Triumph Street Triple RS vs Speed Triple R
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- Our first video of the new year is all about our favourite kitted out triples. The Triumph Speed Triple R vs the updated Street Triple RS.
Not your standard press launch fair, we've spent several months getting to know these bikes and what they're like to live with in real life, including all the boring bits like running and maintenance costs, that you guys ask for.
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I’d suggest you don’t keep referring to two similar machines and “this” and that”. Rather say - “Speed” or “Street” more because it became confusing as to which you were referring when you kept flitting between them in conversation.
When you are saying this or that please mention the name of the bike
Life On Two Wheels, I was about to say the same. They look nearly identical and sometime you cut away and we couldn't even see what this one and that one were.
This - bike close to him
That - bike far from him
Now if you try to keep saying Street Triple RS and Speed Triple R every time, then it not only gets annoying but is a good tongue twister :)
Unless you're just listening to the video, its not that hard to find out which bike he's referring to.
Doesn't need to be said every time, but some reinforcement helps, especially with the shots going back and forth.
Agreed hard to follow.
Pay more attention whilst watching. Obv the older chap prefers the speed and comparing the speed to the street. Watch his hands hes pointing to the bikes hes talking about. He never mixes this and that around. Hes actually on point.
Good vid....sounds like you and your daughter had a lucky escape there John, thankfully....although I'm sure your riding skills and experience helped massively...someone else and their son/daughter may not have been so fortunate....parts of the UK and especially London are becoming lawless...The government needs to stop being so lenient, it's pathetic what these cancers are getting away with...
It makes me angry that honest people have to doubt about spending their hard earned money on something they love, out of fear of it being stolen.
No doubt if they was a traffic light camera you be found.
GUILTY ! until proven innocent. In this easy pickings of paying taxes country we live in now .
Make Britain great again. Stop allowing the takeover.
You're spot on about London becoming a lawless zone, scooter/moped crime rose 400% from 2016 to 2017 and it seems the cops are turning a blind eye. no-one in their right mind would oppose them using the same tactics as police forces worldwide who knock the bastards of their stolen bikes.
Kev Sink
I like your style Kev, couldn’t have put it better myself. Executing thieves will make the world a better place.
Bad editing. You keep referring to “this bike” but we can’t see what bike you’re talking about.
If u watch the video with ur full attention u will understand which one he refers to as hes always referring to the speed triple as his and the street triple as someone elses. And if theres any other confusion just watch his hands as he points to the ones hes talking about.
It may have been the whisky tonight but I got a bit lost with the this bike and that bike thing. I didn't know what you were talking about guys. Good video though.
Drink less?
Agreed (except without the whiskey). Speed and Street also sound a bit similar; maybe the "big bike" and the "little bike" would have been better?
Be interested in a re-run of the vid with the new Speed Triple RS.
Banditmanuk same
I bought a beloved 2004 Yamaha Fazer 600 from Carl Rosner back in 2012. It was my first bike, and I remember how nervous I was as I exited the slip road onto the main road, and made my way up to Sanderstead, tearing up some of the hills around the area. Of course, I found a lovely hedge a day later, and my respect for the machine grew and I realised how limited my skill was.
It was nicked in Streatham, South London, in 2015 about two weeks after I had moved back to London.
As a Londoner born and bred, I got sick of the lack of quality of life and left London (and the UK) some months later. The bike theft was emblematic of how I felt in London - dispossessed, literally and metaphorically.
I am saddened by the bike theft epidemic in London. In comparison to where I live now (an old capital city in middle Europe), I leave my new bike unchained on a main street. Although, at first I had several anti-theft measures on the bike (two disc locks, massive chain, alarm, cover).
It needs to stop!
Mass emigration dude.
I put up the same comparison vid about 7 months ago and felt the Speed won it for me. The Speed is a very overlooked bike when it comes to naked 1000cc bikes. It doesn’t play the numbers game, but in the real world will be chomping at the tail of the competition. Great vid chaps
Dubble D We’ll check it out, just subbed you. Cheers
Bike World nice one chaps, keep doing what you do 👌🏼
That was a great review as well Dubble D, have watched it many times
Ryan Gordon thanks man
The shortest best review of 2 bikes in the last 2 years. Very good and thanks.
£1,000 for servicing for 12k miles? What planet are Triumph on? Can you imagine any car costing even half that, and a lot will be less than a fifth!
Motorcycles are typically expensive to maintain
No they aren't if you do it yourself!
Rs speed is the daddy like the gixer 750 k5 without a fairing 5 stars 👍😎🤩
G'Day Guys,
Nice comparison. I had an 06 Speedie and ended up going to a 2010 Street Triple R. That model handled so much better than its big brother.
I rode the new 765RS last year, with my dealer almost filling out the order form for me, convinced I would buy it, but as nice as it felt, I didn't like the fueling "hunting" feeling either. Couldn't live with that day to day. Would drive me nuts.
I've had my Tiger 800 for over 4 years now - longest I've ever owned any bike, and even though it has a face not even a mum could love, she punches so far above her weight that nothing I ride makes me want to jump off of her. I've been tempted by the S1000XR, but at above $32kAUD it simply isn't worth it. The Kato Super Adventure S, again was great in isolation, but I still got on my old Tiger and smiled.
If I get a chance to get a second bike I might get another Speedie, or even a 'Thrux, but for now, I'm sticking with my ugly yellow/green Tiger 800.
It’s good to see journalists discussing / raising awareness of the bike crime problem in London. I think unless we keep on about it the government will continue to bury there heads in the sand and ignore it. It’s a disgrace what London is becoming it’s putting me off wanting to ride anymore. Your point about wanting to ride a £1500 crap bike is such bad news for biking future too as I’m sure your not the only one thinking like that (I know I am too). Must be hurting new bike sales. Maybe manufacturers will start to get more involved in the issue, after all it’s there profits that will hurt when sales drop. Thanks for the review. Great channel.
kernal85
I think the new bikes with remote keys is a good thing, they wont go far without the key.
Though a bullet in the head is a better more permanent solution.
Triumph servicing costs are absolutely outrageous, has always put me off buying one.
Man, i owned a Speed Triple R for 3 years, then it was stolen from me. Put 35k miles on it, never had to do anything to it besides changing tires, oil and filter. Oil and filters done by me. Not great servicing cost to me lol.
I don't use the triumph dealer network, local decent bike garages and independent triumph specialists for that more challenging work is the way to go for older used triumphs. I was quoted £700 from a main dealer for a 12k service last year, went independent and paid less than half that. Bike obviously out of warranty too.
It's belts every two services, good idea to milk money from your clientele...
If you've dome 8500 miles you've made the first service. The 600/1000 miles service after break in is not counted. I think the new 11° engines have a service every 12/15k kms right? Than belts at 24/30k.
1066Rider the belts are changed with mileage, at 30k kms i think. If you don't ride that much is not a big fuss, but if you do it's a major service every two years
Nice review ...I own a striple 675 and I love it ....I have ridden the 765rs ...I still prefer the old fashioned riding ...
Can’t wait to see a comparison to the mt09sp!
A great episode with decent reality checks thrown in. Let's have more of this guys!
downside of living in the UK where guns are practically banned.. bikes get stolen here in the US, but its bikes that are parked outside and not garaged. no one is dumb enough to try to steal one with the rider on it, because most bikers here carry. large majority open carry. bike worth 10-15k isn't worth your life, so they won't even try.
VERY GOOD BUT i DONT KNOW WICH BIKE YOU TALKING ABOUT ,, completly disaster
I have 2011 “SPEED” triple. People compliment me all the time on my bike, but they usually say nice “STREET” triple. Then I’m like “FUCK OFF”
Should have asked why Triumph refuse to admit that there is a problem with their bug eye headlights, they seem to deteriorate after 9k miles, and then just melt out of the blue, Triumph then try and blame the owner for neglect for the lights melting! Yeah owned the bike for years, covered 9k miles and then all of a sudden the lights melt. Disgusting service from dealership and Triumph!!
I think the street is a flippin brilliant bike the only thing that's bad about it is it's just too small for anyone smaller than 6ft. I rode 2 675s and just feels like a push bike. My 1050SE felt like a big bike. I'm 6ft 85kg and for my frame I'm better suited to the 1050 even tho the new street is probably just as capable.
Speedy all the way for me. The Street is just too lacking in torque to even register, needs to be revved too hard to wake up and that's not a nice way to ride IMO. Lazy low down torque rules.
The lads at Carl Rossner are great chaps, did Adrian refuse to be on camera 😂
I ride a Street Triple R 2010, I’d like to add that I can fit a 16mm chain through the swing arm, which I cannot do with the new crop of Street Triples. Therefore I will not be upgrading.
But in reality the speed triple r doesn't make 140 hp and the difference in power between the 2 is only about 3hp more for the speed triple on various dynos (See th-cam.com/video/cf9tEcRxfLk/w-d-xo.html , www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn-motorycles/2017/triumph-street-triple-rs/speed-street-triple-dyno-power-1050r/ ), which means actually that the street triple rs has much better power to weight ratio (25 kg of weight difference), handles better, has better electronics and is cheaper. It is known now days that the street triple rs and r make more power than nominal whereas the speed triple r much less than nominal. The only reason I believe Triumph did that is because the updated the street triple (including power, and electronics) much before the speed triple, and hat to somehow convince people buying an older more expensive Speed triple R, that is 2k more expensive, has dated electronics, has inferior handling, and is slower than the street triple rs and probably also the r. The street triple rs is by far the better bike than the speed triple r. That may not be the case necessarily the case if you would compare the speed triple RS to the street triple RS though. I would appreciate though if you compare dyno figures on the same dyno instead of nominal power. Nominal power is just marketing!
You nailed it - nothing makes up for cubics, a well known fact one shouldn't forget.
rsvr62 The closet Harley fan has spoken. Handling, have you heard of it?
In my opinion....The Speed Triple WIN!
Great "real world" video, hopefully, you guys have more planned. Sucks to hear about the bike theft situation over there in the UK though.
TRexHeliPilot not the UK just London , London is a shithole
Most boring model of 1050😩i take 765rs feels faster ✊🔥🔥
Speedy ftw! (see some of my speedy-videos!)
Good video but can't believe your service charges!!
Id like a remake of this one now that the new Speed is out !
Cheers!
There's a new Speed Triple coming.
Loved the honest review.
Very good video guys, thanks and well done!
Always had a soft spot for the Speed Triple until it got lost amongst the competition.
The oppostion has comfort and modes for those folk who find power intimidating. Its nice to have the choice.
LOL, mate, you can't use a 100hp on the street except in straight lines, it's just the practical reality of bikes on the street.
I always use that old adage 'Its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it'
The Speed isn't trying to compete with the likes of The Tuono and Superduke, it occupies a niche all its own. It's fun and has all the power and handling you could ever need but it's also easy to live with. Having owned both a Speed and a Tuono v4 I can honestly say, that as glorious as the Aprilia is in its mental awesomeness, the Triumph is the better bike day to day and I would buy a Speed again tomorrow
There will always be a market for folk that choose Korma over Vindaloo
Back in 2009, I chose the Speed because I spend a lot of time on the interstate highways in northeast US, without any regrets at all. I still have the bike, but if I had to do it all over again, I'd make the same choice today. Tip: get a top-shelf aerodynamic helmet if you go this route (I got a good Shoei). I don't like windscreens obscuring my otherwise pristine view.
@Bike World yesterday, I went to my local dealer to look at the Street Triple RS & Speed Triple RS, as either would be my first bike. The dealer suggested the Street RS because it has less power than the Speed. For full disclosure, before making a purchase decision, I'm going to take the MFA course here in my city.
I like the idea of cruise control which is why I'm leaning toward the Speed Triple. I'd rather not drop $14k for the Street , ride for a year, then turn around and drop roughly $18k for the Speed. Financially, that does not make sense to me.
Considering the riding modes, I could easily select the one which provides less bhp as I'm gaining experience as a rider.
Your thoughts?
The Street Triple RS is tailored fort the track, stiff suspension, a flat mid range and everything comes in with a rush above 10k. Great for stand up wheelies? (illegal,and making the public think that ALL motorcyclists as irresponsible, grow up!!
I'm not old & grumpy but I'd still go for the Speed Triple. I like the big bike feel its got and that extra torque gives access to more power in the lower end of the Rev range which within City and country lanes is what I need.
I have to side on the Street RS, for me it’s an everything machine, so light making it perfect to commute but also that ability to fly when I want to have fun. My advice to anyone would be to test ride them both as they are very different when your on the roads. Sorry to hear about your scare mate I hope your wee lassie wasn’t too shook up 👍🏻
It's important to note that multiple independent dyno results show that Triumph substantially inflated the Speed Triple's HP numbers and sandbagged the Street Triple's output a bit, probably in an effort to separate the two enough to make the bigger Speedie viable. In actuality, independent dyno runs show them to be very close with regards to HP. Of course the bigger Speed puts out more torque, but the power is in actuality not much more than they were producing in 2008. I traded my 08 for a 16, and I honestly can't fell the claimed 15 extra horses anywhere. Considering the cost of the R model Street, I'd have opted for that over my S model Speed. If considering the Speed Triple, do some research 1st. There's a substantial difference in price between the two and not much difference in performance.
Living in central London, I bought a dirty old Yamaha to get around. Bike before that - back in the states - was a Street Triple and I loved it. Could have used a bit more power (it was a 675), but I loved that machine dearly. But for an inner city with as much bike theft as London, I just wanted something gray that would get me around and not attract much attention. It's a real issue.
I’ve owned both, sold both for very good reason!
I collect my speed rs next Saturday lol. Love the man feel of the old 1050, however admire and love the design , tech and concept of the 765rs. So new 1050 rs makes sense. I’ve added heated grips quick shift, protection pack and few Triumph bits on a black model.....roll in n summer.
Need to do and rs vs rs street and speed video. Give me a shout if fancy it I’ll compare as will have owned all of them.
I would also go with the Speed, with some lower pegs because I like the laziness that a bigger engine gives you. I don't have to push my MT-10 hard at all to get to ludicrous speed (and having insane power at hand just in case is very nice) and it's less focused riding position suits my long legs, I did test the speedy and had to return it after half an hour. After 2 1/2 years on a 2013 STR I was surprised that it's big brother didn't suit me.
And the other bike for central London, the cheapest snotter with a MOT and a good turning circle + can's of flat black paint, if it looks like it will give you Gonasyphahurpulitus from 5 yards then maybe the scum will leave it alone?
Great review! I have a 17 Speed R and bought it over the 765RS. 765RS is a great bike but I don't think you can go past the looks of the Speed with the single sided swing arm and the bottom end of the 1050 triple just makes it so easy to ride in the day to day. I hear you on the being a bigger bloke too, I think the Speed is a better fit not to mention a little more appealing pillion for the Mrs.
Both bikes are great, they really are. I'm biased because I've owned 3 Speed Triple's and 0 Street Triples, but I do feel like I'm on a bit of a toy when I ride the Street versus the Speed. Aside from the Speed Triple being underpowered by today's Superbike standards, the bike just does everything so well and is so happy to do it for you. I mean they really do feel like a big loyal dog that just loves you and can't wait for you to come home. I just love them. No way I trade it in for a smaller and more skeletal version, but if I was forced to, I wouldn't cry too long, I would certainly make do
Great video chaps. One thing to note is that there isn't 20bhp difference between these bikes, you'd probably be lucky if it's 2bhp. The 138bhp Triumph quote for the Speed is at the crank whereas for the Street it's actually rear wheel (depending on the dyno). Guessing that was a marketing decision to differentiate them more.
Dyno tests show the power difference between the two bikes is practically negligible. I personally found that the old 675 could keep up with this new Speedy on a twisty road without issue - this points to the massive weight difference of closer to 30 kg wet. But that's not the point. It's not even about being old and bald, either. The Speedy has great gobs of torque, making it effortless fun to squirt around in one gear. The Street on the other hand is best enjoyed on its ear with the throttle pinned, banging off the limiter - and it makes it seem safe and easy. Both are utterly compelling machines, it'd be nice to have both.
Good review one of the most open honest and down to earth I've seen, you would have done even better getting a previous gen Speed owner like myself in to compare and contrast even further. You fail to mention there are some £5k+ savings to be made over new with say an Ohlins shod 2012 Speed R. Good points raised about RBW throttle over cable, this would be the case with current and previous gen Speed too, personally not found a RBW throttle on any bike I've ridden to be close to a cable old school throttle. Having test ridden first and second generation Street and Street R the 2011+ Speed was just way better for me size and engine wise. Cheers, more reviews like this please! :)
Is this bike good enough and usually commuting friendly? for daily use and weekend touring?
Any way great video
Be safe
Sorry to say but it is really hard to follow what bike you are talking about when you talk about street triple (?) rs in grey/white?.. and show pictures of speed triple rs in grey?.. wut?
Thank you, thank you! I've been waiting for someone to do a review on these two. I am a 48 year old fella, carrying slightly more weight than I should and I love my 2016 Spreed Triple R. You nailed it when you suggested it's a slightly more grown up bike that will treat you well but can go fast if you want. I think it's the perfect gentlemen in litre bikes with a naughty side. The 6000 mile service and a set of Michelin Road 5s just after Christmas has made me choke a bit.
triumph service is to dear . litre bikes are easyer to ride on the road because you dont need to drop down 2 gears to over take you just go. every bike has got to much power , but we all want more. both these bike are very good lighter one makes more sense
My speed triple was robbed in north London all I got from the police was a text saying no longer investigating!! Great video by the way, I also tested both and found the speed more fun due to the low down torque and found the street a bit unstable at high Corner speeds (maybe due to its light weight!)
The Incredible Sulk same here with street triple. This country is a joke. Greatest support for criminals at the expense of hard working people. I’m not buying another bike in uk.
10secondsrule I hear ya, I just moved to Ireland, now just need some dry weather 🙏
How ? Was the bike not chained up? And didn't you have a disk lock?
I plan to buy a street triple r at some point but i also plan to put an extra. £1000 for additional security for it.
Tracker and all that stuff
So I have the 2016 Speed, I can add the new color TFT from the Street to my Speed ??? Rode the Speed to the “Tail of the Dragon” had a blast !! Great vid keep it up 👍🏼
I am 6ft and 15.5 stone
The Speed Triple is much better suited to me. I rode the Street and it felt like a toy, and the Speed felt solid and planted.
Where did you buy your RS for £3000???? I need to know ASAP please!!
Love the programme but sort the mic sounds out. Distorted talk is awful. Okay on TH-cam, utter shite on telly.
I agree with all that, don’t ask but I’ve got both and fully accessorised them to the max and more de cating the speed arrows on both. The street is about to go to private buyers, as will the speed soon as it was just a love affair for both to see buy ride do up. Both lovely bikes.
765 for boys, 1050 for men
The new st3 feels so sharp in the bends like it was some kind of telepathic communication between you and the st3 but why not make the st3 engine more hooligan friendly like the engine found in mt09? I mean this is a naked bike, right now if feels like a naked Daytona and for a street bike this feel not that optimal.
Your idea of estimating the cost of dropping the bike - absolutely brilliant! Well done, thank you!
I was going to buy a Street RS but now I have heard about the ridiculous servicing costs - no thanks.
That speed needs a TFT display and a quick shifter if they want to compete with the others and charge that much for an updated bike.
Damn it is that bad in England with motorcycle theft. It surly change from when I was station at lakenheath in the nineties.
Rode both of these and liked the Speed more.. Please do more videos like this Bike World !
I liked the bit with Dave. He has a nice face.
wouldn't go that far Elliott.
Well there's a new version of the Speed Triple now and it is quite a bit better than this old version.
I love everything about the bike the bike got everthing just only the head light for me it is big matters it look weird.
Well done. Very much appreciate the full picture of ownership.
Speaking as a 61 year old git, I'm glad someone agrees with my thoughts. Having borrowed a Speed for 24 hours, whilst my 675 Street was being serviced, I felt it had more road presence, the additional weight making it feel completely planted on the tarmac. Can't afford the new 2018 RS Speed, which is just bloody stunning (imo). It may 'spin up' more quickly but the somewhat 'gentlemanly' nature of the older bike makes a used 2016 model in that rather nice grey, top of the bill to be my next bike...
We'll be riding the new speed in a few days Steve, the vid will be loaded here very soon.
Then triumph up and releases the updated Speed triple which makes the decision that much harder haha
Speed triple runs out of grunt too quickly, but not a bad bike
Street triple RS is great with carbon BST wheels love twisty
Cant wait for the new 1250 Speed Triple next year
BarryEssex really? Did not know this was cominv.
New Speed Triple RS announce tomorrow , Pleaseeeee
Good job selling the bikes. London, not so much.
which is, "this bike" and which one is "that bike" ?
hahaha, I like the brakes. The brakes are fantastic
can y'all translate that to US dollars please?
is the Street Triple S good enough?
good review I liked the style of both.
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Thanks for nothing...
Excellent review...
Nice one, guys :)
For me would have to be the triple 765RS still more than quick enough for most people but better looking bye far and more upto date but both great bikes in their own right 👏👏
There's the question of comfort as well though, and this where the 1050cc wins, plus that instant torque.
TheKwod yeah definitely both bikes have there pluses and minuses ultimately it just comes down to personal choice and for me its still definitely the street triple 👍🏻
great review - thanks!
I had this exact dilemma last year and after test riding both, I bought the Speed Triple R and added a quick shifter. To me it felt like a better quality bike and I still love it!
M W I'm in same dilemma now. But the problem is if I should get the 2017 or the new Speed RS.
Fawad Bilgrami The Speed RS is definitely a decent update over the 2017. Practically everything about the newer bike is better in my opinion. The only thing I’m not keen on is the colours of the new bikes. Much prefer the 2017 in the Grey colour. The 2017 can also be found in dealerships for a decent price now to.
M W You're right. However one can get very good deals on the last year's ones. I just can't justify the $3500 to $4500 difference between the newer model and the last year's one.
Like the honest review
You forgot insurance costs in running costs.
We'll be looking at that very soon, this was just a launch review.
Good review 👍
Great review! I would expect a major update to the Speed Triple to be announced in 2018. What are you guys hearing?
PistolPete63 You'd expect them to at least update the dash for 2018. Will there be a CC bump to get it in line with the power of the current crop of super nakeds, unlikely. Will they drop it from the line up, I hope not!
Coldfin9er thanks! I think they really only have 2 choices, discontinue or update, the status quo isn’t really an option. If they could shed some weight and bump HP up to 150 it would be pretty competitive with the other super naked’s. Feels like the Street Triple R has crept up just a little to close to the Speed in performance so it will likely cannibalize sales from the Speed lineup unless they update.
Well they wont discontinue it since there are spyshots of Triumph testing a new Speed and MCN has made an article about it very recently. Surely they would add some hp like always and the usual color display and quickshifter. I hope they make it a bit lighter too. I think they may announce it early spring like they did with the Street last year. A bit of a teaser on Triumph UKs homepage very soon I hope :)
PistolPete63 Absolutely. Cannibalisation is definitely a factor to their strategy, but is the lure of the Street enough to keep punters in the Triumph family if they're in the market for a big powerful naked? I'm not so sure. I for one wasn't blown away by the '16 update and was looking to upgrade my '08 Speed at the time. The new model just didn't cut the mustard, KTM got my money against a 1290R. If the 765 was out at the time it wouldn't have even been a consideration for me.
It feels like they have developed the 675 purely for their Moto2 venture (good luck to them) and the Street is riding that R&D, but they surely must be losing market share to KTM, Aprilla, BMW and Yamaha at this point? Would a 160hp / 100 ft lbs Speed monster with all the toys bring them back? Damn right it would in my mind.
Torque house Interesting, hadn't seen that article! Fingers crossed they don't fuck it up and stay conservative with the update. They need to go balls out with it.…
Limited use bikes. Only good for short rides because they will beat you up on long all day rides. Good for beginning children in the bike world. No horsepower, windshields, or creature comforts. 100 hp + bikes rule in my world. They do it all. These bike bore you to tears after a few hours.
Twin headlights on meant you were on main beam. Dipped is only one headlight.
wow the theft problem completely sucks. i live in texas and i'm paranoid as well. maybe i'll get an alarm, don't know if they're worth it