Quite literally still the gold standard for action horror, even with the remake out this game has a kind of gameplay loop that the remake didn't fully capture.
The controls to me never felt 'bad' at all. It's just the style of game that it was. The problem nowadays is that every god damn game needs to play the same exact way.
I wrapped up yet another run of the original RE4 a while ago after finishing its remake, hyperbole doesn't even begin to approach just how well this game comes together. RE4 is underrated if anything, It belongs in some non-existent hall-of-fame on how to absolutely perfectly fucking nail the whole gaming experience. Didn't age well my ass. It shits on most video games that come out today in terms of design. Good video btw. Love Castlevania's music.
Agree up to the military island, that section of the game was dull, murky, repetitive and draaaaaaaaaaged oooooooooooon for way too long. The castle however was awesome
@@lilpimp994thats because the game is supposed to be art direction and simple thing with easy controls. Y'all are just used to terrible modern controls
I tried the original Re4 just really struggled with the Tank controls but I dont think it's aged poorly just each to their own in gaming style. I Loved the remake and completed twice.
For me, it's the combination of tank controls without the ability to aim and shoot that make it hard to go back to and throughout enjoy. All of its strengths are still bright as day, but it definitely has weaknesses.
I realized that enemies infinitely spawned in the water room when I tried hiding both of us in the pressure plate room and a Ganado spawned behind me instead of coming through a door
They don’t infinitely spawn, there’s just a lot of them that keep spawning. Depending on how well you’ve been playing, you could end up with sniper crossbows, or after bringing down a bridge, a swarm of scythe wielded. It’s not infinite, but it might as well feel infinite.
I personally think the villages art direction fits really well, it does a good job at making you feel lost and alone at least it did for me on my first play through
I think that’s thanks to the level design more than to the art direction. But I’m willing to say I got a hot take on my hands. Was watching Dragon Maid before it got interrupted by the current SpongeBob rewatch, and I liked it :) besides some eyebrow raising scenes.
The HD release that came out in 2014 probably should've been mentioned in this video. It only improved the graphics, but it improved them incredibly well. Nothing was redesigned or different, only more detailed. The castle actually became really good to look at. Also, the HD remake makes the game really good to play with using a mouse and keyboard on the PC. It's one of my comfort games, something I go to for a 20 minute break after a strenuous day of work.
i love this game so much, and even for an "old" game it feels relatively modern. the remake is amazing as well but they're different enough to both still be enjoyed.
My first time playing RE4 I didn't appreciate the game as much as I do now. I didn't like the departure from the old style, especially after RE1 remake. I replayed it a few years ago recently on the wii and think the game is genuinely perfect (or at least really close to it). It's one of the most consistently fun games I have ever played.
It aged better than the remake. After one playthrough of the remake I was burnt out. The Merchant is the reason for this. You want a laser sight? Go wash the Merchant’s muddy lifted pick-up truck. Want a treasure map so you can grind for treasure? Go mow the Merchant’s lawn. You want the final upgrade for a weapon? Make Capcoms CEO come through his pants.
Yeah I played the game 1,5 times and first round was on Hardcore, which was a huge mistake because enemies almost never gets stunned which means less fun melees... not that the melees in RE4make are any good anyway... Feels like the new devs didn't understand what made RE4 fun...
@@DarkZide8 Yeah at least with the melee in the original you could reliably stun enemies. Which is a big issue when the remake puts more focus on melee than any other Resident Evil. The shooting feels unreliable too. Sweaty people tell me they can always get head shots even with an imprecise reticle, which makes no sense to me.
In my opinion, RE4 on Wii aged the best, because it’s extremely easy to pull off the quick time events. You either press A and B together or shake your controller. You can be sneaky and do both at the same time 😎
The Wii version's controls were so good that I couldn't play the game with non-motion aiming again - even the HD versions. When RE5 came out I had to force myself to try and enjoy the old control scheme. I would even buy the game on PS3 and the stupid motion controllers JUST to be able to use motion aiming again (although it still wasn't as accurate as the Wii version). I think that RE4 in VR is defenitely the best one now, but yeah, the Wii version was amazing - especially considering it was clearly a lazy port. The biggest issue I have with the Wii version is the low-resolution, especially if you want tonplay on an HDTV in widescreen. The game legit just crops and zooms in on the standard letterbox 480p picture, resulting in an even more atrocious image quality. It looks like it's 360p. Maybe even worse. Even the PS2 version in widescreen had better image quality (though the actual graphics were still 'worse'). A shame Capcom didn't take the time to actually render the game in true anamorphic widescreen (which they literally advertise on the back of the box). They managed to do it for Umbrella / Darkside Chronicles, so why not RE4? I understand it was a quick cheap port and all but damn. It's the one glaring flaw I had with the Wii version, which is a shame because the controls were so good.
There's a reason why so many people still play this game to this day and even some playing the classic in more recent years. It has a style, a certain gameplay, balances it, and embraces it.
OG RE4 has aged very well which isn't surprising since it's one of the most influential games ever. Almost every 3rd person game made today should be thanking Shinji Mikami and Capcom Studio 4/Clover in their credits.
Bought this for my nintendo switch , took a minute to get used to the controls again but omce it clicks , it clicks and the controls feel much more natural .
It's on like ~15 different platform and has different versions, including VR and a remake, what do you think? Yes it aged well, because really it barely aged at all
I love tank controls, but they were never implemented *because* of the difficulty they introduced. They were implemented because they were necessary for the fixed camera angles of RE1-3/C:V/0, and the stress they induced just happened to fit the games. They were presumably kept in 4 because of tradition and the newness of the third person shooter genre not having standards set at the time.
Second comment, I also want to say that there is no such thing as outdated game design. Design is all about intent, it has to have a purpose. If it fulfills that purpose well, then it's good design. If not, then it's bad design, simple as that.
This is true, but back in the day we were far more forgiving about certain game design choices that in retrospect don't hold up so well. Mario 64's camera for example. Then there's the reverse case scenario in which people bitched about the controls of games like Alien Resurrection on PS1 or Turok on N64 which would essentially lay the groundwork for the modern FPS dual-analogue setup that has since become the standard for console FPSs.
This. Just cause fixed camera angles aren't mainstream anymore doesn't mean they're bad design, there's a reason CV used them even after there was no technical reason to do so.
I prefer the original re4 to the remake. The remake is amazing and they did a great job keeping it true to the og but the original just has something about that I love. I love the brown and cold European countryside with the perfect soundtrack and characters. I love playing the Xbox one port
RE4 PC player here, played it last year and it has since become one of my favorite games of all time, I now own a physical copy on GameCube as well. And I must say, it plays fucking amazing on mouse and keyboard. Idk what actual baby told you that it doesn’t play well on mouse and keyboard, it plays so well it almost feels like cheating.
I recall watching a streamer having issues with the controls, but that was a few years ago. But in general, I saw them in a Twitter thread. Is the PC Port’s logic still tied to its frame rate or did that get fixed?
@@SalsaSethI haven’t tried frame rates other than 30 out of curiosity and 60 for my play throughs. But I mean, 60 for a game that originally ran in 30 is great. Also used a mod that was highly recommended on PCGamingWiki called RE4_Tweaks that adds a bunch of options to the game that the PC port should have had, like removing VSYNC, an FOV slider, even graphical elements from the GameCube Version. Really great mod, I think essential for any RE4 play through on PC
there's only one part that flat out didn't work on mouse and keyboard, and that was the del Lago boss fight. I remember thinking that was really difficult until I played it on controller and beat it instantly. (I should specify this was the version available on steam)
Agreed on the mouse controls. If anything thats exactly why you shouldn't play with a mouse: the game was not designed with it in mind at all. It's the same problem I have with the wii version. The controls feel great, but they do nothing to compensate for how your aiming is now much faster and more precise than the devs designed the game around, so overall I feel it makes the game worse
I actually find the RTS on console to be easier to manage. On PC I end up just pointing and clicking things with the mouse since the buttons on the keyboard are so spaced apart. I was better as Command and Conquer when I had it on Xbox.
I’ve been playing the original since 2014 as well and aside from the art direction, QTEs and the pacing in the last third of the campaign, I feel the original is still a fun game to play. I think OG RE4 is one of those games where growing up with it makes it harder to see the areas where its aged and by extension, makes it harder to recommend to your friends who aren’t familiar with its quirks. The game was designed with its controls in mind and while they work, they have aged to a certain extent and represent the time in which the game was made. Conversely, while RE4R feels smoother to play with omnidirectional movement, being able to aim and shoot while moving, knife parries and stealth kills, said knife was given a durability meter and enemies were made smarter and more aggressive to compensate for your new abilities. While both have their merits and detractors, I do feel Remake is the more approachable game for newcomers and is my preference. I don’t think the original has aged BADLY per se, but certain aspects feel a little archaic and I see where some people are coming from
"Y'know, I coulda saved myself a bunch of time by just tweeting, 'Stop saying games aged poorly and just say you hate old games.' Oh well." About that: I know it's obviously a joke, but this kind of topic is always better talked about in lengthy detail like you just did on this video. I'm only saying this because I've been thinking a lot about this stuff recently, and it's refreshing to see someone actually putting those thoughts into light. So, I guess the point I'm trying to get across is, simply: I'm grateful. Really. Thank you so much for this video.
If I recall correctly, regarding the tank controls, didn't Resi4 use the type where you use both sticks at once for more efficient movement and also have a quick-turn button?
They changed that in a lot of the many HD-ports. If you play the version on Steam you are using the right stick when aiming and even right trigger for shooting.@@SalsaSeth
@@SalsaSeth I admittedly haven't replayed it in years and I feel dumb asking, but was the quick turn for the camera, Leon or both? Looking up the controls for the GameCube and Wii versions as a refresher seems to suggest free movement with the left stick as well, so I might've been thinking of a different tank-style Capcom game to begin with.
@@ElFreakinCid how it worked was, when you did a quick turn around, Leon would turn first, and then the camera would do a turn around to get behind Leon's shoulders.
There're definitely things you can criticize RE4 for, including things that have only become less standard as time has gone on (like lack of subtitles in some versions), but it always seems to be focused on the fact it isn't the same as the new games. Like, it's ok for different games in a series to be different games instead of just different campaigns with interchangeable gameplay mechanics and visual styles. It's ok for Devil May Cry 1 to not be Devil May Cry 5 or Metal Gear 1 to not be MGSV Part 3 I disagree about the art style though. It isn't my favorite in the series but it makes use of the GameCube well and has a stylization all its own. It isn't as strong as REmake or VII but it's definitely got its own identity
I agree on everything besides the art direction, hell i prefer the OG's one over the remake, i feel like the remake is overly cluttered just to flex how "Next Gen" it is and takes away from that unique feel the OG had. I think the brown era of games was pretty tough to look at sometimes but, there are examples like RE4 and NFS: Most Wanted where i feel like it serves an actual purpose rather than being brown and dark for the sake of it. The castle also serves as a nice rest on the eyes from all the brownery of the village, and talking about the castle, i think there's where the OG's art direction beats the remake the most. In the remake, the castle looks too dark for my taste, and you can say that the overly bright castle from the OG is unrealistic and some people may even not like it at all but, in my opinion i think it serves to create that vibe that i cant really explain, vibe that has been lost in the remake's castle. And this being the first video of yours that i've seen so far im looking forward to more content like this
i agree and not even that they made locations smaller and like u said cluttered and dark and u just don’t really get those same vibes same thing with ambience and hearing chanting etc it’s just kinda soulless and they cut way too much out the game way to many locations and the lack of dialogue and conversation between ashley and just him commenting on things that are happening and what he finds, i also hate the fact that they don’t even have leon on the side of the attachment case and that u can only use the laser on like 2 guns and there the worst guns like who cares about being realistic or resident evil lol
Still haven't played the remake myself, I only watched my friend Jekrix play the chainsaw demo, so I can't speak of the remakes art direction, but I can imagine that the devs intent on expanding on the original game could've blinded them to what made the original art design work. Ayy, hope you like what I put out. Should be something soon. and also... The only way to play Need for Speed Most Wanted, is on the Vita BAY BEE! VITA GAMING! Vita stay winning, as always!!!!!!
@@SalsaSeth Haha, i didn't know about that port, i play the PC version with a couple of mods that fixes it up pretty good. HD Reflections, Widescreen Fix, Extra Options, Gamepad support, etc Don't get me wrong i loved the remake and i think it's graphically stunning but, i think i love the original too much and would rather have it be more faithful
I love re4 for ehat it is. Tank control and ashley adds to difficulty and the atmosphere is soo good. My no.3 game. 1st is splinter cell (ct) and 2nd would be smackdown htcp.
I would love to give the Splinter Cell games a shot, especially since Chaos Theory's on GameCube, (I'm a GameCube Hoe). I love Michael Ironside in Total Recall and Transformers Prime.
There's only 2 things in RE4 that are less than perfect, 8 way aiming instead of full 360 degree aiming, it's not a huge difference but playing dead Space which is basically RE4 in Space or even nearly any other shooter and going back to RE4 does feel kinda wrong at first, it's a quick adjustment but it's still an adjustment and it still just never feels as good to aim as full 360 motion. And Mercenaries mode, that's the only point where the gameplay feels too frantic for the tank controls especially once the instakill enemies start getting spammed, needed a smoother ramp up at the very least
Started first playing in 2021. I disagree with the Art Direction. The Village has this deadly ghosttown feel with the gray skies, the old and broken Village making it look like a lost place. It was made to make the game more eerie and combining it with the soundtrack should make it way obvious. The Castle as example isnt just generic dark bloody hallways - its bright, it feels to normal, it feels uncomfortable and its also very open. I felt being watched at my first playthrough and the soundtrack helped a lot. Not only makes it the game more visible (which is a big problem of the remake being so dark) it also makes it more eerie and special in its own way! But hey nobody remembers RE4 for its good atmosphare because we played it all so friggin much that we start to forget the atmosphare, the great eerie areas, the ambience etc. I can remember when I was looking behind me all the time at the castle because I felt like someone was standing behind me. Funnily enough didnt happen at the Remake even with those bloody, dark, long and closely hallways... The original was way more creepier for me. It was also the only Resident Evil Title funny enough which made me scared. Not even RE1R scared me, none of the stuff RE7 or RE8 throwed scared me really.
@@realnickhiro RE7 was my 1st horror(I don't count action resident evils as horror games) I never played a horror game before RE7, and it didn't scare me like almost all of my horror games I played. I think they are just babies who get scared from anything.
I agree. RE4 was funnily enough the most unnerving one for me (but I wouldnt call it scary).Outlast and Cry of Fear (before it got popular) back in the day actually scared me but this was also like a decade ago. @@giwi4
I played the remake and it was outstanding. I bought the original and couldn't deal with the nauseating camera. Maybe I need to be more patient with it but I had to stop playing it.
i grew up during the original resident evil releases, and re4 (2005) was the first resident evil game that i beat. i did go back and beat all the numbered re games. but im glad for the remake cause i tried to go back abd play it a couple yrs ago and i had so much trouble with the tank controls, and ashleys ai was horrible. granted i was playing on the pc port with a controller, and it had sum lag issues. even the remake dont lag as much as the original did on my laptop, and the updated controls, the parry system, ashleys updated ai, and the discontinuation of quik time events made the game so much better imo. the original was good for its time, but the remake is good for the present. i like the remakes of the resident evil games and i go back and play them regularly. im waiting for re9 to come out to see if characters for the earlier games will make a return and what will happen next, and if they take on the bsaa for using bioweapons in the ending part of re village.
Slowdown was caused by your laptop not being able to reach the fps target, be it 30 or most likely 60, setting it to 30 and/or lowering settings like anti-aliasing could fix that
Played it this year after the remake and its good, had fun even though I got stuck on several moments of the game. It aged well and also screw Valorant.
There are some things I do like in the remake that I wish could be brought over into the original: More variety in the Ganado models, more use of blue medallions, Luis' redone backstory and extended screentime, and maybe the bolt thrower if it didn't break the remake. But in all honestly, I prefer the original game. This isn't nostalgia, the remake is good, definitely far better than RE Village which has already aged like expired milk and is a poor man's RE4, but the original has way more charm, more refined combat and better game design, more likeable and memorable villains, Ashley is a lot less annoying (People who say she is are bad at the original game, because that's the only time she can be annoying is if you are bad at protecting her) than her remake version. The soundtrack is memorable and more pronounced/defined, the merchant is a lot less annoying (Dude won't shut up in the remake), and it also has way better art direction. Speaking of which, you mention that the art direction in the original is bad because the game is mostly brown, you do know that art direction is more than just about colors, right? It's aesthetics, it's styles, it's the feeling of the environment or location that you are in. One example of the original game having better art direction than the remake is in the U.I of the Inventory, where the original has this rusty metallic aesthetic to it, with Leon standing on the side, while the remake has pitch-blackness with smoke and no Leon, it's completely devoid of any sense of art in that regard.
No, the original has not aged badly. I don't like it when remake elitists say the original is bad because it's different from the remake. I also don't like it when someone says a game hasn't aged well. Sure, I prefer the original's art style. I'm not a fan of Nick Apostolides as Leon unlike The Sphere Hunter. Does that mean I think the original Biohazard 4 is the greatest game of all-time? No. For me the greatest game ever is 30XX, but that's just me. If someone thinks the original Biohazard 4 or the remake is the best game of all-time, that's fine. As for the GameCube version of Biohazard 4 being the best, I disagree. It's got less content than later versions. It's not a bad version though.
RE4 remake is every bit as good as everyone says it is, but RE4 never needed a remake because og RE4 has aged very well. Instead we should be getting an RE CV remake, or even an RE0 Remake. Those two games really need the remake treatment.
I think Resident Evil 4 Remake is overrated. They changed the fundamentals in the gameplay and instead of strategic positioning for firing and melee it is now run'n'gun. It's not as fun as the original.
Disagree that any game Needs a remake. If CV 1 and 0 "need" remakes cause they're a different style than 4 onwards, then what about 4 once those games are done? It'd be the odd one out with tank controls. The fixed camera angles, character based movement, adventure game style gameplay of the pre-4 games are just as thought out and worth it as 4's own quirks. RE should ease up on the remakes overall, 3 of the last 4 major games have been remakes, that's ridiculous.
@@Akay4444444444444444 The classic RE games are still popular till this day. Remaking these 20 plus year old amazing games under this new amazing RE Engine is a brilliant idea, as long as the story is handled right of course. In my opinion, i think Capcom cut out too much in the RE2 and RE3 remakes and didn't really substitute with much. RE4 remake, on the other hand, was handled excellently. It added while also retaining a lot of its original core elements. All in all, remaking these classic RE games is great. These old titles need to be brought back and used under these new gaming advancements.
@@tigga2300 Remakes are still different games though. Remaking 2 and 3 didn't make the original 2 or 3 any more accessible on modern hardware, it just made a new game based on those. Like the remakes are good games (well, I haven't played 4) but they are not the same experiences. A game is more than just a story after all, otherwise we'd all just be reading plot summaries on Wikipedia, and with how heavily 2make and 3 change you can't even say the story is the same either with how many elements are completely changed, like Kendo, Ada's cover story, Nicholai's allegiance, etc. I'd rather Capcom make some more new stories whether they be prequels, sequels, or set between games like Revelations, rather than dangling nostalgia shaved into the series current standard mold.
The only downside to RE4 nowadays is that the ports constantly fuck with the controls. GameCube - B button is on the left side, therefore left button should always work like that. Xbox Port - B button is on right side? We'll just move the function to the wrong side to keep the same lettering. GCN's Z for Map translates to Right Bumper or R1, easy conversion. Naw, let's remap it to the Y or Triangle button, then change menu to Start. Like FFS.
Love the video though one thing I will say is that as someone who grew up using a controller for FPS games for a decade and then switched to PC I am physically unable to enjoy ANY shooters on controller anymore and this had been the case for about 90% of my friends who followed the same path. I understand the logic but I am physically incapable of playing a game with a controller now and it has been this way since around the 2 year mark of switching. This also really sucks because I can't get any of my friends into a series like the campaigns of Gears of War 1-3 because the fact that you have to use a controller killed almost all of the fun even if the game is a masterpiece and I can't even replay them myself. My biggest pet peeve is when a game has a bad PC port and the comments are "bro just use a controller"
Most shooters are usually designed with keyboard and mouse controls in mind. RE4 was originally designed with a controller in mind. I talked about RE4's PC controls because I heard offhand how they disliked how it played on keyboard. But multiple people in the comments have said, "nah fam, keyboard makes it easy mode." My question for you is every game impossible to play on controller? I primarily play on console, but when I do play PC games (usually Minecraft) I don't find trouble going back. Like do you play platformers (Celeste, Pizza Tower, Cuphead) on keyboard? You might want to just rebind the controllers buttons to what's comfortable. My friend Jekrix, they're really into Celeste, and they control that game using only the shoulder buttons. Maybe experiment with that.
@@SalsaSeth No I can play basically every game that isn't a shooter on controller but I still prefer the mouse and keyboard if at all possible. Jedi Survivor is a good example that everyone said was basically unplayable on mouse but it was fine for me. I recently replayed a bunch of Zelda games on controller and it was great outside of stuff like the horseback bow and arrow sections. The best way to describe it is that there is a disconnect in my brain now because I used to be really good and now there in a huge mental handicap. We tried to get my mom to play Stanley Parable when it came out on PC and her brain could not wrap itself around the controls. I'm not like that per say since I understand HOW it works but in a similar way my brain cannot do what it used to be able to do aiming with a controller to anywhere near the same extent so it kills the game entirely for me and the same with a lot of my friends who also switched to PC. That's the best way I can really describe it. By the way I did still enjoy RE4 on PC and probably even more than I did playing it on the GameCube as a kid. I do agree it felt like playing on easy mode to an extent.
It's definitely hard to go back to dual-analogue for shooters once you get used to the precision of mouse aiming. The Wii version of RE4 made it impossible for me to go back to the original controls (even when the HD versions released). I wouldn't even play another version of the game until the VR port came out. As for the PC version, I bought it and I love mouse aiming - but I simply can't stand keyboard controls. Usually on PC I use a convoluted setup in which I use the mouse with my right hand and then I hold a controller in my left hand. The results here vary, as I can only access the left stick and a few buttons on the controller with my left hand, and theres only so many functions I can assign to the mouse. For some reason though, RE4 on PC won't let me use a controller and mouse controls at the same time, so I'm out of luck there.
I’ve never played or ever heard of Valorant, but your glowing anti-endorsement did the job. I won’t play it the way I’ve played RE4 and remake…religiously.
Because you don’t have to quit your job and abandon your kids to “go get milk” so you can grind 3,000,000 pesetas for the infinite rocket launcher. As well as grind for all the other things this game has to offer. Or you can skip the 1/10 parts of the game by giving Capcom money for weapon tickets.
Fun video you uploaded. And you say "FU-K" with the best of them! To be honest, which is difficult for me because I lie compulsively. Kidding. Actually, I find the old RE4 quite difficult. I use the PS5 to play it and I can't figure out how to move with any expertise whatsoever. Maybe I should reprogram the controller as close to the Nintendo as you suggest ....
The settings to change the controls can make it play similarly to the GameCube, although because of how the PlayStation controller is designed, it's not 1 to 1. I do firmly believe that RE4 wasn't meant to shoot with the triggers. That might be why you're having trouble.
it still holds up and I still like the original over the remake. the re4 remake is an odd one, because its a game that didn't need a remake. I always thought remakes were for legendary games that were clearly outdated in todays times and by popular demand gets a remake. re4 is a legendary game but its not severely outdated, and I didn't hear many people demanding a remake like how they did with the re2 remake. and the remake was good, but the unnecessary changes they made such as dialogue, personality (Leon not being funny), and slight plot changes is what made me pick the original over remake. for example saddler is the main villain, in the remake this dude isn't shown til near the end of the game, and you have no reason to kill him other than its your mission. in the original he's constantly trying to kill Leon throughout the game, and then in a shocking brutal scene he kills Luis who was a good friend to Leon, giving Leon and the player a reason to hate him. in the remake all of that is absent, Luis still dies but Leon and Luis don't have any sort of relationship at all in the remake, so his death didn't mean much to Leon.
Saddler has less presence in the remake and is perhaps more generic, but the original Saddler was definitely not "constantly " trying to kill Leon. The first time he meets leon, he monologues to him and lets him and Ashley escape. He also kills Luis in the original and then dips, leaving Leon alone.
@@SittingBass sorry I was typing a whole lot so I didn't get into specifics with that, but saddler himself isn't constantly trying to kill Leon, but throughout the game he's constantly set traps and his guys go after him, is more so what I meant. plus the frequent radio chats telling him about his traps.
My only criticism of this video is he says “it’s better” “it’s perfect” “it’s good” in many point defending RE4 but never really explains why. For example he says how having an in game reticule is better bc it gives context but why is that better? I played both the remake and original and enjoyed battles more because the new reticule made me more accurate
Fair point. If I may elaborate, I believe having in game reticule is better because it draws us into the game world and character more. We’re looking down the same sights Leon is looking down, and thus think of his actions and our actions as the same. Also I am right all the time so I shouldn’t have to explain myself. Mods, get this guy out of here.
@@SalsaSeth I agree with that, and while it was nice that they included the red dot as an attachment, i and many others would’ve preferred it to be turned on in the option screen for all weapons like they’ve done in previous titles. Also reported for abuse, child endangerment and being a meanie
I just played it for the first time a week ago, and it's fun. I like sneaking around. Interface is way too over encumbered tho. Game is popular with kids, and idk how they fucking navigate the menus when it confuses my boomer brain.
i played re4 in controler and keybord and i never said that its bad with it and not enjoyable 😭 bro i found playing with mouse and keybord easyer the controler while im not saying im bad at controler i played most of my games on a controler so stop saying that evreybody who has a pc plays valorent like lmao 😂
And if you consider the fact that if you own an oculus quest 2 and play this masterpice in vr gets rid of standing still while shooting while moving is even better, but the npc call of duty fortnight Bayes get put to shame ither way.Resident evil 4 is one of the best horror survival shooters ever made don't listen to clowns, the internets full of them 🤣 Also i am a PC gamer and enjoied the resident evil old games with tank controles It's just a matter of time getting used to them
Re4 is the greatest game to ever exist. I played it on the GameCube back in 2010. Even with the Xbox 360 controllers and xbox one controllers it feels so fluid. The criticisms I mainly see are people complain about stuff that wasn't even a thing yet. Or how its not specifically designed for devices that werent even thought possible in 2005. The QTEs are awesome especially Krausers cutscene but on 60 fps versions theyre buggy so a lot of people hate them. Also the remake ruins everything good about the original and adds nothing worthwhile.
I grew up playing RE4, beat it over 10 times. It is outdated and looks poor right now. Controls were clearly desighned for gamepad (Or as first PC port for playing only one keyboard) and playing with mouse games in fact way too easy, gameplay dont creates tight situations, you just shoot in weakpoint, its always stagger, you always melee, and finish with knife (or gun because bullets arent realy a problem)
Dead Space Remake was better, weapons are better, more scary, NG+ has new monsters, ending, suits, collectibles. RE4 Remake is like, here's the exact same SHIT except you should run and flash grenade everything under 4 hours. Fuck that.
I've just cleared the remake and now I can't even think about replaying the OG one... the new RE4 is so good that ruined my good memories about the original one.
@@SalsaSeth when did i defend it? Its facts that you go on a hissy fit and speak bad about a certain player base. You literally speak more about valorant then the players.
I just don't play it cause leon is like a super cheesy agent like all they needed was some shades a black suit and he'd be a generic 80 FBI agent with how many cheesy lines he uses
That's just leon. Yes at first in this game it was supposed to be taken more seriously, but now throughout the years its become kind of a staple of his character. He's like a middle aged Frat Dad that never exactly fully matured and I'd like to think the majority of us love it. He has a like of cheesy one liners in RE Death Island and I for one enjoy it.
You wouldn't like the majority of gaming then, since cheesiness runs through the foundation of gaming like mountain dew runs through a fat kids veins. My advice lighten up, try new things and you might find it to your liking after all, if not then that's fine too, but don't just judge things at face value, you lose a lot of potentially amazing experiences that way, and you don't have to always be serious either, everyone and everything has a different charm to it, it doesn't have to all be bold-faced seriousness.@@ryanthereaper5032
Now the answer to this question lies with who is asking, if you are a normal gamer, the answer is easy yes, if you are a pink haired, gender unknown, tiktok life coach, average twitter user, reddit mod, discord mod, who whenever you take a picture of something needs to feature yourself in front of the object making the face, yeah it didn't age well, in fact it was always problematic from the start.
Has it aged well? Yes. But it still has aged a lot. Can't deny it's definitely aged. Also kinda ironic this guy whines and cries like a baby while calling other people crying babies
The aiming system in the original re4 made the game unplayable for me. I never made it past the first part of the village. Now that the remake is out I can say that after 20 years I finally beat this game.
@@SalsaSeth well coming from static camera angles was jarring enough in itself but I didn’t like how movement was locked while you were aiming and the laser reticle didn’t feel responsive enough. Plainly said, aiming was difficult for me in that game.
I don’t directly hate or criticize the remakes. I haven’t played RE4 Renake, but I have played RE2 and RE3 remakes, especially the RE2 remake. This video isn’t about comparing RE4 to its remake. It’s about how the original holds up over time.
@@SalsaSeth yeah and i like the og re4 as any reasonable person should, but any time you mention the remakes you don't very fond of them, like when you're listing off games potentially inspired by re4's mechanics
@@Frederika_Michelle I'm just spitting facts. The game looks as ugly as Fallout New Vegas. They really went for that rusty shit-filled toilet look that the 7th console generation is known for.
I think the visuals still hold up to an extent. Although I do recall the game looking very jarring coming off the incredible detail of RE1R and RE0 on GCN - but even back then I knew it wasn't possible to render a fully 3D environment that could look as good as the pre-rendered backgrounds. Still, the highly aliased and dithered image quality was a bit of an eyesore (though it's mostly noticeable only in the village). Stretching the screen to 'widescreen' (which is exactly what the Wii version's fake widescreen mode was) looked horrendous - basically resulting in a 360p image quality (maybe 240p). In HD, the image quality is cleaned up, but the incredibly low-resolution textures become far more apparent. It's funny because the textures are very detailed and 'realistic' in style, but you don't even need to get up that close to them to notice just how pixelated they are. I do believe the new(er) PC version and the Quest 2 version did improve many of the textures, but not by a lot, and in VR things look grainy anyway (due to the nature if VR in general, especially Quest 2). Overall, for its day, RE4 was definitely one of the most graphically impressive games of its day, and while some aspects, such as the character and enemy models, and overall art direction, still look great, it's not a game that would be remembered for being groundbreaking in any way - which may be the nature of being a GCN game with nothing else but an even worse performing PS2 port. I do often wonder how the game might have looked had it released on the OG Xbox as lead platform (which apparently Mikami originally intended to).
this is the downfall of resident evil to me. i hated RE4, i still hate RE4, and pretty much everything else after has been crap. RE4 is one of the worst games i have ever played
@@BeannJuice I think they stopped after CV. Also , maybe they played RE 1 remastered since it's the literal port of the gamecube remake of the original RE. Clearly one of the old school RE fans who never liked the TPS camera. I understand where they're coming from. 4 really changed RE forever. I could understand this because my favorite RE games are 1,2 and 3 Nemesis. I like 4 and the remakes, but I never considered them true RE games, that's not RE anymore. There is a game called Tormented souls, it looks and feels more RE than RE itself lol
@@HeLL1Striker that is very kind of you to speak on their behalf in regards of my question. although, i would rather get a straight answer from the original commentator on the games they played before the stopped at RE4 (2004).
I do get where you're coming from, even if RE4 is one of my favorite games ever it changed a lot in RE for the best and for the worst. The OTS camera for me was an improvement even if I also liked the fixed camera but for others it killed the atmosphere of RE games, then the shift from horror to action gave birth to abominations like RE5, RE6 or RE8. Finally that intro with "stocks killed Umbrella" is easily one of the worst moments in the RE franchise. You have this pharmaceutical corporation doing biological weapons responsible for the first RE games, then you have RE2 ending with Leon saying it up to them to take out Umbrella, RE3 with Jill going to join Chris to take out Umbrella, CV with Chris and Claire saying that now they take the fight to Umbrella, all those games building a climatic final part to the Umbrella arc, so now enter RE4, where's Umbrella at? Lmao stocks killed Umbrella because the game creators were tired of Umbrella and Zombies so they moved on (and no Umbrella Chronicles is not that ending that we should have gotten).
I purchased a Game Cube just to play RE4, RE4 is the only game I have for the Game Cube, plays very well, slightly different to the PS4, still good on the PS4 though. RE4 is my most favourite with TLOU 1&2 a very close second. RE4 has not aged.
Has Resident Evil 4 aged well, yeah its still fun to play. Resident Evil game that does the series proud, um no. Resident Evil 4 is like a coked up version of Resident Evil, vomiting resources all over the place and suplexing someone because they missed their chance to fill up their cup full of beer.
Quite literally still the gold standard for action horror, even with the remake out this game has a kind of gameplay loop that the remake didn't fully capture.
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The controls to me never felt 'bad' at all. It's just the style of game that it was. The problem nowadays is that every god damn game needs to play the same exact way.
Ikr
I wrapped up yet another run of the original RE4 a while ago after finishing its remake, hyperbole doesn't even begin to approach just how well this game comes together. RE4 is underrated if anything, It belongs in some non-existent hall-of-fame on how to absolutely perfectly fucking nail the whole gaming experience. Didn't age well my ass. It shits on most video games that come out today in terms of design.
Good video btw. Love Castlevania's music.
It's probably the best paced game I've ever played. Very, very little of resident evil 4 could ever be considered mediocre or unfun.
Agree up to the military island, that section of the game was dull, murky, repetitive and draaaaaaaaaaged oooooooooooon for way too long. The castle however was awesome
The concept of holding up doesn't even apply to RE4. If anything, modern third person shooters don't hold up to RE4.
Omg so spot on
OG RE4 is a stiff af in terms of movement and gameplay. Standing still while shooting isn’t the damn standard for a 3rd person shooter.
@@lilpimp994thats because the game is supposed to be art direction and simple thing with easy controls. Y'all are just used to terrible modern controls
@@BlackThief843 I can still play REmake just fine with its tank controls. RE4 is stiff no matter how you look at it.
@@lilpimp994 thats a you problem cuz not many people had that problem, just skill issue
RE4 in wii is the best gaming experience I've ever had.
I tried the original Re4 just really struggled with the Tank controls but I dont think it's aged poorly just each to their own in gaming style. I Loved the remake and completed twice.
Yeah :)
For me, it's the combination of tank controls without the ability to aim and shoot that make it hard to go back to and throughout enjoy. All of its strengths are still bright as day, but it definitely has weaknesses.
I realized that enemies infinitely spawned in the water room when I tried hiding both of us in the pressure plate room and a Ganado spawned behind me instead of coming through a door
They don’t infinitely spawn, there’s just a lot of them that keep spawning. Depending on how well you’ve been playing, you could end up with sniper crossbows, or after bringing down a bridge, a swarm of scythe wielded.
It’s not infinite, but it might as well feel infinite.
I personally think the villages art direction fits really well, it does a good job at making you feel lost and alone at least it did for me on my first play through
I think that’s thanks to the level design more than to the art direction. But I’m willing to say I got a hot take on my hands.
Was watching Dragon Maid before it got interrupted by the current SpongeBob rewatch, and I liked it :) besides some eyebrow raising scenes.
The HD release that came out in 2014 probably should've been mentioned in this video. It only improved the graphics, but it improved them incredibly well. Nothing was redesigned or different, only more detailed.
The castle actually became really good to look at.
Also, the HD remake makes the game really good to play with using a mouse and keyboard on the PC. It's one of my comfort games, something I go to for a 20 minute break after a strenuous day of work.
i love this game so much, and even for an "old" game it feels relatively modern. the remake is amazing as well but they're different enough to both still be enjoyed.
I can't stop laughing at how much you just come at valorant 😂
My first time playing RE4 I didn't appreciate the game as much as I do now. I didn't like the departure from the old style, especially after RE1 remake. I replayed it a few years ago recently on the wii and think the game is genuinely perfect (or at least really close to it). It's one of the most consistently fun games I have ever played.
It aged better than the remake. After one playthrough of the remake I was burnt out. The Merchant is the reason for this. You want a laser sight? Go wash the Merchant’s muddy lifted pick-up truck. Want a treasure map so you can grind for treasure? Go mow the Merchant’s lawn. You want the final upgrade for a weapon? Make Capcoms CEO come through his pants.
Yeah I played the game 1,5 times and first round was on Hardcore, which was a huge mistake because enemies almost never gets stunned which means less fun melees... not that the melees in RE4make are any good anyway... Feels like the new devs didn't understand what made RE4 fun...
@@DarkZide8 Yeah at least with the melee in the original you could reliably stun enemies. Which is a big issue when the remake puts more focus on melee than any other Resident Evil. The shooting feels unreliable too. Sweaty people tell me they can always get head shots even with an imprecise reticle, which makes no sense to me.
It’s clunky until you learn to play then it becomes very natural
Facts loved the original RE4 so much.
@@BryanCinemas same
I don't have any console or pc I played on my phone using ps2 emulator. it was a really good experience
In my opinion, RE4 on Wii aged the best, because it’s extremely easy to pull off the quick time events. You either press A and B together or shake your controller. You can be sneaky and do both at the same time 😎
The Wii version's controls were so good that I couldn't play the game with non-motion aiming again - even the HD versions. When RE5 came out I had to force myself to try and enjoy the old control scheme. I would even buy the game on PS3 and the stupid motion controllers JUST to be able to use motion aiming again (although it still wasn't as accurate as the Wii version).
I think that RE4 in VR is defenitely the best one now, but yeah, the Wii version was amazing - especially considering it was clearly a lazy port.
The biggest issue I have with the Wii version is the low-resolution, especially if you want tonplay on an HDTV in widescreen. The game legit just crops and zooms in on the standard letterbox 480p picture, resulting in an even more atrocious image quality. It looks like it's 360p. Maybe even worse. Even the PS2 version in widescreen had better image quality (though the actual graphics were still 'worse'). A shame Capcom didn't take the time to actually render the game in true anamorphic widescreen (which they literally advertise on the back of the box). They managed to do it for Umbrella / Darkside Chronicles, so why not RE4? I understand it was a quick cheap port and all but damn. It's the one glaring flaw I had with the Wii version, which is a shame because the controls were so good.
There's a reason why so many people still play this game to this day and even some playing the classic in more recent years. It has a style, a certain gameplay, balances it, and embraces it.
OG RE4 has aged very well which isn't surprising since it's one of the most influential games ever. Almost every 3rd person game made today should be thanking Shinji Mikami and Capcom Studio 4/Clover in their credits.
Bought this for my nintendo switch , took a minute to get used to the controls again but omce it clicks , it clicks and the controls feel much more natural .
It's on like ~15 different platform and has different versions, including VR and a remake, what do you think? Yes it aged well, because really it barely aged at all
In terms of tank controls, ask yourself when was the last time you walked sideways.
All the time. I’m a fucking crab. My pokemon team is Kingler, Crawdaunt, Crabomibale, Klawf, Crustle, and Clawitzer
I love tank controls, but they were never implemented *because* of the difficulty they introduced. They were implemented because they were necessary for the fixed camera angles of RE1-3/C:V/0, and the stress they induced just happened to fit the games. They were presumably kept in 4 because of tradition and the newness of the third person shooter genre not having standards set at the time.
Second comment, I also want to say that there is no such thing as outdated game design. Design is all about intent, it has to have a purpose. If it fulfills that purpose well, then it's good design. If not, then it's bad design, simple as that.
This is true, but back in the day we were far more forgiving about certain game design choices that in retrospect don't hold up so well. Mario 64's camera for example.
Then there's the reverse case scenario in which people bitched about the controls of games like Alien Resurrection on PS1 or Turok on N64 which would essentially lay the groundwork for the modern FPS dual-analogue setup that has since become the standard for console FPSs.
This. Just cause fixed camera angles aren't mainstream anymore doesn't mean they're bad design, there's a reason CV used them even after there was no technical reason to do so.
i first played the game a month or two ago, (i didnt know there was a remake at first) and ive beaten it 7 times already, its just a delight
The remake was a fun blast but nothings gonna beat the original it’s damn near perfect
Oh my god!! This guy is so funny. Id want to know his thoughts on other survival horror games too now
I prefer the original re4 to the remake. The remake is amazing and they did a great job keeping it true to the og but the original just has something about that I love. I love the brown and cold European countryside with the perfect soundtrack and characters. I love playing the Xbox one port
I would say yes this game still looks great and like a game that has come out in the last 10 years or so but its actually 18 years old.
RE4 PC player here, played it last year and it has since become one of my favorite games of all time, I now own a physical copy on GameCube as well. And I must say, it plays fucking amazing on mouse and keyboard. Idk what actual baby told you that it doesn’t play well on mouse and keyboard, it plays so well it almost feels like cheating.
I recall watching a streamer having issues with the controls, but that was a few years ago. But in general, I saw them in a Twitter thread.
Is the PC Port’s logic still tied to its frame rate or did that get fixed?
@@SalsaSethI haven’t tried frame rates other than 30 out of curiosity and 60 for my play throughs. But I mean, 60 for a game that originally ran in 30 is great. Also used a mod that was highly recommended on PCGamingWiki called RE4_Tweaks that adds a bunch of options to the game that the PC port should have had, like removing VSYNC, an FOV slider, even graphical elements from the GameCube Version. Really great mod, I think essential for any RE4 play through on PC
there's only one part that flat out didn't work on mouse and keyboard, and that was the del Lago boss fight. I remember thinking that was really difficult until I played it on controller and beat it instantly.
(I should specify this was the version available on steam)
@@you_were_the_chosen_one oh shit yeah I do remember that feeling like ass lol, funny enough the mod I mentioned actually does fix that too.
Agreed on the mouse controls. If anything thats exactly why you shouldn't play with a mouse: the game was not designed with it in mind at all. It's the same problem I have with the wii version. The controls feel great, but they do nothing to compensate for how your aiming is now much faster and more precise than the devs designed the game around, so overall I feel it makes the game worse
People who play this game on keyboard are the equivalent of people who play rts games on console
I've beaten the 1st shitty PC port back in the day because I had no other options and I really liked the game. It was that good
@@steelbear2063 you’re not talking about the Ubisoft port are you?
I actually find the RTS on console to be easier to manage. On PC I end up just pointing and clicking things with the mouse since the buttons on the keyboard are so spaced apart. I was better as Command and Conquer when I had it on Xbox.
I’ve been playing the original since 2014 as well and aside from the art direction, QTEs and the pacing in the last third of the campaign, I feel the original is still a fun game to play. I think OG RE4 is one of those games where growing up with it makes it harder to see the areas where its aged and by extension, makes it harder to recommend to your friends who aren’t familiar with its quirks. The game was designed with its controls in mind and while they work, they have aged to a certain extent and represent the time in which the game was made. Conversely, while RE4R feels smoother to play with omnidirectional movement, being able to aim and shoot while moving, knife parries and stealth kills, said knife was given a durability meter and enemies were made smarter and more aggressive to compensate for your new abilities. While both have their merits and detractors, I do feel Remake is the more approachable game for newcomers and is my preference. I don’t think the original has aged BADLY per se, but certain aspects feel a little archaic and I see where some people are coming from
"Y'know, I coulda saved myself a bunch of time by just tweeting, 'Stop saying games aged poorly and just say you hate old games.' Oh well."
About that: I know it's obviously a joke, but this kind of topic is always better talked about in lengthy detail like you just did on this video. I'm only saying this because I've been thinking a lot about this stuff recently, and it's refreshing to see someone actually putting those thoughts into light. So, I guess the point I'm trying to get across is, simply: I'm grateful. Really. Thank you so much for this video.
I fucking hate valorant (i have never played it)
Same, bro
If I recall correctly, regarding the tank controls, didn't Resi4 use the type where you use both sticks at once for more efficient movement and also have a quick-turn button?
You have a quick turn around, but the right control stick is just used for moving the camera around.
They changed that in a lot of the many HD-ports. If you play the version on Steam you are using the right stick when aiming and even right trigger for shooting.@@SalsaSeth
@@SalsaSeth I admittedly haven't replayed it in years and I feel dumb asking, but was the quick turn for the camera, Leon or both? Looking up the controls for the GameCube and Wii versions as a refresher seems to suggest free movement with the left stick as well, so I might've been thinking of a different tank-style Capcom game to begin with.
@@ElFreakinCid how it worked was, when you did a quick turn around, Leon would turn first, and then the camera would do a turn around to get behind Leon's shoulders.
@@SalsaSeth Ah, right, thanks. I hope I get the chance to play again soon, I hate sounding so inexperienced about games I've already played. :c
Only thing that aged poorly is people's brains :D
I'm still playing eery now and then, RE4 is and always will be my favourite
There're definitely things you can criticize RE4 for, including things that have only become less standard as time has gone on (like lack of subtitles in some versions), but it always seems to be focused on the fact it isn't the same as the new games. Like, it's ok for different games in a series to be different games instead of just different campaigns with interchangeable gameplay mechanics and visual styles. It's ok for Devil May Cry 1 to not be Devil May Cry 5 or Metal Gear 1 to not be MGSV Part 3
I disagree about the art style though. It isn't my favorite in the series but it makes use of the GameCube well and has a stylization all its own. It isn't as strong as REmake or VII but it's definitely got its own identity
Short answer: YES! (Watch out for Professional Mode)
PC gamer here. RE4 2005 for PC is an absolute dream.
Wii and Steam version are the definitive ways To play OG RE4 definitely.
@@SonicAdventureEnjoyerwith Project HD Mod i must insist!
The answer is Yes, and I still like it more than the Remake.
100%
I agree on everything besides the art direction, hell i prefer the OG's one over the remake, i feel like the remake is overly cluttered just to flex how "Next Gen" it is and takes away from that unique feel the OG had. I think the brown era of games was pretty tough to look at sometimes but, there are examples like RE4 and NFS: Most Wanted where i feel like it serves an actual purpose rather than being brown and dark for the sake of it. The castle also serves as a nice rest on the eyes from all the brownery of the village, and talking about the castle, i think there's where the OG's art direction beats the remake the most. In the remake, the castle looks too dark for my taste, and you can say that the overly bright castle from the OG is unrealistic and some people may even not like it at all but, in my opinion i think it serves to create that vibe that i cant really explain, vibe that has been lost in the remake's castle. And this being the first video of yours that i've seen so far im looking forward to more content like this
i agree and not even that they made locations smaller and like u said cluttered and dark and u just don’t really get those same vibes same thing with ambience and hearing chanting etc it’s just kinda soulless and they cut way too much out the game way to many locations and the lack of dialogue and conversation between ashley and just him commenting on things that are happening and what he finds, i also hate the fact that they don’t even have leon on the side of the attachment case and that u can only use the laser on like 2 guns and there the worst guns like who cares about being realistic or resident evil lol
Still haven't played the remake myself, I only watched my friend Jekrix play the chainsaw demo, so I can't speak of the remakes art direction, but I can imagine that the devs intent on expanding on the original game could've blinded them to what made the original art design work.
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@@SalsaSeth Haha, i didn't know about that port, i play the PC version with a couple of mods that fixes it up pretty good. HD Reflections, Widescreen Fix, Extra Options, Gamepad support, etc
Don't get me wrong i loved the remake and i think it's graphically stunning but, i think i love the original too much and would rather have it be more faithful
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The hate on valorant makes the video 1000000 times better
I love re4 for ehat it is. Tank control and ashley adds to difficulty and the atmosphere is soo good. My no.3 game. 1st is splinter cell (ct) and 2nd would be smackdown htcp.
I would love to give the Splinter Cell games a shot, especially since Chaos Theory's on GameCube, (I'm a GameCube Hoe).
I love Michael Ironside in Total Recall and Transformers Prime.
great video man!!!!
There's only 2 things in RE4 that are less than perfect, 8 way aiming instead of full 360 degree aiming, it's not a huge difference but playing dead Space which is basically RE4 in Space or even nearly any other shooter and going back to RE4 does feel kinda wrong at first, it's a quick adjustment but it's still an adjustment and it still just never feels as good to aim as full 360 motion. And Mercenaries mode, that's the only point where the gameplay feels too frantic for the tank controls especially once the instakill enemies start getting spammed, needed a smoother ramp up at the very least
Resident evil 4 is a timeless masterpiece, excellent video!
Started first playing in 2021. I disagree with the Art Direction. The Village has this deadly ghosttown feel with the gray skies, the old and broken Village making it look like a lost place. It was made to make the game more eerie and combining it with the soundtrack should make it way obvious. The Castle as example isnt just generic dark bloody hallways - its bright, it feels to normal, it feels uncomfortable and its also very open. I felt being watched at my first playthrough and the soundtrack helped a lot. Not only makes it the game more visible (which is a big problem of the remake being so dark) it also makes it more eerie and special in its own way!
But hey nobody remembers RE4 for its good atmosphare because we played it all so friggin much that we start to forget the atmosphare, the great eerie areas, the ambience etc.
I can remember when I was looking behind me all the time at the castle because I felt like someone was standing behind me. Funnily enough didnt happen at the Remake even with those bloody, dark, long and closely hallways... The original was way more creepier for me. It was also the only Resident Evil Title funny enough which made me scared. Not even RE1R scared me, none of the stuff RE7 or RE8 throwed scared me really.
Finally someone who did not get scared from re7, like it was not scary at all.
its those type of games where newcomers would be scared but long time horror fans would not.@@giwi4
@@realnickhiro RE7 was my 1st horror(I don't count action resident evils as horror games) I never played a horror game before RE7, and it didn't scare me like almost all of my horror games I played.
I think they are just babies who get scared from anything.
I agree. RE4 was funnily enough the most unnerving one for me (but I wouldnt call it scary).Outlast and Cry of Fear (before it got popular) back in the day actually scared me but this was also like a decade ago. @@giwi4
I played the remake and it was outstanding. I bought the original and couldn't deal with the nauseating camera. Maybe I need to be more patient with it but I had to stop playing it.
My "you guys are gonna kill me" take is
I think I like the remake better.
Get his ass
Jokes aside, I don’t mind if you like the remake more than the original. Its got a chainsaw duel.
RE4make is kinda on par with the og. Sometimes better, sometimes worse, can't go wrong with either version
@@SalsaSeth lol! ikr.
I feel like there's some people that would chase me with torches and pitchforks like Frankensteins monster for saying that 😆
i grew up during the original resident evil releases, and re4 (2005) was the first resident evil game that i beat. i did go back and beat all the numbered re games. but im glad for the remake cause i tried to go back abd play it a couple yrs ago and i had so much trouble with the tank controls, and ashleys ai was horrible. granted i was playing on the pc port with a controller, and it had sum lag issues. even the remake dont lag as much as the original did on my laptop, and the updated controls, the parry system, ashleys updated ai, and the discontinuation of quik time events made the game so much better imo. the original was good for its time, but the remake is good for the present. i like the remakes of the resident evil games and i go back and play them regularly. im waiting for re9 to come out to see if characters for the earlier games will make a return and what will happen next, and if they take on the bsaa for using bioweapons in the ending part of re village.
Slowdown was caused by your laptop not being able to reach the fps target, be it 30 or most likely 60, setting it to 30 and/or lowering settings like anti-aliasing could fix that
Played it this year after the remake and its good, had fun even though I got stuck on several moments of the game. It aged well and also screw Valorant.
This is fucking sick I love this video and style
The chanting the castle ganados do still creep the sh*t out of me😂 busy doing another playthrough of the original re4, still a great game
There are some things I do like in the remake that I wish could be brought over into the original: More variety in the Ganado models, more use of blue medallions, Luis' redone backstory and extended screentime, and maybe the bolt thrower if it didn't break the remake.
But in all honestly, I prefer the original game. This isn't nostalgia, the remake is good, definitely far better than RE Village which has already aged like expired milk and is a poor man's RE4, but the original has way more charm, more refined combat and better game design, more likeable and memorable villains, Ashley is a lot less annoying (People who say she is are bad at the original game, because that's the only time she can be annoying is if you are bad at protecting her) than her remake version. The soundtrack is memorable and more pronounced/defined, the merchant is a lot less annoying (Dude won't shut up in the remake), and it also has way better art direction.
Speaking of which, you mention that the art direction in the original is bad because the game is mostly brown, you do know that art direction is more than just about colors, right? It's aesthetics, it's styles, it's the feeling of the environment or location that you are in. One example of the original game having better art direction than the remake is in the U.I of the Inventory, where the original has this rusty metallic aesthetic to it, with Leon standing on the side, while the remake has pitch-blackness with smoke and no Leon, it's completely devoid of any sense of art in that regard.
The only version of this game I can still go back and play is the Wii version. Every other version is extremely stiff. I prefer the remake.
It is still a great game
No, the original has not aged badly. I don't like it when remake elitists say the original is bad because it's different from the remake. I also don't like it when someone says a game hasn't aged well. Sure, I prefer the original's art style. I'm not a fan of Nick Apostolides as Leon unlike The Sphere Hunter. Does that mean I think the original Biohazard 4 is the greatest game of all-time? No. For me the greatest game ever is 30XX, but that's just me. If someone thinks the original Biohazard 4 or the remake is the best game of all-time, that's fine. As for the GameCube version of Biohazard 4 being the best, I disagree. It's got less content than later versions. It's not a bad version though.
RE4 remake is every bit as good as everyone says it is, but RE4 never needed a remake because og RE4 has aged very well. Instead we should be getting an RE CV remake, or even an RE0 Remake. Those two games really need the remake treatment.
I think Resident Evil 4 Remake is overrated. They changed the fundamentals in the gameplay and instead of strategic positioning for firing and melee it is now run'n'gun. It's not as fun as the original.
@@DarkZide8wasn't og run'n'gun?
Disagree that any game Needs a remake. If CV 1 and 0 "need" remakes cause they're a different style than 4 onwards, then what about 4 once those games are done? It'd be the odd one out with tank controls. The fixed camera angles, character based movement, adventure game style gameplay of the pre-4 games are just as thought out and worth it as 4's own quirks. RE should ease up on the remakes overall, 3 of the last 4 major games have been remakes, that's ridiculous.
@@Akay4444444444444444 The classic RE games are still popular till this day. Remaking these 20 plus year old amazing games under this new amazing RE Engine is a brilliant idea, as long as the story is handled right of course. In my opinion, i think Capcom cut out too much in the RE2 and RE3 remakes and didn't really substitute with much. RE4 remake, on the other hand, was handled excellently. It added while also retaining a lot of its original core elements. All in all, remaking these classic RE games is great. These old titles need to be brought back and used under these new gaming advancements.
@@tigga2300 Remakes are still different games though. Remaking 2 and 3 didn't make the original 2 or 3 any more accessible on modern hardware, it just made a new game based on those. Like the remakes are good games (well, I haven't played 4) but they are not the same experiences. A game is more than just a story after all, otherwise we'd all just be reading plot summaries on Wikipedia, and with how heavily 2make and 3 change you can't even say the story is the same either with how many elements are completely changed, like Kendo, Ada's cover story, Nicholai's allegiance, etc. I'd rather Capcom make some more new stories whether they be prequels, sequels, or set between games like Revelations, rather than dangling nostalgia shaved into the series current standard mold.
The only downside to RE4 nowadays is that the ports constantly fuck with the controls.
GameCube - B button is on the left side, therefore left button should always work like that.
Xbox Port - B button is on right side? We'll just move the function to the wrong side to keep the same lettering.
GCN's Z for Map translates to Right Bumper or R1, easy conversion. Naw, let's remap it to the Y or Triangle button, then change menu to Start.
Like FFS.
Love the video though one thing I will say is that as someone who grew up using a controller for FPS games for a decade and then switched to PC I am physically unable to enjoy ANY shooters on controller anymore and this had been the case for about 90% of my friends who followed the same path. I understand the logic but I am physically incapable of playing a game with a controller now and it has been this way since around the 2 year mark of switching.
This also really sucks because I can't get any of my friends into a series like the campaigns of Gears of War 1-3 because the fact that you have to use a controller killed almost all of the fun even if the game is a masterpiece and I can't even replay them myself. My biggest pet peeve is when a game has a bad PC port and the comments are "bro just use a controller"
Most shooters are usually designed with keyboard and mouse controls in mind. RE4 was originally designed with a controller in mind. I talked about RE4's PC controls because I heard offhand how they disliked how it played on keyboard. But multiple people in the comments have said, "nah fam, keyboard makes it easy mode."
My question for you is every game impossible to play on controller? I primarily play on console, but when I do play PC games (usually Minecraft) I don't find trouble going back. Like do you play platformers (Celeste, Pizza Tower, Cuphead) on keyboard? You might want to just rebind the controllers buttons to what's comfortable. My friend Jekrix, they're really into Celeste, and they control that game using only the shoulder buttons. Maybe experiment with that.
@@SalsaSeth No I can play basically every game that isn't a shooter on controller but I still prefer the mouse and keyboard if at all possible. Jedi Survivor is a good example that everyone said was basically unplayable on mouse but it was fine for me. I recently replayed a bunch of Zelda games on controller and it was great outside of stuff like the horseback bow and arrow sections.
The best way to describe it is that there is a disconnect in my brain now because I used to be really good and now there in a huge mental handicap.
We tried to get my mom to play Stanley Parable when it came out on PC and her brain could not wrap itself around the controls. I'm not like that per say since I understand HOW it works but in a similar way my brain cannot do what it used to be able to do aiming with a controller to anywhere near the same extent so it kills the game entirely for me and the same with a lot of my friends who also switched to PC.
That's the best way I can really describe it. By the way I did still enjoy RE4 on PC and probably even more than I did playing it on the GameCube as a kid. I do agree it felt like playing on easy mode to an extent.
It's definitely hard to go back to dual-analogue for shooters once you get used to the precision of mouse aiming. The Wii version of RE4 made it impossible for me to go back to the original controls (even when the HD versions released). I wouldn't even play another version of the game until the VR port came out.
As for the PC version, I bought it and I love mouse aiming - but I simply can't stand keyboard controls. Usually on PC I use a convoluted setup in which I use the mouse with my right hand and then I hold a controller in my left hand. The results here vary, as I can only access the left stick and a few buttons on the controller with my left hand, and theres only so many functions I can assign to the mouse. For some reason though, RE4 on PC won't let me use a controller and mouse controls at the same time, so I'm out of luck there.
@@N.i.E.M.O Gah damn
I’ve never played or ever heard of Valorant, but your glowing anti-endorsement did the job. I won’t play it the way I’ve played RE4 and remake…religiously.
I’ve never played TF2 but I can easily recommend TF2 over Valorant.
Re4 og is better than the remake
your comment have exactly 0 value
its not.
@koneserchleba3284 thanks for your input👍
Because you don’t have to quit your job and abandon your kids to “go get milk” so you can grind 3,000,000 pesetas for the infinite rocket launcher. As well as grind for all the other things this game has to offer. Or you can skip the 1/10 parts of the game by giving Capcom money for weapon tickets.
Fun video you uploaded. And you say "FU-K" with the best of them! To be honest, which is difficult for me because I lie compulsively. Kidding. Actually, I find the old RE4 quite difficult. I use the PS5 to play it and I can't figure out how to move with any expertise whatsoever. Maybe I should reprogram the controller as close to the Nintendo as you suggest ....
The settings to change the controls can make it play similarly to the GameCube, although because of how the PlayStation controller is designed, it's not 1 to 1.
I do firmly believe that RE4 wasn't meant to shoot with the triggers. That might be why you're having trouble.
it still holds up and I still like the original over the remake. the re4 remake is an odd one, because its a game that didn't need a remake. I always thought remakes were for legendary games that were clearly outdated in todays times and by popular demand gets a remake. re4 is a legendary game but its not severely outdated, and I didn't hear many people demanding a remake like how they did with the re2 remake. and the remake was good, but the unnecessary changes they made such as dialogue, personality (Leon not being funny), and slight plot changes is what made me pick the original over remake.
for example saddler is the main villain, in the remake this dude isn't shown til near the end of the game, and you have no reason to kill him other than its your mission. in the original he's constantly trying to kill Leon throughout the game, and then in a shocking brutal scene he kills Luis who was a good friend to Leon, giving Leon and the player a reason to hate him. in the remake all of that is absent, Luis still dies but Leon and Luis don't have any sort of relationship at all in the remake, so his death didn't mean much to Leon.
Saddler has less presence in the remake and is perhaps more generic, but the original Saddler was definitely not "constantly " trying to kill Leon. The first time he meets leon, he monologues to him and lets him and Ashley escape. He also kills Luis in the original and then dips, leaving Leon alone.
@@SittingBass sorry I was typing a whole lot so I didn't get into specifics with that, but saddler himself isn't constantly trying to kill Leon, but throughout the game he's constantly set traps and his guys go after him, is more so what I meant. plus the frequent radio chats telling him about his traps.
I hate Valorant as much as the next guy but you do have to stand still to shoot accurately you move one inch and you won’t hit a single shot
I was taking a dump on Valorant for the sake of taking a dump. I’ve never played it and didnt think of its mechanics while writing this video.
if anyone says the controls did not age well then u just a big Lier and a big noob who just wants smooth stuff
Tank controls are cool, it's a style, a genre. Stay cool Leon.
My only criticism of this video is he says “it’s better” “it’s perfect” “it’s good” in many point defending RE4 but never really explains why. For example he says how having an in game reticule is better bc it gives context but why is that better? I played both the remake and original and enjoyed battles more because the new reticule made me more accurate
Fair point. If I may elaborate, I believe having in game reticule is better because it draws us into the game world and character more. We’re looking down the same sights Leon is looking down, and thus think of his actions and our actions as the same.
Also I am right all the time so I shouldn’t have to explain myself. Mods, get this guy out of here.
@@SalsaSeth I agree with that, and while it was nice that they included the red dot as an attachment, i and many others would’ve preferred it to be turned on in the option screen for all weapons like they’ve done in previous titles.
Also reported for abuse, child endangerment and being a meanie
It's the real deal. It was designed a certain way, and it's awesome. The new one is poo poo generic.
i enjoy c:
i enjoy...... you :]
whoag@@SalsaSeth
1 word: Yes ish
The thumbnail man 😂😂😂😂
i know, man, I fuckin giggle at it every now and then.
It genuinely makes me sad to think that my brother is gonna grow up playing Fortnite instead of this masterpiece. 😅😢
Think tank controls suck ass but i hate valorant too so u got my like
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
Fortnite is also a trash game, too. And that's an objective truth
I just played it for the first time a week ago, and it's fun. I like sneaking around. Interface is way too over encumbered tho. Game is popular with kids, and idk how they fucking navigate the menus when it confuses my boomer brain.
i played re4 in controler and keybord and i never said that its bad with it and not enjoyable 😭
bro i found playing with mouse and keybord easyer the controler while im not saying im bad at controler i played most of my games on a controler so stop saying that evreybody who has a pc plays valorent like lmao
😂
And if you consider the fact that if you own an oculus quest 2 and play this masterpice in vr gets rid of standing still while shooting while moving is even better, but the npc call of duty fortnight Bayes get put to shame ither way.Resident evil 4 is one of the best horror survival shooters ever made don't listen to clowns, the internets full of them 🤣 Also i am a PC gamer and enjoied the resident evil old games with tank controles It's just a matter of time getting used to them
Yes
My main issue with Ashley is the constant yelling. I agree that the QuickTime events are terrible in the cut scenes.
Re4 is the greatest game to ever exist. I played it on the GameCube back in 2010.
Even with the Xbox 360 controllers and xbox one controllers it feels so fluid.
The criticisms I mainly see are people complain about stuff that wasn't even a thing yet. Or how its not specifically designed for devices that werent even thought possible in 2005.
The QTEs are awesome especially Krausers cutscene but on 60 fps versions theyre buggy so a lot of people hate them.
Also the remake ruins everything good about the original and adds nothing worthwhile.
I grew up playing RE4, beat it over 10 times.
It is outdated and looks poor right now. Controls were clearly desighned for gamepad (Or as first PC port for playing only one keyboard) and playing with mouse games in fact way too easy, gameplay dont creates tight situations, you just shoot in weakpoint, its always stagger, you always melee, and finish with knife (or gun because bullets arent realy a problem)
Dead Space Remake was better, weapons are better, more scary, NG+ has new monsters, ending, suits, collectibles. RE4 Remake is like, here's the exact same SHIT except you should run and flash grenade everything under 4 hours. Fuck that.
bro clean your controller
>:(
Yes, it has aged well, which is why the remake was so pointless and stupid.
you sound miserable
RE2 also aged well, it's just not a style that appeals to the masses anymore. And RE2's remake is fantastic.
@@Akay4444444444444444 They couldn't even afford to bring back Alyson Court as Claire.
Not for me, the game bored me so bad that I stopped my playthrough on it.
I've just cleared the remake and now I can't even think about replaying the OG one... the new RE4 is so good that ruined my good memories about the original one.
Then you probably never played the original
Yes.
RE4 > RE4 remake
5 min in and all i hear is you simping for re4 and talking smack about valorant. Next vid
UH OH! WE GOT A VALORANT PLAYER IN CHAT!!
@@SalsaSeth i dont even have a pc. stop coping and be more creative on your vids 🤡
@@BlGO559 you don’t play Valorant, and you felt the need to defend it.
@@SalsaSeth when did i defend it? Its facts that you go on a hissy fit and speak bad about a certain player base. You literally speak more about valorant then the players.
Games don't age. Unless that game is the original Alone in the Dark.
Lmao
I just don't play it cause leon is like a super cheesy agent like all they needed was some shades a black suit and he'd be a generic 80 FBI agent with how many cheesy lines he uses
That's just leon. Yes at first in this game it was supposed to be taken more seriously, but now throughout the years its become kind of a staple of his character. He's like a middle aged Frat Dad that never exactly fully matured and I'd like to think the majority of us love it. He has a like of cheesy one liners in RE Death Island and I for one enjoy it.
Bruh, that's exactly what makes Leon so cool
@@arkanjoteixeira just my opinion but it just seems too cheesy
@@ryanthereaper5032 thats the point lol
You wouldn't like the majority of gaming then, since cheesiness runs through the foundation of gaming like mountain dew runs through a fat kids veins. My advice lighten up, try new things and you might find it to your liking after all, if not then that's fine too, but don't just judge things at face value, you lose a lot of potentially amazing experiences that way, and you don't have to always be serious either, everyone and everything has a different charm to it, it doesn't have to all be bold-faced seriousness.@@ryanthereaper5032
Now the answer to this question lies with who is asking, if you are a normal gamer, the answer is easy yes, if you are a pink haired, gender unknown, tiktok life coach, average twitter user, reddit mod, discord mod, who whenever you take a picture of something needs to feature yourself in front of the object making the face, yeah it didn't age well, in fact it was always problematic from the start.
What
@@SalsaSeth yes
Average normal gamer when nobody has said anything about gender or tiktok or whatever:
@@Akay4444444444444444 There is only 2 genders: gamer or Cringe
Has it aged well? Yes. But it still has aged a lot. Can't deny it's definitely aged. Also kinda ironic this guy whines and cries like a baby while calling other people crying babies
It takes a baby to know a baby 😎
valorant bby spotted
I have the 2007 pc version from ubisoft, even valorant is better than that broken shitshow.
False no game is as bad Valorant.
The aiming system in the original re4 made the game unplayable for me. I never made it past the first part of the village. Now that the remake is out I can say that after 20 years I finally beat this game.
What did you find troublesome about the aiming
@@SalsaSeth well coming from static camera angles was jarring enough in itself but I didn’t like how movement was locked while you were aiming and the laser reticle didn’t feel responsive enough. Plainly said, aiming was difficult for me in that game.
Skill issue
@@steelbear2063 please don’t antagonize people who are speaking their opinions in good faith.
@@steelbear2063you're really cool
stop hatin on the remakes man, why can't we all just enjoy resident evil?
I don’t directly hate or criticize the remakes. I haven’t played RE4 Renake, but I have played RE2 and RE3 remakes, especially the RE2 remake.
This video isn’t about comparing RE4 to its remake. It’s about how the original holds up over time.
@@SalsaSeth yeah and i like the og re4 as any reasonable person should, but any time you mention the remakes you don't very fond of them, like when you're listing off games potentially inspired by re4's mechanics
@@brothermidgus8448 my guy, I just told you I like them. And that segment was listing off games inspired by RE4. The remakes included
@@brothermidgus8448dude you can't specially understand the video's point
Resident Evil 4 (2005) looks like poopy.
cry about it
@@Frederika_Michelle I'm just spitting facts.
The game looks as ugly as Fallout New Vegas. They really went for that rusty shit-filled toilet look that the 7th console generation is known for.
Enjoy the ugly, overly-realist buggy crap you get nowadays.@@doclouis4236
I think the visuals still hold up to an extent. Although I do recall the game looking very jarring coming off the incredible detail of RE1R and RE0 on GCN - but even back then I knew it wasn't possible to render a fully 3D environment that could look as good as the pre-rendered backgrounds. Still, the highly aliased and dithered image quality was a bit of an eyesore (though it's mostly noticeable only in the village). Stretching the screen to 'widescreen' (which is exactly what the Wii version's fake widescreen mode was) looked horrendous - basically resulting in a 360p image quality (maybe 240p).
In HD, the image quality is cleaned up, but the incredibly low-resolution textures become far more apparent. It's funny because the textures are very detailed and 'realistic' in style, but you don't even need to get up that close to them to notice just how pixelated they are. I do believe the new(er) PC version and the Quest 2 version did improve many of the textures, but not by a lot, and in VR things look grainy anyway (due to the nature if VR in general, especially Quest 2).
Overall, for its day, RE4 was definitely one of the most graphically impressive games of its day, and while some aspects, such as the character and enemy models, and overall art direction, still look great, it's not a game that would be remembered for being groundbreaking in any way - which may be the nature of being a GCN game with nothing else but an even worse performing PS2 port. I do often wonder how the game might have looked had it released on the OG Xbox as lead platform (which apparently Mikami originally intended to).
@@doclouis4236 Fallout New Vegas also released a half decade after RE4 and is part of a newer generation of console
this is the downfall of resident evil to me. i hated RE4, i still hate RE4, and pretty much everything else after has been crap.
RE4 is one of the worst games i have ever played
Damn that's rough. I have an affinity for the older resident evils to but RE4 trash? And everything after it?
so which resident evil game did you stop at? (not including RE4)
@@BeannJuice I think they stopped after CV. Also , maybe they played RE 1 remastered since it's the literal port of the gamecube remake of the original RE. Clearly one of the old school RE fans who never liked the TPS camera. I understand where they're coming from. 4 really changed RE forever. I could understand this because my favorite RE games are 1,2 and 3 Nemesis. I like 4 and the remakes, but I never considered them true RE games, that's not RE anymore. There is a game called Tormented souls, it looks and feels more RE than RE itself lol
@@HeLL1Striker that is very kind of you to speak on their behalf in regards of my question. although, i would rather get a straight answer from the original commentator on the games they played before the stopped at RE4 (2004).
I do get where you're coming from, even if RE4 is one of my favorite games ever it changed a lot in RE for the best and for the worst. The OTS camera for me was an improvement even if I also liked the fixed camera but for others it killed the atmosphere of RE games, then the shift from horror to action gave birth to abominations like RE5, RE6 or RE8.
Finally that intro with "stocks killed Umbrella" is easily one of the worst moments in the RE franchise. You have this pharmaceutical corporation doing biological weapons responsible for the first RE games, then you have RE2 ending with Leon saying it up to them to take out Umbrella, RE3 with Jill going to join Chris to take out Umbrella, CV with Chris and Claire saying that now they take the fight to Umbrella, all those games building a climatic final part to the Umbrella arc, so now enter RE4, where's Umbrella at? Lmao stocks killed Umbrella because the game creators were tired of Umbrella and Zombies so they moved on (and no Umbrella Chronicles is not that ending that we should have gotten).
I purchased a Game Cube just to play RE4, RE4 is the only game I have for the Game Cube, plays very well, slightly different to the PS4, still good on the PS4 though. RE4 is my most favourite with TLOU 1&2 a very close second. RE4 has not aged.
Has Resident Evil 4 aged well, yeah its still fun to play. Resident Evil game that does the series proud, um no. Resident Evil 4 is like a coked up version of Resident Evil, vomiting resources all over the place and suplexing someone because they missed their chance to fill up their cup full of beer.
So the Ric Flair of Resident Evil, got it.