11 Unsolved Elden Ring Mysteries

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  • Elden Ring is full of mysteries, and the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC will undoubtedly add to that number... But in the meantime, here is my count of 11 of the most potent still-unsolved mysteries in the wide world of the Lands Between... and beyond.
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    00:00 - Mystery 1: The World
    01:39 - Mystery 2: Death
    03:41 - Mystery 3: Outer Gods
    05:01 - Mystery 4: Gods
    06:29 - Mystery 5: The Elden Lord
    07:23 - Mystery 6: Blasphemy
    09:08 - Mystery 7: Marika the (Not) Eternal
    10:18 - Mystery 8: The Tarnished
    12:26 - Mystery 9: The Soulless King
    13:21 - Mystery 10: Unwanted Children
    14:33 - Mystery 11: Ugly Babies
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  • @BanditGames
    @BanditGames  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    What other mysteries do you wish we knew more about in Elden Ring?

    • @BinknotLink
      @BinknotLink 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      pretty quickly changed from bandit back to banditgames

    • @kreadapelu8813
      @kreadapelu8813 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      What’s up with those titan skeletons in Cailid and the mountaintops of the giants?
      What’s up with the aqueducts and related infrastructure that the Lands Between was seemingly built on and around?
      In the Erdtree Sanctuary there is a dude in a chair. Who dat? But also, on the ceiling in that room, in front of the doorway that leads to Marika’s weird bedroom, there a carving of a dude tooting his own horn. Why?

    • @NickCombs
      @NickCombs 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      12: What was original purpose of the divine towers?
      13: What happened that caused the divine towers to become half-buried in molten rock?
      14: Where are the tarnished summoned from? That opening scene where tarnished corpses fade away during incense rituals hints at some faction we either don't know about or have only been hinted at.
      15: How does the Helphen connect with anything else we know about in the game?
      16: Is Melina actually the Gloam-Eyed Queen, and where does she (or they) fit into the timeline?
      17: Who killed Iji with black flame? It is not the same red-black death flame used by the Black Knives.
      18: What was the Sun Realm and Seat of the Sun? How is it connected to those who live in death?
      19: What's Torrent's deal and why are both Melina and Ranni familiar with him?
      20: Who were the titans embedded in the mountains and Caelid?
      21: Where did Ranni's secret mentor, the Snow Witch, come from?
      22: How were the Eternal Cities banished deep underground?
      Ok I gotta stop or else I'll be here all day 😅

    • @rikley8153
      @rikley8153 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      What and who is Radagon. I highly doubt he is just Marika, if he is, why does he reforge the elden ring when marika shattered it?
      What makes an empyrean. Melenia's rune gives an explenation, but ranni is also one. And she is Rennalas daughter.
      Why does Rennala live so long. She was alive before the Fire giant massacre, which happened ages before the shattering, which happened before the game takes place, yet she seems to never have aged. It makes sense for the demigods and gods, yet Rennala seems to be neither.

    • @kreadapelu8813
      @kreadapelu8813 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@rikley8153
      Miyazaki has given more insight into the Empyrean. An empyrean is someone who’s existence is warped, they express their traits through different aspects.
      It’s a physical trait but does not manifest the same for each empyrean. Marika and Radagon are two aspects of the same entity.
      Malenia’s empyrean representation is Milicent and her sisters.
      Ranni’s two face state is, it seems, a choice she made to remind people that she was born empyrean and that she discarded that flesh.
      We assume Miquella’s expression is St. Trina.

  • @cheesecrew
    @cheesecrew 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    Godfrey was Hoarah Loux first. Marika chose him for being badass and then gave him Serosh to tame his bloodthirsty ways. Only then was he titled Elden Lord, and named Godfrey.

    • @cheesecrew
      @cheesecrew 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also, for Mystery 10;
      Alternatively the mausoleums could be holding stand-ins for Godwyn.
      'O Marika, Queen Eternal. He is your unwanted child.'
      Considering Marika cast out Godfrey after his usefulness(fighting the fire giants)was up, she probably didn't hold Godwyn in high regard. It falls in line with the theory that Marika assisted Ranni in some way to complete the Night of Black Knives.
      I'm not convinced there's room in the timeline for her to have several more Demigod children that would also become soulless(which has to occur under very specific circumstances(a body dying at the same time as the soul)).

    • @davisiotta489
      @davisiotta489 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@cheesecrew the soulless demigods are probably descendants of Godwyn himself, we know that Godrick is a distant descendant of Marika and Godfrey so he probably isn't even a grandson but is probably a great-grandson, the golden lineage had several demigods and most of them with the exception of Mogh and Morgot are probably the descendants of Godwyn

  • @tylerwarwick7975
    @tylerwarwick7975 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +143

    I think Messmer is the reason snakes are seen as traitorous because it's my personal theory that he burned The Great Tree so that the Erdtree could be grown from the ash but as we are told constantly burning the Erdtree is a cardinal sin and Messmer has some pretty solid snake imagery.

    • @Keegstar
      @Keegstar 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Solid snake? 🤨

    • @thiago292
      @thiago292 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      But the Erdtree is the Great Tree though

    • @tylerwarwick7975
      @tylerwarwick7975 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@thiago292 then why make this distinction in the root resin item description?
      "Resin secreted from the roots of the Greattree.
      Can also be found near trees on the surface.
      Material used in crafting items.
      The roots of the Greattree were once linked to those of the Erdtree,
      or so they say,
      and it is for this reason catacombs are built around Greattree roots."

    • @thiago292
      @thiago292 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tylerwarwick7975 the existence of the Great Tree is a translation error, if you read the original japanese translation it mentions that the root resin comes from the underground roots that were once connect to the Golden Tree (that is, the Japanese name for the Erdtree) and that's why they bury people in these roots. These roots are probably the ones belonging to the Crucible, which was the primordial form of the Erdtree and once the Erdtree proper arose, the crucible and its roots were left behind as husks.
      Rough japanese translation:
      "Mainly a natural resin that can be collected from the large tree roots underground. A material used to make items that can also be found near trees above ground.
      It is said that its roots were once connected to the Golden Tree, so the catacombs were built at the site of the roots of the great tree."
      Original japanese:
      主に、地下の大樹根から採取できる天然樹脂地上の木の側などで見つかることもあるアイテム製作に用いる素材のひとつ
      その根は、かつて黄金樹に連なっていたといい故に地下墓地は、大樹根の地を選んで作られる

    • @thiago292
      @thiago292 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@tylerwarwick7975 TH-cam simply deleted my previous reply but the gist of it was:
      The Great Tree is a translation error, what the Root Resin description is referring to are the roots in the Deeproot Depths which were once connected to the Erdtree through its primordial form, the Crucible. This is why they bury people there and why Godwyn is buried right below the Erdtree, because they believe that these roots will guide the dead's souls to the Erdtree.

  • @alliesangalli1757
    @alliesangalli1757 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    I saw a post online that translated the Japanese lines that the spirit by the mausoleum says. He's not calling him an "ugly baby" like Google Translate suggests, he's calling him a "bastard", as in a child Marika had outside of her two known consorts. That would explain why they're unwanted.

    • @PoopTheNetwork
      @PoopTheNetwork 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What do they say in total? In referance to what?

    • @alliesangalli1757
      @alliesangalli1757 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@PoopTheNetwork I didn't translate this so take it with a grain of salt, but in Japanese he roughly says: "The mausoleum wanders, carrying a soulless demigod. Oh Queen Marika the Eternal. The mausoleum carries your ugly bastard child." Referring to the headless body in a wandering mausoleum.

    • @Silly_Illidan
      @Silly_Illidan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Marika the eternal horny

  • @movespammerguyteam7colors
    @movespammerguyteam7colors 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Maliketh probably ended up slaying those forgotten Demigods. His name is supposed to mean “Death of the Demigods” after all. Everyone was and is afraid of him because he wields the power of Destined Death and uses it to kill things permanently.

    • @pinkvillafantasy
      @pinkvillafantasy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Those demigods were most likely killed by the Godskin as they wear the skins of slain demigods. Including their faces which is what the bodies in the moselums are missing.

    • @movespammerguyteam7colors
      @movespammerguyteam7colors 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pinkvillafantasy That is also a good point. I was just trying to point out that there are very few possibilities. No one can really truly die unless Destined Death or some form of fire is involved.

    • @pinkvillafantasy
      @pinkvillafantasy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@movespammerguyteam7colors For sure, the rules for death aren't all that clear in the game either. Like when a Demigod dies, their body seems to stay behind while their soul goes back to the erdtree. Like when Godrick dies his corpse is left behind being stomped out by his servant and Morgott's body is also left behind after we defeat him.

    • @Thrasher-92
      @Thrasher-92 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Youre wrong...the black knives killed the demigods...when godwyn died, he was "the first of the demigods to perish" (what is not true cause ranni died at the same time) but, other demigods died that night, and they were the brothers of godwyn, the golden lineage unwanted demigods...thats the plot of the bka night, kill all the weak demigods who marika dont need and forge a New rune of death using the body of godwyn, the one who is the only strong among them...

    • @Silly_Illidan
      @Silly_Illidan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So here's what I hypothesize....
      The soul less demigods all sided with the gloam eyed queen and paid the price for it... Makira knowing she could not afford a repeat, destroyed the souls of these rebellious children of hers and entombed them inside the mausoleums... Then she removed the rune of death to make sure that her loyal demigods will stay everlasting

  • @Wralis
    @Wralis 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +138

    About the headless Demigod children.
    -the head is important in ER lore, we have to specifically put Marika's head back on her body when we complete the game, or Ranni offers it up to the Dark Moon. The eyes in the head reflect runes/alignments (godfrey's eyes becoming dim, blood eyes, dragon eyes)
    I've always thought that the headless state of them is very important, we can see that people can commandeer bodies in the lands between (Sellen can take over bodies) but more threateningly Shabriri when they take over Yura's corpse-just imagine the mayhem that could be caused if an outer god or one of their servants possessed the body of a Demi God.
    We see in game that several children of Marika align themselves with influence of outer gods, but it's not out right possession.
    Furthermore, the walking mausoleums, why are they walking, why are they keeping the corpses from resting in the ground or coming in contact with the ground. I think this has to do with Death Root and how it gives license to Those Who Live in Death. We see death Root...take root in static locations, but not in the mausoleums. There are little barnacle like skulls attached to the feet we don't see anywhere else in game but no evidence of death root like we can all over in game, even Farum Azula which is physically detached from the Lands Between but this tells us that Farum Azula was once part of the Lands Between and lifted only after Godwyn's death to allow the spread.
    Also the bells that are attached. We see music or musicality tied to summoning spirits all through the game. Ranni's bell to summon spirit ashes, how the commanders yell to summon spirits of soldiers, wraith calling bells, and the bells on the mausoleums to keep the mausoleum soldiers protecting their wards.
    What I wanna know is what was done with the missing heads.
    Sacrificial axe-"Hatchet used in ancient sacrificial rite. A Deathbird is depicted as a malevolent deity. The power of the rite yet lingers. A small amount of FP is restored upon slaying a foe."
    so were their heads offered as sacrifice like we see the Fire Giant do with his own leg?

    • @Solibrae
      @Solibrae 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I think the headless Demigods were the others killed during the Night of Black Knives. Perhaps Ranni carving half the Rune of Death into her flesh didn't just affect Godwyn's murder, but all the rest of them too. When Marika saw what was starting to happen to Godwyn's body down in Deeproot Depths, she ordered that all the other slain Demigods be placed in the Walking Mausoleums so that they would never be able to spread Deathroot around. Although that doesn't explain why they're all missing their heads!
      I saw another person's theory that all the skulls on the Walking Mausoleum's legs are from the various headless spirit soldiers who guard some of them.
      Your theory about that is good too, but it's also possible that Deathroot came to Farum Azula by way of Maliketh, who tries to eat it to stop it from spreading. Ironically his efforts may have given it access to another place entirely!

    • @Jt1Torso1Winabego
      @Jt1Torso1Winabego 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Love these little tidbits of information that From has us string together, how these motifs, now matter how small still connect to its world.

    • @asteriapiovra2204
      @asteriapiovra2204 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      would like to add to specifically the head/eyes theme: fromsoft always handled eyes as a way to connect to voids/abyss (firekeepers and their ability to gather a lot of dark soul inside them without going crazy basically; being touched by the dark without falling from grace so to say^^ like the demon-soul maiden who went into the fog in demons souls; like yuria the witch; yuria from ds3; irene; etc. but based on their loss of sight as a way to handle it-- at least simply put as far I could understand it.) especially directly worded in the Blacksky-Eye description on Bloodborne: "Deep within the eye lies a vast stretch of dark sky that rumbles with an endless meteor storm."- i could try to interprete this how eyes connect one to the gods themselves-or maybe eye-sockets work as a kind vessel for outer gods (we see loosing their eyes always results in some outer god taking over^^) so....... eh...... am lost, only wanted to add thoughts and not specifically theorize, bye:).

    • @jordanbrown3816
      @jordanbrown3816 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The mausoleums are walking presumably to keep their bells ringing. The bells summon the headless soldiers. Much like our spirit calling bell summons spirits from ash. There are other examples of bells being tied to spirits like the wraith calling bells and the bell bearings that we take form corpses

    • @Wralis
      @Wralis 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yep, brought that point up@@jordanbrown3816

  • @dothatstankyleg
    @dothatstankyleg 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I'd say Outer God of Frenzy is all but confirmed by the stated characteristic of the unalloyed golden needle that it removes the effect of an outer God's influence. Since it's this feature that allows you to remove the flame of frenzy from your character, that heavily implies outer god. The fell god is also most likely the outer god that the fire giants served which would make it bare minimum 6.

    • @HaohmaruHL
      @HaohmaruHL 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love how some blonde dude be like "heh, derp, made a pointy thing to warden off an alien cosmic being" in his spare time.

    • @ironii4781
      @ironii4781 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HaohmaruHL “Some blonde dude” was an Empyrean, the child of a
      goddess who was slated to become a god himself

    • @lnarivs2189
      @lnarivs2189 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the "lord of night" that the nox worshipped and served could also be counted as another outer god. it could also be the source of carian sorcery.

    • @ryxem4771
      @ryxem4771 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ironii4781 Empyrean isn't god or child of god btw. The 2 finger CHOSEN become an Empyrean, it is clearly stated IG. And it is stated too that Marika , before ascended to godhood, is a Numen ( same race of the black knife assassin , and share moveset of Melina , who is the only one with a Numen moveset so she's clearly something other than a child of Marika )

  • @rhysh7789
    @rhysh7789 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Considering GRRM wrote at least some of the backstory, I interpreted Marika and Godfrey’s relationship being somewhat similar to Cersei Lannister and Robert Baratheon, where Godfrey is a savage warrior who Marika married out of necessity, but was probably not a very good husband or Elden Lord after the battles were over, so she got rid of him. George loves combining large scale stories about gods and kings with personal and familial drama, and there’s quite a lot of that in Elden Ring’s story

    • @jamesdipego8240
      @jamesdipego8240 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Idk man I think Godfrey was fine, Marika just manipulative as fuck. Judging by Godfreys' interaction with Morgott, I think he had plenty of regrets and would NOT have stood by and watched his children be banished into the sewers of a kingdom he helped build. He seems to have mad respect for the ring, himself, his family, and us... I can't imagine him not living up to his title.

    • @Darkheart00
      @Darkheart00 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jamesdipego8240 na, this seems very in line with the Lore of Elden Ring, and the way Miyazaki and George like to write war mongers.
      Hoarah Loux was a bloodlusted beast, monster who met the blade of countless warriors, but could not die to them. Hoarah Loux being the lord in the time before the Erdtree makes so much sense considering his connection to the crucible era. In the crucible era, everything was pure - everything was one, all emotion, motives, physical traits, all. Hoarah Loux, naturally, adopted this as a character trait. He was simple, he was pure…. WAR, WAR, WAR. He placed great value in becoming lord only after felling his enemies.
      His bloodlust was so bad, that he had to become Godfrey to conduct himself as a lord. Even then, he still was capable of being a lord in the era of Queen Marika. Marika needed Godfrey to do what he enjoys: start a genocide. After godfrey’s only purpose left him, he lost grace, he lost ambition, therefore he lost meaning in life - and was no longer required as lord.
      Just because Godfrey is honourable in defeat, or that he has primal love for his offspring’s, doesn’t mean he isn’t a genocidal war monger.
      And it wasn’t manipulation from Marika. Godfrey was just too stupid to conduct himself as being smart, or a politician, once his enemies were felled. He should’ve known the consequences of there being no enemy.
      Fantastic character, he is. One of George and Miyazaki’s most simple, but effective character arcs in Elden Rings history

    • @jamesdipego8240
      @jamesdipego8240 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @WinterLight00 Im not sold. GRRM has said it himself that he likes "Grey" characters... I dont think Godfrey was that simple... and if anyone is war mongering, it's Marika/Radagon all the time. Godfrey was the gun, and Marika pulled the trigger.

    • @marknut9741
      @marknut9741 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jamesdipego8240 That's worse tho, means he was a mindless tool with no sense of self or purpose beyond war.

    • @Darkheart00
      @Darkheart00 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@marknut9741 I think that’s the very point of his character. Elden Ring puts heavy emphasis on the different identity of ages.
      The Age of the Crucible was more simple, combined, less convoluted and less complex. It was whole. It simply followed the rule, in general, of “a crown is warranted by strength”. Almost everything back then was kind of ‘caveman-esque’
      The Age of the Erdtree is different. After Godfrey’s conquest, the Age became more political. There were betrayals, conspiracies, and more ‘back-stabbing’ than the “a crown is warranted with strength” idea.
      I think Godfrey is a grey character, his morality is very difficult to discern due to his simplicity… but that’s what it is: ‘Simplicity’. George and Miyazaki seem to have made him simple on purpose. Him being simple shows the “flaws” of how his “Order” worked in the past. Radagon represents something Godfrey was never going to become due to his crucible-era ties, and his archaic view on lordship. Godfrey become a lord through strength. Radagon becomes lord through intelligence and faith. Both characters represent the flaws in the other’s techniques of lordship. Kind of like how, in the real world, we were much closer to our sense of self and our primal tendencies due to simplistic ideals centuries ago.. but NOW, we currently lack self-identity and confidence in our primal intentions, but have WAY more intelligence to fake our intentions and comprehensive skills to dictate decisions

  • @kyleharrison713
    @kyleharrison713 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    The soulless demigods have got to have ties to Godwyn. Godwyn was the first of the demigods to die and his death was not conventional and I don't think Marika knew that, which is why he still received an Erdtree Burial and in turn causing deathblight to spread through the roots of the Erdtree.
    I'd like to think that these children of no renown were her guinea pigs in ways of trying to save Godwyn's soul.

    • @lemongan
      @lemongan 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Hmm.. Remember Vyke ? He was the first tarnished to be really close to become Elden Lord. And someone did get 2 shard of the elden ring. Which rune was it ? Ranni can be one but I very much doubt that. As for the other.. There has always been more demi god that we've been told.

    • @cheesecrew
      @cheesecrew 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Miquella is the one that gave Godwyn the burial

  • @ScarletHaze
    @ScarletHaze 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    I'm so glad you started TH-cam, I've been watching you since botw first came out, thanks so much bro for making my childhood so good

  • @2JOfficial
    @2JOfficial 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +235

    I've seen pretty concrete lore that the Shadow Lands is actually above, in the sky. So the "Lands Between" is in between the Underworld (underneith) and the shadow lands "above".

    • @kreadapelu8813
      @kreadapelu8813 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      What?

    • @Letwoo67
      @Letwoo67 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

      Look up the definition of concrete.

    • @kreadapelu8813
      @kreadapelu8813 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Letwoo67 me? Is there a joke I’m missing?

    • @Letwoo67
      @Letwoo67 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@kreadapelu8813 I think you responded to the wrong person.

    • @kreadapelu8813
      @kreadapelu8813 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Letwoo67
      Were you telling me to look up the definition of concrete?

  • @cabstool
    @cabstool 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    One thing I discovered while just looking around while playing was that there is a supermassive mountain-like landmass located north of the Haligtree. It is only one texture and with mods or glitches, if you go over to it, which you surprisingly can, you will discover that it is not a solid object and you will just fall through it, so it is just a model used for visual aspects. But it raises the question of what this land is, because it is pretty big

  • @DarrenWest-le1rk
    @DarrenWest-le1rk 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Re: sacrifices
    I'm not sure I'd treat it as a literal sacrificial ritual. Marika engineered the Shattering seemingly to break free of the Greater Will and to allow someone to forge a new destiny. That someone ends up being us, but we have to kill the demigods to do so. In that way, they become mere sacrifices to allow a Tarnished to become Elden Lord.

    • @diarmuidallen5899
      @diarmuidallen5899 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah this is blatantly obvious, either her children become elden lord or a god or else someone more dedicated will come along and kill them and use their strength to do that instead

  • @user-lx2ep9hd4k
    @user-lx2ep9hd4k 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I'm so hungry for Elden Ring theories and videos like this. There are so little of them on TH-cam. Please make more. Bring me MORE. I NEED MOOOOOORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
    @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    The best way to interpret Marika is as a combination of Mother Nature and Cersei Lannister. She is constantly trying to beget upon the world more powerful children (Evolution) and she discards the unwanted children (Natural Selection, the sheers for the Tree of Life that snips off unviable branches of Evolutionary iterations). Cersei also has children (with Robert and with her twin, Jaime). She kills the child that she had with Robert, and she kills all of his bastards in a night of knives. She keeps and prizes those she had with Jaime (Joffrey, Tommen, Myrcella) and dispenses of Robert's potential claimants to the throne. Obviously, this is not a 1 to 1 situation, but I wonder if all of her children with Godfrey were Omen and/or cursed. Maybe Godwyn was not even Godfrey's son. Maybe he was someone else's. Maybe Godfrey was a cuckold. What is interesting about the Hellenic Greek concept of cuckoldry is that a cuckold would often be depicted as having horns like a beast.

  • @yengereng9962
    @yengereng9962 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    am simple man, see big ring gaem, me click

  • @guardiandarkness5345
    @guardiandarkness5345 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    According to SmoughTown the soulless demigods may also be Victims of the night of black knives.

    • @wrathofthegods4739
      @wrathofthegods4739 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No cursemarks of death and no mention of any other deaths that night other than godwyns soul and rannis body.

    • @victorpedrosoceolin3919
      @victorpedrosoceolin3919 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's the children of the gloamed eyed queen, she probably also had a dinasty of her own

    • @pinkvillafantasy
      @pinkvillafantasy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They were most likely killed by the Godskin. The Godskin wear the skins of slain Demigods in particular they wear the faces of the slain demigods. Which would explain why the dead demigods have their heads missing. The Godskin killed them at some point and took their heads.

  • @rickpeterson4821
    @rickpeterson4821 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I loved this video Bandit! Love lore. I have been watching some of your OOT playthrough and am loving you narrations and emotion. Thank you. :)

  • @M.R.B.T_7890
    @M.R.B.T_7890 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Vyke killed 2 unknown demigods by the way

    • @igorhq1
      @igorhq1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Not neccessarily. He might've killed someone we know from the game, and then they reborn through the remembrance on the Erdtree, as they technically should since Destined Death is removed.

    • @simonediblasi8950
      @simonediblasi8950 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@igorhq1 but destined death has nothing to do with the blessing of grace, Miyazaki even made it clear iirc in an interview before the game's launch

    • @_BlackenedSun
      @_BlackenedSun 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@igorhq1elden ring story is trash

    • @SDSypher
      @SDSypher 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@_BlackenedSun why are you here?

    • @SDSypher
      @SDSypher 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He what

  • @garrettagard7371
    @garrettagard7371 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This whole video screams watch Tarnished Archeologist serious

  • @PixelOverload
    @PixelOverload 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "how big is the world (outside the game area)" is a question that applies equally to every fromsoft souls/like game. Creating situations that feel like they're some global crisis only to explicitly tease the existence of far away lands with completely unrelated issues otherwise unaffected by the nonsense over here is a core component of their world building

  • @cakeassassin6277
    @cakeassassin6277 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would say there are 2 types of incantations/ sorceries.
    Those that are created trough study and those that summon powers from the outer gods.
    If im not mistaken, glintstone scales on inteligence.
    I would say only the incantations that scale out of faith are related to outer gods

  • @Darkheart00
    @Darkheart00 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I believe that the event of the Rune of Death’s removal isn’t different to the concealment of the Land of Shadow. Fromsoft & Bandai’s phrasing makes it seem like that the “Golden Order’s dark secrets” (Bandai, 2024) will be uncovered… and we know that the Golden Order was founded on the principle that Marika became the Eternal Queen after removing Death. And we know, from interviews and trailer context, that the Land of Shadow is where “Marika became a god and the Erdtree was born” (Famitsu, 2024).
    Now, I’m not saying that the Erdtree is a later edition to the game’s chronological timeline. Instead, I’m inferring that the “Golden Tree is born” (Famitsu, 2024) Miyazaki is referring to is specifically the Erdtree as we see it today. I believe there was ALWAYS an Erdtree of Life (perhaps the Crucible form of the Erdtree, perhaps an ancient Greattree), but after doing whatever Marika did in the Land of Shadow to become a god (I think she defeated the Gloam Eyed Queen and removed death to be on the Eternal), the nature of the Erdtree changed to what she sees fit… hence “the Golden Tree was born” (Famitsu, 2024)
    I think, among many of the things that will only bring us more questions, that we’ll actually get a lot more answers than prior Miyazaki DLC’s. Among those answers/clarifications to be The Removal/Nature of the Rune of Death; Numen and Marika; and the Crucible, Elden Ring and the Erdtree.

  • @alliesangalli1757
    @alliesangalli1757 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    13:44 I don't think the soul is referring to the headless being as Marika's unwanted child, he's referring to Godwyn. He is the soulless demigod because his soul was killed, and, despite the fact that Godwyn was Marika's favorite child, his new form as the Prince of Death is unsightly to the Golden Order. The mausoleum knights are also associated with Godwyn, wielding weapons infused with Death, and Lhutel's ashes even state that she chose to Live in Death to serve the "soulless demigod" until he could be reborn.

    • @alliesangalli1757
      @alliesangalli1757 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Regarding Marika calling the demigods sacrifices, I think that's in reference to her plan. She clearly wants someone to rise to the throne of Elden Lord and slay a god, so she encourages her kids to do so. But, if they fail, then they'll be but sacrifices for the Tarnished who kills them to eventually become Elden Lord.

    • @kreadapelu8813
      @kreadapelu8813 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I’m going to have to disagree a bit.
      The bodies in the Walking Mausoleums do not produce deathblight.
      Godwyn does produce deathblight.
      Soulless is an ambiguous term. In reference to Godwyn, his soul is dead. In reference to those in the mausoleums, their souls are absent.
      Grace is something like souls shaped into runes to produce some sort of magic. The Elden Ring is a compilation of runes as is the Rune of Death. However, the grace in Destined Death is dead. Grace is living, in a sense. Deathblight is just what dead grace is called. Godwyn’s living body houses dead grace which is apparently incredibly infectious.
      If the soulless demigods has dead souls, we’d see deathblight. We don’t.
      Now look at Miquella. His body is soulless, his soul is in the Land of Shadow. Deathblight does not grow from his body.
      I suspect that these soulles demigods are in this state because they went to the Land of Shadow. Perhaps even as scouts and/or messengers for Miquella, they could have been sent to find or signal the Tarnished. Some complication has occured and they have not returned to report their findings to Miquella.
      The Eclipse was meant as a contingency plan to recall them if they couldn’t return on their own. It failed.
      I’ll go further and suggest that Miquella decided to go in anyways but set up a tertiary exit at the Chapel of Anticipation.

    • @alliesangalli1757
      @alliesangalli1757 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @kreadapelu8813 Yeah I did some more research and I was definitely wrong about it being Godwyn. Specifically, the Eclipse Crest Heater Shield states that the Mausoleums house the slumbering soulless demigods, plural, which definitely refers to the headless bodies.
      I love the idea of them being soulless because their souls are in the Land of Shadow. We already know that Miquella had to get rid of his body so his soul could go to the Land of Shadow, and the state of his body is similar to that of the soulless demigods. Plus, it seems like the Land of Shadow has some association with spectral things in the Lands Between, which would connect it to the Mausoleum knights.
      That being said, I disagree about the eclipse. I think it was Miquella's attempt to bring back Godwyn. The Golden Epitaph, which was made after Godwyn's death, was infused with a young boy's prayer that states: "O brother, lord brother, please die a true death." It seems clear that Miquella lamented Godwyn's fate. With the eclipse being said to bring soulless bodies back to life, I think Miquella wanted to summon an eclipse to resurrect Godwyn, either to have him back or to grant him a proper death. Perhaps the reason it failed was because Godwyn's soul wasn't away in the Land of Shadow, but dead. Perhaps this is how Miquella even learned about the Land of Shadow and how to get there.

    • @kreadapelu8813
      @kreadapelu8813 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alliesangalli1757 Yeah, I can see that possibly being the case.
      Heck, it’s possible that Marika’s “sacrifices” line refers to the Land of Shadow. As it seems that one must discard flesh, grace, name and all other bindings to get there. The purpose is to force you, isolated from all aid, to prove your worth. A lord, a god, must be strong without grace. All the Tarnished too must be strong without grace. If her children try but fail, they don’t get to come home.
      At least, in my head canon, Marika/Radagon have been orchestrating the death of the Elden Beast for a very long time. There is a fear that it could sap the strength of runes from those who would be its death, so she needs us to not need grace… and there are plenty of players who do level one, no hit runs to prove it’s possible.

    • @benedictprove3937
      @benedictprove3937 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@alliesangalli1757 The Eclipse Crest Heater Shield description specifically states that "the sun in eclipse is said to be the symbol of the Wandering Mausoleums where the soulless demigods slumber", so I have to think that the eclipse isn't for Godwyn. Also, the eclipse is specifically to "grant life to the soulless bones", and Miquella wants Godwyn to "die a true death", rather than be revived.

  • @orom6581
    @orom6581 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    im like 100% sure that the serpent eiglay is the elden beast equivalent for the crucible, which im also pretty sure is the tree from the DLC, as it pours the primordial life goop into the chamber below, same way that the erdree blesses new life into the land through sap falling into marikas bedchamber

  • @sir-dame-sander
    @sir-dame-sander 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    my theory on the soulless demigods is that they’re not directly sacrificed by marika, rather the subject of a ceremonial burial she oversees (likely via morgott and his forces) when they’re killed by a tarnished. the beheading of the demigods would be to symbolically take back the godhood they failed to deserve; and their loyal soldiers being beheaded alongside them would serve the dual purpose of making sure that nobody is able to physically speak their names anymore (or possibly even think of them, given that the brain is now gone), condemning them to eventually being forgotten by the greater lands between. this is why there are places like the impaler’s catacombs (yes, I think messmer is a soulless demigod. more on that in a bit) that are seemingly of great importance yet named after a person nobody knows of
    I initially got on this whole train of theorizing while thinking about the fact that vyke 100% For Sure killed at least two demigods in order to be eligible for lordship, but *we never see them mentioned ingame*. given there are five mausoleums, I assume there’s at least five demigods that have been killed/buried this way, and my dlc theory is that they’ll be the ones we fight in the shadowlands - they seem to be a metaphysical burial ground for things that marika wants everyone else to forget (hence the presence of her messier conquests, crucible beings, etc), so it makes complete sense to me that her shunned children would be trapped there as well

  • @Amknownas_743great_explainer
    @Amknownas_743great_explainer 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Woooow, it really has been two years, I am STILL waiting on the bosses/dungeons series where you tell us about the boss people and a certain other TH-camr tells us about the dungeon!

  • @loribroadbent8573
    @loribroadbent8573 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I see a Bandit video, I watch! Have a great day everyone!

  • @DeadFieldofFlowers
    @DeadFieldofFlowers 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My theory is that Marika is simply avoiding the IRS

  • @hhowdy
    @hhowdy 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just want to say I’m glad to see you back with Elden Ring :)

  • @agxryt
    @agxryt 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bandit your outro music is so good. Wish i could get it as my ringtone

  • @randymarshislorde
    @randymarshislorde 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Buddy... You gave me an Elden Ring lore video, one about mysteries at that... AND you used some old school Zelda music??
    My good man ❤

  • @evolutionground8946
    @evolutionground8946 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always assumed that the demigods in the mausoleums were killed in the war/fight against the gloam-eyed queen and godskins.

  • @ravencarino6115
    @ravencarino6115 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just had a funny headcannon
    The Lands Between is the only island in the planet that's still stuck in the medieval era.
    Every other continent has machine guns and mechs and technology.

  • @azel7056
    @azel7056 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hahahaha i still love that you sneak in a bit of Breath of the Wild in your background music like you have been for most of your other theorys

  • @FlymanMS
    @FlymanMS 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    And the answer to all of them: Fantasy Magic
    8:48 "Bruh"

  • @geekparkingonly2802
    @geekparkingonly2802 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are caskets near the melania boss room that look exactly like the wandering mausoleum caskets except they are clothed and have heads. They look suspiciously like the oracle envoys to me. And no one seems to talk about them!

  • @FaeQueenCory
    @FaeQueenCory 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Oh! I can tell you why the Gloameyed Queen had Destined Death.
    She was the previous god, bearer of the Elden Ring, before Marika.
    This is why she was a Queen.
    Her husband is Placidusax.
    And they did indeed serve The Greater Will.
    Placidusax's resting idle even mimicks the Two Fingers' stance in their communion with The Greater Will.

    • @Skrallizar
      @Skrallizar 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      The Gloameyed Queen is stated to have been an empyrian, which is a candidate chosen to POTENTIALLY replace the current god, but nowhere do they call her a "god" god, like Marika is. Being a Queen doesn't have to mean Queen of the Lands Between, just look at Rennala, Queen of Caria.

    • @Grimsly3736
      @Grimsly3736 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Skrallizar yeah idk why he also thinks she was married to Placidusax, like there is some connection with the Godskin Nobles having dragon tails but like I just think that’s because the Godskins were made in the Crucible

  • @AdrianMRyan
    @AdrianMRyan 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Regarding the dead demigods, I think you're really right to bring up that quote of Marika/Melina. I usually conceived of that as referring to the Shattering and all the demigods waring to become Elden Lord. But yeah, what if instead it is much earlier. Tarnished Archeologist's recent dive into the story depicted on the pillars of the Ancient Civilization below the Lands Between suggests a story of sacrifice. Maybe at some point earlier in history, sacrifice was a required part of nourishing the Erdtree (Greattree?). And in removing the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring, Marika would have had to change those practices.
    This also echos what Jack is a Mimic is looking into right now, suggesting that Marika actually was behind the Night of the Black Knives along with Ranni. Her needing to sacrifice a child once again for... some reason? A thing she'd done many times before, but maybe knowledge of these practices were locked in the Shadow Realm when it was sealed away.

  • @mrabiding9866
    @mrabiding9866 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the soulless demigods are the remains of what vyke and Bernhal (I think) have slain in order to acquire their great runes.

  • @berserkrequiemrenaissance2986
    @berserkrequiemrenaissance2986 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think they are not her kids just mimics or a homunculus of her blood since they have decorations are from the city of Norkron witch could be for necromancy and they mimic great runes which is why you can duplicate them

  • @finalbreath15
    @finalbreath15 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seeing the thumbnail, lately my question has been about the walking mausoleum corpses. I havent really heard many people mention it.

  • @dakmia8874
    @dakmia8874 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gonna save this video and come back after the DLC is over and see what we have answered. Probably nothing but I never thought about a lot of these points cuz I figured there wasn’t an answer to most things like who the outer gods are or what the Elden ring actually is and its purpose

  • @jamespurvis1481
    @jamespurvis1481 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t think that the mausoleum corpses are necessarily linked to Marika. I think that what Melina is saying to you is Marika tells her children that you need to seek power or else a tarnished will kill you (she did plan all of this stuff out and was a terrific mother lol)

  • @Spawn256
    @Spawn256 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just realized that destined death might be an imperfect version of the rune of death, which means the rune is connected to the formless mother. Basically it became its own cult because it needed a place in the universe or someone to worship it for its existence. Because it was already part of the natural part of the world and that is the result now that the rune of death is plucked from the rest of existence. And the Revelation about the mausoleums I'm not sure I've heard before.Thanks Bandit!

  • @smileyfrownupsidedown4989
    @smileyfrownupsidedown4989 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Did I hear you ask “what does the word “Elden” even mean?”
    It means old.

    • @MissMaiaa
      @MissMaiaa 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      He knows that and kind of referenced the definition. He just doesn’t know WHY it’s specified as “Elden”. How far back does it go? Why is it Elden when different gods have had their reign of order in the world?

    • @Darkheart00
      @Darkheart00 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@MissMaiaa as far as we know, the “ELDEN” Ring is the root of all life in Order. To have an Order is to have a Lord/representative to instal an order.
      Meaning, before the “ELDEN” Ring, there was no Lords or Gods or any of such titles you were referencing. It was the prehistoric era before the Age of the Prehistoric era. An era where intelligence did not exist, and hence, there were no lords or gods.
      Although there was life before, we can understand that the “ELDEN” Ring landed in the Lands Between giving life evolution, intelligence and the ability to harness the power for Order (Lords). The “ELDEN” Ring also attracted many external influences from cosmic deities (Gods) that weren’t here before the Landing of the Elden Ring
      TL;DR
      - There were no lords and gods before the “Elden Ring”, because there was nothing to influence before the Elden Ring reinforces order

  • @sonrider1369
    @sonrider1369 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think a cool theory i thought that could explain a few of these. The walking bell mausoleums contain the “demigod children.” Maybe Merika had these children with Godfrey, however due to them being unable or just dumb they werent able to achieve their goals. This makes them sacrifices and also gives merika motivation to leave godfrey and go with radagon.

  • @WillowProductions
    @WillowProductions 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "I wish this was more fleshed out"
    - Fleshed out.
    - Soulsborne.
    Pick one.

  • @theentmarch
    @theentmarch 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Speaking of the headless children in the mausoleums around several of these mausoleums are armies of headless soldier ghost and Knights. I've always guessed that this headless Army served sacrificed children in the mausoleums given their titles as mausoleum Knights and soldiers. But also it says in one of the descriptions that they beheaded themselves to serve their masters in death.

  • @gfearon9091
    @gfearon9091 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing ive noticed is that no one creating videos is using game of thrones or anything else from george rr martins writings to help come up with theories, he was a consultant/writer for this game & the outer gods remind me so much of the new gods worsphipped in GOT, i.e the father, the mother, the stranger, etc etc, just something to think about when your thinking of your next video idea.

  • @mischievousone9999
    @mischievousone9999 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, if the bell tower corpses exists to recall remembrances, maybe Marika figured she could utilize these lesser children to recreate the beings held within a remembrance, and perhaps with them a sort of facsimile of the rune shards of the elden ring. From there maybe she could have forged another perhaps different elden ring, one not beholden to the elden beast or other outer gods.

  • @Blockvard
    @Blockvard 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kitetales released a good video on the topic of the lost god of Placidusax

  • @rhynlock11
    @rhynlock11 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I saw somewhere that Marika banished the tarnished as she fed on strife and conflict, so when all her enemies disappeared she send them away to find more conflict and war. Godfrey knew he would eventually come back to her

  • @esther9433
    @esther9433 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sellen says: Glintstone is the amber of the cosmos, golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life and houses its vitality,while Glintstone contains residual life. I think these stones are where the magic comes from, not Gods. Some Gods might be related to magic but they don't necessarily create them.

  • @SpiritClown
    @SpiritClown 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not really a theory, but i have the following ideas:
    -As Gideon says when we kill him "Marika wants us to struggle eternally", essentially to fight. (but he was wrong about the fact that a tarnished can't become elden lord so...)
    -We know that there is a "golden lineage" which started with marika and godfrey and continued with godwyn the golden and their other children (at least the 2 omens) all the way to godefroy and godrick. I think they are distant descents of marika like great-great-granchildren or something.
    -The children of radagon and rennala are officially stated to be "demigod step-children" when radagon married marika so we know that, at least officially, one can become a demigod by marrying into the family of marika
    What I propose is the following thing: what if Marika and all her extended family are given the choice to be "god or lord" to create a struggle or war? apparently she wants there to be war all over. And could this be why she took grace from godfrey and the tarnished? they were the strongest warriors and army and there was no more war after their victories. So she and godfrey win against all their enemies and other gods (at least the giants had another god) and then there was peace, but marika doesn't want that (for whatever reason), so she sends away her army and creates a vacuum of power and she forces her demigods to fight between themselves. Whose who refuses are sacrificed. The ritual appears to be connected to the remembrance concept, as it happens in game so maybe... the sacrifice of a demigod can help to empower the great memories who are within the erdtree? Like a sacrifice to creare a more powerful warrior? Then, when all this demigods have finished with their war and have found some sort of equilibrium... then she awakens the tarnished. And here comes back her original army, ready to take another fight in the land between. To create an eternal war.

  • @eldenringpvpenthusiast1710
    @eldenringpvpenthusiast1710 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fourth church of marika stands out as an oddball to the other three. The others could be associated wither her first 3 royal children, but the fourth is very strange and ritualistic. I think it has to do with soul transposition after Godwyn died. We help Sellen nearby to move her soul to another body. Maybe Marika did something similar and soulless children accidentally happened because of it

  • @AkioJunichiro
    @AkioJunichiro 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always thought "Between" was for "Between sky/stars and depths"

  • @brysonjordan1075
    @brysonjordan1075 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loving the botw shrine music

  • @UnusualBox
    @UnusualBox 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I assumed the sacrifice of the unwanted demigods, allows their un-remember corps to be used to gain power to those more deserving. Nameless, but still with power from there lineage, they can now be used to duplicate more renowned Remembrances. Kept in ever Walking Mausoleum so their power, rune and souls don't rejoin the Erdtree before being used.

  • @Noodlepunk
    @Noodlepunk วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought some of the demigods were fighting/trying to avoid replacing Marika.

  • @van_tigranyan
    @van_tigranyan 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    About soulless demigods: Godwyn the golden is said to be the FIRST of demigods who was killed/died, so that implies that after him many more died or were killed, taking into account that when the game starts all demigods are still alive (kinda?), we only have these soulless demigods to think that died after Godwyn. BTW Godwyn is also referred to as Soulless comrade of Miquella, so this is another clue who these are.

    • @van_tigranyan
      @van_tigranyan 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To add to this, godskins are hunting demigods, so again who they killed and hunted if all demigods we know are alive? So we could only assume that Marika during her thousands of years of reign birthed hundreds if not thousands of children.

  • @tontulu420
    @tontulu420 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just hit my mind. You know those limbless gargoyles. Why are they limbless? Are they a victim of godrick?

  • @tontulu420
    @tontulu420 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They got 5 fingies and toes.
    Which reminds me of the DLC that lion thing. Got 5 toes like morgott.

  • @ollieliddell3868
    @ollieliddell3868 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One mystery I’ve been enjoying exploring is Ensha. We literally get no knowledge of who he actually is. But I have a theory that he used to be serving Mohg or the formless mother for many reasons I’ve discovered

    • @ollieliddell3868
      @ollieliddell3868 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So his weapon scales with arcane. all other arcane, weapons with a couple exceptions, are blood weapons. Also the gem on his helmet seems to perfectly match the gem on the sanguine noble hood, Mohg’s helpers. He is known to be related to the Haligtree quest line which of course involves Miquella, hence Mohg. He attacks us after we get the haligtree medallion which we of course assume as we are told is because mr all-knowing wanted it BUT maybe it’s actually for Mohg OR to prevent people getting to the haligtree. If it’s to prevent people getting there another detail that makes sense is that there is a candle on his chest armour, candles light the only way through the fog to the Haligtree, so that would be the perfect way to wait and ambush anyone trying to get to it. There’s also a few other links to Miquella and the albunaurics who are also to do with Miquella. The bones on the armour are golden and belonged to the lord of the “lost and desperate”, we know Miquella has a lot to do with golden things and others deemed lost and desperate would seek the haligtree. Also the only other weapons or armour that have anything to do with arcane (apart from I think 1 other) are albanuric weapons and armour.

    • @ollieliddell3868
      @ollieliddell3868 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Between all that and any mistakes I’ve made 😅 I think either the current Ensha or the person the bones belonged to must’ve had some relation to Mohg, Miquella and the formless mother. perhaps the lost and desperate lord sought out Miquella but ended up working with Mohg to do so and that’s how he has the red gem on his helmet

    • @ollieliddell3868
      @ollieliddell3868 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh also there’s theories Ensha is also ‘formless’ under the armour, so formless mother reference and I think the only arcane scaling bow is the one with the formless serpents description which makes me believe we’ll definitely have more on the formless mother in the DLC but that’s a whole other thing

  • @PopsTheCEO
    @PopsTheCEO 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember in the game it said something about demi gods began to fall 1 by 1. This was about the plot of the black knives. Godwyn it said was the 1st of the demi gods who was killed. This means other lesser demi gods were slain

  • @Ashe_3224
    @Ashe_3224 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always thought that the "soulless demigods" were simply demi gods that Marika had which weren't born with any power or strength. Below that of even Godrick, who used the power of Grafting to artificially make himself stronger. I subscribe to the theory that Marika (and the numan in general) are the same people as the Nox, so maybe she simply brought these artifacts to decorate the tomb of her children. Becuase, despite her not wanting them, she still had some love or maybe even just respect for her children

  • @kerpjosales1615
    @kerpjosales1615 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ugly babies were beheaded and turned into sacrifices because they could not achieve what they wanted to achieve in their own will, it is possible that Marika saw that as a weakness and gave such a petty punishment.

  • @dccrulez
    @dccrulez 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thought, are all demigods the direct children of marika or can they also be descendants? I always thought the grafted was a descendant suggesting a degree of a demigod bloodline and those in the mausoleums could be seen as forsaken children sacrificed to marika herself

  • @SocraTetris
    @SocraTetris 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe i misheard you, but I dont think ghostflame was enabled by destined death. Been a while since i engaged with the lore, but ghostflame was a thing before the Elden Beast / Elden Ring came to TLB. So the great runes wouldnt have existed to be the laws of reality yet either, yeah?

  • @Night-Lord
    @Night-Lord 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wanted to clarify one thing: the outer god of rot≠the goddess of rot. Malenia is a vessel for the outer god of rot, in the same way Marika is for the Elden Ring. We know this because we know of at least one other god of rot, the scorpion god sealed by the blind swordsman. He later teaches Malenia, and I doubt that could've happened if she was already sealed away. We can also safely assume that he didn't seal the actual outer god because the outer gods would by definition exist on a different plane of existence, and thus be beyond such triflings.

  • @ravirs1187
    @ravirs1187 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video :)

  • @Confuzledish
    @Confuzledish 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just a theory - The Elden Ring has been shattered, taken apart, etc. Now that it is broken, it can not be restored to its former glory. In Dark Souls, one of the major themes is 'restoring the flame.' I feel that Marika is trying to restore the Elden Ring, that the runes are decaying over time. The point of having all these children is for them to grow, gain power, and then be used to embolden the Elden Ring. This is also why the Tarnished where exiled: they live lives of hardship and then return in a battle-royale so that the strongest of them can 'restore' the Elden Ring for a time.

  • @williamsaling9648
    @williamsaling9648 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Outer Gods are simply outside the current order, but all capable of becoming the next Merkia in one form or another. Through a through a demigod is the way we are told is possible.

  • @weed_houze
    @weed_houze 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:09 Elden Beast. In a boss fight it can do grab. After grabbing it crucifies player on rune arc exactly like Marika, impales you with exactly same red spears

  • @MossOwnsYouYT
    @MossOwnsYouYT 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So, the Tarnished being driven from the lands between comes from their rebellious and war-like nature. They were used to conquer all the land they could and eventually were no longer needed. You could go as far to say the Tarnished even became a liability. With no more wars to wage, the Tarnished could become rebellious and unruly, so were sent away with Hourah Loux to somewhere their savagery could flourish. At least thats how it's always read across to me, especially considering that everyone seems to know what Tarnished are fated to do.

  • @Kippers_
    @Kippers_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a feeling either Melina or messmer could be that unwanted child. We know little of both, but enough to know that Melina is potentially the gloam eyed queen, and I wholly believe they could be twins, just like miquella and malainia, and morgott and mohg. Melina, after having the rune of death stolen from her, was then subsequently killed, burned and bodiless as she says, but could've reborn as a sort of spirit, not yet lost, and able to aid the player in her journey to remember who she was (which she does in the frenzy flame definitely). Messmer on the other hand, could've been unwanted not by his desires to not be a god or Lord, but because like another comment said, he could've tried doing Marika a favor and burned the Greattree down to make way for the big golden Erdtree we see today. This, as the commenter also said, could be the reason burning the Erdtree is seen as a cardinal sin, and also why snakes are seen as blasphemous

  • @JustaSmilingHedgehog
    @JustaSmilingHedgehog 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The one thing which always irked me is the red spear jutting out of Marika, it has a similar but not identical color to the destined death Maliketh uses. Considering Mesmers weapon will most likely be a spear and his teasing of using these really dark red colored flames I think it could have some correalation to him.

  • @willsmith5935
    @willsmith5935 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:44 yeah, I'm gonna guess the Flame of the "Fell God" originates from an Outer God.

  • @marshallduquette5537
    @marshallduquette5537 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The walking mausoleums also have the same architectural style....so maybe their origin steams from the Eternal Cities.

  • @astro1013
    @astro1013 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a theory about the Moseleums. So as most might of heard it is very likely for Messmer to be a son of Marika and Radagon and he is cursed with fire like how Malenia has scarlet rot. With Messmers fire he burnt down the great tree for the Erd tree to grow ( as stated by others already). Doing so is a cardinal sin therefore Marika had to sacrifice him to perform a ritual where instead of fully dying he went to the shadow of the erd tree. Due to there being multiple moseleoums and multiple dead demigods I believe the Nokrons, who’s chests and artefacts where in the room cloned his body to complete the ritual potentially. Sorry for rambling on please be welcome to fill in the probably many holes in this theory.

  • @SlickDangler10
    @SlickDangler10 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wanna know more about tannith once she starts eating rykard...what about the dancing castenets

  • @benedictprove3937
    @benedictprove3937 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm gonna put forward a bit of an in-depth theory about the soulless demigods. In short, I think that they are Marika's children from before Godfrey, and maybe before she ascended to godhood (Godfrey is referred to as the first Elden Lord, but this does not preclude Marika having any other relations prior to becoming a god).
    We start with the Nox. They are referred to in the shortened item descriptions (and older full item descriptions) as of the "empyrean family", and implied to be Marika's descendants. Important to note the word empyrean, so implying before Marika's ascension to godhood. This would also coincide with how Gowry calls the Sellians (who have heavy ties with the eternal cities) "descendants of the Eternal", the title being shortened from queen Marika the eternal since she is maybe not queen at this time.
    So how exactly are the Nox related to Marika? Well, we can look to other known children of Marika outside the golden lineage. As mentioned, there is a spirit near one of the wandering mausoleums talks of the mausoleum cradling a "soulless demigod, Marika's unwanted child", but the older 1.0 version of the spirit's text gives us a better clue. It refers to the soulless demigod as a bastard. Stands to reason then that this demigod is not of her union with Godfrey or Radagon, which opens the possibility that the Nox aren't either.
    So who could have fathered these soulless demigods? Well the only named character referred to as "soulless", other than Godwyn, is Ensha. Could be that Ensha was known as the soulless king in, say, the land of shadow or the land of the numen (at least before Marika came to the lands between), and fathered these soulless demigods with Marika, but that's a bit of a guess. It's equally as likely that Ensha and Marika founded the eternal cities together, and there's some theories that there's still an unknown figure that the Nox revered, and Ensha would fit that spot nicely.
    There are a couple bits of evidence that Ensha may be the Lord of Night that the Nox are waiting for as well. This would also tie in to how they could be related (by blood). For instance, Ensha has definite ties to the eclipse, which could with some imaginative liberties be construed as "night". First, a spirit in Castle Sol says "surrender yourself to the eclipse! Grant life to the soulless bones!". Given the specific use of the term bones, chances are this refers to Ensha or one of his descendants rather than Godwyn. The spirit at the top of Castle Sol also says "Lord Miquella, forgive me. The sun has not been swallowed. Our prayers were lacking. Your comrade remains soulless..." which may tie Ensha to Miquella's plans. It would make more sense than this referring to Godwyn, since based on the previous ghost in Castle Sol, there is specific mention of bones, and they want to bring life to this soulless demigod, whereas Miquella wishes for Godwyn to "die a true death". Also, the Eclipse Crest Heater Shield description states that "the sun in eclipse is said to be the symbol of the Wandering Mausoleums where the soulless demigods slumber".
    Now, if we do a bit of datamining, we find that the tibia mariners are internally referred to as "Night King's kin". This could also be related to Ensha, since the tibia mariners are heavily related to death and I believe that Ensha is somewhere referred to as the king of death, but if not there is definitely some kind of allusion there either way. The clinging bone weapon wielded by Ensha also has a skill that "drains the life" of a foe, and obviously there's the fact that Ensha is almost always referred to in relation to his skeleton. This would therefore maybe tie to the twin aspects of Ensha as a lord of death and to the potential "night" resulting from a solar eclipse.
    I suspect that in her ambition to control the cycle of life and death, and by removing the removing the rune of death from the Elden Ring, Marika took away Ensha's role in death and the afterlife, or at least cut his influence from the lands between (perhaps relating to how the land of shadow in the DLC was said to have been separated from the lands between?)
    There's a few other implications of this theory, particularly relating to Miquella's plans and the development of the Haligtree as well, but this comment is already long enough.

  • @NoSuchMachine
    @NoSuchMachine 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There might be a more specific reason for Marika's actions, but I think it kind of boils down to her realizing conflict and disparity are kind of the main actuating forces of the universe. Without it, we are kind of left in an entropic state where no dynamic action can happen, which is why she actively ends her "Eternal" age, and why Gideon Says she wants everyone to struggle.
    To compare to Dark Souls, The Firekeeper in DS3 refers to Gwyn and the others as "Great Lords of Disparity" because they were the ones who created all the dynamic forces in the universe. However, their inability to embrace the change they established created the whole issue with the Age of Dark, which is the new entropic state they are creating by not allowing any energy to properly flow into a new system, but it's that lack of balance and certainty that makes the world capable of existing in the first place.
    Bringing it back to Elden Ring, I think it was Gold Mask that theorizes that what the Greater Will was after wasn't order, but a perfect evil to contend with; because we exist through challenges and change, and order is just a means to that end.

  • @MrRagingAntibody
    @MrRagingAntibody 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A small theory:
    Marika shattered the ring to remove the rune of death, by doing so, she was unable to die in the process of removing it which otherwise should have killed her (a paradox of sorts) but because its like a link in an oroboros style chain, she had to use herself in order to keep the rest of the runes from being destroyed. this caused her to kind of split in two, one forever imprisoned as the for lack of better words, "ring bearer", the one holding it all together, and the other free to continue enacting her plans. The reason for all this is she possibly learned of the order of balance created by the greater will, beings like Marika would be given great power to shape realities and create, but that would be balanced by them eventually having to die and pass it along to the next generation, which in turn would make it so they could never get so powerful as to overthrow or replace The Greater Will. like a big insurance policy, um.. best example is like Blade Runner or so, where the androids would eventually die after x amount of years so they wouldn't live forever and be able to replace humanity, and instead need to keep them around to fix them or extend their life in exchange for service. The Greater Will here gives the abilities to create and such, but demands loyalty, worship, whatever you wanna call it. Marika most likely learned of this, that she wasn't a true god in that sense, and tried to override that cycle by shattering the constraints that bound her but it had consequences she wasn't ready for. This ties into why she would strip the power of her husband and the golden order, because just like the greater will, she saw them gaining power and triumphing and well what if they rose up against her, they could quite possibly dethrone her, so she cut off the head of the snake before it could do so. This in turn though, left her weak, vulnerable, as her husband became sort of a martyr and inadvertently sparked the rebellion she was afraid of, so, she ressurrected him and etc. beyond that, i dont know, but this is my best guess of what kind of happened before the events of the main game.

    • @MrRagingAntibody
      @MrRagingAntibody 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      as for the soul-less, and the sacrificing. i think by having them sacrifice themselves, it returned a bit of the power that was instilled in them from her bloodline, back into her, like kind or a regeneration thing. I think you're right on the money about the demanding loyalty and having them be effective as part of her plans, anyone who was free thinking, according to my first theory, would be a threat to her. However, I also think she was trying to find someone or create someone that could possibly take her place holding the shattered remains together, so she could essentially swap places and be free herself once again, back to full power so to speak, and that unlike with her first husband, each new attempt was less and less successful, like making a copy or a copy of a copy. And so she had them sacrifice themselves or whatever, to take back the power she had spent creating them, but each time, it didn't full return to her, maybe part of it was absorbed by the erd tree or whatever else, which is why there are remnants of those soul less moving about.

  • @samis1370
    @samis1370 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are 7 walking mauselums and on the godskin nobles robes are 7 faces. And each of the bodies in the nauseluems are missing their heads. Maybe they stole their skins to make their godskin clothes?

  • @goatperson3403
    @goatperson3403 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont really have a lot of evidence for this, but I like to believe that Placidusax's god was in fact the Elden Beast, which left to become the Elden Ring

    • @GiordanoBruno42
      @GiordanoBruno42 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I believe that placidusax's God was the sun, which is why the sun is so small and irrelevant in elder Ring's skybox and lore.
      But I like your idea too :)

  • @monroerobbins7551
    @monroerobbins7551 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:52 don’t forget Chaos! As for the fell god, I think that’s the god of the fire giants, and gravity magic is something with Raya Lucaria, same with Glintstone.

  • @johannessmith1369
    @johannessmith1369 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:37 I'd go with the Primeval Current being associated with glintstone instead of the Dark Moon. The Dark Moon already has its own spell.

  • @corymill4583
    @corymill4583 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think the fallen god refers to messmer

  • @fivehandsmash780
    @fivehandsmash780 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im sure the Mausoleums demigods are what we are going to be fighting in the dlc

  • @toothpaste9661
    @toothpaste9661 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm pretty sure that Ensha (the one that attacks us) was sent by Gideon to retrieve half of the Secret Medallion after we get it, so he only attacks after we obtain it.

  • @ErnestoCifer
    @ErnestoCifer 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually the rune of death, black flame and ghost flame are entirely different things. Ghost flame's origin comes from a pre-removal of the rune of death cult worshipping the death rite birds and it was created by burning the bones of the dead to help them pass along. Black flame originates from the Gloam Eyed Queen amd the gods slayer blade, and lost it's god killing property once the rune of death was removed from the Elden Ring

  • @gabrieldudar
    @gabrieldudar 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ensha tries to kill you beacuse he was orderd to do so by gidion who wanted the haligtree medalion for himself. Thats why ensha only tries to kill you AFTER you get the secret halig tree medalion from the old man at the albenuric villige.
    fun fact about ensha: Ensha is on the front page of elden ring. Ensha is laying on the ground close to vyke

  • @mukelson
    @mukelson 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "between" means in the middle of something, and for be in the middle you have to have at least 2 things at your sides . we now know one land of the shadows, but shouldn't be one more left? that assuming the land of shadow is not a part of the lands between

  • @DasWedda
    @DasWedda 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is the Red Star as another Elder God, from the bloodthorne magic

  • @jameslucas2828
    @jameslucas2828 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    St. trina might be the corepse thats in the dlc trailer and might be a boss btw

  • @Paulafan5
    @Paulafan5 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got the vibe that the Lands Between is basically Purgatory. It also seemed like a doomed world to me. Everywhere you go, things are in ruins or decay, and about to crumble. Even Leyndell has sand build up (before you kill Maliketh, there's a lot of it already there. Guess they don't have janitors there; only a thousand knights). There are broken down villages, and very few "people" left. Even if you "win", win what? Elden Lord of a broken world.

  • @zackdoom
    @zackdoom 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mesmer
    Is not just mesmer, perhaps

  • @agxryt
    @agxryt 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im just realizing that Ranni and Radahn were the children of Radagon and Rennala - but that at the time, Radagon wasnt Marika - neither parent was a God. How exactly are they demi-gods then? How exactly was this justified to the people of the lands between, who didnt know Radagon was (eventually) Marika?

  • @kalebgreen4521
    @kalebgreen4521 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gideon tells the player basically indirectly that he sent ensha to kill u but he got ahead of himself and practically apologizes in his behalf if his actions.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought that was obvious that Gideon sent him to kill you. When you survived, he then uses you to find out about various characters. It's one of the biggest failings of the game that Gideon's story ends so quickly with one of the easiest fights in the second half of the game. I feel like there could have been a lot more story to Gideon...

    • @JohnQueSacc
      @JohnQueSacc 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Paulafan5 I kinda always saw the easy fight as showing how he was so obsessed with stalking us and taking advantage but he couldn't replicate out strength without the actual experience.