@@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores put away an amount of money you are comfortable putting away each week that you are fine with not touching then do that each week. You will be surprised how much you save by the end of the year and how much of a habit it becomes
My most horrible experience with jobs was my summer job as a waitress. Communicating and being particularly nice to other humans, smiling all day, being there IN the moment, ... never doing that again
Aimie-Lee I feel ya. Three years back I took care of an older lady. I would cook for her, do her yard, clean her house, grocery shop, take her to doctor's appointments, & I even gave her poodle haircuts. She was a bitter hateful person who hated men. She would talk about how much she hates men everyday for at least 3 hours. She would say thing's like" you're a worthless piece of $h!t that will never amount to nothing. It was awkward , & uncomfortable. I put up with it for six months. I once took a job at the front desk at Holliday Inn, & within two weeks the Lady that hired me realized I wasn't people oriented so she transferred me to the banquet dept. In today's corporate world it's almost impossible to find a job that fits if you're an intj.
Oh I work at my sister's cafe and whenever there's someone at the counter I always push my other colleges to assist the customers. Istg it's really hell working there but I'm glad at least they don't force me to smile at ppl all day😂
Another point: Avoid jobs where you are forced to interact with other people in routine, repetitive ways. Nothing worse to the INTJ than Customer Service or being required to listen to office prattle all day.
There's a lot of office jobs where INTJs will excel, particularly in the bottom of the corporate hierarchy in roles where the INTJ can improve process/systems, analyze, etc. (technology, engineering, finance). But their careers may be stunted in the long-run because all of these corporate jobs transition to leadership & relationship management as you climb the corporate ladder.
That is so true. I hated customer service. I entertained myself by speaking fast and getting people off the phone as quickly as I could. I was able to take more phone calls than anyone else and still have more time to myself just to chill, because I took so many calls and they averaged out to allow me some free time. I suppose you can create some personal time as an INTJ in any job, but some jobs are just way better suited for focused work alone.
Yeah. For my first job over the summer I was a ride operator. I got used to it after a couple months but after I got back into school I realized how much I hated my life. Don't ever be a ride operator.
Would like to add: avoid getting locked into customer service or retail style sales, too. It can be a great way to learn interacting with people in the short term, but if you try to do it long term as an INTJ, it's a killer!
Can't speak for sales because more stressed jobs in general, but customer service, meh, it's alright long term. Not the best job in the world, but manageable and gives you stability to pursue side jobs/ investments to give you a leg up in next endeavours.
Def! I worked in retail in a position that required sales and customer service skills while not being allowed to sit or stop smiling; also dealing with small kids. It was exhausting and made me physically sick, but I did learn a lot! Kinda glad it didn't last more than 3 months now though lol
I work from home two days a week, and I get a much done. The days I have to go in to the office it is so distracting. I work in an open office, and the guy next to be started making clicking noises, so irritating.
I worked in an open office during 4 months as a magazine proofreader. I never imagined I was getting in the hell’s gates... My ears, eyes and nerves are now much more sensitive, and I’m still trying to get back my abilities of concentration.
My suggestions based on life experience: Sales = No. Tech = Yes. Fixing People Problems = No. Fixing Systems & Processes = Yes. Managment = No. Independent = Yes.
I've tried sales, and while I can do it...I struggled with being to honest about the product...I would literally sell them on a competitors item if it was better made than the one I was selling...lol the brutal honesty of in INTJ-T isn't helpful when you are in sales.
I'm working as a copywriter and digital advertiser, I manage social media contents and all. I think it's important to mention the imaginative and creative side of the INTJ, so that people don't get stuck believing we're only meant for scientific fields. Ultimately I'm aiming to be a writer, and I don't think I need to say how much it fits an INTJ as well.
@Anne-Lou can we not put words in each other's mouths thank you. I can only speak for myself, I am the only INTJ I know, and by the last part I meant that there are several known INTJ writers. I'm still fascinated by science and physics and document myself regularly even though I suck at maths.
@Anne-Lou you didn't ? God (or the universe) bless. Yes I agree, me for example, I wasn't always an INTJ, if I analyse myself in high school I was an INFJ, but life kicked the F right out of me. So it depends how a person has evolved to become an INTJ (early or later on in life)
Yes, I'm a textbook INTJ. Been doing the test for 2 years now and always the same result, with hight I, N, T and J % It's most obvious in social situations.
I spent the last 2 years working as a janitor in Canada, while studied programming during the day and mastering English. Last week I finally started working from home as a developer, and now I'm moving to Japan to finish my studies in Japanese, since I can work from literally anywhere now. All of this while studying music, which is my main life goal, but as a Brazilian I couldn't afford the expensive equipments and courses before, so that's why the big detour. It's nice to read similar experiences here, anyone else thinks I'm just a plain crazy gambler.
I think it’s great that as an INTJ you can take risks (even if calculated) I procrastinated way to long in life but you saw your plan and you brought into reality right away. Bravo 💪🏻
Based on our comment,all the vision still show the personality of an intj.I bet,at the very gamble you make are been calculated as well.What a strong solitude my nation,way to live a life
hell yeah! i've also had a "crazy" past 3-4 years, trying so many different types of jobs, and have finally found my pursuit (and the craft that i want to master over my lifetime) in copywriting. started my own copywriting business and am grinding to get it off the ground and i'll be able to be anywhere in the world too! maybe we'll cross pathes! cheers mate
I'm an INTJ. I grew up wanting to be a lawyer and that's what I did. I'm a civil trial lawyer and it fits my personality because I am constantly facing new challenges I've never faced before and I have to research, think them through, and problem solve. I love my job.
To be honest, this is the only comment I looked for. I wanted to be a lawyer as well cause it challenges me to think deeply and analyze. Right now, I'm a teacher but I think my personality suits me better to be a lawyer. Thanks for your comment it push me to achieve my dream to be one someday hopefully.
i really wanna be a psychiatrist. one on one conversations with people, so i'm not in a large crowd. i get to study people and their behaviors. i'm always going to be learning new things because every person is different, so they act differently and i'll get to study that. if i work for private practice, i won't really be controlled because they hire you based off how your skills are different than other people, and how you approach things is different than their other workers. i get to help people and hone in on my skills of being able to notice when someone is feeling different emotions. it's been my dream job for about 2 years now, i'm 14, and everything I do is to help me reach that goal faster and more efficiently.
It sounds like you are confusing psychiatrist with psychologist. Psychiatrists are medical doctors that prescribe medication to treat mental illness, whereas psychologists are PhDs that focus on studying people's emotions and behaviors. While there is some overlap, psychiatrists mainly care about physiological changes and balancing chemicals in the brain, whereas psychologists provide cognitive behavioral therapy.
SkillzKillz yeah this was a few months ago, i’ve learned the differences between the two. i’m still all in for psychiatry, because i learned it deals more with the medicine side of psychology. i’ve always wanted to go into medicine but i didn’t know exactly what i wanted to do, because i was really into psychology. so i discovered that a psychiatrist deals with the medicinal side, but also works in the psychology field. but thank you for correcting me, you made it a bit easier to understand the definitions
I was a mortgage underwriter for several years but eventually got tired of the corporate life and gross incompetence of the bank I worked for. I went into business for myself. Now I’m studying to become a pilot. Play to your strengths as an INTj. There are plenty. Don’t be afraid to take chances. Enjoy the ride.
As an INTJ Dentist, very efficient and effective. Top 1 percent of dentists. You can do anything thing you want, you’ll build a system to allow you to succeed and function for the long haul.
Got my degree in Electronics Engineering. Worked for a company repairing multi-million dollar lithography machines. Great job with amazing perks, but I kept saying to myself... how do these people get excited to come back to this same place every day. So I quit that job, and started training dogs (me doing the actual training; not people lessons). Almost 20 years later, I've got a lengthy list of happy clients and never a moment of boredom!
Story of an INTJ engineer/researcher, planning to be a professor: I watched Terminator when I was 7, on a copied VHS tape from Germany, dubbed by a single guy. The image quality was crap, but I knew immediately that this was what interested me (I saw the T800 as the next step for humanity, to transcend our limits - read up on transhumans if interested). I couldn't stop talking about stuff like that, even later in my life. Didn't quite have the words for it yet at that point, but that never stopped me. Needless to say I wasn't popular and didn't find too many to discuss these ideas with (my dad was one of the few, an ENFP btw :D). Through experience and painful adaptation, I socialized quite well, but oh man was I alone with my thoughts. Until university that is. That's when I found out that fellow engineering students not only had similar ideas, I could actually learn from them. And of course my field of interest also widened through the years. I wasn't particularly interested about natural sciences in themselves, and that caused me trouble early on, so I thought, quite wrongly, that I wasn't meant for this field. If only I'd known what came later. Well, I graduated, I got employed as a medical device engineer and next to that I also did a PhD. It's not quite Terminator-level stuff I'm dealing with, but medical diagnostics are just as important to overcome our limitations. Meanwhile I'm also teaching and supervising the next generation, and I really enjoy explaining stuff. What's the point here? Until 2008 I had no idea which university program to choose. Biomedical engineering BSc didn't exist in my country until the very last moment. I went to their open day and knew I had to choose it. Initially I doubted myself due to how I envisioned academic life, but unknowingly moved towards it anyway, bit by bit :D. Had I known what I know today. See, some of us simply lose sight of our goals because of peer pressure and a society that's not exactly supportive of novelty and the unusual. Especially in more conservative countries like mine. The academia in Hungary is still rather backwards, and although millenials are starting to make their mark, it will be years until the effects are felt. You see, I always saw myseld on the threshold between industry and research, and that just wasn't a thing in 2008. Well, now it is. But I knew I was right. So, dear turbulent INTJs: ignore the naysayers, follow the laws but break the rules and listen to what old Ahnold has to say. He should be your idol too, he's a successful INTJ.
@Anne-Lou well, I didn't really have the specifics, just had a rough idea of what I wanted to do. All I'm saying is, if you're an INTJ and you have a plan, stick to it. Ignore whoever doubts you, you'll leave them behind eventually, and when you reach your goal they'll just watch with eyes wide open, jaws dropped. Or that's the plan at any rate :D
@Anne-Lou Without knowing the specifics, what I can say is this. I have a chronic medical condition that some days is pretty hard to bear, but typically manageable. If you're uncomfortable where you are, with what you're doing, or just feel limited in your present environment, move to another place or another country. I moved after graduation within the EU, and started working in 2 EU countries simultaneously (I found an exciting project in another country, but had a girlfriend in yet another :D). Most people around me still can't process that, but everything is impossible until someone does it. And it wasn't all conscious acts on my part, just making the right step at the right time, never too afraid to take action. Chronic health problems can be severely limiting, I know and understand. With my work choices my social life also suffered. But feeling unfulfilled as an INTJ, not moving towards a grand goal, is far worse than momentary suffering.
@Anne-Lou well, I guess I'm a bit older than you. The moving part was 6 years ago, and I'm married now (not the same relationship) and father of one. Distance can be pretty useful to keep the fire burning, so to say. Just make sure you meet every one or two months at least. Also helps to keep in contact via Skype. We spent our first half year separate, and had a Skype call each evening. Communication is everything in my opinion. And yeah, academia involves a lot of moving, that's for sure, especially early on.
I have to agree with JB Petersen here. It is very risky (read: not a good idea) to try to monetise your hobby. Perhaps a better idea would be to try to establish what it is that your mind enjoys doing in an abstract sense, and then find a profession where that kind of thinking would be most valuable. Doing what you like is freedom. Liking what you do is happiness.
It’s hard for sure, a hobby and the business of the hobby are completely different things. Monetizing skills and talents is much better, generally speaking
Hold on...this might be the most important life tip I’ve come across in the last few months. I’m going to work on this now and be back in a few months. Lol
I'm about to start a job as a business analyst. I'm also learning software development as a means of job security but my main focus has always been fiction writing. That's where my heart truly lies.
I'm an INTJ working in a call centre just to learn how to human. I have this Fi thing down now with the soft skills, as my customer satisfaction results always come in at 100%. Pretty proud of having accomplished how to read the cues people give with intonation and their choice of words. I can say that I immediately hear if someone's upset just from their breathing patterns, in which case I let them finish putting all that emotional stuff out on the table, upon which I emulate Fi by telling them that "I can imagine how that must be, how frustrating" followed up by an immediate "well I'm glad you told me about this, let's get that fixed right away for you". It's become child's play to me.
An input (i rarely comment but your comment hit home): I worked in technical support and on the phone for years and it sure helped me to understand people as you perfectly described it, but i ended up very disappointed by every clients, being bitter and arrogant, and not able to dedicate time and empathy to the people I really care for. I was also very bored by any of those jobs after some weeks. To sum up 8 years of career. Ended up switching careers, going to a web development bootcamp, and just started working in the field. Toughest but best thing I have ever done. It is tough to be on the phone every day, good luck learning how people behave on the phone :) and i hope you will have a better experience than what I had. Ps: english is not my mother tongue.
@@victoria6196 Thank you for the advice, Perhaps it's the difference between INTJ-A and INTJ-T. I've tested myself as Assertive, meaning that I don't need outside motivation to keep chugging along. I am quite self motivated and it's a delight to work with people through the phone. For me it helps, because I am completely awkward when I see someone face to face, there's no script to fall back to in case you say something bluntly inappropriate, and the person ends up thinking I'm hurting their feelings for personal giggles. I have experience in different customer service projects. One of them was for a famous international money transfer company. That was the most horrible experience because customers always have their feelings ampted up to 11, because it's about their personal money that's stuck in the system, and you as an INTJ are emotionally completely drained at the end of the day. Yes, that was experiencing feelers at their worst, and you can't sleep good at night because you try to figure out how to communicate to them to do simple tasks for them to get their money to where it needs to be. I now work in services and technical support for a printer company, no one's money is at risk, so they don't have a Fe freak out as much, plus I get to enjoy thinking outside the box more in providing technical solutions.
@@Farmynator thank you for your reply, it is very interesting and I completely feel you for the money transfer customer support, i used to work for a very known gaming console technical support for a time, most difficult cases were parents who would chargeback up to thousands of euros of transactions and my job was to convince them (based on evidence) that it was their kid. I get upset when people deny the evidence, when they are illogical, so those calls (plus all the insults) took a big toll on me. It also involved money and sometimes I would feel bad for some of them. I tested as INTJ-T, I see what you mean, very interesting how that difference manifests itself in that specific field.
Did marketing and sales and hated it. Going back to school for psychology now. Got two route (three) to take in 3-4 years: 1. Forensic psychologist (investigate crime) 2. Neuroscience 3. Clinical psychologist I think most intj go into academic due to the abstract nature of it
Bachelors in psych and hate it. Mostly working with people listening to their problems, over and over. Maybe its good in neuro, or doing dif test obtaining the data analizing. Wish you the best depends on you
LiJo, I think this video will be very helpful to our youngish INTJ's who are facing the Paradox of Choice when considering their career choices, path and or budgetary concerns. I sometimes wonder how I would have approached my college degrees if student loans were available in 1976 when I went off to college. I might still be there. Lindsey covered some terrific ground and I would like to add some other considerations that are very grounded, that one might consider or perhaps I did consider but did not consider important enough, then. Studies and Malcolm Gladwell (intellectual dork web...watch worthy podcast) have condensed our day to day routines at work, (minus factory, service, emergency responder jobs) to just a few hours where we actually, really sit down and work at a task, project or the hourly grind that is the banker's hour. Most people sitting at a desk job, in whatever career field they work in, work for only 2 1/2 hours a day. Two hours, 30 minutes a day and that is such a small part of the day. So, when you consider where your possible career field choices, ask yourself...where do I want to go for lunch. If you would like to sit in a cafeteria for lunch, just like back in college, then choose a career field with a campus. Work in a hospital, a university or on a big IT corporate campus. If you think perhaps you would like to eat your lunch outside surrounded by trees, then look to the park service, lol but the idea is that you might find enjoyment in being outside, whether you wield a pencil or an axe and weather you enjoy weather...pun intended. The most basic question is would you like to shower before work or after you come home from work. think about that for a second. You get the idea that I am advancing. Imagine yourself walking around the place where you work, who will say 'good morning' to you... ..and despite my desire or should I say the INTJ tendency to take 20 minutes to explain their theory, I would like to offer you the best commencement speech and advice, that I have found to be very true in my own life... given my advantage of hindsight and one of my favourite Broadway Play's advice... "Everything you need to know to succeed in Business" (must resist the urge to introduce ferret puns, here. Mika Ferret is napping in Schroedinger's Box)... All of us look back and wish we could speak to our younger self and offer advice or say "stop!". On TH-cam, I 'feel' like I almost do... I wish you all the best in life. The joy is in the journey, despite the Hallmark card tired cliche. As for myself, I joined the Air Force because I wanted my 'campus' where I worked to have some really cool toys. I joined the Air Force, retired from Socom Special Ops and my AFSC was 1C3. Command Post. wongfuphil.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/the-2-things-that-matter-most-to-people-in-their-20s/
I aim at working in a university, I just want to do my research and be left alone, that's how I can be satisfied and happy. I hate having to deal with people. I have my plans and people are not involved in these. I don't entirely hate social interactions, I just need few of them sometimes with people I trust and I can be myself with.
In my previous job, I told my Boss we should work on A first then B, He disagrees with me saying B is more important, and we should work on B first. Several weeks later, B is not working well, and he started focus working on A. As an INTJ this kind of treatment burn me out, I go along with your plan, I spend my energy to think any possible way to make your plan work, and you suddenly change the plan. Never working with someone like this again...
I'm an INTJ male with a very successful career in a design oriented business where I manage teams of up to 40 staff. I am *very* high on introversion, but sometimes to get ahead you have to break through that (even if it's hard). I have managed mentored multiple MBTI types and learned something different from each. It's important to remember that your MBTI is your natural preference, but it is not a cage. You learn by being out of your comfort zone, but don't jump too far in one go. I love my job by the way (The day job, not the TH-cam Channel I run to help realise my daughter's dreams (but that's fun too!!)
I worked as a cellular switching engineer for 20 years. Everyone wanted to work the day shift so they could have a night life, but I always volunteered to work the night shift, because it meant I could work alone, when it was quiet and no one else was around. I did that for several years, in fact. It meant no rush hour, being able to go to the supermarket when no one was there, or doing other things when everyone else was at work, or going to the last showing of a movie on a Sunday night, when the theater was completely empty because everyone else was in bed because they had to go to work Monday morning. Heaven! I was able to get all the nightly work done usually within two hours, and then had the rest of the night to do whatever I wanted - which usually meant writing or reading - unless something went wrong with the equipment, and then I focused on resolving that. The majority of the time, the problems were easy to fix, and then I could get back to my own thing. I'd even volunteer to write maintenance procedures for the office or similar things, since I liked to write. Given the field, that made it essentially technical writing. But doing things like retail, where you have to interface with people all the time, or customer service, or anything like that?! *UGH!* Absolutely not. Just thinking about those things makes me cringe.
Recently discovered I was an INTJ and that my friends were either INTJs or INFJs. I studied Law (which I hated), then learned to program and started companies which makes me an entrepreneur kind of. I think that's the best fit for INTJs regarding ambition/independence, it's very stimulating and filled with challenges.
I understand how that feels. I studied Law because my parents wanted me to. I'm happy you're doing what makes you happy. Best of luck to your new endeavours.
I work from home the more autonomous the better . When I have to do the mundane line by line stuff I’m usually brushing up on my language skills or listening to a physics/psychology podcast at the same time so it’s not a bad experience . And I feel very lucky . But be warned once you are autonomous the thought of going back to a constrained 9-5 will fill you with fear . 😀
Yep, good advice. My worst jobs were database manager and intern for a state-run union. For the past 18 years I've been an event manager in the arts and culture field. Taking someone else's bag of wishes and making it a reality. Except weddings, I try to stay away from weddings. Too many emotions. Many people assume that an introvert would be bad at event planning, but we are actually the very best because we look, listen, think and (as an INTJ) intuitively understand flow (which is a rare trait). The best events are were I'm not noticed - because everything worked, and it wasn't about me in the first place.
I understand your points about working for myself and have cycled between working for others and for myself a few times over the years. What I learned about myself, that is probably the case for other INTJ, is that even though I have more flexibility working for myself, it came with a host of tasks I did not want and didn't want to find someone else to handle for me. I want to focus on my area of expertise, not prospecting for clients, dealing with payroll and taxes, office space, and gazillion extrovert tasks. Finally found my niche in a mega-corp that appreciates my idiosyncrasies and pays me well to employ my knowledge base for them. Just a perspective why an intj may prefer not ri work for themself.
I'm an INTJ-T and I've been a Cop for 21 years. It is a love/hate relationship and probably not the ideal profession for an INTJ. I'd say it takes a lot more out of me than other types. I spend my days off trying to "recharge" but it's still not enough time. Parts of the job come naturally and others don't. I only have 8 years to retirement, otherwise I'd quit in a heart beat! I'd advise other INTJ'S to stay away.
I want to be an author. I want to write fiction novels, because it fits how I work best. The problem is that I recognize that there's a very high chance that it won't earn enough money to support a future family. So I have an issue where I know what I really want to do with my life, but at the same time I'm stressing out at the overwhelming possibility that it's not going to be enough.
Ha ha! I am an INTJ and I lead a team of INTJs (3 guys and one woman) and what you describe at 2:10 is what we do all the time. And we have been working together well for years and everyone recognizes us as one of the best teams in the organization. Not just typing data, but organizing it in different, useful ways.
I worked in a hotel with day+night shifts. The boss was a crazy psycho, but she only showed up for 1 hour a day. I planned my whole working day and night there, I played the piano when the guests went away, I learned French, I drew, I listened to an audiobooks, I exercised, I'd never been so productive even at home as I was there. Plus, I made the most money my shifts, cause I followed people via messages and emails until they finally completed booking and paid for their rooms cause I simply hated unfinished lists of booking. The connection with people was at the minimum, just meet them, give the keys and help with breakfast.
I can relate so much to the *SI Work* (Line by line office work) I did Data Entry as a job & it was by far the worst/boring/repetitive job I have ever done in my life. The only way I survived was putting headphones in & listening to AudioBooks & Podcasts to keep my mind active
I bet more than half of the people who say that they are INTJ are not. That and INFJ are the most mistyped types out there. Everyone thinks, "I'm very analytical. I'm logical. I'm into ideas....therefore I'm INTJ." That's not how it works. If you're really INTJ then you're in your head so much that you don't notice that the phone is ringing. You don't notice that you have a stain on the shirt that you've been wearing for the past 3 days. You don't want to go outside and do stuff because it's just not worth your time and it's boring. When one of your few friends calls you, you don't want to answer the phone because you hate chit-chat, and you don't want to hear about their problems.
As a meticulous INTJ I’m afraid I must vehemently disagree with the “stain on your shirt” assertion. Being sloppy is not being INTJ. Everything else you said was spot on though.
I agree except for the phone ringing point. Sure, I won’t hear a person calling my name, but I’ll definitely hear that wretched ringtone no matter which world I’m in. It gives me anxiety.
My career pathway would be: Law (currently studying) >> Masters Degree >> Diplomat public examinations >> Public Official. I found that I'm a natural polyglot. Not the best out there, but still good enough. Likewise, I like interacting with important people and I'm not afraid of talking in front of a public. I believe that Diplomats do have some freedom albeit they work under the supervision of a higher-ranking public official (Ambassador) and ultimately, the Government. During the summer seasons, I work as a receptionist. I don't want to dedicate my life to the tourism sector.
Anything that has to do with a large volume of physical paperwork is bad for an INTJ. I had a job where my main job was to open mail mail and respond or file it. It was a nightmare not only to have to deal with so much paperwork, but keep it organized as well.
Worked in a crowded & fast paced web agency, hated it to the point of having health issues. Now I am a freelance software developer, working from home at my own conditions, best decision of my life!
neat video!! i also find that INTJs usually crave jobs which are constantly present with new problems to solve while NOT being bogged down by the boring repetitive sensory details. This is why i never quite understand the career stereotype associating INTJs with academic wet lab researching fields, when research itself is FILLED with repetitive sensory data inputs that may ultimately not yield much fruitful analysis because of /one/ tiny mistake in the experiment somewhere + don't get me started with the tedious, tedious process of applying for grants filled with paperworks + putting your works through the grind of 10+ edit sessions just for the chance of publication *shudders*
If anybody comes to this comment....I wanna share my story...I graduated around COVID with computer science degree I didn't wanna be a software guy, I didn't specialise in one thing instead I tried my hands on different tech, Basically covid was my cue to be unconventional in my learning and I have worked a shit job for 1.5 yrs, an inner voice kept telling me that I am missing the opportunity to do what I needed to do... so i quit my job took time to learn aggressively and started to apply to jobs... now I am again in a shit job ...which I don't care to lose guess what ...I know where meaningful work lies and it might take some time ... but I will come out the gates a champion because I am one and I am blessed to have the skills I have the mindset that I have and I am winning right as I comment this. Hashtag manifestation
This was very helpful for me as a young INTJ. Although I study at vocational high school of art (different education system) so I already chose a path, sometimes it seemed more like sensory and not really creative so it wasn't 100% for me before. But after I found MBTI I realized why it was actually perfect for me. I like it because it connects creative with technical and that's great for an INTJ. You could make a video about INTJs and creativity. Something on reddit about whatever careers we may choose, we'll always be creative.
I am without a doubt an INTJ and the most successful job I had was being a car salesman for 6 years. I came in 22nd in the nation in top sales in 2016 in the brand I sold. More INTJ's should try sales.
@@time_to_sleep12 ... I understand that on the surface it seems counterintuitive, but one area that INTJ's flourish is being a consultant. Learning a product, consulting clients about that product, and then getting a large commission for assisting that client in making a well informed purchase is right up and INTJ's alley.
As a INTJ woman, I'm back at school to be self-employed. Bosses, rules and teams hold me back. Collective progress is slow and deficient. I've never turned to colleagues to fulfill my social life. Beyond sharing tasks, we have nothing in common. It took me 20 years to realize the job I need doesn't exist, but I can create it. The dojo is a boys' club where I fit right in. I don't enjoy working with mostly women. However, I would hesitate to work again with mostly men : 1) the trouble with enjoying male company is that it's not mutual. I'm not recognized as one of the boys. 2) I would fear harassment or worse. If I go into a real-life situation thinking I'll need my martial arts, I'd rather avoid it altogether.
WOW! I just landed on your video and have to say that this was the best way to deliver a valuable affirmation! Boy the time we waste second-guessing ourselves when truly settling on a career track.
Poker or trading are excellent for INTJs, I don't play poker but I do trade markets which involves in having a strategical mindset figuring out different methodologies, analyzing, researching, planning. I see life as a chess game:)
Hey, I'm a fellow INTJ in a deep crisis. I really don't know how to turn my life around. I would like to find a job that gives me a sense of fulfillment, but I can't feel a sense of satisfaction for anything. I can't feel anything anymore, that's the thing! I don't know if it's just my depression at this point, and I don't even know if anyone can relate to me. Even though INTJs are not really known for their emotional side, for me, not feeling anything is a real torture. I feel basically already dead and I'm just at the end of my twenties. If anyone can help (somehow), I'll try to help him/her concretely in turn.
@@shriefallam8866 Thank you so much for the really kind words, brother :) Unfortunately, practically nothing has improved in my life. I still feel nothing (emotionally) and just feel more tired than last year (physically). It might sound like a bit of a conspiracy theory, but I actually feel VERY different since I got vaccinated for COVID, and not for the better. I'm convinced that we need pragmatic and realistic solutions to improve people's lives, otherwise things obviously stay the same.
i've had a pretty wild and interesting road to finally be in what i feel like is my landing place now... i studied finance in college and did internships in investment banking. one day, i just walked out and said f*ck this. everyone was miserable. they kept us there until midnight or 1am every night and on weekends. i was so stressed out i couldn't even breathe. being pulled in 5 different directions, never getting a chance to sit down and have some time to get stuff done. i then went back to college my senior year not knowing what the hell to do w my life b/c finance was my plan, so i joined an acting class and went to therapy, lol. did acting for a few years and really spent 2-3 years really exploring myself and going a bit off the grid. i wanted to let go of everything that i felt so attached to. all the while i was teaching tennis. then i left acting because i started to miss the intellectual challenge and work. i tried programming for 6 months, stopped. tried trading for 6 months but stopped because didn't see a way where i could work for myself. kept teaching tennis all the while, and finally, 6 months ago, started a copywriting business. working on getting it off the ground right now but am SO excited. the work involves a lot of research on a product (for the company you are writing a, for instance, sales letter for) and then a lot of research on the target audience, and then it's up to you to report all of the benefits of the product in an irresistible way. it might seem crappy because it's technically sales, but it's awesome because it's writing! i don't have to deal with people haha. and i get to craft these beautiful pieces. it is the perfect fit for me AND just as important, allows me to work for myself and be anywhere in the world! and make really good money! took me a while...but i feel in a great place now and ready to take off and become the best copywriter in the world. i'm 27, so yeah, like i said, late start, but i'll have my 10,000 hours by the time i'm 32/33, not bad. cheers, fellow intjs. follow your intuition
I’m an INTJ and I work in Data management for my local fisheries so line by line sensory doesn’t bother me 😂 however I do have a lot of flexibility in how I go about doing my work and my supervisor is understanding and gives me space. I don’t think I’ll be here forever but database experience is valuable and the building I’m in offers other opportunities for field work and travel which I enjoy. As an INTJ I value a work environment that is functional so that I have the ability to strategize in the way I see fit. When things are nonsensical I get aggravated and unproductive.
Being told what to do...when to do it..and how much to do to be productive makes me miserable. Unfortunately more and more this is how work works. I had a couple managers that learned that if they let me go and do it my way I'd get more done than following their guidelines.
A great job for a INTJ in a creative/design field is - "Technical Designer" in the fashion industry. The designer creates the design.... Once that style is ordered by a retailer, your job as a technical designer is to develop the clothing patterns through measurements, choose the right sewing construction and make sure it's implemented correctly through mass production.
At least for me the beeing your own boss thing is not even about money, it's about my boss simply not beeing good enought to do what we should do as a company and is actively hindering progression. I don't want to be a boss or a owner of a company in any ways, but I want to be on a place that is actualy trying to improve And at least for me,I search an very time-structured job. It helps me to organize an schedual, deadlines and my own time. When the job happens to have to many urgent demands it kills me
Thanks to you and everyone in the comments I discovered after so many years that I want to be a translator, I feel comfortable doing this, it feels natural and I'm excited. I say this because I studied as an architect and I wasn't able to work a little more alone, so I worked many times among groups of loud people 😅 so I really didn't enjoy being an architect and to follow everyone's rules and humilliation at work (here in Mexico, humilliation in work places is kind of normalized) so finally I discovered being a translator is something I want and can do. Thank you very much!
Finally set out on my own as an editor the past few months-REALLY set out on my own. Master-planning my own business, trying things out, doing things my way, is a delight. One thing I’ve had to come to terms with: while I’ve been praised for being detail-oriented and have indeed done a good job proofreading, that’s not actually my strongest point. Too much of it leaves me bored and less effective. I need to pursue more developmental and line editing. It’s harder to break into, and the pay is higher (so I feel more pressure), but it’s where I’ll excel as I gain more experience and confidence. I might be better with grammar details than many are, but that doesn’t mean I should spend every day focusing on them.
yoo i just started a copywriting business. working for yourself is the only way to go! cool to hear that other intj's feel the same way. cheers to writing!
It was a great relief to see that you didn't mention a long list of "jobs" or "professions" that could be good for this type of personality. As many of your followers, I'm an INTJ. The funny part is that my profession has nothing to do with the stereotype. However, I think that my plans for the future, and the way I want to use my knowledge is what makes me an INTJ
INTJ, self-employed bookkeeper. Your comment about line-by-line work hits home. I'm really good at it, but I hate doing it - unless it's something really interesting. So I find myself specializing in books that have been trashed.
I have had many jobs in my life and as soon as I mastered the skills of the job I was bored and wanted to move on and was unhappy in my job I never work anywhere where I am in a happy it was not until I found a job where I could learn unlimited skills for the rest of my life and not learned everything about the job I became a union stagehand loved it and thrived, I had difficulty dealing with the large crowd at times but the benefits far outweigh anyting
Very on point. Worked in accounting, went into sales/business development for autonomy and to be not as detail oriented, now in fintech (specifically in product) and everyday is just so different and I love it...im like a human Swiss Army knife now but took tons of risks/trial and error to get there. I didn’t even know my current career existed and I finally found something I can literally do forever. Wish you made this video four years ago haha.
INTJ's ability for long term planning comes in handy if you are breeding plants (or animals) professionally. Great job if you like biology and genetics.
You dealt with this the intj way without mentioning any particular careers yet so apt, detailed and necessary. Everything you said applies to me and I have figured it out since like junior high naturally like you said
I am an artist, woodcarver and furniture maker. I have my own studio and wood shop. For a good while I did commission work but the interaction with people nit picking me to death on their intricate wishes and desires was killer. It was not the nit picking that was hard. It was the interacting with the customers and all the mind numbing small talk that came with it that made it intolerable. Now I don't do commissions. I make what I want with no interaction and sell what sells. It is less lucrative but far more worth it mentally for me. I don't advertise or deal with marketing because I never really had to. It just kind of worked out when I was commissioned by a woman who was a coroner. She recommended me to other doctors and they continued the cycle. I feel like I have been fortunate because I don't really do well in traditional work environments. I've taken various personality tests and my results always come in INTJ. I've never done a test I paid for though, only the free ones offered online.
this is ABSOLUTELY WHY i have decided to teach for a lifelong career. 01 - i DO NOT CARE about making loads of money. 02 - while teaching DOES have some guided structure, it ALSO allows you to DO THINGS IN YOUR OWN WAY. 03 - it ALSO is extraordinarily powerful in preparing others for the future.
Beware fellow.. depending on what school system you are in, your freedoms as an instructor may be VERY limited.. test scores equate to funding for schools, not teaching our youth how to think.. just teaching them how to score well.
In the public school environment, freedom is NON-existent anymore. I returned to teaching math bc I had to sell my dance studio (pandemic 😖). I am the most miserable I’ve ever been in my life. Kids are worse, leadership is moronic, no freedom to teach. Don’t. Do. It.
I'm a mom of 2. I'm planning like crazy because I don't want to send my children to school in middle school and maybe even high school in 5 years. I may need to homeschool or make enough money to hire a tutor. I work at a school. Teachers are amazing; kids are getting worse and parents are becoming more demanding. Right now, I can't see how this system is sustainable. Also, my children are like me, so the behaviors would be a huge distraction to their learning.
@rocknrollfawn... im currently (forcibly, early) retired due to having been in a 2012 car wreck that VERY NEARLY KILLED me and left me with a traumatic brain injury. my life has been nearly nonstop recovery since then and, i HIGHLY DOUBT that ill EVER return to the regular working-world. SADLY... i couldnt POSSIBLY teach in a public school - NO WAY, NO HOW. too damn many 'rules and regulations' instead, i was teaching at a local non-profit where >>>>>>> I
I am starting psychiatry residency this July. Med school is a great path for INTJs who are willing to endure the initial pain of learning the intricate workplace social order and interpersonal skills. Overall, really forced me to grow in that way. The intellectual/academic aspects were, at least compared to many of my friends, effortless and fascinating.
I once worked a dirty job to stay employed thru the winter in the hort industry. I sorted plant labels in 'the label-rack-room', an unheated shed with mouse droppings & spiders. I worked alone for the most part, which was cool, and I listened to my radio station which played baroque music & I was ok with this as there was an end in sight. And I like mice & spiders don't scare me & I know to wear gloves...BUT...some guy co-worker would barge in, snap off my soothing music, say 'you can't be that depressed' & switch on Howard Stern whom I find offensive. Well, purgatory became hell.
also, took a career test during midlife. I am an INTJ & was thinking of a career change from horticulture & tested high for occupational therapy. The proctor said she found an unusual correlation btw nursing & horticulture. Nurses looking for a career change landed in hort & hort heads landed in nursing. Maybe it's a nurturing thing or it's seeing a problem & working thru it to a better future.
For the time being, I'm working at the Home Depot as a "Lot Associate". I'm the guy that gathers the carts and loads/unloads peoples vehicles. It's not a glamorous job, and I work in the Florida heat and humidity, but no one bothers me for the most part, and I can focus on what I'm doing, without getting constantly interrupted by customers wanting me to answer questions I neither know the answer to, nor care about. I get asked "don't you want to work inside in the air conditioning?" Nope, because I know how aggravated I'll get by the customers. I'm working on getting passive income and remote work, possibly some contract labor on the side.
A good INTJ career would be trading it's a very challenging area at the start not everyone succeeds but if you actually put your effort it can be extremely rewarding and potentially give you financial freedom, it will help you stay focused, make the use of new strategies, analyzing charts, planning, researching markets, a lot of successful traders are INTJs
I'll add to some of the sentiments shared before about creative fields being really ideal for INTJs. I've been a musician/performer/arranger/producer for my whole professional life and I couldn't imagine any other way to be. We might have Fi but music is such a release for that, which is scary at first but really damn liberating once you tap into your power as an introverted intuitive. We're like fucking Gandalf yall. The production side of my job has technical, theoretical, and creative synergy that can't be beat. I feel I'm living a 100% engaged, authentic life which is so important. As for working with other people, you're NEVER forced to work with people you don't like, in fact it creates a better product if you only work with the people you trust and vibe with. Spend my whole days in my own studio. It's really nice.
I'm an INTJ and am in the military as an Information Systems Technician, and have been for 20 years. Once I retire (soon), I am pursuing an entrepreneurial business, and am looking to start a couple of companies. Tired of working for someone and getting paid less than I'm worth, so I'll be my own boss.
As a “fluffy” feeler (INFP), I always have admired the clear directness of xNTJs. I am who I am and I get s41t done ✅ vibe, systems thinking / innovators is a big strength (however it is applied). Personally, I’m more focused on the how (process) individuals think / feel / perceive / problem solve etc than the actual tangible “real world” results. My question is, what Human Resources would you think would enable the most effective support for xNTJs?
You will hate it. I guarantee you. Being a Teacher is being a social worker nowadays. INTJ aren't build for that and on top of it, it will not satisfy your hunger for more knowledge as you will deal with and have to repeat the same low level, content every semesters for the rest of your career. This will bore you to no end.
@@Juicexlx well a teacher here probably an INTJ. At some point you are wrong. If you are innovating your techniques of teaching you will be bored. You are somewhat right that teaching nowadays have become like corporate sector. People in authorities want you to teach their way which is very very frustrating .. but above all you have a strong desire for for teaching you will be able to overcome all obstructions of your personality. Teaching leads you to hunger more for knowledge.
@@Juicexlxohhh I hate to concur but after 21 years as a hs English teacher, the struggle is indeed real!!!!! I resigned three times over that span of time before I said adios at the end of 2021 school year after Covid. Still trying to find my jam….🤔
So i am very new to MBTI test and finding out i am an full bred 100% INTJ. understanding my mind has helped me connect so many dots in my life and provided so much relief. I am excited to continue with this new information although it does seem challenging to live in a world not designed for you. I have no idea how i did it but everything you said i accidently got at my job, except the innovation. I was starting to feel trapped knowing other companies wouldn't make me happy but now that i know and understand what requirements i need to feel my best, i know what to look for. This channel and the INTJ world is helping me so much, thank you. Any more tips on how to get along better with people either platonically or romantically as an INTJ i would welcome.
I worked at open office for 3 months, it was my first and last office job. It was pretty awful, higher ups were unorganized and irresponsible, I was literally doing work of 3 people and I was underpaid (had to clean up lots of mess my higher ups and colleagues made which is mainly reason I quit the job)
@@dragonarch0 hilariously enough I just started a blog. I left that job I hated a little over a month ago. I've also been reading up on HTML/Python. That's great :D
INTJ I've been a 911 dispatcher for 12 years. I like it, it's organized chaos that I can control. I have recieved accolades. It's rewarding and not a "norm" job at all. I do rub my coworkers the wrong way because I am a control freak and not as friendly with them.
I find it interesting that you suggest steering clear of jobs that require creating lists and reports. I work in finance, and find the Ad Hoc projects and “fire drill” situations- where quick thinking on your feet is the only method to get the job done- to be the most pleasurable and engaging activity I participate in, at work. Additionally, I prefer the challenge of figuring out in those moments how to get the job done with the least amount of effort by my team and I, and how to fully utilize the tools at our disposal to accomplish that goal. In this regard, I love and appreciate these Si tasks. Perhaps because it’s so outside of my natural/automatic method of thinking. I become this energetic and motivational leader that simultaneously commends my teams’ hard work while pushing them to be better, faster, and smarter. I’ve had many bosses comment about this “team leader” attitude over the years; they don’t see it coming from me, because I usually hiss and hard pass when I’m selected to do any kind of leadership. But when I choose it, I become some kind of intense force. And the people who would usually scold me or call me overbearing or controlling in these situations fall right in line because, apparently, my drive and excitement for challenge is infectious. It’s all just very interesting...
Remote Senior Risk and Compliance analyst for Fintechs. Don’t deal much with people. Work with processes and regulation. Get to go for numerous certifications and grow in so many avenues. Love my career. Also Fintechs always evolve and require innovation.
Air Traffic Controller here. Absolutely love it. No two days are the same, keeps me engaged with a moving puzzle that I have to solve rather quickly. Personal life on the other hand can be summed up with two words; People suck!
Moises Cespedes I considered this when I was young but was turned off when I heard it was a very stressful job. Can you speak on the validity of this??
Sapphire Sky It really is, but it’s not the reason to stop ourselves (INTJs) from achieving big things, I’m awkward I say things that make people go hmmm.. sometimes, but I don’t lose self confidence over it, I just don’t care lol, Level of perception of someone else is not my responsibility, I also think with age (I’m 33) INTJs get more rounded, but of curse my social battery is alway limited and there is also a healthy limit of how much time spend around others lol
Real estate?! You have to really enjoy talking to people on and off the phone frequently, attend social events. This’s not suitable for INTJ; I’d rather be a SECRET agent.
Software developer without a doubt. You can learn everything online, it's very complex and abstract and the pay is excellent. Plus you can shift your interests a lot if you get bored. Of course you have to actually be good in it.
i work for a company that inspects/repairs/builds powerlines with the use of helicopters. ive never gone to college, but i did go to trade school, for plumbing, got paid for it too. i literally just showed up, applied, they told me to come back for the interview, and then continued telling me to come back. and its by far the best job ive ever had. ive always been a huge aviation nerd, so getting to fly around all day, sometimes at a snails pace though, is just the greatest thing to me.
I have held really anti-intj jobs in reception / admin for years. They are dull but they're not the worst thing around. At least I get to stay clean and work in an air-conditioned environment. For me what really makes a job good or insufferable is the employees around and above me. Work with good people and it all feels worth it, work with toxic mofos or useless people and have violent fantasies about ending them lol. I still don't know what to do with my life. All I really want to do is make dogs happy and learn random things.
I’m currently a SAHM which I am actually not a fan of. Of course my childhood dreams were a cop ( I was young so more like CSI) my parents didn’t like that so my dreams moved to paleontology/archeology and of course they didn’t like that either. I pursued art and barrel racing all through high school (which I excelled at) and landed a full ride at Kansas City for graphic design and my parents again were like “no, why would you want to do that?!” I settled on pursuing a DVM (because I love horses and dogs) but of course that was short lived because the college I started at was in my home town ( ie I was still living at home) and could not focus on studies, taking care of my parents priorities and my (6 years) younger sister. I’ve had a slew of jobs I’ve hated (retail, waitress, secretary, logistics, bartender, newspaper editor) and I can’t say I’ve had one that I truly enjoyed. I’m still completely infatuated with criminal justice and now I pretty consumed with physical fitness. I, of course, still love my horses but not all INTJs eventually fall into the career they’re meant for. At least it hasn’t happened for me and I’m 34.
im an intj female and i could agree more with that fact that we love to plan or how can we do a certain idea. im a baker and i really love it. when my costumer send me picture of the cake they want me to make, i will start planning on how to do it, check ingredients, what time to start which step, plan ahead on what might happen wrong and what to do just incase. i work alone i prefer that way. it frustrates me to see someone do something which i know myself i do it faster and better. im kind of a perfectionist. i dont sell which i dont like. my costumer still sending me inquiries even though im on temporary on halt in baking, my priority as of now raising my son, he is 1 and i will surely be back in business when he is 3 or starting to go to school
Good looking out. I’m 49% Extroverted and 51% Introverted and this really actually put things more in perspective for me. A good friend of mine is a ISTJ I’m a INTJ and he often times confuses people’s Auxiliary functions. Due some times to a one tract minded world view.
Making someone else money is a way for us to test our theories and refine ourselves using so done else's money? Especially if you seek to start your own business it means you can move on to do it for yourself after running simulations.
My worst job was being a receptionist. I could not Se for that long. Or Si. It was the worst! My best job was being a Phlebotomist & finding shortcuts to getting supplies, test results, & streamlining the workflow to benefit the patients the most. I would always find the fastest ways to get from one area of the hospital to the next testing center for the patient. One time, I even bought a patient food just so he could recover from his fasting glucose test faster when the test was over. I really miss this job.
@@t5396 So my receptionist job was nice. It just didn't work for me because I could not pay attention to the present moment for so long. I kept wanting to anticipate future events to streamline my workflow. It didn't work because the phone rang endlessly. One of the worst things you can to got get an INTJ fired (or to quit like I did) is to give them too much work & not enough time to plan out the best way of doing it. The workflow there made me feel like I was drinking from a fire hydrant. Also, I never had any breaks. I would get back from lunch (lunch was an hour) & already had one or two people demanding to be seen right now ( the office had just opened) & I still needed to clock-in. It was very annoying to have three people in front of me demanding undivided attention while I had three calls on hold with people also demanding attention RIGHT NOW. I just don't function well in the RIGHT NOW all the time. I would rather deal with ideas than people directly. Which is why I'm back in school to be a Physician Assistant. That way I decide how much time I give people & then I also get to be sort of my own boss. I would still have to work with a doctor. I also want to specialize in Endocrinology so I can help people plan out their FUTURE workout & eating habits. I really do want to help people. Just not in RIGHT NOW mode all the time.
@@anasaucedo100 I see. Just be careful with endocrinology. I have a condition, Hashimoto's, that endocrinologists are supposed to know how to manage but they are often ill-equipped to handle. I have to see a functional medical doctor for proper treatment. I hope it works out for you. Just keep in mind that not everything you learn in medical school, for instance, is the best information, and that you may need to look elsewhere for the right answers.
Hi LiJo! I literally had this moment when I realized that you only capture between 0.1% - 2% of the economic impact you create, and that's when I decided that I'm definitely working for myself as soon as possible. Also, could you please touch base on practical tactics to manage yourself when you're working for yourself? Thanks!!!!
I work as the chef in one of the busiest restaurants in my city, in an open kitchen. Very noisy. What do I like about it? It’s my own private fiefdom, I organize chaos on a daily basis, I mentor a bunch of incompetent but well meaning young folks (some of whom smoke way more weed than they should, drives me crazy), and it sometimes feels like it’s the last place in America you can speak your mind. I don’t have to listen to other peoples uninformed opinions, I can just tell them to go away. Downside? The front of the house is generally terrified of me, and will only speak to my sous if there’s an issue. Can’t imagine why, I’ve only ever yelled twice in my twenty year career.
People have ideas, INTJ's have the Thing, which is idea that has INTJ's. I love the Thing and the process the Thing takes me. Being in the Process with my Thing is Nirvana. I would be lost and Life would be meaningless without the Thing in my life. Even though my current job is not necessarily my Thing, it is a necessary step in the Master Plan that gets me closer to my Thing, which so far has occupied years of my life and will occupy an estimated 3-5 more years in order to reach the goal. Thankfully, I have Patience as a superpower.
Piece work, is awesome. I was told right away this is the machine, this is the job, and once you learn it, this is the potential rate. Works perfect, no problem.
2:04 I quite enjoyed a job I had analyzing data and making reports, because, as a computer programmer, I was able to automate much of my work. No one told me to do my job that way. It was my own idea.
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Buy assets, automate your passive income streams. Disappear into the woods
If only I had money to "buy assets" ..
@@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores We are pretty simple on spending typically. Savings buy assets even in small dollar amounts.
Passive income is so strategic!
@@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores put away an amount of money you are comfortable putting away each week that you are fine with not touching then do that each week. You will be surprised how much you save by the end of the year and how much of a habit it becomes
@@charlieparker4435 Well, I have been unemployed for over a year, so I am only able to put away $0 a week.
My most horrible experience with jobs was my summer job as a waitress. Communicating and being particularly nice to other humans, smiling all day, being there IN the moment, ... never doing that again
Oh man I can relate to this!! Smiling a lot because I have to makes my face actually hurt.
Aimie-Lee I feel ya.
Three years back I took care of an older lady.
I would cook for her, do her yard, clean her house, grocery shop, take her to doctor's appointments, & I even gave her poodle haircuts.
She was a bitter hateful person who hated men.
She would talk about how much she hates men everyday for at least 3 hours.
She would say thing's like" you're a worthless piece of $h!t that will never amount to nothing. It was awkward , & uncomfortable. I put up with it for six months.
I once took a job at the front desk at Holliday Inn, & within two weeks the Lady that hired me realized I wasn't people oriented so she transferred me to the banquet dept. In today's corporate world it's almost impossible to find a job that fits if you're an intj.
@Marhaeen LiVe What type of work were you doing?
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Oh I work at my sister's cafe and whenever there's someone at the counter I always push my other colleges to assist the customers. Istg it's really hell working there but I'm glad at least they don't force me to smile at ppl all day😂
Another point: Avoid jobs where you are forced to interact with other people in routine, repetitive ways. Nothing worse to the INTJ than Customer Service or being required to listen to office prattle all day.
There's a lot of office jobs where INTJs will excel, particularly in the bottom of the corporate hierarchy in roles where the INTJ can improve process/systems, analyze, etc. (technology, engineering, finance). But their careers may be stunted in the long-run because all of these corporate jobs transition to leadership & relationship management as you climb the corporate ladder.
@@SkillzKillzBR Yes this is the problem, and the lower jobs aren't high. Paying
My life 😭
That is so true. I hated customer service. I entertained myself by speaking fast and getting people off the phone as quickly as I could. I was able to take more phone calls than anyone else and still have more time to myself just to chill, because I took so many calls and they averaged out to allow me some free time. I suppose you can create some personal time as an INTJ in any job, but some jobs are just way better suited for focused work alone.
Yeah. For my first job over the summer I was a ride operator. I got used to it after a couple months but after I got back into school I realized how much I hated my life. Don't ever be a ride operator.
Would like to add: avoid getting locked into customer service or retail style sales, too. It can be a great way to learn interacting with people in the short term, but if you try to do it long term as an INTJ, it's a killer!
I think retail would actually be the death of me lol. I’m all about self growth but ... yikes.
Can't speak for sales because more stressed jobs in general, but customer service, meh, it's alright long term.
Not the best job in the world, but manageable and gives you stability to pursue side jobs/ investments to give you a leg up in next endeavours.
I did retail for 3 years. Learned some good people skills and met some cool people. Still glad I quit
Def! I worked in retail in a position that required sales and customer service skills while not being allowed to sit or stop smiling; also dealing with small kids. It was exhausting and made me physically sick, but I did learn a lot! Kinda glad it didn't last more than 3 months now though lol
I had burned out because of faking being nice in customer service job. 😅😅😅 Then I was doing cash collection and it was fun.
definitely avoid open office environments jobs. The distractions can crush your concentration.
So true. I once interviewed at a place like that. No interest in working there. All those distractions would make it impossible to get anything done.
I work from home two days a week, and I get a much done. The days I have to go in to the office it is so distracting. I work in an open office, and the guy next to be started making clicking noises, so irritating.
well that sucks
I worked in an open office during 4 months as a magazine proofreader. I never imagined I was getting in the hell’s gates... My ears, eyes and nerves are now much more sensitive, and I’m still trying to get back my abilities of concentration.
Isn't noisencancelling headphones are an option?
My suggestions based on life experience: Sales = No. Tech = Yes. Fixing People Problems = No. Fixing Systems & Processes = Yes. Managment = No. Independent = Yes.
Definitely
Agreed. What field encompasses this?
@@FushigiMigi I'm very happy in IT.
@@FushigiMigi consulting
I've tried sales, and while I can do it...I struggled with being to honest about the product...I would literally sell them on a competitors item if it was better made than the one I was selling...lol the brutal honesty of in INTJ-T isn't helpful when you are in sales.
I'm working as a copywriter and digital advertiser, I manage social media contents and all. I think it's important to mention the imaginative and creative side of the INTJ, so that people don't get stuck believing we're only meant for scientific fields.
Ultimately I'm aiming to be a writer, and I don't think I need to say how much it fits an INTJ as well.
@Anne-Lou can we not put words in each other's mouths thank you.
I can only speak for myself, I am the only INTJ I know, and by the last part I meant that there are several known INTJ writers.
I'm still fascinated by science and physics and document myself regularly even though I suck at maths.
@Anne-Lou you didn't ? God (or the universe) bless.
Yes I agree, me for example, I wasn't always an INTJ, if I analyse myself in high school I was an INFJ, but life kicked the F right out of me.
So it depends how a person has evolved to become an INTJ (early or later on in life)
Yes, I'm a textbook INTJ. Been doing the test for 2 years now and always the same result, with hight I, N, T and J %
It's most obvious in social situations.
yoo i'm a copywriter too! i just started my own copywriting business and am griding to get it off the ground! cheers man!
I'm aspiring to be a writer as well
I spent the last 2 years working as a janitor in Canada, while studied programming during the day and mastering English. Last week I finally started working from home as a developer, and now I'm moving to Japan to finish my studies in Japanese, since I can work from literally anywhere now. All of this while studying music, which is my main life goal, but as a Brazilian I couldn't afford the expensive equipments and courses before, so that's why the big detour. It's nice to read similar experiences here, anyone else thinks I'm just a plain crazy gambler.
I think it’s great that as an INTJ you can take risks (even if calculated) I procrastinated way to long in life but you saw your plan and you brought into reality right away. Bravo 💪🏻
You ain't crazy that's the intj way
Nothing is impossible for INTJs anyways. We know how to accomplish our goals.
Based on our comment,all the vision still show the personality of an intj.I bet,at the very gamble you make are been calculated as well.What a strong solitude my nation,way to live a life
hell yeah! i've also had a "crazy" past 3-4 years, trying so many different types of jobs, and have finally found my pursuit (and the craft that i want to master over my lifetime) in copywriting. started my own copywriting business and am grinding to get it off the ground and i'll be able to be anywhere in the world too! maybe we'll cross pathes! cheers mate
Intj. Behavior analyst. Constant puzzles and logical planning of how to execute behavior change.
Do you enjoy this job?
That's perfect since understand everyone better than our own selves.
I'm an INTJ. I grew up wanting to be a lawyer and that's what I did. I'm a civil trial lawyer and it fits my personality because I am constantly facing new challenges I've never faced before and I have to research, think them through, and problem solve. I love my job.
INTJ law student here, I am on the second year of the career and I can say that I could not make a better career choice
To be honest, this is the only comment I looked for. I wanted to be a lawyer as well cause it challenges me to think deeply and analyze. Right now, I'm a teacher but I think my personality suits me better to be a lawyer. Thanks for your comment it push me to achieve my dream to be one someday hopefully.
Yup. Great job for INTJs (especially women INTJs). Plus, when you come up with something new or change the law, it is a little like magic. ☺
i really wanna be a psychiatrist. one on one conversations with people, so i'm not in a large crowd. i get to study people and their behaviors. i'm always going to be learning new things because every person is different, so they act differently and i'll get to study that. if i work for private practice, i won't really be controlled because they hire you based off how your skills are different than other people, and how you approach things is different than their other workers. i get to help people and hone in on my skills of being able to notice when someone is feeling different emotions.
it's been my dream job for about 2 years now, i'm 14, and everything I do is to help me reach that goal faster and more efficiently.
that name
@@holdencaulfield3325 lol
that name tho 🤣
It sounds like you are confusing psychiatrist with psychologist. Psychiatrists are medical doctors that prescribe medication to treat mental illness, whereas psychologists are PhDs that focus on studying people's emotions and behaviors. While there is some overlap, psychiatrists mainly care about physiological changes and balancing chemicals in the brain, whereas psychologists provide cognitive behavioral therapy.
SkillzKillz yeah this was a few months ago, i’ve learned the differences between the two. i’m still all in for psychiatry, because i learned it deals more with the medicine side of psychology. i’ve always wanted to go into medicine but i didn’t know exactly what i wanted to do, because i was really into psychology. so i discovered that a psychiatrist deals with the medicinal side, but also works in the psychology field. but thank you for correcting me, you made it a bit easier to understand the definitions
I was a mortgage underwriter for several years but eventually got tired of the corporate life and gross incompetence of the bank I worked for. I went into business for myself. Now I’m studying to become a pilot. Play to your strengths as an INTj. There are plenty. Don’t be afraid to take chances. Enjoy the ride.
Yes 💯
If ur still in uw
Reach out
As an INTJ Dentist, very efficient and effective. Top 1 percent of dentists. You can do anything thing you want, you’ll build a system to allow you to succeed and function for the long haul.
Got my degree in Electronics Engineering. Worked for a company repairing multi-million dollar lithography machines. Great job with amazing perks, but I kept saying to myself... how do these people get excited to come back to this same place every day. So I quit that job, and started training dogs (me doing the actual training; not people lessons). Almost 20 years later, I've got a lengthy list of happy clients and never a moment of boredom!
Story of an INTJ engineer/researcher, planning to be a professor: I watched Terminator when I was 7, on a copied VHS tape from Germany, dubbed by a single guy. The image quality was crap, but I knew immediately that this was what interested me (I saw the T800 as the next step for humanity, to transcend our limits - read up on transhumans if interested). I couldn't stop talking about stuff like that, even later in my life. Didn't quite have the words for it yet at that point, but that never stopped me. Needless to say I wasn't popular and didn't find too many to discuss these ideas with (my dad was one of the few, an ENFP btw :D). Through experience and painful adaptation, I socialized quite well, but oh man was I alone with my thoughts. Until university that is. That's when I found out that fellow engineering students not only had similar ideas, I could actually learn from them. And of course my field of interest also widened through the years. I wasn't particularly interested about natural sciences in themselves, and that caused me trouble early on, so I thought, quite wrongly, that I wasn't meant for this field. If only I'd known what came later. Well, I graduated, I got employed as a medical device engineer and next to that I also did a PhD. It's not quite Terminator-level stuff I'm dealing with, but medical diagnostics are just as important to overcome our limitations. Meanwhile I'm also teaching and supervising the next generation, and I really enjoy explaining stuff. What's the point here? Until 2008 I had no idea which university program to choose. Biomedical engineering BSc didn't exist in my country until the very last moment. I went to their open day and knew I had to choose it. Initially I doubted myself due to how I envisioned academic life, but unknowingly moved towards it anyway, bit by bit :D. Had I known what I know today. See, some of us simply lose sight of our goals because of peer pressure and a society that's not exactly supportive of novelty and the unusual. Especially in more conservative countries like mine. The academia in Hungary is still rather backwards, and although millenials are starting to make their mark, it will be years until the effects are felt. You see, I always saw myseld on the threshold between industry and research, and that just wasn't a thing in 2008. Well, now it is. But I knew I was right. So, dear turbulent INTJs: ignore the naysayers, follow the laws but break the rules and listen to what old Ahnold has to say. He should be your idol too, he's a successful INTJ.
@Anne-Lou well, I didn't really have the specifics, just had a rough idea of what I wanted to do. All I'm saying is, if you're an INTJ and you have a plan, stick to it. Ignore whoever doubts you, you'll leave them behind eventually, and when you reach your goal they'll just watch with eyes wide open, jaws dropped. Or that's the plan at any rate :D
@Anne-Lou Without knowing the specifics, what I can say is this. I have a chronic medical condition that some days is pretty hard to bear, but typically manageable. If you're uncomfortable where you are, with what you're doing, or just feel limited in your present environment, move to another place or another country. I moved after graduation within the EU, and started working in 2 EU countries simultaneously (I found an exciting project in another country, but had a girlfriend in yet another :D). Most people around me still can't process that, but everything is impossible until someone does it. And it wasn't all conscious acts on my part, just making the right step at the right time, never too afraid to take action. Chronic health problems can be severely limiting, I know and understand. With my work choices my social life also suffered. But feeling unfulfilled as an INTJ, not moving towards a grand goal, is far worse than momentary suffering.
@Anne-Lou well, I guess I'm a bit older than you. The moving part was 6 years ago, and I'm married now (not the same relationship) and father of one. Distance can be pretty useful to keep the fire burning, so to say. Just make sure you meet every one or two months at least. Also helps to keep in contact via Skype. We spent our first half year separate, and had a Skype call each evening. Communication is everything in my opinion. And yeah, academia involves a lot of moving, that's for sure, especially early on.
Damn this was kinda inspirational,I want to be a mechatronics engineer and be able to use my creativity to create or fix things
@@behemoth2887 same mindset here. As an engineer, you can do both. So I'd say if you loved LEGO as a kid, go for it :D
I have to agree with JB Petersen here. It is very risky (read: not a good idea) to try to monetise your hobby. Perhaps a better idea would be to try to establish what it is that your mind enjoys doing in an abstract sense, and then find a profession where that kind of thinking would be most valuable.
Doing what you like is freedom. Liking what you do is happiness.
It’s hard for sure, a hobby and the business of the hobby are completely different things. Monetizing skills and talents is much better, generally speaking
Hold on...this might be the most important life tip I’ve come across in the last few months. I’m going to work on this now and be back in a few months. Lol
I'm about to start a job as a business analyst. I'm also learning software development as a means of job security but my main focus has always been fiction writing. That's where my heart truly lies.
I think Mike Rowe put it best "Follow opportunity and bring your passion"
I'm an INTJ working in a call centre just to learn how to human.
I have this Fi thing down now with the soft skills, as my customer satisfaction results always come in at 100%.
Pretty proud of having accomplished how to read the cues people give with intonation and their choice of words.
I can say that I immediately hear if someone's upset just from their breathing patterns, in which case I let them finish putting all that emotional stuff out on the table, upon which I emulate Fi by telling them that "I can imagine how that must be, how frustrating" followed up by an immediate "well I'm glad you told me about this, let's get that fixed right away for you".
It's become child's play to me.
That’s awesome!! Love your healthy perspective towards doing that.
@@InternetLiJo
Btw love your vids, they really help calming my mind.
Keep doing your thing and here's to us evolving into acceptable humans! 🍻 😋
An input (i rarely comment but your comment hit home): I worked in technical support and on the phone for years and it sure helped me to understand people as you perfectly described it, but i ended up very disappointed by every clients, being bitter and arrogant, and not able to dedicate time and empathy to the people I really care for. I was also very bored by any of those jobs after some weeks. To sum up 8 years of career.
Ended up switching careers, going to a web development bootcamp, and just started working in the field. Toughest but best thing I have ever done.
It is tough to be on the phone every day, good luck learning how people behave on the phone :) and i hope you will have a better experience than what I had.
Ps: english is not my mother tongue.
@@victoria6196
Thank you for the advice,
Perhaps it's the difference between INTJ-A and INTJ-T.
I've tested myself as Assertive, meaning that I don't need outside motivation to keep chugging along.
I am quite self motivated and it's a delight to work with people through the phone. For me it helps, because I am completely awkward when I see someone face to face, there's no script to fall back to in case you say something bluntly inappropriate, and the person ends up thinking I'm hurting their feelings for personal giggles.
I have experience in different customer service projects. One of them was for a famous international money transfer company. That was the most horrible experience because customers always have their feelings ampted up to 11, because it's about their personal money that's stuck in the system, and you as an INTJ are emotionally completely drained at the end of the day.
Yes, that was experiencing feelers at their worst, and you can't sleep good at night because you try to figure out how to communicate to them to do simple tasks for them to get their money to where it needs to be.
I now work in services and technical support for a printer company, no one's money is at risk, so they don't have a Fe freak out as much, plus I get to enjoy thinking outside the box more in providing technical solutions.
@@Farmynator thank you for your reply, it is very interesting and I completely feel you for the money transfer customer support, i used to work for a very known gaming console technical support for a time, most difficult cases were parents who would chargeback up to thousands of euros of transactions and my job was to convince them (based on evidence) that it was their kid. I get upset when people deny the evidence, when they are illogical, so those calls (plus all the insults) took a big toll on me. It also involved money and sometimes I would feel bad for some of them.
I tested as INTJ-T, I see what you mean, very interesting how that difference manifests itself in that specific field.
Did marketing and sales and hated it.
Going back to school for psychology now.
Got two route (three) to take in 3-4 years:
1. Forensic psychologist (investigate crime)
2. Neuroscience
3. Clinical psychologist
I think most intj go into academic due to the abstract nature of it
doing psychological work with others is what i do and boy it’s not enjoyable for me as an intj
Bachelors in psych and hate it.
Mostly working with people listening to their problems, over and over.
Maybe its good in neuro, or doing dif test obtaining the data analizing.
Wish you the best depends on you
As an INTJ, being a software engineer is the perfect job for me.❤️ I would really hate any job related to Hospitality.
LiJo, I think this video will be very helpful to our youngish INTJ's who are facing the Paradox of Choice when considering their
career choices, path and or budgetary concerns. I sometimes wonder how I would have approached my college degrees
if student loans were available in 1976 when I went off to college.
I might still be there.
Lindsey covered some terrific ground and I would like to add some other considerations that are very grounded, that
one might consider or perhaps I did consider but did not consider important enough, then.
Studies and Malcolm Gladwell (intellectual dork web...watch worthy podcast)
have condensed our day to day routines at work, (minus factory, service, emergency responder jobs) to just a few hours where we actually, really sit down and work at a task, project or the hourly grind that is the
banker's hour.
Most people sitting at a desk job, in whatever career field they work in, work for only 2 1/2 hours a day.
Two hours, 30 minutes a day and that is such a small part of the day.
So, when you consider where your possible career field choices, ask yourself...where do I want to go for lunch.
If you would like to sit in a cafeteria for lunch, just like back in college, then choose a career field with a campus.
Work in a hospital, a university or on a big IT corporate campus.
If you think perhaps you would like to eat your lunch outside surrounded by trees, then look to the park service, lol
but the idea is that you might find enjoyment in being outside, whether you wield a pencil or an axe and weather you
enjoy weather...pun intended.
The most basic question is would you like to shower before work or after you come home from work.
think about that for a second.
You get the idea that I am advancing. Imagine yourself walking around the place where you work, who will say
'good morning' to you...
..and despite my desire or should I say the INTJ tendency to take 20 minutes to explain their theory,
I would like to offer you the best commencement speech and advice, that I have found to be very true in my own life...
given my advantage of hindsight and one of my favourite Broadway Play's advice...
"Everything you need to know to succeed in Business" (must resist the urge to introduce ferret puns, here.
Mika Ferret is napping in Schroedinger's Box)...
All of us look back and wish we could speak to our younger
self and offer advice or say "stop!".
On TH-cam, I 'feel' like I almost do... I wish you all the best in life. The joy is in the journey, despite the Hallmark card tired
cliche.
As for myself, I joined the Air Force because I wanted my 'campus' where I worked to have some really cool toys.
I joined the Air Force, retired from Socom Special Ops and my AFSC was 1C3. Command Post.
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Amazing supplement thank you!!
That’s dope as hell dude thanks for insight -18yo INTJ
I aim at working in a university, I just want to do my research and be left alone, that's how I can be satisfied and happy. I hate having to deal with people. I have my plans and people are not involved in these. I don't entirely hate social interactions, I just need few of them sometimes with people I trust and I can be myself with.
In my previous job, I told my Boss we should work on A first then B, He disagrees with me saying B is more important, and we should work on B first. Several weeks later, B is not working well, and he started focus working on A. As an INTJ this kind of treatment burn me out, I go along with your plan, I spend my energy to think any possible way to make your plan work, and you suddenly change the plan. Never working with someone like this again...
can confirm, the most enjoyable work for me as an INTJ is the work I did for myself
I'm an INTJ male with a very successful career in a design oriented business where I manage teams of up to 40 staff. I am *very* high on introversion, but sometimes to get ahead you have to break through that (even if it's hard). I have managed mentored multiple MBTI types and learned something different from each. It's important to remember that your MBTI is your natural preference, but it is not a cage. You learn by being out of your comfort zone, but don't jump too far in one go. I love my job by the way (The day job, not the TH-cam Channel I run to help realise my daughter's dreams (but that's fun too!!)
I worked as a cellular switching engineer for 20 years. Everyone wanted to work the day shift so they could have a night life, but I always volunteered to work the night shift, because it meant I could work alone, when it was quiet and no one else was around. I did that for several years, in fact. It meant no rush hour, being able to go to the supermarket when no one was there, or doing other things when everyone else was at work, or going to the last showing of a movie on a Sunday night, when the theater was completely empty because everyone else was in bed because they had to go to work Monday morning. Heaven!
I was able to get all the nightly work done usually within two hours, and then had the rest of the night to do whatever I wanted - which usually meant writing or reading - unless something went wrong with the equipment, and then I focused on resolving that. The majority of the time, the problems were easy to fix, and then I could get back to my own thing.
I'd even volunteer to write maintenance procedures for the office or similar things, since I liked to write. Given the field, that made it essentially technical writing.
But doing things like retail, where you have to interface with people all the time, or customer service, or anything like that?! *UGH!* Absolutely not. Just thinking about those things makes me cringe.
I'm happy as a Chef in my kitchen with my carrots
Who doesn't love a good carrot
Recently discovered I was an INTJ and that my friends were either INTJs or INFJs. I studied Law (which I hated), then learned to program and started companies which makes me an entrepreneur kind of. I think that's the best fit for INTJs regarding ambition/independence, it's very stimulating and filled with challenges.
I understand how that feels. I studied Law because my parents wanted me to. I'm happy you're doing what makes you happy. Best of luck to your new endeavours.
I work from home the more autonomous the better . When I have to do the mundane line by line stuff I’m usually brushing up on my language skills or listening to a physics/psychology podcast at the same time so it’s not a bad experience . And I feel very lucky . But be warned once you are autonomous the thought of going back to a constrained 9-5 will fill you with fear . 😀
I agree as an INTJ programmer wfh is heaven. I don't wanna go back pre pandemic. Haha
Yep, good advice. My worst jobs were database manager and intern for a state-run union. For the past 18 years I've been an event manager in the arts and culture field. Taking someone else's bag of wishes and making it a reality. Except weddings, I try to stay away from weddings. Too many emotions. Many people assume that an introvert would be bad at event planning, but we are actually the very best because we look, listen, think and (as an INTJ) intuitively understand flow (which is a rare trait). The best events are were I'm not noticed - because everything worked, and it wasn't about me in the first place.
I understand your points about working for myself and have cycled between working for others and for myself a few times over the years. What I learned about myself, that is probably the case for other INTJ, is that even though I have more flexibility working for myself, it came with a host of tasks I did not want and didn't want to find someone else to handle for me. I want to focus on my area of expertise, not prospecting for clients, dealing with payroll and taxes, office space, and gazillion extrovert tasks. Finally found my niche in a mega-corp that appreciates my idiosyncrasies and pays me well to employ my knowledge base for them. Just a perspective why an intj may prefer not ri work for themself.
Thanks for the comment Shawn. I'm doing research for my next career move. What's the job title of your new position?
I agree. I hated prospecting for clients, having to sell myself over and over, networking for clients. I'm glad I found out early on it wasn't for me
I'm an INTJ-T and I've been a Cop for 21 years. It is a love/hate relationship and probably not the ideal profession for an INTJ. I'd say it takes a lot more out of me than other types. I spend my days off trying to "recharge" but it's still not enough time. Parts of the job come naturally and others don't. I only have 8 years to retirement, otherwise I'd quit in a heart beat! I'd advise other INTJ'S to stay away.
I want to be an author. I want to write fiction novels, because it fits how I work best.
The problem is that I recognize that there's a very high chance that it won't earn enough money to support a future family.
So I have an issue where I know what I really want to do with my life, but at the same time I'm stressing out at the overwhelming possibility that it's not going to be enough.
Same. I always wonder if something I really want to will be a realistic career choice.
Ha ha! I am an INTJ and I lead a team of INTJs (3 guys and one woman) and what you describe at 2:10 is what we do all the time. And we have been working together well for years and everyone recognizes us as one of the best teams in the organization. Not just typing data, but organizing it in different, useful ways.
Just the idea of working a customer service job sounds like hell on earth.
As an INTJ, I can wholeheartedly say that my favourite job that I have worked thus far has been as a hotel night auditor.
That’s what my favorite writer, also an INTJ, did. And when it was quiet, he worked on his books.
This is my dream job
I worked in a hotel with day+night shifts. The boss was a crazy psycho, but she only showed up for 1 hour a day. I planned my whole working day and night there, I played the piano when the guests went away, I learned French, I drew, I listened to an audiobooks, I exercised, I'd never been so productive even at home as I was there. Plus, I made the most money my shifts, cause I followed people via messages and emails until they finally completed booking and paid for their rooms cause I simply hated unfinished lists of booking. The connection with people was at the minimum, just meet them, give the keys and help with breakfast.
@@SupineReverie Is it Brandon Sanderson by any chance?
@@r.a.l.27 hahaha it is
I can relate so much to the *SI Work* (Line by line office work) I did Data Entry as a job & it was by far the worst/boring/repetitive job I have ever done in my life. The only way I survived was putting headphones in & listening to AudioBooks & Podcasts to keep my mind active
I always wondered why i love this too.
Did retail for 5 whole years. Still amazed how as an INTJ I didn’t get fired. Still so glad I finally quit this year lol.
I bet more than half of the people who say that they are INTJ are not. That and INFJ are the most mistyped types out there. Everyone thinks, "I'm very analytical. I'm logical. I'm into ideas....therefore I'm INTJ." That's not how it works. If you're really INTJ then you're in your head so much that you don't notice that the phone is ringing. You don't notice that you have a stain on the shirt that you've been wearing for the past 3 days. You don't want to go outside and do stuff because it's just not worth your time and it's boring. When one of your few friends calls you, you don't want to answer the phone because you hate chit-chat, and you don't want to hear about their problems.
Yes exactly, and certainly if you're imbalanced.
As a meticulous INTJ I’m afraid I must vehemently disagree with the “stain on your shirt” assertion. Being sloppy is not being INTJ. Everything else you said was spot on though.
@Shimohira Reika that's a real rank and file intj
Hmm yeaa i dont like being an intj .
I agree except for the phone ringing point. Sure, I won’t hear a person calling my name, but I’ll definitely hear that wretched ringtone no matter which world I’m in. It gives me anxiety.
My career pathway would be: Law (currently studying) >> Masters Degree >> Diplomat public examinations >> Public Official.
I found that I'm a natural polyglot. Not the best out there, but still good enough. Likewise, I like interacting with important people and I'm not afraid of talking in front of a public.
I believe that Diplomats do have some freedom albeit they work under the supervision of a higher-ranking public official (Ambassador) and ultimately, the Government.
During the summer seasons, I work as a receptionist. I don't want to dedicate my life to the tourism sector.
Anything that has to do with a large volume of physical paperwork is bad for an INTJ. I had a job where my main job was to open mail mail and respond or file it. It was a nightmare not only to have to deal with so much paperwork, but keep it organized as well.
Oh for sure. Si... ew lol
Worked in a crowded & fast paced web agency, hated it to the point of having health issues. Now I am a freelance software developer, working from home at my own conditions, best decision of my life!
My intj girlfriend is a small business owner making films. She’s awesome
I'm an engineer but unfortunately I have to deal with people and it's really tiring and unpleasant
neat video!! i also find that INTJs usually crave jobs which are constantly present with new problems to solve while NOT being bogged down by the boring repetitive sensory details. This is why i never quite understand the career stereotype associating INTJs with academic wet lab researching fields, when research itself is FILLED with repetitive sensory data inputs that may ultimately not yield much fruitful analysis because of /one/ tiny mistake in the experiment somewhere + don't get me started with the tedious, tedious process of applying for grants filled with paperworks + putting your works through the grind of 10+ edit sessions just for the chance of publication *shudders*
Yes! I totally feel the same way. I find the editing processing rather tedious and have no patience to do it over and over again!
If anybody comes to this comment....I wanna share my story...I graduated around COVID with computer science degree I didn't wanna be a software guy, I didn't specialise in one thing instead I tried my hands on different tech, Basically covid was my cue to be unconventional in my learning and I have worked a shit job for 1.5 yrs, an inner voice kept telling me that I am missing the opportunity to do what I needed to do... so i quit my job took time to learn aggressively and started to apply to jobs... now I am again in a shit job ...which I don't care to lose guess what ...I know where meaningful work lies and it might take some time ... but I will come out the gates a champion because I am one and I am blessed to have the skills I have the mindset that I have and I am winning right as I comment this. Hashtag manifestation
This was very helpful for me as a young INTJ. Although I study at vocational high school of art (different education system) so I already chose a path, sometimes it seemed more like sensory and not really creative so it wasn't 100% for me before. But after I found MBTI I realized why it was actually perfect for me. I like it because it connects creative with technical and that's great for an INTJ. You could make a video about INTJs and creativity. Something on reddit about whatever careers we may choose, we'll always be creative.
I love that idea!
Everything is such a matter of perspective :)
I am without a doubt an INTJ and the most successful job I had was being a car salesman for 6 years. I came in 22nd in the nation in top sales in 2016 in the brand I sold. More INTJ's should try sales.
İNTJ and sales?
@@time_to_sleep12 ... I understand that on the surface it seems counterintuitive, but one area that INTJ's flourish is being a consultant. Learning a product, consulting clients about that product, and then getting a large commission for assisting that client in making a well informed purchase is right up and INTJ's alley.
As a INTJ woman, I'm back at school to be self-employed. Bosses, rules and teams hold me back. Collective progress is slow and deficient. I've never turned to colleagues to fulfill my social life. Beyond sharing tasks, we have nothing in common. It took me 20 years to realize the job I need doesn't exist, but I can create it. The dojo is a boys' club where I fit right in. I don't enjoy working with mostly women. However, I would hesitate to work again with mostly men : 1) the trouble with enjoying male company is that it's not mutual. I'm not recognized as one of the boys. 2) I would fear harassment or worse. If I go into a real-life situation thinking I'll need my martial arts, I'd rather avoid it altogether.
WOW! I just landed on your video and have to say that this was the best way to deliver a valuable affirmation! Boy the time we waste second-guessing ourselves when truly settling on a career track.
Glad you found this beneficial Ralph!
I play poker for a living and as an INTJ it's just the best
No way that’s awesome! The ISTP who’s often on my channel is a great poker player.
@@InternetLiJo it's literally 90% intuition based
I believe there are two approaches - intuitive dominants focus on intuitive cues. Sensory dominants study :)
Poker or trading are excellent for INTJs, I don't play poker but I do trade markets which involves in having a strategical mindset figuring out different methodologies, analyzing, researching, planning. I see life as a chess game:)
Real estate investor, barbershop, laundromat owner and dividend stocks
Hey, I'm a fellow INTJ in a deep crisis. I really don't know how to turn my life around.
I would like to find a job that gives me a sense of fulfillment, but I can't feel a sense of satisfaction for anything.
I can't feel anything anymore, that's the thing!
I don't know if it's just my depression at this point, and I don't even know if anyone can relate to me.
Even though INTJs are not really known for their emotional side, for me, not feeling anything is a real torture. I feel basically already dead and I'm just at the end of my twenties.
If anyone can help (somehow), I'll try to help him/her concretely in turn.
I hope things became much better for you in this year my friend.
@@shriefallam8866 Thank you so much for the really kind words, brother :)
Unfortunately, practically nothing has improved in my life.
I still feel nothing (emotionally) and just feel more tired than last year (physically).
It might sound like a bit of a conspiracy theory, but I actually feel VERY different since I got vaccinated for COVID, and not for the better.
I'm convinced that we need pragmatic and realistic solutions to improve people's lives, otherwise things obviously stay the same.
i've had a pretty wild and interesting road to finally be in what i feel like is my landing place now...
i studied finance in college and did internships in investment banking. one day, i just walked out and said f*ck this. everyone was miserable. they kept us there until midnight or 1am every night and on weekends. i was so stressed out i couldn't even breathe. being pulled in 5 different directions, never getting a chance to sit down and have some time to get stuff done.
i then went back to college my senior year not knowing what the hell to do w my life b/c finance was my plan, so i joined an acting class and went to therapy, lol. did acting for a few years and really spent 2-3 years really exploring myself and going a bit off the grid. i wanted to let go of everything that i felt so attached to. all the while i was teaching tennis.
then i left acting because i started to miss the intellectual challenge and work. i tried programming for 6 months, stopped. tried trading for 6 months but stopped because didn't see a way where i could work for myself.
kept teaching tennis all the while, and finally, 6 months ago, started a copywriting business. working on getting it off the ground right now but am SO excited. the work involves a lot of research on a product (for the company you are writing a, for instance, sales letter for) and then a lot of research on the target audience, and then it's up to you to report all of the benefits of the product in an irresistible way. it might seem crappy because it's technically sales, but it's awesome because it's writing! i don't have to deal with people haha. and i get to craft these beautiful pieces. it is the perfect fit for me AND just as important, allows me to work for myself and be anywhere in the world! and make really good money!
took me a while...but i feel in a great place now and ready to take off and become the best copywriter in the world. i'm 27, so yeah, like i said, late start, but i'll have my 10,000 hours by the time i'm 32/33, not bad.
cheers, fellow intjs. follow your intuition
6 months later, i dont do copywriting anymore.
I’m an INTJ and I work in Data management for my local fisheries so line by line sensory doesn’t bother me 😂 however I do have a lot of flexibility in how I go about doing my work and my supervisor is understanding and gives me space. I don’t think I’ll be here forever but database experience is valuable and the building I’m in offers other opportunities for field work and travel which I enjoy. As an INTJ I value a work environment that is functional so that I have the ability to strategize in the way I see fit. When things are nonsensical I get aggravated and unproductive.
Being told what to do...when to do it..and how much to do to be productive makes me miserable. Unfortunately more and more this is how work works. I had a couple managers that learned that if they let me go and do it my way I'd get more done than following their guidelines.
A great job for a INTJ in a creative/design field is - "Technical Designer" in the fashion industry. The designer creates the design.... Once that style is ordered by a retailer, your job as a technical designer is to develop the clothing patterns through measurements, choose the right sewing construction and make sure it's implemented correctly through mass production.
Interesting!!
At least for me the beeing your own boss thing is not even about money, it's about my boss simply not beeing good enought to do what we should do as a company and is actively hindering progression. I don't want to be a boss or a owner of a company in any ways, but I want to be on a place that is actualy trying to improve
And at least for me,I search an very time-structured job. It helps me to organize an schedual, deadlines and my own time. When the job happens to have to many urgent demands it kills me
So many INTJ truths here.
Thanks to you and everyone in the comments I discovered after so many years that I want to be a translator, I feel comfortable doing this, it feels natural and I'm excited.
I say this because I studied as an architect and I wasn't able to work a little more alone, so I worked many times among groups of loud people 😅 so I really didn't enjoy being an architect and to follow everyone's rules and humilliation at work (here in Mexico, humilliation in work places is kind of normalized) so finally I discovered being a translator is something I want and can do.
Thank you very much!
Finally set out on my own as an editor the past few months-REALLY set out on my own. Master-planning my own business, trying things out, doing things my way, is a delight.
One thing I’ve had to come to terms with: while I’ve been praised for being detail-oriented and have indeed done a good job proofreading, that’s not actually my strongest point. Too much of it leaves me bored and less effective. I need to pursue more developmental and line editing. It’s harder to break into, and the pay is higher (so I feel more pressure), but it’s where I’ll excel as I gain more experience and confidence. I might be better with grammar details than many are, but that doesn’t mean I should spend every day focusing on them.
Sound like you feel a level of responsibility to it - which is great. 💯
yoo i just started a copywriting business. working for yourself is the only way to go! cool to hear that other intj's feel the same way. cheers to writing!
It was a great relief to see that you didn't mention a long list of "jobs" or "professions" that could be good for this type of personality.
As many of your followers, I'm an INTJ. The funny part is that my profession has nothing to do with the stereotype. However, I think that my plans for the future, and the way I want to use my knowledge is what makes me an INTJ
Yes, the future is always what moves us forward ;)
IT Administrator as a day job - Love it, helping out in a restaurant as front of house part time (my family business) - Hate it.
INTJ, self-employed bookkeeper. Your comment about line-by-line work hits home. I'm really good at it, but I hate doing it - unless it's something really interesting. So I find myself specializing in books that have been trashed.
There you go!
I have had many jobs in my life and as soon as I mastered the skills of the job I was bored and wanted to move on and was unhappy in my job I never work anywhere where I am in a happy it was not until I found a job where I could learn unlimited skills for the rest of my life and not learned everything about the job I became a union stagehand loved it and thrived, I had difficulty dealing with the large crowd at times but the benefits far outweigh anyting
what job is that?
Very on point. Worked in accounting, went into sales/business development for autonomy and to be not as detail oriented, now in fintech (specifically in product) and everyday is just so different and I love it...im like a human Swiss Army knife now but took tons of risks/trial and error to get there. I didn’t even know my current career existed and I finally found something I can literally do forever. Wish you made this video four years ago haha.
INTJ's ability for long term planning comes in handy if you are breeding plants (or animals) professionally. Great job if you like biology and genetics.
I was very close to getting my masters in nutrient biochemistry! Love it.
Lol, I was nearly a self taught botanist at one time. The plants were amazing.. it seems I plan things but dont realize i plan them in my head.
You dealt with this the intj way without mentioning any particular careers yet so apt, detailed and necessary. Everything you said applies to me and I have figured it out since like junior high naturally like you said
I am an artist, woodcarver and furniture maker. I have my own studio and wood shop. For a good while I did commission work but the interaction with people nit picking me to death on their intricate wishes and desires was killer. It was not the nit picking that was hard. It was the interacting with the customers and all the mind numbing small talk that came with it that made it intolerable. Now I don't do commissions. I make what I want with no interaction and sell what sells. It is less lucrative but far more worth it mentally for me. I don't advertise or deal with marketing because I never really had to. It just kind of worked out when I was commissioned by a woman who was a coroner. She recommended me to other doctors and they continued the cycle. I feel like I have been fortunate because I don't really do well in traditional work environments. I've taken various personality tests and my results always come in INTJ. I've never done a test I paid for though, only the free ones offered online.
this is ABSOLUTELY WHY i have decided to teach for a lifelong career. 01 - i DO NOT CARE about making loads of money. 02 - while teaching DOES have some guided structure, it ALSO allows you to DO THINGS IN YOUR OWN WAY. 03 - it ALSO is extraordinarily powerful in preparing others for the future.
Beware fellow.. depending on what school system you are in, your freedoms as an instructor may be VERY limited.. test scores equate to funding for schools, not teaching our youth how to think.. just teaching them how to score well.
In the public school environment, freedom is NON-existent anymore. I returned to teaching math bc I had to sell my dance studio (pandemic 😖). I am the most miserable I’ve ever been in my life. Kids are worse, leadership is moronic, no freedom to teach. Don’t. Do. It.
I'm a mom of 2. I'm planning like crazy because I don't want to send my children to school in middle school and maybe even high school in 5 years. I may need to homeschool or make enough money to hire a tutor. I work at a school. Teachers are amazing; kids are getting worse and parents are becoming more demanding. Right now, I can't see how this system is sustainable. Also, my children are like me, so the behaviors would be a huge distraction to their learning.
@rocknrollfawn...
im currently (forcibly, early) retired due to having been in a 2012 car wreck that VERY NEARLY KILLED me and left me with a traumatic brain injury. my life has been nearly nonstop recovery since then and, i HIGHLY DOUBT that ill EVER return to the regular working-world.
SADLY...
i couldnt POSSIBLY teach in a public school - NO WAY, NO HOW. too damn many 'rules and regulations'
instead, i was teaching at a local non-profit where >>>>>>> I
As an INTJ with an I not so far away from an E, I have worked happily as a doctor for 40 years.
I am starting psychiatry residency this July. Med school is a great path for INTJs who are willing to endure the initial pain of learning the intricate workplace social order and interpersonal skills. Overall, really forced me to grow in that way. The intellectual/academic aspects were, at least compared to many of my friends, effortless and fascinating.
I once worked a dirty job to stay employed thru the winter in the hort industry. I sorted plant labels in 'the label-rack-room', an unheated shed with mouse droppings & spiders. I worked alone for the most part, which was cool, and I listened to my radio station which played baroque music & I was ok with this as there was an end in sight. And I like mice & spiders don't scare me & I know to wear gloves...BUT...some guy co-worker would barge in, snap off my soothing music, say 'you can't be that depressed' & switch on Howard Stern whom I find offensive. Well, purgatory became hell.
also, took a career test during midlife. I am an INTJ & was thinking of a career change from horticulture & tested high for occupational therapy. The proctor said she found an unusual correlation btw nursing & horticulture. Nurses looking for a career change landed in hort & hort heads landed in nursing. Maybe it's a nurturing thing or it's seeing a problem & working thru it to a better future.
For the time being, I'm working at the Home Depot as a "Lot Associate". I'm the guy that gathers the carts and loads/unloads peoples vehicles. It's not a glamorous job, and I work in the Florida heat and humidity, but no one bothers me for the most part, and I can focus on what I'm doing, without getting constantly interrupted by customers wanting me to answer questions I neither know the answer to, nor care about.
I get asked "don't you want to work inside in the air conditioning?" Nope, because I know how aggravated I'll get by the customers. I'm working on getting passive income and remote work, possibly some contract labor on the side.
A good INTJ career would be trading it's a very challenging area at the start not everyone succeeds but if you actually put your effort it can be extremely rewarding and potentially give you financial freedom, it will help you stay focused, make the use of new strategies, analyzing charts, planning, researching markets, a lot of successful traders are INTJs
I'll add to some of the sentiments shared before about creative fields being really ideal for INTJs. I've been a musician/performer/arranger/producer for my whole professional life and I couldn't imagine any other way to be. We might have Fi but music is such a release for that, which is scary at first but really damn liberating once you tap into your power as an introverted intuitive. We're like fucking Gandalf yall. The production side of my job has technical, theoretical, and creative synergy that can't be beat. I feel I'm living a 100% engaged, authentic life which is so important. As for working with other people, you're NEVER forced to work with people you don't like, in fact it creates a better product if you only work with the people you trust and vibe with. Spend my whole days in my own studio. It's really nice.
I'm an INTJ and am in the military as an Information Systems Technician, and have been for 20 years. Once I retire (soon), I am pursuing an entrepreneurial business, and am looking to start a couple of companies. Tired of working for someone and getting paid less than I'm worth, so I'll be my own boss.
I'd love to get to know you on a prifessional level...I am becoming an ethical hacker through a military organisation :)
As a “fluffy” feeler (INFP), I always have admired the clear directness of xNTJs. I am who I am and I get s41t done ✅ vibe, systems thinking / innovators is a big strength (however it is applied). Personally, I’m more focused on the how (process) individuals think / feel / perceive / problem solve etc than the actual tangible “real world” results. My question is, what Human Resources would you think would enable the most effective support for xNTJs?
Software development and a scientist is the best. Pays the best too.
P.S.- I'm one in making
I plan to be a teacher, I think it's because of the INTJ's interest towards helping people grow and reach their potential as effeciently as possible.
You will hate it. I guarantee you. Being a Teacher is being a social worker nowadays. INTJ aren't build for that and on top of it, it will not satisfy your hunger for more knowledge as you will deal with and have to repeat the same low level, content every semesters for the rest of your career. This will bore you to no end.
@@Juicexlx spot on. Can't relate more
@@Juicexlx well a teacher here probably an INTJ. At some point you are wrong. If you are innovating your techniques of teaching you will be bored. You are somewhat right that teaching nowadays have become like corporate sector. People in authorities want you to teach their way which is very very frustrating .. but above all you have a strong desire for for teaching you will be able to overcome all obstructions of your personality. Teaching leads you to hunger more for knowledge.
I was genuinely looking for this comment....
@@Juicexlxohhh I hate to concur but after 21 years as a hs English teacher, the struggle is indeed real!!!!! I resigned three times over that span of time before I said adios at the end of 2021 school year after Covid. Still trying to find my jam….🤔
My worst job experience was in a call center. Telemarketing.
It was in 2018 but sometimes I still have nightmares with that place.
So i am very new to MBTI test and finding out i am an full bred 100% INTJ. understanding my mind has helped me connect so many dots in my life and provided so much relief. I am excited to continue with this new information although it does seem challenging to live in a world not designed for you. I have no idea how i did it but everything you said i accidently got at my job, except the innovation. I was starting to feel trapped knowing other companies wouldn't make me happy but now that i know and understand what requirements i need to feel my best, i know what to look for. This channel and the INTJ world is helping me so much, thank you. Any more tips on how to get along better with people either platonically or romantically as an INTJ i would welcome.
Welcome! You’ve found the others 👽
I worked at open office for 3 months, it was my first and last office job. It was pretty awful, higher ups were unorganized and irresponsible, I was literally doing work of 3 people and I was underpaid (had to clean up lots of mess my higher ups and colleagues made which is mainly reason I quit the job)
I recently left an office job i hated also. Just studying/learning every day but unemployed. What do you do now?
@@GearsDemon Learning, coding and blogging.
@@dragonarch0 hilariously enough I just started a blog. I left that job I hated a little over a month ago. I've also been reading up on HTML/Python. That's great :D
@@GearsDemon We need to connect now. I am learning Python/ C++
INTJ I've been a 911 dispatcher for 12 years. I like it, it's organized chaos that I can control. I have recieved accolades. It's rewarding and not a "norm" job at all. I do rub my coworkers the wrong way because I am a control freak and not as friendly with them.
Oh wow!!
I find it interesting that you suggest steering clear of jobs that require creating lists and reports. I work in finance, and find the Ad Hoc projects and “fire drill” situations- where quick thinking on your feet is the only method to get the job done- to be the most pleasurable and engaging activity I participate in, at work. Additionally, I prefer the challenge of figuring out in those moments how to get the job done with the least amount of effort by my team and I, and how to fully utilize the tools at our disposal to accomplish that goal.
In this regard, I love and appreciate these Si tasks. Perhaps because it’s so outside of my natural/automatic method of thinking. I become this energetic and motivational leader that simultaneously commends my teams’ hard work while pushing them to be better, faster, and smarter. I’ve had many bosses comment about this “team leader” attitude over the years; they don’t see it coming from me, because I usually hiss and hard pass when I’m selected to do any kind of leadership. But when I choose it, I become some kind of intense force. And the people who would usually scold me or call me overbearing or controlling in these situations fall right in line because, apparently, my drive and excitement for challenge is infectious.
It’s all just very interesting...
Remote Senior Risk and Compliance analyst for Fintechs. Don’t deal much with people. Work with processes and regulation. Get to go for numerous certifications and grow in so many avenues. Love my career. Also Fintechs always evolve and require innovation.
Air Traffic Controller here. Absolutely love it. No two days are the same, keeps me engaged with a moving puzzle that I have to solve rather quickly. Personal life on the other hand can be summed up with two words; People suck!
Now that’s a very cool job!
Moises Cespedes I considered this when I was young but was turned off when I heard it was a very stressful job. Can you speak on the validity of this??
I considered going into ATC, but the FAA isn’t a fan of ADHD and... yeah.
Starting real estate business was the best thing I ever did!
Awesome!
Sapphire Sky It really is, but it’s not the reason to stop ourselves (INTJs) from achieving big things, I’m awkward I say things that make people go hmmm.. sometimes, but I don’t lose self confidence over it, I just don’t care lol, Level of perception of someone else is not my responsibility, I also think with age (I’m 33) INTJs get more rounded, but of curse my social battery is alway limited and there is also a healthy limit of how much time spend around others lol
Real estate?! You have to really enjoy talking to people on and off the phone frequently, attend social events. This’s not suitable for INTJ; I’d rather be a SECRET agent.
I'd like to see a list of jobs for intj's that don't require a college degree.
Software developer without a doubt. You can learn everything online, it's very complex and abstract and the pay is excellent. Plus you can shift your interests a lot if you get bored. Of course you have to actually be good in it.
i work for a company that inspects/repairs/builds powerlines with the use of helicopters. ive never gone to college, but i did go to trade school, for plumbing, got paid for it too. i literally just showed up, applied, they told me to come back for the interview, and then continued telling me to come back. and its by far the best job ive ever had.
ive always been a huge aviation nerd, so getting to fly around all day, sometimes at a snails pace though, is just the greatest thing to me.
I have held really anti-intj jobs in reception / admin for years. They are dull but they're not the worst thing around. At least I get to stay clean and work in an air-conditioned environment. For me what really makes a job good or insufferable is the employees around and above me. Work with good people and it all feels worth it, work with toxic mofos or useless people and have violent fantasies about ending them lol. I still don't know what to do with my life. All I really want to do is make dogs happy and learn random things.
It's the useless people that really get to me
I’m currently a SAHM which I am actually not a fan of. Of course my childhood dreams were a cop ( I was young so more like CSI) my parents didn’t like that so my dreams moved to paleontology/archeology and of course they didn’t like that either. I pursued art and barrel racing all through high school (which I excelled at) and landed a full ride at Kansas City for graphic design and my parents again were like “no, why would you want to do that?!” I settled on pursuing a DVM (because I love horses and dogs) but of course that was short lived because the college I started at was in my home town ( ie I was still living at home) and could not focus on studies, taking care of my parents priorities and my (6 years) younger sister. I’ve had a slew of jobs I’ve hated (retail, waitress, secretary, logistics, bartender, newspaper editor) and I can’t say I’ve had one that I truly enjoyed. I’m still completely infatuated with criminal justice and now I pretty consumed with physical fitness. I, of course, still love my horses but not all INTJs eventually fall into the career they’re meant for. At least it hasn’t happened for me and I’m 34.
I'll believe you'll fall in there eventually :)
im an intj female and i could agree more with that fact that we love to plan or how can we do a certain idea. im a baker and i really love it. when my costumer send me picture of the cake they want me to make, i will start planning on how to do it, check ingredients, what time to start which step, plan ahead on what might happen wrong and what to do just incase. i work alone i prefer that way. it frustrates me to see someone do something which i know myself i do it faster and better. im kind of a perfectionist. i dont sell which i dont like. my costumer still sending me inquiries even though im on temporary on halt in baking, my priority as of now raising my son, he is 1 and i will surely be back in business when he is 3 or starting to go to school
Good looking out. I’m 49% Extroverted and 51% Introverted and this really actually put things more in perspective for me. A good friend of mine is a ISTJ I’m a INTJ and he often times confuses people’s Auxiliary functions. Due some times to a one tract minded world view.
You might actually be ANTJ, which is a mix of intj and entj
Damion Michael Interesting.
Making someone else money is a way for us to test our theories and refine ourselves using so done else's money? Especially if you seek to start your own business it means you can move on to do it for yourself after running simulations.
Yes totally. Haha that’s kind of what I was referring to when I said it takes us a bit to get comfortable in the sensory.
My worst job was being a receptionist. I could not Se for that long. Or Si. It was the worst! My best job was being a Phlebotomist & finding shortcuts to getting supplies, test results, & streamlining the workflow to benefit the patients the most. I would always find the fastest ways to get from one area of the hospital to the next testing center for the patient. One time, I even bought a patient food just so he could recover from his fasting glucose test faster when the test was over. I really miss this job.
What happened?
@@t5396 So my receptionist job was nice. It just didn't work for me because I could not pay attention to the present moment for so long. I kept wanting to anticipate future events to streamline my workflow. It didn't work because the phone rang endlessly. One of the worst things you can to got get an INTJ fired (or to quit like I did) is to give them too much work & not enough time to plan out the best way of doing it. The workflow there made me feel like I was drinking from a fire hydrant. Also, I never had any breaks. I would get back from lunch (lunch was an hour) & already had one or two people demanding to be seen right now ( the office had just opened) & I still needed to clock-in. It was very annoying to have three people in front of me demanding undivided attention while I had three calls on hold with people also demanding attention RIGHT NOW. I just don't function well in the RIGHT NOW all the time. I would rather deal with ideas than people directly. Which is why I'm back in school to be a Physician Assistant. That way I decide how much time I give people & then I also get to be sort of my own boss. I would still have to work with a doctor. I also want to specialize in Endocrinology so I can help people plan out their FUTURE workout & eating habits. I really do want to help people. Just not in RIGHT NOW mode all the time.
@@anasaucedo100 I see. Just be careful with endocrinology. I have a condition, Hashimoto's, that endocrinologists are supposed to know how to manage but they are often ill-equipped to handle.
I have to see a functional medical doctor for proper treatment. I hope it works out for you.
Just keep in mind that not everything you learn in medical school, for instance, is the best information, and that you may need to look elsewhere for the right answers.
Wow I commend you for the Se/Si required for reception! What a growing experience!
Thanks for sharing your experience -- it was very helpful to me!
Hi LiJo! I literally had this moment when I realized that you only capture between 0.1% - 2% of the economic impact you create, and that's when I decided that I'm definitely working for myself as soon as possible. Also, could you please touch base on practical tactics to manage yourself when you're working for yourself? Thanks!!!!
Great suggestion! I will look at that as a potential upcoming vid!
Been working in a restaurant as a dishwasher since college, if was fast-paced which irritates me and boring as hell if there's no customers.
Kevin! Where do you want to go from here?
I choose graphic design , because I like creating things by my own
I work as the chef in one of the busiest restaurants in my city, in an open kitchen. Very noisy. What do I like about it? It’s my own private fiefdom, I organize chaos on a daily basis, I mentor a bunch of incompetent but well meaning young folks (some of whom smoke way more weed than they should, drives me crazy), and it sometimes feels like it’s the last place in America you can speak your mind. I don’t have to listen to other peoples uninformed opinions, I can just tell them to go away. Downside? The front of the house is generally terrified of me, and will only speak to my sous if there’s an issue. Can’t imagine why, I’ve only ever yelled twice in my twenty year career.
People have ideas, INTJ's have the Thing, which is idea that has INTJ's.
I love the Thing and the process the Thing takes me. Being in the Process with my Thing is Nirvana. I would be lost and Life would be meaningless without the Thing in my life.
Even though my current job is not necessarily my Thing, it is a necessary step in the Master Plan that gets me closer to my Thing, which so far has occupied years of my life and will occupy an estimated 3-5 more years in order to reach the goal. Thankfully, I have Patience as a superpower.
The Thing that has me now is preparing for vanlife.
Piece work, is awesome.
I was told right away this is the machine, this is the job, and once you learn it, this is the potential rate. Works perfect, no problem.
2:04 I quite enjoyed a job I had analyzing data and making reports, because, as a computer programmer, I was able to automate much of my work. No one told me to do my job that way. It was my own idea.