I fell in love when I was young and we lost our virginity together. When we broke up I was devastated and felt so unwanted and unlovable. The easiest way to feel wanted and “loved” became through sexual relations. When they didn’t want a relationship after it just reinforced my negative belief that I was unlovable and unwanted. So I became the “predator” of sexual relations and would leave so it made me feel like I was hurting them before they could hurt me. It led me to be numb emotionally and have a conquest mentality, which seeped into other areas of my life. So glad I found God and changed my life around.
This goes back to the adage of fathers keeping their sons out of jail and their daughters off the pole. It's so important for children to have a strong father in the home, especially early on. All sorts of important life outcomes are shaped by this sole variable.
My father was home but hyper-critical and emotionally vacant/treated me like a guy. Guess what I was desperate to find in a man… A dad being home doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be taught the right things.
My father was hard charging and masculine. My brothers and I fished and hunted early, fought even earlier. Graduated to consuming alcohol and girls in our teens. Jail turned out to be a vacation from busting hump at the local meat packing plant we worked. My sister was just as rowdy and independent. Strong fathers making strong children doesn't always hold true.
Exceptions don't make the rule. Children need fathers! If you had a bad one, that is life. It doesn't mean that children don't need their fathers and mothers.
I find it annoying that a grown woman can use her sexuality to gain material advantage, and after the fact, once all gains have been had, she can be painted with the victim brush. Just looked it up and she was 22-23 when she posed for those photos. Does personal agency _ever_ apply in these situations?
She was also pasionate reader of books, had lot of books. They say she was talking to Einstein. She had higher IQ than Einstein about 165. and she said something to Einstein that if they had kids together, the kid would get her beauty and his wisdom. Einstein said the kid would probly get my beauty and your Marylin wisdom.
I’ll give them sympathy when they relinquish all of the money they gained from their self prostitution. Same applies to OnlyFans and literal porn girls (Lana Rhodes, for example, has recently called for her videos to be taken down because she is starting a family 😂)
3:35 With all due respect to everyone, we are way too focused on men who consensually use women for casual sex. It's not good, but that obsession makes no sense when we simultaneously utterly fail to address far worse instances of female sexual predation. Female teachers who statutorily grape their minor students face a fraction of the punishment a man would. Women who lie about using birth control to deceive a man into getting her pregnant still profit by getting full child support awards. Then there's the completely ignored problem of paternity fraud. This is all sexual predatory behavior, and of a far worse character than hook-up culture because it does far more damage to the victim than leaving them feeling used. These things have real, often decades long impact on the victim; and yet we do virtually nothing about it. Maybe once we've started taking female sexual predation seriously, and punishing it according to its seriousness, we can go back to clutching our pearls over folks who were merely made to feel icky for a day or two.
You are uncommonly articulate and remarkably persuasive. Your comment was a very well constructed piece of advocacy that I wholeheartedly endorse. Thank you for shining a light on this far more serious issue that appears to get almost no attention at all because it is inconsistent with the “female victim/male perpetrator“ paradigm. In particular, paternity tests should be mandatory before any hospital employee writes a father‘s name onto a birth certificate. Blood tests are required before people can marry to protect each party from the other‘s sexual misconduct that manifests as a sexually transmissible disease, so paternity tests should be required before shackling a man to the financial burdens of fatherhood. This will avoid the injustice of a man‘s resources being extracted from him involuntarily to support another man‘s child (it also protects that other man who may otherwise never know that he has fathered a child; this may be that other man’s only shot at fatherhood and a woman‘s ability to keep him ignorant is also an injustice). What rational basis can there possibly be for objecting to this??? Only a woman with something to hide would fear a paternity test, and such a woman is not deserving of concealment or protection.
And you fail to see this as a consequence of male deranged sexual behavior due to sexual revolution. As women felt more and more fragile, not empowered, through casual sexual activity, they started to fear men. Also a father figure who is an early stereotype of men's uncontrolled lust and promiscuity, has an impact. If you watch Sex and the City, a series which in the 90' virtually celebrated female sex empowering, it is actually fuelled with fear: they just pretend it is ok, life is fabulous, but it's not. Like Monroe. I'm not saying women are all innocent, but the derangement in their sexual behavior, like hypergamy, was surely caused by a society coming suddenly avoidant of responsabile reproductive behavior and fulfilling relationships.
Men casually using women for sex then discarding them is just as generationally damaging as the things you’ve described. It’s not merely “making someone feel icky for a few days.” A father *always* leads his house, even when his chair is empty.
Lol, I'm not an Englisch speaker and far less eloquant than the both of you but do wholeheartedly agree with both of you. The sexual revolution did nothing more than take out fathers from theire families and made the state the head of woman and childeren. Make families great again and reinstate the traditional gender roles before this world ends in a childless cesspool of androgene statedrones who will fight anyone over who is the biggest victim.
Both male and female should seek to build value and solve problems. Acknowledge a sole Creator and live according to their holy book to the best of their ability.
I’m not saying women can’t be problem solvers or have utility value, but generally speaking there is much less need for them to have user traits than men. A man is judged almost exclusively on his ability to problem-solve and have utility. If a man doesn’t have these things, his odds of finding a woman who is willing to pass on his bloodline is severely reduced. Women by and large can get by with their beauty and charm. They’re still more than capable of having utility and problem-solving, but the cost for them not having it is much less than it is for men. I agree we should all seek a sole creator and unite under the banner of spirituality though.
Monotheism isn't great either. Painting the spiritual as black&white, good and evil, is incredibly small-minded and childish. Many things exist in the realms beyond what mankind can conceive, and they are just as morally grey and complex as we are.
@@jaredschmidt8013 This is where I have to solemnly disagree with your premise. What you and many other men still don't seem to get is that the economic landscape of today is a lot more expansive and diverse. In basic terms; women no longer need men for money or resources. Never in the history of man kind has their been a time where women could, for the most part, live independently from a man for her survival. Women are seeking men for other reasons now. Namely good genetics for their offspring
@@itachi_blvckitachi_blvck-jq6pf Also romance, feeling loved, having an attractive companion to share life with - are pretty high on most women's list. By "attractive" I mean the deeper chemistry men and women can feel. It's good that women don't have do depend on men for money; gold digging was a bigger problem in the past when women HAD to find a man to support her and the kids.
@@jaredschmidt8013 Thanks for the post. Throughout history, both men and women have problem solved and have contributed to family and community by building value for others. This ability is not gender centered. Both must contribute 100%/100%. Divorce is 50%/50%. Roles and responsibilities can be diverse and each relationship can determine who does what but make no mistake, money needs to be earned, beds made, dishes washed, car oil changed, etc. That has to be done through communication, ability and agreement. That’s initially the struggle; who does what? That’s why faiths are so important; you don’t have to reinvent the wheel per se. Those who came before you suffered similar struggles and we can learn from them how they made it through.
I'm 26 and STILL waiting until marriage, the world respexts but does not appreciate this kind of patience and dedication. Men and women are lost and regardless of the pain it costs me I will not engage in the 'let's see how it goes' mentality.
Replace looking for love for looking for someone who respects and appreciates you results in finding LOVE that lasts. Maintain and expand social groups with the same values. Avoid the casual dating sites, there will be nothing there for you. Maintain your values and pursue your purpose. Winning isn’t finding a mate, winning is finding a forever mate.
No girls from conservative and religious societies appreciate it a lot there are many conservative girls you can find in middle east there are some Christian girls there
Dr. Peterson, thank you for uploading this conversations to your TH-cam channel, knowing very well you can charge for these videos. As a youth director for a nonprofit organization, these topics are extremely relevant to the issues we face in our communities in south Texas (specifically border towns).
I love your videos a lot Jordan Peterson, it has help me as a growing intellectual and young man in this Vast changing society in America among my peers “Gen Z “ . Thank you and I hope to have the opportunity to come to one of your live events one day! 🙏🏾
As a young man, I'm done listening to topics about this. Nothing will change on the short term. The current generation of women have accepted sexual promiscuity, and modern dating is a hazard. Better for a regular man to focus his attention and prioritize on the pursuit of success. The chances of finding a "good" woman are slim to none. Let modern women enjoy the choices they've made
It could be said the same for men. As a 27 year old virgin compare to others in my family and friends group even just society I notice these women who show off more find multiple partners but I can’t even find one. They say more men are becoming conservative but I’m struggling to see it. the good ones(men and women) are too far and in between. I personally keep my head down and go about my day.
@stacy-annmorgan6685 If you haven't seen a "good" man within your environment, that just tells me you're in the wrong neighborhood. Most women only flock to the top percentile man, while the majority of men who are willing to be a "good" husband aren't given the opportunity or are just used.
@ I actually pay good money to live in a good neighbourhood. I go to church and see no young men. Only the big churches have these weak men in it. Nobody knows how to meet these days. I attempted to date for the first time the guy saying he was a Christian turned around and was ready to call me a liar. I left.
@@stacy-annmorgan6685 I don't know your exact situation, but you and I might have different meanings for what a "good" man is. If you're paying good money to be in an organization to look for a partner, I would assume you're also looking for a top percentile man. I wish you luck.
@ no it’s a small church we don’t pay to be there. Took me a long time to find a church that was biblical sound. I’m not rich I just choose to actually pay good money not to live in the ghetto.
Marylin acted out the anima all the time. She lacked power in her own life so her power drive was became empowered when she realized she could seduce men by acting out the anima. This is destructive to both men and herself. Marylin wanted men to be at her feet due to her own sense of inferiority, but remained unhappy because no one loves Norma Jean, but loves Marylin Monroe. Men love her image but not her, so she ends up being quite lonely underneath. It's not just about looks in Marylin's case, but during that time period time the blonde bombshell was the social expectation of beauty. Now when a man projects his feminine image onto a another human being this is a project of his "anima". Many men projected the anima onto Marylin. This is why Monroe could "turn on" Marylin or keep it "turned off" and stay Norma Jean. Anima projection is often associated with love at first sight or the instantaneous feeling of a crush. She became the collective anima projection for many men who saw the culmination of their mother and the mother archetype (a collective unconscious archetype as powerful as the hero).
@@ingrid5944 If you let yourself be used, that's your fault. Men don't want women that have been had by other men. If you don't want to be used, you demand a ring before you give anything up at all.
she was BPD. She did what she did because she could not work a job, NOR could she obey any of her 3 husbands. People took advantage of her BPD and she destroyed all the men who loved her. Ask Joe.
SHe si not poor, she is an adult woman who can make her own decisions. are women empowered or not??.... you can not be empowered and then a poor victim at the same time. most women chose that, they are not victims they are just experiencing the result of their actions.
She was a very smart woman that was only seen by her looks. She wanted attention, and she was smart, so she got it from one perspective, the perspective of beauty. But she was not emotionally intelligent, unfortunately. She was used till she was dead. I wish I could find her and talk to her and give her a big hug! She had a lovely soul! She just wanted to be loved and to have a loving husband and a family 😢
Don’t forget the intense competition among some women to attract attention from a desirable male. It’s like selling a product but they don’t know it. And sadly, some drop out of the competition all together because they feel they can’t compete. It’s all so twisted.
That's life. Surviving and thriving in life is all about what you can offer to others for the best arrangement. Our beauty, our bodies, our youth, our intelligence are all tools to hopefully help us survive in this vast, cruel world.
@@TheOlzeeblue haired liberals have decreed no sex while trump is in office. Which is hilarious, simply because if they had that sense of discipline, abortion wouldn’t have been their primary concern regarding voting 😂rights
From deep inside the stupid camp, I’d like to thank you Dr Peterson, for making explicit statements. It’s what most men want and, among the more stupid, myself included, it’s what we need.
In marriage the emotional intimacy is more important than the fashion stuff. like when she knows what kind of food he likes, what music or art h elikes, what vaction he likes, who he is inside of his head, not just outside looks. How can she love amn if she doesnt know who he is in his own head, what music he likes etc the ordinary stuff are to ordinary in emotional intimacy man probably also has similar feelings he doesnt fall just with her looks but what she likes, what books she likes, what music , art , food etc. Because if thjey dont share these ordinary stuff, they may feel like they are married to a robot.
I think this is for a certain kind of person. I don't care if my partner knows what kind of food I like. I need a mind mate...someone with an intellect that can keep up with mine and has its own original ideas. There's a lot of individuality in what people need in a partner.
@@saintsword23 If you're a man, your mind-mate will be another man. You will not find a woman that is both able to keep up with you and wishes to be loyal to you.
In a culture where women can have social protection, economic means etc. Dr. Peterson's theory doesn't wash. It is personal vulnerability that causes the issue and not external forces. Lack of character in other words.
I think the idea behind his 'Economic Theory' is that historically that is how culture has developed so far. It's pretty recent in human history where we have economic and social protections.
I have read the 12 Rules...i felt at the time the book to be one of enlightenment, perhaps because i don't read well, consistently. Myself, i am attracted to beautiful woman. My mistakes made during the sexual revolution have followed me. I look for history and perhaps knowledge itself, to find answers and even solutions. Just a random thought on the topic...what of those humans of ancient times? Those of Sodom and G..., they played with sexual trials and not for the better. And today, in modern times, we are tested as human souls, once again. I can only hope and pray, for Christ as savior, to save us from our sinful humanity.
With respect, Dawn, everyone is entitled to their feelings. But I think, on balance, I‘d rather listen to Peterson, a research based clinical psychologist
People want to take advantage. That’s the problem. When people see a girl/woman like Marylyn they could think “something’s not right here, maybe she’s been abused or is unsafe somehow” but instead that sort of Satan gets inside them and they think about how they can profit from it, exploit it, etc. They go to satisfying desires of the flesh. She has a sort of appeal where she’s a glamorous/famous girl, but at the same time would fight for the underdog, because of her tough background. And that’s basically where Hollywood ends and pornography begins, where they have desirable girls who seem even more available, more desperate, etc. (and perhaps more abused, more helpless) and consumers begin to care less about the actual person in the movie. Hollywood and pornography also push the corruption of innocence in a sense, but they don’t actually portray this directly. Instead they make the adults seem more young, or make the young seem more like adults. Making them more bonded to the adult figures than would be typical of a normal life. Even characters like Annie, from that classic movie. She seems a bit more adult than a girl in that sort of vulnerable situation would be in real life.
The problem is, a vulnerable girl is wife material. A vulnerable girl that's had lots of men is not. Once you go down that path, being used is all you're good for.
Unfortunately many people are exploited by others. Women for their physical attributes, men for their emotional attributes. If I had photos of my body circulated that didn't make me a cent but made me beloved and desired by the opposite sex, I might not mind so much. Having my emotions exploited for the thrill of attention and ego boost by others leaving me not with everlasting iconic status but just a broken heart wouldn't be my preferred option.
I always find it noteworthy when top down feminists like the Perry advocate for traditional marriage and the nuclear family but not the changing of laws that savaged both. She never speaks to the impossible position men find themselves in with modern relationships and the financial, legal and societal realities that accompany them. I view her sanctimonious twaddle with extreme caution. Her rather dramatic feigning of empathy is up there with Amanda Knox.
Frankly, I'm amazed that such people have their views regarding traditional marriage, maintain their ideology, and have no clue that said ideology is counter to the family. They want to eat their cake and have it. If you listen to Mona Charon's Aspen Institute talk, she tells you 2nd Wave was anti-family. If you hear of Charles Fourier and look at his sentiments, you realize the anti-family issue goes to before the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention. Some want to keep something that undermines society on such a level that demographics are undermined across the board in first world areas and those approaching first world status.
@allisterwhitehead. I find it typical of modern men, that you only care about men. Does that mean modern men are gay? with how they hate women and sympathize with men? Your sanctimonious twaddle is a lot like P Diddy.
@@SwaeTech I'll not saying she was unattractive, just not over the top. The whole "cutesie" naivety with the cover girl looks would actually turn a reasonably intelligent guy with scruples off. Just my opinion.
IMO she was more attractive with no make up or minimum of make up in her civil life than as her fake, dolled-up, overdone alter ego persona for the cameras.
The sexual revolution has been something that I've given some thought to. Particularly when it comes to our society and it's attitude towards sex. One could say the sexual revolution was a good thing, where society breaking free from theological tyranny, yet others are saying it's bad because it was the beginning of a more debauched society and the breakdown of the western civilization. Could it be this promiscuous attitude that may have normalised today's single parenting? This has been something I've wondered about when noticing a lot of the people similar age to me and grew up with in the 90's were raised in a single parent household and their dysfunction. Then having this discussion with my own parents and them saying that it was looked down on or pittied, through a tragic loss, when they were growing up in the 70's. But then you have many of these single parents once had a partner and for some reason their relationship broke down. Which brings me to ask, what is wrong with the fairy tale happy ever after when it comes to finding that someone and settling down with kids at an early age?
Look around at people in general. Most of them are dysfunctional, weren't raised all that well, and have psychological problems. A lot of people are selfish and hard to get along with. Happy long term relationships require mentally stability and 2 people who are kind and giving. That's not most our society. I knew a couple married 20 years or more who would gaze into each other's eyes and act like they were just starting to date. They were also very kind people with unusually good character.
Women feel ‘empowered’ when they take control of their sexuality (aka sleep around without judgment), yet after all is said and done they claim to be victims to the men they consensually slept with. They’ll say they’re victims because of an age imbalance (even though they did this in their twenties), or due to a power imbalance (even though they chased men with power), or due to regret (even though they willingly took on the action, such as Monroe willingly taking photos for money and signing a contract selling over rights thanks these photos). What kind of ‘empowerment’ is this if someone can claim to not have agency even though they’re adults of consenting age??
Its really interesting that all this discourse assumes that the over 8 billion people in the world want to live their lives the same which is so fascinating also the double standards are equally interesting.
Not condoning what happened: Marilyn was paid by the photographer for the photos and did the shoot because she needed money. Leaving the photographer to do with them what he will.
She was also in her twenties when she did this! At which point do women take responsibility for their agency?? But then if a woman in her early twenties decides to do pornography they’ll call it ‘empowerment’??
I've kind of stopped listening to Louise Perry ever since she said that she got "The Ick" while listening to men talking about their problems in "The Red Pill" documentary in her podcast episode with Cassie Jaye.
The price is the slow collapse of what goes into creating and maintaining what lies beneath the foundation of human society itself, irregardless of the civilization.
On Marilyn's "childlike" presentation and early sexual maturity. I believe puberty can signal the end of growth, height. Do those who mature earlier retain childish features other than short stature?
I am impressed with Dr. Peterson’s Christian Nietschean unique perspective. But I do find his mostly unequivocal embrace of Elon Musk a bit odd - he’s among the most successful males on the planet and (predictably) lives as a functional polygynist, as a tribal chieftain would have in years past. I realize that he prefers Mr Musk to weak people who don’t have his options - he is still a polygynist.
is it really the female that has far more at stake when she is waiting to be provided for and protected by a male engaged in her defense even at the risk of his health and life? I don't think so
Well, "Yea".....but the people who voted for him don't care. Most of them can't even spell 'narcissist', let-alone understand why it might be bad in leadership.
Are "girls without fathers" who hit puberty one year earlier predominantly of African heritage? I understand that (on average of course) people of African ancestry sexually mature earlier than Europeans.
Sounds like the parasitic manipulator, resembles the entire mainstream culture of the last 10-15 years. And most young women, might have adapted this kind of strategy as a result, to some extent. Also, this change seems to have largely resulted in widespread distrust of social systems, and distrust of culture in general. In much the same way, that distrust results from mistreatment of individuals, by individual bad actors, at the microcosmic level of interrelationships.
💯 it also doesn’t help they most women are whores now so dudes simply don’t care to have relations with them beyond sexual ones. So, I disagree with Jordan here in that men have dark tetrad when they sleep around for fun since he’s not mentioning that it’s common sense to not want relations with hoes lol
Looking back almost 60 years to my teenage years, I was only interested in the short term strategy. All of the “cool” kids were skilled at this and revered for it. Fortunately I wasn’t emotionally or psychologically adept at it. But I can see that had I been, it would have been very easy to slip into Machiavellian patterns of behavior due to immaturity. I would guess that this was the case for so many others. Today’s social media pandemic that teens are enmeshed in serves the same master. So many of my students display hard core narcissistic traits; it’s a scary direction they are going in. There’s no mechanism to limit how far they go down that hole in the ground.
Why cant people just ride the eunich revolution? We just got to admit it sometimes that not many of us should have children and the world will be a better place.
Seems to me the short term sex partner folk should be alarmed at the idea they are mating. They are not doing it for the sake of bringing about new life.
Damit would someone adress these CELL TOWERS not and when you see the abomination of desolation set up as the wholy place / governance. How do you so!ve the pressures not adressing vice!
Dr Peterson, you're wrong about Holly Madison, who was one of Hugh Hefner's "bimbos". She's clearly really smart. Read her book. Furthermore, Hefner never met Marilyn Monroe (aka Norma Jean) in person.
I just love the amazing and beautiful landscape of a gorgeous womans body. I've travelled many places and seen amazing sights and breathtaking scenes but nothing compares to the naked body of a beautiful woman. I am happily married and do not cheat on my wife. As a younger man i have absolutely no regret about the wonderful times i spent with women and the vivid memories i hold. Their beauty and passion made my life great..
@@TheCompleteGuitarist I'm free to have an opinion. Your wife's boyfriend probably agrees with me... You must be one of those "white losers for Harris"
with all due respect, why is it that it is most often an older folk who seems to be so interested in diagnosing and regulating sexual lives of others? sexual revolution was a by-product of civil rights movement, which gave every individual agency and value irrespective of gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. in the times predating sexual revolution and civil rights, women by and large were regarded as being inferior to men with roles limited to that of a mother, home maker, etc. Long-term relationships that were the norm and which Peterson so approvingly is speaking of were not built on mutual respect, affinity, and love. A married state conferred a degree of economic stability and physical security in a society where both were in short supply. Exploitation, lack of protections and no route of escape from abusive relationships that women had to endure were incomparable to whatever damage, perceived or otherwise, that may come from a lack of commitment and short-term flings that are a feature of a modern western society. One just has to remember the notion of petty treason in English Common Law to understand how things stood in the traditional familial arrangements of yore so beloved by the likes of Messieur Peterson.
Marilyn Monroe and Hugh Hefner are both buried in the Corridor of MCorridor of Memories section of Pierce Brothers Westwood Village Memorial Park and Mortuary in Los Angeles, California: Marilyn Monroe Buried in her final resting place in the cemetery Hugh Hefner Buried in a single-space mausoleum crypt to the immediate left of Monroe's Hefner purchased the crypt in 1992 for $75,000. He was buried there in 2017 at the age of 91. Hefner once said, "Spending eternity next to Marilyn is an opportunity too sweet to pass up". In March 2024, the crypt was put up for auction as part of a sale of Hefner's and Monroe's belongings. The crypt sold for over $150,000. The auction also included other items, such as: Monroe's first Playboy magazine cover from 1953 Hefner's burgundy smoking jacket and silk pajamas An orange-hued Elizabeth Arden lipstick owned by Monroe in the 1960s A gown that Monroe wore during the production of “The Seven Year Itch” The Corridor of Memories is often visited by fans from around the world, who leave lipstick kisses on the crypts.
Short-term mating strategies only work if you don't have a future to look forward to, and this could to be due to a lack of hope, as well as a fundamental lack of self-love, there is hope for the future and you do have value as a human being, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, even if you stuck in the abyss.
I'll have to look up and confirm that findng of "girls without father reach puberty 1 year earlier than her peers", but that is a significant evidence for pair bonding in humans being the default. If pair bonding doesn't occur, i.e. the male simply mate and leave, this mechanism would not have evolved.
You mistake men are mindless, instinctual driven animals. Maybe you are just describing yourself. Every boy/man has both reason and free will. You can choose to act like an animal or to act like a Christian. You should like the former.
@@thecrow4597 I wouldn't want to go back to a society in which it's not normal to have a girlfriend as a teenager, to live together as a couple in young adulthood and college and to be consensually romantically involved with whoever one wants.
@misterx3188 sounds like you've been reading propaganda. My grandparents for example pursued each other freely, even against their parents wishes for one set, dated as teenagers, and got married of their own accord.
The cost of the revolution is the lives of innocent humans, dseases, single parent homes, fatherlessness, etc. We are not ment to have many many partners, family is foundational. Children need their parents together in a stable environment. Select a partner and marry them, stay committed to them.
Sure you can enjoy it... But if it wasn't for condoms your behavior would result in a man filled with syphilis, gonorrhea, HIV, herpes... And legions of single mothers and fatherless children. Which is exactly what's happening. So it's not a "success" it's more like what's causing civilization collapse.
Sure you can enjoy it... But if it wasn't for condoms your behavior and psychology would have resulted in a man full of syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, HIV... Legions of single mothers, fatherless children and civilization problems. Which is exactly what's happening. So it's not a "successful" strategy.
I’m in my 50s and divorced after a long marriage. Fit and have decent but not crazy money. I feel like the German machine gunners in opening of Saving Private Ryan mowing down SoFl MILFs They are all divorced and had ton of money to have the front porch redone and abs etched in All MAGA It’s beautiful Thank you feminists I go on dating apps, find a hottie, smile because I know I have at least a 75% chance of sleeping with the hottie for a month or two and moving on
I fell in love when I was young and we lost our virginity together. When we broke up I was devastated and felt so unwanted and unlovable. The easiest way to feel wanted and “loved” became through sexual relations. When they didn’t want a relationship after it just reinforced my negative belief that I was unlovable and unwanted. So I became the “predator” of sexual relations and would leave so it made me feel like I was hurting them before they could hurt me. It led me to be numb emotionally and have a conquest mentality, which seeped into other areas of my life. So glad I found God and changed my life around.
Wow
I acted the same way. Only it was my father who made me feel unwanted. Jesus and sobriety saved me from it.
Blessed are you by the Lord my friend.
You sound rational. ... >frown< *I get it that there are often 'nuances', but, ffs...
Can’t fuck god though can you ? Sexuality is a gift use it but don’t abuse it
This goes back to the adage of fathers keeping their sons out of jail and their daughters off the pole. It's so important for children to have a strong father in the home, especially early on. All sorts of important life outcomes are shaped by this sole variable.
My father was home but hyper-critical and emotionally vacant/treated me like a guy. Guess what I was desperate to find in a man…
A dad being home doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be taught the right things.
My father was hard charging and masculine. My brothers and I fished and hunted early, fought even earlier. Graduated to consuming alcohol and girls in our teens. Jail turned out to be a vacation from busting hump at the local meat packing plant we worked. My sister was just as rowdy and independent. Strong fathers making strong children doesn't always hold true.
What does ‘strong’ father mean?
I swear you people and your abstractions.
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Yes blame dad for your promiscuity. Just admit you enjoy it
Exceptions don't make the rule. Children need fathers! If you had a bad one, that is life. It doesn't mean that children don't need their fathers and mothers.
I find it annoying that a grown woman can use her sexuality to gain material advantage, and after the fact, once all gains have been had, she can be painted with the victim brush. Just looked it up and she was 22-23 when she posed for those photos. Does personal agency _ever_ apply in these situations?
Accountability is not a measure applied to western women.
@@namegoeshere2903 What "accountability" does Monroe owe you?
People do all sorts of things when they are hungry
She was also pasionate reader of books, had lot of books. They say she was talking to Einstein.
She had higher IQ than Einstein about 165.
and she said something to Einstein that if they had kids together, the kid would get her beauty and his wisdom.
Einstein said the kid would probly get my beauty and your Marylin wisdom.
I’ll give them sympathy when they relinquish all of the money they gained from their self prostitution.
Same applies to OnlyFans and literal porn girls (Lana Rhodes, for example, has recently called for her videos to be taken down because she is starting a family 😂)
3:35 With all due respect to everyone, we are way too focused on men who consensually use women for casual sex. It's not good, but that obsession makes no sense when we simultaneously utterly fail to address far worse instances of female sexual predation. Female teachers who statutorily grape their minor students face a fraction of the punishment a man would. Women who lie about using birth control to deceive a man into getting her pregnant still profit by getting full child support awards. Then there's the completely ignored problem of paternity fraud. This is all sexual predatory behavior, and of a far worse character than hook-up culture because it does far more damage to the victim than leaving them feeling used. These things have real, often decades long impact on the victim; and yet we do virtually nothing about it. Maybe once we've started taking female sexual predation seriously, and punishing it according to its seriousness, we can go back to clutching our pearls over folks who were merely made to feel icky for a day or two.
You are uncommonly articulate and remarkably persuasive. Your comment was a very well constructed piece of advocacy that I wholeheartedly endorse. Thank you for shining a light on this far more serious issue that appears to get almost no attention at all because it is inconsistent with the “female victim/male perpetrator“ paradigm.
In particular, paternity tests should be mandatory before any hospital employee writes a father‘s name onto a birth certificate. Blood tests are required before people can marry to protect each party from the other‘s sexual misconduct that manifests as a sexually transmissible disease, so paternity tests should be required before shackling a man to the financial burdens of fatherhood. This will avoid the injustice of a man‘s resources being extracted from him involuntarily to support another man‘s child (it also protects that other man who may otherwise never know that he has fathered a child; this may be that other man’s only shot at fatherhood and a woman‘s ability to keep him ignorant is also an injustice). What rational basis can there possibly be for objecting to this??? Only a woman with something to hide would fear a paternity test, and such a woman is not deserving of concealment or protection.
@@MrSethmo13 Thank you for your kind words.
And you fail to see this as a consequence of male deranged sexual behavior due to sexual revolution. As women felt more and more fragile, not empowered, through casual sexual activity, they started to fear men. Also a father figure who is an early stereotype of men's uncontrolled lust and promiscuity, has an impact. If you watch Sex and the City, a series which in the 90' virtually celebrated female sex empowering, it is actually fuelled with fear: they just pretend it is ok, life is fabulous, but it's not. Like Monroe. I'm not saying women are all innocent, but the derangement in their sexual behavior, like hypergamy, was surely caused by a society coming suddenly avoidant of responsabile reproductive behavior and fulfilling relationships.
Men casually using women for sex then discarding them is just as generationally damaging as the things you’ve described. It’s not merely “making someone feel icky for a few days.”
A father *always* leads his house, even when his chair is empty.
Lol, I'm not an Englisch speaker and far less eloquant than the both of you but do wholeheartedly agree with both of you. The sexual revolution did nothing more than take out fathers from theire families and made the state the head of woman and childeren. Make families great again and reinstate the traditional gender roles before this world ends in a childless cesspool of androgene statedrones who will fight anyone over who is the biggest victim.
Both male and female should seek to build value and solve problems. Acknowledge a sole Creator and live according to their holy book to the best of their ability.
I’m not saying women can’t be problem solvers or have utility value, but generally speaking there is much less need for them to have user traits than men. A man is judged almost exclusively on his ability to problem-solve and have utility. If a man doesn’t have these things, his odds of finding a woman who is willing to pass on his bloodline is severely reduced. Women by and large can get by with their beauty and charm. They’re still more than capable of having utility and problem-solving, but the cost for them not having it is much less than it is for men.
I agree we should all seek a sole creator and unite under the banner of spirituality though.
Monotheism isn't great either. Painting the spiritual as black&white, good and evil, is incredibly small-minded and childish. Many things exist in the realms beyond what mankind can conceive, and they are just as morally grey and complex as we are.
@@jaredschmidt8013 This is where I have to solemnly disagree with your premise. What you and many other men still don't seem to get is that the economic landscape of today is a lot more expansive and diverse. In basic terms; women no longer need men for money or resources. Never in the history of man kind has their been a time where women could, for the most part, live independently from a man for her survival. Women are seeking men for other reasons now. Namely good genetics for their offspring
@@itachi_blvckitachi_blvck-jq6pf Also romance, feeling loved, having an attractive companion to share life with - are pretty high on most women's list. By "attractive" I mean the deeper chemistry men and women can feel.
It's good that women don't have do depend on men for money; gold digging was a bigger problem in the past when women HAD to find a man to support her and the kids.
@@jaredschmidt8013 Thanks for the post. Throughout history, both men and women have problem solved and have contributed to family and community by building value for others. This ability is not gender centered. Both must contribute 100%/100%. Divorce is 50%/50%.
Roles and responsibilities can be diverse and each relationship can determine who does what but make no mistake, money needs to be earned, beds made, dishes washed, car oil changed, etc. That has to be done through communication, ability and agreement. That’s initially the struggle; who does what? That’s why faiths are so important; you don’t have to reinvent the wheel per se. Those who came before you suffered similar struggles and we can learn from them how they made it through.
I'm 26 and STILL waiting until marriage, the world respexts but does not appreciate this kind of patience and dedication. Men and women are lost and regardless of the pain it costs me I will not engage in the 'let's see how it goes' mentality.
Replace looking for love for looking for someone who respects and appreciates you results in finding LOVE that lasts. Maintain and expand social groups with the same values. Avoid the casual dating sites, there will be nothing there for you. Maintain your values and pursue your purpose. Winning isn’t finding a mate, winning is finding a forever mate.
No girls from conservative and religious societies appreciate it a lot there are many conservative girls you can find in middle east there are some Christian girls there
Dr. Peterson, thank you for uploading this conversations to your TH-cam channel, knowing very well you can charge for these videos. As a youth director for a nonprofit organization, these topics are extremely relevant to the issues we face in our communities in south Texas (specifically border towns).
I love your videos a lot Jordan Peterson, it has help me as a growing intellectual and young man in this Vast changing society in America among my peers “Gen Z “ . Thank you and I hope to have the opportunity to come to one of your live events one day! 🙏🏾
Went to a Q and A in Anaheim once. Listening to JP made 2 hours feel like 30 minutes
As a young man, I'm done listening to topics about this. Nothing will change on the short term. The current generation of women have accepted sexual promiscuity, and modern dating is a hazard.
Better for a regular man to focus his attention and prioritize on the pursuit of success. The chances of finding a "good" woman are slim to none. Let modern women enjoy the choices they've made
It could be said the same for men. As a 27 year old virgin compare to others in my family and friends group even just society I notice these women who show off more find multiple partners but I can’t even find one. They say more men are becoming conservative but I’m struggling to see it. the good ones(men and women) are too far and in between. I personally keep my head down and go about my day.
@stacy-annmorgan6685 If you haven't seen a "good" man within your environment, that just tells me you're in the wrong neighborhood.
Most women only flock to the top percentile man, while the majority of men who are willing to be a "good" husband aren't given the opportunity or are just used.
@ I actually pay good money to live in a good neighbourhood. I go to church and see no young men. Only the big churches have these weak men in it. Nobody knows how to meet these days. I attempted to date for the first time the guy saying he was a Christian turned around and was ready to call me a liar. I left.
@@stacy-annmorgan6685 I don't know your exact situation, but you and I might have different meanings for what a "good" man is.
If you're paying good money to be in an organization to look for a partner, I would assume you're also looking for a top percentile man.
I wish you luck.
@ no it’s a small church we don’t pay to be there. Took me a long time to find a church that was biblical sound. I’m not rich I just choose to actually pay good money not to live in the ghetto.
Marylin acted out the anima all the time. She lacked power in her own life so her power drive was became empowered when she realized she could seduce men by acting out the anima. This is destructive to both men and herself. Marylin wanted men to be at her feet due to her own sense of inferiority, but remained unhappy because no one loves Norma Jean, but loves Marylin Monroe. Men love her image but not her, so she ends up being quite lonely underneath.
It's not just about looks in Marylin's case, but during that time period time the blonde bombshell was the social expectation of beauty. Now when a man projects his feminine image onto a another human being this is a project of his "anima". Many men projected the anima onto Marylin. This is why Monroe could "turn on" Marylin or keep it "turned off" and stay Norma Jean. Anima projection is often associated with love at first sight or the instantaneous feeling of a crush. She became the collective anima projection for many men who saw the culmination of their mother and the mother archetype (a collective unconscious archetype as powerful as the hero).
Spot on!
@@ingrid5944I think it starts with people being attracted to each other and builds from their if they each have an authentic personality.
@@ingrid5944 If you let yourself be used, that's your fault.
Men don't want women that have been had by other men.
If you don't want to be used, you demand a ring before you give anything up at all.
@@BetaBuxDelux That's how you become beta bux.
She'll feign attraction.
Oh just stop it. She got around because she enjoyed it. If you truly believe women have no agency then we have to take away their rights.
Poor Norma Jean.
She so desperately wanted to be loved and adored...and people took advantage of that.
That's onlyfans girls today, sadly
she was BPD. She did what she did because she could not work a job, NOR could she obey any of her 3 husbands. People took advantage of her BPD and she destroyed all the men who loved her. Ask Joe.
SHe si not poor, she is an adult woman who can make her own decisions.
are women empowered or not??.... you can not be empowered and then a poor victim at the same time.
most women chose that, they are not victims they are just experiencing the result of their actions.
She was a very smart woman that was only seen by her looks. She wanted attention, and she was smart, so she got it from one perspective, the perspective of beauty. But she was not emotionally intelligent, unfortunately. She was used till she was dead. I wish I could find her and talk to her and give her a big hug! She had a lovely soul! She just wanted to be loved and to have a loving husband and a family 😢
@@ingrid5944 She had 3 husbands. She disposed of all of them. 2 of them never stopped loving her.
Don’t forget the intense competition among some women to attract attention from a desirable male. It’s like selling a product but they don’t know it. And sadly, some drop out of the competition all together because they feel they can’t compete. It’s all so twisted.
When I think about the punk rock chicks I knew 45 years ago, I would argue that many know they are competing. They called their make up, war paint.
And yes it is twisted.
That's life. Surviving and thriving in life is all about what you can offer to others for the best arrangement. Our beauty, our bodies, our youth, our intelligence are all tools to hopefully help us survive in this vast, cruel world.
@@proudatheist2042 Justice will be served based on how we use those tools.
@@proudatheist2042Yep. Well said. Everyone these days wants/thinks life is some Disney movie but that’s not reality
Let’s be honest gotta give Trump credit he is not even in power yet and he brought down HOEFLATION in a week
Care to inform me?
@@TheOlzee I think he was talking about the 4B movement
No woman wants you, Trump-in-office or not. Cope.
@@TheOlzeeblue haired liberals have decreed no sex while trump is in office.
Which is hilarious, simply because if they had that sense of discipline, abortion wouldn’t have been their primary concern regarding voting 😂rights
You are going to have to explain your axiom and how Trump supernaturally did this. As far I see Trump is your god not Jesus.
From deep inside the stupid camp, I’d like to thank you Dr Peterson, for making explicit statements. It’s what most men want and, among the more stupid, myself included, it’s what we need.
Why are you trying to prove to us that you are stupid?
In marriage the emotional intimacy is more important than the
fashion stuff.
like when she knows what kind of food he likes, what music or art h elikes, what vaction he likes,
who he is inside of his head, not just outside looks.
How can she love amn if she doesnt know who he is in his own head, what music he likes etc
the ordinary stuff are to ordinary in emotional intimacy
man probably also has similar feelings
he doesnt fall just with her looks but what she likes, what books she likes, what music , art , food etc.
Because if thjey dont share these ordinary stuff, they may feel like they are married to a robot.
You can love a man without knowing a thing about him.
The more you know him, the less you will love him.
Men, stay guarded.
I think this is for a certain kind of person. I don't care if my partner knows what kind of food I like. I need a mind mate...someone with an intellect that can keep up with mine and has its own original ideas. There's a lot of individuality in what people need in a partner.
@@saintsword23 If you're a man, your mind-mate will be another man.
You will not find a woman that is both able to keep up with you and wishes to be loyal to you.
Like all the girls who wanted to look like Angelina Jolie. Octmom ect. Now girls want to look like the Kardashians or Cardi B ect.
In a culture where women can have social protection, economic means etc. Dr. Peterson's theory doesn't wash. It is personal vulnerability that causes the issue and not external forces. Lack of character in other words.
Culture and social norms significantly shapes character .
I think the idea behind his 'Economic Theory' is that historically that is how culture has developed so far. It's pretty recent in human history where we have economic and social protections.
I have read the 12 Rules...i felt at the time the book to be one of enlightenment, perhaps because i don't read well, consistently. Myself, i am attracted to beautiful woman. My mistakes made during the sexual revolution have followed me. I look for history and perhaps knowledge itself, to find answers and even solutions. Just a random thought on the topic...what of those humans of ancient times? Those of Sodom and G..., they played with sexual trials and not for the better. And today, in modern times, we are tested as human souls, once again. I can only hope and pray, for Christ as savior, to save us from our sinful humanity.
With respect, Dawn, everyone is entitled to their feelings. But I think, on balance, I‘d rather listen to Peterson, a research based clinical psychologist
@ I guess you have a crystal ball and figured out what I knew. After all, I'm only a woman talking about other women and having 20 years university.
People want to take advantage. That’s the problem. When people see a girl/woman like Marylyn they could think “something’s not right here, maybe she’s been abused or is unsafe somehow” but instead that sort of Satan gets inside them and they think about how they can profit from it, exploit it, etc. They go to satisfying desires of the flesh. She has a sort of appeal where she’s a glamorous/famous girl, but at the same time would fight for the underdog, because of her tough background. And that’s basically where Hollywood ends and pornography begins, where they have desirable girls who seem even more available, more desperate, etc. (and perhaps more abused, more helpless) and consumers begin to care less about the actual person in the movie.
Hollywood and pornography also push the corruption of innocence in a sense, but they don’t actually portray this directly. Instead they make the adults seem more young, or make the young seem more like adults. Making them more bonded to the adult figures than would be typical of a normal life. Even characters like Annie, from that classic movie. She seems a bit more adult than a girl in that sort of vulnerable situation would be in real life.
The problem is, a vulnerable girl is wife material.
A vulnerable girl that's had lots of men is not.
Once you go down that path, being used is all you're good for.
Blaming men for the behavior of women
How paternalistic
Unfortunately many people are exploited by others. Women for their physical attributes, men for their emotional attributes.
If I had photos of my body circulated that didn't make me a cent but made me beloved and desired by the opposite sex, I might not mind so much.
Having my emotions exploited for the thrill of attention and ego boost by others leaving me not with everlasting iconic status but just a broken heart wouldn't be my preferred option.
I always find it noteworthy when top down feminists like the Perry advocate for traditional marriage and the nuclear family but not the changing of laws that savaged both. She never speaks to the impossible position men find themselves in with modern relationships and the financial, legal and societal realities that accompany them. I view her sanctimonious twaddle with extreme caution. Her rather dramatic feigning of empathy is up there with Amanda Knox.
excellent. I agree. She does not want to change the laws at all.
They want it both ways... as they always did.
The feminists are upset that men are catching up and they don't get married like they used to.
Frankly, I'm amazed that such people have their views regarding traditional marriage, maintain their ideology, and have no clue that said ideology is counter to the family.
They want to eat their cake and have it. If you listen to Mona Charon's Aspen Institute talk, she tells you 2nd Wave was anti-family. If you hear of Charles Fourier and look at his sentiments, you realize the anti-family issue goes to before the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention.
Some want to keep something that undermines society on such a level that demographics are undermined across the board in first world areas and those approaching first world status.
@allisterwhitehead. I find it typical of modern men, that you only care about men. Does that mean modern men are gay? with how they hate women and sympathize with men? Your sanctimonious twaddle is a lot like P Diddy.
Marilyn’s given name was Norma Jean Baker.
In the way of “innocent and mature” Marilyn is similar to Michael Jackson
Anyone else puzzled by how this is an interview but Jordan speaks pretty much the whole time on the interviewees subject matter?
Leave that to jordan
😅
Keep in mind, this is only a clip of the entire interview.
The full interview is likely an hour and a half long.
Editing!
Specifically I never understood the intense attractiveness of Monroe.
That’s because you’re gay.
me neither but oh well.
Things were extremely different pre-Internet.
@@SwaeTech
I'll not saying she was unattractive, just not over the top. The whole "cutesie" naivety with the cover girl looks would actually turn a reasonably intelligent guy with scruples off. Just my opinion.
IMO she was more attractive with no make up or minimum of make up in her civil life than as her fake, dolled-up, overdone alter ego persona for the cameras.
I think it was Triggernomotry that had an excellent video on the sexual revolution.
"Oldest boy at the frat party" LOL
The sexual revolution has been something that I've given some thought to. Particularly when it comes to our society and it's attitude towards sex. One could say the sexual revolution was a good thing, where society breaking free from theological tyranny, yet others are saying it's bad because it was the beginning of a more debauched society and the breakdown of the western civilization.
Could it be this promiscuous attitude that may have normalised today's single parenting?
This has been something I've wondered about when noticing a lot of the people similar age to me and grew up with in the 90's were raised in a single parent household and their dysfunction. Then having this discussion with my own parents and them saying that it was looked down on or pittied, through a tragic loss, when they were growing up in the 70's.
But then you have many of these single parents once had a partner and for some reason their relationship broke down. Which brings me to ask, what is wrong with the fairy tale happy ever after when it comes to finding that someone and settling down with kids at an early age?
Look around at people in general. Most of them are dysfunctional, weren't raised all that well, and have psychological problems. A lot of people are selfish and hard to get along with.
Happy long term relationships require mentally stability and 2 people who are kind and giving. That's not most our society.
I knew a couple married 20 years or more who would gaze into each other's eyes and act like they were just starting to date. They were also very kind people with unusually good character.
How would the predatory sexual nature of homosexual cruising and homosexual promiscuity tie into anti-social personality disorder?
Nobody would ever DARE to talk about it on the internet for obvious reason (lgbtq+ minority policy)
Women feel ‘empowered’ when they take control of their sexuality (aka sleep around without judgment), yet after all is said and done they claim to be victims to the men they consensually slept with. They’ll say they’re victims because of an age imbalance (even though they did this in their twenties), or due to a power imbalance (even though they chased men with power), or due to regret (even though they willingly took on the action, such as Monroe willingly taking photos for money and signing a contract selling over rights thanks these photos).
What kind of ‘empowerment’ is this if someone can claim to not have agency even though they’re adults of consenting age??
Its really interesting that all this discourse assumes that the over 8 billion people in the world want to live their lives the same which is so fascinating also the double standards are equally interesting.
Jordan I love you but you really need to let the other person in the room speak.😮
NO HE IS THE GENIUS POP OFF
This is a short clip, only showing part of the video so we don't see the full interview with the other woman having her say.
No chance that will ever happen
Like Hugh Hefner he despises , he’s blind to his own hubris and egomania.
No chance that will ever happen
Like Hugh Hefner he despises , he’s blind to his own hubris and egomania.
JP loves hearing his own voice.
Predatory, parasiticaly seeking relationships is the best description that I've heard.
Not condoning what happened: Marilyn was paid by the photographer for the photos and did the shoot because she needed money. Leaving the photographer to do with them what he will.
She was also in her twenties when she did this! At which point do women take responsibility for their agency?? But then if a woman in her early twenties decides to do pornography they’ll call it ‘empowerment’??
Marilyn Monroe was also a famous comedian, and we love her still. Amazingly, she rose from great hardship. RIP.
Brilliantly done 🎉
I've kind of stopped listening to Louise Perry ever since she said that she got "The Ick" while listening to men talking about their problems in "The Red Pill" documentary in her podcast episode with Cassie Jaye.
The Parasite just wants blood.
What you mean? Some men on the red pill movement are problematic though. They talk like Islamists...
2:27 Would've been awesome to overdub with that karate 'woosh woosh' sound.
9:57 someone needs to change their smoke alarm batteries 😂
No need to agree. Opening minds to re-boot thinking is not a bad thing. Brilliant deep thought is not to be feared.
In family court, the exploitation is NOT being perpetrated By men but ON men.
JP is so damn smart I love hearing him talk ❤!
Listen to sick beats while delivering sick speech 🎧
Marilyn was Norma Jean Baker. Sally Field was Norma Rae!
Hugh = Hugh Hefner, I believe.
Love the video
Jordan person going off! Golden era media and X-men assemble!
She looks like that actress that was in xmen first class and neighbors
Rose byrn
Who is the guest?
Louise Perry. Author of 'the case against the sexual revolution'. This was one of JP's interviews where he didn't let the guest speak very much...
The price is the slow collapse of what goes into creating and maintaining what lies beneath the foundation of human society itself, irregardless of the civilization.
On Marilyn's "childlike" presentation and early sexual maturity.
I believe puberty can signal the end of growth, height.
Do those who mature earlier retain childish features other than short stature?
What episode is this
Norma Jean was her given names.
JP: talking dictionary
(JP: Gesticulating codex)
Was Marilyn desperate or greedy? Vain?
Unloved.
@@apebass2215 Love is for virgin women.
@@apebass2215great answer
Bro, that suit is sharp AF. Secondly, that mix of young and mature appeal of M. Monroe, is scarily like one of my ex's
Just when you think this just another lecture, Jordan remembers there’s someone else in the room
I am impressed with Dr. Peterson’s Christian Nietschean unique perspective. But I do find his mostly unequivocal embrace of Elon Musk a bit odd - he’s among the most successful males on the planet and (predictably) lives as a functional polygynist, as a tribal chieftain would have in years past. I realize that he prefers Mr Musk to weak people who don’t have his options - he is still a polygynist.
The only real problem with polygamy is if it becomes widespread in society. The occasional billionaire doing it doesn't change much.
Norma JEAN, not Norma Rae.
Norma Mortenson, Jeane was her middle name. Norma Rae is a movie.
is it really the female that has far more at stake when she is waiting to be provided for and protected by a male engaged in her defense even at the risk of his health and life? I don't think so
Marilyn Monroe was born Norma Jeane Mortenson 7:50
Is Trump a narcissist Jordan? If so, my next and more important question is: is he a malignant narcissist? And who is he malignant to?
Well, "Yea".....but the people who voted for him don't care. Most of them can't even spell 'narcissist', let-alone understand why it might be bad in leadership.
I'm not Jordan, but I can give you my answer.
No.
Trump sits and listens to other people's grief and that is how he wins.
If you listen to Trump speak, he praises others far more than himself.
I think JBP brings on guests just so he can lecture to them. I hear more of him than I do the guests.
Are "girls without fathers" who hit puberty one year earlier predominantly of African heritage?
I understand that (on average of course) people of African ancestry sexually mature earlier than Europeans.
Yeah, I don't know why he assumed his hypothesis when it's more likely correlative data.
I don't know, it's easy with hindsight. I would believe these theories more if they could be applied to someone to whom none of the fame happened yet
The main reason I click out is JP never participate in the revolution. We can tell.
Sounds like the parasitic manipulator, resembles the entire mainstream culture of the last 10-15 years.
And most young women, might have adapted this kind of strategy as a result, to some extent.
Also, this change seems to have largely resulted in widespread distrust of social systems, and distrust of culture in general.
In much the same way, that distrust results from mistreatment of individuals, by individual bad actors, at the microcosmic level of interrelationships.
💯 it also doesn’t help they most women are whores now so dudes simply don’t care to have relations with them beyond sexual ones. So, I disagree with Jordan here in that men have dark tetrad when they sleep around for fun since he’s not mentioning that it’s common sense to not want relations with hoes lol
Expansion can turn into repulsion.
Looking back almost 60 years to my teenage years, I was only interested in the short term strategy. All of the “cool” kids were skilled at this and revered for it. Fortunately I wasn’t emotionally or psychologically adept at it. But I can see that had I been, it would have been very easy to slip into Machiavellian patterns of behavior due to immaturity. I would guess that this was the case for so many others. Today’s social media pandemic that teens are enmeshed in serves the same master. So many of my students display hard core narcissistic traits; it’s a scary direction they are going in. There’s no mechanism to limit how far they go down that hole in the ground.
On this topic, Peterson really ought to give a shout out or interview to E MICHAEL JONES.
But we all know he won’t, and why he won’t. 😑
But a lot of women and n that industry will say, the women are in fact playing the men around them.
Why cant people just ride the eunich revolution? We just got to admit it sometimes that not many of us should have children and the world will be a better place.
Seems to me the short term sex partner folk should be alarmed at the idea they are mating. They are not doing it for the sake of bringing about new life.
1:50 ‼️
It's better not to get into sex, at all!
Damit would someone adress these CELL TOWERS not and when you see the abomination of desolation set up as the wholy place / governance. How do you so!ve the pressures not adressing vice!
What group of people pushed this on society?
Woman good, man bad.
AI Wifelike will be here soon
The comic books and not the city haha
Norma Jean.
Dr Peterson, you're wrong about Holly Madison, who was one of Hugh Hefner's "bimbos". She's clearly really smart. Read her book. Furthermore, Hefner never met Marilyn Monroe (aka Norma Jean) in person.
Tell the millions upon millions of single fathers that the woman bears the greater cost of reproduction.
I always feel the need to hate on this B word.
chinese social credit score?! what a joke
Who is this beautiful woman??
I just love the amazing and beautiful landscape of a gorgeous womans body. I've travelled many places and seen amazing sights and breathtaking scenes but nothing compares to the naked body of a beautiful woman. I am happily married and do not cheat on my wife. As a younger man i have absolutely no regret about the wonderful times i spent with women and the vivid memories i hold. Their beauty and passion made my life great..
Oh my god
The sexual revolution etc was wholly bad, anything that might be seen as good in it not belonging to it
10 minute interview and the guest speaks like 30 seconds.
Not a 10 minute interview. 10 minute clip from a longer interview.
Same ratio for the rest of the interview. He does that constantly @@TheCompleteGuitarist
@davidventura83 who cares. He is part of the conversation. If you dont like it, go elsewhere!
@@TheCompleteGuitarist I'm free to have an opinion. Your wife's boyfriend probably agrees with me... You must be one of those "white losers for Harris"
fun
with all due respect, why is it that it is most often an older folk who seems to be so interested in diagnosing and regulating sexual lives of others? sexual revolution was a by-product of civil rights movement, which gave every individual agency and value irrespective of gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. in the times predating sexual revolution and civil rights, women by and large were regarded as being inferior to men with roles limited to that of a mother, home maker, etc. Long-term relationships that were the norm and which Peterson so approvingly is speaking of were not built on mutual respect, affinity, and love. A married state conferred a degree of economic stability and physical security in a society where both were in short supply. Exploitation, lack of protections and no route of escape from abusive relationships that women had to endure were incomparable to whatever damage, perceived or otherwise, that may come from a lack of commitment and short-term flings that are a feature of a modern western society. One just has to remember the notion of petty treason in English Common Law to understand how things stood in the traditional familial arrangements of yore so beloved by the likes of Messieur Peterson.
Marilyn Monroe and Hugh Hefner are both buried in the Corridor of MCorridor of Memories section of Pierce Brothers Westwood Village Memorial Park and Mortuary in Los Angeles, California:
Marilyn Monroe
Buried in her final resting place in the cemetery
Hugh Hefner
Buried in a single-space mausoleum crypt to the immediate left of Monroe's
Hefner purchased the crypt in 1992 for $75,000. He was buried there in 2017 at the age of 91. Hefner once said, "Spending eternity next to Marilyn is an opportunity too sweet to pass up".
In March 2024, the crypt was put up for auction as part of a sale of Hefner's and Monroe's belongings. The crypt sold for over $150,000. The auction also included other items, such as:
Monroe's first Playboy magazine cover from 1953
Hefner's burgundy smoking jacket and silk pajamas
An orange-hued Elizabeth Arden lipstick owned by Monroe in the 1960s
A gown that Monroe wore during the production of “The Seven Year Itch”
The Corridor of Memories is often visited by fans from around the world, who leave lipstick kisses on the crypts.
God wants me to understand this but its so uncomfortable to listen to
Short-term mating strategies only work if you don't have a future to look forward to, and this could to be due to a lack of hope, as well as a fundamental lack of self-love, there is hope for the future and you do have value as a human being, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, even if you stuck in the abyss.
Silly video.
I'll have to look up and confirm that findng of "girls without father reach puberty 1 year earlier than her peers", but that is a significant evidence for pair bonding in humans being the default. If pair bonding doesn't occur, i.e. the male simply mate and leave, this mechanism would not have evolved.
You mistake men are mindless, instinctual driven animals. Maybe you are just describing yourself. Every boy/man has both reason and free will. You can choose to act like an animal or to act like a Christian. You should like the former.
Half wrong Mr. Peterson
Actually, as I watch more of this video, Jordan is more than half wrong on this
Imagine the cost of not having had a sexual revolution.
No cost. Just earnings
@@thecrow4597 I wouldn't want to go back to a society in which it's not normal to have a girlfriend as a teenager, to live together as a couple in young adulthood and college and to be consensually romantically involved with whoever one wants.
@@misterx3188you really are better off without those things
@misterx3188 sounds like you've been reading propaganda. My grandparents for example pursued each other freely, even against their parents wishes for one set, dated as teenagers, and got married of their own accord.
The cost of the revolution is the lives of innocent humans, dseases, single parent homes, fatherlessness, etc.
We are not ment to have many many partners, family is foundational.
Children need their parents together in a stable environment.
Select a partner and marry them, stay committed to them.
I've lived like a king under the sexual revolution.
I'm not going back.
Sure you can enjoy it... But if it wasn't for condoms your behavior would result in a man filled with syphilis, gonorrhea, HIV, herpes... And legions of single mothers and fatherless children.
Which is exactly what's happening. So it's not a "success" it's more like what's causing civilization collapse.
Sure you can enjoy it...
But if it wasn't for condoms your behavior and psychology would have resulted in a man full of syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, HIV... Legions of single mothers, fatherless children and civilization problems.
Which is exactly what's happening. So it's not a "successful" strategy.
I’m in my 50s and divorced after a long marriage. Fit and have decent but not crazy money.
I feel like the German machine gunners in opening of Saving Private Ryan mowing down SoFl MILFs
They are all divorced and had ton of money to have the front porch redone and abs etched in
All MAGA
It’s beautiful
Thank you feminists
I go on dating apps, find a hottie, smile because I know I have at least a 75% chance of sleeping with the hottie for a month or two and moving on