Well, fortunately, they do not sell to the public. I have found out and have had an extensive conversation with the Auction as well and out of respect we’re going to keep it unnamed, but you won’t run across this again. I can assure that.
I would definitely call this builder out!!! This shit gives all car guy's a bad name!!! Shame on the auction company for not disclosing the condition of this truck!!!
There’s a lot of things that should have been disclosed, but it’s part of the industry unfortunately just have to learn but out of respect, we won’t disclose the Auction, the seller or the builder when we could easily definitely make them all the laughing stock of the Internet with a push of a button
@@DavisOffRoad1 all that does is allow someone else to get taken by not calling them out. Not everyone is restoration savvy to see all the shortcomings.
@@dondagy9109 i can agree on that point as well for sure. But If nothing else those that see the video and do there do diligence will understand and be more knowledgeable on things. Hey maybe thats all the ability that shop has who knows.... we just rather take the higher road at this point and let others learn that may stumble upon the video etc.
It still has a decent value. It is a good running fuel injected short bed Chevy. Keep watching. Trust me what goes around comes around get the popcorn 🍿 ready for this one
I’m really glad that you did this video to show people that don’t know any better what to look for. There is nothing worse than having to tell someone that they bought junk when they bring it to you to check it out!
I have seen a truck from mecum that looks like this. Nice cruiser, but there is clear coat runs all around the bottom. Did you buy it sight unseen? Buyers need to do their research.
It’s a damn shame, those trucks are one of the easiest trucks to restore. Everything is available parts-wise and relatively affordable. They are easy to wrench on, there isn’t anything on the truck that’s difficult to work on if you know what you’re doing. Disgraceful.
Absolutely. I recently bought a 1978 GMC K15 Stepside. Got doors, rockers, fenders, fender wells etc for literally less than $1000. You can get parts for these trucks all day long. Just have to put in the labor.
Wow,that is crazy,a waste of ruining a square body,I've always said,WY do people that can't do it right waste ruining a squarebody,Keep ur hands of if u can't do it right! THANKS FOR SHARING THIS.
The 2 big auction places are a joke. Destroys the hobby in my opinion. A few years ago, my elderly neighbor wanted a change, so went to MECUM. He sold a truly legit 69 427 vette. Bought a 67 failane gt that was absolute junk with a paint job. MECUM did nothing, dude who sold it said "you bought it". Thanks for doing this video. People need to know about the crap on the market right now.
Yep you’re right. But frame off restoration description 😂 wow. That’s just a bold face cover up lie. But it worked… in theory but pretty sure there will be less of it because not many in the square world miss our channel or other social media outlets we have. Just hope lesson learned and it doesn’t cost anymore. Every penny they have saved for a kids first time truck that they dreamed of and saved for … then it would really be a bad bad day
You have to know what you are buying and just replace the door hinges and alignment and accept what you bought. That's a great year model of truck. So I really don't feel bad for you guys for buying. If you don't check it out first before buying? It's your loss
We don’t feel bad either just trying to educate people that don’t know so that they don’t buy something like this with all their money and have no more money to spend. We will make it into a nice truck.
Quality Door Striker Bolt kit for both doors are about $20 total. I'm 70 years old, it took me less than ten minutes to remove install and adjust both doors. The frame issues and especially those leaf spring shackles and bushings were criminal. Someone could be killed with that monkey business. The front is too high looks silly.
I mean if it was just a guy fixing up his truck and not a professional he did a good enough job,looks like a decent driver..When I was 16 I thought I did a awesome job but if I would see them now I probably would cringe...The problem is the auction company mislabeling the truck...then again auctions are auctions,I have seen junk go for $90k before! I am into Mopar and you see so many so-called restored and they are worse than this truck! Missing trim,crappy done interior with parts missing and total junk..1/4 panels wrong and engines rebuilt with performance parts and they are slower than a smaller stock base engine etc..etc..
And yes, if it wasn’t for the representation of frame off, which we have the photo on the Jumbotron showing frame off restoration properly done etc that’s the part that made it bad not bad but TERRIBLE if it just ran across the block as an average old truck, we would’ve purchased it as an average old truck and we would’ve been pleased not happy but we would have got what we bargained for
I disagree! Whoever built this went out of their way to purposely deceive the buyer from the problems! All that undercoating and paint to cover/hide rust is despicable! My guess is the further you dig into this, the more problems you will find!
The duel tank switch is missing and the instrument panel looks like it's from a diesel truck. The body looks real nice. I had two square bodies and they always broke down and needed to be fixed all of the time and I don't miss them trucks.
I came to the comments to make a comment, but it looks like many others have already said what I was about to say! I fully understand the maturity and professionalism about not mentioning the "culprits", but unless you got this truck for a price you can't say no to, I believe you should try to return it. Just to make the auction house think twice next time, plus maybe cause some tension between the auction house and the seller/rebuilder. Otherwise, as you said, if you make a few repairs and make the truck right, this truck will get scarfed up in no time, I'm sure. They're very desirable now, as you know! PS. Kudos to you for not trying to pass it on as is.
Thanks for sharing this information to the classic truck community, sorry you ended up with the truck, but you are a much bigger and better man for excepting it and moving forward.
I drive past your shop a lot on my way home to Chester from Richmond and gawk at your trucks while driving by. You have some nice stuff there. I bought my carport from you guys a long time ago.
Oh yes, you’re definitely correct on that but all of the incoming lead wires are also cut so they could do aftermarket gauges complete hack job. We are cleaning up currently.
Holy cow. I am currently doing my first ever restoration on an 85 GMC, and I am in no way an expert, but I wouldn't even think to cut the corners they did. Oh and the hole they decided to put a badge over in the cab was the switch to change fuel tanks.
I've been to auto auctions over the past 18 years. It's a 50/50 on good verse lemon. These days over raided prices. For beer cans sitting on rubber. I'm still driving a 90 truck. If it breaks fix it. Keep on trucking. Cheers.
Yes, sir, you are correct but the auction house has some responsibility. They do have eyes and can see the misrepresentation was not only by the seller, but also by the auction for not catching this.
Thank you for posting this. The uninformed and inexperienced could learn to just look a little closer at the details that make these "restorations" valuable. From your short walkaround, I see less than 400$ in parts needed, with the time and know-how that would have yielded a 40k truck. no excuses for not adjusting the bed correctly, replacing pedal pads, ALL bushings, a weekend under the hood, my god...can just keep going. buff and wax. And to think that whoever did this, it's not the first time. Screwing ppl for years I'd bet.
I guarantee whoever did this really wouldn't care if you called them out. They might not get any more big auction sales. But they know their local/regional clientele will be happy roll around in what looks like a $40k truck for just $18k all day long.
My buddy bought a 70 Charger convertible like this. But he knew it was cobbled together. Before buying. The body and frame were solid and paint was good. So he still bought it.
This is the shit I live for. Thanks for showing their mistakes on their "show quality" build. This happens far too much. However the amount of class it takes to redo their bandaids and boogers without trashing them on broadcast here is hard to come by. Good on you. We are all in this business supposedly for passion of the craft, however for most that soons turns to bs baby back bitching about being broke or someone stirring a pot of drama. So it's cool to see someone pick it apart without the drama, just like the real life stuff we see EVERYDAY. We don't worry about who did it, we do it right so there is no need to question again.
That’s something one would do to ‘fix up an old beater’ that you’re going to actually drive and use. To try and pass it off as a ‘frame of restoration’ is beyond ridiculous and shady. As one who has been in the old car industry since high school, I’ve seen plenty of stuff that is like this and when I’ve sold them, I let the buyer know EXACTLY what they’re getting, a cool old ride that you can do some finish work to and make it even better. But I never could sleep at night trying to pass off junk as a restored ride.
That’s one of the reasons for our detailed videos we feel like it helps the customers tremendously seeing what they’re getting. We also put a lot of faith in people actually representing Vehicles properly though and that’s the side of this one that is so wrong and we see so much of it happen, we are typically able to catch it, but it catches a lot of others their pants down unfortunately
It’s the bane of the industry. It really gives those who actually give a crap a bad rep because of sleazeballs who are just out to make a quick buck. For 25 years I’ve done paint and body work. I’ve seen so many people get ripped off by some charlatan with a lipsticked pig for a vehicle. Heck, I beg people to just take me with them to look at something just so they don’t get ripped off, I’ve just seen it happen so much I feel bad for folks who just don’t know what to look for.
Just stumbled upon this channel. I have a buddy who sells cars and has been screwed over by auction houses. I wouldn't buy vehicles without seeing them in person. I get that's the new reality though. Great job on this video. New subscriber now!
That's sad! That separates the pro from the keyboard mechanics! Probably hoping some young kid would buy it before auction! Props to you for being a good man, not saying builders name!!!
You’re exactly right. They prayed on the novice for sure. And as for the name of the shop just a bigger person and a respect thing. Not that we would not like to call them out but it would cripple a business and maybe that should happen sometimes … if we save somebody else a costly mistake than it was worth it
@@DavisOffRoad1 you are definitely the bigger man! Just wanna add, a couple months ago went to Motorama in Harrisburg Pennsylvania. The so called show cars n trucks with tens of thousands dollar paint jobs with panel gap! Lol. You got a new sub my guy, much respect 💯💪🇺🇲
Oh yeah the industry is bad these days so many people just don’t see the good from bad… we can’t make every vehicle a six figure vehicle, but we can surely represent what is at hand properly
You're far more forgiving than I am, I would send it back. The "restoration" was not a frame-off because if had been, they would at least have pressure washed the frame and suspension components. I'm only halfway through the video and I'm more than a little bit pissed off. I'll watch the rest and can only imagine what additional horrors await me. You're an absolute saint for not putting the builder on blast.
Wait till you see part two and soon to come part three but if nothing else, this is proven a great example we’ve had such a reach out of people thanking us for educating because this is exactly what people buy all the time over the Internet. They will quickly learn dealing with a reputable dealer will go a lot further than this backyard hack crap. We have seen it time and time and time again this is by no means the first time and won’t be the last. It will end up a nice truck for somebody, but it should’ve been to start with part three is gonna be a really good one, especially after we speak to management exposing it internally the oversight and such a blatant one.
Part three will also show the block video where in bold letters scrolling across says frame off restoration as well as so many other things that obviously are not true
@@DavisOffRoad1 I'll be very interested to see how you clean up the engine bay. What the "builder" did was criminal and made the next guy's (your) work more difficult than it would have otherwise been. I'm waiting for part three.
That’s the thing that blows my mind and all of our guys continue to say the same thing … like it could’ve been so much cleaner and well done so much easier … the work that was put to make it wrong was way way more effort
I worked for a guy that would do shit like that. He had big and grand ideas but wouldn’t want to put time in it. He’d bid every job and according to him we’d come over his bid every time. I said, “well maybe you shouldn’t be the one bidding jobs”. I soon quit after that.
If you can’t do it right, the first time don’t do it at all. This kind of work is just ridiculous to have to do after somebody attempted to do it right just takes more time and more money.
Auctions work just fine when vehicles are represented properly we’ve been buying from auctions for 47 years and have bought and sold over 20,000 vehicles. The problem lies when they are deception and untruthful people involved with false representation.
if you can't pre auction inspect it yourself hire a service to do it. If it's not as advertised you don't bid. Lack of due diligence beforehand is also foolish when your spending real money that you worked for. life lessons suck at times.
We learn lessons all the time it’s not to teach our own selves. We’ve had 50 years of doing it. It’s too educate those that don’t understand and the biggest point on this one is the misrepresentation watch episode three for the auction posted information.
I worked for a chevy dealer in TN, back in the 80s, we had 1 come in for it's first oil change at 3000 miles, our lof guy (not a kid) drained the oul and installed a new filter and lowered the truck and put new oil in it, he started in and raised it to check for leaks, it was about half way up when the harmonic ballencer went rolling across the floor, it had broken off the end of the crank, after I was done laughing I moved it across the shop and installed a new short block, just goes to show gm was making crap in the 80s
These trucks were shit boxes when they came out. Most were rusty as shit within 5 years and rattled right off the dealer lot. Now they’re popular, but that doesn’t make them a quality built truck.
I know he bought sight unseen….but I would’ve ran as soon as I noticed the body line from the bed to cab was way off. It’s a good truck and can be fixed and is worth fixing. People using deceitful tactics of selling is nothing new, and can be found in all areas of business….
Yes, we couldn’t agree more hence the reason for this video, but we would not have made this video if it was not for the blatant misrepresentation through extremely reputable company, and if we had not seen it before, thankfully this was the first that we own this way, but we had heard the horror stories Just absolutely unreal. Watch part three if you have not already.
I have a 1965 Fiat 500 Nueva. Everything is present. 13HP two cylinder enging. Fiurspeed manual. The tires are from the late 60's or very early 70's. Body is solid, short of some surface rust. For a none frame off resteration. The employee quoted me a restoration price of $100,000. I told him off.😂😂
@DavisOffRoad1 If I may be so bold as to ask. What would you charge fo the same work? Granted the car has not been driven. Since the late 60's early 70's?
I've been building cars since the mid seventies. The past few years I started building one or two at a time and if they don't want it right I don't take the job. Call them out they make us all look bad.
That's the way I was taught. My Dad was a farmer and he painted semi. trailers. I was taught to prep them and later paint. If it wasn't right the ole man would give us hell but lessons stuck.
I’m watching with the volume muted . The biggest problem I see is the rear axle is crooked . The spacing at the driver side rear inner fender well compared to the passenger side is ridiculous. This thing drives in circles
@@DavisOffRoad1 Good deal . I’m glad to see it being corrected . Was I right ? Was the rear axle as cattywampus as it looked ? I had the same issue on a 💩lift job years ago
@@Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee that part has not been checked but it could have a broke center pin in it for sure which is easy fix but causes big problems
The only way you buy a vehicle site unseen is for its scrap value. That’s a good year square body, and it looks like you have some work to do and it should be worth it, but don’t cry to me about buying a vehicle site unseen…
Zero crying just educating people that may not know keep watching you will see. And we bought somewhere near 20,000 vehicles in our time majority of them being site unseen when you deal with the right people business goes the right way when you deal with crooks this is what you see.
....All of it was bad, but man that black spray paint all over the engine and engine bay ,and EVERYTHING in it. What kind of lunatic thought that was a good idea? I mean how could you stand there spraying all that and see it and just keep on doing it, and be thinking "Oh yeah man this looks PROFESSIONAL ! "
It looks like the dash was to an original 6.2 l diesel. The glued badge covers the tank transfer switch hole. Rush build, by someone where a dollar means more than their reputation. Build em like your Grandma will be driving your Momma in it. God bless at God's speed
@DavisOffRoad1 I just can't believe how the spray paint under the hood is made to look decent from one side for pictures and it's barely covered on the other side. WTF??!!
Yep, a good 30 foot truck. Up close it's a mess. I would definitely return this junk. If not I would want a serious price reduction to help pay for some of your costs to repair/upgrade the shoddy work.
I can tell you as an old school doing body work the box and cab don’t line up and same with the gaps in the tailgate. Yes that is the worst frame off I have ever seen!
I could see the door not lining up with the fender, not lining up with the bed within the first 20 seconds. Just based on how the truck sits, i would have passed.
I have a difficult time understanding why you would not push back against this truck because it's clearly not what you thought you were paying for. I would certainly want restitution! This is lipstick on a pig
Unfortunately, not really an option last year, able to go to these auctions and facilities in person which we do not have the time staff or ability to do
Bought a 78 c10 at auction last year... lots of new parts but lots of shoddy workmanship.. I got hosed big time and the auctioneer outright lied about some things and didn't disclose known problems... going to lose my shirt on this one
This truck was converted to single tank. Where they had that 1500 badge glued to the dash is right where the selector switch would be. I'd rather drive a square that was looking more like swiss cheese than this one. And as much as I hate to say this but this one would be better off as a parts truck at this point. Something else I noticed is it looks like the left rear is farther forward than the right rear unless the bed is twisted to the left.
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Call them out... As a customer, we deserve to know who NOT to go to. Thanks.
Well, fortunately, they do not sell to the public. I have found out and have had an extensive conversation with the Auction as well and out of respect we’re going to keep it unnamed, but you won’t run across this again. I can assure that.
Unacceptable….
I would definitely call this builder out!!! This shit gives all car guy's a bad name!!! Shame on the auction company for not disclosing the condition of this truck!!!
There’s a lot of things that should have been disclosed, but it’s part of the industry unfortunately just have to learn but out of respect, we won’t disclose the Auction, the seller or the builder when we could easily definitely make them all the laughing stock of the Internet with a push of a button
@@DavisOffRoad1 all that does is allow someone else to get taken by not calling them out. Not everyone is restoration savvy to see all the shortcomings.
@@dondagy9109 i can agree on that point as well for sure. But If nothing else those that see the video and do there do diligence will understand and be more knowledgeable on things. Hey maybe thats all the ability that shop has who knows.... we just rather take the higher road at this point and let others learn that may stumble upon the video etc.
@@DavisOffRoad1so you prefer to protect the guilty parties while less knowledgeable customers get screwed .
Bottom line, you have to inspect what you buy. Every time.
Wow. I’d send that back to auction and arbitrate it. Definitely not frame off. That truck is a mess.
It was yes on its way to big changes now
Send it back. No if's &s or but's... that is fraud. Call them out.
Have a chat with the general manager tomorrow I think they realize they messed up
Not calling them out , is bad on you. That truck is shit. Barley Worth 3500.00 as far as I'm concerned
It still has a decent value. It is a good running fuel injected short bed Chevy. Keep watching. Trust me what goes around comes around get the popcorn 🍿 ready for this one
I’m really glad that you did this video to show people that don’t know any better what to look for. There is nothing worse than having to tell someone that they bought junk when they bring it to you to check it out!
That's a lipstick restore. Flippers f up everything.
Yup they do
I have seen a truck from mecum that looks like this. Nice cruiser, but there is clear coat runs all around the bottom. Did you buy it sight unseen? Buyers need to do their research.
It’s a damn shame, those trucks are one of the easiest trucks to restore. Everything is available parts-wise and relatively affordable. They are easy to wrench on, there isn’t anything on the truck that’s difficult to work on if you know what you’re doing. Disgraceful.
You’re exactly right
Absolutely. I recently bought a 1978 GMC K15 Stepside. Got doors, rockers, fenders, fender wells etc for literally less than $1000. You can get parts for these trucks all day long. Just have to put in the labor.
Yup!
Yep. My first vehicle was an 80 Gmc short bed. Tough ass truck. It was eating the 5.0 mustangs any day.
NIce......I especially like how the engine compartment was painted without cleaning or priming...very nice!
😂😂 and they even missed half of that part
Wow,that is crazy,a waste of ruining a square body,I've always said,WY do people that can't do it right waste ruining a squarebody,Keep ur hands of if u can't do it right! THANKS FOR SHARING THIS.
Amen !
Lol
Ruined!?!
Not even close
@@fastinradfordable Buy it then!
The 2 big auction places are a joke. Destroys the hobby in my opinion. A few years ago, my elderly neighbor wanted a change, so went to MECUM. He sold a truly legit 69 427 vette. Bought a 67 failane gt that was absolute junk with a paint job. MECUM did nothing, dude who sold it said "you bought it". Thanks for doing this video. People need to know about the crap on the market right now.
Yes, sir you are 100% correct. It’s a shame but if you don’t have a critical eye your gonna get screwed at these prices
They need to be named so nobody else gets scammed, that's crazy that an auction would let it go like that.
Watch episode 3 where it even shows on the screen restoration frame off and custom interior 😂
"Looks like Ray Charles did it....on a bad day." 🤣💀😂 love the humor.
😂😂😂
Because they knew someone would buy it from the internet, nobody would have bought this in person! Sorry fellas.
Yep you’re right. But frame off restoration description 😂 wow. That’s just a bold face cover up lie. But it worked… in theory but pretty sure there will be less of it because not many in the square world miss our channel or other social media outlets we have. Just hope lesson learned and it doesn’t cost anymore. Every penny they have saved for a kids first time truck that they dreamed of and saved for … then it would really be a bad bad day
You have to know what you are buying and just replace the door hinges and alignment and accept what you bought. That's a great year model of truck. So I really don't feel bad for you guys for buying. If you don't check it out first before buying? It's your loss
We don’t feel bad either just trying to educate people that don’t know so that they don’t buy something like this with all their money and have no more money to spend. We will make it into a nice truck.
Love my 1978 Chevrolet Silverado drive it everyday. Take care of it and you will not have to replace it
Sad enough these trucks cost so much now. Even worse when people get away with selling them in this kind of condition at those prices
Oh it’s far worse sometimes this just tip of iceberg we have seen worse
Dammitson. You can put lipstick on a pig. But they even screwed that up
😂😂😂
Remember when the doors would sag and the hoods would bend in middle.junk
Oh we remember well
Lol the gages holding the ashtray up and the emblem covering the tank selector hole that's great
Seriously nice effort they put into it lol
@@DavisOffRoad1 lol oh yeah
The gauges were also in the way of the shifter.
They painted the air cleaner
Quality Door Striker Bolt kit for both doors are about $20 total. I'm 70 years old, it took me less than ten minutes to remove install and adjust both doors.
The frame issues and especially those leaf spring shackles and bushings were criminal. Someone could be killed with that monkey business.
The front is too high looks silly.
Yep you are correct
They are called rust trucks for a good reason
😂😂
So why not call these people out?
Its the ONLY way to keep people from getting ripped off by these criminals.
Part 3 will explain a lot
I mean if it was just a guy fixing up his truck and not a professional he did a good enough job,looks like a decent driver..When I was 16 I thought I did a awesome job but if I would see them now I probably would cringe...The problem is the auction company mislabeling the truck...then again auctions are auctions,I have seen junk go for $90k before!
I am into Mopar and you see so many so-called restored and they are worse than this truck! Missing trim,crappy done interior with parts missing and total junk..1/4 panels wrong and engines rebuilt with performance parts and they are slower than a smaller stock base engine etc..etc..
Yes, you are correct. The list could go on.
And yes, if it wasn’t for the representation of frame off, which we have the photo on the Jumbotron showing frame off restoration properly done etc that’s the part that made it bad not bad but TERRIBLE if it just ran across the block as an average old truck, we would’ve purchased it as an average old truck and we would’ve been pleased not happy but we would have got what we bargained for
I disagree! Whoever built this went out of their way to purposely deceive the buyer from the problems! All that undercoating and paint to cover/hide rust is despicable! My guess is the further you dig into this, the more problems you will find!
The duel tank switch is missing and the instrument panel looks like it's from a diesel truck. The body looks real nice. I had two square bodies and they always broke down and needed to be fixed all of the time and I don't miss them trucks.
They do require their upkeep and maintenance for sure but thankfully parts are easily available
I came to the comments to make a comment, but it looks like many others have already said what I was about to say! I fully understand the maturity and professionalism about not mentioning the "culprits", but unless you got this truck for a price you can't say no to, I believe you should try to return it. Just to make the auction house think twice next time, plus maybe cause some tension between the auction house and the seller/rebuilder.
Otherwise, as you said, if you make a few repairs and make the truck right, this truck will get scarfed up in no time, I'm sure. They're very desirable now, as you know!
PS. Kudos to you for not trying to pass it on as is.
Thanks for the comment and watch episode 3 it gets better
Thanks for sharing this information to the classic truck community, sorry you ended up with the truck, but you are a much bigger and better man for excepting it and moving forward.
Well it’s the way we were brought up .. isn’t always the best business move for making money, but best move as a man
I drive past your shop a lot on my way home to Chester from Richmond and gawk at your trucks while driving by. You have some nice stuff there. I bought my carport from you guys a long time ago.
Very cool! Stop in check the new facilities out sometime
@@DavisOffRoad1 will do thanks.
From 10 feet away It looks good. I had black 1983 Chevy just like it without the issues.wish I still had it.
Yep this is a 100 footer lol
I know why all the gauges are dead. When they put the dash back in they didn't ground it.
Wish it was that easy. The wires are chopped.
@@DavisOffRoad1 that's why there is no ground connection. Every gauge on the dash needs a good ground connection. It's the common denominator.
Oh yes, you’re definitely correct on that but all of the incoming lead wires are also cut so they could do aftermarket gauges complete hack job. We are cleaning up currently.
that truck is like a real life AI generated picture lol. looks REALLY good from a distance until you just start paying just a LITTLE attention 😂
True that! Very much so
Holy cow.
I am currently doing my first ever restoration on an 85 GMC, and I am in no way an expert, but I wouldn't even think to cut the corners they did.
Oh and the hole they decided to put a badge over in the cab was the switch to change fuel tanks.
Sure was very sloppy work
In the words of the great philospher Robert Palmer, "A pretty face dont make a pretty heart"
Dang right
I've been to auto auctions over the past 18 years. It's a 50/50 on good verse lemon. These days over raided prices. For beer cans sitting on rubber. I'm still driving a 90 truck. If it breaks fix it. Keep on trucking. Cheers.
Yes, sir, you are correct but the auction house has some responsibility. They do have eyes and can see the misrepresentation was not only by the seller, but also by the auction for not catching this.
Thank you for posting this.
The uninformed and inexperienced could learn to just look a little closer at the details that make these "restorations" valuable. From your short walkaround, I see less than 400$ in parts needed, with the time and know-how that would have yielded a 40k truck. no excuses for not adjusting the bed correctly, replacing pedal pads, ALL bushings, a weekend under the hood, my god...can just keep going. buff and wax. And to think that whoever did this, it's not the first time. Screwing ppl for years I'd bet.
This is the “I gotta buddy who builds these trucks “ type of build 😂
YOU HAVE GOT THAT RIGHT !!!! Spot on my man we hear it every day and this is the result
I guarantee whoever did this really wouldn't care if you called them out.
They might not get any more big auction sales. But they know their local/regional clientele will be happy roll around in what looks like a $40k truck for just $18k all day long.
Considering they wanted almost 40… they knew how and where to place it to hoodoo someone
My buddy bought a 70 Charger convertible like this. But he knew it was cobbled together. Before buying. The body and frame were solid and paint was good. So he still bought it.
Clue #1 Scooby-Doo. Never buy a truck with a roll pan. Especially a restoration with one.
We deff hate a roll pan
This is the shit I live for. Thanks for showing their mistakes on their "show quality" build. This happens far too much. However the amount of class it takes to redo their bandaids and boogers without trashing them on broadcast here is hard to come by. Good on you. We are all in this business supposedly for passion of the craft, however for most that soons turns to bs baby back bitching about being broke or someone stirring a pot of drama. So it's cool to see someone pick it apart without the drama, just like the real life stuff we see EVERYDAY. We don't worry about who did it, we do it right so there is no need to question again.
Yes, sir, could not have said it better myself. Follow along. It’s a pretty interesting journey.
I never would have seen these mistakes until after I bought it😮
As would most anyone else also the purpose for the series of videos is just educate the public that may or may not know
thanks for watching this truck was solely bought off of description and the announced condition and was a blatent misrepresentation obviously
That’s something one would do to ‘fix up an old beater’ that you’re going to actually drive and use. To try and pass it off as a ‘frame of restoration’ is beyond ridiculous and shady. As one who has been in the old car industry since high school, I’ve seen plenty of stuff that is like this and when I’ve sold them, I let the buyer know EXACTLY what they’re getting, a cool old ride that you can do some finish work to and make it even better. But I never could sleep at night trying to pass off junk as a restored ride.
That’s one of the reasons for our detailed videos we feel like it helps the customers tremendously seeing what they’re getting. We also put a lot of faith in people actually representing Vehicles properly though and that’s the side of this one that is so wrong and we see so much of it happen, we are typically able to catch it, but it catches a lot of others their pants down unfortunately
It’s the bane of the industry. It really gives those who actually give a crap a bad rep because of sleazeballs who are just out to make a quick buck.
For 25 years I’ve done paint and body work. I’ve seen so many people get ripped off by some charlatan with a lipsticked pig for a vehicle. Heck, I beg people to just take me with them to look at something just so they don’t get ripped off, I’ve just seen it happen so much I feel bad for folks who just don’t know what to look for.
Just stumbled upon this channel. I have a buddy who sells cars and has been screwed over by auction houses. I wouldn't buy vehicles without seeing them in person. I get that's the new reality though. Great job on this video. New subscriber now!
We appreciate the sub. More fun to come for sure
Buyer beware.
What a hack job!
Send it back to the auction. That's RIDICULOUS!!
Follow along
First clue, a proper "frame off" restoration would have ensured the bodylines of the cab and bed line up.
True story should have said bed off for butcher job
That's sad! That separates the pro from the keyboard mechanics! Probably hoping some young kid would buy it before auction! Props to you for being a good man, not saying builders name!!!
You’re exactly right. They prayed on the novice for sure. And as for the name of the shop just a bigger person and a respect thing. Not that we would not like to call them out but it would cripple a business and maybe that should happen sometimes … if we save somebody else a costly mistake than it was worth it
@@DavisOffRoad1 you are definitely the bigger man! Just wanna add, a couple months ago went to Motorama in Harrisburg Pennsylvania. The so called show cars n trucks with tens of thousands dollar paint jobs with panel gap! Lol. You got a new sub my guy, much respect 💯💪🇺🇲
Oh yeah the industry is bad these days so many people just don’t see the good from bad… we can’t make every vehicle a six figure vehicle, but we can surely represent what is at hand properly
I’m sure there are legal reasons you choose not to call them out, but I can’t think of any other reason unless there is some connection with them!
I would definitly state who did the work, if for nothing else so no one else goes through this.....sad work ethics
Follow along we have more content coming on this one
I like how they put 1500 emblem were the tank selector switch use to be. I didn't see the passenger side fuel tank either.
Haha yep
Who the hell is still paying 20s for these trucks let alone 70s.. they are the cheapest and easiest to restore..
Everyone who owns one that’s for sure average price for driver quality is 25-50k across the country
Need a builders registery similar to the BBB that allows quality builders to shine while shaming the con artists
That would be epic!!!
Amazing idea
Yeah that body line just jumps out even from a distance. The so called high end auction should have caught that junk and said hell no.
Agreed I think after this video a lot of changes will take place and how vehicles are represented
You're far more forgiving than I am, I would send it back. The "restoration" was not a frame-off because if had been, they would at least have pressure washed the frame and suspension components. I'm only halfway through the video and I'm more than a little bit pissed off. I'll watch the rest and can only imagine what additional horrors await me. You're an absolute saint for not putting the builder on blast.
Wait till you see part two and soon to come part three but if nothing else, this is proven a great example we’ve had such a reach out of people thanking us for educating because this is exactly what people buy all the time over the Internet. They will quickly learn dealing with a reputable dealer will go a lot further than this backyard hack crap. We have seen it time and time and time again this is by no means the first time and won’t be the last. It will end up a nice truck for somebody, but it should’ve been to start with part three is gonna be a really good one, especially after we speak to management exposing it internally the oversight and such a blatant one.
Part three will also show the block video where in bold letters scrolling across says frame off restoration as well as so many other things that obviously are not true
@@DavisOffRoad1 I'll be very interested to see how you clean up the engine bay. What the "builder" did was criminal and made the next guy's (your) work more difficult than it would have otherwise been. I'm waiting for part three.
That’s the thing that blows my mind and all of our guys continue to say the same thing … like it could’ve been so much cleaner and well done so much easier … the work that was put to make it wrong was way way more effort
I worked for a guy that would do shit like that. He had big and grand ideas but wouldn’t want to put time in it. He’d bid every job and according to him we’d come over his bid every time. I said, “well maybe you shouldn’t be the one bidding jobs”. I soon quit after that.
If you can’t do it right, the first time don’t do it at all. This kind of work is just ridiculous to have to do after somebody attempted to do it right just takes more time and more money.
That 1500 plate may be where a factory dual-tank toggle switch was located
It was
You notice how the LR wheel isn't centered with the wheel well?
Spring pin, broken
This is why I DO NOT do auctions you have to do your due diligence when you buy a vehicle
Auctions work just fine when vehicles are represented properly we’ve been buying from auctions for 47 years and have bought and sold over 20,000 vehicles. The problem lies when they are deception and untruthful people involved with false representation.
I saw trouble from 20 feet away when the bed and cab were different heights.
Only cost 10% more to go all the way…. This is proof
Yep that’s right but in this case they went so far backwards when they could’ve been going forward for almost no extra cost
if you can't pre auction inspect it yourself hire a service to do it. If it's not as advertised you don't bid. Lack of due diligence beforehand is also foolish when your spending real money that you worked for. life lessons suck at times.
We learn lessons all the time it’s not to teach our own selves. We’ve had 50 years of doing it. It’s too educate those that don’t understand and the biggest point on this one is the misrepresentation watch episode three for the auction posted information.
I worked for a chevy dealer in TN, back in the 80s, we had 1 come in for it's first oil change at 3000 miles, our lof guy (not a kid) drained the oul and installed a new filter and lowered the truck and put new oil in it, he started in and raised it to check for leaks, it was about half way up when the harmonic ballencer went rolling across the floor, it had broken off the end of the crank, after I was done laughing I moved it across the shop and installed a new short block, just goes to show gm was making crap in the 80s
Crazy
looks like it is a nice donor for a full restoration , depends how much rust is under the shinny red paint
It’s coming along now
don't contribute to the industry bad name by NOT taking back to arbitration, with respect.
Unfortunately, Arbitration was refused
If you don't call their name out how will they learn to not do this anymore
This is still ongoing but watch episode three
These trucks were shit boxes when they came out. Most were rusty as shit within 5 years and rattled right off the dealer lot. Now they’re popular, but that doesn’t make them a quality built truck.
True but they have a great following from that era
The 1500 tag is covering a duel tank switch
Sure is
I know he bought sight unseen….but I would’ve ran as soon as I noticed the body line from the bed to cab was way off. It’s a good truck and can be fixed and is worth fixing. People using deceitful tactics of selling is nothing new, and can be found in all areas of business….
Yes, we couldn’t agree more hence the reason for this video, but we would not have made this video if it was not for the blatant misrepresentation through extremely reputable company, and if we had not seen it before, thankfully this was the first that we own this way, but we had heard the horror stories Just absolutely unreal. Watch part three if you have not already.
I have a 1965 Fiat 500 Nueva. Everything is present. 13HP two cylinder enging. Fiurspeed manual. The tires are from the late 60's or very early 70's. Body is solid, short of some surface rust. For a none frame off resteration. The employee quoted me a restoration price of $100,000. I told him off.😂😂
Crazy what it cost for sure
@DavisOffRoad1 If I may be so bold as to ask. What would you charge fo the same work? Granted the car has not been driven. Since the late 60's early 70's?
We do not take on outside work unfortunately unless it’s chassis, suspension, and performance items in the Offroad shop
I would definitely give them a call and let him know what you think.
Watch the other episodes
Seeing pictures of the engine compartment would have been a deal breaker for me. I would have passed.
Yes true
I've been building cars since the mid seventies. The past few years I started building one or two at a time and if they don't want it right I don't take the job. Call them out they make us all look bad.
That’s a good way to be … if you can’t do it right why waste time to do it completely wrong
That's the way I was taught. My Dad was a farmer and he painted semi. trailers. I was taught to prep them and later paint. If it wasn't right the ole man would give us hell but lessons stuck.
Yes proper way to do it
Makes you wonder, how much Form-A-Fender that truck has in it!
1:26 a dent on right side of tailgate about where a badge would go in the white space…
Yep
The handle looked askew as well.
Stop protecting bad shops.
Tell us who to avoid!!! They will do better or go away.
That’s the plan stay tuned
Is not the bezel dash cover originaly off a diesel with the start/wait light provision between the fuel and speedometer.
Correct
I noticed that, too. Daily drove an 89 Suburban with a 6.2L until I got t-boned a few months back. Slowly rebuilding that beast.
I’m watching with the volume muted . The biggest problem I see is the rear axle is crooked . The spacing at the driver side rear inner fender well compared to the passenger side is ridiculous. This thing drives in circles
It was a mess, but quickly becoming a nice rig
@@DavisOffRoad1
Good deal . I’m glad to see it being corrected . Was I right ? Was the rear axle as cattywampus as it looked ? I had the same issue on a 💩lift job years ago
@@Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee that part has not been checked but it could have a broke center pin in it for sure which is easy fix but causes big problems
that is a nice seat, i bet the chevy it came out of was a nice truck.
The rest of the truck will match it eventually
Easiest way to know it isn’t a frame off is all the rubberized undercoat…
First step in any hide the rust repair
Yep exactly
Put new striker bolts in, that’s fix the door closing issue, though it shouldn’t be needed on a “restored truck”
It’s all fixable the biggest part of this whole story is the representation and the expectation versus what we really received
The only way you buy a vehicle site unseen is for its scrap value. That’s a good year square body, and it looks like you have some work to do and it should be worth it, but don’t cry to me about buying a vehicle site unseen…
Zero crying just educating people that may not know keep watching you will see. And we bought somewhere near 20,000 vehicles in our time majority of them being site unseen when you deal with the right people business goes the right way when you deal with crooks this is what you see.
Total POS! Send it back, 100%. Call out the Auction House and the so called Builder.
They just spray painted over the dirt in the engine bay.
😂😂yep
At first i thought he was gonna nitpick this thing and now... Yea thats bad.
Yessss
OH but it LOOKS good driving by, but that's where it stops.
....All of it was bad, but man that black spray paint all over the engine and engine bay ,and EVERYTHING in it. What kind of lunatic thought that was a good idea? I mean how could you stand there spraying all that and see it and just keep on doing it, and be thinking "Oh yeah man this looks PROFESSIONAL ! "
😂😂😂 exactly 100% our thoughts like wtf do people think
If you don't call him out you're just as much to blame to let this go.......
Follow along there is more to the story
It looks like the dash was to an original 6.2 l diesel.
The glued badge covers the tank transfer switch hole.
Rush build, by someone where a dollar means more than their reputation.
Build em like your Grandma will be driving your Momma in it.
God bless at God's speed
We agree built it right the first time or leave it alone
Cant believe somebody wanted good money for that. I could tell from the body lines how this was going.
Yep !!
@DavisOffRoad1 I just can't believe how the spray paint under the hood is made to look decent from one side for pictures and it's barely covered on the other side. WTF??!!
Yep, a good 30 foot truck. Up close it's a mess. I would definitely return this junk. If not I would want a serious price reduction to help pay for some of your costs to repair/upgrade the shoddy work.
Watch episode 3
I can tell you as an old school doing body work the box and cab don’t line up and same with the gaps in the tailgate. Yes that is the worst frame off I have ever seen!
That’s why I’d rather build one myself not do like people say just buy one already built!
Just depends on the level you are looking for it goes both ways this one was misrepresented badly
Sight unseen from an auction. You got what you deserved buddy
I could see the door not lining up with the fender, not lining up with the bed within the first 20 seconds.
Just based on how the truck sits, i would have passed.
I have a difficult time understanding why you would not push back against this truck because it's clearly not what you thought you were paying for. I would certainly want restitution! This is lipstick on a pig
Part 3 will explain
What about inspecting the truck before buying?
Unfortunately, not really an option last year, able to go to these auctions and facilities in person which we do not have the time staff or ability to do
Bought a 78 c10 at auction last year... lots of new parts but lots of shoddy workmanship.. I got hosed big time and the auctioneer outright lied about some things and didn't disclose known problems... going to lose my shirt on this one
Welcome to the world of that same on this one direct misrepresentation
I saw no evidence that the body was off for anything except to glob it with undercoat
It wasn’t removed
This truck was converted to single tank. Where they had that 1500 badge glued to the dash is right where the selector switch would be. I'd rather drive a square that was looking more like swiss cheese than this one. And as much as I hate to say this but this one would be better off as a parts truck at this point. Something else I noticed is it looks like the left rear is farther forward than the right rear unless the bed is twisted to the left.
Good catch the center pin in the spring was broken
@@DavisOffRoad1 The I see this truck the more I want to cry like a baby. And what's under the hood exactly anyway?
350 tbi
I would send that back to the auction, where they can correctly describe the truck and see how much money it gets
Part 3 will be good
Before you ever get in the truck the passenger side door has a dent in it passenger rear wheel Arch has damaged it too
Yep
Call Em Out To Protect The Rest…!!!
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