Flicks And The City in season one as joe is entering a party there is a group of people in the background that mentions a book that was written while the author was on acid
The Nirvana T-Shirt that Beck uses is Joe's, he said to her, while on the cage in the last episode that she likes to wear this t-shirt to sleep, so maybe it's his mother. Also, Paco and his mother moved to California in season 1.
When Candace tried to break into Joe's house and Delilah stopped her to ask why she was there, Candace described the earrings that Beck wore most of Season 1.
When Love leaves the storage after seeing Delilah's corpse, she throws up outside. That detail was not indicative of Love feeling disgusted, but of her being pregnant. After a few scenes, it is obvious that Love handles blood and corpses like a psyco.
It could be that she is pregnant, but I took it that she wanted Candace to see her vulnerable and freaking out so she went to make herself throw up in the trash can and grabbed a broken bottle from there to kill her with as well!
Andrea Hischak well hes obsessed with protecting a vulnerable woman ever since he shot his dad as a child. hes in love with the idea of innocent woman (such as his mother) who needs protection, so i doubt he actually loves love. she isnt what he wants after exposing herself
Also, in addition to what y’all are saying love is in love with the darkness in Joe which he hates himself.. hence him always trying to find someone innocent who can almost “force” him to be good. Because he needs the help to be good. See joe wants to be the man his mom says he is. He wants to be a good guy who does bad things. It’s all got to do with his mother, which is why they focused on her so much this season. Joe’s says he’s mother was a “saint”, so he falls in love with women he has convinced himself (emphasis on convinced) are “saints”. Because I also don’t think his mom was a saint. Wasn’t she a prostitute or something? When Beck finds out what joe does, she isn’t grateful like his mother was.. she doesn’t tell him he is still a good man who did what he had to do..she instead says he is disgusting. Joe goes back and forth about whether he is bad or good in his head bc not only is he trying to convince himself the ladies he obsesses with are saints, he is also trying to convince himself he is the man his mom said he was. We see him react the way he did with beck again this season with Hendy, who tells him they are the same and psycho analyzes joe to be a man who does crappy things but tries to compensate for that with being a “hero”. Essentially, joe wants a woman to be like his mom, and see what his mom saw in him.
@@bruty16 to be fair, knifes are kinda essential tools for a kitchen job... Now if she had used her claws instead of knife to cut the meat, now that would be funny -.-
@@viveksuryavanshi6165 also I didn't understood how she followed Joe during the lsd trip... She was with her mother and she was drunk as fuck... And also what her mother meant when the next morning Joe went to meet forty and she said she knows his secrets too... Like forty didn't had any clue about delilah's murder.. Then what secret she was talking about?? And what forty meant when he said before dying that he had always known about how love tiptoed around... Like did he meant he knew how love killed the girl he loved and blamed it on him.. Basically ruined him. He could've never known that because he himself confessed to Joe about that in lsd trip episode. Ughh... So many unanswered questions... I didn't understood so many things... I don't get if these were writing mistakes or pre planed.
@@sg_1541 Love was obsessed with Joe from the Get-Go.. She followed him during the LSD Night. Also, Joe was beaten in his own game, he always saw what Love showed him !
SG 008 the secret forty’s mother was talking about was joe “fucking” Delilah during the LSD trip, because that’s what Forty thought happened, and he probably told her. The mom likes joe and therefor - “your secret is safe with me” Well at least I think, idk
When I realized how similar his relationship with Ellie was to the one he had with Paco I was shocked. They are both young kids who lacked stable parental figures as he did as he got through to them with books.
I feel like he's just portraying the fact that his childhood was fucked up aswell hence books were the only things that helpd him get through with it, so he's doing the same thing to help these other kids I guess.
I think its the writers illustrating the fact that Joe can only see himself as a good person if he's "saving" those kids. It shows that he's selfish because its not actually for them but proving that he's good (this idea really hit home for me on ep 3 s2 and i realized i only liked him in s1 because of his relationship with paco). But he's ultimately ruining the kids lives (paco knowing joe kills beck, ellie knowing he had something to do with delilahs death etc.) its honestly sad really thinking about his relationship with the kids and how he influences them
i think he subcontiously ruins their lives so he can swoop in and act like he saved them. since he never had a real example of a father figure he doesnt know how to act like one hence why he pretends.
Also the fact that Candace told Joe she'd reveal to him who he really is and give him a mirror image of his crimes. Love ends up being his scary reflection
How about that forty calls joe “old sport” then gets shot in the back like Gatsby. Oh and that he also pretends to be someone he’s not like the whole season.
I also noticed that Love didn't react at all when Ellie came into Joe's apartment and asked him if he's done hooking up with Delilah (in front of Love). A hint showing she had already taken care of that problem.
Thats brilliant !!! i was wondering till now why she haven't really reacted. I remember the look she had when they both knew Delilah is dead and he was hugging Ellie, while thinking, all guilty: "I know what you think. That I am a good man." And her face full of empathy.. Oh my god!!!!
When she came in and Will had a headache from the LSD she said 'and I thought I had a rough night' right before Ellie came in to ask for her sister She's psycho.
I just find it funny how he finds someone as crazy as him who’s pregnant with his baby and still is about to get caught up with another women...I’m weak
Saaaritaaa xx I think it shows that Joe isn’t looking for acceptance or even a REAL relationship. He wants a manufactured perfect fantasy of his own creation. His obsession with love isn’t a healthy one obviously
Joe is only interested in “pure” women (he’s constantly referring to how “good” Love is throughout the season). As soon as she revealed her true colours, he lost interest. And woosh, onto the next.
Frl tho. I’m lowkey upset about that because love is crazy just like him and she accepts him and she’s thinking that he loves her back but he’s with her bc of the baby if not he would’ve slit her throat 🤦🏾♂️. (I like love)
Remember Candace telling Joe to not even think about hurting her because she was texting someone every day to let them know she was okay? Who was she texting and will they show up in Season 3??
Kinda funny but The show could be called “You” because when someone asks what you’re watching you’d say “you” and sound like a stalker...just like the show.
@@benjidalton3643 I don't know it's weird, I really want joe to get caught but I also don't? does that even make sense? i feel like it's just the show doing a great job making this character so perfect, he's so sick yet.. so normal? I don't know how they do it
Alexander Garcia honestly I’m the same like tbh can’t say I liked Forty all that much till the episode he died in lol that’s when he redeemed himself for me. But so slack to kill Delilah and Candice, the ONLY characters I liked and then to just fuck off Ellie. I feel you, this season and the characters in it were just a mess!
sun he’s so sick but definitely not normal! He may superficially appear normal to others but that’s not hard to do, especially when you’re like a serial killer like he is lol.
when I first watched the scene where Love tried to scare Joe with wolf toy, I thought she was weird because she actually went straight for the throat even with the toy :Dd
Lesson from season 2:" A woman will accept a man for who they are but if a woman reciprocate the same energy , man can't handle it." Saw this in some comment section. Credit to original commenter.
@@zorrothethief6065 yes but what they mean is joe found his match. Someone like him. He wasn't satisfied. The only reason he didn't kill love is because she's preggo. But he doesn't love her anymore. Even though he's a killer too, in his mind he didnt do anything wrong. People are saying that LOVE still loves Joe no matter what. JOE can't handle the fact that she's a murder.
Sadness exactly. Joe finally meets his literal soulmate...someone who loves him the way he wants to love and be loved, and what does he do? He immediately casts her as a villain. It goes to show you that Joe is never actually going to have the loving relationship he so desires. No relationship will ever live up to his fantasy.
I think that's a good observation of the general hypocrisy of humans. The whole, albeit obviously much less lethal, "I want someone to accept me for exactly who I am, but I also want someone who meets this checklist of desires" concept.
i was looking for this comment, didn't see it, wrote my own comment talking about this reference, then found your comment lol. im really surprised that wasn't in this video, i thought it was quite obvious and also extremely fitting
both Macbeth and Lady Macbeth were ambitious for the throne similarly to how Love and Joe are overly and psychopathically ambitious for love. Perhaps in the end they both will be wracked with guilt which results in death..
I love how this series uses Joe's character development and thought processes in order to manipulate audiences from Joe's perspective. It's like, the audience is fully aware that joe is a psychopathic serial killer, but somehow the writers make it so he can be sympathized with and still have audiences "rooting" for him in a way. It's like we're being put in the victim's shoes, every time he kills somebody the audiences adjust after an episode or two to like the character again. very clever
Not me haha I was still hoping he would get turned into the police for his crimes. But not actually die just so everyone who thinks he's innocent can see he's really a crazy murderer.
I was never disgusted by his murders. It's not like I was angry and only after authors made me empathize with him again, I liked him for the whole time. Speak for yourself.
if you read the book, it’s completely different. joe is completely different. in the show, there’s a certain humanity left in joe and we can reason for why he’s doing the things he does. there’s also the good things, like helping paco, that seem to even out the bad things in the show. however, in the book, paco doesn’t exist. he doesn’t hesitate killing benji. he doesn’t mind dismembering his corpse at all. he’s scary, and the reasons that he commits the murder seem more selfish than helpful. you also get to see beck’s death in the book and how much he battles between it being her fault, then he feels guilt. he eventually strangles her, but moves on almost hours after burying her. it’s very cool, i recommend reading it.
When Milo called Love "babe" she was like, "if you call me babe again I'll slit your throat" or sum like that and he looked genuinely worried for a second. I thought it was weird how he was scared at the time, but now it makes sense. Edit: thanks for all the likes! :)
her hand also flew up straight to his throat during their first “real” sex scene, and in the first episode she bit his neck in his fantasy....don’t know it those were hints, are pretty normal things to do, in fact, buuuuut......
In the final scene where Forty was shot by the cop... Here is my theory - The gun that Forty held against Joe was never loaded. It was part of the scheme that Forty had with Love, to test Joe. Remember Love asked Forty to "walk me through the plan" when Joe was waiting outside? Unfortunately, the cop came in and killed Forty "accidentally". Love cried hysterically and if this theory held true, the cop will suffer to death in next season.
I feel like Love knew the cop was following Joe so the plan she had with Forty was to get Joe to confess to the murders but since Joe actually never confessed Forty was going to try to force him to confess but the cop that was following saw this going down and shot Forty
this is a good theory! i was also saying to myself “watch the gun not even be loaded” before forty was about to shoot joe bc he seemed to be bluffing when doing it
The actor who plays Joe is Penn Badgley. His mother named him Penn after the tennis ball brand because she used one to squeeze while giving birth to him!
When Love told Milo that she'll cook him in the oven if he'll call her babe, is a reference to Karen Minty calling Joe Goldberg 'Babe' in season 1 and he hated it.
Whenever Candace would say something on the lines of “murder has a way of following you”, “murder finds murder”, “murder follows murder” to Joe it was really foreshadowing Love’s past and present.
In the scene where love is cutting the meat it’s an homage to the short story by Roald Dahl called Lamb to the slaughter. It’s about a wife that kills her husband with frozen lamb chops and serves it to the detectives. I thought that was very clever. Lambs also symbolize innocence and she’s chopping up lamb.
Yes! I think Love poisened him. When Joe was in the box and hesitates to eat the muffin, Love got mad because she thought Joe thought there was poison in it.. weird explanation, but do you get it?
Ellen Biesmans I wondered about that moment as well. Not only was it a quick response to his hesitation but she was so immediately angry about it too. Idk if she’s the one who made him sick initially or not, but the whole “doctors couldn’t find anything” made me think she poisoned that poor guy w/foxglove or something. It was odd that she didn’t speak ASL to her husband that much either, and he seemed completely deaf - not hearing impaired, as though he could speak & chose not to. That struck me as weird & kind of made me not like her, until I realized she was actually a murderer & therefore cool, lol. Disclaimer: I’m a fan of the baddies; I almost always root for the villains, lol. 😬
Harangue Meringue right! Regarding the pastries in the locker: checkovs pastries. and that specific pastry she references twice as being time consuming - perhaps it was the pastry that served her husband the final blow
When fordy is ranting, he is also holding the two weapons that love uses to kill people. A knife and the beer bottle. He also makes reference to subliminal messages while he’s holding the two items. So it’s super meta.
I really got the feeling that the new neighbor is his mother. Her hands looked aged, and she was married. He’s always felt connected to her, and he knew right away when he heard her.
The same way he felt connected to Candace and kept having flashbacks in season 1, the Mum flashbacks became way more prominent in season 2, that could possibly mean she will come back somehow.
I also guesses it because in the scene where they met after she introduces herself and they go their separate ways she calls him Will even though he never told her his "name" and he wasn't wearing his name tag either
Maybe I missed it in the video, but Joe also sees all the things you need to see to be a real citizen of LA according to Love’s friends, which already foreshadows that he’s not going to leave LA.
Ikr and it could also symbolise him being “stuck” forever in this never ending cycle of death following him everywhere he goes and him not being able to get rid of the murderer side of him.
another thing, why slitting throat ? it prevents screaming, prevents oxygenated blood and its flow from & to reach brain, yet, quick unconsciousness followed by death in short
When Delilah’s death was shown I had a feeling that it wasn’t Joe that killed her because her throat was slit. That doesn’t fit his character and it would have been super predictable if the writers had him kill her.
Kara Wie In the book Forty was a novelist who wrote a bestselling book called the Third Twin and he and Joe were trying to adapt that to the screen. Joe did most of the work on the screenplay and he gets pissed when Forty denies him credit for his hard work but is willing to compromise because it may be the only way to stay with Love.
It's weird because 'the third twin' is an actual book, I read it a few years ago. In it the twins/triplets had a housekeeper who would kill people who they thought would hurt the twins to keep them 'safe'. They found out at the end that their 'protecter' was actually the one who killed the people who died. Pretty similar to Joe and/or Love 🧐
Why does no one know the coincedence that the actress playing love was in "the haunting of hill house" where her Character also had a twin Brother & and had a husband that died 🤷🏼♀️ coincedence? I Think not.
The whole thing with Love and Forty doing everything together, being twins, and a “package deal” goes to a whole new level when Forty calls Love while her and Joe are getting it on, and she still has Joe’s member in her hand. On the other side of the phone, Forty is also holding a giant banana...
beck's book is called "the dark face of Love." EDIT: since this is getting likes. this is something i would like to see in season 3. u know what would be brilliant in the show "YOU"? if there was a character (maybe a cop or a long lost brother) that had an identical backstory to Joe's. but didn't end up a sociopath. a lot of joe's justification for murder is traced back to his childhood trauma. that could have been part of the reason why he does what he does, but that still isn't enough to garner sympathy. this season was brilliant of how joe came face to face with his wrongdoings through Love. feel the effect would have been larger if someone else (someone not a sociopath) also made him come in terms with his mistakes. i gave a beck analogy earlier, a lot of people commented on it. which why i said, beck's backstory wasn't explored as much and doesn't come near joe's.
Unity Because at the end of season 2 we find that Love has a dark, evil side to her just like Joe. The title of Becks' book was foreshadowing the whole time.
Dana Shearer I think it is a reference to the actress, since Forty says it was a ridiculous name and “was Britney Spear already taken?”. Notice that he said Spear, without an S at the end, just like Candace’s name, Amy Adam, without the S in Adams
So here's a thought. In season 1, it is revealed that Candace has a twin brother named Jimmy, and Jimmy is dead. This season Candace died. Love is also a twin, and Forty died this season. So maybe Love will die next season.
First episode. Anavrin. We hear Love’s thoughts. It’s like we’re hearing Joe talk. Something feels wrong, but I ignore it. Turns out we had the end of the season within the first minutes...
I don't believe so. If you watch Episode 8 where Joe grabs the glass to hurt Forty, Joe's mom has her hand on the back of Joe's neck which exposes her ring and it doesn't have a stud like the neighbor has on her ring. But who knows, she possibly married someone new.
I think they made references to haunting of hill house as well: Love (who is played by the same actress as Nell in HoHH) is also a twin to a helpless brother and also a widow!
Can someone talk about how Love openly compares him to Dexter - when we've all been thinking it for the past year or so? Love how they decided to embrace it!
Forty says Old sport multiple times like the great Gatsby who are were both put into money both had a woman in there life who was eventually were a murder and also both were the saviour but was shot in the back for looking like the murder for saving the love
kerry dent when he was in the hotel rewriting his script you can see on the white board he wrote something about the great gatsby. it’s very subtle you might have to pause to see it on there
I totally thought that forty had something going on for joe but then it never happened because forty died ( and also he was straight tf ?) and I’m kind of mad about it ngl . Forty was annoying at times but he was a very interesting character and didn’t deserve to me killed off :(
i remember the guy who gave will/joe a massage said the healthy find the healthy and the bad find the bad or something along those lines, indicating that love was bad because joe was bad and they found each other
The actress who plays Delilah played a tiny tiny role, Denise Martinez, in Crazy Ex Girlfriend, she appears in season one saying only “hey girl” and in season four as the same character just for a minute. CEG takes place in WEST COVINA. In You, Delilah talks about her past and says she used to live in Covina. I thought the cameo in season 4 had something to do with that.... maybe someday we’ll know...
yea noone really rooted for joe ... those who did, they better visit a therapist. Cus it's definetly not normal to like a creepy stalker/kidnapper/murder-serial killer. I was rooting for candace obviously... she was the real deal and a very interesting story line. But she didn't expect that psycho joe would actually meet a psycho girl and that they would go killing spree into the sunset together -.-... the girls that joe finds were supposed to be the victims, not the villains. She couldn't predict that... Delailah was also a fine character but the moment i saw her , like literally episode 1.. i knew she is dead... she had this vibe that she will get raped and die i don't know why. And actually she was MAYBE raped? And then she died.. too predictable
@@akhsdenlew1861 Its kind of unfair to say, people who root for character A = insane people who need to be locked up 1. its just a show, entirely fiction. IRL is a different story though. 2. The entirety of the show is displayed from Joes POV and he is the central character we follow. You get to see all the good (helping others), humour (him roasting everyone in his head) and the darkest parts of joe (stalking/murdering others) of him. 3. the show manipulates the viewers into liking joe by making the characters unlikeable in some sort of way by revealing their bad traits/wrong doings, occasionally making joe seem to care about innocent children and lastly the fact that we barely ever get to hear other characters thoughts for much of a substantial time 4. He is just interesting, its not to say he was a good person because he clearly isn't. but going in-depth into his hypocritical thought process, obsession with books and his own idea of love. Even at some points he sees from his own BS and realizes he is the bad person but just like in real life he would quickly throw it as far as possible in the back of his mind because its something people don't want to confront. 6. they give him a boohoo backstory, my dad beat the crap out of me!, I had to murder my own father!, my mother used to abandon me!, and my step dad locked me in a glass box. To be honest though that would really mess up a child. Not excused at all.. but it shows the viewers that all his crazy came from nowhere. 7. Every time joe has killed someone the people, he has been raised by having blame shifted away from him and both of his caretakers have justified it as "not your fault", it kind of explains why he does it himself a lot " I didn't kill her" as if he doesn't have the potential to do it intentionally. When he killed his dad his mother absolved the crime and hid it. When he pushed the guy off the ledge killing him, his step dad covered for him and also told him it wasn't his fault. 7. If he died/or got caught by the police, then the show would end. I like this show. I want joe to fully develop before we get an ending for him good or bad. Right now he is starting to question himself and I think spending time will love would be good because now he has the time to see himself in the mirror for what he is not what thinks he is.
I'm so glad that the second season didn't suck like the second book did. Honestly Hidden bodies is one of the most frustrating things I've ever read. One of the rare moments when the adaptation is better that the book itself. Props to the writers
@@melissasmith9242 that Joe feels like a total different person, is not the character that was presented to us in the first book. A third of the book is completely boring, almost nothing happens. And at the end Joe is madly in love with Love, wants to marry her, but goes to jail and has some sort of epiphany and from there the novel starts sounding like a rom-com. It's pure trash honestly.
Papa Franku then imagine they’re not sure if they want you because you’re not as perfect as they thought you were.... or something along the lines of that...
JOE becomes WILL who meets a new girl named LOVE and he colloquially uses the word YOU when meeting a new woman or referring to the woman of his desires. JOE WILL LOVE YOU.
actually her ... whatever plan that was, worked.. somehow. But how could she really predict that joe's next "supposely" victim is an ever worse psycho- serial killer than joe himself? Noone predicted that....
When Delilah broke into joes “basement” he caught her because he put up a security system, so couldn’t he just go back to it and find out who killed Delilah.. that’s the only part that confused me.
Kristina Y I don’t think it was security in the basement, I think whenever she was snooping around in his apartment, she seen the keys and got them. He knew about it because he said he had a nanny cam or a cam in his house.
I think Joe tells he has a 'Nanny Cam' in his apartment. He saw delilah finding keys to storage room. But yeah i thought of it too, why not have a cam in storage room too.
i loved his character too but honestly. he didn't even have an hard evidence against joe (even if he was guilty) and he was going to KILL HIM! after joe keeping his murder secret and dealing with his shit for the past month. you'd think he'd have a bit more sympathy
I spotted 2 gossip girl references I guess: the first time love goes to joe's apartment, she knocks on the door and yells "hey brooklyn", not sure if that same ep or the next one but joe is trying to find a guy named rufus...
Watch the scene when Ellie asks Joe and Love where her sister is, Love looks extremely suspicious but it is not picked up on due to the belief Joe killed her but her facial expressions show it all
Yup picked up on it the first time, the way she acted almost as if she was protecting joe and steering away Ellie but also looked guilty at the same time.
As a huge RPDR fan, I was so happy when Gabe mentioned Mama Ru's famous quote "If you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love somebody else?" and Forty made Mama Ru the safe word. It was hilarious.
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Flicks And The City in season one as joe is entering a party there is a group of people in the background that mentions a book that was written while the author was on acid
The comment from Love to Joe about Dexter. I started watching You because it reminded me of Dexter.
Yeah! You can see Candace at the party in the scene where Forty was wielding that knife!
Aliyah Lofton which episode?
The Nirvana T-Shirt that Beck uses is Joe's, he said to her, while on the cage in the last episode that she likes to wear this t-shirt to sleep, so maybe it's his mother. Also, Paco and his mother moved to California in season 1.
Kinda disappointed that Delilah died though, I thought finally Joe has a friend.
Will Bettelheim
It was obvious. She thought he was suspicious at first and even when they were talking she said she stuck to her first impression no matter what
The moment she started snooping around his apartment I knew she was done for.
I felt so sorry for Ellie
Frances Jaranilla it seemed like he was really going to let her go too!
can everyone in the comments become detectives like wtf y’all finding the tiniest details in this damn season i’m well impressed
Adham K Right 😂
Hire meeeee hahahahaha in my language peach is not the name of a fruit so i didn't found that one
Adham K totally
hahaha so true. and I'm here like with my mind blown
but the room was 237 in the shining not 217
When Candace tried to break into Joe's house and Delilah stopped her to ask why she was there, Candace described the earrings that Beck wore most of Season 1.
CreativeBre Robinson oh my gosh!!! I didn’t even notice that🔥
@@camrynpeterson3939 Yep, saw it when I rewatched a few episodes of season 1.
Nice!!!
what is the exact episode on s1? Thanks!
@@moonchildgaming7519 Can't remember the exact episode, but when Joe asked her about sleeping with her therapist and she confessed.
When Love leaves the storage after seeing Delilah's corpse, she throws up outside. That detail was not indicative of Love feeling disgusted, but of her being pregnant. After a few scenes, it is obvious that Love handles blood and corpses like a psyco.
Exactly.
Great catch!!
not really .. joe threw up after dismembering jasper.
ELLDG but Love threw up because he’s pregnant. Shes not Joe.
It could be that she is pregnant, but I took it that she wanted Candace to see her vulnerable and freaking out so she went to make herself throw up in the trash can and grabbed a broken bottle from there to kill her with as well!
Joe stopped loving Love when he realized the true her because he sees himself when he sees her and he hates himself
Andrea Hischak well hes obsessed with protecting a vulnerable woman ever since he shot his dad as a child. hes in love with the idea of innocent woman (such as his mother) who needs protection, so i doubt he actually loves love. she isnt what he wants after exposing herself
Also, in addition to what y’all are saying love is in love with the darkness in Joe which he hates himself.. hence him always trying to find someone innocent who can almost “force” him to be good. Because he needs the help to be good.
See joe wants to be the man his mom says he is. He wants to be a good guy who does bad things. It’s all got to do with his mother, which is why they focused on her so much this season. Joe’s says he’s mother was a “saint”, so he falls in love with women he has convinced himself (emphasis on convinced) are “saints”. Because I also don’t think his mom was a saint. Wasn’t she a prostitute or something?
When Beck finds out what joe does, she isn’t grateful like his mother was.. she doesn’t tell him he is still a good man who did what he had to do..she instead says he is disgusting. Joe goes back and forth about whether he is bad or good in his head bc not only is he trying to convince himself the ladies he obsesses with are saints, he is also trying to convince himself he is the man his mom said he was. We see him react the way he did with beck again this season with Hendy, who tells him they are the same and psycho analyzes joe to be a man who does crappy things but tries to compensate for that with being a “hero”.
Essentially, joe wants a woman to be like his mom, and see what his mom saw in him.
Chimwemwe Banda this the exact analysis i've been looking for from someone who's watched the show. so glad someone else caught this as well
Exactly
Also I think he wants to be around someone who doesn’t see him for who he really is. He likes his “good guy” mask.
Did anyone notice Love tried to teach Ellie how to cook bc she knows Delilah isnt coming back
This is insane! My mind is blown right now!!!
Funny, the thing she teaches her
IS HOW TO USE A KNIFE
Her weapon of choice
@@bruty16 to be fair, knifes are kinda essential tools for a kitchen job...
Now if she had used her claws instead of knife to cut the meat, now that would be funny -.-
Whoa!!!! I just realized that 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Yup and her guilt because Love didn’t realize Delilah wasn’t Ellie’s sole caregiver
Beck’s book was called “The dark side of love” and in season 2, we see the dark side of Love.
Niccceeee.
It's called The Dark Face of Love 😁
Haha trueee
Omg true!
HOOOOOLY SHITTTT
“The peaches are mad at you” HOW DIDN’T I PEEP THAT
Julyanna Rose lolol
Julyanna Rose I noticed it I was like ahhh😭
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Julyanna Rose neither did I!!!
When Love meets Joe in morning after LSD trip.. and Love says “ i though i had a rough night “
**kills delilah in the night**
Vivek Suryavanshi I laughed hard at this comment lol!
@@nikkis7375 thanks.. I want the 'moon juice' now 🧃
@@viveksuryavanshi6165 also I didn't understood how she followed Joe during the lsd trip... She was with her mother and she was drunk as fuck... And also what her mother meant when the next morning Joe went to meet forty and she said she knows his secrets too... Like forty didn't had any clue about delilah's murder.. Then what secret she was talking about?? And what forty meant when he said before dying that he had always known about how love tiptoed around... Like did he meant he knew how love killed the girl he loved and blamed it on him.. Basically ruined him. He could've never known that because he himself confessed to Joe about that in lsd trip episode. Ughh... So many unanswered questions... I didn't understood so many things... I don't get if these were writing mistakes or pre planed.
@@sg_1541 Love was obsessed with Joe from the Get-Go.. She followed him during the LSD Night. Also, Joe was beaten in his own game, he always saw what Love showed him !
SG 008 the secret forty’s mother was talking about was joe “fucking” Delilah during the LSD trip, because that’s what Forty thought happened, and he probably told her. The mom likes joe and therefor - “your secret is safe with me”
Well at least I think, idk
When I realized how similar his relationship with Ellie was to the one he had with Paco I was shocked. They are both young kids who lacked stable parental figures as he did as he got through to them with books.
I feel like he's just portraying the fact that his childhood was fucked up aswell hence books were the only things that helpd him get through with it, so he's doing the same thing to help these other kids I guess.
Nicole Stoddard and they both only had one “parental figure” delilah for ellie, pacos mom for paco
Nicole Stoddard I think he was trying to be “Mooney” for Paco and Ellie
I think its the writers illustrating the fact that Joe can only see himself as a good person if he's "saving" those kids. It shows that he's selfish because its not actually for them but proving that he's good (this idea really hit home for me on ep 3 s2 and i realized i only liked him in s1 because of his relationship with paco). But he's ultimately ruining the kids lives (paco knowing joe kills beck, ellie knowing he had something to do with delilahs death etc.)
its honestly sad really thinking about his relationship with the kids and how he influences them
i think he subcontiously ruins their lives so he can swoop in and act like he saved them. since he never had a real example of a father figure he doesnt know how to act like one hence why he pretends.
I like how the last episode is titled “love, actually” because love actually was the one to kill Delilah
it's called Love, Actually because we discover the way Love actually was...
love actually is also the name of a film
Omg I love that
@@hetisiris its open for interpretation.. obviously
They even referenced it early on in the season when Chris D'elia was on stage, he asked, "Who here likes the movie, Love Actually?"
Also the fact that Candace told Joe she'd reveal to him who he really is and give him a mirror image of his crimes. Love ends up being his scary reflection
Kamile Ruz im shook
I’m confused
He signed the text message “XO” when he took Delilah’s phone! Just like when he was Gossip Girl
Hahahahahahahahaha
Woooooahhh
ahahahaha that's cute
That was xoxo though
@@Hannah-ur3pt that would have been too obvious
Delilah called Joe "Hey, Brooklyn" when she was banging at his door mad at him, just like they called him in Gossip Girl
I completely forgot about that!!
I was fine with joe being a killer but a cheater? No no no
Dizzy Livv same. Let’s see 😭
MEEE LMAO
SAME I GOT SO MAD
100%😂😂 when he cheated on Karen with Beck in the first season that was the first moment I was disgusting by him.
He cheated in the first season??
How about that forty calls joe “old sport” then gets shot in the back like Gatsby. Oh and that he also pretends to be someone he’s not like the whole season.
My thoughts exactly - their hotel room design was very art deco too!
Megan A YOOOOO
He also has Great Gatsby on one of the sticky notes on his board when mapping out his film :)
Gatsby was shot in his home and forty was shot in anavrin which is like his home
I KNEW SOMETHING WAS UP WITH THAT “Old sport”
I also noticed that Love didn't react at all when Ellie came into Joe's apartment and asked him if he's done hooking up with Delilah (in front of Love). A hint showing she had already taken care of that problem.
Thats brilliant !!! i was wondering till now why she haven't really reacted. I remember the look she had when they both knew Delilah is dead and he was hugging Ellie, while thinking, all guilty: "I know what you think. That I am a good man." And her face full of empathy.. Oh my god!!!!
When she came in and Will had a headache from the LSD she said 'and I thought I had a rough night' right before Ellie came in to ask for her sister
She's psycho.
Probably that friend of candace’s that joe saw with beck at peaches party
I just find it funny how he finds someone as crazy as him who’s pregnant with his baby and still is about to get caught up with another women...I’m weak
I KNOW, LIKE BITCH U HAVE EVERYTHING RIGHT IN FRONT OF U AND UR GONNA GET CAUGHT UP IN ANOTHER WOMAN. NO.
Saaaritaaa xx I think it shows that Joe isn’t looking for acceptance or even a REAL relationship. He wants a manufactured perfect fantasy of his own creation. His obsession with love isn’t a healthy one obviously
A lot of people think it’s gonna be his mom
Joe is only interested in “pure” women (he’s constantly referring to how “good” Love is throughout the season). As soon as she revealed her true colours, he lost interest. And woosh, onto the next.
Frl tho. I’m lowkey upset about that because love is crazy just like him and she accepts him and she’s thinking that he loves her back but he’s with her bc of the baby if not he would’ve slit her throat 🤦🏾♂️. (I like love)
Beck's book was titled 'The dark face of Love' - a hint to the fact that Love Quinn is a dangerous woman
WOAHHH
Oh f yessss
Remember Candace telling Joe to not even think about hurting her because she was texting someone every day to let them know she was okay? Who was she texting and will they show up in Season 3??
salttothesea I thought it would be the female officer she met at the station when she first went to report Joe
I forgot about that!!
salttothesea I thought she was bluffing
Ooo maybe that female office will be the neighbor
Hopefully they'll show up
Joe Goldberg and Love Quinn are perfect for each other. They might even be a reference to another certain psycho couple.
*JOEker and Harley QUINN*
Mind blowing
Damn that’s an awesome connection!! 🤯🤯🤯
That’s a dope ass reference 🔥
One of Joker’s aliases is Joe Kerr
SoulScyther 666 🤯🤯🤯
The biggest plot twist is that Forty is straight 🤭
Persian Menor Thought I was the only one!! 🤣😂
Yes!!!! I at first thought pansexual
😂😂😂😂 I actually thought he was bisexual.
Well he IS really gay but plays a straight dude lol
I’m pretty sure he’s not straight there was a mention of him once using Hendys anal cavity haha
i loved this season it was so GOOD, was hooked the whole time.
Glad you enjoyed it, Bubarim - me too! 😊
Me too! Watched it all in one sitting 😂❤️
Bubarim Almeida SAME
I thought it was a little bit slower in the beginning compared to Season 1 but the end episodes got me!!
Bubarim Almeida who knew love was like that 😳😱
Kinda funny but The show could be called “You” because when someone asks what you’re watching you’d say “you” and sound like a stalker...just like the show.
MimsterTravels HOLY SHIT hahahaha
I picked up on that when I first starting watching it and I was like omg I get it 😂
omfg this is actually mindblowing lol
That's were the memes come in
My brother asked me "what are you watching?" i said "you" and he was like "i know you are looking at me but are you watching on Netflix?" 😂😂😂😂😂
Season 2 begins with Joe saying “Love, this is why you’re not for me”
Damn
How come I missed that
That Brittney Spear one liner gets me every time😂
Megan A me too!
yessssss
Sameee😂
Sameeeee! 😂
OOOOOOH now I get it I was like why did he say it like that maybe it's a reach of what I'm thinking but yea 😂
I feel like Joe was more likable in this season than in season 1.
I hated joe at the start of season 2 because I couldn't get over the fact that he killed beck but eventually started liking him again
sun why would you like him when it’s so obvious that he’s like the same piece of shit? When he stalks his neighbour??
@@benjidalton3643 I don't know it's weird, I really want joe to get caught but I also don't? does that even make sense? i feel like it's just the show doing a great job making this character so perfect, he's so sick yet.. so normal? I don't know how they do it
Alexander Garcia honestly I’m the same like tbh can’t say I liked Forty all that much till the episode he died in lol that’s when he redeemed himself for me. But so slack to kill Delilah and Candice, the ONLY characters I liked and then to just fuck off Ellie. I feel you, this season and the characters in it were just a mess!
sun he’s so sick but definitely not normal! He may superficially appear normal to others but that’s not hard to do, especially when you’re like a serial killer like he is lol.
All i know is when he uses a black cap he activates the stalker mode.
Edit: omg 3,8K likes in one day, crazyy, never had so many guys u are awesome 🇧🇷
Isabel Mont yup
no way sherlock😂
That iconic dark cap that makes him invisible to everyone, even if right by their side stalking lol
Isabel Mont the cap isn’t black it’s denim blue.
Isabel Mont 😂😂💯
Love's way of killing is a reference from the phrase "When a wolf strikes, it goes straight for the throat". also an "I wolf you" reference.
Yeah 🤯
when I first watched the scene where Love tried to scare Joe with wolf toy, I thought she was weird because she actually went straight for the throat even with the toy :Dd
Lesson from season 2:" A woman will accept a man for who they are but if a woman reciprocate the same energy , man can't handle it." Saw this in some comment section. Credit to original commenter.
Do you y'all not understand that she killed Delilah, leaving Ellie to take care of herself. I would feel disgusted too.
@@zorrothethief6065 yes but what they mean is joe found his match. Someone like him. He wasn't satisfied. The only reason he didn't kill love is because she's preggo. But he doesn't love her anymore. Even though he's a killer too, in his mind he didnt do anything wrong.
People are saying that LOVE still loves Joe no matter what. JOE can't handle the fact that she's a murder.
@@marieschrader9150 most of the people he killed were all types of bad. Mean while all the people Love killed were innocent
Sadness exactly. Joe finally meets his literal soulmate...someone who loves him the way he wants to love and be loved, and what does he do? He immediately casts her as a villain. It goes to show you that Joe is never actually going to have the loving relationship he so desires. No relationship will ever live up to his fantasy.
I think that's a good observation of the general hypocrisy of humans. The whole, albeit obviously much less lethal, "I want someone to accept me for exactly who I am, but I also want someone who meets this checklist of desires" concept.
Will betillhiem only person that survived after being locked in that glass cage lol
Joe Goldberg too
a legend
Sms The Spidey And Joe
Because hes a dude. Notice how all the women get killed. Its because joe is a misogynist.
You forget Will?
This season was amazing, but what makes me laugh is that when he puts on his hat he thinks he’s invisible 😂😂
Exactly! He looks more suspicious
Sarah Suliman I would laugh when he would put it on LMAO
Well I mean, he got away with literally everything, so he sorta is...!
Lmao so true
i think that is purposefully done to show how ridiculous he is in his own world. the hat doesn't help, but its his perspective. and to him, it does.
Forty dosing Joe with acid was honestly such an interesting twist to this season.
ikkkkkkk
Fuck that it was annoying. Let the boy go and he won't even be with love anymore urghhhh
When Love said that Beck was mediocre and didn’t deserve Joe. LOL
joemago I mean she really didn’t she was very selfish.
She didn't lie. Beck deserved better though.
i mean she had a point
Love was right 😂😂
Love was right 😂😂
The show also references macbeth when joe looks down at his bloody hands and feels the guilt.
Uho Butter yeah i noticed that, can thank english lit gcse for that
i was looking for this comment, didn't see it, wrote my own comment talking about this reference, then found your comment lol. im really surprised that wasn't in this video, i thought it was quite obvious and also extremely fitting
both Macbeth and Lady Macbeth were ambitious for the throne similarly to how Love and Joe are overly and psychopathically ambitious for love. Perhaps in the end they both will be wracked with guilt which results in death..
Lol my mom told me that one. It's actually really interesting
I thought when Love asked Joe about the Peach looking like a butt was essentially referencing that peach was an asshole. 🤣🙈
And Joe said "all peaches look like butts" which could actually mean that
I love how this series uses Joe's character development and thought processes in order to manipulate audiences from Joe's perspective. It's like, the audience is fully aware that joe is a psychopathic serial killer, but somehow the writers make it so he can be sympathized with and still have audiences "rooting" for him in a way. It's like we're being put in the victim's shoes, every time he kills somebody the audiences adjust after an episode or two to like the character again. very clever
Not me haha I was still hoping he would get turned into the police for his crimes. But not actually die just so everyone who thinks he's innocent can see he's really a crazy murderer.
Holly underrated comment.
I don't like Joe at all. Speak for yourself. 😂😂😂😂😂
I was never disgusted by his murders. It's not like I was angry and only after authors made me empathize with him again, I liked him for the whole time.
Speak for yourself.
if you read the book, it’s completely different. joe is completely different. in the show, there’s a certain humanity left in joe and we can reason for why he’s doing the things he does. there’s also the good things, like helping paco, that seem to even out the bad things in the show. however, in the book, paco doesn’t exist. he doesn’t hesitate killing benji. he doesn’t mind dismembering his corpse at all. he’s scary, and the reasons that he commits the murder seem more selfish than helpful.
you also get to see beck’s death in the book and how much he battles between it being her fault, then he feels guilt. he eventually strangles her, but moves on almost hours after burying her.
it’s very cool, i recommend reading it.
When Milo called Love "babe" she was like, "if you call me babe again I'll slit your throat" or sum like that and he looked genuinely worried for a second. I thought it was weird how he was scared at the time, but now it makes sense.
Edit: thanks for all the likes! :)
And Joe and Back joked about couples who call each other babe, he feels weird when Karen called him "babe", he kinda likes her less because of that
@@brunaoliveira4941 ohhh yea!
she said she would put him in the oven hahah i also got weird vibes when she said that. just the way she looked at him creeped me out
@@quinn7937 same!
Also, she did it in his australian accent, which was funny
When a wolf attacks, it goes straight to the throath.
WOW
OH SHIT
Where is the throath exactly?
her hand also flew up straight to his throat during their first “real” sex scene, and in the first episode she bit his neck in his fantasy....don’t know it those were hints, are pretty normal things to do, in fact, buuuuut......
And they always said "i wolf you" to each other!!!!
In the final scene where Forty was shot by the cop... Here is my theory - The gun that Forty held against Joe was never loaded. It was part of the scheme that Forty had with Love, to test Joe. Remember Love asked Forty to "walk me through the plan" when Joe was waiting outside? Unfortunately, the cop came in and killed Forty "accidentally". Love cried hysterically and if this theory held true, the cop will suffer to death in next season.
I like this theory! Cuz he was taking forever to just shoot him too!
KINA yeah and I feel love would’ve physically stopped him bc it’s not in her nature to hesitate or step back
I feel like Love knew the cop was following Joe so the plan she had with Forty was to get Joe to confess to the murders but since Joe actually never confessed Forty was going to try to force him to confess but the cop that was following saw this going down and shot Forty
i seriously think this WILL be a concept for next season, especially considering they aren’t leaving LA and Love is still crazy and all. smart man
this is a good theory! i was also saying to myself “watch the gun not even be loaded” before forty was about to shoot joe bc he seemed to be bluffing when doing it
Anyone noticed the tennis references “forty” and “love”
Whats forty in tennis?
Zam Araojo a score
Zam Araojo 40 points
The actor who plays Joe is Penn Badgley. His mother named him Penn after the tennis ball brand because she used one to squeeze while giving birth to him!
Zam Araojo When players reaches forty points in tennis, they win.
I love how joe thinks he’s invisible when he wears a cap
When Love told Milo that she'll cook him in the oven if he'll call her babe, is a reference to Karen Minty calling Joe Goldberg 'Babe' in season 1 and he hated it.
Whenever Candace would say something on the lines of “murder has a way of following you”, “murder finds murder”, “murder follows murder” to Joe it was really foreshadowing Love’s past and present.
I’m just sitting here reading ur comments like dang are y’all detectives ????😂
Me too lol
Me too...and at the same time getting my mind blown by all the details that I missed 😂😂😂 I feel like I’m watching the episodes again lol
Lmao, same here
Tell me about it😂😂
😂Same!!!!😂😂😂😂
In the scene where love is cutting the meat it’s an homage to the short story by Roald Dahl called Lamb to the slaughter. It’s about a wife that kills her husband with frozen lamb chops and serves it to the detectives. I thought that was very clever. Lambs also symbolize innocence and she’s chopping up lamb.
YES I also remembered that story when I was watching this! thought I was the only one!!
Mira Bayraktar yes!!!!
Yes! I remember reading the book and watching the film in English class. It's such a brilliant storyline.
Can you explain what you mean about killing the husband with lamb and serving it to the detectives pls
@@sssophie9292 Here's a link to the story: www.classicshorts.com/stories/lamb.html
Not an Easter egg, but is anyone else convinced that Love probably killed her husband? 😬
Yes! I think Love poisened him. When Joe was in the box and hesitates to eat the muffin, Love got mad because she thought Joe thought there was poison in it.. weird explanation, but do you get it?
Ellen Biesmans I wondered about that moment as well. Not only was it a quick response to his hesitation but she was so immediately angry about it too.
Idk if she’s the one who made him sick initially or not, but the whole “doctors couldn’t find anything” made me think she poisoned that poor guy w/foxglove or something.
It was odd that she didn’t speak ASL to her husband that much either, and he seemed completely deaf - not hearing impaired, as though he could speak & chose not to. That struck me as weird & kind of made me not like her, until I realized she was actually a murderer & therefore cool, lol. Disclaimer: I’m a fan of the baddies; I almost always root for the villains, lol. 😬
Harangue Meringue right! Regarding the pastries in the locker: checkovs pastries. and that specific pastry she references twice as being time consuming - perhaps it was the pastry that served her husband the final blow
Wendling K That’s right! And we should just rename them Chekov’s Pastries, lol. 😂 I love that! 😬
Harangue Meringue my theory was she euthanised him
When fordy is ranting, he is also holding the two weapons that love uses to kill people. A knife and the beer bottle. He also makes reference to subliminal messages while he’s holding the two items. So it’s super meta.
Good catch!!
I didn't even notice that!
Delilah was arguably one of the best characters. i wanted to drop the show after she died 😭
Really? Nah one of least fav characters id smash tho.
I didn’t hate her, but I knew from the start she was gonna die so I tried to not get too attached.
She drove me nuts honestly
definitely liked her way more than Love lmao
I didn't liked her much but I felt really bad because of Ellie. Like really really bad. Because I've got a crazy little sister too 😅😅😅
I really got the feeling that the new neighbor is his mother. Her hands looked aged, and she was married. He’s always felt connected to her, and he knew right away when he heard her.
Aaliyah Dimarco that would be wicked
I said the same thing like that’s definitely his mom! Let’s hope so! Lol
Really don’t want it to be his mum... it’d be way too predictable 😅
The same way he felt connected to Candace and kept having flashbacks in season 1, the Mum flashbacks became way more prominent in season 2, that could possibly mean she will come back somehow.
Melissa N facts!!!
For some reason I just really liked Will Bettelheim. I really hope he’s involved in the next season in some way.
I knew love was off when she showed up to Joe's place without him even telling her where he lived ... O.o
She was his employer, I think mine have always known where I’ve lived just never have showed up at my house
I think in season 1 Beck did the same
I also guesses it because in the scene where they met after she introduces herself and they go their separate ways she calls him Will even though he never told her his "name" and he wasn't wearing his name tag either
Linda M he did say his name, at first I thought he said “Well” but he said “Will” 😊
Gab Rielle He didn’t know she owned the place yet
Major plot twists:
Forty Quinn is straight (tf?)
Joe using delilah's face to unlock her phone (using face ID?) when she has an Iphone 8?
It could be an app but idk
😹😹😹😹
Yeah. I was laughing so hard at the phone part
Jaden TV i shipped forty with joe tbh
So are we just not talking about the plot twist about how Love was a psycho murder? lmao
Maybe I missed it in the video, but Joe also sees all the things you need to see to be a real citizen of LA according to Love’s friends, which already foreshadows that he’s not going to leave LA.
I knew it ugh. The constant LA lingo they use is annoying
Ikr and it could also symbolise him being “stuck” forever in this never ending cycle of death following him everywhere he goes and him not being able to get rid of the murderer side of him.
Nope, in S3 Joe moved to Madre Linda
It breaks my heart that the sassy characters ALWAYS DIE! First it was Peach and then it was Delilah but I’m still obsessed with YOU
Well Peach had it coming and Deliliah's death made me the big sad
N Is True God same...I really hate Love for that exact reason
@@ltd8461 omg same I can't believe that bitch killed cadence and Delilah
@@nataliecf9007 same man :(
Saffron A-I why are you obsessed with me wtf
I still can't believe I predicted the twist about Love! All my friends said I watch too many horror movies lol WHO'S CRAZY NOW BTCHESSSS?
You tell 'em, catdog! 🤣 Well done on catching the twist! 👍
Me and my mom knew she was crazy because of the fact that she would bake when she was angry.
yooo me too, she looked a lil crazy to me
😂foreal first episode when she started talking to joe i could tell she was just like him just off the fact she was aware of her sorroundings
Haha we have a Sherlok holmes here
Didn’t Paco and his mom move to California? I’m bummed we didn’t see him this season.
California is a big place. But still would've been interesting to see Paco back and helping Joe/ Will
I thought that was gonna be the reason everyone found out Joe had been lying. cuz paco would call him Joe
Cecilia Musto taco..
@@carlmartin8006 taco 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How fantastic is Penn Badgley in this series? Seriously so proud of him. Bravo Penn, you're killing it. No pun intended. 😉
I binged this show in two days. I’m just upset I didn’t get started sooner!
WealthisoftheMind I watched it to the morning till night which I do not regret
Same
Jesse Trafton i regret it because there is no more episodes to watch 😔
same.... i finished in 3 days it was really hooked!!! can't wait to the next season:/
Not to brag but I finished it in one😂
Anybody else weirded out by how Love kills all her victims by slitting their throat?
She's really good with using knives when cutting vegetables, meats etc she's a cook
I didn’t even notice that 😭
Yep, the hallmark of a serial killer
another thing, why slitting throat ? it prevents screaming, prevents oxygenated blood and its flow from & to reach brain, yet, quick unconsciousness followed by death in short
When Delilah’s death was shown I had a feeling that it wasn’t Joe that killed her because her throat was slit. That doesn’t fit his character and it would have been super predictable if the writers had him kill her.
i loved forty's short being titled "the third twin" upon rewatch. could be seen as a reference to love's dark side!! :D
Kara Wie In the book Forty was a novelist who wrote a bestselling book called the Third Twin and he and Joe were trying to adapt that to the screen. Joe did most of the work on the screenplay and he gets pissed when Forty denies him credit for his hard work but is willing to compromise because it may be the only way to stay with Love.
or there WAS a third twin and Love killed them too
there’s a scene in the series when forty wears a shirt with “the third twin” written on it, and one of the twins is crossed out in the design
DoctorWeeTodd how the book is 80% diff from the season
It's weird because 'the third twin' is an actual book, I read it a few years ago. In it the twins/triplets had a housekeeper who would kill people who they thought would hurt the twins to keep them 'safe'. They found out at the end that their 'protecter' was actually the one who killed the people who died. Pretty similar to Joe and/or Love 🧐
Why does no one know the coincedence that the actress playing love was in "the haunting of hill house" where her Character also had a twin Brother & and had a husband that died 🤷🏼♀️ coincedence? I Think not.
and her twin in both shows had substance abuse issues
Ikr super uncanny. It’ll be funny if Victoria Pedretti’s next role is the same again...
Anyone else miss Delilah...?
Yes and Forty too. Man he gave Joe a second chance.
@@alokkore1566 Yeah despite the fact that he was gonna kill Joe, I did find his idiocy charming and when he called Joe family that really got to me
Ya. Every time she appeared I just kept thinking of the song ‘ hey there Delilah’ 😂
@@raygeneenglish9484 Same, ngl
Dobara Dekore nah forty was annoying, imagine being his friend in real life
I really felt some type of way for Ellie when I found out Delilah died ): she was all she had left 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Sel ikr
Ellie probably is gonna show up next season
After seeing this video, I can only conclude that season 3 of “YOU” is gonna get CRAZIER.
Omg there is gonna be another season?! Is that confirmed?
Yes! They announced that its renewed for the 3rd season yesterday. Emma Frost
The whole thing with Love and Forty doing everything together, being twins, and a “package deal” goes to a whole new level when Forty calls Love while her and Joe are getting it on, and she still has Joe’s member in her hand. On the other side of the phone, Forty is also holding a giant banana...
LMFAO
beck's book is called "the dark face of Love."
EDIT: since this is getting likes. this is something i would like to see in season 3.
u know what would be brilliant in the show "YOU"? if there was a character (maybe a cop or a long lost brother) that had an identical backstory to Joe's. but didn't end up a sociopath. a lot of joe's justification for murder is traced back to his childhood trauma. that could have been part of the reason why he does what he does, but that still isn't enough to garner sympathy.
this season was brilliant of how joe came face to face with his wrongdoings through Love. feel the effect would have been larger if someone else (someone not a sociopath) also made him come in terms with his mistakes.
i gave a beck analogy earlier, a lot of people commented on it. which why i said, beck's backstory wasn't explored as much and doesn't come near joe's.
Omgosh
WHAT THE FRIIIIIIIICKKKKK
@@DeekshaTries wait wait can somebody explain why this is a big deal
Unity Because at the end of season 2 we find that Love has a dark, evil side to her just like Joe. The title of Becks' book was foreshadowing the whole time.
Unity the title foreshadows how Love ends up with a dark side, just like Joe
I found he Amy Adam Easter egg a bit funny because ironically Amy Adams, the actress...has red hair and blue eyes like Candice 😂.
Hadn't taken in the blue eyes similarity, Miranda - well spotted! 😊
That's who I literally thought she got the name from
Amy Adam is actually a character in the book that was never in the series so its just a nod to that.
Dana Shearer I think it is a reference to the actress, since Forty says it was a ridiculous name and “was Britney Spear already taken?”. Notice that he said Spear, without an S at the end, just like Candace’s name, Amy Adam, without the S in Adams
"Joe" "Will" "Love" "You" or even just "Will" "Joe" "Love" "You"
or you will love joe
Men what about paul tho lmao
@@Laptopdiariespodcast YEAH THATS SMART
"You love Joe, Will"
Secret love between Bettelheims? 😉😂
Joe Will Love You
**Joe wears a cap, suddenly, he thinks he's invisible**
So here's a thought. In season 1, it is revealed that Candace has a twin brother named Jimmy, and Jimmy is dead. This season Candace died. Love is also a twin, and Forty died this season. So maybe Love will die next season.
No I can't see love dying 😔
Her smile kills me ♥️
Maybe while giving birth
u called it!!!!!
u were right bro
First episode. Anavrin. We hear Love’s thoughts. It’s like we’re hearing Joe talk. Something feels wrong, but I ignore it. Turns out we had the end of the season within the first minutes...
I’ve never binged on a show like I binged in YOU. What a great show
Same dude
Joe's hat when hes in stalker mode is the equivalence to dexter's green shirt when hes about to kill.
Yes!! I LOVE Dexter as well,and this show definitely gave me Dexter vibes
The woman in the end scene is wearing the same ring as Joe’s mother
Carolina Silva is she???
I don't believe so. If you watch Episode 8 where Joe grabs the glass to hurt Forty, Joe's mom has her hand on the back of Joe's neck which exposes her ring and it doesn't have a stud like the neighbor has on her ring. But who knows, she possibly married someone new.
i was personally looking at the rings his mother worn and none of them are the same
I think they made references to haunting of hill house as well:
Love (who is played by the same actress as Nell in HoHH) is also a twin to a helpless brother and also a widow!
Freja
HOLY SHIT! You’re right! I didn’t realize that was Nell.. 🤯
Wow!!!!
Freja omg helpless and an addict😱😱
Interesting!
that was written in the book tho
Can someone talk about how Love openly compares him to Dexter - when we've all been thinking it for the past year or so? Love how they decided to embrace it!
Forty says Old sport multiple times like the great Gatsby who are were both put into money both had a woman in there life who was eventually were a murder and also both were the saviour but was shot in the back for looking like the murder for saving the love
kerry dent YOURE RIGHT WOW I knew it was from gatsby but never looked that deep into it wow that’s good insight !
Forty wrote the great gatsby on his wall too!
Tas when I didn’t see that
kerry dent when he was in the hotel rewriting his script you can see on the white board he wrote something about the great gatsby. it’s very subtle you might have to pause to see it on there
Forty was also in love with Joe.
I'm kinda upset that there wasn't a way for them to end up being at least close friends :(
I totally thought that forty had something going on for joe but then it never happened because forty died ( and also he was straight tf ?) and I’m kind of mad about it ngl . Forty was annoying at times but he was a very interesting character and didn’t deserve to me killed off :(
nah see that's cus you a girl, that's just how you act wit your bros
i remember the guy who gave will/joe a massage said the healthy find the healthy and the bad find the bad or something along those lines, indicating that love was bad because joe was bad and they found each other
Candaces alias of Amy Adam is initialled as ‘AA’ so Forty was literally in ‘AA’ at one point lol 😂
You have too much time on your hands..😂
The actress who plays Delilah played a tiny tiny role, Denise Martinez, in Crazy Ex Girlfriend, she appears in season one saying only “hey girl” and in season four as the same character just for a minute. CEG takes place in WEST COVINA. In You, Delilah talks about her past and says she used to live in Covina. I thought the cameo in season 4 had something to do with that.... maybe someday we’ll know...
Good observation!
When love threw up in the trashcan it wasn't because she was scared.. it was because she was pregnant
luis coronel i figured this too but i wonder why she ran away if she was just going to kill candace
@@januaryembers6611 2 lower her guard. Like everyone else who was caught off by her doing that while watching for the first time lol
@@januaryembers6611 I think she got the broken bottle from the trash can. I think she needed a weapon
every episode was crazier than the previous one
who knew a serial stalker/killer could be so likable. we were rooting for Joe HARD this season.. and the real Will was fckn awesome!
J Kwiz LOVED the real will. I was rooting for him
I feel you I feel you.. I would've taken 40 over Joe any day. 40 was that dude! i hate that he died. NGL
yea noone really rooted for joe ... those who did, they better visit a therapist.
Cus it's definetly not normal to like a creepy stalker/kidnapper/murder-serial killer.
I was rooting for candace obviously... she was the real deal and a very interesting story line.
But she didn't expect that psycho joe would actually meet a psycho girl and that they would go killing spree into the sunset together -.-... the girls that joe finds were supposed to be the victims, not the villains.
She couldn't predict that...
Delailah was also a fine character but the moment i saw her , like literally episode 1.. i knew she is dead... she had this vibe that she will get raped and die i don't know why.
And actually she was MAYBE raped?
And then she died.. too predictable
read the book. joe terrifies me in the book. he doesn’t have the humanity he has in the show.
@@akhsdenlew1861 Its kind of unfair to say, people who root for character A = insane people who need to be locked up
1. its just a show, entirely fiction. IRL is a different story though.
2. The entirety of the show is displayed from Joes POV and he is the central character we follow. You get to see all the good (helping others), humour (him roasting everyone in his head) and the darkest parts of joe (stalking/murdering others) of him.
3. the show manipulates the viewers into liking joe by making the characters unlikeable in some sort of way by revealing their bad traits/wrong doings, occasionally making joe seem to care about innocent children and lastly the fact that we barely ever get to hear other characters thoughts for much of a substantial time
4. He is just interesting, its not to say he was a good person because he clearly isn't. but going in-depth into his hypocritical thought process, obsession with books and his own idea of love. Even at some points he sees from his own BS and realizes he is the bad person but just like in real life he would quickly throw it as far as possible in the back of his mind because its something people don't want to confront.
6. they give him a boohoo backstory, my dad beat the crap out of me!, I had to murder my own father!, my mother used to abandon me!, and my step dad locked me in a glass box. To be honest though that would really mess up a child. Not excused at all.. but it shows the viewers that all his crazy came from nowhere.
7. Every time joe has killed someone the people, he has been raised by having blame shifted away from him and both of his caretakers have justified it as "not your fault", it kind of explains why he does it himself a lot " I didn't kill her" as if he doesn't have the potential to do it intentionally. When he killed his dad his mother absolved the crime and hid it. When he pushed the guy off the ledge killing him, his step dad covered for him and also told him it wasn't his fault.
7. If he died/or got caught by the police, then the show would end. I like this show. I want joe to fully develop before we get an ending for him good or bad. Right now he is starting to question himself and I think spending time will love would be good because now he has the time to see himself in the mirror for what he is not what thinks he is.
noticed none of these, but how could I? I binged the entire season in one day
Love is actually my favorite she’s so Erie and her facial expression are to die for
Her smile kills me 😍🥵
Dev Ghorpade right!!!!😍
I'm so glad that the second season didn't suck like the second book did. Honestly Hidden bodies is one of the most frustrating things I've ever read. One of the rare moments when the adaptation is better that the book itself. Props to the writers
Miguel Ángel what about the book frustrated you?
@@melissasmith9242 that Joe feels like a total different person, is not the character that was presented to us in the first book. A third of the book is completely boring, almost nothing happens. And at the end Joe is madly in love with Love, wants to marry her, but goes to jail and has some sort of epiphany and from there the novel starts sounding like a rom-com. It's pure trash honestly.
@@hxjxangelx Who catches him in the book?
@@king_julian327 the police, for the murder of Brian. One of the most forgettable characters in the whole thing
@@hxjxangelx i just finished watching all the 2 seasons and who the fuck is Brian thats spoiled all this?
The scene where Joe keeps thinking he has blood on his hands when he didn’t is a reference to Shakespeare’s Play *Macbeth*
omg yes this is what i kept thinking!
When you find someone whos crazy as you.
Papa Franku then imagine they’re not sure if they want you because you’re not as perfect as they thought you were.... or something along the lines of that...
But imagine them being much worse than you and they all the people they killed were innocent
Papa Franku and you still don’t love them
Nadiri Myers Joe hates himself, he hates what he's become. So how could he love a mirror of himself👀
@Ale Aus Emmy?
JOE becomes WILL who meets a new girl named LOVE and he colloquially uses the word YOU when meeting a new woman or referring to the woman of his desires.
JOE WILL LOVE YOU.
Thought : CANDACE was useless in the entire season.... Like come one she tried to take down JOE GOLDBERG without a plan.
actually her ... whatever plan that was, worked.. somehow.
But how could she really predict that joe's next "supposely" victim is an ever worse psycho- serial killer than joe himself?
Noone predicted that....
When Delilah broke into joes “basement” he caught her because he put up a security system, so couldn’t he just go back to it and find out who killed Delilah.. that’s the only part that confused me.
Kristina Y I don’t think it was security in the basement, I think whenever she was snooping around in his apartment, she seen the keys and got them. He knew about it because he said he had a nanny cam or a cam in his house.
I think Joe tells he has a 'Nanny Cam' in his apartment. He saw delilah finding keys to storage room. But yeah i thought of it too, why not have a cam in storage room too.
I think he only put a security system/camera in his apartment, not the storage unit.
He put up a security system in his apartment, he seen Delilah pick up a key that is for his secret basement that’s why he knew she went there
I didn't even notice that! Wait, I wanna go back to check, I can't believe I missed it lmao
I'm convinced that they are advertising the show through memes because they are EVERYWHERE
Forty was an amazing character in season 2, he definitely deserved better.
Pals P forty was a drug addict who drugged others without their knowledge
i loved his character too but honestly. he didn't even have an hard evidence against joe (even if he was guilty) and he was going to KILL HIM! after joe keeping his murder secret and dealing with his shit for the past month. you'd think he'd have a bit more sympathy
I spotted 2 gossip girl references I guess: the first time love goes to joe's apartment, she knocks on the door and yells "hey brooklyn", not sure if that same ep or the next one but joe is trying to find a guy named rufus...
You forgot the great gatsby easter egg. Forty is always saying "old sport" like Gatsby did. Gatsby ends up getting shot and so does Forty at the end.
Watch the scene when Ellie asks Joe and Love where her sister is, Love looks extremely suspicious but it is not picked up on due to the belief Joe killed her but her facial expressions show it all
Jacob Sambrook Yes exactly, Love’s body language tells it all. Pretending to care to ask Ellie about her sister when they were in the kitchen.
joemago I didn’t realise until I watched it again to pick up on things I missed and it’s so weirdly obvious by her body language that she is guilty
I noticed that too lol she wasn't worried enough.
Ditto! That face as she watched Ellie breakdown said it all. It’s like what she was telling Joe, it was always there to be seen.
Yup picked up on it the first time, the way she acted almost as if she was protecting joe and steering away Ellie but also looked guilty at the same time.
As a huge RPDR fan, I was so happy when Gabe mentioned Mama Ru's famous quote "If you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love somebody else?" and Forty made Mama Ru the safe word. It was hilarious.