Susswassertang Facts- The Plant That Never Ages : "Sußwassertang" Perfect for Shrimp, & Fry Cover!
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This video is an overview of the history and scientific information that we have on the plant known as Susswassertang. It is an odd case of us Aquascrapers and hobbyist, massively popularizing a plant before the Scientific Community can decide what to label it as, or even a name for it.
Not only can't they decide which species it is, they couldn't decide if it was a liverwort, a moss, a fern or its own family of "freshwater seaweed" ( which is the plant's name in German). Spoiler alert it's technically an aquatic fern...and one Hell of am interesting one!
It's an ancient plant as old or older than the dinosaurs, and it will likely be here long after we humans are. In fact, it may not even age!
So if you'd like to know a little bit more about this plant and it's amazing properties, how it's being used as a biodegradable plastic, how easy it is to grow in your tank, and incredible facts such as self-replication and the plant survives while only consisting of one cell wall of thickness on each "leaf".
So take a moment to sit back and marvel at the beauty and protective fern in your tank, known as susswassertang! - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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correct translation from German to English is Freshwater Seaweed
thank you!
@@Fishtory I think the 'b' is a sharpish 's' sound too. It's almost percussively pronounced.
The literally translation is Sweet water tang. Süss is sweet
@@tauncfester3022 its not at all a "b" but an eszett which replaces the double ss sound in German :)
Thank you! I love that he tries to explain the German origin, but completely messes it up. I nearly had a coronary when he said the eszett makes the Z sound... dude, no. in German, the S makes the z sound and the eszett makes the hard hissing "S" sound. I shouldn't freak out over it but it is like nails on a chalkboard for me.
I love that plant. I had actually stuffed it in that back of a tank where it get almost no light and it still grows.
Thank you! Great video! Markus is right it does translate to Freshwater Seaweed (or kelp). "Suss" actually means sweet. In german when you say "sweet water" it means that the water is unsalted or "fresh water" in English. Kind of like we have salted butter and we call unsalted butter "sweet" butter. It isn't actually sweet it is just not salted. The word "wasser" means water and "tang" is seaweed or kelp. I don't know why they still use the Eszett-I mean I know it tells you which sound to make but it just seems outdated and creates confusion for people trying to learn German! Ok-now I'm going to "sew" my Susswassertang into long kelp ropes!! Thanks for the great idea!!
thanks for the awesome language info! When you Google it in English it must not know what you mean, and guess an approximation of 2 words...thanks a lot Google pssh. Haha. Glad you watched and more glad you sorted the naming out for me. Thanks ...
PS ... Auwfuchs... how does that break down in your estimation... I've read 3 or 4 versions now
Alex, don't ever change. These educational videos are Diamonds in the internet rough.
Thanks. So glad you enjoy them
Great video. Extremely informative and entertaining. We need more information like this in the hobby. Thanks for sharing and keep doing what you do if it works for you.
You take us through a deep journey of information. It’s not easy to talk 15 min about just this moss. Great job.
Lol I guess I'm that much of a nerd haha. I'm glad you seem to be as well!
@@Fishtory absolutely 😉
It's now classified as a fern.
This is the best video I have watched . Thanks for the hard work I definitely appreciate it New to your channel. I wish I have seen your channel long time ago...
+Bradley Vaughn, when you say that, it means the world to me. You made my month! Im just passing on what im passionate about and trying to learn the new and quirky connections that occur when natural history and human history intersect.
Every view, subscriber and like, means a lot to me.
Im learning how to work TH-cam as I go, but the channel is only 2 months old, and im trying to build a community as well. Also i want to keep this channel ad free unless it's for relevant products and responsible/quality companies. But until I get to 1000 followers I can't control that too much with TH-cam's new policies. In the end my patreon page is how I hope to fund the hours of research and care of my animals. My first purchase with 30 dollars on patreon was a tripod haha. So if I earn it, in the future, I value a dollar or two patreon supporters immensely as well. I make my living jumping from art gig to graphic design gig and the last 2 months it's been slow, so i decided to put my heart into pumping out content. So again, Thank you, im never hoping to get rich or live off anything like this, but sustaining my animals and actually engaging with people and entertaining them while sharing my learning process is the goal
I love love love this video! I always wish people would nerd out and just tell me EVERYTHING about - stuff hahaha I can see this becoming one of my new favourite channels 🙂💓
Thank you so much! Enjoy and welcome to the channel!
thank you. this has been most informative and helpful.
just want to say, this was the most informative aquascaping/plant related video I've seen in some time. nicely done!
Thank You, I try and do an in-depth video every week once or twice, other videos are more of updates on projects and breeding stuff, or rescaping. I'm glad you enjoyed it and found the channel. Take care
Wonderful content. Thoughtful and clearly well researched. I enjoy the approach you have taken and found it informative, interesting, and humorous in the right measure. Subscribed.
Thank you very kindly, my friend! I hope to create such videos whenever I have the time to, and with 375 videos in my channel's library- I hope you find more to enjoy in the mean time. Thank you again for watching and for subscribing!
Googled what to do with susswassertang and saw an Alex video among them all and immediately clicked! Great topic and all the answers to comment questions answered all the ones I came up with. Thanks!! Was just gifted a huge ball of this that is so incredibly healthy and vibrant green and LARGE. I have a bunch in a nano vase with crypts and scuds for 2 years - much thinner and dull dark green in comparison but still doing great. Will be trying the needle and thread to wrap on some old wood to see how that goes.
Oh right on! Thanks for stopping by. PS - now they know it is a juvenile fern (DNA)...But it never matures, in a process called "Species Specific Paedomorphia". (In the original version I say that it could be a bladderwart , fern or pelia) ..just updating folks haha
@@Fishtory Thanks for update:)
This is your first vid of yours I've watched and am so impressed, thank you so much for putting in all the research
thank you kindly, i think you'll enjoy many others as well b also, then! cheers , welcome ....and take care
Awesome video keep them coming..
wow I picked some of this up at my local fish store because it looked cool... little did I know it's both good for shrimp AND has a super interesting history!
Haha glad you liked the story! On the channel I'm always looking for some interesting history behind things we take for granted ...even if taking for granted means we think its a beautiful and awesome plant .... there's always more hidden. Hehe
Thanks, I think that's the information I needed
4 years later. It's become my favorite. Thanks for It's history. I am looking to make a vertical wall by letting bits get tangled in a piece of mesh. It's very versatile. Like you suggested
That sounds amazing!
This was so interesting, thank you! I always assuned it was called SUBWASSERTANG meaning underwater, but I understand now. I finally found a pot for sale in the UK labelled Pelia Moss. When I took it out, it was mostly little crumbs which barley made a clump. I've put it on the bottom like a tumbleweed and really hope it grows!
Oh good. And that logic about the name, totally makes sense haha
I have this growing both completely submerged in the aquarium, but also have it growing outside the water on Ivy artificial Rockwall. That only receives water for 15 minutes, every one hour and 15 minutes and it has evolved into morbid, dense, dark, green, rich, living wall
Super cool!
Thanks for the upload
Great video man! I hope you are getting healthier everyday!
Your videos are packed full of information! Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful enthusiasm and knowledge!
I have Sübwasswertang in my four aquariums. I've even had it in with my large Cichlids - it's thriving and is so versatile and Beautiful! 🌿
You are so welcome! I love that little fern gamaphite haha
I got some today! Love these videos Alex! Thank you - Little Bobby
Oh score! I appreciate your comments and support brother. Rock on!
@@Fishtory HECK YEAH!
Wow! Mine is taking over my 4 ft tank. My bristlenose use it to landscape their hides.
Fun video, interesting top, thanks for sharing.
Glad you liked it!
Bro these videos are made for Me! I love learning. This is almost like a course.😂
You have no idea how happy this comment makes me! Thanks for tuning in and dropping a line!
Wow! How fascinating. I am in the UK but I will try to track some down for my shrimp tank.
I just ordered some. I hope it arrives alive. Thanks for the great info on this plant. I love the way it appears. It almost looks like my windelov java fern. My aquarium is nearly full of that plant and the crypt growing like a weed. I'll let you know how the Susswassertang does for me.
So glad someone knows how to pronounce it correctly. Suss is sweet or fresh, wasser is water and tang is kelp or seaweed. Soohs+wassir+tahng (not tang)
Clearly it annoyed me enough to make a video... so thank you for fighting the good fight lol
@@Fishtory you are a good man !!
I bought some a few months back from my LFS. It was packaged by tropica and labelled monoselenium. I love it!
ok so second video where you pronounce everything correctly, and in general show people that you are an intelligent guy. subscribed :))))
Why thank you
Fascinating! Now I really have to get it from a better source
Wow I had no idea there was so much to this plant. I plan on using it in each of my shrimp tanks.
I finally managed to get my hands on some, and am looking up vids to learn about it.
Other channels: "it's actually a fern. I don't know why. Weird, huh?"
Alex: Answers all the little questions and points of curiosity that arise in the viewer's mind as they come up. Plus some extras!
I had actually wondered while looking at my new plant if it was vascular. Turns out, yes!
Thanks much.
Love it
I got some locally and my loach plays in it!
I found some of this bought with my shrimp. Hopefully I can propagate. Your knowledge on this plant is excellent by the way.
thank you kindly and i wish you the best of luck!
That stuff always reminds me of macro algae from way back in my salt water days
100%
This is definitely my favorite channel. Under what conditions does suBwassertang grow quickly?
It likes to stay still, sometimes this is easier said than done shrimp are great to keep it clean and it will thrive with no extra care, looks after itself it may take longer to take off if it’s disturbed a lot but it will find its way eventually.
Alot of information and somehow not boring at the same time.
Well im glad... you must be a certified nerd! Welcome to the club, my intelligent friend.
Heyah Alex, cheers for yet another very informative on a cool plant species 🌱🤘
I'm from Germany and I have to say, it's kind of cute, how you pronounce it. You sound like a Bavarian with a hot potato in your mouth. ;-) I really had to laugh, so thanks for that! :D
Besides, you brought up some really good and new information about this plant, I have it in my tanks as well and everyone loves it, the shrimp, the fish and especially my loaches. But I find it kind of annoying how it spreads over the whole tank. It's really everywhere and growing way to fast, even without CO2.
Thanks for the always interesting videos!
I've been told my German always sounds Bavarian haha. You're about the 15th person to mention that. It must be very stereotypical Bavarian eh? Did it even sound "Deútsch" at all? I have a friend whom was born in Munich and moved here for university, and she was the one who told me how to say it, about an hour before I recorded the video.
@@Fishtory Well, you really tried hard, but to be honest, it didn't sound very much like German. But I can imagine how hard it must be for a native English speaker. ;)
Yeah. You’re a great channel.
thanks mate!
Good to know! I love the look of it. 🤔
You and me both!
Thank you for spelling the name (German) correctly using an Eszett: ß. So many think it's a "B".
Haha of course. Danke fürs zuschauen!
Hes the master of shrimp..... with some creative DIY ideas....
Husband was originally from San Fran and we always visit Ocean Aquarium when we go there, several times a year. If you ever get a chance, go. It's amazing. They have Sußwassertang that they will sell you clumps from -the original plant is probably decades old. I am glad they finally designated it. The lady there calls it Pellia.
totally! awesome store, with those deep sand bed substrates and the Waldron type methods used. There are 32 types of recognized and named pelia, often times this is called round submerged pelia gamophite.
Thanks for sharing the name for this. I have a few tanks with it. Shrimp breed in it easily.
when I found it between my Java moss I thought it was a mutation or adaption of a light starved Riccia fluitans. I am keeping it in a plastic bottle in the window hoping that it will regenerate into the classic version.thanks to your info I know better now.
Thank you for your great videos! I bought from an online marketplace but I think I got monosolenium tenerum instead. I think subwassertang is lomariopsis lineata? Do you know a good place where I can buy real subwassertang?
Aquaticarts.com usually has some and I have a 15% Discount code of "FISHTORY15" if you would like. ...
Worse comes to worse I could sell you whatever you want..5 for bunch the size of a golf ball when compacted
You must be a school teacher if not you should be 😆 great vid
Great video as usual Alex but im still not sure if what i have Sußwassertang or Pelia moss which looks similar. Any ideas on how to tell them apart?
If you put it in a dish of water, in the sunlight (half In the air and half in a tiny bit of water) it should change over a month or two and then you can compare the mature form...moss will look like a moss lol ferns will grow spores and dots all over and more slender leaves
It seems like it has little roots/hairs that may or may not adhere to rocks and wood. It came in a clump, but easily comes apart with each little 3 lobed "finger" as its own freely floating plant. I got some from Priscilla MK, and I love it. It is amazing and i will be studying it for a very long time. Susswassertang!. *Alex, at 14:50, the grey rock with the odd pitting- us that a fossil with some shells embedded?
Yes. It's a silicate a quartz siltstone from the chuckanut range in WA
My friend who swears by this sent mea couple of small clumps. It's settled itself into the back corner of my 5g on top of some Christmas moss attatched to rocks. I'm really excited to see what it's going to do over the next few months.
Thanks for the information on it.
👍💓👍
100% :)
hehe süsswassertang i like how u pronounce that :).... greetings from bavaria, germany
+SinusCraig haha
I’ve just lost most of mine after medicating for ich. It went brown and thin and just really melted like jelly! A pain in the neck to try & get it out as it just disintegrates. I do love it so will get some more growing from the little pieces I have left in another tank 🙁❤️🇦🇺
Sorry to hear that! Yeah, even a tiny piece should regrow well
HI am new to your channel. I like your video. quite informative. I noticed that you have a house plant by/in your tank? It that a spider plant? or wandering jew? And what is the benefits to my tank world with this plant? Thank you, Angie
welcome and thanks for being active in seeking knowledge... yes, it is a wandering jew heh.. (I'm Jewish so it amused me) ... I've gotten them to grow in the hang off the backs...they simply remove nitrates and ammonia, but are not aquatic plants so I just do it to give them a nutrient boost and level off my tanks parameters. almost any plants that have running roots will do this just fine...just be aware that they can grow into sponges and filters over time and clog thrm in like 6 months
Wow, I'm two years late to this video but very helpful. Is there an update?
No update but lots of similar new videos are hiding on my channel :)
I bought some from Lucas Bretz because of your video about the plant. For me the German name is a bonus. German is my second language...
Love your site. Found you with your shrimp vids. Subwassertang is catching on. Prices are way up there.
they're about 10 dollars for a handful in Seattle...but it grows slowly, so I understand the pricing. I recommend tearing up the whole portion and sprinkling small clumps in several tank, some tied to sticks or stones, some in the corner, or tucked under plants, and within 3 or 4 months you'll have about 3 or 4 times as much usually
@@Fishtory 😂 Ha! I'm in NY. How about $20 here + tax & shipping if needed and IF you can find it.
whoa! I should start shipping mine to NY!
PS there is a wild form that grows in the northeast and NY in clear mountain streams and ponds/ lakes that arent too muddy
@@Fishtory hmm... I'm in Orange County, I'll keep an eye out this summer.
So I have acquired from a shrimp breeder here in Oregon, a weird Riccia. It's almost golden green colored, very prolific, it's trying to take over my semi tropical outdoor trough tank.
I need this.
So one of my nano (and I mean NANO) tanks dried out (I'm gonna put a lid on its next iteration) and I am trying to wash it now and I'm getting the feeling that this dried out susswassertang will come back to life 😳
Often time it will revive
I just got a small handful from one of the petco staff and a Pygmy Cory looking forward to growing it out in my shrimp tank
Right on! Its slow when you conciously want it to grow...and check on it daily...but magically, one day, the whole tank is full of it lol
New sub. Great info. Where do you get your susswassertang from?
Mine is from a local store that doesnt ship, however I've also ordered from aquaticarts.com (I have a channel code for 15% of SECRETSHRIMP15 if you want to use them ever). Also I've used h2oplants.com ... there are strains from everywhere and mostly they're the same except for hard, or micro pelia's They can live in northern Germany all the way to Thailand, but they look the same without a microscope.
PS thanks for the sub, If you like this video you'll love all the history stuff on my channel. Cheers!
found some in a small mom and pop store, the clerks had no idea what it was and even when i told them they did not seen interested.
Sußwassertang - pronounced Soos Vasser Tang. Translated from German to English: sweet water seaweed. the funny looking B is a double S "SS" in German. the U in SuB has an umlout which gives the U a OO sound. W has a V sound. Is it known where it derives from? Java fern makes spores and clones of itself. Double SS not a Z, as a Z in German is pronounces TZ like blitz, not the English Z as in Zebra
The more light,the faster it grows. I just tied it to wood and so far so good. Hasnt broken off.
Hi there, thanks for sharing. What is the best water and light parameters to cultivate suvwassertang that u can recommend ?
Neutral to slightly acidic. Low to medium hardness and co2 + high light + lots of trimming it, so it branches and gets tighter bound little chunks. Some people actually get it to graft onto surfaces and grow like moss.... then use co2 and high light to made it as dense as a bush of water sprite, or Riccia fluitans
The Secret History Living in Your Aquarium appreciate this valuable info
Can this be grown in an immersed setup or does it have to be in water?
100% it looks like a crinkled seaweed clump emersered. It needs humidity though too
so im confused. one minute ur talking about pH saying that it can handle 7 or 8 pH then u follow up with "thats like brackish". doesnt brackish have to do with salinity? at least thats what i was told. and if i remember correctly salinity can affect the pH but not pH affecting salinity.
yes Brackish is about salinity. Salinity will increase tds and generaly also increase ph. And you are correct that ph change wont change salinity (you could be dumping battery acid in some ocean water and the ph would go nuts but salinity could remain near the same (minus some ionic bonds, I believe)
The little "flowering" bodies on most Mosses are called Sporocarps. We have here in Southern Oregon, a wetlands splash zone plant that looks like a fern, but puts out sporocarps, so I'm assuming it's a Moss.
If only this wasn't so hard to source regionally, would love to make walls with these!
Where are you at? Its a little tricky to shape but when done in high co2 it's a neat effect
Ugh I really wanted to watch this but motion sickness from the camera wobbling around just nixed it.
Sorry...yeah my early videos were awwwful. I should just make then audio lol
Seaweed is Seetang in German so it makes sense to call something which looks like seaweed but goes in freshwater (Süßwasser literally sweet water) Süßwassertang.
I got mine but came fully brown what are the chances itll grow back
It probabaly got too hot or cold...or a chemical...if it's temperature, id leave it in a area that's low light and just leave it for 1 to 2 months and check on it then...tuck it under a rock slightly or in a corner and just let nature try and repair the damage....im guessing the brown will turn to green in some areas then the brown will melt away into mush while the green starts several new clumps
Just finding this channel in 2021
Better now than never! Make yourself at home here!
I have read that it can filter ciano bacteria toxins. Do you have any updates about this plant?
Well it was confirmed dna to be a fern ... gamophyte but other than that and it not having a gene to age it's tissues they're still studying it
I had a debate with one of the employees in my lfs about how to say Susswassertang...I still haven't been able to convince her lol.
Tell her to Google it then lol
@@Fishtory lol I did! Sometimes you just can't win...
Do you know how Susswassertang compares to mosses, in terms of ability to remove harmful things from the water? Which one is better at that task?
Probably moss, just because it grows much faster
Does it provide benefits to the water such as reducing nitrates or not really?
Yes, it promotes the micro biome as well. Lots of tiny critters live on, and around it.
what is the name of those tall background plants in the back left corner of your tank?
The corkscrew metallic valisanaria?
Or bacopa? Or aponogeton species?
@@Fishtory the ones that look kinda like cacomba or hornwort
Oh it IS cabomba furcata variety rather than the native USA varieties
@@Fishtory Thanks!
I’ve been looking at pictures of it, and it’s really hard to find any that doesn’t have Java moss in it already. I was kind of hoping to avoid Java moss in my next tank.
yeah java moss gets everywhere since it uses spores and a single cell can turn into a clump...I've totally drained a tank, changed the substrate and put no mosses in it, and 5 months later the rocks and sticks have moss growing.
@@Fishtory the sad thing is that, i find trouble growing it in my area.
@@ctnzrh92 oh bummer
@@Fishtory oh well, at least, subwassertang growth is good here.
Do you have soil fertilizer in your tank?
Not in this one, no
Do you just put the plant in?
let just call this the immortal jelly fish plant XD
To me this is sea weed but I see it sold as a moss (unless I'm confusing it with pelia). Interesting to find out it's actually a fern! I have a bunch of tiny pieces of if in a glass vase with some filter balls. Trying to add it on top of ceramic hidey tubes for shrimp and now I know I can add it to a brackish tank too 😊😊😊
Hehe freshwater seaweed is a way better name anyhow
lol I call it subwassertang, I like that name it sounds like a German submarine :D
hahah or a south Afrikaans boy band
@@Fishtory I can see it! Im from South Africa and this sounds so much like a VERY Afrikaaner band
This one is popping up in two of my tanks. I have no idea where it came from.
check out Marks shrimp tanks. he uses this "plant" in all of his shrimp tanks. he also uses nylon rope n thred to hang it vertically across the back of his tanks as a sort of wall. It grows so cool n looks great. he winds thred around it loosely on the the nylon rope n puts a weight at the bottom of the rope to hold it vertical n hangs it from a spray bar... really awsome!! worth checking out. At least its not floating around loose in the tank....
mark is so creative....awesome dude
So what keeps it from being considered a type of algae, like moss balls that also take on a form?
the way the cell wall is structured basically...it's pretty nit-picky honestly
Thanks for the video but all the moving around of the camera makes the me dizzy! Still camera is always ideal.
Yes. Sorry the gimbal was broken and I had to get a new one... but I appologies for the filming
A month plus later,and I haven't seen a root on the thing or anything that attaches...it will just mound over what you tie it down to. It is delicate and mine has lost some ground due to scavenger fish breaking pieces off. I have a high activity tank..fish are always on the go,filters are strong,and subwassertang likes calm and I think beginners might have trouble with it. Its better with an old bright tank with nano fish. And tie it down with more then just a ring of mono..go over and over it.
yeah. Ive always just shoved it in dark corners and let it grow as a fry and shrimp habitat because of all that
Where do we go to purchase from your tanks brother?
Email me, but watch a new video for accurate info on what i have
Where is your email located? And when you say new video you just mean more recent to see your tanks? Or a certain video in a playlist where you list out things?
good informative video, but please stop moving the camera so much...makes one dizzy.
I bought I gimble after this video (3.5 years ago) 😀
Mine has roots that developed over time.
Hmmm now in very curious. Can you take a photo?
I can but there’s no option to post it here. They are thin roots so it can attach itself to items in the tank.
Buy a tripod man, your clip is so good but it keeps shaking.
Does it grow out of water like a moss?
If it is very humid, yes
@@Fishtory I just wanted to check because I do believe that it started to spread in my garden from my tank. I couldn't find any info online about it growing above water and it is almost impossible to find moss in Egypt. So I was surprised when I saw some growing right beneath my feet. Thank you for always answering 🙏
I just bought some from Petsmart labeled as "assorted moss plant"
Haha gotta love big box store labeling ... all rainbowfish are "Australian rainbowfish" ...some are actually expensive species too
How fast does it grow?
Mine fills my 4ft tank 2-4 inches deep every few months :-)
@@taleandclawrock2606 Wow!
I always thought it was macro algae. It looks just like salt water macro algae.
Yeah it does
I had no luck with subwassertang!€
Maybe your water is too hard?
No, I have soft water. It just floats around in separate strands and then dies! Help! I would love to make it work.