More realistically, the guy could have just sold a ton of coke to his classmates, it was Harvard in the 80s after all. Could have bought a house right next to his daddy after graduation too.
I brought this movie up with a 25yo that I work with and he said it doesn't look any worse than RDJ in Tropic Thunder. I tried to explain the difference but he felt I was just making excuses for one over the other.
So... a "comedy" about some "my rich daddy" douche bro who gets a grant... by being black cuz 1. He's awful at handling money (probably his dad's) and 2. daddy wants to bring the "value of a dollar" to his son... but is probably a bit late for it. While Tropic Thunder has Kirk Lazarus, an Australian method actor (e.i. an actor who'll get awards by pretending to be: a required physicality: starved and lanky or ripped muscle man, be gay, be transexual, middle eastern, have ridiculous accents or even be retarded (but not full retard, cuz we gotta have that romanticized magic retard feels). And in universe of the film, people are concerned of his level of method acting insanity.
Soul Man would go on to revert back to being white, move to New York City, become a crane operator, and help Spider-Man get through the city so he could stop the Lizard.
@Jerryberry boopboop THANK YOU!!! people think everything was just open season back in the day.. We had people literally trying to cancel the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles back in the 1980s...
@Jerryberry boopboop it’s because this wouldn’t be made today at all. regardless if it was accepted back in the day they still made shit like this😂 but I understand what u mean
True. Even "The Toy" with Richard Pryor was controversial for similar reasons back in the day, but still became a cult favorite with kids who grew up watching it in the 80s.
Mark was a villain. Even seeing it at the theater in my early teens I remember watching and hoping to see him get caught and suffer consequences, but being disappointed that he got off so easily.
So, we couldn't get cable when I was a kid, living in the woods lol...so we'd just buy a bunch of movies....I remember my dad coming home with THIS gem, and I was watching it like..."Umm, is this okay? Can he do this?" ...The answer was no lol
In my head canon, The Hitcher takes place after the events of Soul Man... and Howell is trying to escape the shame of that incident...kinda makes Rutger Hauers character a lot more sympathetic.
Hollywood shuffle succeeded where this tripe failed. Just because your intentions are good doesn't mean your execution's gonna be flawless. Heck Gene wilder did a better job in 4 minutes than this movie did in an hour and 45
@@flbphotography2239 apparently you have not seen their later interview about it. They are embarrassed cause as they got older they saw it in a different light
C. Thomas is in "ET," but not as the big brother. That dude's named Robert Naughton or something like that. C. Thomas plays one of his friends, who's in the big bike scene.
I remember this movie. I was confused as to why he had blackface (keep in mind I was 3 then plus my mom watched shit ton of movies too). Once I saw this again when I was a little older (in my teens then). I was like oh hell naw.🤣🤣🤣
I remember watching this movie when it came out. I don't remember this movie being a bad movie. I actually remember thinking the movie was good. I was in elementary school at the time so I wasn't thinking "omg, this is racist." 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Its pretty bad but I think the discussion he has at the end with the professor is great. Im convinced James Earl Jones had some say in what was said in that scene cause its so much more profound than the rest of the movie lol
This movie came out when I was a teen. I watched it as an adult. As a white person, the "comedy" of the stereotypes were stupid to me. It did put forth a very important message of empathy and walking in someone else's shoes. These are the most profound points I got out of this movie: 1- He listened to racial jokes by idiots, and started to be affected by them--to the point of punching one of the idiots telling offensive jokes in the face--yes!! 2- When he got pulled over by the police, he thought it was no big deal until he ended up in jail--for nothing--which is what black people have been telling us forever---literally!!! 3- James Earl Jones says he felt dude learned more from this experience than any class could teach him--dude acknowledges--he couldn't touch the real Black American experience. Why? Because he could get out of his "black" skin. That was incredibly profound. 4- He was super scared of losing Rae Dawn Chong cuz he wasn't sure if she forgave him-or if she could love him. To me, this movie taught me a lot about paying attention to the little micro-aggresions that Black people experience--and have talked about forever.
I remember seeing this as a kid and my parents telling me that C. Thomas Howell and rae dawn chong were actually married in real life, but they had divorced.
I used to feel for C. Thomas Howell, because I know that He took a MASSIVE HIT for doing this, but then again, He made the choice to take the Role. He likely needed it, but it didn't help Him at all. Well, at least they wound up making that one Movie in the 90's Livin Large, where T.C. Carson kinda did it in reverse. Kinda did it in reverse.
The film that effectively killed C. Thomas Howell's career! Although, he did get to met his first wife - Rae Dawn Chong on this film. It also has an early appearance of Julia Louis-Dreyfus(Elaine from Seinfeld). Ayre Goss plays the wise cracking friend "Gordo"(he later went on to work with Spielberg in Minority Report). Max Wright(Will Tanner from the TV series ALF) plays the psychiatrist. James B. Sikking(Star Trek 3 and Hill Street Blues)plays the main character's dad. Leslie Nielsen plays the racist landlord and father of one of the girlfriend's that the main character is involved with. Amy Stoch-Poyton(Dallas) has brief cameo in the beginning. There's also "Jan from TV's The Office" aka Melora Hardin looking very beautiful as the Radcliffe student that the main character gets involved with, and has rather special views on interracial relationships. I think it's only been shown on British TV twice(once in late night 1993 on BBC 1 - as I remember watching it then). Funny that it has never been repeated. I think it was recently on Amazon Prime in the UK.
I saw this in the theatre and was entertained. This era had many controversial comedy. There are clear anti-racist messages in this film which shouldn’t be swept aside despite its questionable humor.
The messages might been appreciated If this weren’t about a teen using black face and taking advantage of a culture that isn’t his to get himself into a better collage
I agree. As a kid watching this movie with my brother, we loved it. Obviously, it wouldn't fly to day and I would never approve of black face. But at the time we didn't know any better and somehow the performances worked. Prolly, could've used prosthetics but would that've made it better? Who am I to judge
Sad to say this was one of my favorite movies growing up. I felt Howell was goofy and couldn’t wait to see him maneuver through the situation. I also like Rae dawn and James earl part. The fantasy’s are hilarious and the jive talk. Pimp scene was my favorite. I also liked that he was held accountable at the end. But now that I’m older, been through life and see who the writers were it kind of changes things for me. But at the end of the day I’m glad it was made.
Don't feel too bad. "Holiday Inn" with Bing Crosby used to be one of my favorite christmas films and that had a minstrel show in it. Would be too uncomfortable for me to revisit nowadays.
27:58 OK, I was born in the early 70s, and 'I never had anyone, white or black, tell me to 'get down'. I think Howell's performance would be better explained if he was an alien trying to blend in, whose only knowledge of Earth culture came from intercepted broadcasts of early television and radio programs.
Dana Plato pulled it off better in one episode of Diff'rent Strokes than C. Thomas Howell did in this entire movie. th-cam.com/video/_IrEkbaALvQ/w-d-xo.html
Well No offense, but White Chicks was only funny cause it's the Wayans Brothers, there's no broader message in it or any moral, it's just Cheech and Chong style nonsense. Soul Man actually did end somewhat positively with a nice message.
6:06 Acshualee he didn't play the big brother either, he played one of the big brother's friends in E.T. He was really known for The Outsiders and Red Dawn.
@Lokie Thunder Haven’t seen it but was just correcting them. In general it feels like he’s the white Yahya Abdul-Mateen II; he started off in a really minor role in a popular movie (ET/The Greatest Showman) and then blew up quickly for other movies/TV shows they had a bigger part in. Thankfully, though, Yahya seems to be keeping up the momentum of his career a lot longer than Mr. Howell did.
Been waiting a long time for y'all to roast this one lol, although it would have been nice to hear Martin's thoughts on this. Nevertheless, 40:30-41:13 you guys are on point and brought up some stuff that I and I'm sure others have been talking about for a while. One, Hollywood seems more comfortable emasculating or reducing black and colored men to being the asexual sidekicks or supportive best friends so that we don't take away from the main lead (who presumably will be a white male) in a big major movie. Second, Hollywood also seems more bold putting black men with white men in a gay relationship, but not so bold to put black men with white women in mainstream movies; in fact it seems like we have much more bold interracial representation with gay pairings in media than we do with straight pairings sometimes. In any case, television and online shows/films are a bit better with these representations, but these trends and tropes need to continue to be called out both in and out of the industry so that we can start to see some more real change.
@@maggiec83 Were not even saying that it is emasculating for a black man to play a gay character in a film. It's just that it's precived that way by Hollywood, especially if the token gay character of a film is portrayed in a very effeminate way.
You could say that goes both ways, it isn’t just black people affected by this. You’re not special, that doesn’t translate to “I hate you” just that simply you’re not special, or at least no more special than anyone else.
OMG!! C Thomas Howell thought he was quite handsome. This movie was my childhood. In New York this movie use to come on just about every Saturday or Sunday on channel 11. The 80’s 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@Lokie Thunder and I mean play it OUT! They use to do the same with The Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink, St.Elmo’s Fire, Weird Science and a few others.
@@ReelNinja1 Especially the past 20 years yes...Spike was so thirsty to want an Oscar. I think they just gave him that Oscar just because and Chiraq was not so good..lol
C.Thomas Howell did not play the older brother In E.T. He played a small role, he was one of the older brothers friends who helped Elliot and E.T. escape at the end
DT, you guys have to do a Bad Movie Review/Roast of M. Night Shyamalan's Lady In The Water (2006). This video might be just as epic as your Foodfight! video. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The Happening ain't got nothing on Lady In The Water.
There's Mary Sue and then there's M. Night's cameo in that movie where he's a struggling writer who is destined to write the greatest story known to man. Who wrote Lady in the Water again? Hmmmmmmm.
The weirdest thing about LITW was the neighbor that constantly worked out one side of his body (despite him takin down one of those dog things later in the movie).
Damn, I've never wanted to see this movie, but I had always assumed it was some kinda Freaky Friday type thing. Where he was actually changed into a black person, so he can, "learn a lesson..." But this was just straight blackface the movie.
I guess the whole 'imposter comedy' has been a thing for a long time, although this may be the most unfortunate one of all! In the 80s besides Tootsie, there was also Just One of the Guys, where a girl joins the HS football team as a boy. In the 90s you had Mrs, Doubtfire. Back to the 70s, Bosom Buddies had Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari in drag to get a cheap room in a girls-only apartment. Three's Company did a similar thing, with John Ritter pretending to be gay so that the conservative landlord would let him cohabitate (assumed platonically) with two young women. Then you can go all the way back to Some Like It Hot, with Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis pretending to be women to escape the mob. Of course that probably inspired Nuns on the Run, which then inspired Sister Act. The oldest one I can think of is probably Scaramouche, a 50s film based on a 20s novel, where a man wanted for murder becomes a clown to hide in the circus. Sorry, I probably took this too far....! But if there's any other imposter comedies (good or bad) y'all can think of, drop them here!
Here's a Fun Fact: The role of Mark Watson (the main character who dons blackface) was originally offered to Tim Robbins, who turned the role down to act in "Howard the Duck" instead. So Tim Robbins turned down one bad film to act in another one, and his movie career only got better. C. Thomas Howell's movie career, on the other hand, never recovered after "Soul Man".
I saw this movie on VHS when I was a teenager. And I had never even thought about blackface. So years later, I was reminded of this movie and felt weird about it after that.
23:41 The book BLACK LIKE ME written by John Howard Griffin was the account of the white author darkening his skin using the anti-vitiligo drug methoxsalem then travelling through the South as a black man. This occured in 1959 and the book was released in 1961.
You don't know people called this movie out back then.. Black Face been getting called out since the 1950s.. Parents/Politicians was complaining about Saturday morning Cartoons being too violent.. 1980s baby..
@@kenrickkahn I wasn't talking about people calling things out, I was referring to the fact that people knew that certain things were plain wrong but still did em anyway
When Billy said Nancy Reagan was the type of people that would think this was liberal is so true. Shit even Elizabeth Warren said she was part Cherokee on all her college applications lol This shit is hilarious
Glad to see how much genuine laughter you're getting out of discussing this movie. I saw it when I was around 8, too young to really know what was wrong with it, and I saw it as just another "person pretends to be something they're not" comedy like Tootsie or Just One Of The Guys. It's not good, but given the time period it could easily have been a magical race swap, ala Big or Vice Versa, and that would only have been more awkward.
Only reason we at least me laugh at shit like this is because of how absurd the shit really is. I smoke a blunt watch movies and damn search and critique. But in reality this shit is nuts. Its like El Mariachi being a white guy. The Last Samurai being a white dude.
@@LxrdBreezy00 Well the last samurai was a British soldier who was living in Japan, it's not like they swapped anyone, he was an actual historical figure.
@@keylovesjae it’s a Disney movie about a boy who dreams of becoming a sneaker designer and comes across the Princess of the Sneaker industry. There’s a little more to it, but the premise is getting roasted on social media.
I saw this movie because of your channel, and I must say it is NOT that bad. In fact I like it. I love when he showed up to the Harvard black lawyers associations.
I"m sorry, but I liked this movie. It was silly and it made me laugh. It's a comedy, and, yes, it did delve into politics and tried to be helpful. But, mostly, it was funny. I'm sure there are movies that make fun of white people - such as "White Chicks" - and I could laugh at that movie just as much.....if it was funny, that is.
This character reminds me of a friend of mine Damien Chazelle, (director of Whiplash) who is also from Harvard. He would never act like this, ever, but he looks like him.
Bad Movie Reviews are what make this channel phenomenal, I love Korey, Martin, and Billy, they are the trinity that are unbeatable.
I agree
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I've seen a lot of wild sh!t, but seeing PonyBoy cosplaying as M. Night Shyamalan is one of the wildest things I had seen.
Precisely, I still consider it as a fever dream, and not real!
He looked like a cross between Taimak and Bruno Mars to me XD
LMAO
Yo 'm dying. Never realized that was Ponyboy from Outsiders.
😭😂😂😂😂
More realistically, the guy could have just sold a ton of coke to his classmates, it was Harvard in the 80s after all. Could have bought a house right next to his daddy after graduation too.
For real!
Johnny Cade: "Stay gold, Ponyboy!"
Ponyboy:
I brought this movie up with a 25yo that I work with and he said it doesn't look any worse than RDJ in Tropic Thunder. I tried to explain the difference but he felt I was just making excuses for one over the other.
So... a "comedy" about some "my rich daddy" douche bro who gets a grant... by being black cuz 1. He's awful at handling money (probably his dad's) and 2. daddy wants to bring the "value of a dollar" to his son... but is probably a bit late for it.
While Tropic Thunder has Kirk Lazarus, an Australian method actor (e.i. an actor who'll get awards by pretending to be: a required physicality: starved and lanky or ripped muscle man, be gay, be transexual, middle eastern, have ridiculous accents or even be retarded (but not full retard, cuz we gotta have that romanticized magic retard feels).
And in universe of the film, people are concerned of his level of method acting insanity.
I give you an A for effort but if someone didn’t get the difference right off the bat? It was almost a hopeless dialogue. 🤣🤣
Kids are stupid tbh
No, they are both horribly racist.
@@xer0 How?
So rachel dolezal saw this film and thought "hmmm..... I can do that" 😁😁😁😁😁
Mindy Kaling brother did it too I think.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Justin Trudeau: hold my beer
Soul Man would go on to revert back to being white, move to New York City, become a crane operator, and help Spider-Man get through the city so he could stop the Lizard.
LMAO
Not before being one of the evil-aliens in Zolar: The Skateboarding Alien
@james.b.mcgill my favorite part was when he said, "I was in the movie Soul Man! Don't look it up; *DON'T LOOK IT UP!* "
Well this is a first: not starting off a bad movie review with Billy and/or Martin laughing their butts off
yup very true!
I know was a lil disappointed
Oh no not this. Just watch The Hitcher instead. C. Thomas Howell is great in it.
Him & Rutger Hauer (RIP) amazing
Fun Fact: C. Thomas Howell was briefly married to Rae Dawn Chong.
They actually fell in love while filming this horrible movie.
Yeah I saw that right after this review. 😂😂😂😂
So effectively he was also Tommy Chong's son-in-law for awhile
So she got that Rae Dong Chong.
@@Exskullent Yup
To be fair they didn't really get away with it even at the time everyone hated this movie even in the 80s lol.
@Jerryberry boopboop THANK YOU!!! people think everything was just open season back in the day.. We had people literally trying to cancel the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles back in the 1980s...
@Jerryberry boopboop it’s because this wouldn’t be made today at all. regardless if it was accepted back in the day they still made shit like this😂 but I understand what u mean
True. Even "The Toy" with Richard Pryor was controversial for similar reasons back in the day, but still became a cult favorite with kids who grew up watching it in the 80s.
"Give them a victim they care about"
That's some deep shit man.
!!!MESSAGE!!!
Mark was a villain. Even seeing it at the theater in my early teens I remember watching and hoping to see him get caught and suffer consequences, but being disappointed that he got off so easily.
That's because he came forward and rectified his mistake. Even the Professor understood that.
The message was basically he learns about what we go thru. The movie did have a decent message but its wild as hell
31:57: "Well shit, that's just you Billy". God Damn....I laughed so hard, I started choking.
"Hey, Mark, have you tried working for a liv-"
"NOPE! Where's the makeup?"
😂😂😂😂😂
LMAO
He looked like Michael as a zombie from Thriller
I was thinking the same thing. 🤔
With a hint of Seth Brundle!
So, we couldn't get cable when I was a kid, living in the woods lol...so we'd just buy a bunch of movies....I remember my dad coming home with THIS gem, and I was watching it like..."Umm, is this okay? Can he do this?" ...The answer was no lol
Looks like Tilda Swinton cosplaying Bruno Mars
LMAO
In my head canon, The Hitcher takes place after the events of Soul Man... and Howell is trying to escape the shame of that incident...kinda makes Rutger Hauers character a lot more sympathetic.
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Hollywood shuffle succeeded where this tripe failed. Just because your intentions are good doesn't mean your execution's gonna be flawless. Heck Gene wilder did a better job in 4 minutes than this movie did in an hour and 45
Hollywood Shuffle is a classic. It also did a better job than Bamboozled.
I remember even as a kid in the 80s thinking this was messed up😂😂😂
I love these bad movie roasts
Same
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So do i...Makes me appreciate the time I didn't waste time going to see these films...but I did go see Soul Man in theatre
Me too lol
C. Thomas Howell and Rea Dawn Chong were married in real life and they both hated this movie down through the years
No they both defended the movie and hated the outrage of Spike Lee and others had for the movie
@@flbphotography2239 apparently you have not seen their later interview about it. They are embarrassed cause as they got older they saw it in a different light
C. Thomas is in "ET," but not as the big brother. That dude's named Robert Naughton or something like that. C. Thomas plays one of his friends, who's in the big bike scene.
I was just about to comment about that. Yeah...he played the friend of the older brother.
I remember this movie. I was confused as to why he had blackface (keep in mind I was 3 then plus my mom watched shit ton of movies too). Once I saw this again when I was a little older (in my teens then). I was like oh hell naw.🤣🤣🤣
I saw this in theaters when I was like 3. Lmao, saw it as an adult, "why you dirty motherf**kers..."
Oh shit, y’all doing a full review of this. Let me spark up this blunt and get started😂😂
It took years for C. Thomas Howell to recover from this disaster. He was pretty great in "Gettysburg" though.
I think he was in Punisher Netflix too, he was good too.
He was also in The Amazing Spider-Man
@@JoeChillton Yes, he played a corrupt FBI supervisor and he was very good.
@@tylongkicks8821 Crane Dad, yes.
Hope he's in No Way Home
Yup, poor bastard just looked up his filmography 😳😳😳
I can’t wait for this one it’s gonna make Billy crack up for real 🤣
Me too, nothing like a godawful movie to make Billy laugh out loud!
@@trinaq his laugh is legendary it always makes me laugh
And then he just shoots Korey and Martin and says who's laughing now korey..... who's laughing now 😁😁😁
If it stars with him dying laughing, then I now I'm in store for a great video!
@@ishathompson8439 for real me too. I love his laugh.
This must have been the inspiration for Rachel Dolezal.James Earl Jones went from Roots to this.
Have you actually seen the movie?
I paint cars my job is very stressful perfection is key and in demand . Double toasted keeps me in a good mood while I work all day long
Why, C Thomas Howell, you were SO much better than this! From The Outsiders to this disaster. At least it was seen as offensive in 1986!
Yup. While Ralph Macchio got "The Karate Kid" and Emilio Esteves was in "The Mighty Ducks"....C. Thomas Howell was in this movie, lol!
Yeah. This movies doesn't even have the excuse of it was back then because even back then they weren't having any of it
I think he did the Hitcher this year as well.
@@adu1991 and Patrick Swayze got Dirty Dancing
@@AO-bl7cc Yup!
I remember watching this movie when it came out. I don't remember this movie being a bad movie. I actually remember thinking the movie was good. I was in elementary school at the time so I wasn't thinking "omg, this is racist." 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Same
lol facts,, I thought it was great that he fell in love with the black chick and he had to come out as his white self..
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Its cause he learned his lesson in a way. Everybody wanna be a nigga til they gotta be a nigga (kinda).
Its pretty bad but I think the discussion he has at the end with the professor is great. Im convinced James Earl Jones had some say in what was said in that scene cause its so much more profound than the rest of the movie lol
This movie came out when I was a teen. I watched it as an adult. As a white person, the "comedy" of the stereotypes were stupid to me.
It did put forth a very important message of empathy and walking in someone else's shoes.
These are the most profound points I got out of this movie:
1- He listened to racial jokes by idiots, and started to be affected by them--to the point of punching one of the idiots telling offensive jokes in the face--yes!!
2- When he got pulled over by the police, he thought it was no big deal until he ended up in jail--for nothing--which is what black people have been telling us forever---literally!!!
3- James Earl Jones says he felt dude learned more from this experience than any class could teach him--dude acknowledges--he couldn't touch the real Black American experience. Why? Because he could get out of his "black" skin. That was incredibly profound.
4- He was super scared of losing Rae Dawn Chong cuz he wasn't sure if she forgave him-or if she could love him.
To me, this movie taught me a lot about paying attention to the little micro-aggresions that Black people experience--and have talked about forever.
Should’ve waited til Martin came back. I would’ve love hear his input 😂😂
I remember seeing this as a kid and my parents telling me that C. Thomas Howell and rae dawn chong were actually married in real life, but they had divorced.
WHAT!!!???
@@stephenshw2262 Yeah, they hooked up on this set of this dogshit movie.
@@marlock6573 omg on all the movies they could have met on?
@@jeremypayne2040 at the same time, this is the _only_ movie they could've met on
@@marlock6573 You cant be for real
Ruined many careers. Justice for rae dawn chong 🤣🤣. even for the 80's this was wild....
she’s actually in American Crime Story : impeachment now I was so happy to see her acting again
I used to feel for C. Thomas Howell, because I know that He took a MASSIVE HIT for doing this, but then again, He made the choice to take the Role. He likely needed it, but it didn't help Him at all. Well, at least they wound up making that one Movie in the 90's Livin Large, where T.C. Carson kinda did it in reverse. Kinda did it in reverse.
The film that effectively killed C. Thomas Howell's career! Although, he did get to met his first wife - Rae Dawn Chong on this film. It also has an early appearance of Julia Louis-Dreyfus(Elaine from Seinfeld). Ayre Goss plays the wise cracking friend "Gordo"(he later went on to work with Spielberg in Minority Report). Max Wright(Will Tanner from the TV series ALF) plays the psychiatrist. James B. Sikking(Star Trek 3 and Hill Street Blues)plays the main character's dad. Leslie Nielsen plays the racist landlord and father of one of the girlfriend's that the main character is involved with. Amy Stoch-Poyton(Dallas) has brief cameo in the beginning. There's also "Jan from TV's The Office" aka Melora Hardin looking very beautiful as the Radcliffe student that the main character gets involved with, and has rather special views on interracial relationships.
I think it's only been shown on British TV twice(once in late night 1993 on BBC 1 - as I remember watching it then). Funny that it has never been repeated. I think it was recently on Amazon Prime in the UK.
I saw this in the theatre and was entertained. This era had many controversial comedy. There are clear anti-racist messages in this film which shouldn’t be swept aside despite its questionable humor.
The messages might been appreciated
If this weren’t about a teen using black face and taking advantage of a culture that isn’t his to get himself into a better collage
I agree. As a kid watching this movie with my brother, we loved it. Obviously, it wouldn't fly to day and I would never approve of black face. But at the time we didn't know any better and somehow the performances worked. Prolly, could've used prosthetics but would that've made it better? Who am I to judge
Furthermore, the man enjoyed being black!!
Surviving the Hitcher made Howell lose his mind. Jesus
That was a good ass movie though.
@@bruceleeroy8302 same, I wish it was widely available, been waiting to see this again for years
“A Harvard Law graduate has power.”
To me, this will always be the movie where Darth Vader endorses the Ivy League.
You guys gotta do White Man’s Burden. Travolta was so jive ass in the flick, lol!!! >_
Sad to say this was one of my favorite movies growing up. I felt Howell was goofy and couldn’t wait to see him maneuver through the situation. I also like Rae dawn and James earl part. The fantasy’s are hilarious and the jive talk. Pimp scene was my favorite. I also liked that he was held accountable at the end. But now that I’m older, been through life and see who the writers were it kind of changes things for me. But at the end of the day I’m glad it was made.
Don't feel too bad. "Holiday Inn" with Bing Crosby used to be one of my favorite christmas films and that had a minstrel show in it. Would be too uncomfortable for me to revisit nowadays.
C. Thomas Howell: From Ponyboy to blackface
This guy looks like an Aardman Animation character rather than black.
27:58 OK, I was born in the early 70s, and 'I never had anyone, white or black, tell me to 'get down'.
I think Howell's performance would be better explained if he was an alien trying to blend in, whose only knowledge of Earth culture came from intercepted broadcasts of early television and radio programs.
Add "let's get jiggy" to the list. Never heard a black person use that word except Will Smith in that wack ass song.
@@carltonbanks5470 Haha yeah that too! All totally cool for funky old song lyrics or disco DJ banter, but in the real world... Yeah probably not
I always found it ridiculous how everyone assumed he was black when he clearly looked like a white guy with a tan.
He looked more like an Indian or an Aborigine.
White chicks, Martin, Eddie, and the racial draft made me feel better about this movie 😁🙏🏾.
Dana Plato pulled it off better in one episode of Diff'rent Strokes than C. Thomas Howell did in this entire movie.
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Amen
Well No offense, but White Chicks was only funny cause it's the Wayans Brothers, there's no broader message in it or any moral, it's just Cheech and Chong style nonsense. Soul Man actually did end somewhat positively with a nice message.
Oh God that thumbnail got me cracking up already 😂😂
6:06 Acshualee he didn't play the big brother either, he played one of the big brother's friends in E.T. He was really known for The Outsiders and Red Dawn.
11:04 So it's also a modern Disney movie?
Red Dawn,and The Outsiders!!Now THOSE were good movies!
@Lokie Thunder Haven’t seen it but was just correcting them. In general it feels like he’s the white Yahya Abdul-Mateen II; he started off in a really minor role in a popular movie (ET/The Greatest Showman) and then blew up quickly for other movies/TV shows they had a bigger part in. Thankfully, though, Yahya seems to be keeping up the momentum of his career a lot longer than Mr. Howell did.
Tyler Perry should ABSOLUTELY remake this movie. Put Timberlake in the lead role. That's 💰 💰 💰.
Been waiting a long time for y'all to roast this one lol, although it would have been nice to hear Martin's thoughts on this. Nevertheless, 40:30-41:13 you guys are on point and brought up some stuff that I and I'm sure others have been talking about for a while. One, Hollywood seems more comfortable emasculating or reducing black and colored men to being the asexual sidekicks or supportive best friends so that we don't take away from the main lead (who presumably will be a white male) in a big major movie. Second, Hollywood also seems more bold putting black men with white men in a gay relationship, but not so bold to put black men with white women in mainstream movies; in fact it seems like we have much more bold interracial representation with gay pairings in media than we do with straight pairings sometimes. In any case, television and online shows/films are a bit better with these representations, but these trends and tropes need to continue to be called out both in and out of the industry so that we can start to see some more real change.
I'm not into this implication that showing black men as gay is "emasculating"
@@maggiec83 Were not even saying that it is emasculating for a black man to play a gay character in a film. It's just that it's precived that way by Hollywood, especially if the token gay character of a film is portrayed in a very effeminate way.
th-cam.com/video/c1vmEZPsFbY/w-d-xo.html you might like this video on their second channel it has Martin and Chris talking about the movie
@@_dtez_8539 Yeah I've seen that like months ago. That's why I was exicited to see them finally review it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You could say that goes both ways, it isn’t just black people affected by this. You’re not special, that doesn’t translate to “I hate you” just that simply you’re not special, or at least no more special than anyone else.
One of those rare occasions where instead of roasting the movie korey scolds it
This movie is basically the sophisticated version of The Pest
I hate how accurate that sounds
We should get that guy to be T’Challa in Black Panther 2.
Jesus, you can't START a video like that! I cringed so hard at the scene, I think I hurt something.
OMG!! C Thomas Howell thought he was quite handsome. This movie was my childhood. In New York this movie use to come on just about every Saturday or Sunday on channel 11. The 80’s 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Man I only know about this movie from cable tv in the 90’s it was on late at night.
I watched this for the first real time as a teen early 0's good times
He was handsome in my opinion 🥰
@Lokie Thunder and I mean play it OUT! They use to do the same with The Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink, St.Elmo’s Fire, Weird Science and a few others.
@@reikun86 lol yes he was a handsome guy.
they thought they were doing a service, but this was extremely miscalculated
I remember Spike Lee was very pissed off about this movie back in the day.
When isn’t Spike Lee pissed though? lol he should be mad at himself for that wack ass Chiraq movie
@@ReelNinja1 Especially the past 20 years yes...Spike was so thirsty to want an Oscar. I think they just gave him that Oscar just because and Chiraq was not so good..lol
When isn't it pissed off
@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 😂
@@ReelNinja1 Spike has earned the right to be pissed off at this trash as any black person should. Dont care how bad Chiraq was who gives af.
Even my 6 year old self was like "Da fuq!? Why???" when I saw a trailer for this movie. Still haven't seen the full movie to this day.
That "WHITE WOMEN" line has to be used as a subscriber notification
42:17 I gotta correct Billy: Vanity was also getting roles around that time so that's TWO black actors in Hollywood getting consistent romantic roles
I’m glad I brought this movie to their attention, this is prob the third or fourth time they’ve talked about this movie.
The more bad movies they review, this channel is becoming the best successful channel period. Keep it coming, man.
When Kory and Billy get together they are hilarious 😆
WOOOOOOW I so didn't think we was gonna get this. Now all I need is. The Last Dragon and Big Trouble and Little China!
Yes, please!
C.Thomas Howell did not play the older brother In E.T. He played a small role, he was one of the older brothers friends who helped Elliot and E.T. escape at the end
The fake white black guy kinda look like Michael Jackson too lol 😆😎😅🤣😂😎
DT, you guys have to do a Bad Movie Review/Roast of M. Night Shyamalan's Lady In The Water (2006). This video might be just as epic as your Foodfight! video. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The Happening ain't got nothing on Lady In The Water.
There's Mary Sue and then there's M. Night's cameo in that movie where he's a struggling writer who is destined to write the greatest story known to man.
Who wrote Lady in the Water again? Hmmmmmmm.
The weirdest thing about LITW was the neighbor that constantly worked out one side of his body (despite him takin down one of those dog things later in the movie).
Oh that would be amazing. I enjoyed that shit movie still
Damn, I've never wanted to see this movie, but I had always assumed it was some kinda Freaky Friday type thing. Where he was actually changed into a black person, so he can, "learn a lesson..." But this was just straight blackface the movie.
Hard to believe this is the same guy who went on to voice the Reverse Flash
the screenwriter of this movie went on to co-create the wonder years
The Hitcher and Soul Man in the same year..both starring C Thomas Howell
I remember this movie came on TV when I was a kid, and my Dad could not stop laughing
I guess the whole 'imposter comedy' has been a thing for a long time, although this may be the most unfortunate one of all! In the 80s besides Tootsie, there was also Just One of the Guys, where a girl joins the HS football team as a boy. In the 90s you had Mrs, Doubtfire. Back to the 70s, Bosom Buddies had Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari in drag to get a cheap room in a girls-only apartment. Three's Company did a similar thing, with John Ritter pretending to be gay so that the conservative landlord would let him cohabitate (assumed platonically) with two young women. Then you can go all the way back to Some Like It Hot, with Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis pretending to be women to escape the mob. Of course that probably inspired Nuns on the Run, which then inspired Sister Act. The oldest one I can think of is probably Scaramouche, a 50s film based on a 20s novel, where a man wanted for murder becomes a clown to hide in the circus. Sorry, I probably took this too far....! But if there's any other imposter comedies (good or bad) y'all can think of, drop them here!
Here's a Fun Fact: The role of Mark Watson (the main character who dons blackface) was originally offered to Tim Robbins, who turned the role down to act in "Howard the Duck" instead. So Tim Robbins turned down one bad film to act in another one, and his movie career only got better. C. Thomas Howell's movie career, on the other hand, never recovered after "Soul Man".
Wow
I saw this movie on VHS when I was a teenager. And I had never even thought about blackface. So years later, I was reminded of this movie and felt weird about it after that.
Howell looks like a really bad knock off Chris Rock 😂
2:36 it dosent help that they made the blackface convincing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀
C. Thomas Howell wasn't the older brother in E.T. Robert MacNaughton was Michael in E.T. He was just one of his friends.
He was in E.T. He was the older brother's friend.
@@michaelstrong5383 That's right. I was thrown off when he said that he played Michael, but I looked it up and corrected my statement.
Exactly dude was from gremlins
23:41 The book BLACK LIKE ME written by John Howard Griffin was the account of the white author darkening his skin using the anti-vitiligo drug methoxsalem then travelling through the South as a black man. This occured in 1959 and the book was released in 1961.
Lol I had no idea this movie was THIS rough.
Saw you guys tackle this movie on TikTok and I wanted to check out the full version. Good stuff!
There is such a suspension of disbelief to think people wouldn't be able to tell he isn't black
God I need therapy just from the thumbnail.....
The 80s was the decade where nobody Truly gave a Fuck 😂
You don't know people called this movie out back then.. Black Face been getting called out since the 1950s.. Parents/Politicians was complaining about Saturday morning Cartoons being too violent.. 1980s baby..
@@kenrickkahn I wasn't talking about people calling things out, I was referring to the fact that people knew that certain things were plain wrong but still did em anyway
When Billy said Nancy Reagan was the type of people that would think this was liberal is so true. Shit even Elizabeth Warren said she was part Cherokee on all her college applications lol This shit is hilarious
OHHH THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME
I wish Martin and Chris were here for this
Glad to see how much genuine laughter you're getting out of discussing this movie. I saw it when I was around 8, too young to really know what was wrong with it, and I saw it as just another "person pretends to be something they're not" comedy like Tootsie or Just One Of The Guys. It's not good, but given the time period it could easily have been a magical race swap, ala Big or Vice Versa, and that would only have been more awkward.
Only reason we at least me laugh at shit like this is because of how absurd the shit really is. I smoke a blunt watch movies and damn search and critique. But in reality this shit is nuts. Its like El Mariachi being a white guy. The Last Samurai being a white dude.
@@LxrdBreezy00 Well the last samurai was a British soldier who was living in Japan, it's not like they swapped anyone, he was an actual historical figure.
LMAO @ "this is back in the day, when if you were a landlord, you were required to wear a hat and smoke a cigar."
wait till they hear about Sneakerella lol
Sneakerella😳?
It’s a horror movie
@@keylovesjae it’s a Disney movie about a boy who dreams of becoming a sneaker designer and comes across the Princess of the Sneaker industry.
There’s a little more to it, but the premise is getting roasted on social media.
Pony boy: breathes
Korey: I attack him, I attack blackface
Rae-Dawn Chong was the only woman of color in the 80s working steadily…Billy’s right
Whoopi Goldberg had 8 films in the 80s.
Bullcrap LISA BONET?
@@moraster Besides Angel Heart .Name 2 more films
Didnt realize there was a Shaun King documentary
Man, where's Rutger Hauer when you need him?
I saw this movie because of your channel, and I must say it is NOT that bad. In fact I like it. I love when he showed up to the Harvard black lawyers associations.
I"m sorry, but I liked this movie. It was silly and it made me laugh. It's a comedy, and, yes, it did delve into politics and tried to be helpful. But, mostly, it was funny. I'm sure there are movies that make fun of white people - such as "White Chicks" - and I could laugh at that movie just as much.....if it was funny, that is.
This movie definitely wouldn't be made today 🤣
I'm late to the game but it's always energetic when Billy's here. 💪🏻😂
This character reminds me of a friend of mine Damien Chazelle, (director of Whiplash) who is also from Harvard. He would never act like this, ever, but he looks like him.