I have a 600i with the same paint plus a Nursa in the cargo hold! You need to put a Nursa in the hold so no matter if you die from FPS ground combat or bugs etc you can respawn immediately and carry on where you left off.
I've been doing the exact same thing, the Nursa is one of the best additions imo, basically allows you to turn whatever holds it into a modular vehicle bay that is now just a med bay 😂😂
I disagree with your opinion about the cockpit chairs (which one's pilot) because I fly with crew and having 2 crew in front of you looks so effing cool. Great video! 600i is an awesome ship and the rework can't come soon enough.
I recently just got the 600i, and yes it's really slow. What I do to off set that problem is to put full power to thrusters when turning and boosting this allows me to face my guns and turn quicker and then I go to full weapons or shields depending on the situation. I really love the 600i and it's only going to get better when they add the balancing of stats since all ships are all lumped into a category with standard stats. The 600i should be a little more maneuverable because of its GLAX plating which is a lighter hull that allows it to be faster in its category.
@@razakan4102 If the original concept brochure that was shown is true, they did mention that the 600i had GLAX plating making it more maneuverable compared to other ships in its class. "The 600i's hull features Origin's proprietary new GLAX plating, allowing the ship to be much lighter than comparably sized ships."
@@olternaut no this was the original idea based on the brochure they showed. Im guessing since the armor implementation hasn’t been implemented GLAX hasn’t been developed yet. Once the armor system comes in, we will probably see an iteration of the GLAX plating.
The 600i has indeed had it's maneuverability severely nerfed from what it was in 3.22.1 (pre-MasterModes). It is now approximately half the pitch, yaw and roll that it once had.
To combat the slow turning some, when the npc does the whole joust roll to the direction he passes you on. Your ship will turn faster on pitch rather than turning on yaw. I’ve actually killed a few infernos in my Connie bc they attempted to circle strafe me and let me roll to a pitch turn and they never corrected by doing a half roll themselves. I’ve also found with cannons on ERTs try to hang around 1-1.5km from the target and keep a constant circle strafe. If the target comes within that 1km range adjust by using strafe up or down until you’ve got distance outside 1km. This will keep your shields virtually unscathed and allow you 95% of the time to keep full power to guns. Only issue I’ve been having this patch with ERTs is it seems every ship wants to ram you.
Well this is just what i think, but i do thing the 600i will get an upgrade on weapons... when the fix the interior which i hope is soon, they might give it a gun more, Why you ask well look at the connie, now it can mount 4 size 5 guns and look at the missile loadout on it... Now look at the price compared to the 600i the 600i is an origin ship yes but its an tier above the connie series, and imo it should atleast have the same defences as the connie aquila. But thats just my op and a way to fix it without changeing its outer looks now make the 3 guns size 6 and automate the 2 small turrets (like on the perseus) and wupti it makes sence again :)
I've been flying with a 600i Explorer as my Flagship for a few years now. *_Absolutely_* the handling was nerfed by MM. When MM launched, the 600i went from having the best speed and handling in its class, to having the same speed and handling... of the CAT. But I also flew both it and my Ares Ion against the XT Idris during the event. The 600i, as bad off as it was, was still better able to keep its nose on the pip and consistently delivered precise DPS on the Idris that the Ares. Most of my fleet is Origin and Crusader, neither of them came out well from the MM changes. Of the 19 ships in my fleet, _none_ of them fly well in MM other than my 125a and my 325a.
I love the 600 and most Origin ships for that matter lol. And they did make bigger ships more sluggish, which is why I stopped pledging new ships. Many times I've seen them make a ship really apealing with great stats to encourage pledging and then within 6 months nerf the piss out of it making them flying turds. I never buy concept JPEG's anymore and wait for them to be flight ready and then wait some more until they nerf it 2 or 3 more times before considering even pledging it. Inferno & ION are examples of what I mean by taking a good ship and screwing it up. The ION now seems to be slowly coming back to being a viable option. Thanks for the video.
@@shmayazuggot8558 Why not? If you drive a tank, are you allowed to ram another vehicle to disable it? In this fantasy world, ships have shields and armor. Maybe the ai is ment to do it, forcing the player to adjust tactics. Also consider the following. If you are fighting in a 2 vs 1, you are losing, and you know you're toast. May as well try to crash into someone if you have a chance right? And remember kamikaze pilots in ww2? The real world is truely horrific.
I got an 600i and an RSI Aquila (2950 Exploration Megapack) and would prefer the Aquila, because it got 4 S5 instead (600i only 3 S5) if solo Bounty-Hunting with large ships. The Conni Taurus/Andromeda can be brought to same DPS like the Aquila. Why Conni? It's a bit cheaper than the 600i but the 600i has 2 Shields. If you have both, choose whatever you want. For me the Conni is my alltime favourite so far. But I will keep the 600i
I love the 600i, especially with this paint. But they made it so sluggish I decided to melt it. The C2 Hercules is currently as sluggish, which is fair, these are big ships with dual S3 shields. But the C2 is a lot more useful and has an enormous range. So I kept my C2. However I was lucky enough to get a Constellation Phoenix during ILW. I’ve put a Nursa in it for the ultimate bunker runner. It’s my third Connie, I already have the Andromeda for ERT duty and Taurus for cargo. At least until the Zeus hits the pledge store. Tried the Sabre Firebird. Very nice design. However it is a weird ship. Its dps is too low (only two S3 guns) to even go beyond HRT imho. And the missiles, even if they will be doubled, are very hit and miss. They don’t do much damage with shielded targets and the Firebird is too fragile and low on dps to down shields effectively before a missile volley. The best usage is when using it in a group as a support fighter, only then it will be really deadly. Cheers o7
Yeah, all big ships are the same but that will change. This was just to convert to master modes. Phoenix is an amazing ship. I played ERT with it and shredded everything. I got a firebird because I am a sucker for a nice design but will not keep it properly for a long time. o7
It seems like sometimes shots won't register unless your crosshair is green when you fire, regardless of using lead or lag pip and the shots visibly lands on the target. Hopefully fixed next patch.
how are you getting 20 ammo with the size 5's? Erkul says 15 and my exact same M7A loadout also only has 15. Where are you getting the additional rounds from? I also noticed the same thing with your ballistic gatlings, your ship loaded with 2k and mine loads with 1800?
That's exactly what I was thinking... it's all so bright when there is fight you should go into some combat dimmed mode... and what is even more confusing they were talking about how light switch should work and how you can customize lights... but all I see it's just another talk and still didn't got into game...
Gosh, have they really still not fixed the HUD overlap with the MFDs? It's been ages... FYI shields were all normalized in 3.23, they're all the same. There's no point in upgrading them.
It feels slow because they nerfed its handling to other heavy fat ships like starfarer, C2/M2/A2, caterpillar etc. So much for Origin speed and lightweight GLAX plating.
The Ai ramming has been going on for years and I really dislike playing when they do this so regularly. No other flight/space sim has ramming AI, they really need to fix this ridiculous behaviour.
Check out Avenger 1 keybind video. You need like 3 setting on a keybind. Ui gunnery magnification, something else and gravity assist. I have them all mapped to 1 keybind. o7
I have a 600i with the same paint plus a Nursa in the cargo hold! You need to put a Nursa in the hold so no matter if you die from FPS ground combat or bugs etc you can respawn immediately and carry on where you left off.
I've been doing the exact same thing, the Nursa is one of the best additions imo, basically allows you to turn whatever holds it into a modular vehicle bay that is now just a med bay 😂😂
Just bring a second gear and weapons with you because I often forgot to do it and am unable to loot my body in hostile zones.
How do you load the Nursa, do you have to be on a planet to call multiple vehicles?
I disagree with your opinion about the cockpit chairs (which one's pilot) because I fly with crew and having 2 crew in front of you looks so effing cool. Great video! 600i is an awesome ship and the rework can't come soon enough.
@@mazack00 Cool factor 10, tactical awareness 5. Only because of that. o7
@@infinitespace239 Targets are icons. Field of view is for weenies. Rule of cool wins.
I recently just got the 600i, and yes it's really slow. What I do to off set that problem is to put full power to thrusters when turning and boosting this allows me to face my guns and turn quicker and then I go to full weapons or shields depending on the situation. I really love the 600i and it's only going to get better when they add the balancing of stats since all ships are all lumped into a category with standard stats. The 600i should be a little more maneuverable because of its GLAX plating which is a lighter hull that allows it to be faster in its category.
Great piece of information. Thank you
Has that been confirmed or is it just your educated opinion? I love the 600i and would love for this to be true.
@@razakan4102 If the original concept brochure that was shown is true, they did mention that the 600i had GLAX plating making it more maneuverable compared to other ships in its class. "The 600i's hull features Origin's proprietary new GLAX plating, allowing the ship to be much lighter than comparably sized ships."
This isn't the rework version correct?
@@olternaut no this was the original idea based on the brochure they showed. Im guessing since the armor implementation hasn’t been implemented GLAX hasn’t been developed yet. Once the armor system comes in, we will probably see an iteration of the GLAX plating.
When I listened to Your set-up I slowly said "He builds it as I do.." This earned You a subscription! 600i Love!
Thanks mate, yeah amazing ship hope we get rework soon. o7
The 600i has indeed had it's maneuverability severely nerfed from what it was in 3.22.1 (pre-MasterModes). It is now approximately half the pitch, yaw and roll that it once had.
To combat the slow turning some, when the npc does the whole joust roll to the direction he passes you on. Your ship will turn faster on pitch rather than turning on yaw.
I’ve actually killed a few infernos in my Connie bc they attempted to circle strafe me and let me roll to a pitch turn and they never corrected by doing a half roll themselves.
I’ve also found with cannons on ERTs try to hang around 1-1.5km from the target and keep a constant circle strafe. If the target comes within that 1km range adjust by using strafe up or down until you’ve got distance outside 1km.
This will keep your shields virtually unscathed and allow you 95% of the time to keep full power to guns.
Only issue I’ve been having this patch with ERTs is it seems every ship wants to ram you.
Thank you for the tips. Will try it. o7
Love the mass effect music on this big fight
Well this is just what i think, but i do thing the 600i will get an upgrade on weapons... when the fix the interior which i hope is soon, they might give it a gun more, Why you ask well look at the connie, now it can mount 4 size 5 guns and look at the missile loadout on it... Now look at the price compared to the 600i the 600i is an origin ship yes but its an tier above the connie series, and imo it should atleast have the same defences as the connie aquila.
But thats just my op and a way to fix it without changeing its outer looks now make the 3 guns size 6 and automate the 2 small turrets (like on the perseus) and wupti it makes sence again :)
They need to dim the lights when in the pilot seat
They need to give us button to turn it completely off.
This
I've been flying with a 600i Explorer as my Flagship for a few years now. *_Absolutely_* the handling was nerfed by MM. When MM launched, the 600i went from having the best speed and handling in its class, to having the same speed and handling... of the CAT.
But I also flew both it and my Ares Ion against the XT Idris during the event. The 600i, as bad off as it was, was still better able to keep its nose on the pip and consistently delivered precise DPS on the Idris that the Ares.
Most of my fleet is Origin and Crusader, neither of them came out well from the MM changes. Of the 19 ships in my fleet, _none_ of them fly well in MM other than my 125a and my 325a.
I love the 600 and most Origin ships for that matter lol. And they did make bigger ships more sluggish, which is why I stopped pledging new ships. Many times I've seen them make a ship really apealing with great stats to encourage pledging and then within 6 months nerf the piss out of it making them flying turds. I never buy concept JPEG's anymore and wait for them to be flight ready and then wait some more until they nerf it 2 or 3 more times before considering even pledging it. Inferno & ION are examples of what I mean by taking a good ship and screwing it up. The ION now seems to be slowly coming back to being a viable option. Thanks for the video.
Ramming is a valid tactic.
No other flight sim has ever used this as a tactic nor does any fighter pilot use this as a tactic in the real world. It’s pure stupidity at best!
@@shmayazuggot8558 Why not? If you drive a tank, are you allowed to ram another vehicle to disable it? In this fantasy world, ships have shields and armor. Maybe the ai is ment to do it, forcing the player to adjust tactics.
Also consider the following. If you are fighting in a 2 vs 1, you are losing, and you know you're toast. May as well try to crash into someone if you have a chance right?
And remember kamikaze pilots in ww2?
The real world is truely horrific.
It's a valid tactic, but it does an absolutely insane amount of damage.
I got an 600i and an RSI Aquila (2950 Exploration Megapack) and would prefer the Aquila, because it got 4 S5 instead (600i only 3 S5) if solo Bounty-Hunting with large ships. The Conni Taurus/Andromeda can be brought to same DPS like the Aquila.
Why Conni? It's a bit cheaper than the 600i but the 600i has 2 Shields. If you have both, choose whatever you want. For me the Conni is my alltime favourite so far. But I will keep the 600i
Exactly ☺️ Cony is amazing now.
Master modes mmm yeah let nerf everything and call it a upgrade😂
I love the 600i, especially with this paint. But they made it so sluggish I decided to melt it. The C2 Hercules is currently as sluggish, which is fair, these are big ships with dual S3 shields. But the C2 is a lot more useful and has an enormous range. So I kept my C2. However I was lucky enough to get a Constellation Phoenix during ILW. I’ve put a Nursa in it for the ultimate bunker runner. It’s my third Connie, I already have the Andromeda for ERT duty and Taurus for cargo. At least until the Zeus hits the pledge store. Tried the Sabre Firebird. Very nice design. However it is a weird ship. Its dps is too low (only two S3 guns) to even go beyond HRT imho. And the missiles, even if they will be doubled, are very hit and miss. They don’t do much damage with shielded targets and the Firebird is too fragile and low on dps to down shields effectively before a missile volley. The best usage is when using it in a group as a support fighter, only then it will be really deadly. Cheers o7
Yeah, all big ships are the same but that will change. This was just to convert to master modes. Phoenix is an amazing ship. I played ERT with it and shredded everything.
I got a firebird because I am a sucker for a nice design but will not keep it properly for a long time. o7
Same experience, she can shoot down most big ships, but medium ones like Connies and Corsair are a pain because of the constant ramming and nosing.
I bought this ship and I love it but man I cannot wait for the rework to come out.
@@johnnymclemore8255 Same here but I didn't get it for real money, waiting for rework lol 😆
@@infinitespace239 I am afraid of a ship wipe so I try to purchase my favorite ships with cash.
@@johnnymclemore8255 Me too the ones I really like especially.
Anytime 600i clips another ship in a fight it explodes. 😂
It seems like sometimes shots won't register unless your crosshair is green when you fire, regardless of using lead or lag pip and the shots visibly lands on the target.
Hopefully fixed next patch.
I noticed that too, hopefully it will be fixed.
how are you getting 20 ammo with the size 5's? Erkul says 15 and my exact same M7A loadout also only has 15. Where are you getting the additional rounds from?
I also noticed the same thing with your ballistic gatlings, your ship loaded with 2k and mine loads with 1800?
Put power to weapons and you will have more ammo. Ballistics are the same. o7
I wish you could turn off the lights in the cockpit
Yeah for every ship I would love that in the game.
That's exactly what I was thinking... it's all so bright when there is fight you should go into some combat dimmed mode... and what is even more confusing they were talking about how light switch should work and how you can customize lights... but all I see it's just another talk and still didn't got into game...
have you tried vtol mode enabled in space and going back when target aproaches?
No, I didn't even know that 600i has VTOL, cool thanks.
Gosh, have they really still not fixed the HUD overlap with the MFDs? It's been ages...
FYI shields were all normalized in 3.23, they're all the same. There's no point in upgrading them.
welp, I was an easy target in Xenothreat. Very disappointing.
It feels slow because they nerfed its handling to other heavy fat ships like starfarer, C2/M2/A2, caterpillar etc. So much for Origin speed and lightweight GLAX plating.
They have nerfed all ships just to convert them into master modes. They will fix it in future.
Master modes has ruined bigger ships
The Ai ramming has been going on for years and I really dislike playing when they do this so regularly. No other flight/space sim has ramming AI, they really need to fix this ridiculous behaviour.
Check out Avenger 1 keybind video. You need like 3 setting on a keybind. Ui gunnery magnification, something else and gravity assist. I have them all mapped to 1 keybind. o7
Already set it up and still it is sluggish. Thank you for the tip.
@@infinitespace239 your pip is too small, gravity assist, gsafe and pression lines. More control better aiming.
@@Chase_The_Calm_Gaming Yeah I know I set it up to toggle and forgot to toggle it lol 😂
For the love of god lower your vjoy already
Please explain. Is that the range at which you need to drag the mouse to reach full turn?
Yeah please explain 🫡