Well mini PCs are popular right now thanks to 780m igpu, and with USB 4 you can plug in an external GPU. Mini PCs are super easy to transport too. Pick it up to take to a buddy's house, and plug it into their TV. I like them. Personally I snagged a slim PC with a 10th Gen Intel, and use it for emulation, batocera. I am thinking about fencing it for a 12th Gen Intel because single thread uplift was significant compared to 10th Gen. 10100 vs 12100
Just a point of clarity. Edge is Chromium based as well as many other browsers. It might be better but not by a huge amount even if they say Chromium takes out the tracking. There is a specific "ungoogled" Chromium build out there that removes all the extra stuff Google still has in the Chromium code. Opera, Brave, Safari, Puffin, and a lot more are Chromium based browsers. Firefox is probably one of the main ways to go to avoid Google.
Just to point out that you are telling a tech channel about this and he is huge Firefox advocate and wishes that more browsers based their browsers off of Firefox than Chromium. He was complaining about it being installed, not that it was chromium based or not. Taking out the bloatware was also him pointing out what they did right except they installed Chrome.
@@WolvenSpectre He said "Edge is better than Chrome" its not. Its just handing your data to 2 companies who will sell it instead of 1. Which is why I pointed it out.
@@TheWeaponshold They are both bad, but he is right, on the privacy front Edge is better than Chrome, not good. Trust me, we have had arguments about chrome based browsers.
A question on AntiVirus as you mentioned at the start. I'm not sure if you ever did a vid on this, but what are the best PC security/antivirus softwares to use?
From the BIOS, From the BIOS How do you know these little mini PCs don't have viruses or stuff they can't detect but has lots of weird stuff sending data out from the BIOS. What I read was that there are BIOS viruses that are what caused the problem and they are not even at the OS level so they aren't detected.
Well, honestly you're never safe. Even if you bar up your windows and doors a motivated person could just ram a car through your living room wall. At some point you need to rely on the common decency of people. Companies don't do stuff like including malware, adware, ransomware, or viruses because it hurts their reputation/sales. My gpd win max 2023 had a couple of hits when I first got it so I just did a fresh install of windows. I think Lenovo sold computers infected with superfish. Uefi and bios rooted viruses are a thing, but pretty rare. I don't think any manufacturer has shipped a computer with that preinstalled. You pretty much need someone that hates you, and has full access to your computer.
@@saysbadman I get all of what you are saying. We're all trying to minimize risk, you can't be perfectly safe. It's just like chemistry, you work with a ton of extremely dangerous substances and you can't be perfectly protected, you mitigate as much risk as possible. Yes, companies don't want to hurt their reputation but look at the Sacklers and oxycontin.... It's probably that they outsourced, some contractor took a shortcut and that's where the OS based viruses came from. However with the seeming explosion of all these cheap [foreign country made] mini PCs which are so cheap that they kinda made raspberry pi look less attractive I could see nation states installing something like "flame" but BIOS based. It's not even conspiracy that the CIA and NSA have always on 3G connections on all Intel chips - that's mainstream news. Snowden and Voorhees revealed even more. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about FOREIGN governments conducting a wide ranging campaign of BIOS level espionage and the mini PC market seems ideal for it, ESPECIALLY at the price point. It is mainstream realistic to think this is a thing. To wrap it up - I want to know what we as power users can do to search for that kind of thing and eliminate it from our devices. Someone must have developed some software that can detect for that. Peace
This is a great review and I wish I'd watched this before buying one. He is not kidding about how loud the fan is. It sounds like it's screaming and wailing.
Anti-aliasing is very demanding on the GPU and it has little visual impact,try manually turning it off after adjusting you settings I would also go into the bios and give more RAM to the GPU this should improve your framerates.
PLEASE, are these mini PC's capable of streaming 4K movies from them to the TV without any problems? From a Plex multimedia server and the movies copies onto the m.2 of the mini pc.
Can you please do a video on what VMs are useful for. I hear lots of talk about how awesome they are but I don't know what to use them for. I think that would get a lot of hits
i would look for something loose that's rattling when diagnosing the buzz. If the rubber grommets didn't dampen the noise then the wind from the fan is possibly making another small fastener wiggle.
Dude you married already, after all this years making pc reviews ? I still remember gtx 9600gt review so funny including the box, yes come with nice, shiny premium gpu box for free😅good old Logan tiger direct
0:55 - Hold on.. You scanned via the machine itself? With the original installation and everything? It's not like you can expect a shady company (if they are) to actually hide their shade stuff from being detectable within their own custom installation of Windows that is delivered on the machine. That would be unethical...
Glad u made a video, I was feeling really low. U make me happy, Logan. Stay safe and great review, honest review.
change the name of the channel to 'Mini PC' review.
Well mini PCs are popular right now thanks to 780m igpu, and with USB 4 you can plug in an external GPU. Mini PCs are super easy to transport too. Pick it up to take to a buddy's house, and plug it into their TV. I like them.
Personally I snagged a slim PC with a 10th Gen Intel, and use it for emulation, batocera. I am thinking about fencing it for a 12th Gen Intel because single thread uplift was significant compared to 10th Gen. 10100 vs 12100
The more we complain, the more these companies notice and send him their systems, and Logan loves it
Just a point of clarity. Edge is Chromium based as well as many other browsers. It might be better but not by a huge amount even if they say Chromium takes out the tracking. There is a specific "ungoogled" Chromium build out there that removes all the extra stuff Google still has in the Chromium code. Opera, Brave, Safari, Puffin, and a lot more are Chromium based browsers. Firefox is probably one of the main ways to go to avoid Google.
And Brave
Nah firefox has too many incompatibility issues and is slow compared to Chromium based browsers. Brave all the way
Just to point out that you are telling a tech channel about this and he is huge Firefox advocate and wishes that more browsers based their browsers off of Firefox than Chromium. He was complaining about it being installed, not that it was chromium based or not. Taking out the bloatware was also him pointing out what they did right except they installed Chrome.
@@WolvenSpectre He said "Edge is better than Chrome" its not. Its just handing your data to 2 companies who will sell it instead of 1. Which is why I pointed it out.
@@TheWeaponshold They are both bad, but he is right, on the privacy front Edge is better than Chrome, not good. Trust me, we have had arguments about chrome based browsers.
A question on AntiVirus as you mentioned at the start. I'm not sure if you ever did a vid on this, but what are the best PC security/antivirus softwares to use?
Prob malware bytes and it’s free
I wish mini pcs would focus more on cooling while providing power with control over fan curves and case flow, allow for air!
So is this a faster and better mini than the last killer mini the Geekom A7 you reviewed two weeks ago ?
Did you watch the whole video? I mention the A7. The performance is basically the same but the A7 is much quieter
From the BIOS, From the BIOS
How do you know these little mini PCs don't have viruses or stuff they can't detect but has lots of weird stuff sending data out from the BIOS.
What I read was that there are BIOS viruses that are what caused the problem and they are not even at the OS level so they aren't detected.
Well, honestly you're never safe. Even if you bar up your windows and doors a motivated person could just ram a car through your living room wall.
At some point you need to rely on the common decency of people. Companies don't do stuff like including malware, adware, ransomware, or viruses because it hurts their reputation/sales. My gpd win max 2023 had a couple of hits when I first got it so I just did a fresh install of windows. I think Lenovo sold computers infected with superfish. Uefi and bios rooted viruses are a thing, but pretty rare. I don't think any manufacturer has shipped a computer with that preinstalled. You pretty much need someone that hates you, and has full access to your computer.
@@saysbadman I get all of what you are saying. We're all trying to minimize risk, you can't be perfectly safe. It's just like chemistry, you work with a ton of extremely dangerous substances and you can't be perfectly protected, you mitigate as much risk as possible.
Yes, companies don't want to hurt their reputation but look at the Sacklers and oxycontin.... It's probably that they outsourced, some contractor took a shortcut and that's where the OS based viruses came from.
However with the seeming explosion of all these cheap [foreign country made] mini PCs which are so cheap that they kinda made raspberry pi look less attractive I could see nation states installing something like "flame" but BIOS based. It's not even conspiracy that the CIA and NSA have always on 3G connections on all Intel chips - that's mainstream news. Snowden and Voorhees revealed even more. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about FOREIGN governments conducting a wide ranging campaign of BIOS level espionage and the mini PC market seems ideal for it, ESPECIALLY at the price point. It is mainstream realistic to think this is a thing.
To wrap it up - I want to know what we as power users can do to search for that kind of thing and eliminate it from our devices. Someone must have developed some software that can detect for that.
Peace
Actually I just watched thiojoe's new video and this is the hot new virus attack vector. Hack the BIOS and the firmware is infected.
Great. Sigh...
This is a great review and I wish I'd watched this before buying one. He is not kidding about how loud the fan is. It sounds like it's screaming and wailing.
Anti-aliasing is very demanding on the GPU and it has little visual impact,try manually turning it off after adjusting you settings I would also go into the bios and give more RAM to the GPU this should improve your framerates.
PLEASE, are these mini PC's capable of streaming 4K movies from them to the TV without any problems?
From a Plex multimedia server and the movies copies onto the m.2 of the mini pc.
Can you please do a video on what VMs are useful for. I hear lots of talk about how awesome they are but I don't know what to use them for. I think that would get a lot of hits
Is this mini PC capable of editing videos using Adobe premiere ?
i would look for something loose that's rattling when diagnosing the buzz. If the rubber grommets didn't dampen the noise then the wind from the fan is possibly making another small fastener wiggle.
I just ordered a new fan lol
@@teksyndicate how were the results and what exact fan did you get?
How is it with hardware transcoding for a multimedia server?
prob too late now, but I'd just replace the fan with the biggest noctua fan that would fit. print or improvise a custom mounting mechanism.
Would you recommend this lil pc?
nice vid. Could you get 2 tiny Noctua fans?
Did you install the heat sink on m.2 ssd or originally installed?
They need to make an mini PC with a big fan like the Xbox series x. That may fix the fan noise or the buzzing.
Dude you married already, after all this years making pc reviews ? I still remember gtx 9600gt review so funny including the box, yes come with nice, shiny premium gpu box for free😅good old Logan tiger direct
Would a small PC like this work where you installed linux then attached an external GPU and ran it with a windows VM?
Do you have a favorite of these mini PCs?
Hi brother if I want a good productivity mini PC what do you recommend
😊 They should make this mini PCs with big Fans... Great video...
I was hoping this video would be a RANT 30 about the Yuzu thing, but at least you took a shot at them here :)
No way to add storage beyond the 1 single NVME slot? Pass... Beelink Ser7 is same price, better thermals, and room for storage expansion
0:55 - Hold on.. You scanned via the machine itself? With the original installation and everything? It's not like you can expect a shady company (if they are) to actually hide their shade stuff from being detectable within their own custom installation of Windows that is delivered on the machine. That would be unethical...
Could be the bearing.
My Question is will this be better than the Steam Deck OLED?
yes, it is better performance compared to the deck oled. it's equivalent or slightly better than rog ally/legion go with ryzen z1 extreme.
Those goofy ass rainbow lights just kill it for me and I refuse to use software in place of a physical switch!
Cheers 🍻
There's a button on the front to control the lights
@@teksyndicate:
Oh, nice!
Cheers 🍻
What? You wanna kill a good buzz?? 😁
top kek
to me those fans are terrible and should be replaced with a better fan since they really need to have good airflow.
Oh yes, of course, Winbloat and Edge don't send any data to Microsoft.
I said, "use Firefox."
MacGyver Circle
wassup!
cheap fan - that is all
Poor poor PC haha
Even without watching the video one catch is clear - the state of the design. It looks ridiculous and extremely cheap.