What Toyota Just Announced Left The Entire Truck Market In Shock!
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Toyota is struggling to sell their new 2024 model trucks and in todays video... I want to show you exactly why this is happening. For the past several decades Toyota trucks have been the most affordable, reliable and easy to work on trucks that money could buy... But lately Toyota has been missing the mark when it comes to their build quality and reliability. As a huge huge Toyota fan and a previous owner of of the original V8 Tundra, an FJ Cruiser and a few 80 Series Land Cruisers... I was really excited to see what Toyota would do with their new hybrid engines and specifically the updated Tacoma... And unfortunately it has been a huge disaster so far. Now not everything with this new truck is terrible... there are a lot of good things to talk about as well.
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Don't forget, Toyota is also super woke and rainbow....... shameful. Check out Robbie Starbuck's coverage of this story this past week.
@@g_unit6773that’s what I thought the HUGE mistake in the title was about.
$50k+ is a lot of money for a 4 cylinder vehicle.
Particularly one that's so oversized and underwhelming. The 4th gen Tacoma grew in size yet the cabin space is worse, ground clearance is worse, the bed design sucks, and it's been plagued with transmission failures, overheating issues, suspension failures, howling differentials, engine failures, electrical issues, etc. Pay more get way less.
@@hochhaul seems like the norm these days. Pay more and get less.
Especially an unreliable one.
it is crazy money for a 4-cylinder
Too much for Any vehicle
I would rather give up a little power and gas mileage for reliability, they should have left the motors alone and just updated the chassis and interior.
Most of these problems can be traced to the EPA
I bought a used 2021 Tacoma almost a year ago. My first Toyota. It had 37k miles on it. SO GLAD I went used instead of listening to the salesman and waiting on a 2024 or trying to go with a new Tundra. I’m loving my V6 Tacoma so far.
They could have improved efficiency and gas mileage and kept the reliability. The 3.5 and 4.0 were 15 year old motors. They just decided not to. Turbos can be reliable its the build quality that is disappointing. Could have hybridized the existing motors and tuned them down or went 2.5 electric. Put a heavier transmission. BUMP STOPS.
The reason they changed the engine was not because it was old but because of stricter emission regulations. A 2021 V8 Tundra produces 601 grams of greenhouse gas emissions per mile, and a 2024 Tundra produces 459 grams per mile. I agree they should have kept the old V6 and V8 because they were tough but I mean they had a reason they had to change. I’d bet if it weren’t for the changing laws they would still use the old engines
@@MrTheKing it’s really unfortunate they are kind of forced to make the change. Less reliable vehicles are likely less environmentally friendly so it worth the slight increase in fuel efficiency? Personally I don’t think so because in the end the consumer gets screwed over by having to eat up costs of repairs or having to buy another vehicle.
I bought a brand new 2022 Nissan Frontier SV back in late 2021 and have had 0 (that’s ZERO) problems with it. 3.8 V6, 9spd auto, crew cab. Love the thing.
RIP Toyota Reliability.
1937-2022
I'm a nissan titan and frontier guy..best truck I ever owned pro4x titan..
It what happens between the dash that mattered.
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Rip to their minds. They are totally fine with grooming 🌈
1037-2021. Fixed it.
It’s BS to say oh Toyota will just give you a new engine. It’s not that simple, it’s your time and money being wasted. Your truck will never run the same after major repairs. You’re still making excuses for Toyota.
It's worse than that
Only 2022 are getting new engines too. 23' 24' are not covered yet
@@TwinTurboToyota the more modern a vehicle is,,the less it runs and performs as well with a warrantee change out,,vehicles are so overly complicated anymore,it's like trying to put a shattered glass back together
Also, as an asset, I feel your vehicle is not worth what it was. No matter how good, a “new engine replacement” is kinda sus to a used buyer
@TwinTurboToyota Not original, likely not completely down properly and it is not a complete crate engine with turbos. No thanks Ford is the best trucks maker in the world. Don't bother arguing it's the truth.
They can rust on the lots like the rest of the junk being made today.
1. They dropped the V6 for basically 1mpg better.
2. They added an 8 speed auto for 1 mpg better.
3. They made the gas tank 3 gallons smaller so the range is still the same, negates any improvement because you still have to stop just as often.
4. Force you to spend 4-8k for a trailer brake controller, which adds so any options it kills payload.
I was excited for this truck and getting back into a manual Tacoma. But for that price Im not going to get rid of my 2500 chevy which I picked up for 45k. Can actually fit in the cab and actually tow.
What Toyota gained (possibly) is a new vehicle sale every 5-6years instead of the usual vehicle lifetime of 15-20 years. They are after all over 200+ billion in debt. Vanguard/Blackrock are also offering them attractive rates provided they (Toyota) go along with the whole DEI woke agenda, …which Toyota is as they are and have been sponsoring “family friendly “ drag shows etc.
Shame that.
My 06 SR5 4.7 Tundra with 197k miles runs perfect. I would never buy a new Toyota truck.
The 4.7 in my 04 GX470 at 410k, same detail.
@@Beauloqs How many timing belt changes and are you on your original trans?
Why would you pay 53k for a Tacoma when you can get a Ranger Raptor for 55k 🤷🏻♂️
True. The Ranger Raptor is crazy.
Normally one would say long-term reliability, but that doesn't seem to be the case this model year. It's a lot of money to pay to be a beta tester.
resale value it way better on a toyota...
But I never recommend buying for the resale value.
Starting at 55k
Why pay 55K for a midsized truck at all? 🤔
Nissan Frontier Pro 4X I’m gonna buy one give them a chance
Im owning a 2024 grand highlander and after a year u have to pay for subscription just to be able to use navigation!! So disappointed!!! Greedy Toyota
Google maps is free😂
@@wg4154heck yea! I have been wondering why in the world navigation in any vehicle is still a selling point. My phone works just fine in all my older vehicles! 😂
Dont pay, its not worth it. Screw them. Im a Toyota fan as well, but my next car will be a mazda cx90. More options for less money. Toyota got really greedy.
Never felt my 4.0 V6 and 4.7 V8 were underpowered, they're definitely not a hotrod, but I'll reliability over power any day !
Yeah, anyone who says the 5.7 lacked lower end power is smoking crack. The only "issue" with the truck is the pedal tuning which was tuned back on the 2014+ models to use less gas when you press the pedal. Easily solved with something like the Banks Pedal Monster.
“A lot better gas mileage”? Are you serious? If you consider 4 more MPG a LOT……. That economy is NOT worth the switch to a small displacement, less reliable engine… IMHO.
IKR the OR is only 1 mpg better than the 3rd Gen.
4 MPG out of 17 MPG is over 23% improvement, that's a lot yes
If you have a place to charge at home, EVs are the solution to gas mileage cost issues. Far less expensive than gas. And no need to go to gas stations anymore.
I do not yet recommend EVs for trips or as rental cars.
Hooray. Comfortable seats for when you are waiting for the tow truck. GIve me a break. There are no advantages when a vehicle is unreliable and does not run.
Worked for Cadillac
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Toyota has disappointed many, many customers. Turbo engines are not good in the long term. Therefore, I will not be buying any new Toyotas. I don't want to be overly critical, but the speaker is far too much much of a Toyota fan. Toyota screwed up big time. There is no positive spin that can change this fact.
Did Toyota hire some woke Gen Zers recently or something?
“Toyota Thinks Its Upcoming Turbo Four Could Outshine The Legendary 2JZ” 😂
They have gone woke actually, company policy.
If one spends $40-65K and the engine failes within 75K YOU JUST GOT RIPPE OFF!
Nissan Frontier over the new Tacoma any day. Keep that overpriced turbo garbage.
Direct injection with no port injection on that Frontier. You better add an oil catch can to it, and hope the intake valves don't get all carboned up.
I call B.S. I have always owned Tundras back since 2005 my current Tundra 2015 I bought new and I'm sitting just over 400,000 Miiles on it...zero issues. I get 19.2 miles per gallon on the highway 16.9 in the city......... Of course the new Tundras have low end torque why because of the turbo any forced air injection engine is going to give you lower end torque however again with any Force injection engine it will not last like a naturally aspirated will you can talk about all the pretty things that Toyota has done to the tundra and Tacoma but if the tranny don't work and the engine don't go it's just a paperweight
I have two second gen tundras in my driveway. There's not a chance in f****** hell that you were getting 16 in the city or 19 on the highway for that matter. My combined is about 12 and I've yet to see more than 16 on the highway. City is closer to 10. The trucks are awesome but how they get worse gas mileage than my 1997 GMC Sierra k2500 with the 5.7 L vortec is still a mystery to me. Although that truck did blow up at 110k miles ....
I have a 5.7 tundra with over 200k milea. While the engine is bulletproof and i love the truck, you do not get 16.9 miles city and 19.2 highway. Unless you only drive downhill!!
I have a 2007,5.7L Tundra 8ft box 4 door SR5,best mileage is about 13mpg,12.6 pulling a 16.5 Alumacraft boat.
All this shit your talking about is great but you can’t drive it, it’s junk and it’s forced feed little 4 cylinder with a turbo that won’t last 150K not good !
I’ve owned 4 Toyotas, one a pickup. Sluggish, boring but reliable-until recently obviously.
Just bought a Frontier Pro4X. Rides nice, feels planted at high speed and cornering, lots of torque (naturally aspirated V6), Bilstein shocks, Dana transfers, locking diff, 4 wheel disc brakes, etc.
The negatives: I’m spoiled with my Tahoe that has more comfy seats, a better turning radius, and can tow more.
If a person driving a new Tacoma and the transmission fails in traffic. That driver will get rear ended.
As a Toyota employee I am embarrassed that this is the product we are delivering to our customers. As an employee I have no control of what we build, but this is embarrassing to say the.
It’s not your fault man those damn ceos have lost it why have they made such drastic changes any ideas?
I'm a nissan titan guy and frontier...best truck I've ever owned titan pro4x..old man talking..
Good to hear old man...I just purchased a Nissan Titan
People crying about these new tiny engines… blame your government. Car manufacturers are complying with government CAFE regulations.
No sir..they are giving big backs for smaller engines..corporate GREED
Isn't the new replacement engine the same as the original broken engine?
No!
They took the metal shavings out of the replacement engines.
Haha.. thought the same!
Maybe they should focus on the quality of their cars/trucks and less on gay pride parades.
Between EPA and Everything Gay the company is dying in North America
Agreed. Leave that for Subaru
YES!!!
Not to mention the work shifting to Mexico.
What? ….That was stupid…
So I still don't know how the Toyota CEO just screwed truck buyers.
Because only a fool would buy a Toyota pickup now.
Here I am sipping coffee on my 06 Toyota Tacoma v6 4.0 4x4 with 324k miles. Sounds like Toyota is following every other brands steps. Shitty quality and high prices 😢
I just bought a 2006 tacoma from its second owner. Never had a Toyota truck before. Hoping I got a good truck.
@@territuttle-flynn1585 you won’t be disappointed. Just keep up with maintenance 😌
Another woke pos company
I dont think they are woke. I think they got stupid and started following woke American cafe standards for cars. This is what has to end.
As long as you don’t drive , it’s a great truck !!
🤣 you ain’t lying!
They need to go back to that v8 and v6
Or at least provide them as an option for the next few years.
They won't because of GVT emissions... sadly.
For 2025 you can get a Nissan Pro4X with a 6 ft bed. That might be my next truck
2024 is Titans last year so you must be talking about the frontier
The new Toyota models just look funky and a mish mash of design elements that just don't make a truck look like a truck. They have veered too far away from the low cost, well built, reliable vehicle into a space that seems poorly defined and having diminished value.
There is nothing good about the new taco it’s not a tested before released to the consumer, they screwed them selves for aleast 10 yrs it will take that long to win back their customers!!
Toyota went woke,now they make junk.
I wouldn't give plug nickel for a hybrid or ev. Just like the others, Toyota is increasing the price and decreasing the quality.
Can somebody tell me why anyone would even consider spending 50,000 plus on a new Tacoma when you can get a low mileage 2021 Tundra in a top trim package such as 1794, platinum or even TRD pro, for the exact same money? Literally a bulletproof V8 powered half ton instead of these overcomplicated forced induction quarter tons with all these problems? Or if you really do want a quarter ton then get the old Tacoma like you said? It's mind-boggling. I can't wrap my head around it. There's literally no compelling reason to buy one of these at all
what good is better gas mileage when you lose all those saving and MORE when you have to repair the turbo motor. its false economy
Toyota screwed themselves by doing away with the V6. They lost my purchase. Getting a new Frontier instead.
Better gas mileage?
Don’t be a sucker.
That’s only true if you drive like grandma.
GM of Japan. That sucks we all will be walking soon .😮
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GO WOKE GO BROKE.
Shhh, dont give out any inside stock trading information😂😂😂😂
Agreed, the enlightenment period which gave us equality and the end of feudalism should be rejected. All U.S. federal agencies should be closed. Further, immediate implementation of the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 (900 page directive to guide our lives) should be enforced. It should then be ordered by the executive branch as outlined within a new Constitution and unitary presidency that all races other than those of white European descent should be removed to their original country of origin after a DNA test. Then citizens will be NOT "WOKE", and return to the 1950's TV days of Lassie, Mayberry RFD, and Leave it to Beaver.
I could have got the 24 Tacoma when I traded my 17 limited in. Instead I got a 23 off road. No way I’ll trust a turbo anything for reliability. Plus my truck was loaded for 44k. I’d be in the mid or upper 50’s for the 24.
sticking with my V6. Shame the Tacoma lost the suicide rear door on the access cab. I want a TRD Pro 6ft bed, access cab NOT 4 DOOR and not at 50k .... I'm not spending more than 45k for a fucking Tacoma.
How about a 1.0 liter Twin turbo 3 cyl. with an oil drenched timing belt? ... Go Toyota go ... Get real high MPG.
LOL
At that point just put the 250cc engine from the 1st gen ninja 250 and add a small turbo. I got 60mpg on my bike so probably 55 mpg in a Toyota.
Toyota JP needs to clean house with everyone at ToyotaUSA. What an embarrassment that once utilitarian, reliable, rugged and overbuilt truck has become. Even with regs the feds have been enforcing, they could’ve continued making a barebones manual, 4x4, N/A 4 cyl truck. Factory rear locker and skids option, and as far as “creature comforts” goes, bluetooth and that’s it.
That screen looks out of place.If the engine or tranny has problems who cares about what the inside looks like.The outside is still horrible looking.
The styling is awful and it's ballooned in size. Worse ground clearance and interior space too. The exact same problems that affected the new Tundra based on the same platform.
Toyota should bring the Hilux Champ.
1000kg load, very basic and plastic single cab barebone work truck, no fancy electronics, basic and reliable.
A 2.0 or 2.7 gas engine, a 2.4 diesel, manual or automatic.
Thailand price 13000 dollar
U.K price 14000 pounds
With bigger wheels and a liftkit you,re paying around or under 20000 dollar.
They will crush the work truck market.
Take the 2.4 diesel engine and you have the most reliable work truck, like the Toyota Landcruiser 70 series.
Other brands should follow Toyota then, because the bedload is 1000KG.
More than Ford F 150, Ram 1500 Chevy or Jeep.
The whole point of a smaller pickup is economy. This truck is NOT economical.
Love your channel. Love your shit talking about these greedy corporations
Did you mention the missing bump stops? for the trucks? 100% I won't buy a Tacoma because of the Press Launch event with overheating Transmissions, and they didn't even load up the trucks with gear and a trailor.
The new Toyota four-cylinder is garbage ask the man who owned one. Truck is gone engine went 23,000 miles. Garbage trash
Buy a Canyon With a five cylinder Chinese engine... On the other hand, don't do that either. They're all garbage
I get 21mpg in my 2021 Tacoma TRD with a V6. I think the new one gets 23mpg and that’s if you don’t wined out the turbo then it gets less. That doesn’t seem like a lot better gas mileage to me.
This what happens when you put shareholders over customers!
Aren't they made in Mexico now? So it's literally a Toyota taco...shouldve kept them being built in north america
The cab has to be removed to replace the defective Tundra engines. That means a dealer is going to have to take apart all the dashboard connectors and who knows what else and then reassemble the entire cab systems. And this is going to be done in a dealer's shop by who knows how skilled the mechanics are. Problems may not show up while under warranty. I've heard no one is taking them in trade, even Toyota dealers are avoiding them.
Toyota is now considered junk and the Dealerships are viewed as thieves. What a combination. The reliability is GONE.
I was a Toyota guy through and through. My 2018 Tundra was/is the last one I'll ever buy. My next vehicle will likely be a GM product. Makes me sick to even say that.
How about the Ford with the Coyote V8?
Same, and you hate to see it.
Lets not talk about the Stop sell on the Grand Highlander and Lexus TX series vehicles! Toyota has failed everyone.
Turbo charged 4 cylinder plus a 4,500lb vehicles just does not compute
Those boots he’s pushing are Chinese pieces of crap. A few bucks more and you can get REAL boots made in America!
Toyota switching from miles per gallon to parts per mile! More parts, more money, more problems. 22re was an irreplaceable engine, get back to roots Toyota!
Drove by the Toyota dealership in Rapid City. They have 35 new Tundra on their lot! No previous generations.
My first gen 4.7L still kicking. No need all those BS computers.
Number of times my 2nd gen tacoma needed more speed=0
Number of engine/transmission engine issue=0
Number of people that want to buy it when I get gas, everyone.
Had to make a emergency run about 150 miles away last Saturday in my new Nissan Frontier. I never drive fast but had my reasons. 80 mph the entire way. The computer showed 27 mpg! Absolutely no advantage or reason for theses woke new engines.
Nissan is the last great truck standing - who’d a thunk it?
Great to hear that!
I just purchased a 24 Nissan Titan pro4x
@@kurtbeck5809love my 21 XD you won't regret it
I bought a Frontier Pro4X in July. It’s a blast!
@@kurtbeck5809 Smart purchase.
50 k for a truck is wild.....hard pass for 50k I could take a old 30 year old truck and built a show truck, or i could just buy several used trucks....... or i could spend 10k for a truck, then put 40k in savings....thinks about it, the car dealers are ripping you off, fyi turbos wear out. and gas engines with turbos will never see 200k before a major issue
At about the 2:30 mark - all this talk of great fuel economy from all of these little overstressed DI turbos? It's all on paper. They are optimized to impress EPA test cycles but suck at MPG in real life. I had a Mazda CX-5 turbo that got 17mpg in stop-n-go town driving, stop sign to stop sign. I got a Kia with a 1.6 turbo, almost a liter smaller, in a car that weighed about 600lb less, and on the same drive it got...17mpg.
All that and recent stories about Toyota's wokeness is a huge turn off for the product.
How do you solve this problem … don’t buy them. I’ve been on the market for a while, but I’ve decided that no truck is worth over 50k and all the new engines are not worth the headache. I’m going to hold on to my 2011 Ford F-150 with 122k miles for another 10 years
we bought a used toyota pickup with a 22something or other engine. it was AWFUL! sometimes we would bail out because of the gasoline smell thinking it was about to explode. sometimes the engine would just... stop running. then it would randomly start up again. i dont think i want to buy another, when it came time to replace it (as soon as we could afford it) we bought an f150 thats given us only one issue... and that was with the air conditioner after 140k miles. no big deal we fixed it and now its great. zero issues with the engine or transmission. to be honest the toyota was our first commercial truck and we remember it fondly for its many quirks.
so you're saying the older gen is worse? I really don't think you know what you are talking about let alone know anything about vehicles.
It's easy to say that "Toyota will take care of their customers", such as after an engine fails, because they are doing that now for 2022 and 2023 Tundras. Which are still under warrantee. What happens if I buy a Tundra or Tacoma and drive it 100,000 miles THEN the engine fails because of manufacturing problems? At that point I'd bet that Toyota would not jump to replace engines out of warrantee.
I wish that the Tacoma had the current ergonomics and seating position but the old V-6 with a modern transmission, even a 6 speed, plus the manual transmission option.
With Nissan Frontiers keeping the NA and reliable v6 + the simplicity that Tacoma owners loved, we might see the Frontier take up quite a few more sales in 2025.
Turbocharged is great for your zippy sports car. I would rather have a naturally aspirated reliable 6 cylinder Tacoma. I don’t think the turbo four will last anywhere near 100,000 miles.
It’s a truck, not a Supra… why are we talking about sports car type performance? People need to adjust their expectations for what they bought…
Blame the EPA.
WOKE === BROKE
Even for Toyota
I was going to say they are definitely liberal run now
Hello Nissan King of the Mid-size trucks. New auto industry saying (Go Cheap or Turbo Go Broke).
I drive a 25 year old Toyota, my mom drives a 12 year old Toyota.
Both run like a top, neither have a turbo.
Other vehicles may get a little better gas mileage, but the only thing these car goes in for is oil changes.
Make me a base model truck with 1998 tech plz. I hate these new vehicles.
I would never pay $40k-$60k for a toyota. These new models look ugly and I don't trust their new engine.
Nobody cares, Toyota sucks now
4 cylinder turbo for a pickup?
Lame.
all they had to friggin do was keep the v8 as an option... i'll keep my 2015 ... damn
I grabbed a very well equipped 2023 TRD Sport Tacoma last December when I could get a deal. Not the biggest cargo or towing capacity but it should last! Probably can sell it right now for a nice little profit, but I won't. Honestly I don't care for any of the technology stuff except the back up camera. In retrospect should have grabbed a loaded SR5 with a regular key start. Love the manual parking brake handle.
I bought a new 2022 V6 loaded TRD Off Road 4x4 with key start & manual trans 2 years ago.
It's worth more now than what I paid for it.
@@georgedreher2322 Yeah I had slim pickings it was the last of the new 3rd gen stock. A lunar grey TRD sport, with long bed double cab, showed up on the lot when I was there and I grabbed it. Still had the plastic cover on it. LED foglights, headlights and bedllights, 120 volt outlet in the bed, floor mats. Very nice setup. Grabbed the Toyota tube steps and mud flaps on sale too. Not going to say what I paid but it was a great deal!
Who is going to buy a used 4 cylinder pickup truck? Warranty done, truck is done.
Only dealers are raising prices on the previous gen Tacomas. 😂.
Nissan Titan..is the best truck..old man talking...
The Tundra engine problem and the transmission problem on the Taco a big issues.
No thanks 52k.... I'll ger a nissan frontier for cheaper and no turbo
more expensive and made in Mexico, oems send it to Mexico to cut cost but they don't cut the price, if they pay less to be built they should be less at the msrrp. but yes oems need to make money but adding 20-30% more is really gouging all buyers
I bought a new 1992 Toyota pickup - six cylinder, fwd. I sold it in 2022. It had skin cancer but otherwise never failed me.
Today, I would not touch a Toyota. They have spent decades resting on their laurels. Curses to Toyota, I want to buy a new one, but that would make me a moron.
I want one I will admit, but the costs just keep me holding onto my 96 chevy for now.
Toyota seems to be doing what other manufacturers have been doing for years. Instead of setting high standards, Toyota is pacing itself to other manufacturers to do ever so slightly more. Would you take the Ford 2.7 over Toyota’s 3.4? Maybe, but likely not. However, would you consider new Toyota engines to be over engineered like the 5.7? Nope, not even close.
Do you ever get run off lots for making videos? Or have the cops called?
🤣🤣🤣 I moved to the Philippines after I retired and I purchased a new 2022 Toyota HiLux Conquest 4x2 diesel for just under $25k USD and it gets amazing MPG and I love it far more than the two Tacomas that I owned when I still lived in the US.
Goodbye Toyota….Hello to my new Frontier Pro4X
To cut costs they destroyed their 40 year legacy of reliability. A turbo in a truck is simply BAD! Every car now is over boosted & the motors don’t hold up because they don’t use forged internals & lots of plastic instead of metal. Buy a 2019 or older Taco & you’ll be happy.