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I get how Love had to go. But I still wish he had not have to kill her. Love represented anyone who could go toe to toe with Joe. The rest were all helpless victims and easy prey. I am as tired about the helpless female victim trope as much as the danzle in distress trope. Love made it enjoyable to watch how she for a while had a grip on the situation and made Joe see who he was by showing him that she was the face of the same coin. They didn't have to kill her, maybe they could of had Joe frame her or just run away.
You guys are amazing I'm a new subscriber ❤️😆 Also I'm glad he killed Love she was fucking it up for him causing more issues he actually calmed down on his urge to kill but she caused problems for him to pick up the pieces for her. I don't know why but I'm glad how Joe survived even though he's a crazy murderer he's amazing and love the actor 😁
this season literally had me screaming at love through the screen. her impulsiveness was so annoying and literally caused nearly all the issues that happened in the show. i dont know if i wanted her to die tho, that still made me a bit sad lmao.
Lol right. She was so annoying. Her being dead is still unreal to me. Joe was so over her from he found out she was just like him. Him planning to run away was so funny lol
Love was my fav character… yes her impulsiveness this season honestly kind of ruined the amazing character she was in season 2… however i still was honestly rooting for her to kill joe and escape with henry……
@@dariusgoran2207 sherry was amazing throughout the season she was mean but she rocked that rudeness! My problem is why does nobody have alarms or cameras in their homes or on the streets? They caught joe and the Natalie giving coffee to each other but not him dragging around bodies.
She was annoying but we’re not going to act like joe wasn’t fucking up too. Always chasing after someone else and sabotaging his own marriage. Chased after Natalie, then chased after Marianne. They were both trash.
Love’s last words were perfect.. because they really are perfect for each other. I was hoping they would both be exposed for the psychotic couple they are, like a Bonnie and Clyde love story, but Joe takes the win once again. This season was so chaotic that I forgot all about Ellie.
You have to remember that even though joe and love are the reason for Ellie being in the situation she’s in that them being narcissistic psychos means that they ultimately only care about themselves and Ellie was inevitably just collateral damage. Joe sent her money not for her benefit but for his in the sense that it made him feel like he was being a good person by helping her. He forgot about her because at the end of the day Joe is only out for himself and his actions only benefit himself and his ego. Once he found marienne he moved on to “helping” her because he gets off on being a savior and forgot about Ellie because he no longer needed those deeds to feed his ego.
@UCWL9iZDphj-bNz5oj16cwhA BROO STFU, I'm sorry but shut the fuck up. Joe is a psychopath he isn't narcissistic. If he was he wouldn't try to better himself for Love. If he was he wouldn't kill for them. If he was he wouldn't have let Love live. Your honestly stupid, and I'm sorry for calling you names but everyone seems to not know what a narcissist is? And you really think Joe gave her money to just make her feel good? Dude did we watch the same episode where he was bonding with her and wanted to keep her safe, wanted her to have a good life and follow her dreams. Joe is an obsessive physchopath who doesn't know how to love. If he was a narcissistic he wouldn't be doin all of this for Henry, Bro he even gave Love one of the best decisions which was coparent. Love was the narcissist, she took the life of Delilah while Joe wanted to let her go. She's the one who acted on pulse and just killed just rash, she's the one who would blame and twist Joe's words to make him look like the bad guy. Joe was only prepared if she was gonna kill him, never intended in killing her at all.
@@Jessfi1291 and also Love is the one who wanted to kill him cmon now, Love fits ur description of a narcissist. Joe would actually try and change. Even though he progresses and then ruins it completely he really tries to be better.
Up to this point, Love has been Joe’s only “equal” opponent. I’m sorry to see her go even though she became such an unlikable character in Season 3. She had an uncanny knowledge of Joe’s thought processes and motives and was extremely triggered by his manipulations. I’m hoping that Joe pays for his crimes in Season 4.... he’s such a scary and smug predator. Really liked this review!!!
@@Expert411 I agree Joe is going to die, but wouldn’t it be ironic if Henry grew up to have the predator gene from both of his parents... ? That baby has seen an awful lot 😁
I don't think " She had an uncanny knowledge of Joe’s thought process and motives " rathar an impulsive serial killer given the fact that he outsmarted her at the end, so she didn't really know him imo, she just happens to be obsessive & possessive over her loved ones like Joe in some way, even tho I woud say she was worse because she'd kill for the slightest threat she feels, unlike Joe, so I don't think she was his "equal" opponent
The use of Taylor Swift's exile was perfect for the final Joe and Love scene, loved it. Everyone mentions how unlikeable they found Love but I really like her and I'm sick of Joe. Would've been happy if he was the one to die and s4 was centred around her instead. Not sure why everyone makes excuses for Joe all the time yet Love gets judgement. No, he wasn't trying to be a better person. He's the same old psycho who is always obsessed with a shiny new toy. Hope Love survived the fire and hope there's a good change up for s4 to keep it fresh.
I think because they give Joe's rough childhood story and no real glimpse into Love's. Yes we know her parents suck but it never came to the point where it would be like yes i understand how that can create a sociopath.
@@pierinacamarena2507 agreed... i feel like every "bad guy" who has a rough or sad background/childhood story would made people sympathize more cause we see how that person become.
But Love also had did some screwed up thing. If anything, I’m surprised that not more people are stating on how both of them are bad. Unless you are saying that you just like Love’s character better.
Right?? I got more and more frustrated with him. He doesn't see that she's JUST like him and he judges get for it! He doesn't recognize his patterns he repeats over and over and he's always wrong about the girl! He thinks she's perfect and just kills a ton of people for her, and eventually her!! Ugghhh Love pls get your revenge. I love her craziness tbh, if I'm gonna have a serial killer protagonist I want her!
S1: Joe bitches about New York snobs. S2: Joe bitches about LA Hipsters. S3: Joe bitches about Suburban Socialite culture. I find it interesting that you point out how Paris keeps getting brought up as the idealised “city of choice” to run away to throughout the series. I’m wondering if this is gonna set up Joe becoming disillusioned and bitching about Paris living as well, since he clearly has this tendency to never be happy even when presented with something that would be considered a dream or a fairytale ending.
True, he might experience Paris Syndrome as well haha (In case you haven't heard of the term) "Paris syndrome is a sense of disappointment exhibited by some individuals when visiting Paris, who feel that the city was not what they had expected. The condition is commonly viewed as a severe form of culture shock."
@@Szystedt It kinda reminds me of stories immigrants use to tell about America. Some immigrants use to believe America's street's were paved with gold.
@@TheChannelJ1 Wow hah, I know a part of Swedish history is about many immigrating, saving up for and dreaming about going to America, since they apparantly would give away plots of land, and it felt like an opportunity to get rich and such, IIRC. But, streets paved with gold? Damn, that sure is exaggerated hah, imagine their disappointment lol
Love deserved better. She was really trying to make it work with Joe. And while she did cheat, at least she felt bad about it. Joe literally dropped her like a hot potato in his mind, after they went through all that therapy to become a team. I guess im upset bc Love wasnt a victim but a protagonist. I would have like it much better if they had really worked together to clean up their respective messes. Joe has no loyalty!!
The difference is that Joe never really loved Love. She was only alive because of the baby. Joe tried to work it out , but in the end he had to admit to himself that he could never love her.
Love is a murderer and a cheater!!! She’s a psychopath who only thinks about killing. Joe is trying to be good and he needed to protect his baby from Love. Joe deserves someone good.
@@OpTicLacolas Love and Joe are both TERRIBLE people. Neither one of them deserves someone GOOD, they both should have been gone to prison, ngl its kinda sad that love had to die because they both were equally unhinged butJoe gets away with everything he does while she has to die.
@@OpTicLacolas wtfff???? Joe doesn't deserve better! Why do you feel sorry for a fucking phyco?? He's never gonna stop because he keeps chaising broken girls to fix, and when he gets bored, finds himself a new one and gets rid of the old one and so the pattern continues... And it always will until he gets caught!
I think it's funny that every time he kidnapped someone or killed he would always take the phone and unlock it with face recognition, but he never changed his own phone "maybe because he never thought that could happen to him" so when love paralyzed him she did the exact same thing he did to others, its funny because you would think he wouldn't use face recognition after knowing how dangerous it is
Anyone thinks that this season was way more brutal and mature than season 1 and 2? Cause I was left with big scars from this. At the beginning I was just thinking "aww, look how sweet are Love, Joe and little Henry together, like a family!" and then it got darker like "You" always does and the murderers started, so msny this time. I thought we knew everything about Joe's childhood but seeing so many new flashbacks in this season just made a lot of sense, made me think we knew nothing about Joe, even though we listened to his inner monologue every time. The reason he was so afraid of being abandoned, the reason he's killing every bad person. I wish we knew what happened to his mom though cuz at this point I wouldn't be suprise to find that Joe killed her and her new son. And when the fu*k is Joe gonna learm that things ARE actually gonna be the same everytime?! So many twisted news this season too. I really didn't wanna believe Love killed James. I mean, they seemed so happy, he was such a good man and Love didn't kill people she loves... But that changed in this season, my whole perspective changed. Now I can't stop wondering who is crazier, Joe or Love? At least, in the end Joe realized he's gotta save Henry from him and he left him with a beautiful family where he knew he'd be loved. Remains to be seen if Joe will find Marianne in Paris or find another obsession and continue it all over... Though, I'd like him to have a stalker of himself, a person who became obsessed with him the same way he does, a manipulative person who can show him how obsessive and sick he is. Now, the story of Nick will begin, soon.... :)
Love was kinda like the Joe stalker, who was obsessed with him. I dont know who Nick is, so if you're referring the book then imma just keep quiet coz ive never had the chance to read it
I came to think of one thing. Joe says in the last episode of season three that they tested the DNA in his toes and in season one, he forgot a jar of urine in Peach Salinger's house and her family's PI told Joe that they tested it but got no results, but now that they have his DNA from his toes they can see that the DNA from his toes and the jar of urine matches and they will understand that he was the one killing Peach.
The Quinn family was know to sort any mess their kids created! Could have been Love hired some people to do that for her the way they handled the nanny’s body that love killed when she was young!
@@carriewambui98 true. i just want to know exactly what happened like where are they buried or what did they actually do to the bodies. just some form of closure because i really liked both of them :)
Maybe Love also took adrenaline bc she always seemed to know what Joe was thinking and predicted he’d try to kill her. She just let him think she’s dead for now
Nah she's dead .. he gave her a massive amount which is how she killed her 1st husband.. she said she go the dose wrong so she was letting Joe's dose sep through the skin... Then he of course kept tabs to make sure his plan worked and says she died and everyone bought the story and how his son was given to the gay couple.. he knows to keep tabs but wolfsbane is extremely poisonous so the amount he gave her would have definitely killed her.
@@choppa5220 nah shes gone for good. Unless they bring Victoria back for flashbacks etc Something we’ve learned in the last 3 seasons is once there dead there dead. We’ll never see anything about henry again either…
Calling it right now, the landlords sister from season2 and maybe even paco will come back and that will be the reason he gets caught, his past catches up to him and since he don’t kill kids, I think that will be his downfall in season4
Season 4 might be the final season and it's fitting if Joe finally gets caught or dies. If season 3 ended with Love dying then I can see a balance of Joe dying to wrap up the series.
Yeah honestly, I want Peach's pi investigator to follow Joe to paris... He was always kinda suspisious of Joe and he never really believed Beck's story... It may have been he consulted it with Dr. Nicky... Also, what about the Jar of Piss at the Salinger's?
@@ikeepscreamingbutgodwontan3132 but how, they can't do that cuz he's in a different country. So you can't arrest him when he would be wanted in America
We never find out what Love did with Delilah & Candance, there's a good chance she'll get the last laugh from beyond the grave by having set up a way to have Joe framed for the murders still.
I would have loved for Joe to break the cycle and manage to work things out with Love. Would be a great ending to the series if Love and Joe figured their problems out, got away with the murder and lived happily ever after. Maybe with a little flash forward to when Henry is old enough to go to college and Love and Joe killing somebody to get him into his dream college
I think a more dangerous person is someone who can smile on your face while plotting on how to kill you the entire time 😂 Love’s was blind rage which sadly happens everyday but Joe was an actual serial killer. He spent days and weeks plotting therefore you’d never know if it was you next. Not to mention he kills people for thinking he’s the psycho that he actually is
Season 2, Love mentions to Ellie that shed be a great chef in Paris. Something along those lines. Ellie is incredibly smart and knows everything about social media, news, what's in what's not, movies etc. No doubt she has been watching the news . I have a feeling she may return.. who knows in Paris. Where Joe is at now.
Goddamn it I liked Love! It was so sad to see her spiraling. But, she did just have a baby so she more than likely was dealing with postpartum depression or whatever on top of already being if not emotionally - mentally imbalanced. Anyways, it was entertaining seeing just how much she knew Joe. Understood his mind and processes. They were the same. Just a difference in experience levels. Nevertheless identical. Joe however progressively became less likable. That Goldberg charm hasn't been the same since season 1. Which I appreciate as the series shows more and more just how much of a *genuine monster* he is. It was an obvious end to a highly anticipated 3rd season. I'll miss Victoria's involvement. Love at least accepted her true self, while Joseph goes on to play pretend. Blaming others for why his life is so screwed up.
I’m not trying to disagree with what you said here, but I am curious. What about this season, made you like Joe less, I could be wrong, but this season was the nicest Joe has been, and only killed like one or two people.
I totally agree.. i think what makes Joe really disgusting in this season is he is a big ass hypocrite... he kept blaming LOVE for everything and always describes LOVE negatively e.g. how she is a monster for killing etc. While making himself sounds like a saint and making himself a victim all the time. Dude.. Joe is EQUALLY muderous as LOVE or even more.. Love might be impulsive and crazy but she kills to protect her family , for her loved ones. What about Joe? He kills to satisfy his screwed up desires so he could eliminate all the threats relating to his new targets. He spent the entire season , explaining how much he would never let Henry went through what he did and how much he loves his son. But ended the season by abandoning his son like what his mum to him? And abandon his son for what? To chase after another obssession of his ... which he would probably kill in S4... and yes he abandon Henry so Henry could have a better childhood... that's just a typical Joe's excuse to make himself sound like a saint....
@@ImaginaryJ-km7cr I liked Joe plenty in the beginning. But, his likeability for me took a dive towards the end of season 2. Once he met the real Love, and rejected her with such disgust it damn near mirrored Becks. Any part of me that believed in his better nature that could relate to him on some level disappeared. Joe had officially shut out reality and lost all self awareness. I can't root for someone who never wanted what they said they wanted. He's just addicted to beginnings and to the idea of love & family. But nothing will satisfy him. Season 3: Joe has everything he's talked about. A wife who loves him. A house with a white picket fence. A child to give a better life to. He's not even expected to be the bread winner. Yet he's not satisfied. He takes everything for granted. Blames, criticizes and gaslights Love. He's a hypocrite. Love killed for the same reasons he has killed, yet somehow she's worse? What we see this season isn't Joe being unproblematic, rational and calm. We are introduced to a seasoned murderer. Love & Joe don't mix. They are definition of toxic couple, but what makes me hate Joe is that he can't own up. Joseph is BS. Dude turned into a cold-calculated-narcissistic-delusional-habitual-coward incapable of protecting and loving. Because of him I'll never have the American psycho/ Monster Party Family *'YOU' season 4: A family that stays together, slays together!!* 💔 😭
I dont think love is dead. She isnt stupid and i personally feel like she escaped the fire some how. She became such a likeable character in season 3. And she was too good. They cannot let her go.
Between the two of them. Love was more dangerous , she does things without thinking and then think after which is very dangerous. Because in her anger she will kill you and regret later . while Joe is a killer who wants a reason to kill you and will not regret even after killing you because ,in his mind he has reason.
@@downersound0953 Yea! She kinda annoying 'cause everything she wanted just a family and Joe ruined everything! I belive the reason why she's annoying is Joe's old habbit
nah frl , i wish joe accepted her cuz nb else will accept him, plus shes gorgeous asf and willing to do anything for him n if he was the same w her den dey could be a good couple 🤷🏽♀️
such a good ending explained, i watched an “ending explained” by another channel but all it did was summarize the ending. this one included a lot of interesting analyses and references, really diving into the subtle intentions of the show creators.
One thing I have realized about this show is that it knows how to start and how to finish. In between is something that is dragged especially this season.
I disagree with people saying “Joe should’ve just been happy with Love”. This isn’t a Bonnie and Clyde type show, it’s about Joe fantasizing over unrealistic ideals. He will never be happy
Holy shit s3 was amazing. The mind games and the game of cat and mouse joe and love was having was amazing writing. And inside joe mind is even more crazier I knew shit was going down when they both hide there own keys in the cage from the start. Joe had to take down love
He probably knew something like this was gonna happen and stored money in a safe space somewhere out of town just in case. Jo was always scheming and thinking ahead so this doesn’t surprise me
It's pretty sad that Love was dead at the end of this season. Am I the only one who feels pitty for her? Like, even though both of them cheated at each other, Love always wanted to get back to Joe, meanwhile all he wants is to get rid of their marriage. If Love had listened to her inner voice and chosed Theo instead of Joe, things would have been so much brighter than this. She did try so hard to protect her family, even in the most ridiculous way, which is understandable due to what she has gone through as a child... idk, it's just kinda sad for them all.
Also, if she had accepted Joe's proposal to separate amicably, things would have been different. Bha is an impulsive and very possessive woman, too emotional, this is what led her to death.
I love this show & can't get enough of it. Such great acting (especially by Penn & Victoria) & storylines! I binge watched 3 seasons in 3 weeks and can't wait for season 4!
I wonder how Joe would explain to marriane when he finds her in Paris how he is actually Alive and faked his death and changed his identity. Wouldn’t that freak Marianne out and I hope Joe finally gets his karma and goes to jail
I REALLY hope old characters with untied ends are key to the story in season 4, this is really the only way to correctly and beautifully end the show, and most likely become a fan favorite season if done right. I was VERY disappointed that this season, unlike season 2, barely acknowledged Joe's past actions. The previous 2 seasons don't play any significant role in the storyline or even script. The whole essence of this show is the insanity of it, Joe does the same thing over and over again expecting different results, the literal definition of insanity. The pattern is key to making the story an actual story rather than 4 stand-alone murder tales. There are so many suitable characters that could return to tie the entirety of the show together: Theo/ Matthew, Ellie, the PI from season 1, this 'half brother' even. All of these characters have been left alive with just enough information that collectively they could actually pin him for every single murder. Whichever character is revived should be shown contacting the other candidates listed previously in addition to Dr. Nicky, Peach's suspicious family, Paco, Matthew, Dottie Quinn, Marieanne, and most importantly JOE'S FAMILY! We could watch this character "stalking" Joe for a change, keeping trinkets of him for evidence, and digging around HIS past & personal life like we have seen Joe do to all his love interest victims. Tracking down his mother, half brother, and even the friend at the halfway house. This would be a super interesting insight to see how Joe would respond to being on the receiving end of his abusive behavior. To have his trama right in front of his face. The control dynamic would shift for the first time, which control was a big theme in the past 2 seasons. To see an uncalculated side of Joe and really demolish and believe left that he has mostly "pure intentions" for killing. This season if done right could and rightfully should be the last season, think breaking bad- you don't ruin a stellar storyline to pump out more seasons when in the end the 4-5 season well-written shows are ALWAYS more beloved and rewatched by fans than dragged out repetitive shows (cough cough walking dead). I really hope they do not try to pop out more the 5 seasons total and delay the large sum of karma joe has nipping at his ankles at this point in the story. Oh and there is one last element I would LOVE to see is at the end of season 4, like in previous seasons, we listen to snippets of a memoir being narrated over clips of events following the aftermath of Joe's actions. At the end of season 4, after the revived character has either killed or locked Joe up, we hear a unfamiliar adult male voice narrating a section of a book that is describing some all-over metaphor or poetic lesson that should be learned from the events of the story. While listening to this narration we see an outline (not yet the face) of the author who is reading from what seems to be his new book on a book tour. As the camera zooms out further we recognize the location as the book store from season one, then the clip cuts ( we are still listening to the author throughout this all) and the figure is in the same position but the background is different, he is now reading at the LA restaurant/ book store from season 2, then cut to the library in season 3. At the end of the narration, the camera moves to an angle to reveal the author's face, we see a man with a very similar resemblance to Joe himself and around a similar age. On the cover of the book he is holding, and on the book tour posters behind him, we read the name "Henry Ferguson" (Dante's last name). The entire story is connected through books and writing. From the first season to the last. Joe's son in the end only took one thing away from Joe and it was the love of books and writing. Since this is how Henry had to cope with being abandoned by his father as a baby.
Omg, same. Almost the entire season was focused on Joe bailing Love out, and helping her clean up her impulsive messes. I mean, neither of them were perfect by ANY means, but Love couldn't seem to grasp that it wasn't all Joe's fault, or take responsibility for *her* actions too. Drove me crazy.
Maybe because he cheated twice and stalked two women?? And never accepted her for who she was and instead manipulated her into making her believe they were on good terms while he was outside doing the most with his boss and plotting on how to take down her ex-husband to run away with Marianne and take Henry away from her to create a new family?? Everything love did was out of passion to protect and persevere her family. She uprooted her life to be with Joe. He married her just to go along with the fairytale and that's not fair. Joe couldn't control himself from idealizing the perfect woman when she was trying her best. besides Theo of course. Then again Joe emotional neglected Love, and Theo was the only one in the whole town that understood her emotionally.
I think there was an interesting concept to Love's character they explored this season where she devloped into believing she never makes mistakes and is always in the right. She blamed Dottie for evrything and unleashing the monster in her by being a shit mom, she believed she was the better parent for Henry despite clear instability, she didn't ciunt her affair with Theo to be a betrayal and so on. This season as we got to see more of her character I found that she was someone who can never truly accept or admit to the ugly side of theirself, much like Joe. Both her and Joe have justifications for their immoral actions - his always plays out for 'love' and hers seemed to play out as 'protecting' and 'preserving' those she loved- I found the parallels interesting as they really were the perfect match.
@@empressbryanna3673 am sure if theo found out she kills people he would have gone, she doesnt love theo, she is looking for a person to fix and theo fits that
Season 1 had Beck who was honest, but naive to how toxic, manipulative and downright unhinged someone can get. And therefore became his victim. Season 2 had Love who was his mirror and understood his fantasy (someone he could "save" like an honorable knight) and actively manipulated things to fulfill that image (and in the end when it all came crashing down Joe was shocked and repulsed, but ultimately trapped by the promess of an idilic family) Season 3 both Joe and Love slowly realize that the fantasy they crave is not real (or not real most of the time) and search for escapism with other people (also it gets harder to make your murders justifiable when you live with your mirror image) I would like Season 4 to have someone who actively rejects a "fairytail" ending, "perfect family" or "the one" fantasies that Love and Joe had. Someone who is damaged but won't let themselves be put in the "damsel in distress" box Joe puts women into so he can save them.
tbh the second season has got to be my favorite. This one felt like it was dragging and didn't keep me as hooked. Plus, the ending was freaking stupid.
i liked this season a lot but i hated the hacking family bullshit towards the end. Atleast the ending was fine and hopefully joe gets what he deserves.
one thing i was not expecting that sheery and carry did not kill each other o m g! they literally fight back in the end and came out together however thy look too crazy and no brain types
joe wasn’t gonna kill love, he was prepared to walk away with a co-parenting relationship for Henry but was prepared in the event Love tried to kill him which she did. while pre-meditated, he acted in self defense
It’s bitter sweet love on gon be on here nomore but I do hope she come back as like a vision or something freaking joe tf out like how it was with beck but I hope they change his story up a little for 4 because we know what’s gonna happen he’s gonna end up killing merrine because she’s not gonna love him .. but idk because she said she was happy her ex was dead so idk he might finally get caught cause what happen to peaches parents lookin into her murder? Idk how this might go there’s so many possibilities it was a great season in my opinion best one yet 💯
Joe wanted to stop killing and live a simple life. Love was insecure and impulsive with her killing. They were both mirror images of each other. Also her behavior is indicative of parenting specifically from the mother's toxicity. Also Joe knew Love would try to kill him hence the contingencies he took. He outsmarted her.
Joe pulled a joe literally two seconds after moving to the suburbs. Then once his neighbour was dead he fell for yet ANOTHER woman! The dudes a sociopathic gaslighter.
They are both as bad as each other 😂 But personally I think Joe should have died with Love in the fire since that was be a crazy ending. But now there’s rumours of being a S4 👀
Joe will never stop killing. He wants to stop cause he believes he will reach that happy ending that doesn’t exist. Every time that he finds out that the girl he’s obsessed with is not perfect like in his head and will never accept who he truly is (the only one that would accept him was love) he will always fall out of obsession with them and will kill again. He doesn’t accept his sick and that’s the real problem.
After this season, the theme is going to become old. Maybe what could be different is Joe confronting his mother if she’s still alive. She’s the main reason of Joe’s obsessions. Maybe confronting her and realizing what she did to him was wrong after seeing how she is could possibly open his eyes on why he has his fantasies. Possibly meeting his half brother as well.
@@bre9708 while she deserting him just to start another family. I feel him getting a chance to see her in season 4 would allow him to understand the type of person she always was and not what he thought of her. Probably that can allow him to break his obsession mindset
It was a good season, but I was sad that love died because even though she was crazy she was a good mom. And poor Henry that had to be given away. Didn't get a chance to grow up with his real parents.
Good season. The fact I felt bad for Joe due to my dislike for Love....those two actor/actress were phenomenal. But not really caring for a fourth season.
Yeah I feel like 2 seasons or maybe even this as the last season would've been best. If they wrap up next season well with Joe's consequences catching up to him, then I'll be satisfied
I enjoyed the season. A few thoughts Id bounce off you guys, Joe cannot love love because she's too perfect for him. He hates the thing they share in common, that they are murderers. Joe is all about fantasy vs reality. He makes up a fantasy person based off his stalking, then as he actually gets to know them, it ruins it for him. Learning love was the same as him, in all the ways he doesn't like himself was the end of it. Love accept who she was, and who Joe was. But Joe couldn't accept either. He always says he has done bad things for the right person. That's barely an acknowledgment. Its like a sorry with a but. The first few episodes their was some debate over the name of the child, which seemly dropped of. I think it would have been some growth for either Joe to call him Forty to help love, or Love to declare him as Henry to show moving on.
There’s a couple things I’m thinking about for season 4. At the end of season 3 they briefly show in a flashback that he has a half brother named Jacob. I also can’t shake that maybe Beck is still alive. The only “dead” character who’s body isn’t shown.
Not confirmed as last, it might be. I think it depends on how popular the show remains. But I think the story can continue for more if Netflix want to keep it going.
This season confirm my speculations from last seaosn and it all blew up in my face. I still prefer second season as felt more relatable to the cast than season 3.
I knew Love was gonna die after she killed the neighbor. She was way to impulsive and unpredictable. Which is why this season had me on the edge of my seat. I hope there’ll be Emmy nominations after this.
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I’m so mad that love died I loved her so much bruuuuh
I get how Love had to go. But I still wish he had not have to kill her. Love represented anyone who could go toe to toe with Joe. The rest were all helpless victims and easy prey. I am as tired about the helpless female victim trope as much as the danzle in distress trope. Love made it enjoyable to watch how she for a while had a grip on the situation and made Joe see who he was by showing him that she was the face of the same coin. They didn't have to kill her, maybe they could of had Joe frame her or just run away.
@@Jojo-jz7qw I don't think she died 🙃
You guys are amazing I'm a new subscriber ❤️😆 Also I'm glad he killed Love she was fucking it up for him causing more issues he actually calmed down on his urge to kill but she caused problems for him to pick up the pieces for her. I don't know why but I'm glad how Joe survived even though he's a crazy murderer he's amazing and love the actor 😁
It was intense and Joe will be caught
this season literally had me screaming at love through the screen. her impulsiveness was so annoying and literally caused nearly all the issues that happened in the show. i dont know if i wanted her to die tho, that still made me a bit sad lmao.
Lol right. She was so annoying. Her being dead is still unreal to me. Joe was so over her from he found out she was just like him. Him planning to run away was so funny lol
Love was my fav character… yes her impulsiveness this season honestly kind of ruined the amazing character she was in season 2… however i still was honestly rooting for her to kill joe and escape with henry……
Wat abt sherry😤.she pissed me off the the whole season
@@dariusgoran2207 sherry was amazing throughout the season she was mean but she rocked that rudeness! My problem is why does nobody have alarms or cameras in their homes or on the streets?
They caught joe and the Natalie giving coffee to each other but not him dragging around bodies.
She was annoying but we’re not going to act like joe wasn’t fucking up too. Always chasing after someone else and sabotaging his own marriage. Chased after Natalie, then chased after Marianne. They were both trash.
Love’s last words were perfect.. because they really are perfect for each other. I was hoping they would both be exposed for the psychotic couple they are, like a Bonnie and Clyde love story, but Joe takes the win once again. This season was so chaotic that I forgot all about Ellie.
You have to remember that even though joe and love are the reason for Ellie being in the situation she’s in that them being narcissistic psychos means that they ultimately only care about themselves and Ellie was inevitably just collateral damage. Joe sent her money not for her benefit but for his in the sense that it made him feel like he was being a good person by helping her. He forgot about her because at the end of the day Joe is only out for himself and his actions only benefit himself and his ego. Once he found marienne he moved on to “helping” her because he gets off on being a savior and forgot about Ellie because he no longer needed those deeds to feed his ego.
@UCWL9iZDphj-bNz5oj16cwhA BROO STFU, I'm sorry but shut the fuck up. Joe is a psychopath he isn't narcissistic. If he was he wouldn't try to better himself for Love. If he was he wouldn't kill for them. If he was he wouldn't have let Love live. Your honestly stupid, and I'm sorry for calling you names but everyone seems to not know what a narcissist is? And you really think Joe gave her money to just make her feel good? Dude did we watch the same episode where he was bonding with her and wanted to keep her safe, wanted her to have a good life and follow her dreams. Joe is an obsessive physchopath who doesn't know how to love. If he was a narcissistic he wouldn't be doin all of this for Henry, Bro he even gave Love one of the best decisions which was coparent. Love was the narcissist, she took the life of Delilah while Joe wanted to let her go. She's the one who acted on pulse and just killed just rash, she's the one who would blame and twist Joe's words to make him look like the bad guy. Joe was only prepared if she was gonna kill him, never intended in killing her at all.
@@Jessfi1291 Joe had his problems but use the right words, HE IS NOT A NARCISSIST
They weren't though Love killed the woman he wanted to spare. If she hadn't done that they would've been a perfect couple
@@Jessfi1291 and also Love is the one who wanted to kill him cmon now, Love fits ur description of a narcissist. Joe would actually try and change. Even though he progresses and then ruins it completely he really tries to be better.
Up to this point, Love has been Joe’s only “equal” opponent. I’m sorry to see her go even though she became such an unlikable character in Season 3. She had an uncanny knowledge of Joe’s thought processes and motives and was extremely triggered by his manipulations. I’m hoping that Joe pays for his crimes in Season 4.... he’s such a scary and smug predator. Really liked this review!!!
Series will only end with joe's death.
Hope it never happens 😅
@@Expert411 I agree Joe is going to die, but wouldn’t it be ironic if Henry grew up to have the predator gene from both of his parents... ? That baby has seen an awful lot 😁
I don't think " She had an uncanny knowledge of Joe’s thought process and motives " rathar an impulsive serial killer given the fact that he outsmarted her at the end, so she didn't really know him imo, she just happens to be obsessive & possessive over her loved ones like Joe in some way, even tho I woud say she was worse because she'd kill for the slightest threat she feels, unlike Joe, so I don't think she was his "equal" opponent
@@meriem0710 well true, but I would say the most equal, and one might argue, his toughest opponent yet.
@@Expert411 lmao agreed
Victoria Pedretti’s acting is amazing she’s so talented
this season was crazy ngl
IKR! Although have there been any that aren't..?
True!
You think?
yeah I believe crazy is the perfect word
The use of Taylor Swift's exile was perfect for the final Joe and Love scene, loved it. Everyone mentions how unlikeable they found Love but I really like her and I'm sick of Joe. Would've been happy if he was the one to die and s4 was centred around her instead. Not sure why everyone makes excuses for Joe all the time yet Love gets judgement. No, he wasn't trying to be a better person. He's the same old psycho who is always obsessed with a shiny new toy. Hope Love survived the fire and hope there's a good change up for s4 to keep it fresh.
I think because they give Joe's rough childhood story and no real glimpse into Love's. Yes we know her parents suck but it never came to the point where it would be like yes i understand how that can create a sociopath.
@@pierinacamarena2507 agreed... i feel like every "bad guy" who has a rough or sad background/childhood story would made people sympathize more cause we see how that person become.
But Love also had did some screwed up thing. If anything, I’m surprised that not more people are stating on how both of them are bad. Unless you are saying that you just like Love’s character better.
Right?? I got more and more frustrated with him. He doesn't see that she's JUST like him and he judges get for it! He doesn't recognize his patterns he repeats over and over and he's always wrong about the girl! He thinks she's perfect and just kills a ton of people for her, and eventually her!! Ugghhh Love pls get your revenge. I love her craziness tbh, if I'm gonna have a serial killer protagonist I want her!
Exactly
I honestly thought it was Obvious love killed her husband.. i didn't see it as a twist at all lol
Same, I thought that it was going to end up that Loves mum killed the husband for some reason.
that wasn't the twist though.
that was not the twist...
Im surprised it was accidental than intentional. She only ment to paralyze her former husband "temporarily"
Really? How lol they said he got cancer and died and u just saw through that? LOL
S1: Joe bitches about New York snobs.
S2: Joe bitches about LA Hipsters.
S3: Joe bitches about Suburban Socialite culture.
I find it interesting that you point out how Paris keeps getting brought up as the idealised “city of choice” to run away to throughout the series. I’m wondering if this is gonna set up Joe becoming disillusioned and bitching about Paris living as well, since he clearly has this tendency to never be happy even when presented with something that would be considered a dream or a fairytale ending.
True, he might experience Paris Syndrome as well haha
(In case you haven't heard of the term)
"Paris syndrome is a sense of disappointment exhibited by some individuals when visiting Paris, who feel that the city was not what they had expected. The condition is commonly viewed as a severe form of culture shock."
Yep my thoughts exactly.
@@Szystedt It kinda reminds me of stories immigrants use to tell about America. Some immigrants use to believe America's street's were paved with gold.
@@TheChannelJ1 Wow hah, I know a part of Swedish history is about many immigrating, saving up for and dreaming about going to America, since they apparantly would give away plots of land, and it felt like an opportunity to get rich and such, IIRC. But, streets paved with gold? Damn, that sure is exaggerated hah, imagine their disappointment lol
Joe thinks he is better than everyone and above every aspect of popular culture, so I sure he will find people to hate in Paris
I loved season 3. They managed to keep the Quality of the show up. This season was probably their best season yet
Definitely was the worst season so far
@@peterpauloreilly4993 ???????
I THINK I FOUND MY BEST FRIEND! YES! best season yet! it made S1 a filler prequel.
Ellie better return in season 4. They just had one throw away line about her
I don't want her to come back just to die though. That would suck!
I think she will be and will be talking about her in my next video.
@@FlicksAndTheCity Joe is in Paris. Well I mean “NICK” Ellie is also in Paris?
@@amywonderland9297 yeah i'd hate if they killed her, I started watching the show for her lmfao
Yeah reason why she wasnt in this season cus her schedule was busy. As she was busy filming for new scream movie coming out next year
Love deserved better. She was really trying to make it work with Joe. And while she did cheat, at least she felt bad about it. Joe literally dropped her like a hot potato in his mind, after they went through all that therapy to become a team. I guess im upset bc Love wasnt a victim but a protagonist. I would have like it much better if they had really worked together to clean up their respective messes. Joe has no loyalty!!
Absolutely, you could feel sorry for Love at the end despite the terrible things she'd done because Joe had really treated her so terribly.
The difference is that Joe never really loved Love. She was only alive because of the baby. Joe tried to work it out , but in the end he had to admit to himself that he could never love her.
Love is a murderer and a cheater!!! She’s a psychopath who only thinks about killing. Joe is trying to be good and he needed to protect his baby from Love. Joe deserves someone good.
@@OpTicLacolas Love and Joe are both TERRIBLE people. Neither one of them deserves someone GOOD, they both should have been gone to prison, ngl its kinda sad that love had to die because they both were equally unhinged butJoe gets away with everything he does while she has to die.
@@OpTicLacolas wtfff???? Joe doesn't deserve better! Why do you feel sorry for a fucking phyco?? He's never gonna stop because he keeps chaising broken girls to fix, and when he gets bored, finds himself a new one and gets rid of the old one and so the pattern continues... And it always will until he gets caught!
I think it's funny that every time he kidnapped someone or killed he would always take the phone and unlock it with face recognition, but he never changed his own phone "maybe because he never thought that could happen to him" so when love paralyzed him she did the exact same thing he did to others, its funny because you would think he wouldn't use face recognition after knowing how dangerous it is
I will miss Victoria Pedretti as Love Quinn. Goodbye You.
Big Yes
Victoria Pedretti's characters just can't have a happy ending
Anyone thinks that this season was way more brutal and mature than season 1 and 2? Cause I was left with big scars from this. At the beginning I was just thinking "aww, look how sweet are Love, Joe and little Henry together, like a family!" and then it got darker like "You" always does and the murderers started, so msny this time.
I thought we knew everything about Joe's childhood but seeing so many new flashbacks in this season just made a lot of sense, made me think we knew nothing about Joe, even though we listened to his inner monologue every time. The reason he was so afraid of being abandoned, the reason he's killing every bad person. I wish we knew what happened to his mom though cuz at this point I wouldn't be suprise to find that Joe killed her and her new son. And when the fu*k is Joe gonna learm that things ARE actually gonna be the same everytime?!
So many twisted news this season too. I really didn't wanna believe Love killed James. I mean, they seemed so happy, he was such a good man and Love didn't kill people she loves... But that changed in this season, my whole perspective changed. Now I can't stop wondering who is crazier, Joe or Love?
At least, in the end Joe realized he's gotta save Henry from him and he left him with a beautiful family where he knew he'd be loved. Remains to be seen if Joe will find Marianne in Paris or find another obsession and continue it all over... Though, I'd like him to have a stalker of himself, a person who became obsessed with him the same way he does, a manipulative person who can show him how obsessive and sick he is. Now, the story of Nick will begin, soon.... :)
Love was kinda like the Joe stalker, who was obsessed with him. I dont know who Nick is, so if you're referring the book then imma just keep quiet coz ive never had the chance to read it
@@IzzyLWHDF Joe adopts the name Nick at the end in Paris
@@joteeca oh, shit. My bad
They they move the story like a serial. I fucking hate it.
Love is way worse and selfish
Who else realized the reason Joe goed by ‘Nick’ at the end was a link to Nick Carraway from The Great Gatsby?
Ah, that's a nice spot!
Ah
I came to think of one thing. Joe says in the last episode of season three that they tested the DNA in his toes and in season one, he forgot a jar of urine in Peach Salinger's house and her family's PI told Joe that they tested it but got no results, but now that they have his DNA from his toes they can see that the DNA from his toes and the jar of urine matches and they will understand that he was the one killing Peach.
Also, Peach's investigator was always kinda suspisious of Joe and he never really believed in Beck's death story
@@ikeepscreamingbutgodwontan3132 yeah exatcly
But also
The public thinks he's dead.
So even if they did come to that conclusion, they can't do much about it now.
@@ryantalley5284 yes I know, but someone wiil recognize him because he didn’t changed his looks
@@nannabengtsson02 because literally any of the characters we've ever seen on the show would have any business in Paris?
i still want to know what happened to Delilah’s and Candace’s bodies.
The Quinn family was know to sort any mess their kids created! Could have been Love hired some people to do that for her the way they handled the nanny’s body that love killed when she was young!
@@carriewambui98 true. i just want to know exactly what happened like where are they buried or what did they actually do to the bodies. just some form of closure because i really liked both of them :)
@@liamstatham3362 dude that won't solve nothing we literally saw them die, does a funeral have to be more closure for you 😂
Maybe Love also took adrenaline bc she always seemed to know what Joe was thinking and predicted he’d try to kill her. She just let him think she’s dead for now
Nah she's dead .. he gave her a massive amount which is how she killed her 1st husband.. she said she go the dose wrong so she was letting Joe's dose sep through the skin... Then he of course kept tabs to make sure his plan worked and says she died and everyone bought the story and how his son was given to the gay couple.. he knows to keep tabs but wolfsbane is extremely poisonous so the amount he gave her would have definitely killed her.
I'm just glad Joe let Theo live. I liked that kid. lol
Same here
Same, I was praying for him.
@@preciouswah3503 even though they are both insane,joe is more merciful,he seems to have a soft spot for children.
I found Theo annoying- but he grew on me in the end
Me too, i felt bad for him. He fell in love with Love and she betrayed him by trying to kill hom
Gonna miss love. And the placement of the VPN sponsor was golden
Yes will miss her so much! Thank you.
I hope she comes back.
@@choppa5220 nah shes gone for good. Unless they bring Victoria back for flashbacks etc
Something we’ve learned in the last 3 seasons is once there dead there dead. We’ll never see anything about henry again either…
Except Candice...
@@emmawalker5859 really? Why not?
Who else wants Love to still be alive in season 4? Im so mad that they had to kill her like that.
That bish was too crazy. Scared tf out of me
Calling it right now, the landlords sister from season2 and maybe even paco will come back and that will be the reason he gets caught, his past catches up to him and since he don’t kill kids, I think that will be his downfall in season4
Maybe but maybe not.. ever since he got a new identity no one will be able to say “joe Goldberg did this” anymore
Defo, and will be discussing that in my next video.
Maybe Paco will kill Joe
Yes totally forgot about her! Theo will somehow be involved too I think
He’s apparently dead. How would Ellie find him?
Season 4 might be the final season and it's fitting if Joe finally gets caught or dies. If season 3 ended with Love dying then I can see a balance of Joe dying to wrap up the series.
Yeah honestly, I want Peach's pi investigator to follow Joe to paris... He was always kinda suspisious of Joe and he never really believed Beck's story... It may have been he consulted it with Dr. Nicky... Also, what about the Jar of Piss at the Salinger's?
F no, he needs help I'd rather him go to jail and die but let's not act like he wasn't human though. Love fucked his life up.
@@ikeepscreamingbutgodwontan3132 but how, they can't do that cuz he's in a different country. So you can't arrest him when he would be wanted in America
@@downersound0953 I said his pi investigator would be following him
@@ikeepscreamingbutgodwontan3132 you can't follow him in a different country, mind u he has a fake ID and u can't track him
Watched the whole season in 1 day, couldn’t stop watching !
Quality breakdowns, always. This season was so much fun to watch.
Thanks so much. Yes an absolutely crazy, but of course very entertaining season.
We never find out what Love did with Delilah & Candance, there's a good chance she'll get the last laugh from beyond the grave by having set up a way to have Joe framed for the murders still.
Joe is officially dead, his DNA (toes) were found on the cre scene. They can pin it on him but nobody will chase after him.
This is brought up in their new video
Love kept causing problems this season and I honestly was not surprised for how things ended
Joe kinda started it with the whole creeping on Natlie thing imo.
When Natalie died the first episode, I knew it was going to be an amazing season.
I would have loved for Joe to break the cycle and manage to work things out with Love. Would be a great ending to the series if Love and Joe figured their problems out, got away with the murder and lived happily ever after. Maybe with a little flash forward to when Henry is old enough to go to college and Love and Joe killing somebody to get him into his dream college
That would teach a lesson that killers deserve happy endings
Same 😭 I know it fcked up but I would have love to see they got help and changed their ways for good and lived happily ever after
I think a more dangerous person is someone who can smile on your face while plotting on how to kill you the entire time 😂 Love’s was blind rage which sadly happens everyday but Joe was an actual serial killer. He spent days and weeks plotting therefore you’d never know if it was you next. Not to mention he kills people for thinking he’s the psycho that he actually is
S4 plot- Joe stalks Emily in Paris! 🤣
Hell no
@@ernesto.carloz no it should happen for real
Who is Emily?
@@danielwanger5919 yeah, who is Emily? Lol
Season 2, Love mentions to Ellie that shed be a great chef in Paris. Something along those lines. Ellie is incredibly smart and knows everything about social media, news, what's in what's not, movies etc. No doubt she has been watching the news . I have a feeling she may return.. who knows in Paris. Where Joe is at now.
Victoria Pedretti got another ending she is known for. She is always a scene stealer. Loved Love.
Goddamn it I liked Love! It was so sad to see her spiraling. But, she did just have a baby so she more than likely was dealing with postpartum depression or whatever on top of already being if not emotionally - mentally imbalanced. Anyways, it was entertaining seeing just how much she knew Joe. Understood his mind and processes. They were the same. Just a difference in experience levels. Nevertheless identical. Joe however progressively became less likable. That Goldberg charm hasn't been the same since season 1. Which I appreciate as the series shows more and more just how much of a *genuine monster* he is.
It was an obvious end to a highly anticipated 3rd season. I'll miss Victoria's involvement. Love at least accepted her true self, while Joseph goes on to play pretend. Blaming others for why his life is so screwed up.
I’m not trying to disagree with what you said here, but I am curious. What about this season, made you like Joe less, I could be wrong, but this season was the nicest Joe has been, and only killed like one or two people.
I totally agree.. i think what makes Joe really disgusting in this season is he is a big ass hypocrite... he kept blaming LOVE for everything and always describes LOVE negatively e.g. how she is a monster for killing etc. While making himself sounds like a saint and making himself a victim all the time. Dude.. Joe is EQUALLY muderous as LOVE or even more..
Love might be impulsive and crazy but she kills to protect her family , for her loved ones. What about Joe? He kills to satisfy his screwed up desires so he could eliminate all the threats relating to his new targets.
He spent the entire season , explaining how much he would never let Henry went through what he did and how much he loves his son. But ended the season by abandoning his son like what his mum to him? And abandon his son for what? To chase after another obssession of his ... which he would probably kill in S4... and yes he abandon Henry so Henry could have a better childhood... that's just a typical Joe's excuse to make himself sound like a saint....
@@ImaginaryJ-km7cr I liked Joe plenty in the beginning. But, his likeability for me took a dive towards the end of season 2. Once he met the real Love, and rejected her with such disgust it damn near mirrored Becks. Any part of me that believed in his better nature that could relate to him on some level disappeared. Joe had officially shut out reality and lost all self awareness. I can't root for someone who never wanted what they said they wanted. He's just addicted to beginnings and to the idea of love & family. But nothing will satisfy him.
Season 3: Joe has everything he's talked about. A wife who loves him. A house with a white picket fence. A child to give a better life to. He's not even expected to be the bread winner. Yet he's not satisfied. He takes everything for granted. Blames, criticizes and gaslights Love. He's a hypocrite. Love killed for the same reasons he has killed, yet somehow she's worse? What we see this season isn't Joe being unproblematic, rational and calm. We are introduced to a seasoned murderer. Love & Joe don't mix. They are definition of toxic couple, but what makes me hate Joe is that he can't own up. Joseph is BS. Dude turned into a cold-calculated-narcissistic-delusional-habitual-coward incapable of protecting and loving. Because of him I'll never have the American psycho/ Monster Party Family *'YOU' season 4: A family that stays together, slays together!!* 💔 😭
@@juppiecookies you said it best!! 👏🏾
@@harshcry omg.. that's how i feel too! For season 2 too!! Glad to know other ppl felt exactly the same way as i did too!
I have a hunch that love isn’t dead . They will say her body was never recovered in the fire, I hope she goes after joe
yea i think theo's father save Love 🥰
@@jolomrtnz_6408 love killed his wife why would he
@@ShadowMoon96 yea but i hope Love still survive 😭
Omg i hope soo cuz i hated joe alot in the last ep i dont want love to die😭💔
How?
I dont think love is dead. She isnt stupid and i personally feel like she escaped the fire some how. She became such a likeable character in season 3. And she was too good. They cannot let her go.
Between the two of them. Love was more dangerous , she does things without thinking and then think after which is very dangerous. Because in her anger she will kill you and regret later . while Joe is a killer who wants a reason to kill you and will not regret even after killing you because ,in his mind he has reason.
On every episode I was like “love wtf” I am going to miss her.
I need Love back!!!😢She is my favourite character in this show🤧
Yeaa annoying asf
Lool..same
@@anuoluwapoobipehin4894 😘
@@downersound0953 Yea! She kinda annoying 'cause everything she wanted just a family and Joe ruined everything! I belive the reason why she's annoying is Joe's old habbit
nah frl , i wish joe accepted her cuz nb else will accept him, plus shes gorgeous asf and willing to do anything for him n if he was the same w her den dey could be a good couple 🤷🏽♀️
I *really* they bring *Love* back in season 4. Joe and Love’s toxic relationship is so addicting.
such a good ending explained, i watched an “ending explained” by another channel but all it did was summarize the ending. this one included a lot of interesting analyses and references, really diving into the subtle intentions of the show creators.
One thing I have realized about this show is that it knows how to start and how to finish. In between is something that is dragged especially this season.
I disagree with people saying “Joe should’ve just been happy with Love”. This isn’t a Bonnie and Clyde type show, it’s about Joe fantasizing over unrealistic ideals. He will never be happy
S4 has to be the last season, maybe Joe gets caught this time 😭
na i think it'll be like tvd with 7 ish seasons
I think maybe caught, but still might not be last season!
Will be talking about all this in my next video!
Yeah, he cant keep getting away with this but then again, i'd like to see more than 4 seasons.
And die cuz he killed love😂😂💔
show has actually gotten better with each season
Well, now we definitely know who will be the next victim in S4… *EMILY* in Paris
Gabriel would kick Joe’s ass plssss 😭😭
Nice one hahah
Imma miss love. She is truly beautiful
She killed her ex husband bro😂
@@J23_ she killed 3 more women and a man after that. Lmao and killed a girl when she was young. A whole ass beautiful serial killer
Holy shit s3 was amazing. The mind games and the game of cat and mouse joe and love was having was amazing writing. And inside joe mind is even more crazier I knew shit was going down when they both hide there own keys in the cage from the start. Joe had to take down love
how has he travelled to Paris? the money, passport, so many loose ends
Love comes from a rich family.
@@joshburns4611 yeah but not joe
We all know what Joe is capable of doing, im sure he would've found a way to get everything needed, even if not legal.
He probably knew something like this was gonna happen and stored money in a safe space somewhere out of town just in case. Jo was always scheming and thinking ahead so this doesn’t surprise me
@@mariemadlenek ikr
Great breakdown of the season and I can say that the segue to the VPN sponsor is amazing
Thank you and glad you enjoyed it!
It's pretty sad that Love was dead at the end of this season. Am I the only one who feels pitty for her? Like, even though both of them cheated at each other, Love always wanted to get back to Joe, meanwhile all he wants is to get rid of their marriage. If Love had listened to her inner voice and chosed Theo instead of Joe, things would have been so much brighter than this. She did try so hard to protect her family, even in the most ridiculous way, which is understandable due to what she has gone through as a child... idk, it's just kinda sad for them all.
Also, if she had accepted Joe's proposal to separate amicably, things would have been different. Bha is an impulsive and very possessive woman, too emotional, this is what led her to death.
Joe felt like the Joker in the end. Love it!
I loved their love story and her relationship with her brother. She seemed like a very different character after Forty passing.
That must have been the smoothest segway into a Nord VPN ad
Thank you!
What if Love comes back in season 4. If Candice did it, Love is more than capable of doing so too
I love this show & can't get enough of it. Such great acting (especially by Penn & Victoria) & storylines! I binge watched 3 seasons in 3 weeks and can't wait for season 4!
Joe was supposed to be in *How to get away with murder*
My heart stopped so many time while watching this season 🤣
I wonder how Joe would explain to marriane when he finds her in Paris how he is actually Alive and faked his death and changed his identity. Wouldn’t that freak Marianne out and I hope Joe finally gets his karma and goes to jail
I REALLY hope old characters with untied ends are key to the story in season 4, this is really the only way to correctly and beautifully end the show, and most likely become a fan favorite season if done right. I was VERY disappointed that this season, unlike season 2, barely acknowledged Joe's past actions. The previous 2 seasons don't play any significant role in the storyline or even script. The whole essence of this show is the insanity of it, Joe does the same thing over and over again expecting different results, the literal definition of insanity. The pattern is key to making the story an actual story rather than 4 stand-alone murder tales. There are so many suitable characters that could return to tie the entirety of the show together: Theo/ Matthew, Ellie, the PI from season 1, this 'half brother' even. All of these characters have been left alive with just enough information that collectively they could actually pin him for every single murder. Whichever character is revived should be shown contacting the other candidates listed previously in addition to Dr. Nicky, Peach's suspicious family, Paco, Matthew, Dottie Quinn, Marieanne, and most importantly JOE'S FAMILY! We could watch this character "stalking" Joe for a change, keeping trinkets of him for evidence, and digging around HIS past & personal life like we have seen Joe do to all his love interest victims. Tracking down his mother, half brother, and even the friend at the halfway house. This would be a super interesting insight to see how Joe would respond to being on the receiving end of his abusive behavior. To have his trama right in front of his face. The control dynamic would shift for the first time, which control was a big theme in the past 2 seasons. To see an uncalculated side of Joe and really demolish and believe left that he has mostly "pure intentions" for killing. This season if done right could and rightfully should be the last season, think breaking bad- you don't ruin a stellar storyline to pump out more seasons when in the end the 4-5 season well-written shows are ALWAYS more beloved and rewatched by fans than dragged out repetitive shows (cough cough walking dead). I really hope they do not try to pop out more the 5 seasons total and delay the large sum of karma joe has nipping at his ankles at this point in the story. Oh and there is one last element I would LOVE to see is at the end of season 4, like in previous seasons, we listen to snippets of a memoir being narrated over clips of events following the aftermath of Joe's actions. At the end of season 4, after the revived character has either killed or locked Joe up, we hear a unfamiliar adult male voice narrating a section of a book that is describing some all-over metaphor or poetic lesson that should be learned from the events of the story. While listening to this narration we see an outline (not yet the face) of the author who is reading from what seems to be his new book on a book tour. As the camera zooms out further we recognize the location as the book store from season one, then the clip cuts ( we are still listening to the author throughout this all) and the figure is in the same position but the background is different, he is now reading at the LA restaurant/ book store from season 2, then cut to the library in season 3. At the end of the narration, the camera moves to an angle to reveal the author's face, we see a man with a very similar resemblance to Joe himself and around a similar age. On the cover of the book he is holding, and on the book tour posters behind him, we read the name "Henry Ferguson" (Dante's last name). The entire story is connected through books and writing. From the first season to the last. Joe's son in the end only took one thing away from Joe and it was the love of books and writing. Since this is how Henry had to cope with being abandoned by his father as a baby.
My goodness this is literally genius, especially the various links with books at the end! You need to write to the show writers asap 😂👍🏾
WOW this is literally genius, especially the various links with books at the end! You should write to the show writers asap 😂👍🏾
I'm so pissed! Love was perfect for him!
I was sitting there the entire time wondering as to how exactly Love could blame Joe for their marriage failing.
Omg, same. Almost the entire season was focused on Joe bailing Love out, and helping her clean up her impulsive messes. I mean, neither of them were perfect by ANY means, but Love couldn't seem to grasp that it wasn't all Joe's fault, or take responsibility for *her* actions too. Drove me crazy.
Maybe because he cheated twice and stalked two women?? And never accepted her for who she was and instead manipulated her into making her believe they were on good terms while he was outside doing the most with his boss and plotting on how to take down her ex-husband to run away with Marianne and take Henry away from her to create a new family?? Everything love did was out of passion to protect and persevere her family. She uprooted her life to be with Joe. He married her just to go along with the fairytale and that's not fair. Joe couldn't control himself from idealizing the perfect woman when she was trying her best. besides Theo of course. Then again Joe emotional neglected Love, and Theo was the only one in the whole town that understood her emotionally.
I think there was an interesting concept to Love's character they explored this season where she devloped into believing she never makes mistakes and is always in the right. She blamed Dottie for evrything and unleashing the monster in her by being a shit mom, she believed she was the better parent for Henry despite clear instability, she didn't ciunt her affair with Theo to be a betrayal and so on. This season as we got to see more of her character I found that she was someone who can never truly accept or admit to the ugly side of theirself, much like Joe. Both her and Joe have justifications for their immoral actions - his always plays out for 'love' and hers seemed to play out as 'protecting' and 'preserving' those she loved- I found the parallels interesting as they really were the perfect match.
@@empressbryanna3673 am sure if theo found out she kills people he would have gone, she doesnt love theo, she is looking for a person to fix and theo fits that
@@empressbryanna3673 literally people fail to see how fucked up Joe was too
Season 1 had Beck who was honest, but naive to how toxic, manipulative and downright unhinged someone can get. And therefore became his victim.
Season 2 had Love who was his mirror and understood his fantasy (someone he could "save" like an honorable knight) and actively manipulated things to fulfill that image (and in the end when it all came crashing down Joe was shocked and repulsed, but ultimately trapped by the promess of an idilic family)
Season 3 both Joe and Love slowly realize that the fantasy they crave is not real (or not real most of the time) and search for escapism with other people (also it gets harder to make your murders justifiable when you live with your mirror image)
I would like Season 4 to have someone who actively rejects a "fairytail" ending, "perfect family" or "the one" fantasies that Love and Joe had. Someone who is damaged but won't let themselves be put in the "damsel in distress" box Joe puts women into so he can save them.
SEASON 3 was THE best thriller web series ever made
Best video on this show!! funny how I hated love but still felt sad when she died
This season is the best so far!!
I’m gonna miss Love🙁
I know, Victoria Pedretti was fantastic as her
She was too well… impulsive.
Her acting was soooo good
tbh the second season has got to be my favorite. This one felt like it was dragging and didn't keep me as hooked. Plus, the ending was freaking stupid.
The first 5 episodes were really good, then i kind started skipped to get to the good scenes... but i won't say its stupid i stilk enjoyed it alot
Dude this season was so good though
i liked this season a lot but i hated the hacking family bullshit towards the end. Atleast the ending was fine and hopefully joe gets what he deserves.
It was crazier then other seasons because we saw two crazy ass people killing so many people. I loved it
Agreed
one thing i was not expecting that sheery and carry did not kill each other o m g! they literally fight back in the end and came out together however thy look too crazy and no brain types
joe wasn’t gonna kill love, he was prepared to walk away with a co-parenting relationship for Henry but was prepared in the event Love tried to kill him which she did. while pre-meditated, he acted in self defense
I agree but also not really I think either way he intended to pin the murders all on her
Thank you I feel like some people were watching a different show
It’s bitter sweet love on gon be on here nomore but I do hope she come back as like a vision or something freaking joe tf out like how it was with beck but I hope they change his story up a little for 4 because we know what’s gonna happen he’s gonna end up killing merrine because she’s not gonna love him .. but idk because she said she was happy her ex was dead so idk he might finally get caught cause what happen to peaches parents lookin into her murder? Idk how this might go there’s so many possibilities it was a great season in my opinion best one yet 💯
Yeah I think she'll be coming back to haunt Joe, like Beck did! I have some theories I'll be talking in my next video.
@@FlicksAndTheCity I’ll be waiting to hear your theories 😊
I'm so impressed by how quickly you were able to analyze the many themes and callbacks in S3! This made me love You even more :D
I'm so glad, Benjamin! That's exactly what I hope my videos do: help people love and appreciate a show/movie they watched even more! :D
Joe wanted to stop killing and live a simple life. Love was insecure and impulsive with her killing. They were both mirror images of each other. Also her behavior is indicative of parenting specifically from the mother's toxicity. Also Joe knew Love would try to kill him hence the contingencies he took. He outsmarted her.
Joe pulled a joe literally two seconds after moving to the suburbs. Then once his neighbour was dead he fell for yet ANOTHER woman! The dudes a sociopathic gaslighter.
They are both as bad as each other 😂
But personally I think Joe should have died with Love in the fire since that was be a crazy ending. But now there’s rumours of being a S4 👀
@@J23_ It's no rumor, they were greenlighted for a season 4 before season 3 even dropped lol
Joe will never stop killing. He wants to stop cause he believes he will reach that happy ending that doesn’t exist. Every time that he finds out that the girl he’s obsessed with is not perfect like in his head and will never accept who he truly is (the only one that would accept him was love) he will always fall out of obsession with them and will kill again. He doesn’t accept his sick and that’s the real problem.
This season was probably the best so far 🔥
After this season, the theme is going to become old. Maybe what could be different is Joe confronting his mother if she’s still alive. She’s the main reason of Joe’s obsessions.
Maybe confronting her and realizing what she did to him was wrong after seeing how she is could possibly open his eyes on why he has his fantasies. Possibly meeting his half brother as well.
But he already confronted her in the flashback. Told him to move on because she made too many mistakes w him
@@bre9708 while she deserting him just to start another family. I feel him getting a chance to see her in season 4 would allow him to understand the type of person she always was and not what he thought of her. Probably that can allow him to break his obsession mindset
It was a good season, but I was sad that love died because even though she was crazy she was a good mom. And poor Henry that had to be given away. Didn't get a chance to grow up with his real parents.
I like how you combined the story to the sell of the VPN. Excellent
Who else thought that Joe might run into Emily in the last scene?😂
Definitely a great and intense season, finished it in just a couple days lol
Plot twist: Imagine Joe creeping on EMILY IN PARIS. 😂
That would be the perfect collab!
Nah Emily in Paris is terrible
Plot twist: Henry becomes a notorious serial killer in California.
that transition into the ad was smooooothhhhhh
So this is gonna be a recurring theme now ? A part of me really did felt like love for the lack of a better term did loved Joe
That ad placement was phenomenal
Thank you!
Very good season, can't wait to see Joe get his comeuppance!
Hopefully have season 4 will be more amazing since Season 1 to 3. Congratulations Penn and Victoria❤️❤️❤️❤️
These series are awesome...one of my favourite.... Can't wait for season 4
Even the brand of their oven is Wolfe
I thought love was also the main character of "you" but I guess I was wrong
Joe and Love was the main characters of the third season
Good season. The fact I felt bad for Joe due to my dislike for Love....those two actor/actress were phenomenal. But not really caring for a fourth season.
Why not?
Yeah I feel like 2 seasons or maybe even this as the last season would've been best. If they wrap up next season well with Joe's consequences catching up to him, then I'll be satisfied
I really hope love is still alive. I don’t see the point in building all her character arc just to throw it away in the last episode
I enjoyed the season.
A few thoughts Id bounce off you guys,
Joe cannot love love because she's too perfect for him. He hates the thing they share in common, that they are murderers. Joe is all about fantasy vs reality. He makes up a fantasy person based off his stalking, then as he actually gets to know them, it ruins it for him. Learning love was the same as him, in all the ways he doesn't like himself was the end of it. Love accept who she was, and who Joe was. But Joe couldn't accept either. He always says he has done bad things for the right person. That's barely an acknowledgment. Its like a sorry with a but.
The first few episodes their was some debate over the name of the child, which seemly dropped of. I think it would have been some growth for either Joe to call him Forty to help love, or Love to declare him as Henry to show moving on.
There’s a couple things I’m thinking about for season 4. At the end of season 3 they briefly show in a flashback that he has a half brother named Jacob. I also can’t shake that maybe Beck is still alive. The only “dead” character who’s body isn’t shown.
But hasnt her corpse been found in dr Nicky"s backyard?
s2 will always be my favorite.
Is season 4 is last season? I will be happy for a last season
Not confirmed as last, it might be. I think it depends on how popular the show remains. But I think the story can continue for more if Netflix want to keep it going.
Still love Joe tho, dont know what’s wrong with me
"Love" love or just admire?
This season confirm my speculations from last seaosn and it all blew up in my face. I still prefer second season as felt more relatable to the cast than season 3.
It confirmed Joe's speculations too! LOL.
Nick was a character in the great gastby the book he was referencing in the beginning
There was a TEDx set-up at the Kid's birthday party at the start of the season and at the end of the season the Conrads are at an actual TED talk
Nice transition into the advert
I knew Love was gonna die after she killed the neighbor. She was way to impulsive and unpredictable. Which is why this season had me on the edge of my seat. I hope there’ll be Emmy nominations after this.
Great season and the best way to end it. I’d love comes back alive, it’s just like Candace. It’s been done already.