getting bigger and some insights would be fantastic!
I think all these devices need range distance comparison. I’m looking for one to play golf in my indoor area in the winter or rainy season for fun and practice! Thanks Mark
Hi, I own this device and I can tell you if you are using it outdoors on the range or in a dome it is as accurate as anything out there. If you are hitting it into a net, you need to have a lot of room for it to track the ball after you hit it, before it hits the net. I find 10 yards or at least 20 feet to get really accurate numbers. If you are too close to your net it's okay, but not nearly as good. I like this device a lot, but it's not going to be perfect for an indoor simulator. I camera device is much better for people with tight space. I hope this helps.
Really enjoyed this video mark. I didn't know this was out on the market, so thanks for that. It would be good to compare similar products around the same price range, that the average joe would look into buying.
I've seen differing reviews regarding the longer clubs vis a vis spin and carry accuracy. Not sure how I feel about spending the money for somehting that wasn't within a yard or two at most. I think I'd rather get fitted for a new driver for slightly more money.
What a great job one of the best reviews I have seen Kudos to you Mark. Will I buy one No I need more Accuracy. How about doing something one more mid priced ones something in the $5000 range
Ive seen other reviews on it and it seems decent. We as consumers need to let these companies know we want spin axis numbers to capture true ball flight. The last thing you want to is play and practice ingraining a ball flight that isnt real. That the short coming with all these monitors that dont measure spin. Id pay more money for the unit if they did.
Would have been nice to see the data comparison between this and quad. I would never buy a launch monitor that didnt show correct numbers personally. Is the Mevo+ accurate as I have seen quite a few people using those and its abit more money of course.
I completely agree with you. I kinda felt through the whole review it was becoming pointless as he "mentioned" the numbers were off. But how much off? Are we talking 3 or 4 yards off, or an entire club off?
HI Mark, I,ve got the swing caddie SC3i, its good. helped a lot to progress, .but now I,m looking at the Rapsodo MLM2 Pro. £649 supposedly very very accurate... .do you think the SC4 is as good as that .. its 100 £ less... ??
The biggest problem with these--for those of us who do not have a home setup--is at the driving range. Range balls are awful and give you very skewed data. They neither spin nor carry like tour-level balls. At a range I use locally, they have Trackman on each station. One of its features is a "Convert" function that tries to adjust the data from range balls to reflect what you would have seen using a tour ball. It seems to be pretty accurate, but you do not get spin rates.
Yea the ranges I’ve been to have trackman or other high techs but use crap balls. It’s ridiculous. Also ranges need to not charge so much for trackman or whatever it should be free with the balls because all I see when people have to pay is the machines un used. But when they are free with the balls the range gets super busy for that reason.
Great and completely honest/independent review. "An entry level Launch Monitor" is a perfect summary. I think you need to compare this against other LM of similar cost - which one is the most accurate, the most fun, the easiest to use (both inside and out). You might need to get hold of a Trackman to allow comparison against launch monitors which would placed where you put the GC Quad. Personally I would want a launch monitor which has more data points, especially club data (path, face to path, face angle as minimum although angle of attack would be nice as well). But I realise those are significantly more expensive. Maybe Mark should do a similar review of the new Skytrack + which seems to have all I would want at a much more reasonable price than GC3 (especially when subscriptions are taken into account)
Great review, I’m really keen for a home launch monitor and watching a few reviews. I’m torn between devices. Any chance you can review a few more so we can get the same persons opinion on all? I’m looking at the new Rapsodo and the garmin… 👀
I was looking to use this indoors. How far does the ball need to travel to get an accurate reading? One of the cheaper "radar" ones I used needed 6 feet of ball travel which is a bit much in my garage. Thanks!
Mark. Could you run this SC 4 vs the Ernest Sports B1 monitor...and see what you think then? They are about the same price range and give the same data...Thanks...
When hitting into a net, Is the launch directon alone pointless without path and clubface measures? As in it could launch straight but hook ferociously?
If you gave me one I'd probably use it a few times before I got bored charging it up and messing around with an iPad etc. I'm a bit of a hobbyist. fishing, golf, photography and they all have these gadgets that promise to make you better etc but I've never really found one that does what it says. The best thing to do is spend the £600 on green fees\membership. Just my opinion.
I've been 'wishing' for one of these for years, I'm only a mid-handicapper but love stats and have been using arccos since my purchase of the F9 driver. I'm sure there isn't a screen saver for this but suspect you coould use a generic one from a larger tablet... however would that impact the sensors?
Can this pick up foam balls by chance? I get the distances and stuff would be off but I want to swing a club in my apartment and if it at least lets me swing some wedges on the range I would be happy.
Looks interesting, I was considering getting this unit because of the range and I believe you get one course included for free to play. However the short yardage discrepancies and left to right dispersion not being accurate might be a deal breaker. Getting false data won’t help your game in real life. Thinking you’re hitting it straight when in actuality it’s going left or right can be an issue or trying to dial in those sub 100 yard shots, which are critical, can cost you strokes. Now there are third party apps that greatly improve the accuracy of the device which are subscription based so that helps but now you are on the hook to pay. That is something I’ve never understood with some of these entry level launch monitors like this one or the Garmin r10 or rapsodo. Clearly the device you have is capable of producing accurate shots so why do you need a third party app you have to pay for on top of the unit to get that accuracy. Why can’t Garmin or voice caddie just make the device do what it’s capable of doing without needing outside help?! Just baffling. Unless they are getting some kind of cut from the monthly subscriptions from awesome golf or e6. That’s really the only thing I can think of 🤷🏻♂️
Fancy selling me this one then fella 😂 Thinking about setting up my garage actually. But how do you project to a screen what your seeing on your phone?
As someone who has owned an SC4 for about 6 months I have to say that until Swing Caddie gets its act together from a firmware standpoint I'd avoid buying one! They release updates with zero explanation or apparent beta testing and about two weeks ago released one that renders the unit all but useless in the practice mode due to a radical increase in swing speed and decrease in ball speed and smash factor. The fact that contacting them is met with a canned brush off response and no action speaks volumes for their concern for their customers and their product. I really want to like my SC4 but at this point I feel disgusted and like I've wasted my money.
Pretty poor form from Swing Caddie to launch a better model with a stand less than a year after the SC4. SC4 Pro spin data will not filter down to SC4.
I bought a voice caddie 2 and it took 3 months to receive it and it was so inaccurate that I call it a $300 paper weight. I don't trust that company as far as I could throw them. No thanks!
Waste time... Waste money... just forget SC4... SC4 is rubbish... Total Carry is incorrect... Total carry-Carry= Run distance is around 15~20m in any Spin and Apex... Launch direction is shown as may the SC4 want to show... even full push or pull, in to our or out to in... it does not show and proper launch direction... Engineeres in Voice caddie is not professioneral engineer about ballistics. They do not know what is a Spin, Apex, Launch Direction and correlation between Spin/apex and Run distance... SC4 is not worthy to buy... Just waste money and time...
Mark, have you ever actual tested the GC Quad distances out on a range to see if its 100% accurate. If not then get the ole trundle wheel out and see if 50yrds is actually 50yrds 😉👍 Great review btw 🫡
Do you want a home sim?
Have you seen the golfzon wave? Looks to be quite advanced for the price. But a tad more expensive than the SC
100%
Yes please! Sim my home!
I have the Garmin r10
No but I would love one 😍
Hi, Mark. I always enjoy your videos. I have this device and I find it extremely accurate. Having said that, I use it outdoors where the radar can track the ball. I is not quite as accurate for hitting into a net. Especially if the net is less than 10 feet away. It is a radar device and needs time to track the ball. I find if the net is out 20 feet or so, it works quite well as the radar has time to track the ball. Outdoors and in a golf dome this device is great. Into a net (as you show in this video) it's good, but not perfect. I hope this helps.😃😃
Bought a SC200 plus+ a couple years back. And I did test it at a golf shop with a full swing Irons and Driver/3W - and it is pretty spot on compared to the expensive simulator as far as distance hit. So I use it before a golf round to "calibrate" (not all golf courses have driving ranges) my 7 iron and 4 Hybrid to make sure my distance is up to snuff. So my set up is Basement, golf net, SC200 - works for me! Might be nice to know apex, spin and angle vs the basic model I have. Biggest downfall - chews up batteries (I purchased 3 sets of rechargeable AA) and rotate.
Amazing how some device that can be purchased now can be so close to something that is some 28x more expensive! I love these gadget reviews and seeing how the tech has started to move on…. Great review Mark! I would personally love some sort of comparison with other devices discussing their differences and value. Also, wondering how you’re feeling about your progress with the swing changes with the arm angles. Looking forward to that update as well!
I should receive mine in a few days, I’m looking forward to the Launch Direction which my old SC200 didn’t have. My direction fluctuates too much. Great review Mark 👏
Mark, been following you since the early days. Off topic, but just curious what your future with course vlogs and matches is. In my opinion, your course vlogs are still the flagship standard to even anything anyone else is putting out today.
Great review. Absolutely agree with your conclusion with where all the low cost (sic) monitors are most valuable. I have both a Swing Caddie 2 (circa 2016) and bought a GC3 a year ago and use them both. I always carry the SC2 in the bag to the range when I want to compare one shot vs the next. The SC2 is very comparable with the GC3 for ball speed and carry distance and is extremely repeatable. I built a small spreadsheet for each club showing the SC2 vs the GC3 results which allows me to get useful information at the range. The rest of the numbers are software calculated so not very useful (I'm sure the SC4 is much better as Mark's review shows).
Great informative review Mark. I have been watching as many reviews on affordable monitors as possible and I am absolutely leaning towards this one. Thanks for sharing.
Since it's in the same price range as the Garmin approach we would love to know about the direct comparison between the two
The garmin r10 paired with the Awesome Golf app blows away the other monitors costing less than $1k
@@willllll7006 thank you! Will look into Awesome golf app now
Great video. Really love your product/club/gear reviews. All the information you need to make an informed decision, plus you give a detailed, honest opinion about whatever it is you're reviewing. Keep it up!
Hi Mark - could you try a few shots with the Titleist RCT ball? It's designed for better spin and ball tracking for Doppler systems. Would be interesting to see if it makes the cheap unit a lot more accurate!
Just wanted to chime in, but from my understanding watching a few of these reviews, the SC4 doesnt really improve much from using the RCT balls, as opposed to the Garmin and some other competitors
@@H484R I own this device and I've owned the Garmin R10. (I got rid of my R10 after getting this.) If you use them both on the range, my experience is that this device is much more accurate and less finicky than the R10. I also have found that it doesn't miss shots like the R10 is prone to do. If you are hitting into a net then both this and the R10 are okay but not perfect. I hope this helps.
I have SC 200+, bought it for about £200. Quite useful since some range where I lived do not have good distance marking, not to mention some even have net on top which kill all those high shot. Looks like this SC4 is still based on the same doppler technology with added features to justify the price tag.
The sweet spot for me would be SC300/300i which add apex and launch angle(maybe also give you spin number on the app) and stores the data on the app.
Though I still love my 200, because it gives me additional feedback on my range sessions overtime.
I sold my VC SC300i to purchase the Garmin r10 to pair with the Awesome Golf app and couldn’t be happier!
It's a glorified swing speed and carry sensor though so just good for working on speed or distance control. I personally still prefer the Flightscope Mevo+ for sim playing and technical work as their pro-package gives you club path, face angles, AoA, etc.. The others are notorious at adding subscription fees which I can't stand. But I guess it depends on what your budget and what you want to do... It's cool that SC4 Supports E6 but without proper metrics to simulate curvature, i'm not sure how realistic that would be.. Similar to the Garmin R10 I guess. But cool to see more choices available.
Mevo+ cannot be compared due to its price £1.5k...it is 3 times more so no point to compare it with SC4. I agree mevo+ is one of the best in mid range price but I have bought SC4 last week I did not feel like to spend 1.5k for a flight monitor...I might but I will try to use this one at the range and see
@@ADCL369It all depends if you want to invest for the long run I guess. looking at carry and swing speed is not going to help you if you have technical swing issues. But I understand it's not cheap. I decided to stop wasting my time on youtube and invest in my swing and It helped tremendously. Good luck
Would love to see a comparison of the SC4 vs the MLM2Pro!
I have an older version of the Swing Caddie and found the numbers were way off, on both ends of the bag (it said my driver carry was 300 when Arccos says my total is 265), but for what it is, it was still somewhat useful and it looks like the data collected and presented has been greatly expanded. If I had the space in my house or garage to set up a simulator with this or something like it, well, let's just say my wife wouldn't see much of me!
Wow, would defo buy this to help my son who is still on his first year of playing. Even going to the driving range and having a net in the garden has helped but this would speed up ability. Nice and defo think this is good.
Great stuff MC! I have the SC3 and found it to be very good for what it was. Also have used the E6 software with my golf tiddle, it is absolutely fantastic. Just fun and has entertained golf and non golf friends over and over again.... Cheers!
Great review, thanks Mark!
Looks pretty comparable to my Garmin R10 to be honest.
I have problems with getting good spin rates on my R10 as well on my wedges, though distances seem pretty good, all the way round. I think it’s because with wedges the launch angle just gets a bit too steep.
I use my launch monitor on the range and on practice rounds for gapping and showing why and how I miss.
Especially gapping my 8-iron through Lobwedge on course with the ball I’m gaming has really honed my short game, and got my handicap down from 23 to 12 last year.
Would love to see a video on how to 1) cast the video of the SC400 app (on iPhone) to a TV or Monitor and 2) Do the same with the E6 app on the iPhone.
Thank you for the honest assessment, Mark! Still a bit pricey for a weekend duffer who wants to improve.😅
Thank you for this review! I’d like to see comparisons please including the cost “brackets” various monitors fall into and how you would list them overall in value/price… perhaps of monitors less than $5k US.
Garmin R10 sc4 and mlm2 pro all in similar price range , which would you recommend for garden use into a net ?
I saw a range review. The units most accurate were, the Garmin R10 and Rapsodo MLM they were almost as exact as the expensive “test unit” (one yard difference) with a guy out on the range to verify!
Great review video! 🔥
Seems like a similar level of tech to the Garmin R10. Interested if it can pick up or calculate shot shape or side spin. the snippets of E6 showed a side sin of 0.... MC you are a really good golfer but if you were able to achieve zero side spin every time then I think you'd be n tour 🙂
Comparing different types of monitors aimed for us amateur golfers would be great. Seems like this market is getting bigger and some insights would be fantastic!
I live 10mins from a trackman range so I don’t need one but that’s a solid bit of kit
I think all these devices need range distance comparison. I’m looking for one to play golf in my indoor area in the winter or rainy season for fun and practice! Thanks Mark
Hi, I own this device and I can tell you if you are using it outdoors on the range or in a dome it is as accurate as anything out there. If you are hitting it into a net, you need to have a lot of room for it to track the ball after you hit it, before it hits the net. I find 10 yards or at least 20 feet to get really accurate numbers. If you are too close to your net it's okay, but not nearly as good. I like this device a lot, but it's not going to be perfect for an indoor simulator. I camera device is much better for people with tight space. I hope this helps.
Really enjoyed this video mark. I didn't know this was out on the market, so thanks for that. It would be good to compare similar products around the same price range, that the average joe would look into buying.
I've seen differing reviews regarding the longer clubs vis a vis spin and carry accuracy. Not sure how I feel about spending the money for somehting that wasn't within a yard or two at most. I think I'd rather get fitted for a new driver for slightly more money.
What a great job one of the best reviews I have seen Kudos to you Mark. Will I buy one No I need more Accuracy. How about doing something one more mid priced ones something in the $5000 range
Ive seen other reviews on it and it seems decent. We as consumers need to let these companies know we want spin axis numbers to capture true ball flight. The last thing you want to is play and practice ingraining a ball flight that isnt real. That the short coming with all these monitors that dont measure spin. Id pay more money for the unit if they did.
Would have been nice to see the data comparison between this and quad. I would never buy a launch monitor that didnt show correct numbers personally. Is the Mevo+ accurate as I have seen quite a few people using those and its abit more money of course.
I completely agree with you. I kinda felt through the whole review it was becoming pointless as he "mentioned" the numbers were off. But how much off? Are we talking 3 or 4 yards off, or an entire club off?
Great review Mark, enjoyed warching this as I am interested in a not too expensive launch monitor 👏
HI Mark, I,ve got the swing caddie SC3i, its good. helped a lot to progress, .but now I,m looking at the Rapsodo MLM2 Pro. £649 supposedly very very accurate... .do you think the SC4 is as good as that .. its 100 £ less... ??
The biggest problem with these--for those of us who do not have a home setup--is at the driving range. Range balls are awful and give you very skewed data. They neither spin nor carry like tour-level balls. At a range I use locally, they have Trackman on each station. One of its features is a "Convert" function that tries to adjust the data from range balls to reflect what you would have seen using a tour ball. It seems to be pretty accurate, but you do not get spin rates.
Yea the ranges I’ve been to have trackman or other high techs but use crap balls. It’s ridiculous. Also ranges need to not charge so much for trackman or whatever it should be free with the balls because all I see when people have to pay is the machines un used. But when they are free with the balls the range gets super busy for that reason.
Thanks
No problem
Great and completely honest/independent review. "An entry level Launch Monitor" is a perfect summary.
I think you need to compare this against other LM of similar cost - which one is the most accurate, the most fun, the easiest to use (both inside and out). You might need to get hold of a Trackman to allow comparison against launch monitors which would placed where you put the GC Quad.
Personally I would want a launch monitor which has more data points, especially club data (path, face to path, face angle as minimum although angle of attack would be nice as well). But I realise those are significantly more expensive. Maybe Mark should do a similar review of the new Skytrack + which seems to have all I would want at a much more reasonable price than GC3 (especially when subscriptions are taken into account)
Interesting this doesn’t do path at all. The old optishot used to show. In its own way club path and face.
Hi Mark which is a better buy - this or Hackmotion ?
Can you use the foam practice balls with this? And if so, how are the readings?
Great info. Thanks
Thanks, Mark
Mark would you say this would be better then the Garmin R10 launch monitor?
Great review, I’m really keen for a home launch monitor and watching a few reviews. I’m torn between devices. Any chance you can review a few more so we can get the same persons opinion on all? I’m looking at the new Rapsodo and the garmin… 👀
I was looking to use this indoors. How far does the ball need to travel to get an accurate reading? One of the cheaper "radar" ones I used needed 6 feet of ball travel which is a bit much in my garage. Thanks!
Mark. Could you run this SC 4 vs the Ernest Sports B1 monitor...and see what you think then? They are about the same price range and give the same data...Thanks...
When hitting into a net, Is the launch directon alone pointless without path and clubface measures? As in it could launch straight but hook ferociously?
Did you say it shows rather I hit my driver left or right thanks
I hoping to get an entry level simulator later in the year. E6 is expensive yearly subscription but would you comoare the SC4 to the Garmin R10?
I’m looking for something to use in the winter in a closed tight space that I can use with my ipad5. Can you recommend something? Thanks
If you gave me one I'd probably use it a few times before I got bored charging it up and messing around with an iPad etc. I'm a bit of a hobbyist. fishing, golf, photography and they all have these gadgets that promise to make you better etc but I've never really found one that does what it says. The best thing to do is spend the £600 on green fees\membership. Just my opinion.
Mark anychance you could do a video on the Cleveland Frontline Elite putters.
Would you choose this over the Garmin R10?
Could it be bag or trolley mounted for a round, aligned for each shot and record data?, or does it need to positioned on the ground for each shot?
I've been 'wishing' for one of these for years, I'm only a mid-handicapper but love stats and have been using arccos since my purchase of the F9 driver. I'm sure there isn't a screen saver for this but suspect you coould use a generic one from a larger tablet... however would that impact the sensors?
Can this pick up foam balls by chance? I get the distances and stuff would be off but I want to swing a club in my apartment and if it at least lets me swing some wedges on the range I would be happy.
Looks like something that'd be good for a "Back yard Driving range".
Where does the big screen come from? Is there a projector? Don’t understand
It amazes me that the UK price is much higher than the US. $549 US would be £432 UK. I know we are a smaller market but we always get screwed on price
The delay between hitting and see the ball go is too many secs or has that been fixed?
Do you think the 50 yard shots would have been more accurate outdoors?
I know a long shot for a £500 unit but does it have a normalise option if using on a range with range balls ?
How would you compare this to Optishot 2 for a home sim?
Looks interesting, I was considering getting this unit because of the range and I believe you get one course included for free to play. However the short yardage discrepancies and left to right dispersion not being accurate might be a deal breaker. Getting false data won’t help your game in real life. Thinking you’re hitting it straight when in actuality it’s going left or right can be an issue or trying to dial in those sub 100 yard shots, which are critical, can cost you strokes.
Now there are third party apps that greatly improve the accuracy of the device which are subscription based so that helps but now you are on the hook to pay.
That is something I’ve never understood with some of these entry level launch monitors like this one or the Garmin r10 or rapsodo. Clearly the device you have is capable of producing accurate shots so why do you need a third party app you have to pay for on top of the unit to get that accuracy. Why can’t Garmin or voice caddie just make the device do what it’s capable of doing without needing outside help?! Just baffling. Unless they are getting some kind of cut from the monthly subscriptions from awesome golf or e6. That’s really the only thing I can think of 🤷🏻♂️
100% they are getting a cut. so deceptive. Just make the procong transparent and let the consumers buy what they want up front
need someting like this to work on games like 2k23 pga
You should review the rapsodo mlm
Is this better than the garmin r10 as I’m looking at getting setup at home saves going the range.
great video
i have a question if the sc4 has biometric can that affect the distances inside if your in ac?
If you use foam balls will it still give you club data?
Which did you rate more ? This or Garmin approach ?
This vs r10 would the be the right question
Fancy selling me this one then fella 😂 Thinking about setting up my garage actually. But how do you project to a screen what your seeing on your phone?
can it do dynamic loft?
Would love to see your thoughts on SkyTrak +
I presume you meant barometric not biometric. I don't want it sizing me up 😅
Haha yes
I liked golf better when I thought I knew stuff… ignorance was bliss. Now I’m a diva and I’m proud hahah
anyone know if the sc4 can be connected to a projector?
Interested
Hi Mark, when are you going on another muppet tour? Missing the course vlogs
4:00 -Biometric- -> Barometric
Haha yes 👍
As someone who has owned an SC4 for about 6 months I have to say that until Swing Caddie gets its act together from a firmware standpoint I'd avoid buying one! They release updates with zero explanation or apparent beta testing and about two weeks ago released one that renders the unit all but useless in the practice mode due to a radical increase in swing speed and decrease in ball speed and smash factor. The fact that contacting them is met with a canned brush off response and no action speaks volumes for their concern for their customers and their product. I really want to like my SC4 but at this point I feel disgusted and like I've wasted my money.
Just says GC quad have been ripping people off for years. It's 30x more expensive but only a bit better..
Pretty poor form from Swing Caddie to launch a better model with a stand less than a year after the SC4. SC4 Pro spin data will not filter down to SC4.
I bought a voice caddie 2 and it took 3 months to receive it and it was so inaccurate that I call it a $300 paper weight. I don't trust that company as far as I could throw them. No thanks!
As I say - if you meassure something you don´t know if right or wrong - then why use time and money on this.
Be great...too expensive for me
neat looking gadget. not sure about that shirt tho mark 🤢
I liked the little penguin
Waste time... Waste money... just forget SC4... SC4 is rubbish...
Total Carry is incorrect... Total carry-Carry= Run distance is around 15~20m in any Spin and Apex...
Launch direction is shown as may the SC4 want to show... even full push or pull, in to our or out to in... it does not show and proper launch direction...
Engineeres in Voice caddie is not professioneral engineer about ballistics.
They do not know what is a Spin, Apex, Launch Direction and correlation between Spin/apex and Run distance...
SC4 is not worthy to buy... Just waste money and time...
Thanks for your input - useless as it was.
Mark, have you ever actual tested the GC Quad distances out on a range to see if its 100% accurate. If not then get the ole trundle wheel out and see if 50yrds is actually 50yrds 😉👍 Great review btw 🫡