Just wanted to say that the real reason why custom moves were banned is because it was far too much of a hassle to unlock them all for every character because there were SO MANY and a lot of it was tied behind RNG. To have to do that for every console at a venue was just not feasible. They were legal, at least in my region, for a decent stretch of time for only for the characters who started with them all, but as soon as the first DLC character was released (Mewtwo) who didn't have any custom moves at all it solidified that they'd be banned since the DLC characters weren't going to have any. But yeah it's not just that some were stupid OP.
Ngl, I can accept that Palutena was an interesting character, it sucks that her default moveset wasn't that great unless you add in custom movesets for her, yet the way they did her in Ultimate was such a big comeback, I mean... she is a goddess so I expect her to be very powerful.
@@orangeslash1667 even if you space well he's very slow and wing doesn't suit him when he's as light as kirby, as alot of times he gets ko'd at the percent he gets wing. And theres nothing high risk/reward about wolf
@@ObiTheOneNonly One wing gives Sephiroth more mobility, not defense. Also Wolf not the main villain of the series, that would be Andross. He even helps Fox in Assault.
6:00 its also worth mentioning her down special will counter/reflect regardless of which direction the attack comes from, which K rool’s down special cannot do
@@seejoshrun1761 at least wolf has enough issues to balance it out like the recovery so he’s prone to getting edge guarded and 2 framed. Slow mobility also means he’s forced to short hop a ton
I think she's a well-designed character in a similar manner to Wolf, where they both have an answer for every situation, no matter how dire it is. While Palutena did receive a lot of nerfs, she's not outright unfair while being really good. She's a popular character to play as because she's a fundies character, and they are popular as you mentioned in your fundementals video.
"Smash players found that an element provided even a little variety or unpredictability, and thus was banned from competitive play." Never change, competitive smash.
I think the issue with custom specials was twofold Some of them were just straight up not doing what they were advertised to do, and the grind to get them all was atrocious. If custom moves were better balanced and were just put on all characters by default, there would probably have been a broader sentiment behind not banning them
Ah yes, Nair the Character's wife, Nairia XD Seriously tho, I like her mix of long combo strings and zoning potential, makes for a unique playstyle that allows her to either hang back and deal chip damage from afar, or get up in her opponent's face and make sure they shall be purified XD
@@TrintellixLeGaulois its not even her best move becomnes just a get off me past 50 and also your basically vaulting the character because you dont like a move
To be fair, it makes total sense that Palutena's kit is not too flashy, and entirely practical and yet powerful, considering that her classical mythology counterpart is the goddess of wisdom and warfare.
For April Fools you should do a Why no One Plays video on a character, where the reason no one plays them is because they aren't in the game. I think it would be great.
I feel like palutena might be one of the most obvious for this kind of video. My guess is that you did all these points about smash 4 to expand the vod. This video could have literally been 5 minutes LOL. Great video!
Yeah, Palutena is broken. She's ostensibly the Franks civilization in AoE2 - good in every single elo bracket and relatively simple to pick up and learn (unlike Franks, she's not the easiest character in Smash of COURSE).
Great video could you please make Why Everyone Plays Mario i think it would be a very great video considering he was thought to be mid tier when the game started
I whole heartedly agree. She's probably the best all rounder in my opinion kit-wise. Nothing broken and turns all matchups into a skill matchup. You never feel bad playing her and she turns the fight into a simple, "if you are better, you win but it I'm better, I win". And I totally love watching good fundamental gameplay translate into wins. I feel like the people who joke about just pressing nerutal air on Palutena are sore losers because if you're only thinking about 1 move and you lose to that 1 move, I don't think you'd be able to call yourself good enough to win. If anything they should be complaining that palutenas moves are all good and she can do so many things without a clear weakness.
Palutena mains will tell you this character is 'honest' and complain about how nobody plays her anymore. Palutena is still one of the most successful characters in this game stop complaining.
She’s only honest for braindead coomers who fall asleep button mashing. Everybody just forgot how much of a hack Sakurai is toward his own franchises in each instalment of smash (remember Kirby in 64? Remember how half of the represented games in Smash4 through items and trophies and all that jazz was Kid Icarus Uprising?) when the pay2win DLCs came out one by one up until Steve literally ruined the competitive scene
@@TrintellixLeGaulois Steve worst match up is Sonic. So Steves weakness is that as long as you don't attack him he can't attack you because he's so slow.
@@orangeslash1667 in other words the counterplay against Steve is to hope to get a stock first and camp him for the rest of the match. What an amazing game.
@@TrintellixLeGaulois Thats because Smash bros is about punishing others for being too aggressive. Thats why some players prefer to play campy, because if the opponent is too inconsistent, then punishing them at the right time becomes more frustrating. The more predicable the opponent, the sooner the match ends.
Also, don't forget something: SHE'S SEXY. But in all seriouness, Palu is an amazing all-rounder due to having lots of consistency and low endlag, even if her moves are somewhat sluggish in startup. Glad they removed her unfair advantages while still keeping her regular tools who cover anything, although that might be because she was created by Sakurai... Nah, it can be that, if anything being made by him is a curse in competitive. Also, about her weaknesses, they do exist and are there to make her mostly fair to fight against, unlike certain cubic guy or demon guy.
I mean Steve and kazuya do have weaknesses Arguably more than palu. It’s just that Palu’s strengths are not so overtuned that it literally forces you to change how you play the game.
Unpopular opinion but I miss custom moves. While I love Ultimate to bits, it leans more in favor of competitive play whereas Smash 4 feels more balanced between the competitive and the casual as a whole. Even though I enjoy playing Palu more in Smash 4, I'm glad to see she's moved up in the meta.
Custom moves were honestly super good imo. It’s just some of them were broken and unbalanced - making tournament rules tricky. The way to unlock them was completly stupid. Should’ve been all unlocked in tournament mode + unlock all moves for a character uppn finishing classic
For all the Palu mains here: what are your thoughts on Aegis and Rob matchups? These characters are my demon matchups and I feel like Palu would be a good counterpick
For Aegis it’s a hard matchup but also if you can edge guard and keep them off stage it’s very doable. As for Rob well he is big combo food. It’s probably evenish or 55-45 matchup if I had to guess.
Forgive me if this is a little dark. But I must say it is always nice to see a character who competitive players like playing and who is genuinely fun to watch in competitive matches. Otherwise, one will live in fear of a day that some allegation(s) will be brought against the player of said character, which will ban them from events for life. And then, at that point, no one is there to rep that character. 😥 Thankfully, Palu is not the kind of character that we have to worry about leaving the scene anytime soon. One Palu main getting banned is hardly gonna affect her rep in competitive.
Why people play Palutena: A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one. She's perfectly balanced and she aces all the traits, if you will.
one thing that annoys me about being a palu main is that you could try and go to a video about palu and how to use her and play her then you check and the video is from like 3 years ago
UP SMASH "Sigh" out all the moves I expected to be complained about I expected this one a gaint beam of light that shoots straight up in the air to be it but instead it's NEUTRAL AIR(juggling). almost like UP SMASH doesn't even exist given zero credit unless I missed something.
Perfect summary tbh. She’s just a great character that relies on good fundamentals. She has no polarizing matchups, has great stats, and has an answer for everything. Just a really fun/great character that doesn’t feel too bullshit to fight.
Sora: he's good, but he's too late to focus on learning. Cloud: he's good, but the man couldn't grab a fish hook if it got stuck in him. Incineroar: he's good, but only if you like taking and dealing EmOtioNaL dAmaGe. Palutena: she's good. She's good! She's just GOOD
Ehh I just don’t think it’s ideal for fighting Honestly the original should’ve been included, I think it would’ve fit better They basically made it more somber for the fighting game remix
I personally dislike Palutena, but that’s mostly due to my like of skill in Smash. Glad to know I now have well-researched evidence to complain to my friends. Great video, keep up the good work
We shouldn't be mentioning pedophiles at all in the casual way this video does. At least put a disclaimer or something. It feels like everyone in the smash community wants to pretend it didn't happen@@legrandliseurtri7495
this character is so fucking broken and ez to pick, it's just waaay too strong, this nair and this upairs should get judged for warcrimes and don't get me started on the side B I hate Palu
There are 2 types of palutena mains: the ones that use her for her nair and the ones that use her for her side taunt…
Ahuhuhu!
I snorted.
There's 3
The one that use her for her side b
Just wanted to say that the real reason why custom moves were banned is because it was far too much of a hassle to unlock them all for every character because there were SO MANY and a lot of it was tied behind RNG. To have to do that for every console at a venue was just not feasible. They were legal, at least in my region, for a decent stretch of time for only for the characters who started with them all, but as soon as the first DLC character was released (Mewtwo) who didn't have any custom moves at all it solidified that they'd be banned since the DLC characters weren't going to have any. But yeah it's not just that some were stupid OP.
Ngl, I can accept that Palutena was an interesting character, it sucks that her default moveset wasn't that great unless you add in custom movesets for her, yet the way they did her in Ultimate was such a big comeback, I mean... she is a goddess so I expect her to be very powerful.
Kirby be like
and then there's sephiroth
@@ObiTheOneNonly Sephiroth is powerful but only when your good at spacing. A lot of villains in Smash are very high risk, high reward.
@@orangeslash1667 even if you space well he's very slow and wing doesn't suit him when he's as light as kirby, as alot of times he gets ko'd at the percent he gets wing. And theres nothing high risk/reward about wolf
@@ObiTheOneNonly One wing gives Sephiroth more mobility, not defense.
Also Wolf not the main villain of the series, that would be Andross. He even helps Fox in Assault.
6:00 its also worth mentioning her down special will counter/reflect regardless of which direction the attack comes from, which K rool’s down special cannot do
Well, Palutena has one weakness. *Short people.*
“No One Can Hide From The Light!”
And yet her mains are all zitfaced basement-dwelling coomers who haven’t seen the sun in years
Palu despite being a Jack of all trades basically has everything jacked up making her one of the most privileged characters ever
She's a goddess so it makes sense
@@redram6080 Fun Fact: Palu is based on Athena the Greek goddess of wisdom, so her being a balanced character makes sense.
@@redram6080glad I ain’t the only one who also thinks the same
Kind of like Wolf - jack of all trades, but not too far off from the specialists in each area.
@@seejoshrun1761 at least wolf has enough issues to balance it out like the recovery so he’s prone to getting edge guarded and 2 framed. Slow mobility also means he’s forced to short hop a ton
I think she's a well-designed character in a similar manner to Wolf, where they both have an answer for every situation, no matter how dire it is. While Palutena did receive a lot of nerfs, she's not outright unfair while being really good. She's a popular character to play as because she's a fundies character, and they are popular as you mentioned in your fundementals video.
"Smash players found that an element provided even a little variety or unpredictability, and thus was banned from competitive play." Never change, competitive smash.
I think the issue with custom specials was twofold
Some of them were just straight up not doing what they were advertised to do, and the grind to get them all was atrocious.
If custom moves were better balanced and were just put on all characters by default, there would probably have been a broader sentiment behind not banning them
My girl! Even after she got nerfed she’s still more than viable. I love her play style.
no one else does, tierwh0r3
Ah yes, Nair the Character's wife, Nairia XD
Seriously tho, I like her mix of long combo strings and zoning potential, makes for a unique playstyle that allows her to either hang back and deal chip damage from afar, or get up in her opponent's face and make sure they shall be purified XD
@@ZachStarAttack skill issue
She’s such a blast to play I agree. And yeah she’s still absurdly good, just not outright broken unlike the absolute top tiers
@@ZachStarAttackcalling them a nerd would suffice, having a palu pfp is a bit too much
Personally, I believe that it was the fact that some customs were flipping broken (D.K. the last airbender, trip sap, etc) that led to their ban.
It also was a pain to unlock all of the custom moves
@@AWater22the unlock made it so that not all tournaments would have the custom moves unlocked so... Yeah...
Palutena could've gone either way as a "Why No One Plays" or "Why Everyone Plays" and I wouldn't be surprised. Great analysis as always!
I feel no strong emotion one way or the other.
whenever we talk about palutena the only thing i remember is her pre patch dash grab range
I think only her standing grab got nerfed LOL
I think it was her standing grab
Should have just replaced her nair entirely.
@@TrintellixLeGaulois its not even her best move becomnes just a get off me past 50 and also your basically vaulting the character because you dont like a move
To be fair, it makes total sense that Palutena's kit is not too flashy, and entirely practical and yet powerful, considering that her classical mythology counterpart is the goddess of wisdom and warfare.
Can you do “Why No One Plays: Zelda”?
To quote Happy Souls
"Cuz it's easy, and it does a lot of dmg"
When i’m in a "braindead no risk every single reward" competition and my opponent is a palutena main
For April Fools you should do a Why no One Plays video on a character, where the reason no one plays them is because they aren't in the game.
I think it would be great.
Should do it on geno lol
Fighting alloy teams. 😔 rip
Cringe, lame idea
I feel like palutena might be one of the most obvious for this kind of video. My guess is that you did all these points about smash 4 to expand the vod. This video could have literally been 5 minutes LOL.
Great video!
tbf her rise from sm4sh to ssbu is one of the biggest reasons why so many people play her but yeahhhh it is pretty obvious
Yeah, Palutena is broken. She's ostensibly the Franks civilization in AoE2 - good in every single elo bracket and relatively simple to pick up and learn (unlike Franks, she's not the easiest character in Smash of COURSE).
An AoE2 comment. Great. :)
Great video could you please make Why Everyone Plays Mario i think it would be a very great video considering he was thought to be mid tier when the game started
I've waited 2 years for this video
We all knew this was coming, she's broken
Hey Vars! I'd love to see you do a video on Mr. Game and Watch.. I'm not sure if it would be a why everyone or no one plays though
We all know the real reason everyone plays her is because she is a certain word that starts with a W which sounds like "wafer".
"Everyone plays Palutena"
*Checks tourneys*
Ah yes, 1 Palutena.
Their braindead coomer asses went into hiding when Steve arrived to take the crown of most busted, literally spaghetti code-broken character yet.
There are a lot of palutenas in tourneys wdym?
Neutral Aerial
Did you do a why everybody plays gnw vid yet?
I whole heartedly agree. She's probably the best all rounder in my opinion kit-wise. Nothing broken and turns all matchups into a skill matchup. You never feel bad playing her and she turns the fight into a simple, "if you are better, you win but it I'm better, I win". And I totally love watching good fundamental gameplay translate into wins. I feel like the people who joke about just pressing nerutal air on Palutena are sore losers because if you're only thinking about 1 move and you lose to that 1 move, I don't think you'd be able to call yourself good enough to win. If anything they should be complaining that palutenas moves are all good and she can do so many things without a clear weakness.
We need a Lucina video
YES PLZ!
Ah yes the Goddess of end lag lol
Palutena mains will tell you this character is 'honest' and complain about how nobody plays her anymore. Palutena is still one of the most successful characters in this game stop complaining.
Of course she's honest, because so is Pit.
She’s only honest for braindead coomers who fall asleep button mashing. Everybody just forgot how much of a hack Sakurai is toward his own franchises in each instalment of smash (remember Kirby in 64? Remember how half of the represented games in Smash4 through items and trophies and all that jazz was Kid Icarus Uprising?) when the pay2win DLCs came out one by one up until Steve literally ruined the competitive scene
@@TrintellixLeGaulois Steve worst match up is Sonic. So Steves weakness is that as long as you don't attack him he can't attack you because he's so slow.
@@orangeslash1667 in other words the counterplay against Steve is to hope to get a stock first and camp him for the rest of the match. What an amazing game.
@@TrintellixLeGaulois Thats because Smash bros is about punishing others for being too aggressive. Thats why some players prefer to play campy, because if the opponent is too inconsistent, then punishing them at the right time becomes more frustrating.
The more predicable the opponent, the sooner the match ends.
Also, don't forget something: SHE'S SEXY. But in all seriouness, Palu is an amazing all-rounder due to having lots of consistency and low endlag, even if her moves are somewhat sluggish in startup. Glad they removed her unfair advantages while still keeping her regular tools who cover anything, although that might be because she was created by Sakurai... Nah, it can be that, if anything being made by him is a curse in competitive.
Also, about her weaknesses, they do exist and are there to make her mostly fair to fight against, unlike certain cubic guy or demon guy.
I mean Steve and kazuya do have weaknesses
Arguably more than palu.
It’s just that Palu’s strengths are not so overtuned that it literally forces you to change how you play the game.
Her jab is solid and also kills.
Because she slays. Next question
I really miss Custom moves man....
Yuss, Eunie's da boss!
Unpopular opinion but I miss custom moves. While I love Ultimate to bits, it leans more in favor of competitive play whereas Smash 4 feels more balanced between the competitive and the casual as a whole.
Even though I enjoy playing Palu more in Smash 4, I'm glad to see she's moved up in the meta.
If custom moves were easier to unlock and were more balanced yeah definitely they are a great idea.
You forgot to mention that she is beautiful, thats anothor good reason to play palu XD
LUCARIOOO PLEASSEEEE IM BEGGING YOUUUU
Pit the angel: Alright! She's popular! ;3
Dark Pit the fallen angel: Gonna end him with this! >:/
Black Hole, and Mega laser.
People hate me because if I'm not running circles around them with sonic, I'm juggling them with Palutena.
Custom moves were honestly super good imo.
It’s just some of them were broken and unbalanced - making tournament rules tricky.
The way to unlock them was completly stupid. Should’ve been all unlocked in tournament mode + unlock all moves for a character uppn finishing classic
For all the Palu mains here: what are your thoughts on Aegis and Rob matchups? These characters are my demon matchups and I feel like Palu would be a good counterpick
For Aegis it’s a hard matchup but also if you can edge guard and keep them off stage it’s very doable. As for Rob well he is big combo food. It’s probably evenish or 55-45 matchup if I had to guess.
She’s easy to play, has basically no character specific tech to learn, and had a good balance of matchups.
Oh, you forgot to mention that she's also popular cause she's hot. 😏
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, WE ALL KNOW WHY WE PLAYED HER!
DON'T LIE!
Oh my brother in Christ
We all know why
Yeah I really enjoy to play palu, she feel all around good to play
Forgive me if this is a little dark. But I must say it is always nice to see a character who competitive players like playing and who is genuinely fun to watch in competitive matches. Otherwise, one will live in fear of a day that some allegation(s) will be brought against the player of said character, which will ban them from events for life. And then, at that point, no one is there to rep that character. 😥 Thankfully, Palu is not the kind of character that we have to worry about leaving the scene anytime soon. One Palu main getting banned is hardly gonna affect her rep in competitive.
Woah dude, that’s way too dark for TH-cam
why no one plays Isabelle?
Cause tall anime lady
Palutena main since smash 4
Palutana is soooooo
Goood!
Requesting Why No One Plays Meta Knight, please 🙏
This is probably the best video that could’ve made my way considering I’m just now picking her up.
Honest Top Tier
Palutena is Best Nintendo Goddess
How Dare You Make Why No One Plays Donkey Kong
Why people play Palutena: A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one. She's perfectly balanced and she aces all the traits, if you will.
I will never forgive the dthrow and nair nerf
I will eat popcorn salted in your tears over it.
When I was very new to smash my friend destroyed me with palutina and I have hated palutina ever since 💀
Why Everyone plays fox and why no one plays Lucario Lucas or king k rool
one thing that annoys me about being a palu main is that you could try and go to a video about palu and how to use her and play her then you check and the video is from like 3 years ago
Make a video about Yoshi
Can we get a game and watch video? (If it doesn't already exist)
Confused by this…Raflow, Lui$ and Chase? Is that ‘everyone’?
well thankfully the too loud music from the previous video is gone.
UP SMASH "Sigh" out all the moves I expected to be complained about I expected this one a gaint beam of light that shoots straight up in the air to be it but instead it's
NEUTRAL AIR(juggling).
almost like UP SMASH doesn't even exist given zero credit unless I missed something.
Her upsmash is just slightly above mid. Nothing crazy
i mean it’s nothing special beyond its huge range. meh kill power, meh speed, it only hits one side, it’s a grounded move on palu etc
Perfect summary tbh. She’s just a great character that relies on good fundamentals. She has no polarizing matchups, has great stats, and has an answer for everything. Just a really fun/great character that doesn’t feel too bullshit to fight.
This is the Mid off I’m gonna have here :’)))))
Its reeeeaaalllll!!!!
They think she's hot
Next vid: Why camping Steeve Sonic and Luigi should be morally correct.
it just is
Imagine my joy when my main from Smash 4 got this kind of buff in ultimate
Cool, because literally everyone else is yawning.
tbh i like palu, as a Lucina Joker co-main i always appreciate good fundies
Game and watch
Heehoo Spinny Stick goo
PSHPSHPSHPSHPSH
Sora: he's good, but he's too late to focus on learning.
Cloud: he's good, but the man couldn't grab a fish hook if it got stuck in him.
Incineroar: he's good, but only if you like taking and dealing EmOtioNaL dAmaGe.
Palutena: she's good. She's good! She's just GOOD
She's also the only character who didn't get their physical assets nerfed
Of course the fighter made by Sakurai got a pass in that aspect... or maybe he knew the japanese law well enough when making Palutena.
Sakurai is a hack who jacks it to her lmao
I love spamming her dash attack it feels so good to land😂
Try staying awake when you play online multiplayer games.
Cause she’s wife. *leaves*
YESSSSS FINALLYYYY PALUTENA🫶🏽
Paluten(air)a
Of all the chars to become meta, I think palu is my fave
Easy answer: Nair
Hi mommy :3
Palu is a great character but very boring for me. Always falling asleep at the wheel after the first few matches.
Waifu status
👍
Nair
She's a mommy.
Idk bout you but she has a lot of shipping art with lucina
because nair
Her theme is pretty obnoxious.
Ehh I just don’t think it’s ideal for fighting
Honestly the original should’ve been included, I think it would’ve fit better
They basically made it more somber for the fighting game remix
Why no one plays Palutena
I personally dislike Palutena, but that’s mostly due to my like of skill in Smash. Glad to know I now have well-researched evidence to complain to my friends. Great video, keep up the good work
MID
Why are we talking about the pedophile at the start of the video, I don't care how good Nario was.
''talking about'' He mentions him once.
wut
We shouldn't be mentioning pedophiles at all in the casual way this video does. At least put a disclaimer or something. It feels like everyone in the smash community wants to pretend it didn't happen@@legrandliseurtri7495
this character is so fucking broken and ez to pick, it's just waaay too strong, this nair and this upairs should get judged for warcrimes and don't get me started on the side B
I hate Palu
Sounds like someone couldn't hide from the light ;)
Because shes easy and theyre bad