Looks to be an Ocean City trade reel. Never seen just metal drags in an OC reel. I have seen just one drag washer in them. I'd almost bet somebody was in there before and changed some things. Thank for the video.
First!!!!!! Thanks for posting. I have a thought that the all-metal drag stack was too 'dry' of any lube, which did not allow any slippage when the star washer was tighten all the way (max drag). At some point the user got hung up or snagged, thus warping the spool axle. The remaining reel components actual appear to be fairly robust when compared to a similar size Penn. Might be able to bend the shaft back to specs.
I think you are correct. The mono that was on this reel was very heavy. I figure the drag was cranked all the way down and the line was wound over the left side of the reel. While trying to break the line or pull it free from a snag, they bent the shaft on the spool. Of course this all speculation on my part but I believe I could be correct.
The video was informative even though, maybe especially because, the spool shaft was bent. Interesting design for the eccentric lever's spring system. Looks easier to deal with than what you find in the old Penn conventional reels. Looks like there might be some risk of breaking the post that goes through the center of the spring when installing. What do you think: did you find yourself maybe placing undue pressure on that post while setting the spring, or was it no big deal? Doesn't look like there's enough room in the drag stack for fabric or leather. Doesn't look like there's room for a friction coating either. Wow, I've never seen such a thing! 24:21 - I noticed there some stuff scratched into the drive-side plate: "D+", and "5/10". Do you think these were put there by the manufacturer? Or were they put there later? Maybe by some guy appraising the condition of the reel or something?
I don’t believe there was too much pressure placed on that center post. It is a heavy duty spring, but the post is pretty heavy too. I like that design once I got a chance to use it. Since working on the real, had a chance to ponder, maybe they originally used graphite on those drag washers. I don’t believe I’ve encountered anything like that before. I can see how in extreme condition the metal on metal drag washers could melt into each other. I have no idea about the numbers inside the right hand cover. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you have a dial indicator, drill press, and a brass hammer you might be able to straighten it. Assuming you have no run out on your drill press chuck, chuck up the spool from the handle end. Then set your dial indicator to check run out. Then tap lightly with a brass hammer until you have no run out.
I have lost count of the cotton swab ends I have found stuck inside main gear shafts in mostly Mitchell saltwater spinning reels. I really get lost when you get out of frame during his assembly. This was an absolutely filthy reel! I wonder if you could use some Penn cabontex washers in the main gear? Honestly I would try putting a couple Penn fabric or carbontex washers in the main gear, I’ve been trying to figure out who made the reel for Sears? Great job on that anti-reverse spring. This reel took a good deal of planning and careful reassembled this was some impressive work! Did you oil that clicker? Do you have any intention of using this reel on your boat? You can almost think this reel is just worn too much and near the end og it’s useful life.b very good try Rick! - Chris
Chris, the metal washers are very thin to begin with. In order to install carbon fiber washers in the drag system you would need to remove a keyed washer and an eared washer. However, since these never seemed to have failed I’m not sure it would be necessary. I did oil the anti reverse clicker. As for careful planning. I’m sorry brother, I seldom plan anything. I’m more of a flying by the seat of my pants kind of guy. I don’t think I’d ever put this reel into use on my boat. It’s real too big.
Looks to be an Ocean City trade reel. Never seen just metal drags in an OC reel. I have seen just one drag washer in them. I'd almost bet somebody was in there before and changed some things. Thank for the video.
First!!!!!! Thanks for posting. I have a thought that the all-metal drag stack was too 'dry' of any lube, which did not allow any slippage when the star washer was tighten all the way (max drag). At some point the user got hung up or snagged, thus warping the spool axle. The remaining reel components actual appear to be fairly robust when compared to a similar size Penn. Might be able to bend the shaft back to specs.
I think you are correct. The mono that was on this reel was very heavy. I figure the drag was cranked all the way down and the line was wound over the left side of the reel. While trying to break the line or pull it free from a snag, they bent the shaft on the spool. Of course this all speculation on my part but I believe I could be correct.
The video was informative even though, maybe especially because, the spool shaft was bent.
Interesting design for the eccentric lever's spring system. Looks easier to deal with than what you find in the old Penn conventional reels. Looks like there might be some risk of breaking the post that goes through the center of the spring when installing. What do you think: did you find yourself maybe placing undue pressure on that post while setting the spring, or was it no big deal?
Doesn't look like there's enough room in the drag stack for fabric or leather. Doesn't look like there's room for a friction coating either. Wow, I've never seen such a thing!
24:21 - I noticed there some stuff scratched into the drive-side plate: "D+", and "5/10". Do you think these were put there by the manufacturer? Or were they put there later? Maybe by some guy appraising the condition of the reel or something?
I don’t believe there was too much pressure placed on that center post. It is a heavy duty spring, but the post is pretty heavy too. I like that design once I got a chance to use it.
Since working on the real, had a chance to ponder, maybe they originally used graphite on those drag washers. I don’t believe I’ve encountered anything like that before. I can see how in extreme condition the metal on metal drag washers could melt into each other.
I have no idea about the numbers inside the right hand cover. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you have a dial indicator, drill press, and a brass hammer you might be able to straighten it. Assuming you have no run out on your drill press chuck, chuck up the spool from the handle end. Then set your dial indicator to check run out. Then tap lightly with a brass hammer until you have no run out.
That method put too much pressure on the handle side of the spool. I came up with a similar solution that I’ll be posting in the next few days.
I have a sportfisher 201 when I push the button to cast it won't stay open can't find the problem can you help thank you
I have lost count of the cotton swab ends I have found stuck inside main gear shafts in mostly Mitchell saltwater spinning reels. I really get lost when you get out of frame during his assembly. This was an absolutely filthy reel! I wonder if you could use some Penn cabontex washers in the main gear?
Honestly I would try putting a couple Penn fabric or carbontex washers in the main gear, I’ve been trying to figure out who made the reel for Sears? Great job on that anti-reverse spring. This reel took a good deal of planning and careful reassembled this was some impressive work! Did you oil that clicker? Do you have any intention of using this reel on your boat? You can almost think this reel is just worn too much and near the end og it’s useful life.b very good try Rick! - Chris
Chris, the metal washers are very thin to begin with. In order to install carbon fiber washers in the drag system you would need to remove a keyed washer and an eared washer. However, since these never seemed to have failed I’m not sure it would be necessary.
I did oil the anti reverse clicker. As for careful planning. I’m sorry brother, I seldom plan anything. I’m more of a flying by the seat of my pants kind of guy. I don’t think I’d ever put this reel into use on my boat. It’s real too big.