One thing I didn’t mention because I figured it out after I made the commentary. Head to Head and Scramble’s don’t give you rep anymore even if you do them legitimately. They changed it to fix the exploit. So now it’s even harder to rep up... go figure.
Ghillie you’re misunderstanding Rockstar’s goal: it’s to get people to pay for shark cards. Think about it why would a 90’s Toyota be 30mph faster than a fucking F1? To make more money.
@@normalpersonlivingtheirlife Uh, you can't buy ranks. You get a trade price unlock every 5 levels, so theoretically once you hit level 85, you'll have every vehicle trade price from the update. There's still like 50+ pieces of clothing you need to rank up to unlock, and it's not to something sensible like 200 or 250, it's fucking ONE THOUSAND. It's not like Arena War where you can still buy stuff but it's 2x the price or w/e, no, you just can't buy it at all. Also, an extra 300k on average isn't gonna influence shark card sales much. Not every single person wants to buy every single car, plus you can win some just by playing the game, no RNG necessary.
Of course they don’t. That’s what game testers are for. The testers probably just leveled up the first 10 levels and were like: “This’ll work”, without realizing how tedious the grind would become long term
Updates are fair, but only if they improve on issues voiced by gamers, like doing business in public lobbies, balanced missions i.e. endless NPC's with inhuman accuracy you must defeat.
@@MegaBadgeman Rapid Fire Animation or Glitch kills you in less than a second! That's the worse thing Rockstar has done! Some people say it's fun and normal, but when an NPC with an assault rifle does damage like a guy with minigun we have a huge problem.
LOL even worse. They don't even TEST it.... when you see at the insane amounts of bugs this new DLC put into the game. It's not even funny anymore... Not even Cayo Perico was THIS bugridden at release...
My account is at over 3k races played with 1300 wins, like WTAF R* no one has that amount of time to grind, I’ve been playing since 2016 and this is just absurd
Let me be clear, this update is really cool for the content that they release however, the biggest problem with it is that they reused this same stupid rep system that everyone hated from Arena Wars back in 2018. Nobody is going to keep replaying these same races just to grind all that rep, they will probably be AFKing to get more REP until Rockstar finally patches it out or if they actually care make changes to the rep system to where it doesn't become such a major pain to grind all of it. Also the Auto shop is a scam. All you get is just the same custom auto shop that you've seen already. You already have one in your CEO office and also if you want to play the new Contract Missions you have no other choice but to buy the Auto Shop just play them. Again its the same issue with Arena Wars where you had to buy the Arena just to play the modes. How can Rockstar repeat the same mistake?
Even if the auto shop didn’t have a single mission it’s worth it for me JUST for the unlocked paint jobs and the 10 car garage A maxed auto shop is only worth doing cayo percio 3 times I could do that in less 3 hours I go into every dlc expecting to waste money so I’m always happy whenever it actually does something useful Like in this case a new garage or even better unlocking all paint jobs
@@myfatassdick man if it wasn’t for Cayo Perico I would have been screwed in this update. I looked up how to speed run it fully stealth and it’s a easy quick 1.5mil every hour and I’m only getting faster at completing it. Then I run contract missions during the cool down, In a week I doubled the money I started with. So R* did that one thing that saved the game for me cause all I do with my friend now is give them most of the cut so they can earn some money. Then we can play however we want without caring about the money.
@@maxx6526 as soon as all the cars has been released and i'm done lvl'ing up my rep to unlock the liveries i'm never stepping foot in the car meet again. i'm quite litterally going insane grinding this shit
@@maxx6526 so i've been farming rp using a race called "#DUB# fast race for farming rep. And got it down to where a race takes about 1-2 min. Before the next race starts. I am now lvl 89 so i'm slowly getting there
Rockstar should implement 2 part updates. We get the first initial update with everything in it, but then the next week we get another update where the make reasonable changes based on feedback.
😂😂😂 right. I just really don't understand why they're not more responsive with the community. Worked out so well with Epic Games and Fortnite. This shit just feels toxic 😂.
It should, at most, cap it out at 300 rep which is rank 43 from the formula that GTASeriesVideos provided. That's roughly a rank a day when doing all the daily bonuses that's doable for a solo player.
I replicate a lot of irl cars in gta, I would literally pay a million to have some of the liveries but nonono I have to do thousands of races to even be able to buy them
A bit like research for the bunker? You pay either by fast tracking or decreased product by assigning staff to it, but you still have to purchase it afterwards.
@@Dginny865 You're, talented, using lmao as an example of proper grammar, no period at the end of your sentence; I guess even fools antagonize fools however.
Bro I already gave up the grind of rep. I’m not even rank 20 and gave up already. They should at least make it able for you to just buy the unlocks like arena workshop.
Who Am I ? Yup this is pretty much my exact routine I’m level 117 now but I did like 4 days straight of AFK over night and most of the day Does calling the car into the club give rep? I thought it did too but never seen it happen Actually maybe it happens when I spawn in because that’s my spawn point
While I find it cool that you have unlockable items that reflect how good or dedicated of a driver you are, they NEED to allow you to buy the liveries at least or expand the rep system by a longshot. Allow the auto shop to increase your rep, allow ANY street or stunt races to increase rep, let alone increase the amount of rep you get in general.
I think I understand why others were telling me this DLC would die very quickly. When I think about it, Cayó perico and Diamond Casino DLC did not die this quickly.
Cayo perico was a way to earn money, car meet is a thing which you check once and have no purpose to visit again cause you seen everything it has to offer
The way it could stay alive was if they actually made the rep system more of something which you can earn. At this moment the rep system is a joke. Ultimately your best method is to go afk. When your game is literally saying being afk is better than actually playing the game then there's no wonder it's dead. Like at least have something to grind. If contract missions actually gave reps people would be playing it a lot more. Right now I don't see any reason to play it except to try it out for the first time
Man that race was hard to watch. 9/10 times I get in a race and I'm winning, I have to constantly dodge idiots who think it's a great idea to go backwards on the track. On top of that, rockstar thinks it's alright to allow them to do so, and not ghost them or just outright turn them to spectators.
Imagine thinking the green alien suits is still funny. Anyway the rep system needs to change and the overhaul recommendations you put out I agree with.
It's like spinning the wheel of REP and T-Shirt at the Casino, every day.... I swear they nerfed it too because i hardly get anything else than REP or a shit shirt.....Some chips or some cash only once in a blue moon. And the Mystery Car Van is even more impossible to win. I don't care for the podium cars either since they are all shit.
Well i am on lvl 95 on reputation, and my main goal is a livery for Calico GTF which is on 184 lvl, wish me luck, and health in doing races over and over
@@TeslaHaxz I host races and put them on max laps and drive backwards and when it's close to the end I votekick the 1st place to make him lose a lot of time and not receive anything for being 1st place + he gets 2 bad sport points for being kicked
On the first day of the update, I went straight to the car meet after checking out the new cars, there were about 3-6 people in there, roughly 4 on the test track and 2 in the car meet itself, it was quite fun but then on the second day of the update I could barely find anyone to do head to head's with.
Within the first 3 days of the DLC I managed to find people at the car meet constantly, after that it died out really quick. I was once in a lobby with 10 people there at the same time.
Tbh car meet and freeroam should be separate so you can go in the car meet be put into a car meet lobby rather than hope someone from freeroam is in there.
I'd like to think Rockstar cares, lol. They could easily rework the rep system, but nope, gotta grind till lvl 550 to get that tricolor lampadati hoodie.
I had a feeling that when I saw that Rep system when this update came out I am just like "Oh no....this is going to be Arena Wars 2.0" and my fear came true. Rockstar really messed this up. All of the clothing, custom parts, and to get your car meeting show is locked behind the stupid Rep system. What were they thinking? Did they not remember how back the Arena Wars update was back in 2018?
You know what also should give Rep? Impromptu races. They have been in game since the beginning and this was the perfect opportunity to flesh out an existing feature.
@@X_irtz You can also do that with Testtrack races, Pursuits and Street races tbh. Just create a Playlist with those new race modes and you can play it with 1 friend instead of 4 and exchange wins etc. But you're not wrong it can be abused, which is why I said they could flash it out :)
WHAT THE FUCK SERIOUSLY? Who's the team lead that 86'd half of the rep earning opportunities but killed being able to buy shit at double or triple price?? Absolutely fucking ridiculous.
Interested you brought up the outlaw pass. Speaking of RDO the grind for CaPiTAlE might be the most tedious and slowest grind I have seen in a while. So no rockstar is just shit in both games.
Yeah but what the actual fck are you grinding that for? To play a mission to unlock a hat? At least these races are fun. Might as well buy the capitale at the fence to get the missions over with. Daily grind gold gotta go somewhere once you've got the pass that's out, all the roles and clothes you wanted.
There's rly no need of even grinding for capitalé, just the first Quick Draw Club gives out a total of 65 capitalé & you only need 75 to play all 3 Opportunity missions to unlock their respective hats at Madam Nazar. All of the Crimes & Opportunities missions are practically one-&-done deals for the experience, they're not worth the grind for profitability.
I find the levels for those 10 Track Wheels and Liveries for the Tuners fair since they're up there with the trade prices for the Tuners and the new race modes, and the ability to hold your own private Car Meet, except the clothing which you do earn rep while wearing any, but not that much though, I can say the same for the new Street Races and Pursuit Races.
The max reputation rank should be 100, there's no need for it to go to 1000. By the time you hit rank 85 you'll get the discounts for every vehicle in the update, which is the main reason you'd want to rank up, not clothes
@@DemonLordGamingAC0 except you can't even purchase the clothing until you unlock them, you have to reach that rank. And getting the discounts for all 17 cars in the update doesn't even get you a tenth of the way to max. And the cars aren't that expensive, I don't think one goes over 2 mil, and the discounts don't save a ton of money on some cars. I think it was just very badly done
I felt more anger than laughter from that part. The fact, that if you are a popular youtuber and want to grind the levels and you have literal imbeciles griefing you in races is just absurd.
I'm at 102 Rep... Afking, pursuit races and all the tuner activities/bonuses done daily. 162 is the goal I've set as the further unlocks are of zero interest. Lame update overall, tons of glitches although it gave me something to do; I'm retired at this point in Los Santos at LVL 732 w/147 mil banked.
Its a bussiness thing. Having players online for an extended time being AFK creates an impression on their statistics of an highly popular dlc.this impress their stockholders. Its rockstar way of glitching their q3 report.
That was my exact thought too once I started going afk I was like “I bet this looks really good for their player retention and activity” Like how on PC steam says “69,000 users online”
I feel it couldve been slightly more successful if the music was more popular, but I hadn't heard of any of the artists announced before this. Literally the only artist I knew from the update was Dr Dre., and he didn't even have a song in the update, he was just making a cameo.
I finally found someone to do a Sprint race with yesterday, only to sit there waiting and waiting, with nothing happening. There was no countdown, but finally the route popped up on the mini-map, allowing me to go. But where the hell was the guy I was racing? His blip showed nearly at the checkpoint already. He obviously didn’t incur the same time penalty that I did. I do however, sometimes encounter people on the Test Track, parked, doing endless donuts or just driving aimlessly around. When I ask to have a race, there is rarely ever a response. Then I have to return my vehicle to storage or I will be locked in the Test Track forever, as Rockstar never thought you’d ever be ignored when you asked someone to race.
Idk I hate the rep system in red dead online because if you can’t play for some reason after buying the pass then fucking RIP all your gold That’s one of the reasons I stopped playing Now after missing everything and all those scumy limited time deals I’ll never go back to red dead online And I love single player I specifically bought a next gen console for rdr 2 after only having an Xbox 360 till late 2018 but the grind was so bad AND THERE WAS NO ANIMALS so I had to quit online after my sale wagon lost all of its pelts when I disconnected and I couldn’t get more *BECAUSE ANIMALS WERE EXTINCT*
one thing that's crazy and I don't see anyone talking about is how the Reputation system does NOT have a paid shortcut per se. *maybe* if one considers the mod shop in the car meet and clothing purchase bonuses, but those are limited, so even Shark Cards can't save it
Why in the world did they reuse the same rep system from Arena Wars? They could've improved it, but now they made it worse. I really hate the grinding. Its no wonder people have be AFK'ing all the time in car meets.
all this is because EVERY game out there with a rank up system or progression set up feels its necessary to make the grind so damn mind numbing, and dont realize, PLAYERS dont do that anymore. They will quit the game, or find other things to do within the game that are less grindy. WoW started it off with Dailies, and everyone has yet to realize that bandwagon burned down a LONG time ago...There is actually a company that has GRINDING in the title. This really needs to stop. Great suggestions, Ghil, hope they listen to you
It really does tick me off that people already don’t care about the car meet i have been trying for a while to get sprint races for the prize ride and over today and yesterday I’ve gotten 3 races done i have to rely on randoms because my friends like most people don’t even play the game anymore fucking ridiculous
I am so upset that R* didn't get a grip after the arena war system. Not even gonna mention the RWD Audi rs4. Like....we need to start a movement of some kind in order for rockstar to understand that if they listen to what we have to say, it will make their game better for everyone.
Also can we talk about how TRASH the level 1000 race suit is??? It’s literally pure blue with orange flames and it looks like a 5 year old designed them
@@lI_Speedor_Il bro that’s the one I wear and it’s so much nicer 🤣😂 like who tf is gonna waste time to rank 1000 for a blue bit of trash when the lvl 75 suit is the best 😂
The rank 75 one is far superior. & Idk if it's just that suit (haven't worn the others) but you can wear a few of the unlocked tops in special tops over it. The open wheel top looks pretty sweet over it, my character looks like a bootleg Lewis Hamilton.
I've made way more levels going afk overnight than I've earned by running races all day. Also has the added benefit of letting all your businesses convert supplies into cash, so when you come back the next morning, you have 10 new rep levels. And $3 million in products to sell every day, just from afk.
Out of curiosity, I decided to check how many races I've done in Forza Horizon 4 (a dedicated racing game)...since I've been playing that actively for over a year alongside GTA. The races are about as long as what you'd get in a typical public race in GTA. 1,954 races, and I've basically done everything there is to do, acquired basically every car (almost 750 of them), aside from a DLC pack I don't want and some impossible-to-get preorder cars. And in GTA, it takes 4.5X the amount of races to unlock everything in this DLC, at 9,000+. That is insane.
My console hasn't been turned off legitimately for like 3 days I just grind Pursuits and Streets Races till 4AM then go AFK while in the LSCM, wake up, shower, eat then rinse and repeat... this is my life now..😔
Riwi-Tia I was doing that but realized you don’t get the daily bonuses reset if you leave it on for more than 24 hours so restart gta and get those daily bonuses in the morning like mod you car do the time trial and test one of the 3 cars
**The BEST strategy so far I have found is to find a friend or another player that wants to rank up is to grind ONE LAP(cause you get same rep points no matter how many laps) races with...1st place gets 165 points and 2nd gets 157...if I can’t find anyone I just suck it up and do random races but it sucks that it’s typically set at 3 laps and that’s a waste of time..only plus side to that is I always get more points when I get 1/2/3 place.
It kinda pisses me off how so many people asked for car meets and now everytime I go , there's nobody there. Before the update there were alot of car meets in LSC and now there are none 🤦♂️
I’ve just reached Reputation 100 from going afk each night. Honestly the fact we can’t buy any of the locked items is SO bad…..like why add content that we literally CANT use??…..
I'm lucky i did the exploit to level 234 but now its absolute pain to level up, going afk at night only gets me 1 level at this point... hope they fix this
I hoped so many lobbies searching for people. 50 % of people gave up after 5 min. 30 % were to slow and 20% had difficulty finding the spot. Some didn't even have 50k
Just a reminder for any one who knows that Rockstar made midnight club, which was an amazing racing game when I was young. But for them not to have a * Wrong way * indicator that make you go the other way after 5 secs is just messed up and lazy.
It’s also super aggravating when you start or join a race that has a full lobby, but almost everyone leaves (cause they can’t finish 1st) so the RP you gain is such a small amount it’s not worth doing...
Yeah I’ve been wining pretty much every race I get into but it gives such a discouraging low amount of RP. The fact that this is the best way to level up and I’m around level 40 and it’s just going to keep getting worse per level promotion. This is really unfortunate
Imo drifting in freemode and impromptu races should give REP level, not like donuts and stuff but you know stuff that us car guys enjoy, like crusing around los santos highway, drive around the city, compete with friends in impromptu races Nd drifting in the city, stuff like that is what id give alot of rep for. Exapmle, doing an insane drift, holding it and going a distance with it would give rep. Let me know ur opinion or point out something different that could give rep.
At least with the Arena Wars level system You could buy the locked stuff for an elevated Price if you were too lazy to grind the Arena Wars modes,this time Rockstar is literally forcing you to play races or sit afk at the car meet place to level up like WTF is this BS,ain't nobody gonna hang around the car meet place for hours,it's eventually gonna get boring and my experience with the new races is awful,i constantly get toxic lobbies where people just constantly ram each other,this is not encouraging for me to play the new races at all and it gets old after a while.I am sorry,even if i like some of the locked liveries and clothing stuff,i am definitely not grinding these new rep levels completely at all,i stopped at 106 currently and i am not thinking about continuing.This is an outrageous situation!!!
If you want to get a livery for a car without levelling up listen up: Take the car you want to get the livery / wheels on (locked ones) and take into someone else’s auto shop. When inside, hover over the livery / wheel and wait for the owner of the auto shop to leave. (Enter a auto shop in the lobby where the owner is in it, can do with friends) Most of the times it should work, when it does, go to LS customs and add a upgrade and it the livery / wheel should be saved. Hoped it helped
I don't think the rep points are paying that low as GhillieMaster says it in the video but i agree with the races above 6 players bonus thing. Everything else is fine in my opinion cuz people who spend more time with the things in the update deserve more points than people who don't. Like for example if there is a casual player who doesn't spend that much time with the update things then they shouldn't get as much points as a player who does the update things everyday for an hour or more (races or just being on the track drifting or doing time trials). The getting points for just driving in freemode is just stupid unless its like a really small amounts of points. I have noticed that he called getting the points "grind" in the video and i think that is the source of the problem: It's not supposed to be looked at as a grind. You get the points by doing the things that you a) enjoy and that means you spend time with it and after spending your time which you enjoyed you get more thing to enjoy or b) don't enjoy and so that means you don't have to do them unless you do it for a livery os something and then the grind begins cuz the working part of the grind is not always fun and that's just something that needs to be accepted. Edit: the last change he mentioned is actually really great and should be implemented.
I ran into a clan that had one guy lock down a chokepoint at a warehouse. He would gatekeep this entrance so his buddy could easily maintain the lead. Rockstar, ghost anyone who drives in reverse or takes too long to reach a new checkpoint!
🚬....They should allow us to have the option to switch Rep. for whatever you do. You can go to setting and change Rep to either Regular Rep, Arena War Rep, or the LS Tuner Rep. Whatever you do in the game can build off it even when you spin the podium wheel and get rep there frfr💯🔥🔥🧯
Thank you, Ghillie. Whilst everyone has made a "The Rep system is bad" video, you're one of the only people I've seen give a balanced "... and here's how to fix the Rep system" explanation. I hope this video does come to the attention of Rockstar, and they sort it out! (and also, that they ghost stationary / backwards drivers like in Formula races)
I don’t want to play the new races or races in general anymore because there are always people driving backwards or intentionally ramming you of the track which is especially annoying in the stunt races.
I actually *really* like most of your reputation suggestions. Far as I'm concerned EVERYTHING we do (with a few exceptions) should increase our reputation, if even just by a little bit. "Hey aren't you the same guy/girl that robbed the Diamond Casino/Pacific Standard/El Rubio?" Reputation is about US, not just cars and driving.
Something they missed is the delivery/service cars not giving you rep/throwing in cars with trade prices and servicing them unlocks the trade prices as an alternate means of getting the trade price instead of hoping the game gives you it at a random fifth level in the meet rep system.
They think car lovers are gonna play more than 1 day if they see how Rockstar allow people ramming other people or driving backwards? Why is it so difficult and slow to start a new race? Why short sprint races doesn't it spawn randomly in the map instead of going to a dark and ugly car meet? You are so right…
Should’ve connect the Auto Shop to the rep system. Additionally, can you imagine the car you delivered to the buyer turns up at the meet? You can make a series of good looking or the most gaudy car meet of the century.
The clothes and trade prices should be unlocked through some kind of free roam missions, like stealing a clothing truck or stealing and selling the cars at the dock X amount of times, The Rep should be used to unlock car meet perks like the hosting ability that unlocks at rep 20, these could be something like being able to create a test track race or some kind of money incentive like a Race sponsor that increases ur winnings, id also love if you could hire NPC racers that could earn you AFK money like 10k a race with a max of 250k per NPC racer nd they do like 1 race each an in game day, lets say every 50 rep you could hire an extra racer, The car scene isnt always about racing lol theres mechanic missions like stealing dope parts, betting on other races. Just some ideas i had, any thoughts
Rockstar is a shadow of it’s former self. As someone who has been around since the very first GTA games, and who has played them all, I realise they have become too greedy and all they care about anymore is making money off of shark cards. For this reason I refuse to ever by a shark card. I’ve been grinding Cayo, and I’ve got many businesses, but the fact is, I play games to escape the monotony of real life! So to get home from real life work and turn on GTAV, only to have to monotonously grind and feel like I’m back at work anyways is bullshit, and then to have soulless c#*ts that drive backwards in races, or troll the shit out of you when you’re trying to do heist set ups just makes the game a straight up chore! So congratulations ROCKSTAR you have taken one of the greatest and most successful franchises of all time and turned it into absolute shit. There are soo many other games that have more replay value and a shit ton of enjoyment! Maybe they should change their name from “ROCKSTAR” to like “KIDDYPOP” or something, cause they’re more like Justin Bieber than Guns ‘n’ Roses now!
I afk'ed and did the daily stuff to get to rank 53 and I went to afk when I was packing for my 4 day camping trip. I forgot to go back and turn my PC off and came back after 4 full days of afk and was rank 97. It's way slower than I imagined.
To fix it they need: 1. rep bonus on win/loss streaks in races 2. rep for EVERY TIME you use the test track (not just 2x a day like wtf who decided that) 3. they should give you rep for every car mod you buy in the LSCM mod shop (1/5 of a level would be fine per car mod purchased) 4. probably the most unlikely but half a level every time you beat your time trial time on the test track (would keep people at LSCM who actually play) 5. last but not least we literally have the auto shop heists, the car delivery missions and exotic exports, which are all new content and part of this very dlc that earn you 0 rep I know they will never be this generous but i think we deserve 1/5 a level per exotic export/customer car delivery, and an entire level for a contract (if they would just do this it would be fixed lol)
I'm a casual player and I usually don't spend on a car collection, so I really loved the idea of winning prize cars by doing tasks. Downer: Current task is to win 5 sprint races, I've been lobbyhopping for hours and couldn't find anyone. -.- Maybe I'm overly critical, but it also feels a bit tedious to derp around aimlessly hoping for one of those 10 Export Cars to spawn...
As someone who is at reputation level 119. I think I personally would love that multiplier to rep for every first place win, also just simply adding more races would be huge too. My only defense for the current reputation system is that it's definitely satisfying to be able to show off the high level liveries that only a fraction of the player base is ever going to even bother getting.
From a rational standpoint, it makes sense doing the contracts on the side have no relation to rep in the car meet since building rep would only come through the races and stuff
I said in many upcoming GTA tuners DLC comments sections that rockstar needs to stop the community meetings spaces because no one is ever there. Nightclubs, casino, music locker, Cayo island are all empty
What they should have done. Custom car sounds, more tyre smoke when drifting, trading cars. They should also add more race cars like older f1 type cars and upgrade sounds so that they’re super loud and you can hear the scream of a super car coming down the street and remove the oppressor
I think one problem that is hard to tackle but I think is valid is that there are too many activities in GTA and I personally can't be bothered to play some of the new stuff. Honestly I think updates that tidy up the game, balance stuff, or adds actual game changing features rather than just some new properties to visit or new races and such. I would love an update that tidies up the game and balances it with 0 new content over what we just got. A game changing update would be to rework how lobbies work, such as a lobby type that lets you play like normal but other players are not killable, and a lobby type where killing others is actually rewarding so peace and war can be had separately. A lobby where you can play the game normally but you know 100% for sure that you wont be blown up when hanging out with 7 other people would change the game so much more than a new property ever could. Another needed feature would be to remove the k/d system. I have a k/d of ~10.8 and it actually ruins some game play cause I don't really care but its still in the back of my head when I die. I don't want to play death match cause of this stupid number even tho I have made a few death match levels of my own with the editor. I'd love to talk about other changes that could make the game in it's entirety better, but basically currently every update adds content that piles up with the rest and is not different enough. We need changes to more basic aspects of the game that actually change the feel of the game. Also despite a high k/d ratio I hate that it exists cause I am a competitive person and it stops me from having more fun in the game as every player interaction is a risk, and yes I could ignore it but it's not as easy as that. I should not need to ignore a game mechanic to have fun especially if it genuinely bothers me, besides other players will also keep being aggressive towards me as long as this number exists. At the very least I have 2000 hours in GTA, and it's one of my favorite games. But it's stale now and always will be if they keep making these uneventful updates. I did however buy a new copy on an alt account and played 77 hours from scratch and it was the most fun I had in GTA for a while cause I got to grind the lower levels again. Maybe trying to play GTA fresh as an og could be a good video for Ghillie to make? There is something about starting off GTA Online fresh that Rockstar did well that made it so much more enjoyable for me to play rather then to keep grinding on my 2000 hours account with I assure you all properties owned and 99% of the good vehicles in the game owned as well (minus anything from last two updates maybe).
You're right about no one being at car meet. Jumped from lobby to lobby yesterday, absolutely nothing going on. Nearly full lobbies as well. Without a triple rep event week this dlc is dead in the water.
One thing I didn’t mention because I figured it out after I made the commentary. Head to Head and Scramble’s don’t give you rep anymore even if you do them legitimately. They changed it to fix the exploit. So now it’s even harder to rep up... go figure.
They should lessen the maximum level needed to be reached. It should be atleast level 250 so that the grind would not be that boring.
@@belwilliamurbano724 yeah 250 would be perfect
Ghillie you’re misunderstanding Rockstar’s goal: it’s to get people to pay for shark cards. Think about it why would a 90’s Toyota be 30mph faster than a fucking F1? To make more money.
@Sean Price that doesn’t make the grind any less tedious
@@normalpersonlivingtheirlife Uh, you can't buy ranks. You get a trade price unlock every 5 levels, so theoretically once you hit level 85, you'll have every vehicle trade price from the update. There's still like 50+ pieces of clothing you need to rank up to unlock, and it's not to something sensible like 200 or 250, it's fucking ONE THOUSAND. It's not like Arena War where you can still buy stuff but it's 2x the price or w/e, no, you just can't buy it at all. Also, an extra 300k on average isn't gonna influence shark card sales much. Not every single person wants to buy every single car, plus you can win some just by playing the game, no RNG necessary.
Earning rep while doing Contracts and Exotic Exports was definitely missed opportunity.
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yes, exactly my thoughts, giving rep points for the new contract heist will gives incentives for players to keep replaying them.
What rep level do you gotta be to get comet s2's trade price? Please.
I expected the contract missions to give you at least a one time rep bonus too
@@tangerinedream8987 maybe level 70.
its almost like the people who create this game don't even play it
Of course they don’t. That’s what game testers are for.
The testers probably just leveled up the first 10 levels and were like: “This’ll work”, without realizing how tedious the grind would become long term
Updates are fair, but only if they improve on issues voiced by gamers, like doing business in public lobbies, balanced missions i.e. endless NPC's with inhuman accuracy you must defeat.
@@MegaBadgeman Rapid Fire Animation or Glitch kills you in less than a second! That's the worse thing Rockstar has done! Some people say it's fun and normal, but when an NPC with an assault rifle does damage like a guy with minigun we have a huge problem.
LOL even worse. They don't even TEST it.... when you see at the insane amounts of bugs this new DLC put into the game. It's not even funny anymore...
Not even Cayo Perico was THIS bugridden at release...
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Trying to put the car at the yellow dot I see! Rockstar:Nope!!!!!!
I can’t fucking wrap my head around the fact that you need 9000 race wins to get rank 1000 that’s absolutely ridiculous
Even just getting to rank 150+ to unlock some of the liveries is so fucking tedious. Holy shit just lemme put on the goddamn livery that I want
Its pointless to get to level 1000, level 250 is enough to get almost everything out of this update
My account is at over 3k races played with 1300 wins, like WTAF R* no one has that amount of time to grind, I’ve been playing since 2016 and this is just absurd
gtamen said its 900k!! not pathetic 9000
@@Jeptheplay lol
Let me be clear, this update is really cool for the content that they release however, the biggest problem with it is that they reused this same stupid rep system that everyone hated from Arena Wars back in 2018. Nobody is going to keep replaying these same races just to grind all that rep, they will probably be AFKing to get more REP until Rockstar finally patches it out or if they actually care make changes to the rep system to where it doesn't become such a major pain to grind all of it. Also the Auto shop is a scam. All you get is just the same custom auto shop that you've seen already. You already have one in your CEO office and also if you want to play the new Contract Missions you have no other choice but to buy the Auto Shop just play them. Again its the same issue with Arena Wars where you had to buy the Arena just to play the modes. How can Rockstar repeat the same mistake?
And on top of it we get two of the most annoying characters since the black death and cholera
You actually get crew and classic colors for free
Discounted prices
And more Garage space
Even if the auto shop didn’t have a single mission it’s worth it for me JUST for the unlocked paint jobs and the 10 car garage
A maxed auto shop is only worth doing cayo percio 3 times
I could do that in less 3 hours
I go into every dlc expecting to waste money so I’m always happy whenever it actually does something useful
Like in this case a new garage or even better unlocking all paint jobs
Okay how is the auto shop the same as the ceo office mod shop
@@myfatassdick man if it wasn’t for Cayo Perico I would have been screwed in this update. I looked up how to speed run it fully stealth and it’s a easy quick 1.5mil every hour and I’m only getting faster at completing it. Then I run contract missions during the cool down, In a week I doubled the money I started with. So R* did that one thing that saved the game for me cause all I do with my friend now is give them most of the cut so they can earn some money. Then we can play however we want without caring about the money.
It had a lotta potential but I dunno why rockstar didn't learn from arena wars at all. I just want the new liveries, man.
There's strong evidence that half the GTA:O dev-team doesn't even communicate with the other half.
@@maxx6526 i dont blame you. im trying to make the celica wrc rally car. god help me
@@maxx6526 as soon as all the cars has been released and i'm done lvl'ing up my rep to unlock the liveries i'm never stepping foot in the car meet again. i'm quite litterally going insane grinding this shit
@@maxx6526 so i've been farming rp using a race called "#DUB# fast race for farming rep. And got it down to where a race takes about 1-2 min. Before the next race starts. I am now lvl 89 so i'm slowly getting there
Rockstar should implement 2 part updates. We get the first initial update with everything in it, but then the next week we get another update where the make reasonable changes based on feedback.
Rockstar listening to feedback 😂
@@cainjake7940 in an other universe lmao
we all know they would never do that
@@cainjake7940 this is the biggest joke of the company's lifetime
😂😂😂 right. I just really don't understand why they're not more responsive with the community. Worked out so well with Epic Games and Fortnite. This shit just feels toxic 😂.
There’s definitely more negatives than positives with this system. But at least the reputation to rep up caps out after 200.
Two fucking hundred? It should be 100 imo
How about 50? I have been stuck in sub 90s for a long while now
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@@jsfyxzuf117 90? Im at 60 and the rep is barely even moving already
It should, at most, cap it out at 300 rep which is rank 43 from the formula that GTASeriesVideos provided. That's roughly a rank a day when doing all the daily bonuses that's doable for a solo player.
I had to watch this video a 2nd time because I was too focused on that intense backwards driving gameplay and didn't pay attention to the commentary
I replicate a lot of irl cars in gta, I would literally pay a million to have some of the liveries but nonono I have to do thousands of races to even be able to buy them
A bit like research for the bunker? You pay either by fast tracking or decreased product by assigning staff to it, but you still have to purchase it afterwards.
Fun fact, you can get them all by modifying the cars in the new autoshops
@Indigomind I said you can get them, not unlock them
Rockstar is the kind of company where Talanted meets stupid.
😂 you being the stupid one because it’s talEnted not talAnted lmao
@@Dginny865 You're ;)
@@Dginny865 you can't even spell yourself lmao
@@Dginny865 You're, talented, using lmao as an example of proper grammar, no period at the end of your sentence; I guess even fools antagonize fools however.
If Rockstar Games can be talented, literally any moron can be talented.
Bro I already gave up the grind of rep. I’m not even rank 20 and gave up already. They should at least make it able for you to just buy the unlocks like arena workshop.
Yea
Who Am I ? Yup this is pretty much my exact routine I’m level 117 now but I did like 4 days straight of AFK over night and most of the day
Does calling the car into the club give rep? I thought it did too but never seen it happen
Actually maybe it happens when I spawn in because that’s my spawn point
Who Am I ? By the end of the first day the dlc was out I was level 16 and a half
@Who Am I ? And are you gonna do every day to level 1000? :D
While I find it cool that you have unlockable items that reflect how good or dedicated of a driver you are, they NEED to allow you to buy the liveries at least or expand the rep system by a longshot. Allow the auto shop to increase your rep, allow ANY street or stunt races to increase rep, let alone increase the amount of rep you get in general.
I’m never grinding to rep 1000 lol the races will just die like how arena wars did.
@II-Report-Me-II probably watching some of professionals vids back in the day of him ranting about the arena wars DLC
Would be good to get REP for any kind of racing
@II-Report-Me-II What a stupid question.
@@GuardianStriker Pretty sure he was sarcastic
@@FromsoftgoatKaj So was he, he continued the joke and you ruined it 😔
I think I understand why others were telling me this DLC would die very quickly. When I think about it, Cayó perico and Diamond Casino DLC did not die this quickly.
Cayo perico was a way to earn money, car meet is a thing which you check once and have no purpose to visit again cause you seen everything it has to offer
Doomsday died pretty fast as well.
Cayo perico will never die because it could be done solo
The way it could stay alive was if they actually made the rep system more of something which you can earn. At this moment the rep system is a joke. Ultimately your best method is to go afk. When your game is literally saying being afk is better than actually playing the game then there's no wonder it's dead. Like at least have something to grind. If contract missions actually gave reps people would be playing it a lot more. Right now I don't see any reason to play it except to try it out for the first time
Didn’t die quickly for me I forgot what the sky looks like because I barely leave the car meet
I’m level 117
Man that race was hard to watch. 9/10 times I get in a race and I'm winning, I have to constantly dodge idiots who think it's a great idea to go backwards on the track. On top of that, rockstar thinks it's alright to allow them to do so, and not ghost them or just outright turn them to spectators.
100% Just transfer the ghosting feature from the F1 races.
For this reason I usually make races no contact but inevitably I’m no longer the host in the second race and the troll is.
Imagine thinking the green alien suits is still funny. Anyway the rep system needs to change and the overhaul recommendations you put out I agree with.
Rework suggestions. Choose your reward, and get a certain amount of levels to earn it, amount of levels being based on the greatness of chosen reward
Anyone who's in a stock pink Calico is a rammer, no exceptions
@@TACADD that's true. Race blockers dont have racing skill, and just do something that takes barely any skill
Im level 80 on reputation by only doing races and i got say... my sanity is running out every fucking race i do it just for An FUCKING HOODIE
It's like spinning the wheel of REP and T-Shirt at the Casino, every day.... I swear they nerfed it too because i hardly get anything else than REP or a shit shirt.....Some chips or some cash only once in a blue moon. And the Mystery Car Van is even more impossible to win. I don't care for the podium cars either since they are all shit.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Haha last night I got a white Bennys tee that I already own.. Last time I got the mystery prize guess what I got? 2500rp......
Well i am on lvl 95 on reputation, and my main goal is a livery for Calico GTF which is on 184 lvl, wish me luck, and health in doing races over and over
The entire video their were green aliens grieving you
There, not their cmon genius
@@Dginny865 There, not their, come on genius*
@@buklau837 They’re, not there, cum on, jenius*
@@buklau837
I think Ginny was being ironic on purpose
Sweaty Kids*
02:42 that is why I always host the races by myself and make no-contact 😉
But those races are illegal and need to be stopped, how am I going to stop them if it's non contact? You are ruining the game for everyone
It's so funny when people cry about non contact being on, like you're just mad you can't crash people?
@@TeslaHaxz Facts, people need to learn to fucking drive
@@TeslaHaxz I host races and put them on max laps and drive backwards and when it's close to the end I votekick the 1st place to make him lose a lot of time and not receive anything for being 1st place + he gets 2 bad sport points for being kicked
@@mihaiduh5482 “what a scumbag” -Broughy
On the first day of the update, I went straight to the car meet after checking out the new cars, there were about 3-6 people in there, roughly 4 on the test track and 2 in the car meet itself, it was quite fun but then on the second day of the update I could barely find anyone to do head to head's with.
I experienced the same lmao
Within the first 3 days of the DLC I managed to find people at the car meet constantly, after that it died out really quick. I was once in a lobby with 10 people there at the same time.
Tbh car meet and freeroam should be separate so you can go in the car meet be put into a car meet lobby rather than hope someone from freeroam is in there.
Speaking facts Ghillie. Hope some of ur ideas can get implemented into this new update soon. Great vid.
It's kinda sad that he's giving rockstar genuinely good free advice for improving their game but they will never listen
I knew the second that Ghillie sighed, it was gonna get serious. 🤌🤌
The classic sigh lol
I'd like to think Rockstar cares, lol. They could easily rework the rep system, but nope, gotta grind till lvl 550 to get that tricolor lampadati hoodie.
And 600 or 650 for a black jacket
I had a feeling that when I saw that Rep system when this update came out I am just like "Oh no....this is going to be Arena Wars 2.0" and my fear came true. Rockstar really messed this up. All of the clothing, custom parts, and to get your car meeting show is locked behind the stupid Rep system. What were they thinking? Did they not remember how back the Arena Wars update was back in 2018?
At least Arena War 1.0 gave an option to purchase what you wanted at a higher price in case you wanted to skip the grind. Tuners is just doggy doo doo
A worse arena wars progression system.
You should get rep for delivering customer cars.
You know what also should give Rep?
Impromptu races. They have been in game since the beginning and this was the perfect opportunity to flesh out an existing feature.
so should the contract missions
even though literally only one of them is somewhat related to LSCM (ECU Job), all of them should give LSCM RP
I mean, with impromptu races you could kinda cheat by racing with your friend and telling him to purposely make you win.
@@X_irtz you can do that in street races
@@X_irtz You can also do that with Testtrack races, Pursuits and Street races tbh. Just create a Playlist with those new race modes and you can play it with 1 friend instead of 4 and exchange wins etc.
But you're not wrong it can be abused, which is why I said they could flash it out :)
I forgot they were even a thing. I've never, ever done one. Never.
There are multiple voice lines on the contracts that people from the car meet see the dashcam footage from the jobs, meaning rep should go up
WHAT THE FUCK SERIOUSLY? Who's the team lead that 86'd half of the rep earning opportunities but killed being able to buy shit at double or triple price?? Absolutely fucking ridiculous.
Interested you brought up the outlaw pass. Speaking of RDO the grind for CaPiTAlE might be the most tedious and slowest grind I have seen in a while. So no rockstar is just shit in both games.
Yeah but what the actual fck are you grinding that for? To play a mission to unlock a hat? At least these races are fun. Might as well buy the capitale at the fence to get the missions over with. Daily grind gold gotta go somewhere once you've got the pass that's out, all the roles and clothes you wanted.
There's rly no need of even grinding for capitalé, just the first Quick Draw Club gives out a total of 65 capitalé & you only need 75 to play all 3 Opportunity missions to unlock their respective hats at Madam Nazar. All of the Crimes & Opportunities missions are practically one-&-done deals for the experience, they're not worth the grind for profitability.
And you can just earn those remaining 10 capitalés for simply trying out the 4 single-mission Crimes.
I find the levels for those 10 Track Wheels and Liveries for the Tuners fair since they're up there with the trade prices for the Tuners and the new race modes, and the ability to hold your own private Car Meet, except the clothing which you do earn rep while wearing any, but not that much though, I can say the same for the new Street Races and Pursuit Races.
The max reputation rank should be 100, there's no need for it to go to 1000. By the time you hit rank 85 you'll get the discounts for every vehicle in the update, which is the main reason you'd want to rank up, not clothes
Rockstar gotta make grind impossible because shark cards right?
@@DemonLordGamingAC0 except you can't even purchase the clothing until you unlock them, you have to reach that rank. And getting the discounts for all 17 cars in the update doesn't even get you a tenth of the way to max. And the cars aren't that expensive, I don't think one goes over 2 mil, and the discounts don't save a ton of money on some cars. I think it was just very badly done
Jared Baker if level 100 was the max I would’ve already been max level on Monday
I hate the grind too but 100 would be way too little
I’m 117 now
jesus christ i would’ve quit that race i raged just from spectating that
I was in an a hot ring race yesterday and had something like this happen , I just jumped sessions. Fuck that , not even worth the rp or $500
Not to brag or anything, but I predicted that the entire car meet thingy would be a ghost town within a week.
Last 3 or 4 times iv past it is nobody there
I think everybody predicted that but nobody wanted it to be true
Already predicted that since forever. 😂 lol
It'll be really embarrassing if people keep organising car meets like they always did, ignoring LSCM
As soon as I get all the discounts I’m not even gonna bother doing street races anymore
It gets even better when you haven't been getting any daily LS Car Meet rep for a week and your Export list has been stuck for that entire time lol.
I laughed about that alien follows you and grief you lmao
I felt more anger than laughter from that part. The fact, that if you are a popular youtuber and want to grind the levels and you have literal imbeciles griefing you in races is just absurd.
It's infuriating to watch... Sadistic degenerates are the bane of any game...
I’m only rank 82 and I’ve afk’d almost every single day lol it’s so slow I’m only going for rank 250.
i just want that dk livery but i’m barely level 64 the grind is so mf slow
I'm at 102 Rep... Afking, pursuit races and all the tuner activities/bonuses done daily. 162 is the goal I've set as the further unlocks are of zero interest. Lame update overall, tons of glitches although it gave me something to do; I'm retired at this point in Los Santos at LVL 732 w/147 mil banked.
@@CityOfRoses79 not enough
CityOfRoses79 wow are you me?
I’m level 722 with 145 mil banked rep level 117 and I’ve been doing a lot of afk for that rep level
I too was optimistic, and of course I was let down.
Its a bussiness thing. Having players online for an extended time being AFK creates an impression on their statistics of an highly popular dlc.this impress their stockholders. Its rockstar way of glitching their q3 report.
Yea pretty much
I guess that doesn't count as fraud per say, and the stockholders'd be none the wiser. But I'd doubt the facade'd be able to outpace player burnout.
That was my exact thought too once I started going afk
I was like “I bet this looks really good for their player retention and activity”
Like how on PC steam says “69,000 users online”
The LS car meet is dead but let’s not forget about the music locker..
Not from the car community
Music locker is actually dead
It isn't....don't believe something because some random dork on youtube said so.
I feel it couldve been slightly more successful if the music was more popular, but I hadn't heard of any of the artists announced before this. Literally the only artist I knew from the update was Dr Dre., and he didn't even have a song in the update, he was just making a cameo.
What is Music Locker? Lool
@@zunarcorporation1117 underground nightclub at the diamond casino
I finally found someone to do a Sprint race with yesterday, only to sit there waiting and waiting, with nothing happening. There was no countdown, but finally the route popped up on the mini-map, allowing me to go. But where the hell was the guy I was racing? His blip showed nearly at the checkpoint already. He obviously didn’t incur the same time penalty that I did. I do however, sometimes encounter people on the Test Track, parked, doing endless donuts or just driving aimlessly around. When I ask to have a race, there is rarely ever a response. Then I have to return my vehicle to storage or I will be locked in the Test Track forever, as Rockstar never thought you’d ever be ignored when you asked someone to race.
I like how :
GTA Online has better updates but bad rep systems
and RDR Online has bad updates (not every update but some) but good rep systems
Idk I hate the rep system in red dead online because if you can’t play for some reason after buying the pass then fucking RIP all your gold
That’s one of the reasons I stopped playing
Now after missing everything and all those scumy limited time deals I’ll never go back to red dead online
And I love single player I specifically bought a next gen console for rdr 2 after only having an Xbox 360 till late 2018 but the grind was so bad AND THERE WAS NO ANIMALS so I had to quit online after my sale wagon lost all of its pelts when I disconnected and I couldn’t get more *BECAUSE ANIMALS WERE EXTINCT*
one thing that's crazy and I don't see anyone talking about is how the Reputation system does NOT have a paid shortcut per se. *maybe* if one considers the mod shop in the car meet and clothing purchase bonuses, but those are limited, so even Shark Cards can't save it
Why in the world did they reuse the same rep system from Arena Wars? They could've improved it, but now they made it worse. I really hate the grinding. Its no wonder people have be AFK'ing all the time in car meets.
all this is because EVERY game out there with a rank up system or progression set up feels its necessary to make the grind so damn mind numbing, and dont realize, PLAYERS dont do that anymore. They will quit the game, or find other things to do within the game that are less grindy. WoW started it off with Dailies, and everyone has yet to realize that bandwagon burned down a LONG time ago...There is actually a company that has GRINDING in the title. This really needs to stop. Great suggestions, Ghil, hope they listen to you
It really does tick me off that people already don’t care about the car meet i have been trying for a while to get sprint races for the prize ride and over today and yesterday I’ve gotten 3 races done i have to rely on randoms because my friends like most people don’t even play the game anymore fucking ridiculous
What system you play on? Maybe we can help each other out
@@KingShibe xbox
@@chaseycat ah never mind. I only play on PSN
I am so upset that R* didn't get a grip after the arena war system. Not even gonna mention the RWD Audi rs4. Like....we need to start a movement of some kind in order for rockstar to understand that if they listen to what we have to say, it will make their game better for everyone.
Also can we talk about how TRASH the level 1000 race suit is??? It’s literally pure blue with orange flames and it looks like a 5 year old designed them
They should have made a dinka race suit similar to red/black designs on the hats
Lvl 75 race suit looks better than lvl 1000 XD
@@lI_Speedor_Il bro that’s the one I wear and it’s so much nicer 🤣😂 like who tf is gonna waste time to rank 1000 for a blue bit of trash when the lvl 75 suit is the best 😂
The rank 75 one is far superior. & Idk if it's just that suit (haven't worn the others) but you can wear a few of the unlocked tops in special tops over it. The open wheel top looks pretty sweet over it, my character looks like a bootleg Lewis Hamilton.
Bruh and I thought 52 gold bars for a suit was bad enough.
I've made way more levels going afk overnight than I've earned by running races all day. Also has the added benefit of letting all your businesses convert supplies into cash, so when you come back the next morning, you have 10 new rep levels. And $3 million in products to sell every day, just from afk.
You're actually wasting real money just to get some fucking liveries? LMAO.
It’s funny how that dude is just chasing him the whole time while he’s talking 😂
If you think that's funny then I hope I never race with you.
It's not funny it's annoying
Out of curiosity, I decided to check how many races I've done in Forza Horizon 4 (a dedicated racing game)...since I've been playing that actively for over a year alongside GTA. The races are about as long as what you'd get in a typical public race in GTA. 1,954 races, and I've basically done everything there is to do, acquired basically every car (almost 750 of them), aside from a DLC pack I don't want and some impossible-to-get preorder cars.
And in GTA, it takes 4.5X the amount of races to unlock everything in this DLC, at 9,000+. That is insane.
I am lvl 56 and I did like 10 lvls by my self and the rest was by being afk
Yup I haveb no time to put that much effort in to grind so I do afk to get the cosmetics and save money
My console hasn't been turned off legitimately for like 3 days I just grind Pursuits and Streets Races till 4AM then go AFK while in the LSCM, wake up, shower, eat then rinse and repeat... this is my life now..😔
@@genghiscorneliuskhanghis3138 at least Tür your console of for like an hour every time you wake up
I was rep 47 and I logged in today and now I’m rep 6 wtf
Riwi-Tia I was doing that but realized you don’t get the daily bonuses reset if you leave it on for more than 24 hours so restart gta and get those daily bonuses in the morning like mod you car do the time trial and test one of the 3 cars
**The BEST strategy so far I have found is to find a friend or another player that wants to rank up is to grind ONE LAP(cause you get same rep points no matter how many laps) races with...1st place gets 165 points and 2nd gets 157...if I can’t find anyone I just suck it up and do random races but it sucks that it’s typically set at 3 laps and that’s a waste of time..only plus side to that is I always get more points when I get 1/2/3 place.
I love Ghillie’s rants lol
It kinda pisses me off how so many people asked for car meets and now everytime I go , there's nobody there. Before the update there were alot of car meets in LSC and now there are none 🤦♂️
I’ve just reached Reputation 100 from going afk each night. Honestly the fact we can’t buy any of the locked items is SO bad…..like why add content that we literally CANT use??…..
because that makes sense and Rockstar doesn't like things to make sense this is why I quit the game years ago lol
I'm lucky i did the exploit to level 234 but now its absolute pain to level up, going afk at night only gets me 1 level at this point... hope they fix this
I hoped so many lobbies searching for people. 50 % of people gave up after 5 min. 30 % were to slow and 20% had difficulty finding the spot. Some didn't even have 50k
@@wifiunove1650 damn, i've been in a few lobbies today and literally have been the only one in them. it really is a shame
3:18 Street race series with low levels is exactly like this.
Just a reminder for any one who knows that Rockstar made midnight club, which was an amazing racing game when I was young. But for them not to have a * Wrong way * indicator that make you go the other way after 5 secs is just messed up and lazy.
I tried to warn all of you that this was literally Arena Wars 2.0 but y'all didn't listen.
Well it was exciting for a week. But now everyone noticed
It’s also super aggravating when you start or join a race that has a full lobby, but almost everyone leaves (cause they can’t finish 1st) so the RP you gain is such a small amount it’s not worth doing...
4:05 This is why we can't have nice things... Simply driving a tuner car should increase your rep
Yeah I’ve been wining pretty much every race I get into but it gives such a discouraging low amount of RP.
The fact that this is the best way to level up and I’m around level 40 and it’s just going to keep getting worse per level promotion. This is really unfortunate
Im lvl 57 and i takes 3 full lobby races to level up so yeah its all downhill from here
@@ito_obli 81 & it takes maybe 7 or 8 full lobby wins.. Yayyyy...
Imo drifting in freemode and impromptu races should give REP level, not like donuts and stuff but you know stuff that us car guys enjoy, like crusing around los santos highway, drive around the city, compete with friends in impromptu races Nd drifting in the city, stuff like that is what id give alot of rep for. Exapmle, doing an insane drift, holding it and going a distance with it would give rep. Let me know ur opinion or point out something different that could give rep.
Yeah, I 100% agree, if you pull off, of chain drifts together, you should get rep. Like how skill chains work in Forza.
At least with the Arena Wars level system You could buy the locked stuff for an elevated Price if you were too lazy to grind the Arena Wars modes,this time Rockstar is literally forcing you to play races or sit afk at the car meet place to level up like WTF is this BS,ain't nobody gonna hang around the car meet place for hours,it's eventually gonna get boring and my experience with the new races is awful,i constantly get toxic lobbies where people just constantly ram each other,this is not encouraging for me to play the new races at all and it gets old after a while.I am sorry,even if i like some of the locked liveries and clothing stuff,i am definitely not grinding these new rep levels completely at all,i stopped at 106 currently and i am not thinking about continuing.This is an outrageous situation!!!
This update was a short lived marketing trick to capitalize on the new f9 movie hype and it really shows in the details
If you want to get a livery for a car without levelling up listen up:
Take the car you want to get the livery / wheels on (locked ones) and take into someone else’s auto shop. When inside, hover over the livery / wheel and wait for the owner of the auto shop to leave. (Enter a auto shop in the lobby where the owner is in it, can do with friends) Most of the times it should work, when it does, go to LS customs and add a upgrade and it the livery / wheel should be saved. Hoped it helped
thank god liveries can be gotten with glitches, clothing with mods and most wheels look bad
I don't think the rep points are paying that low as GhillieMaster says it in the video but i agree with the races above 6 players bonus thing. Everything else is fine in my opinion cuz people who spend more time with the things in the update deserve more points than people who don't. Like for example if there is a casual player who doesn't spend that much time with the update things then they shouldn't get as much points as a player who does the update things everyday for an hour or more (races or just being on the track drifting or doing time trials). The getting points for just driving in freemode is just stupid unless its like a really small amounts of points. I have noticed that he called getting the points "grind" in the video and i think that is the source of the problem: It's not supposed to be looked at as a grind. You get the points by doing the things that you a) enjoy and that means you spend time with it and after spending your time which you enjoyed you get more thing to enjoy or b) don't enjoy and so that means you don't have to do them unless you do it for a livery os something and then the grind begins cuz the working part of the grind is not always fun and that's just something that needs to be accepted.
Edit: the last change he mentioned is actually really great and should be implemented.
its sad that the main focus of the update(Ls car meet)is already dead
It isn't....don't believe something because some random dork on youtube said so.
@@ThresholdGaming Ok, then why should we believe you then?
@@brian.phillips1985 I have not made a claim to believe in...I merely refuted one. No burden of proof here.
@@ThresholdGaming Saying that someone is wrong is a claim.
@@brian.phillips1985 Nope, it is not. Debate 101.
Damn dude that intro sounds like a TH-cam apology video. 😂
😂😂😂
JFC, I think you were the only one in that race who wasn't a griefer.
I ran into a clan that had one guy lock down a chokepoint at a warehouse. He would gatekeep this entrance so his buddy could easily maintain the lead.
Rockstar, ghost anyone who drives in reverse or takes too long to reach a new checkpoint!
I've already TUNED out! LOL
This needs more likes.
Haven’t even tuned in yet, but already tuned out. Lool
🚬....They should allow us to have the option to switch Rep. for whatever you do. You can go to setting and change Rep to either Regular Rep, Arena War Rep, or the LS Tuner Rep. Whatever you do in the game can build off it even when you spin the podium wheel and get rep there frfr💯🔥🔥🧯
Whole update is disappointing to be honest, was hoping for actual tuning and performance not just Benny's part two 😕
I've made this same complaint on their Rockstar suggestions page for the update. I hope they actually read them.
This is literally why I've never touched the Contracts.
Thank you, Ghillie.
Whilst everyone has made a "The Rep system is bad" video, you're one of the only people I've seen give a balanced "... and here's how to fix the Rep system" explanation.
I hope this video does come to the attention of Rockstar, and they sort it out! (and also, that they ghost stationary / backwards drivers like in Formula races)
They should really have the max rep LEVEL 50!!!
300
@@MelvinThe123 I think 300 is pretty good because after 250 you unlocked almost everything
@@max8221 nah 50 being the max to unlock everything
@@jackjuggalo6005 I am 125 after 10 days 😂 300 is perfect
@@max8221 122 it’s long tho afk is just as long
I don’t want to play the new races or races in general anymore because there are always people driving backwards or intentionally ramming you of the track which is especially annoying in the stunt races.
why would you even waste time trying to get level 1000 in this for some clothes
Cuz the drip israel
All you need is scuba suit with some bulletproof helmet and thermal-night vision, no need to buy other clothes
@@Bernardo21_ filthy tryhard
I actually *really* like most of your reputation suggestions. Far as I'm concerned EVERYTHING we do (with a few exceptions) should increase our reputation, if even just by a little bit.
"Hey aren't you the same guy/girl that robbed the Diamond Casino/Pacific Standard/El Rubio?" Reputation is about US, not just cars and driving.
Something they missed is the delivery/service cars not giving you rep/throwing in cars with trade prices and servicing them unlocks the trade prices as an alternate means of getting the trade price instead of hoping the game gives you it at a random fifth level in the meet rep system.
They think car lovers are gonna play more than 1 day if they see how Rockstar allow people ramming other people or driving backwards? Why is it so difficult and slow to start a new race? Why short sprint races doesn't it spawn randomly in the map instead of going to a dark and ugly car meet? You are so right…
Should’ve connect the Auto Shop to the rep system. Additionally, can you imagine the car you delivered to the buyer turns up at the meet? You can make a series of good looking or the most gaudy car meet of the century.
The clothes and trade prices should be unlocked through some kind of free roam missions, like stealing a clothing truck or stealing and selling the cars at the dock X amount of times, The Rep should be used to unlock car meet perks like the hosting ability that unlocks at rep 20, these could be something like being able to create a test track race or some kind of money incentive like a Race sponsor that increases ur winnings, id also love if you could hire NPC racers that could earn you AFK money like 10k a race with a max of 250k per NPC racer nd they do like 1 race each an in game day, lets say every 50 rep you could hire an extra racer, The car scene isnt always about racing lol theres mechanic missions like stealing dope parts, betting on other races.
Just some ideas i had, any thoughts
Rockstar is a shadow of it’s former self. As someone who has been around since the very first GTA games, and who has played them all, I realise they have become too greedy and all they care about anymore is making money off of shark cards. For this reason I refuse to ever by a shark card. I’ve been grinding Cayo, and I’ve got many businesses, but the fact is, I play games to escape the monotony of real life! So to get home from real life work and turn on GTAV, only to have to monotonously grind and feel like I’m back at work anyways is bullshit, and then to have soulless c#*ts that drive backwards in races, or troll the shit out of you when you’re trying to do heist set ups just makes the game a straight up chore!
So congratulations ROCKSTAR you have taken one of the greatest and most successful franchises of all time and turned it into absolute shit. There are soo many other games that have more replay value and a shit ton of enjoyment!
Maybe they should change their name from “ROCKSTAR” to like “KIDDYPOP” or something, cause they’re more like Justin Bieber than Guns ‘n’ Roses now!
I afk'ed and did the daily stuff to get to rank 53 and I went to afk when I was packing for my 4 day camping trip. I forgot to go back and turn my PC off and came back after 4 full days of afk and was rank 97. It's way slower than I imagined.
To fix it they need:
1. rep bonus on win/loss streaks in races
2. rep for EVERY TIME you use the test track (not just 2x a day like wtf who decided that)
3. they should give you rep for every car mod you buy in the LSCM mod shop (1/5 of a level would be fine per car mod purchased)
4. probably the most unlikely but half a level every time you beat your time trial time on the test track (would keep people at LSCM who actually play)
5. last but not least we literally have the auto shop heists, the car delivery missions and exotic exports, which are all new content and part of this very dlc that earn you 0 rep
I know they will never be this generous but i think we deserve 1/5 a level per exotic export/customer car delivery, and an entire level for a contract (if they would just do this it would be fixed lol)
I'm a casual player and I usually don't spend on a car collection, so I really loved the idea of winning prize cars by doing tasks.
Downer: Current task is to win 5 sprint races, I've been lobbyhopping for hours and couldn't find anyone. -.-
Maybe I'm overly critical, but it also feels a bit tedious to derp around aimlessly hoping for one of those 10 Export Cars to spawn...
As someone who is at reputation level 119. I think I personally would love that multiplier to rep for every first place win, also just simply adding more races would be huge too. My only defense for the current reputation system is that it's definitely satisfying to be able to show off the high level liveries that only a fraction of the player base is ever going to even bother getting.
From a rational standpoint, it makes sense doing the contracts on the side have no relation to rep in the car meet since building rep would only come through the races and stuff
I said in many upcoming GTA tuners DLC comments sections that rockstar needs to stop the community meetings spaces because no one is ever there. Nightclubs, casino, music locker, Cayo island are all empty
U wrong about the casino part
@@thickboi4304 no the casino is empty. You only see players spinning the wheel and leaving
The fact that you need 9000 wins to get lvl 1000, bruh I don’t even have 100 wins
What they should have done. Custom car sounds, more tyre smoke when drifting, trading cars. They should also add more race cars like older f1 type cars and upgrade sounds so that they’re super loud and you can hear the scream of a super car coming down the street and remove the oppressor
I think one problem that is hard to tackle but I think is valid is that there are too many activities in GTA and I personally can't be bothered to play some of the new stuff.
Honestly I think updates that tidy up the game, balance stuff, or adds actual game changing features rather than just some new properties to visit or new races and such. I would love an update that tidies up the game and balances it with 0 new content over what we just got.
A game changing update would be to rework how lobbies work, such as a lobby type that lets you play like normal but other players are not killable, and a lobby type where killing others is actually rewarding so peace and war can be had separately. A lobby where you can play the game normally but you know 100% for sure that you wont be blown up when hanging out with 7 other people would change the game so much more than a new property ever could.
Another needed feature would be to remove the k/d system. I have a k/d of ~10.8 and it actually ruins some game play cause I don't really care but its still in the back of my head when I die. I don't want to play death match cause of this stupid number even tho I have made a few death match levels of my own with the editor.
I'd love to talk about other changes that could make the game in it's entirety better, but basically currently every update adds content that piles up with the rest and is not different enough. We need changes to more basic aspects of the game that actually change the feel of the game.
Also despite a high k/d ratio I hate that it exists cause I am a competitive person and it stops me from having more fun in the game as every player interaction is a risk, and yes I could ignore it but it's not as easy as that. I should not need to ignore a game mechanic to have fun especially if it genuinely bothers me, besides other players will also keep being aggressive towards me as long as this number exists.
At the very least I have 2000 hours in GTA, and it's one of my favorite games. But it's stale now and always will be if they keep making these uneventful updates. I did however buy a new copy on an alt account and played 77 hours from scratch and it was the most fun I had in GTA for a while cause I got to grind the lower levels again. Maybe trying to play GTA fresh as an og could be a good video for Ghillie to make? There is something about starting off GTA Online fresh that Rockstar did well that made it so much more enjoyable for me to play rather then to keep grinding on my 2000 hours account with I assure you all properties owned and 99% of the good vehicles in the game owned as well (minus anything from last two updates maybe).
You're right about no one being at car meet. Jumped from lobby to lobby yesterday, absolutely nothing going on. Nearly full lobbies as well. Without a triple rep event week this dlc is dead in the water.
My friend and I tried head to head no rep points. We like racing but of course everyone just smashes everyone to get in front it’s frustrating