I'm aware that Rockstar needs to make money to be a functioning business. I also do not take it for granted that they give us two completely free DLC's a year. I get that they need to use microtransactions to make money. I just think they over incentivize with things like what I talk about in the video, that could've been a feature for every player. They could have done something else that would give GTA+ players value for having the service.
Harm come on, there is a sense of entitlement thinking everything should be free, GTA+ makes sense and I actually always thought for $60 I got the best game ever made and if it was $150 I probably would have still paid it (that’s me personally) . it’s a decision on if it’s worth it to each individual.
You were not wrong about all the “cause you’re a broke boy” comments. It’s really odd that people get angry that others don’t feel the need to pay for something.
@@JackBeLucky @HarmNone I got gta+ cause to me I seen it as a thing for new people or people coming back to the game that don’t have the time to grind which is me and for that one feature who knows maybe it’s a test feature that the gta+ user get to try out and it’ll eventually be out for everyone
GTA+ is finally genuinely providing value though. I’m not defending the business practice itself, though I obviously would never mind getting some sort of value out of a service I pay for. And I’ve paid for it for ages, mainly just for the garage and whatever, a few cool liveries, paints etc. and it was never really worth it. But now, the phone app is definitely a HUGE time saver. The Car Club has exclusive liveries. And the Garage has a mod shop - that’s completely unlocked, regardless of rank, and is discounted (way more than the auto shop). So there’s FINALLY value imo. They’re really pushing for people to want to have GTA+. From a marketing standpoint they’ve done a really good job of late. So can’t even fault them 😂. But yes, all the perks aside, the safe earnings through an app could have totally been a feature for all players - maybe through Sec.Serve. It’s a huge quality upgrade that everyone deserves.
@@vvschrisyt8848 hey man, that’s cool and nothing wrong with that. I was referring to the people that were replying to my comment calling me broke and saying I can’t afford it because I said I would never pay for it. It’s less than $10 dollars US, of course I can afford it. I just don’t need or want it.
I’ll never pay for gta+ It’s weird that so many people feel the need to insult someone because they would choose to not pay for something that they don’t want. Y’all really need to get out and enjoy the real world.
@@gabrielarcand1637 Yeah, let's encourage media leasing instead of ownership by paying out the ass. How many streaming services are you subscribed to?
Paywalling features and content is the worst thing a company can do. They are taking advantage of the players who love their game. Def a huge L from Rockstar.
@@Mike-coxlongBecause they've already bought the game. Why should anybody be made to pay anymore when people have bought the game like 3 times already?
@@k.23_02 they couldn't even provide us with proper servers and anticheats, its kind of bizzare how they can ask for more money without even fixing these issues. Its a beloved game for our generation but i feel like the company are deliberately trying to make the playerbase hate the game.
This is an extremely slimy business tactic. And you're spot on, it sets a dangerous precident if people just take it lying down. I realize the trend is going towards "you will actually own nothing," so this type of behavior does not need to be rewarded with a subscription to any of these services.
Lmao anyone in this comment section taken a business class in their life? You want more value you have to pay for it, the online game is still free and you get so much value for $0, if you want more there should be a service where someone like me can pay more if they want to enhance the overall experience 🤷🏽♂️
@@YANKEESROX100 so you think it's perfectly acceptable to charge someone for features in a game they already paid for? Features already built in to said game? If you want to pay for early access to items, that's fine and that's your business. Quality of life things like this, no way. Maybe you need to take an ethics class.
@@bandwagon240 yes it’s perfectly acceptable. Ethically you can download GTA for free and play the game they developed for free. If you want an enhanced version of the game you can choose to pay for it. Ethically you have the decision to pay for it or not but to think it’s not acceptable is entitlement. You are not entitled to anything free but still GTA online is free. You can earn money and status in the game for free If you’re someone like me who doesn’t have much time to grind and play all the features I prefer paying $8 for an enhanced version of the game. Yes it should be available and it should always be a decision for the player to choose to pay or not
@@YANKEESROX100 Shark Cards were already available for those who are down on time. So why is a quality of life function another pay to play feature? Like a lot of people, I'm a day 1 player who has purchased this game 4 times (5 including Expanded & Enhanced) and have watched Rockstar nickel and dime people to death over the past 7-8 years. GTA Online is not free, it is/was included with other paid subscription services, so I'm not sure where you're getting that it's free from.
Just imagine how bad things are going to be for gta 6. On Elder Scrolls Online you gotta pay 140$ year suscription otherwise you are screwed. My guess you can't play gta 6 online without buying this scam.
Bro I heard about that. Upset me cause I was kinda interested in that game. Not now! But I'm very very very afraid GTA6 will be a subscription to play...or at the very least, if you wanna actually get anywhere making money, the simple QOL content and possibly exclusive vehicles...you're gonna need gta+ or you're losing out 30-40% of the game I bet.
@@ryanscott_ Lol That's honestly the absolute most likely thing they'll be doing with 6. Last few updates now they've added gta+ only content...and now have put the pettiest of QOL content behind a paywall... Definitely feels like they're preparing people for 6 to be subscription based.
@@shadowtitan8545 it’s not that I’m okay with it but it doesn’t make me upset. I pay for GTA+ because I play the game all the time but I just drive a few cars around for a bit then turn the game off. For $6 or $8 I feel like I enjoy the game more, and for $6 or $8 I better get enough value to justify the cost so having features that free players don’t get makes gta+ better I just don’t like the take that gta+ is a scam or it’s ridiculous I think those people need to put more thought into why people pay and rather not pay for it
I have GTA + and it's sad to me that they locking features like that behind a paywall it's ridiculous and it's probably not even rockstar themselves it's probably taketwo forcing this
I despise subscription services. I think they're especially stupid for software and they're ruining the whole media market, while deminishing personal ownership over products you've paid for. Things are expensive enough without companies trying to squeeze every last cent out of you for stupid subscription models.
Just wanted to let people know that the cool bounty hunter vest (body armour with badge) they teased in the trailer ect is also locked to next generation consoles, I'm on pc and can't get it as it's part of the career progression, ridiculous, fk rockstar
@@jhonadrianclark5203 it's not a scam, rock star tells you straight forward what you're going to get for membership. You pay the money and you get exactly what they said. that's not a scam.. You might not see value in it but it's not a scam
as an comunity of gta we should make some protests as we dont play gta at all to rockstar make a game not good for them but good for players, without us they are nothing, they straight pipe fucking us on every corner like rockstar is evolving into EA
IT AINT EVEN A BROKE THING NOW PEOPLE JUST DONT WANT TO GET SCAMMED FOR BUYING THIS GTA + CRAP WE WERE TRUE TO ROCKSTAR THEN AND WE'LL STAY LIKE THAT UNTIL SOME BS HAPPENS WITH GTA 6
Considering GTA online makes Rockstar 100’s of millions of dollars every single year, the “They’re a business they have to make money” excuse goes right out the window. They’re greedy. Period.
Exactly, every lobby is half filled with players under lvl 50, these are new people buying the game and the DLCs over the past 4 years have been poor quality that clearly havent cost much to make
Gta making 100 million a year. Meanwhile a gacha game only adding another jpeg to the game makes half of it in a month. It's the sad state of gaming. Is not about making good games, is about maximizing profit.
💯% agree with you, I've learned a lot about marketing and you can tell that Rockstar is playing with their food at this point. A lot of the stuff in the recent updates have been tests for GTA 6 and the GTA+ subscription is definitely a test to see what feedback it gets from players. And if Rockstar is getting away with it then other gaming companies will try this method out and in the future, gaming will be all about money, not the experience of the game. So yeah you're right and rightfully so to be upset! 👍
A lot of games are doing these subscription-based perks now. I dont care for any game enough to pay $120+ per year after I already paid the initial price. Nope.
RS hiding QOL mechanics behind a paywall/removing content for GTA+ sucks donkey balls, I could *maybe* get behind GTA+ if it was only getting new content early/free, bonuses, etc.
Thanks for pointing this out, this is a prime example for corporate greed. Playing on PC, so I already feel betrayed by being locked out, but this is next level ridiculous. And thank you for making this known and in general for your videos keeping me and us up to date!
The no PC part is the most annoying aspect of GTA+ in my eyes. Because even when there was something I would say "Yes, I'd pay for that" to, I don't have a reason to buy it since I don't play on console
I'm supper happy you did video on this. I have gta5 plus and planned on canceling it. To meseem everything going to a subcreeion base now. This is the worst idea ever for subconscious. In the long run, it will cost a he'll plot more. Where already paying 70 to 100 plus on games. We need to wake up people and put an end to it all.
''They need to make money'' Dude Rockstar is not a small indie company that is on its last legs. It's absolutely disgusting how they put in gta+ in a 10 year old game that has been ported multiple times to other systems.
This reminds me of the BMW heated seats incident. So you would pay for heated seats to be installed, then you would pay to use them, then you would have to keep paying every month, then if you cancelled the subscription, no heated seats.... even though they're in your car... and you used them... and you paid for them. Yeah well anyway they got sued fucking hard 😂 and I hope the same happens to R* if they try something like this. I love the devs but the corporate side is so greedy. 😔 I feel for you devs, your work will never go unnoticed.
FR Broo 😂😂 we non GTA+ members have to wait 1 week and then buy it for a good 3 mil and the members get it instantly for free... Like cmon how obvious you want to make it? Rockstar: yes !
you really can't wait 1 week? they literally released more day 1 content then they've done for dlc updates in the past and you're still complaining and crying. It's not that big of a deal
@@isaacclarke7425 exactly, who cares, its not really free either because they are paying for membership that gives them the car... you could buy a shark card for the same price to buy the car, its the same thing. its not free you are paying for it one way or another.
It's less about the actual time it takes and more about the principles. This is an easy QoL improvement that should have been implemented years ago. Instead, they lock it behind a pay wall and put a CD on tow truck missions while I'm still losing 25k in ammo every login. They don't do anything for their loyal player base unless it can directly make them more money. It's scummy.
It's now $8.55 including tax. I had it because I got the garage it's not worth it. I've bought this game four times through the years. And I think all of those that have bought shark cards have made them enough.
Love your videos and also your commentary, and in particular your odd justifiable rants against R*. Keep it up as your voice is heard. Thank you from me in the UK.
Glad you've done a video on this, a big channel needed to cover it as this is just wrong. GTA+ players get so many benefits now including core mechanics that should be available for everyone, this new app on the phone being a prime example. The discount on Staff in the new business they get really irked me too.....love playing this game, but this divide between newer consoles and PC really annoys me.
They don't bring it on PC because of the cheaters, you know these guys who can't play a game because they suck at everything? So they cheat all the time and worst, they harass good players with their bad addiction and laziness... Cheater are the scum of all games. That's why we can't have nice things... u_u
@@HarmNone not only does subscriptions for games feel extremely insane, it also bothers me that the benefits that GTA+ give just fully are not available to PC players. I'm a PC player myself since I got it free during the period of time in 2020 when it was available for free on Epic Games. If they brought Expanded and Enhanced + GTA+ to PC... I might get it for the garage and this new feature, plus getting stuff early. However that's just not possible because Rockstar has definitely pivoted to console players (both with this and that the PC version of GTA 6 likely won't come out for a WHILE after the console release) so it extra bothers me when a demographic of players can't access QOL features.
At the VERY least, I bet GTA6 will essentially require gta+ to get anywhere in the game. Non-gta+, business costs $4M puts out $800k every 6hrs making $300k profit...WITH gta+, cost $3M, puts out $1.2M every 3-4hrs, profit of $800k. BET! On top of gta+ gets new cars a week early and has reduced prices on best upgrades.
What makes you think the single-player game won’t require GTA+? What makes you even think there will be a single-player game that is separate from online? 🤷🏻♂️
Doubt they will make that move tbh. If they really care about their money that much, they will continue what they do now which BTW is against all I believe in. I don't and will not pay for +
since 2013 I would never spend a single penny inside GTA Online because of their greedy corporate monetization. There are far better ways to monetize a game than pay-to-win systems and paywalls forcing people to buy in-game money or a subscription. Most gamers don't have good business sense for whatever reason so these companies absolutely clean house while the game itself suffers, along with the player base.
I personally don't care that much about them locking that up behind +. I don't subscribe to the service and probably never will. I have been playing since 2014 when it came free with my ps4 and now I got it on sale for the ps5. I have never bought a sharkcard, in reality I have been a player for 10 years and rockstar has only gotten $25 out of me lmao
They’ve also added a vehicle workshop to the vine wood garage which bypasses level locks which means you don’t have to be level 100 for turbo tuning and other stuff if you have gta+
This is actually pretty shitty even as a person who is paying. i feel that everyone should have had access to this feature. Please note that i only got gta plus as a low level and now use it for the rdr and the other games included
I only started playing GTA 5 last year (level 269 atm) and I will never pay with money for anything GTA, unless it's GTA 6. Paying a subscription to play a computer game (no matter the platform) is utterly insane. I don't buy any modded accounts, nothing. I'm loving playing it, but it seems Rockstar only care about their own greed and less about the gamers' experience.
On the 360, I paid $12mo. for xbox live just to play gta5, so over 500.00 in 3.5yrs. Bought it for PC half a year ago and it's free to play online at least. Today's DLC is also bunk but at least the casino is open again.
Even if Rockstar brought GTA+ to PC, I wouldn't get it now. It is sounding more and more like it will be a requirement for GTA 6, locking out the platform they had the most trouble with, PC. The way Rockstar has been pushing all this, has killed the hype for GTA 6.
I have gta+ and I have to say it’s only worth it if you have allot of it businesses sadly it's not really worth it even with 1 million every month throughout August
I quit gta cause i got a pc and its a wild ride watching it become what it is, i just hope these are social experiments to see how the community will react to stuff like this and of couse help fund gta 6 . If gta 6 online is like the state of gta 5 online, its gonna be a bad 13 years
I have never understood gta Plus when I’m already paying for PlayStation plus to play online I now get to pay even more to play a game that is very old now. I have such a sinking feeling gta 6 will be pay to play each month for the entire thing not just as a selective bonus. So sad, especially with the general worldwide cost of living always going up and up now this is something we can use as a fun break but to pay 2x to play sucks and hurts.
I haven’t been able to get the money out of my agency safe in months. Freezes every time. Would love to be able to get it from my phone in-game instead.
Yeah its an annoying new trend of things, microtransactions to skip grinding is fair enough, but actually locking the whole game behind it on top of needing to buy it anyway sucks, and they're actually locking quality of life features behind it now too. I'm sure items easy to call people "broke" when you dont have anything better to spend yor money on like house, holidays, cars, kids etc but if gta6 is subscription to play i simply won't have it, I mostly play other games anyway
World of Warcraft charges 15 dollars per month and updates the game every 4 months and has servers. If Rockstar is thinking about charging everyone 15 dollars a month to play their game then I want servers which will fix 99% of the modders and hackers and possibly glitchs, I want updates every 4 months.
I can honestly completely agree. Its not about the money, its about the very small feature being added behind a paywall to exclusive platforms. If GTA+ was available for PC players it would even be different as you get the option on your platform, but the idea of having to pay to get to the exclusive platform, then buy the game again, then buy the subscription... You then have to start a new character. I wasn't on back in 2013 so I wasnt around during the time I heard tons of people getting banned for stuff, but I Know I would be upset just having to start over from Level 1. That might honestly have me just go find a different game. I have come to enjoy the peace that GTA now offers me and would kinda suck to lose that, even if the prospect was starting again. IDK if I would have that motivation for something so trival as Allowing PC players access to this feature while offering an Exclusive car to GTA+ (I could honestly live without the Overflood car, We got the Niobe) But that feature with these circumstances, I understand.
the worse thing is its probably take 2 not rockstar, thats a common thing in recent years are game companies getting bought by these big corporate companies then them ruining their games, its no wonder video games are getting so stale and boring nowadays, its all about money now not the community
Hey I agree with u harm bc Rockstar has kicked my girl and her mom off GTA v for the PS4 and now it's saying that they need to buy a ps5 which is ridiculous
This is why I fear for GTA6. I've had this fear for ages cos of all the subscription stuff. Of course, it's fine that they give GTA+ people perks, that's why it exists, but they seem increasingly in favour of the subscription model above all else, so I wouldn't be surprised if PC players get screwed over.
I'm pretty upset with them putting a cool down on tow missions since I always reset a new session to get a closer one or to avoid the rusty rebel since it flips over too easy. Now I'm done with towing but ill just replace it with this new content. I will miss towing a bit though
I agree totally I do admit I’m on Xbox Series X and I do have GTA+ and I completely understand, I really don’t see why this is a premium feature the option could’ve been in our CEO office or something
I dont accept the argument that they need to do these things to make money, every lobby i get into is full of low level players who are new to the game, a lot of people are still buying this game and many of those low level players are kids with shark cards
Unfortunately it’s just another example of corporations taking advantage of complacent/complicit consumers. This won’t ever change, just like most problems in society, unless there’s a critical mass of people “voting with their dollar” and refusing to play the game/refusing to pay for the service until R* is pressured to change. They have no incentive as things are because most people will just continue to pay for it. Sucks but we all kinda have the power to change it (if we really wanted to)
I agree 100% with you Harm, I won’t ever pay for it. I have spent 4900 hours on GTA 5, I just hit 325m without hacks or glitches and I have no reason to buy GTA + it also goes with GTA EnE, it should’ve been for everyone in my opinion not to mention once you go to EnE you can’t go back AND you can’t play with none EnE members? Completely stupid.
I’m on ps4 and The main thing that pissed me off was that u can’t get the vest and badge that’s literally what I looked forward to most 😂 like how hard is it to add a badge and vest on last gen
@@GrySgtBubba yep it’s wack to bc they added all new cars and buisness. Like why can’t the give last gen the new gear for free or something it’s not that hard
I completely agree with the video. In my experience, the ONLY thing GTA+ did is make the community even MORE toxic in the sense that now it’s WAAAAAAAY too easy to make money and now those of us who don’t WANT the subscription because we don’t need it get looked down at. I’ve met some people that would bash me for not having it, calling me names even. And what’s funny is I still made more money than them even with their GTA+ subscription so that would only anger them more and give them reason to dislike me even more. I never bought it because all it offers I already have, but it definitely doesn’t feel fair that it took me years of grinding to get to where I am, and then someone that pays a subscription is now “speed running” the game and gets to the same level of accomplishments (money wise) and now they have an inflated ego. It makes us veterans NOT wanna play and diminishes the credibility of our efforts.
I have gta+ and I completely agree me personally I only have it because I think it’s easier for me to get cars that were removed from the game hopefully this vid does get notice to rockstar and they make it available to all
Rockstar is essentially killing their player base. Bad enough how expensive shark cards are if which i only ever bought 2 in 15 years. On top of that, paying multiple times for the same game and now a subscription??? This is why i stopped playing for over a year. I missed it a bit and returned but now i consider shutting the door on gta
Hot take: Maybe they don't have confidence in GTA 6 sales. What if it's a real stinker and after the initial release date rush people will realize it stinks, sales will drop off, and Rockstar is preparing themselves for big loss bye grabbing every dollar they can leading up to 6
I feel the sameway as you do. I also feel I'm alittle bit part of the problem because I think gta+ is a terrible money grabbing wall and I'm an idiot because I have it and gave in to it. I feel all the benefits I receive through it everyone who plays should have the ability to have the same benefits that I receive from it, but we all know that will never happen...
I'm aware that Rockstar needs to make money to be a functioning business. I also do not take it for granted that they give us two completely free DLC's a year. I get that they need to use microtransactions to make money. I just think they over incentivize with things like what I talk about in the video, that could've been a feature for every player. They could have done something else that would give GTA+ players value for having the service.
Harm come on, there is a sense of entitlement thinking everything should be free, GTA+ makes sense and I actually always thought for $60 I got the best game ever made and if it was $150 I probably would have still paid it (that’s me personally) . it’s a decision on if it’s worth it to each individual.
You were not wrong about all the “cause you’re a broke boy” comments. It’s really odd that people get angry that others don’t feel the need to pay for something.
@@JackBeLucky @HarmNone I got gta+ cause to me I seen it as a thing for new people or people coming back to the game that don’t have the time to grind which is me and for that one feature who knows maybe it’s a test feature that the gta+ user get to try out and it’ll eventually be out for everyone
GTA+ is finally genuinely providing value though. I’m not defending the business practice itself, though I obviously would never mind getting some sort of value out of a service I pay for. And I’ve paid for it for ages, mainly just for the garage and whatever, a few cool liveries, paints etc. and it was never really worth it. But now, the phone app is definitely a HUGE time saver. The Car Club has exclusive liveries. And the Garage has a mod shop - that’s completely unlocked, regardless of rank, and is discounted (way more than the auto shop). So there’s FINALLY value imo. They’re really pushing for people to want to have GTA+. From a marketing standpoint they’ve done a really good job of late. So can’t even fault them 😂.
But yes, all the perks aside, the safe earnings through an app could have totally been a feature for all players - maybe through Sec.Serve. It’s a huge quality upgrade that everyone deserves.
@@vvschrisyt8848 hey man, that’s cool and nothing wrong with that. I was referring to the people that were replying to my comment calling me broke and saying I can’t afford it because I said I would never pay for it. It’s less than $10 dollars US, of course I can afford it. I just don’t need or want it.
I’ll never pay for gta+
It’s weird that so many people feel the need to insult someone because they would choose to not pay for something that they don’t want. Y’all really need to get out and enjoy the real world.
because i'm too broke otherwise i would**
@@gabrielarcand1637 FOUND THE CLOWN
@gabrielarcand1637 not even close bro, it just means you won't give them scumbags at rockstar a bag, even if its like 4 bucks😂
@@gabrielarcand1637
Yeah, let's encourage media leasing instead of ownership by paying out the ass.
How many streaming services are you subscribed to?
Yet you will pay for other gaming franchises and other streaming services but whining about 7.99?
Paywalling features and content is the worst thing a company can do.
They are taking advantage of the players who love their game.
Def a huge L from Rockstar.
I think rockstar justified their prices bases on the production of gta 6, still scummy tho I think
If you really love it then why not just pay 6 fuckin dollars….
@@Mike-coxlongBecause they've already bought the game. Why should anybody be made to pay anymore when people have bought the game like 3 times already?
@@Mike-coxlong i play on pc and even if i could i won't pay them to protest against such selfish behaviour
@@k.23_02 they couldn't even provide us with proper servers and anticheats, its kind of bizzare how they can ask for more money without even fixing these issues.
Its a beloved game for our generation but i feel like the company are deliberately trying to make the playerbase hate the game.
Harmnone: 😤
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This is an extremely slimy business tactic. And you're spot on, it sets a dangerous precident if people just take it lying down. I realize the trend is going towards "you will actually own nothing," so this type of behavior does not need to be rewarded with a subscription to any of these services.
Lmao anyone in this comment section taken a business class in their life? You want more value you have to pay for it, the online game is still free and you get so much value for $0, if you want more there should be a service where someone like me can pay more if they want to enhance the overall experience 🤷🏽♂️
@@YANKEESROX100 so you think it's perfectly acceptable to charge someone for features in a game they already paid for? Features already built in to said game? If you want to pay for early access to items, that's fine and that's your business. Quality of life things like this, no way.
Maybe you need to take an ethics class.
@@bandwagon240 yes it’s perfectly acceptable. Ethically you can download GTA for free and play the game they developed for free. If you want an enhanced version of the game you can choose to pay for it. Ethically you have the decision to pay for it or not but to think it’s not acceptable is entitlement. You are not entitled to anything free but still GTA online is free. You can earn money and status in the game for free
If you’re someone like me who doesn’t have much time to grind and play all the features I prefer paying $8 for an enhanced version of the game.
Yes it should be available and it should always be a decision for the player to choose to pay or not
@@YANKEESROX100 Shark Cards were already available for those who are down on time. So why is a quality of life function another pay to play feature? Like a lot of people, I'm a day 1 player who has purchased this game 4 times (5 including Expanded & Enhanced) and have watched Rockstar nickel and dime people to death over the past 7-8 years.
GTA Online is not free, it is/was included with other paid subscription services, so I'm not sure where you're getting that it's free from.
@YANKEESROX100 it's not free it's $19.99 on PSN buddy. Plus this feature isn't available on PC. You're slow
Just imagine how bad things are going to be for gta 6. On Elder Scrolls Online you gotta pay 140$ year suscription otherwise you are screwed. My guess you can't play gta 6 online without buying this scam.
Bro I heard about that. Upset me cause I was kinda interested in that game. Not now! But I'm very very very afraid GTA6 will be a subscription to play...or at the very least, if you wanna actually get anywhere making money, the simple QOL content and possibly exclusive vehicles...you're gonna need gta+ or you're losing out 30-40% of the game I bet.
WTF are people spending $140 for?!
People give PoE crap for monetizing bag space, but I'd rather pay a one-time fee to unlock extra inventory than a stupid subscription...
imagine if they make it free to download but have like 90% of the content behind a paywall like Fortnite does
@@ryanscott_ Lol That's honestly the absolute most likely thing they'll be doing with 6. Last few updates now they've added gta+ only content...and now have put the pettiest of QOL content behind a paywall... Definitely feels like they're preparing people for 6 to be subscription based.
I'm bout to start punching holes in my wall!!!! I've been talking about a feature like this for years..... im so pissed!
QoL improvements behind a paywall is fuckin ridiculous
Not really lol, you can still achieve everything you want without paying for it, if you want enhanced features you have to pay for it
It could be worse, they could nerf QoL for folks without GTA+. The "new" salvage yard tow mission cool down comes to mind.
Idk if someone pays more they should have better QoL, tho I understand pc players complaints
@@YANKEESROX100 why are you okay with this?
@@shadowtitan8545 it’s not that I’m okay with it but it doesn’t make me upset. I pay for GTA+ because I play the game all the time but I just drive a few cars around for a bit then turn the game off. For $6 or $8 I feel like I enjoy the game more, and for $6 or $8 I better get enough value to justify the cost so having features that free players don’t get makes gta+ better
I just don’t like the take that gta+ is a scam or it’s ridiculous I think those people need to put more thought into why people pay and rather not pay for it
I have GTA + and it's sad to me that they locking features like that behind a paywall it's ridiculous and it's probably not even rockstar themselves it's probably taketwo forcing this
I despise subscription services.
I think they're especially stupid for software and they're ruining the whole media market, while deminishing personal ownership over products you've paid for.
Things are expensive enough without companies trying to squeeze every last cent out of you for stupid subscription models.
Just wanted to let people know that the cool bounty hunter vest (body armour with badge) they teased in the trailer ect is also locked to next generation consoles, I'm on pc and can't get it as it's part of the career progression, ridiculous, fk rockstar
You're so real for talking about this. I feel most people doesn't care until it's too late and gta vi becomes a monthly subscription
GTA plus is actually such a scam!
But unfortunately a lot of people are buying and defending it.
@@jhonadrianclark5203 it's not a scam, rock star tells you straight forward what you're going to get for membership. You pay the money and you get exactly what they said. that's not a scam.. You might not see value in it but it's not a scam
Yep and there the only gaming conpany that does this 🙄
Yay a broke bitch who doesn’t realize this is how you get two free dlcs a year
as an comunity of gta we should make some protests as we dont play gta at all to rockstar make a game not good for them but good for players, without us they are nothing, they straight pipe fucking us on every corner like rockstar is evolving into EA
im still waiting for that enhanced version, my PC is definitely capable of handling it!
IT AINT EVEN A BROKE THING NOW PEOPLE JUST DONT WANT TO GET SCAMMED FOR BUYING THIS GTA + CRAP WE WERE TRUE TO ROCKSTAR THEN AND WE'LL STAY LIKE THAT UNTIL SOME BS HAPPENS WITH GTA 6
People calling others broke for wanting to save money is something I can never wrap my head around.
@StoneOcean24 the type of thing ppl with no money do. Ppl with money know the importance of saving and proper investing
@@lososmith9087 ...which is doubly ironic since a HUGE part of playing GTA online _itself_ is investing and saving your money. Lol
Considering GTA online makes Rockstar 100’s of millions of dollars every single year, the “They’re a business they have to make money” excuse goes right out the window.
They’re greedy. Period.
Exactly, every lobby is half filled with players under lvl 50, these are new people buying the game and the DLCs over the past 4 years have been poor quality that clearly havent cost much to make
Gta making 100 million a year.
Meanwhile a gacha game only adding another jpeg to the game makes half of it in a month. It's the sad state of gaming. Is not about making good games, is about maximizing profit.
@@no.notfromRDR They said this game has made about 8.5 Billion since release. Closer to a billion a year than a 100 mill
💯% agree with you, I've learned a lot about marketing and you can tell that Rockstar is playing with their food at this point. A lot of the stuff in the recent updates have been tests for GTA 6 and the GTA+ subscription is definitely a test to see what feedback it gets from players. And if Rockstar is getting away with it then other gaming companies will try this method out and in the future, gaming will be all about money, not the experience of the game. So yeah you're right and rightfully so to be upset! 👍
Now imagine GTA 6 Online …
dont even wanna imagine
i can already see it: 75% of clothing locked behind gta+ paywall like the club penguin membership all over again
i’ve been saying gta 6 online gonna have the biggest fall off in gaming
@@mithvibes4727reminds me of wizard 101😔
A lot of games are doing these subscription-based perks now. I dont care for any game enough to pay $120+ per year after I already paid the initial price. Nope.
I'm already paying fort playstation plus. I'm not paying a separate subscription for a single game
RS hiding QOL mechanics behind a paywall/removing content for GTA+ sucks donkey balls, I could *maybe* get behind GTA+ if it was only getting new content early/free, bonuses, etc.
corporate greed is not a good look, rockstar
A game about grinding souldnt be tainted in such a stupid way, i havent played this in a year since they got rid of 100+ cars.
Thanks for pointing this out, this is a prime example for corporate greed.
Playing on PC, so I already feel betrayed by being locked out, but this is next level ridiculous.
And thank you for making this known and in general for your videos keeping me and us up to date!
The no PC part is the most annoying aspect of GTA+ in my eyes. Because even when there was something I would say "Yes, I'd pay for that" to, I don't have a reason to buy it since I don't play on console
I'm supper happy you did video on this. I have gta5 plus and planned on canceling it. To meseem everything going to a subcreeion base now. This is the worst idea ever for subconscious. In the long run, it will cost a he'll plot more. Where already paying 70 to 100 plus on games. We need to wake up people and put an end to it all.
''They need to make money'' Dude Rockstar is not a small indie company that is on its last legs. It's absolutely disgusting how they put in gta+ in a 10 year old game that has been ported multiple times to other systems.
Can add Maude to the list of people ringing me as I spawn in😄
This reminds me of the BMW heated seats incident. So you would pay for heated seats to be installed, then you would pay to use them, then you would have to keep paying every month, then if you cancelled the subscription, no heated seats.... even though they're in your car... and you used them... and you paid for them. Yeah well anyway they got sued fucking hard 😂 and I hope the same happens to R* if they try something like this. I love the devs but the corporate side is so greedy. 😔 I feel for you devs, your work will never go unnoticed.
Next sending staff to source cargo by phone 📱 bet ya😂
Don't give the schmucks any ideas shhhhh lol
Already recommended it to them 😂 gta+ rules 👍
Bro posted a bunch of videos for us to enjoy- Very common W harmnone
Not to mention the PIPIstrello is locked until 1 week for non GTA+ members like tf R*?
FR Broo 😂😂 we non GTA+ members have to wait 1 week and then buy it for a good 3 mil and the members get it instantly for free... Like cmon how obvious you want to make it? Rockstar: yes !
you really can't wait 1 week? they literally released more day 1 content then they've done for dlc updates in the past and you're still complaining and crying. It's not that big of a deal
@@isaacclarke7425 exactly, who cares, its not really free either because they are paying for membership that gives them the car... you could buy a shark card for the same price to buy the car, its the same thing. its not free you are paying for it one way or another.
It's actually maybe five minutes, if you change spawn locations then change sessions, collecting goes a lot faster.
It's less about the actual time it takes and more about the principles. This is an easy QoL improvement that should have been implemented years ago. Instead, they lock it behind a pay wall and put a CD on tow truck missions while I'm still losing 25k in ammo every login. They don't do anything for their loyal player base unless it can directly make them more money. It's scummy.
It's now $8.55 including tax. I had it because I got the garage it's not worth it. I've bought this game four times through the years. And I think all of those that have bought shark cards have made them enough.
Can you talk about how they nerf the chop shop? They added a cool down in between tow truck missions
Love your videos and also your commentary, and in particular your odd justifiable rants against R*.
Keep it up as your voice is heard.
Thank you from me in the UK.
Much appreciated!
5:00 Don't give them ideas!!!!
😂😭💀
Glad you've done a video on this, a big channel needed to cover it as this is just wrong. GTA+ players get so many benefits now including core mechanics that should be available for everyone, this new app on the phone being a prime example. The discount on Staff in the new business they get really irked me too.....love playing this game, but this divide between newer consoles and PC really annoys me.
They don't bring it on PC because of the cheaters, you know these guys who can't play a game because they suck at everything?
So they cheat all the time and worst, they harass good players with their bad addiction and laziness...
Cheater are the scum of all games.
That's why we can't have nice things... u_u
100% agree! I want to buy and own my games, subscriptions seem kinda skeevy for games.
Totally agree Lupo!
@@HarmNone not only does subscriptions for games feel extremely insane, it also bothers me that the benefits that GTA+ give just fully are not available to PC players. I'm a PC player myself since I got it free during the period of time in 2020 when it was available for free on Epic Games. If they brought Expanded and Enhanced + GTA+ to PC... I might get it for the garage and this new feature, plus getting stuff early. However that's just not possible because Rockstar has definitely pivoted to console players (both with this and that the PC version of GTA 6 likely won't come out for a WHILE after the console release) so it extra bothers me when a demographic of players can't access QOL features.
The thing I hate the most is that it’s exclusive to next gen consoles. Like I’d be more accepting of GTA+ if it was available on all platforms
They would rather you bought a next gen and another copy of the game first. Its all part of the strategy to squeeze every penny they can out of you.
My fear is that GTA6 Online will be a full subscription service, like in order to play online at all you must have GTA+
At the VERY least, I bet GTA6 will essentially require gta+ to get anywhere in the game. Non-gta+, business costs $4M puts out $800k every 6hrs making $300k profit...WITH gta+, cost $3M, puts out $1.2M every 3-4hrs, profit of $800k. BET!
On top of gta+ gets new cars a week early and has reduced prices on best upgrades.
I already pay PlayStation for that privilege. They can share my 80 bucks a year.
@woodman24222 then don't play majority of games that do the same exact thing.
What makes you think the single-player game won’t require GTA+? What makes you even think there will be a single-player game that is separate from online? 🤷🏻♂️
Doubt they will make that move tbh. If they really care about their money that much, they will continue what they do now which BTW is against all I believe in. I don't and will not pay for +
I completely agree man , this does not look good for gta6, I wish more people would say something about this
since 2013 I would never spend a single penny inside GTA Online because of their greedy corporate monetization. There are far better ways to monetize a game than pay-to-win systems and paywalls forcing people to buy in-game money or a subscription. Most gamers don't have good business sense for whatever reason so these companies absolutely clean house while the game itself suffers, along with the player base.
I personally don't care that much about them locking that up behind +. I don't subscribe to the service and probably never will. I have been playing since 2014 when it came free with my ps4 and now I got it on sale for the ps5. I have never bought a sharkcard, in reality I have been a player for 10 years and rockstar has only gotten $25 out of me lmao
They’ve also added a vehicle workshop to the vine wood garage which bypasses level locks which means you don’t have to be level 100 for turbo tuning and other stuff if you have gta+
Brilliant 👏
I mean, owning an auto shop also bypasses level unlocks
Today Rockstar games give update to ps5 and ps4 like 1h before xbox and pc .
This is actually pretty shitty even as a person who is paying. i feel that everyone should have had access to this feature.
Please note that i only got gta plus as a low level and now use it for the rdr and the other games included
They removed a phone app and put on something that could have just been interaction menu stuff
I only started playing GTA 5 last year (level 269 atm) and I will never pay with money for anything GTA, unless it's GTA 6. Paying a subscription to play a computer game (no matter the platform) is utterly insane. I don't buy any modded accounts, nothing. I'm loving playing it, but it seems Rockstar only care about their own greed and less about the gamers' experience.
On the 360, I paid $12mo. for xbox live just to play gta5, so over 500.00 in 3.5yrs.
Bought it for PC half a year ago and it's free to play online at least.
Today's DLC is also bunk but at least the casino is open again.
I’ll just be doing the no loss Casino method now. They don’t want me to play legit? Fine with me
I wonder if this is somewhat of a turning point for the series
Even if Rockstar brought GTA+ to PC, I wouldn't get it now. It is sounding more and more like it will be a requirement for GTA 6, locking out the platform they had the most trouble with, PC.
The way Rockstar has been pushing all this, has killed the hype for GTA 6.
are you kidding me brother lol
off topic but the minecraft music in the bg?
ykb brother
I have it because I wanted the new super car but I definitely agree 💯
I have gta+ and I have to say it’s only worth it if you have allot of it businesses sadly it's not really worth it even with 1 million every month throughout August
I quit gta cause i got a pc and its a wild ride watching it become what it is, i just hope these are social experiments to see how the community will react to stuff like this and of couse help fund gta 6 . If gta 6 online is like the state of gta 5 online, its gonna be a bad 13 years
I never have paid for any kind of service like this it's absolutely absurd but no surprise, eventually I just won't play their games. Great vid.
I have never understood gta Plus when I’m already paying for PlayStation plus to play online I now get to pay even more to play a game that is very old now. I have such a sinking feeling gta 6 will be pay to play each month for the entire thing not just as a selective bonus. So sad, especially with the general worldwide cost of living always going up and up now this is something we can use as a fun break but to pay 2x to play sucks and hurts.
for me its not even about the gta +, its about not being on PC
I'll never pay for a shark card and I'll never pay for GTA Plus I beat Rockstar their own game grindin 200 million strong
Thank you for making a video and speaking for all of us who don’t have a voice like your platform. Thank you HN! 🙏
I haven’t been able to get the money out of my agency safe in months. Freezes every time. Would love to be able to get it from my phone in-game instead.
Yeah its an annoying new trend of things, microtransactions to skip grinding is fair enough, but actually locking the whole game behind it on top of needing to buy it anyway sucks, and they're actually locking quality of life features behind it now too. I'm sure items easy to call people "broke" when you dont have anything better to spend yor money on like house, holidays, cars, kids etc but if gta6 is subscription to play i simply won't have it, I mostly play other games anyway
You can do this in the interactions menu to claim all your businesses with the new update.
I'm still mad that wild life is only for the expanded and enhanced edition
Me and a buddy always say how much rockstar sucks.
World of Warcraft charges 15 dollars per month and updates the game every 4 months and has servers. If Rockstar is thinking about charging everyone 15 dollars a month to play their game then I want servers which will fix 99% of the modders and hackers and possibly glitchs, I want updates every 4 months.
I can honestly completely agree. Its not about the money, its about the very small feature being added behind a paywall to exclusive platforms. If GTA+ was available for PC players it would even be different as you get the option on your platform, but the idea of having to pay to get to the exclusive platform, then buy the game again, then buy the subscription... You then have to start a new character. I wasn't on back in 2013 so I wasnt around during the time I heard tons of people getting banned for stuff, but I Know I would be upset just having to start over from Level 1. That might honestly have me just go find a different game. I have come to enjoy the peace that GTA now offers me and would kinda suck to lose that, even if the prospect was starting again. IDK if I would have that motivation for something so trival as Allowing PC players access to this feature while offering an Exclusive car to GTA+ (I could honestly live without the Overflood car, We got the Niobe) But that feature with these circumstances, I understand.
the worse thing is its probably take 2 not rockstar, thats a common thing in recent years are game companies getting bought by these big corporate companies then them ruining their games, its no wonder video games are getting so stale and boring nowadays, its all about money now not the community
The fact the gta plus shows as a app in your phone in gta online even if you don’t have it is crazy
that Minecraft theme hits hard with any emotions men for real
Hey I agree with u harm bc Rockstar has kicked my girl and her mom off GTA v for the PS4 and now it's saying that they need to buy a ps5 which is ridiculous
...Weaponized Ignus 😠
This is why I fear for GTA6. I've had this fear for ages cos of all the subscription stuff. Of course, it's fine that they give GTA+ people perks, that's why it exists, but they seem increasingly in favour of the subscription model above all else, so I wouldn't be surprised if PC players get screwed over.
I'm pretty upset with them putting a cool down on tow missions since I always reset a new session to get a closer one or to avoid the rusty rebel since it flips over too easy. Now I'm done with towing but ill just replace it with this new content. I will miss towing a bit though
Ah dammit I did that too
I agree totally I do admit I’m on Xbox Series X and I do have GTA+ and I completely understand, I really don’t see why this is a premium feature the option could’ve been in our CEO office or something
Facts bro. Never payin for a GTA + subscription.
I dont accept the argument that they need to do these things to make money, every lobby i get into is full of low level players who are new to the game, a lot of people are still buying this game and many of those low level players are kids with shark cards
I have gta+ but honestly didnt think of the harm its doing , damn smh yeah this is becoming way to crafty now
Unfortunately it’s just another example of corporations taking advantage of complacent/complicit consumers. This won’t ever change, just like most problems in society, unless there’s a critical mass of people “voting with their dollar” and refusing to play the game/refusing to pay for the service until R* is pressured to change. They have no incentive as things are because most people will just continue to pay for it. Sucks but we all kinda have the power to change it (if we really wanted to)
Makes me wanna cancel my GTAplus I didn't know that
I only got GTA+ for the big ass garage but this is another plus
Same but I hate that it’s all money money money
@@sameerbernard1167 Same bro but GTA has always been kinda pay-to-win(?) with shark cards and even modded accounts for sale on E.D., it’s sad but true
The calm Minecraft music almost makes me not mad at this. Almost.
hey, wheres the weekly update info about what to buy and what not to buy? hope you havent forgotten
I agree 100% with you Harm, I won’t ever pay for it. I have spent 4900 hours on GTA 5, I just hit 325m without hacks or glitches and I have no reason to buy GTA + it also goes with GTA EnE, it should’ve been for everyone in my opinion not to mention once you go to EnE you can’t go back AND you can’t play with none EnE members? Completely stupid.
I’m on ps4 and The main thing that pissed me off was that u can’t get the vest and badge that’s literally what I looked forward to most 😂 like how hard is it to add a badge and vest on last gen
WHAT??????? That's such bullshit!! Man...F R* bro. I'm on PS4 too as I won't buy the game a third time; Xbox 360, PS4, now PC.
@@GrySgtBubba yep it’s wack to bc they added all new cars and buisness. Like why can’t the give last gen the new gear for free or something it’s not that hard
I completely agree with the video. In my experience, the ONLY thing GTA+ did is make the community even MORE toxic in the sense that now it’s WAAAAAAAY too easy to make money and now those of us who don’t WANT the subscription because we don’t need it get looked down at.
I’ve met some people that would bash me for not having it, calling me names even. And what’s funny is I still made more money than them even with their GTA+ subscription so that would only anger them more and give them reason to dislike me even more.
I never bought it because all it offers I already have, but it definitely doesn’t feel fair that it took me years of grinding to get to where I am, and then someone that pays a subscription is now “speed running” the game and gets to the same level of accomplishments (money wise) and now they have an inflated ego. It makes us veterans NOT wanna play and diminishes the credibility of our efforts.
I get the garage, i get the eary access but why is this locked behind money aahhh!
Absolutely horrendous thing to do, I cannot believe what I am seeing
I have gta+ and I completely agree me personally I only have it because I think it’s easier for me to get cars that were removed from the game hopefully this vid does get notice to rockstar and they make it available to all
R* is gust greedy about money. they make MILLIONS from GTA Online a DAY. i hate to say it but greed is gonna be the downfall of there company.
R* Will Never Have A Downfall 😅
@@MiguelAguasvivass every company that is greed will fall. a loth of them have. the probly got gov money to pull out of it and hide it.
I have GTA plus only because I don't want to grind and I never thought of GTA's negative aspects like that
Rockstar is essentially killing their player base. Bad enough how expensive shark cards are if which i only ever bought 2 in 15 years. On top of that, paying multiple times for the same game and now a subscription??? This is why i stopped playing for over a year. I missed it a bit and returned but now i consider shutting the door on gta
Hot take: Maybe they don't have confidence in GTA 6 sales. What if it's a real stinker and after the initial release date rush people will realize it stinks, sales will drop off, and Rockstar is preparing themselves for big loss bye grabbing every dollar they can leading up to 6
I already bought the game , I'm not going to rent it , to play . would you by a car , then pay to rent it ?
I feel the sameway as you do. I also feel I'm alittle bit part of the problem because I think gta+ is a terrible money grabbing wall and I'm an idiot because I have it and gave in to it. I feel all the benefits I receive through it everyone who plays should have the ability to have the same benefits that I receive from it, but we all know that will never happen...
It is not only about GTA5 , it is about all games , if other companies notice that it worked on GTA they will do it too.
And it is not only games , it's almost every new app or anything has a computer or a program in it.
Minecraft music in the background. Nice