I wanted to interject my own personal experience with ball lightning. The house I grew up in was a sizable, older home with large windows. All of the windows were covered in storm glass (helping heating/cooling efficiencies). I was ~18 or so, and home from college on an early afternoon, IIRC. I was sitting in a nice leather armchair watching television, some 12 feet away, dad at work and mother shopping, when I recall a terrific thunderstorm raging around our house--huge cracks of thunder and lightning seemed to be bombarding the house--unusually so, reminiscent of what I might expect in a war zone--very loud. Lots of flashing and crashing thunder--violent. Suddenly, I saw this ball of lightning wafting through the house a few feet from me in the chair!--It had come through a window on the other side of the house, across that hallway, in through the open door to the den where I was and was moving steadily, slowly, straight across to the window on this side of the house directly opposite the window where I assumed it had entered. It was perfectly silent, a ball shape, white in color, maybe five feet in diameter, with orange and yellow fluctuating fiery highlights. I remember sitting in the chair as if what I was seeing was surreal. I knew what it was, and I thought about standing up and approaching it (not to touch it, of course) but I found I was rooted to the chair and I simply could not move! Then I watched as it moved across the room in front of me and straight out through the window in the den I was in. That was it! It was silent, it burned nothing, no smoke or fire, and traveled steadily and sedately until it simply exited the window and then disappeared. I'm 72 and I've never forgotten that event. Nor had I thought of it in many, many years, until I started watching the Astrum presentation about ball lightning! Yes, indeed, I can testify that phenomenon is perfectly real, and it is, literally, balled lighting! I thought I'd share the recollection here.
Myself and a friend were working on a car in the barn on a cloudless day when my friend said “ what the hell is that” , looking out the doors I saw three small suns at out 10 o’clock . I immediately thought and said as I turned back “ that’s landing lights on a plane” . He then said “ well they just went out “. Turning , they were indeed gone, then they reappeared. This lasted 20 minutes as they eventually came to a hover over our horse pasture but now two red and one amber. One or all would fade and reappear in different spots, till eventually they faded off for good. We never once thought of our phones, we were in a kind of shock and mesmerized. Fight or flight mode gets your full attention. They were about 150 yards away. It really affected my buddy. I’m 56 now and this was about eight years ago. Who knows
There are reports of ball lightening going back hundreds of years. I believe it’s a natural phenomenon. There is a famous report of a church many years back where the entire congregation saw it come through a window, slowly float across the room, and go through a window on the other side. It was also during a thunderstorm
@johnny71c-UK I, too, experienced ball lightning in a plane! It was in Iraq during a sandstorm/ thunderstorm. It just rolled down the aisle and disappeared. We don't know how it got in our where it went. I will never forget how all of the hair on my body was standing on end.
At the relatively low level of acceleration, I think invisible off gassing makes more sense than a single solar sail from an advanced society randomly floating through the Sol system unprovoked.
I'd like to see you cover the "consciousness" and interdimensional aspects of this subject. Our government has spent a lot of money on investigating these aspects, would be a good trail to go down.
It's mind blowing that human beings created these machines that traverse the universe. What these machines are able to do is jaw dropping. My respect.👏
I like to think Oumuamua was an asteroid being mined & refurbished into a cargo vessel while probing deep space (quite the multi tasker, i know) Going home once all of these tasks were finished, by then able to land itself, await inspection and mountain of paperwork.
It definitely makes more sense if it was a cylinder shape like a expelled rocket shell . Things like that have been shown to excellerate without out gassing .
The 2004 "tic tac" incident was off the coast of Southern California. Not Carolina. Just for Accuracy. I hope I live long enough too get some answers to what, if substantiated , is the most significant story in human history.
There was a similar incident that happened off the coast of the Carolina's. There was a series (3) of encounters that came to light along with the "Tic-Tac" video: There was also a video of an object called "Fast-Mover" and one called "Gimbal." Tic-Tac was So. Cal and either Gimbal or Fast-Mover happened off the Carolina coast.
I can’t remember the exact plane but it was being made by the us governments and it resembled the same tic tac shape, it would be reported by other pilots because them and their bosses bosses wouldn’t even know it existed.
I saw ball lightning during a strong thunderstorm one night.4 balls were visible for up to about 10 seconds and moving erratically. They were around 120 to 150 metres away from me and probably about 20 to 40 cm in diameter, shrinking slightly. All were bluish-white, and each one in turn grounded by contacting a disused electricity pylon, ending with very loud detonations. There was a distinct acrid smell in the air, maybe Ozone or a Nitrate, but this could have been from the original lightning strike when it hit the top of the pylon.
If it composition included iron(Fe) and nickel(Ni) it was a big damn magnet with a -negative polarity, hence the acceleration(push) passing the sun. Factor in the tumble rate and its shape and you have the "course trajectory" alteration.
I have had the luxury of laying on my back in a good gerry bag watching the earth turn at night in Glacier Park and in the Bob Marshall Wilderness of this state. It's a good view.
Ball lightning - as a child I remember this tennisball size orb moving through our living room - it seemed to come from an electric light socket and enter a different one - all so quickly and unexpectedly - it left us STUNNED and BEWILDERED without any explanation or where it came from and went - all I have is this vague memory of this event
18:22 I've seen two balls of bright glowing light shoot across our city in an instant, they stayed perfectly parallel to each-other. Difficult to say how big they were because the sky was the background so I had nothing to compare it with, but I would say at least 30m to 50m in diameter
I try to limit myself to a quick first-line scan of a couple comments. Get a feel for the 'vibe', and if I don't think I like what I see, I don't read any of them. I know _I_ get a little pushy sometimes, but why subject others to it if I get downright vitriolic?
Who says aliens would even want to explore space or send radio signals our way? We have groups of humans just as intelligent as we are, but have chosen to use their brains to survive in the, for example, Amazon jungle. They have lived for over 20,000 years there and never found the need to develop radios or space ships. Countless civilizations like this could exist on extraterrestrial worlds and we will never know they exist. We assume intelligent life would follow our path; a bold assumption to say the least.
Humans are just very very curious, it true, there's no reason extraterrestrial life would have the wonder and curiosity to follow the innovations and success of humans
Both yall ignore one big factor. Scale. Even if .001% were like us.... they should be everywhere. Time and Space will break everything you can possibly come up with to explain away aliens simply because we ourselves exist as an example and are on the path to major space exploration and longevity.
@@seditt5146 I think there are extraterrestrials but I believe we are early birds, not in the sense we are the first ever but will be the first with the technology to visit other words.
@@seditt5146 "Everywhere" is kind of big and mostly too far away to get here. Also take into account that we are alive right now, but aliens could have been around before us. So time and space can also explain why we have not seen any. Besides, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence over many centuries up to recently, including eye witness accounts, and many different cultures that we have been visited, but people choose not to believe and then claim we have not seen any.
I disagree with the statement that “the military was not interested” in the UFO phenomena of the 1950s. If the military wasn’t interested, they’d have ignored it, without paying anything towards its investigation, or employing anyone in research. The military obtained (without stating as such) sufficient government funding to form several “Projects” (Project Sign, Project Grudge… Project Blue Book, undoubtedly others, probably lasting until present, though they won’t admit it) employing many personnel in investigative research into what was causing the sightings. It’s clear that this was important for these reasons: If “we” have top secret military aircraft flying around, why are they being seen by civilians? Aren’t we subtle/camouflaged enough? If “we” don’t, are these spy-planes from the Soviet Union, China, Europe, South America, or someone else? If from our allies, why isn’t the technology shared; if our enemies, why aren’t our agents bringing us evidence of said advanced technology? Is there a paranoia outbreak, caused by our propaganda machine, affecting our civilians’ minds? This was likely the briefings of many countries’ military or government departments, back then. A lot of the “Men In Black” explanations of the time sound like nonsense, probably because these craft were “ours” and highly top secret military aircraft that they didn’t want discussed in the local or national papers (or Pravda! 😅), so “You saw Venus reflected in the lake with swamp gases ignited through the mist” became a sort of standard explanation!😂 For each blurry, out of focus, black and white picture taken in the 50s, when maybe 1 in 100 family homes had a camera, there should now be dozens (thousands?) or pristine, perfectly focused digital photos and videos of the same craft from multiple angles, allowing us to determine the size, shape and exact position of any UFO/UAP sighted by many witnesses. This is why I would take any “evidence” of alien encounters with a grain of salt. The fact that umpteen videos can now be generated on computer by 3D apps and AI means that the likelihood of any such “evidence” being legitimate gets smaller every day.
Since this strange asteroid was tumbling how can you attribute it’s acceleration to outgassing since the outgassing would be inconsistent with the Direction of travel of the asteroid?
My solution to the Fermi Paradox : Interstellar travel and interstellar communication have NEVER been possible due to the laws of physics. Since the universe has stabilized, millions of civilisations have thrived, reached an advanced state then withered away, having depleted all their available resources, trapped in their own solar system, just as we are. These civilisations have built radio-telescopes to listen to the void, but to no avail. Artificial signals have always been, and always will be too weak not to fade away in the Oort clouds/gas clouds surrounding each star. Like we did, they built space station, reached their moon(s), maybe their closest planet, but that's all. Probes were sent, but were just too insignificant to be noticed, and died. The best aspect of this solution is that it does not contradict anything we witness now : No signals, no signatures, no megastructures, nothing.
There’s gotta be a way to travel vast distances (wormholes?) we just gotta get a very good idea to make it possible! I think as long as we keep our minds open and not ridicule ideas that seem unreachable, then we can achieve great things (maybe even the 4th dimension, think of it as having more space occupying the same area)
The only wrinkle is, to the best of my current recollection of 'the state of the art', although the sheer power necessary is, at present, totally outside the resources available, _to_ _US,_ the fact is the laws of physics don't preclude superliminal travel, or the warping of spacetime to effectively allow time travel. With one exception, traveling directly along our personal past timeline, at the center point of our past light cone. Kip Thorne has written quite a bit on the subject. Including I believe the only paper on how to construct a time machine to ever appear in a respected peer-reviewed journal. Could find it if you tried. Don't want to try to convince you, though, just offering a thought or two you may find interesting.
14:25 The notion that UFO's and aliens are some kind of engineered neo-mythology created as psychological warfare to launder more down-to-earth covert projects is not very original and it is in fact somewhat fashionable at the moment. It is actually rather implausible when you consider how easily and badly it could backfire. Drawing somebody's attention towards something with the ultimate objective of deflecting it away is a very risky gambit, so much so that I think we can reject it on theoretical grounds outside very exceptional circumstances. It's like a bank robber jumping up and down on top of his buried stash in a striped jersey and face mask every time a police car drives past, waving a placard stating: THERE IS NO STOLEN CASH HIDDEN HERE, JUST UNICORN BONES! How long would it take for somebody to realize what was really going on? So I think what you describe is actually some sort of very elaborate double-bluff.
Didn't the (what is now) USAF tell the public that its special A-bomb detonation detector balloon, which crashed at Roswell in the 1940's, was a flying saucer? Wasn't it an attempt to keep the true nature of the crash wreckage secret? Also, along the same lines, wouldn't the military (the Government) rather have the public believe that advanced Chinese military drones were mysterious UAPs?
UFO phenomena was debunked in Condon's report in 1969. Very poor case for using is as a cover up for a secret military programs. Not to mentions most UFO witnesses were treat as mental asylum patients.
There was an encounter off the Carolina coast very similar to the 2004 Southern California Tic-Tac encounter. A Naval task force doing workup drills prior to a deployment encountered objects that were captured on video. It was either the "Gimbal" encounter or the "Fast-Mover" encounter. Those 3 videos, Tic-Tac/Gimbal/Fast-Mover were released together. All were videos of objects encountered by Naval Task Force units practicing drills prior to a deployment.
I still think its so funny that in 2024 with all of our intelligence and technology we think we know how the universe started but it hinges on physics and mainly on gravity which is a complete mystery. We still have no idea how gravity really works, we can't replicate it or stop it, all we know is how to measure it from mass and gravitational waves. We have so much still to learn about our existence and the universe
We can easily replicate it what do you mean? You are replicating it right now. As far as blocking it... Well... Ya likely can't. If one can it literally leads to the same issues Time travel causes.
Uhh.... you think they cannot control gravity (it's a partical, like nueons, maybe dark matter, maybe something we cannot name yet?) Who knows? Keep asking! Although I think they can do one better... I think they can put objects in a 4th/5th, or maybe more dimensions. Air, water, vacuum, don't matter! Shits flying through it like it's not there. Look at quantum physics... there is an invisible world all around us. Nothings impossible friends! Do it, or make it!
@@seditt5146 are you a real scientist or a youtube scientist? This is what I do, and I'm gonna a let you in in a little secret..... We straight up pretend to have gravity figured out. We don't. Like AT ALL. You'll notice most of the time gravity is mentioned it's relative to earth. We'll say "Jupiter's gravity is 2.4 times that of earth" instead of saying "it has 2.4 gigawhizzes of gravity". For a long time we thought it was tied to mass, but it's not. Jupiter is 11 times bigger than earth, and weighs more than every other planet combined. But it's gravity is weak comparatively. Stranger still is when you go DOWN in mass, gravity disappears altogether. You're no more attracted to a skyscraper than you are a coffee cup. There seems to be a minimum mass needed before gravitational pull starts to become realized. Because we know mass is likely not what dictates gravity, our current theory is that it has more to do with the makeup of the object than it does with the size of the object. For now we use Gs as a measurement but again, that's relative to earth. This has big implications too. The reason Einsteins theory of relativity is still a theory and not a law is because of the M. That damn M. It's not predictable or scalable. We can't use it because it's different for everything we measure even if it's two objects of the same size. It's an interesting field of study but also a frustrating one. We know celestial bodies have a force pulling things towards them. But sometimes it just doesn't work. Look at the moon. It should've collided with earth a billion years ago. It's too close. They both have gravity and should both be pulling themselves together. But they don't.
but if Oumouaouaua was a sail, it shouldn't tumble like this to keep consistent acceleration, right? we would see spikes in its acceleration when the sail would be facing the Sun, but it would probably be facing it all the time to maximize its efficiency, so probably no tumbling motion...
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I've been thinking about that. My brain isn't very big but people are submitting all sorts of design ideas to NASA about non electronic purely mechanical ways to explore Venus. You could maybe shape it in a way where it is face on in and face out on the way out and somehow when it reaches perihedron whatever became face on to the star?
I think having a "classification" is close to the least important thing needed for these objects. However these things get named or grouped together changes nothing about them. Pluto was once classified as a planet, now it is classified as a Dwarf planet, that didn't help anything, it didn't suddenly give us any new information about Pluto. If there are seven objects out there, they are most likely very different from each other and worth studying on their own merit.
It made things much worse. They kept telling people "Pluto isn't a planet." Dwarf just means a small version of a thing. A dwarf person is a person. A dwarf star is a star. A dwarf planet isn't a planet. This is semantically incorrect, inherently confusing, and just wrong. Because "science communicator" Neil deGrasse Tyson says so. One of the many annoying things that astronomers do because they have way too much time on their hands. Asteroid, meteor, meteorite, meteoroid, is way too many names for the same thing. No wonder people get bored. Such communication, much science!
and even if there are multiple following the same pattern, since the first object which started the investigation is now gone we cant confirm if it was the same. all we can do is find other objects which match the data we already have and learn more about future objects to classify them correctly but we cant go to the past and get more data. also while it is true that the classification doesnt advance science, it does show case how much we know about something if we can reliably classify everything correctly and also you would rather have a list of 100 meteors seperate from a million objects then a list of 1 million and 100 objects all mixed in to one, especially when looking for something specific. the more we can fine tune the data and seperate them in to more accurate groups it becomes more easy to work with those lists and compare different objects with each other.
@@ai-spacedestructor I didn't say that classification was useless. I was specifically pushing back on one of the first statements in the video that claimed it was the "most" interesting or "most" important. In answer to your question, we already do have that situation, take the classification of "star" that classification is then split up into a dozen or so categories and each of those is split up into sub-categories etc. until we are talking about the characteristics of an individual star. In that case it can be useful to narrow down a star so that if we call it a red dwarf, we already know a certain number of it's characteristics without having to go and state the size, heat, mass. However in the case in this video we are talking about less than ten objects, where is the need to split them further?
I think sending radio signals to an advanced civilisation is a bit like a cave man hammering on a hollow log and not getting a reply from the moon. I guess we are not yet advanced enough to achieve the contact we desire.
22:50 I really like this particular video, I thought all the public conspiracy theories around this one were hilarious given that not only could you see wings flapping but if I recall correctly the pilots also talk about a bird. Thunderf00t even did some trigonometry and published a video proving that the size of the thing was no bigger than a seagull. Trying to lock onto a bird with a camera pod is a game for bored pilots and sensors operators. CIWS sometimes locks a bird, it's not just planes. Military IR T-pod cameras are good enough to see details of a bird from several km away. If you can lock a seagull from 10km away, why not? Humans are so easily tricked. Imagination is cool, but it can get you into trouble, too. The rustling in the bush could be a lion, and many will assume it's a lion, but it's almost always just going to be the wind or something else that's not a lion _even when we know lions exist on Earth._ Let's be real, the universe is a really big place in it takes a lot of time and energy to travel between stars. If we're visited by anything, it's probably going to be either unmanned probes or relativistic kill weapons that were fired at us the moment our first TV broadcasts were detected. I for one am in favor of the Dark Forest hypothesis. The universe is vast and old, and it only took intelligent life less than 5 billion years to evolve on this planet. The whole universe is about three times older than that, and with self-replicating machines moving at only 1% of the speed of light you could colonize a whole galaxy within only a few million years. Just about everything is a threat to life, and intelligent life is a huge threat to intelligent life. From a purely pragmatic stance, I don't think it's wise for us to actively announce our presence and location for anyone who can hear. I don't think Earth has been visited, either by unmanned probes or by little green men. But many people want to believe things, and when they want to believe something they find ways to make themselves believe it. It's not any different from religion, and even religious people acknowledge that most religious people (if only by virtue of sheer statistics) are mistaken.
You make good points, all based on our current knowledge. However, everything we know is arguably a tiny fraction of all that can be known, and daily we are finding we need to correct our knowledge even when it comes to things we have thought settled for decades. Whatever reality is, we cannot perceive it. Our minds lie to us, fill in gaps, show us a lion in the bush when there is no lion, possibly to keep us alive, possibly to keep us in the dark. I don't know what is really going on, I just know it is mad hubris to think we have such a firm grasp on reality that we can exclude the possibility of anything. I trust the scientific method to provide correct solutions, but only when we know what we are testing. Until then the only correct answer is 42.
@@RoySATX You make an interesting point. While I generally agree with the philosophy behind it, I think some of what you said is just flat out false. Actually we *_do_* know for a fact that the thing in that video was a bird, the distance and angles relative to the plane, and therefore the speed and size of everything involved. Until such a time as we have a good reason to think that we have been visited by extraterrestrials, the only intellectually honest position to hold is that we have not been visited by extraterrestrials. I'm not at all saying we should close our minds to the possibility that there are facts for which we have no evidence (I mean we *_know_* this is true or else PhD programs wouldn't require novel research). Just that, while we don't necessarily know what we don't know, we have access to statistical and psychological tools that indicate pretty definitively that UAPs aren't aliens. We absolutely *_can_* exclude specific possibilities, that's how the scientific method works. If we couldn't, then we wouldn't have these fancy pocket computers to instantly communicate with.
Our Solar System is remarkably lacking in terrestrial planets in the mass range of about 5 to 20 times the Earth's mass. These are quite common in other Planetary Systems. Please note that Ice Giants don't count in this reckoning.
We have to remember that the inhabitants of any planet significantly more massive than Earth would be trapped on the surface due to the energy requirements to achieve even low orbit, let alone leave the vicinity of the planet.
@@dewiz9596People who are native to a High Gravity Planet would be perfectly adapted to their environment and would have no issues with their own gravity. WE would have difficulties on such a Planet just as a Mars Native would be extremely uncomfortable on Earth.
one thing I'm convinced of is that I don't know. Maybe the solution would be to eliminate everything else... possibly with automated laser monkeys and acid
My question is, how did Oumuamua survive the 3 light year expanse of the Oort cloud? If it is a free-floating object, why did it not collide with any of the trillions of icy planetesimals and disintegrate? Or was it originally much larger in size and splintered from an Oort cloud collision? Or did it "steer" itself through the debris field?
@@jefffinkbonner9551 That may be so but those planetesimals, estimated to be more than a trillion in number cover an area spread over 27 trillion kilometers (three light years) starting from the interstellar medium to the outer boundary of the heliosphere. That density is why the debris field is called "cloud" in the first place. So imagine a free floating object like the Oumuamua traversing this debris field for 27 trillion kilometers without colliding with any of the one trillion mountain sized objects. What are the odds of that happening?
@@jefffinkbonner9551 By the way, I believe that Oumuamua is a shard of some planet in the Vega system that suffered a cataclysmic event and was destroyed. I'm just surprised that it has managed to travel such a long distance without disintegrating from collision, especially when traveling through the Oort cloud. But then again nothing in impossible in the universe.
Im surprised they didn't just label Oumuamua as a quantum qomet, thats usually the label given when folk dont know what something is or hoe it functions.
Imagine for a second when new maths come to be which make physics a nonessential achaic form of calculation from a time when man believed it to be the pinnacle of their intellectual prowess and the gauge of all things seen and unseen throughout the universe...
One thing in our way of achieving anything , ourselves. If we are the first we have a great chance of being the last. Logic tells me that because we are war like we will never get the chance to go much further than we have. We can't mature or grow out of this emotional way of being. We are most likely going to destroy ourselves before we ever get the chance to change.😢
What do you think of the description of what can only be an alien battle over Nuremberg Germany in 1561? And the vimanna from ancient India? Just curious what people think of those two things. Edit: or the Billy Meier case out of Switzerland... That case is the real deal for sure. The only thing I don't understand is why they chose him to spread the word. He hasn't done s very good job at it, but other people have helped him tremendously with getting the message out to people. The pictures he has are 100% legit, as they were taken on film and verified by Kodak in the 80s.
I just googled "Billy Meier UFO pictures". I quickly found one of what looks to be a disk with flattened conical top and bottom. It's seemingly near eye level/camera level, and almost edge-wise relative to the photographer, who himself seems to have taken the picture from a hill overlooking countryside. As a quite proficient "photo-shopper" (that is to say I'm competent at making things appear in images that seem real but aren't, not to say that digital image editing was involved in the photo in question), I was struck at how the disk is quite clear looking despite what seems to be very foggy conditions that day. Note: pine trees in the image, which seem to be just a 2 or 3 minute walk downhill from the photographer, are more obscured by mist than the disk itself is. Given a reasonable minimum size estimate of a disk UFO (at least big enough to fit one or two small humanoids in?), given the disk's apparent height, and given its relative clarity despite the seemingly foggy conditions, I would guess that the disk is a lot smaller than a craft that even one small humanoid could fit in, and is only a matter of several metres/yards away from the photographer. In conclusion, I think that the disk is less than 1 metre in circumference, and is probably a fake UFO launched into the air, perhaps by a clay-pigeon launcher or something similar, and photographed.
Ive taken pictures of just normal stuff... really big appearing moon, neat looking sunset, stuff like that. Knowing what i was looking at and how cool it looked, my phone pics were always super disappointing. I can imagine a tiny little thing that's clearly odd to the observer just wouldnt translate well in an image capture. For that reason i dont expect actual physical evidence like a clear photo. Testimony of hundreds or thousands of people is pretty good evidence to start.
I had a super vivid dream about ball lightning when I was a young teen. I remember I fell asleep watching a thunderstorm outside from bed. Then I remember a ball of lightning hanging in the air, and it came into my room right through the walls before disappearing. I felt it was real for years.
Whoa! I have a similar story. I was lying next to my sleeping gf one night and i remember opening my eyes because of a sense of light in the room and when i sat up, i saw as clear as day, a ball of light floating across the room and disappearing into the closet on the far end of the room. I definitely didn't dream it. It didn't light the room up really bright, but the object itself was VERY bright. It was about the size of a large grapefruit. It moved so slowly and eerily. I tried to wake up my gf immediately so she could see it but by the time she came to, it was already gone. Nobody ever believed me, but i swear on my life it happened.
"Nothing" is a concept formed in the human mind. If there were to be a physical manifestation of nothing, it would merely be a lack of difference. A sameness.
Unless we eventually develop time travel (not bloody likely) other countries developing advanced technology doesn't explain these things. They would have to send it back at least 100 years from today to explain the phenomena.
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The Fermi paradox assumes technological civilizations can go extinct. Ancient Aliens is a goofy channel but some of that South American very high altitude stone work is rather astonishing. We probably couldn't build the pyramids today if we wanted to.
Personally I would like aliens to be proven to exist. Can you imagine the money that would pour into space travel and space research if we confirmed aliens existed? It would be a massive shift and an exciting time.
Under the condition that we are not living in a cosmic zoo. If "aliens", "demons", "gods" -or whatever you want to call it -are already here, the first questions would be "what is the meaning of the humankind?" There is some existential horror included, and one of the reasons we can't be allowed to get to know the truth.
@@burakranger7828 You need to look into the history of specific characters there. Garrett Graff is a good start. Look at his past employers and then go look at the projects he's working on with Aspen. There are deeper connections, this is just surface level stuff to get started with. Think about project Blue Beam and things will start to fall into place.
Doesn't mention That Blue book and the others were basically meant to quash public opinion by explaining away sightings.. Also when he brings up the 2004 Nimitz stuff he says 80,000 to 20,000 ft. In a blistering speed. It was actually something like 80,000 ft to 50 ft in less than 1 second... I paused to do this comment but I have the feeling I would be coming back continually throughout the video so I'll stop there
8:46 anyone would think that this Avi Loeb guy had a book to sell and disproving his obsessive alien theory would harm it's sales. Oh he did? Never mind.
@@theWinterWalker Its funny how yall fell for propaganda against him. EVERY theory put forth so far is either worse or requires stuff even more unlikely than Aliens yet since the community is scared of that word they piled on. There is still no solution that works other than his but I am willing to bet you dont know that and fell for one of the dozens of really crappy "Science" papers attempting to show it was something else. Reality is I dont believe his solution is the answer and its instead likely a Contact binary that split when close to the sun and we just lost sight of the other half. It would explain the light curve, acceleration and since it was at the Galactic rest frame it likely was just a loose contact binary. Either way, the hydrogen explanation is nonsense.
@@VeronicaGorositoMusic Well it sounds like crap because you are just extremely misinformed and believe such things should be unlikely instead of the reality where they should be far more likely than the hydrogen iceberg that simply cant exist. The push against him screamed more of misinformation than anything to be honest. It was weird and he dug in, rightfully so as the alternatives were far more absurd than his ideas.
You ever fallen off of anything before? That's gravity pulling you down to the ground. It's nothing pushing you down to the ground. You're getting pulled down and you accelerate pretty dog on fast
Have you ever picked anything up off the ground. That's Acceleration. When you drop it. That's called deceleration. There is nothing pulling on you. There are dozens of vacuum chamber experiments proving this.
You don't get pulled down. Galileo's heliocentric model of the solar system showed that the Earth is in motion around the sun. It's this motion that is accelerating you in space. Jump off a building and the building is no longer accelerating you so you start decelerating back to a point where there is sufficient force to accelerate you, which is the ground in most cases. An apple falling from a tree is no different than an apple bouncing off a truck and hitting the trailing vehicle. The laws of physics are equally applicable in all frames of reference. Vertical or horizontal. The physics is still the same. Gravitational attraction is flat earth/stationary frame physics. The earth is not flat. Its in motion. You go from an inertial frame, the building accelerating you, to a non-inertial frame, accelerating yourself. Since you are not under power, you are decelerating while the ground below you is still at a constant velocity.
IMO, Avi Loeb lost all credibility when he pushed the "Alien" theory. He got lots of publicity for it, but I'd never put any faith in anything he says in the future.
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He's written like 800 articles and never moved anything forward. People will write response articles to his articles and he writes response articles to the response articles. He's like a youtuber but less fun.
Yeah and he shouts down anyone who challenges his ideas. Absolutely no decorum or credibility, he really coasts on his academic pedigree. I doubt very many other scientists would be able to shitpost as much as him and keep their careers.
@@firstandlastname6194 I'm glad to see at least some ppl agree with me on this. When he first made the "Alien" proposal I called him out for it and was shot down by nearly everyone. When Trump first decided to run for office, I said he was the biggest threat to Democracy in history. Ppl are finally beginning to see what I meant.
So a professor says "hey maybe it's this possible yet unlikely thing" and your reaction is "I've lost all faith in you or anything you'll ever say or do again." No one said the internet was rational.
ThunderFoot's debunk of the three US navy videos (TicTac, etc) is way more believable that your suggestion that "there's something weird going on" Unless and until there are multiple videos showing the SAME debunk-resistant phenomenon then it's just noise. Lumping 100 different things together and then referring to them as 'it' really rubs me the wrong way. If you are going to do more videos on the topic, then PLEASE be MUCH more sceptical, and research the various alternative explanations that have been given that everyone (including you) seems to ignore. And please avoid saying that planet + apple + chair must be a sign of 'something' because there are clearly three definite instances of it.
Replying to myself to note that "dark triangles with lights at the apexes" seems to me the most sustained and recurring kind of report. But I balance that against the shape of modern stealth aircraft, especially if they're maybe flying in formation at night.
Don't be the guy who changes the subject of everything to politics. There are plenty of political vids on TH-cam where you can high five other people for hating the USA president. We're talking about other stuff here
I know nothing about the science behind all this, but it seems to me that Emoramora is behaving similar to a Boomerang. Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume Boomerangs accelerate on the way back without "push!" Though I'm probably missing the obvious!?!?...
I assume you’re referring to ‘Oumuamua’, then, yes, you’re missing a lot. But I assume you’re referring to the very slight acceleration that was observed, most probably due to outgassing, although there is conjecture about the details. A boomerang on the other hand, does not accelerate and its motion is a combination of aerodynamic and gyroscopic forces, so is quite complex.
@@Mqmn The intention behind my comment was to provide a "hypothetical" example to possibly help inspire thoughts and theorems that otherwise maybe would not have been thought of or considered without first reading my "obviously unintelligent" comment that @daveozip4326 had already "helpfully," quickly, and completely cleared up by "contributing" with a "contextual" and direct answer covering the entirety of my comment while also "immersing" in the conversation by providing "beneficial" and "constructive" information to the argument! On the other hand, though I used incorrect spelling of a word I had only ever heard, therefore guessing the spelling of said word, the original purpose and relevance of my comment remains standing regardless of any answers given, or "thought of" already or henceforth, whereas there is *no rhyme or reason, nor any point or need of comments like yours! 😔🙏 Edit: is the "no" with a * before it "and obviously this edit note!"
NASA (never a straight answer) ... will never tell the truth about UFO's ... nor will the military nor that government ... the true government not the puppet show the public sees
why havent aliens visited us outright ... look at our society ... grown educated people ate laundry soap because they thought it was FUN ... we barely have intelligent life here ... and most of the intelligent people here avoid the rest like they have the plague ... so why would an alien stop in and say HI openly when we have a planet of idiots in control
have aliens answered ... YES ... crop circles ... and NO some drunk people with boards and strings didnt make all of them and they sure as heck didnt make the complex responses ...
@1:07:13, early human astronomers thought all the bodies in the night sky were the same thing. The plants were called Wondering Stars or ἀστήρ πλανήτης (astēr planētēs). There was no sense of them being special other then they didn't follow the rest of the stars as they went around the dome of the sky. Please do not attribute things to ancient peoples that they didn't attribute to them selves. They did not know they were orbiting our solar system.
We exist in a time dilation field, or in layman's terms a gravity well. As an observer of objects exiting it's field of effect, as the distance grows the objects speed appears to increase, or be greater than expected, there should be gravitational drag slowing it down. I think its already accounted for but misstated in the video. "Gravitational Time Dilation: According to general relativity, time passes more slowly near massive objects, such as planets or black holes, due to their gravitational fields. This effect is significant only at very high gravitational potentials, like those near a black hole (e.g., 1 hour on a planet orbiting a black hole is equivalent to 7 years on Earth)." To explain high eccentricity of the outer solar system objects, one only needs to acknowledge the the stars in the sky move and at times pass close enough to perturb the natural orbits of those objects. Also, there is no ort cloud because of this, just so everyone knows that when that breakthrough is announced in 80 years.
There is a program studying these objects. They not extraterrestrial but Terrestrial ocean civilization older than men. These beings have their civilization in the ocean. Our technology just has developed to be able to see them. Their numbers are small and pose no threat. They are humanoid but their ancestors are not apes.
The best evidence I feel is what I've seen with my own eyes. No cameras, my memory is accurate. I've seen an actual spaceship very clearly, another time me and my cousin witnessed a ship moving and accelerating beyond comprehension, and yet another time I ran after a silent strange light moving thru the forest. Those do not include the strange lights I witnessed time after time heading towards the same location. Can't be sure I've been abducted, all I know is after the "paralysis" and bright light, I have 2 lumps in my body that weren't there before. None of these instances were natural or explainable. My belief in aliens is and will always be unwaivering. My only wish is they come back. 😊 I have questions for them.
Oumuamua was a Vogon scoutship,the fleet building the intergalactic highway that will destroy the Earth are fast approaching.Don't Panic,just make sure you have your towel handy.
I wanted to interject my own personal experience with ball lightning. The house I grew up in was a sizable, older home with large windows. All of the windows were covered in storm glass (helping heating/cooling efficiencies). I was ~18 or so, and home from college on an early afternoon, IIRC. I was sitting in a nice leather armchair watching television, some 12 feet away, dad at work and mother shopping, when I recall a terrific thunderstorm raging around our house--huge cracks of thunder and lightning seemed to be bombarding the house--unusually so, reminiscent of what I might expect in a war zone--very loud. Lots of flashing and crashing thunder--violent. Suddenly, I saw this ball of lightning wafting through the house a few feet from me in the chair!--It had come through a window on the other side of the house, across that hallway, in through the open door to the den where I was and was moving steadily, slowly, straight across to the window on this side of the house directly opposite the window where I assumed it had entered. It was perfectly silent, a ball shape, white in color, maybe five feet in diameter, with orange and yellow fluctuating fiery highlights. I remember sitting in the chair as if what I was seeing was surreal. I knew what it was, and I thought about standing up and approaching it (not to touch it, of course) but I found I was rooted to the chair and I simply could not move! Then I watched as it moved across the room in front of me and straight out through the window in the den I was in. That was it! It was silent, it burned nothing, no smoke or fire, and traveled steadily and sedately until it simply exited the window and then disappeared. I'm 72 and I've never forgotten that event. Nor had I thought of it in many, many years, until I started watching the Astrum presentation about ball lightning! Yes, indeed, I can testify that phenomenon is perfectly real, and it is, literally, balled lighting! I thought I'd share the recollection here.
Extremely interesting.
Myself and a friend were working on a car in the barn on a cloudless day when my friend said “ what the hell is that” , looking out the doors I saw three small suns at out 10 o’clock . I immediately thought and said as I turned back “ that’s landing lights on a plane” . He then said “ well they just went out “. Turning , they were indeed gone, then they reappeared. This lasted 20 minutes as they eventually came to a hover over our horse pasture but now two red and one amber. One or all would fade and reappear in different spots, till eventually they faded off for good. We never once thought of our phones, we were in a kind of shock and mesmerized. Fight or flight mode gets your full attention. They were about 150 yards away. It really affected my buddy. I’m 56 now and this was about eight years ago. Who knows
There are reports of ball lightening going back hundreds of years. I believe it’s a natural phenomenon. There is a famous report of a church many years back where the entire congregation saw it come through a window, slowly float across the room, and go through a window on the other side. It was also during a thunderstorm
Thank you for sharing! Did you tell your parents or anyone else?
@johnny71c-UK I, too, experienced ball lightning in a plane! It was in Iraq during a sandstorm/ thunderstorm. It just rolled down the aisle and disappeared. We don't know how it got in our where it went. I will never forget how all of the hair on my body was standing on end.
Thanks for the video, these long ones are a treat!
At the relatively low level of acceleration, I think invisible off gassing makes more sense than a single solar sail from an advanced society randomly floating through the Sol system unprovoked.
I'd like to see you cover the "consciousness" and interdimensional aspects of this subject. Our government has spent a lot of money on investigating these aspects, would be a good trail to go down.
Astral projection.
MDT
It's mind blowing that human beings created these machines that traverse the universe. What these machines are able to do is jaw dropping. My respect.👏
I like to think Oumuamua was an asteroid being mined & refurbished into a cargo vessel while probing deep space (quite the multi tasker, i know)
Going home once all of these tasks were finished, by then able to land itself, await inspection and mountain of paperwork.
It's more plausible than an alien craft doing reconnaissance
It definitely makes more sense if it was a cylinder shape like a expelled rocket shell . Things like that have been shown to excellerate without out gassing .
Sadly we will never 100% know without seeing it
The 2004 "tic tac" incident was off the coast of Southern California. Not Carolina. Just for Accuracy. I hope I live long enough too get some answers to what, if substantiated , is the most significant story in human history.
I have a feeling the explanation for that one is gonna be super disappointingly mundane
There was a similar incident that happened off the coast of the Carolina's. There was a series (3) of encounters that came to light along with the "Tic-Tac" video: There was also a video of an object called "Fast-Mover" and one called "Gimbal." Tic-Tac was So. Cal and either Gimbal or Fast-Mover happened off the Carolina coast.
I can’t remember the exact plane but it was being made by the us governments and it resembled the same tic tac shape, it would be reported by other pilots because them and their bosses bosses wouldn’t even know it existed.
I saw ball lightning during a strong thunderstorm one night.4 balls were visible for up to about 10 seconds and moving erratically. They were around 120 to 150 metres away from me and probably about 20 to 40 cm in diameter, shrinking slightly. All were bluish-white, and each one in turn grounded by contacting a disused electricity pylon, ending with very loud detonations. There was a distinct acrid smell in the air, maybe Ozone or a Nitrate, but this could have been from the original lightning strike when it hit the top of the pylon.
If it composition included iron(Fe) and nickel(Ni) it was a big damn magnet with a -negative polarity, hence the acceleration(push) passing the sun. Factor in the tumble rate and its shape and you have the "course trajectory" alteration.
I have had the luxury of laying on my back in a good gerry bag watching the earth turn at night in Glacier Park and in the Bob Marshall Wilderness of this state. It's a good view.
That sounds amazing. Enjoy it for both of us, if you get a chance.
@@benjaminbeard3736 Greetings from the BIG SKY of Montana. Every chance I get.
@rogerdudra178 very nice. Ivs been sick the past couple days. Really knocked down. I'll be back out in my neck of the woods soon.
My parents refuse to move from a cheap location because you can see an entire valey from the crapper ...
@contytub that makes sense, the view from your crapper can be nicer than a book 😂
Thanks for putting this together. Great video.
Ball lightning - as a child I remember this tennisball size orb moving through our living room - it seemed to come from an electric light socket and enter a different one - all so quickly and unexpectedly - it left us STUNNED and BEWILDERED without any explanation or where it came from and went - all I have is this vague memory of this event
Seriously??
@@jaydirt2006no, he’s just joking. 🙄
a TALL tale indeed
18:22 I've seen two balls of bright glowing light shoot across our city in an instant, they stayed perfectly parallel to each-other. Difficult to say how big they were because the sky was the background so I had nothing to compare it with, but I would say at least 30m to 50m in diameter
I saw 9 glowing balls in uk in November 4 years ago it fascinated me ever since
UAP..
Damn some of these comments are brutal! Relax folks we’re all here for the same interest and we’re all entitled to opinion.
Then let them have their opinions.
I try to limit myself to a quick first-line scan of a couple comments. Get a feel for the 'vibe', and if I don't think I like what I see, I don't read any of them. I know _I_ get a little pushy sometimes, but why subject others to it if I get downright vitriolic?
Yeah bro!!! Some of us are just here to fall asleep
When TH-cam should invoke the “violation of community standards” freeze speech spell…well , inexplicably … it doesn’t.
Nope. Only mine counts...
Who says aliens would even want to explore space or send radio signals our way? We have groups of humans just as intelligent as we are, but have chosen to use their brains to survive in the, for example, Amazon jungle. They have lived for over 20,000 years there and never found the need to develop radios or space ships. Countless civilizations like this could exist on extraterrestrial worlds and we will never know they exist. We assume intelligent life would follow our path; a bold assumption to say the least.
Humans are just very very curious, it true, there's no reason extraterrestrial life would have the wonder and curiosity to follow the innovations and success of humans
Both yall ignore one big factor. Scale. Even if .001% were like us.... they should be everywhere. Time and Space will break everything you can possibly come up with to explain away aliens simply because we ourselves exist as an example and are on the path to major space exploration and longevity.
@@seditt5146 I think there are extraterrestrials but I believe we are early birds, not in the sense we are the first ever but will be the first with the technology to visit other words.
@@seditt5146 "Everywhere" is kind of big and mostly too far away to get here. Also take into account that we are alive right now, but aliens could have been around before us. So time and space can also explain why we have not seen any. Besides, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence over many centuries up to recently, including eye witness accounts, and many different cultures that we have been visited, but people choose not to believe and then claim we have not seen any.
I disagree with the statement that “the military was not interested” in the UFO phenomena of the 1950s. If the military wasn’t interested, they’d have ignored it, without paying anything towards its investigation, or employing anyone in research.
The military obtained (without stating as such) sufficient government funding to form several “Projects” (Project Sign, Project Grudge… Project Blue Book, undoubtedly others, probably lasting until present, though they won’t admit it) employing many personnel in investigative research into what was causing the sightings. It’s clear that this was important for these reasons:
If “we” have top secret military aircraft flying around, why are they being seen by civilians? Aren’t we subtle/camouflaged enough?
If “we” don’t, are these spy-planes from the Soviet Union, China, Europe, South America, or someone else? If from our allies, why isn’t the technology shared; if our enemies, why aren’t our agents bringing us evidence of said advanced technology?
Is there a paranoia outbreak, caused by our propaganda machine, affecting our civilians’ minds?
This was likely the briefings of many countries’ military or government departments, back then.
A lot of the “Men In Black” explanations of the time sound like nonsense, probably because these craft were “ours” and highly top secret military aircraft that they didn’t want discussed in the local or national papers (or Pravda! 😅), so “You saw Venus reflected in the lake with swamp gases ignited through the mist” became a sort of standard explanation!😂
For each blurry, out of focus, black and white picture taken in the 50s, when maybe 1 in 100 family homes had a camera, there should now be dozens (thousands?) or pristine, perfectly focused digital photos and videos of the same craft from multiple angles, allowing us to determine the size, shape and exact position of any UFO/UAP sighted by many witnesses. This is why I would take any “evidence” of alien encounters with a grain of salt. The fact that umpteen videos can now be generated on computer by 3D apps and AI means that the likelihood of any such “evidence” being legitimate gets smaller every day.
Absolutely fascinating video!! Please do more about space mysteries or even mysteries in general.
Beyond, thank you for this enlightenment, I appreciate you. 💯
Thanks for these. Curious acceleration. It's as if omuamua had encountered a cloud of dark matter.
Since this strange asteroid was tumbling how can you attribute it’s acceleration to outgassing since the outgassing would be inconsistent with the Direction of travel of the asteroid?
My solution to the Fermi Paradox : Interstellar travel and interstellar communication have NEVER been possible due to the laws of physics. Since the universe has stabilized, millions of civilisations have thrived, reached an advanced state then withered away, having depleted all their available resources, trapped in their own solar system, just as we are.
These civilisations have built radio-telescopes to listen to the void, but to no avail. Artificial signals have always been, and always will be too weak not to fade away in the Oort clouds/gas clouds surrounding each star. Like we did, they built space station, reached their moon(s), maybe their closest planet, but that's all. Probes were sent, but were just too insignificant to be noticed, and died.
The best aspect of this solution is that it does not contradict anything we witness now : No signals, no signatures, no megastructures, nothing.
All true
There’s gotta be a way to travel vast distances (wormholes?) we just gotta get a very good idea to make it possible! I think as long as we keep our minds open and not ridicule ideas that seem unreachable, then we can achieve great things (maybe even the 4th dimension, think of it as having more space occupying the same area)
The only wrinkle is, to the best of my current recollection of 'the state of the art', although the sheer power necessary is, at present, totally outside the resources available, _to_ _US,_ the fact is the laws of physics don't preclude superliminal travel, or the warping of spacetime to effectively allow time travel. With one exception, traveling directly along our personal past timeline, at the center point of our past light cone. Kip Thorne has written quite a bit on the subject. Including I believe the only paper on how to construct a time machine to ever appear in a respected peer-reviewed journal. Could find it if you tried. Don't want to try to convince you, though, just offering a thought or two you may find interesting.
100% bang on
Or they don't use radio, use gravity or other waves we know nothing about yet.
14:25 The notion that UFO's and aliens are some kind of engineered neo-mythology created as psychological warfare to launder more down-to-earth covert projects is not very original and it is in fact somewhat fashionable at the moment. It is actually rather implausible when you consider how easily and badly it could backfire. Drawing somebody's attention towards something with the ultimate objective of deflecting it away is a very risky gambit, so much so that I think we can reject it on theoretical grounds outside very exceptional circumstances. It's like a bank robber jumping up and down on top of his buried stash in a striped jersey and face mask every time a police car drives past, waving a placard stating: THERE IS NO STOLEN CASH HIDDEN HERE, JUST UNICORN BONES! How long would it take for somebody to realize what was really going on? So I think what you describe is actually some sort of very elaborate double-bluff.
Didn't the (what is now) USAF tell the public that its special A-bomb detonation detector balloon, which crashed at Roswell in the 1940's, was a flying saucer? Wasn't it an attempt to keep the true nature of the crash wreckage secret?
Also, along the same lines, wouldn't the military (the Government) rather have the public believe that advanced Chinese military drones were mysterious UAPs?
UFO phenomena was debunked in Condon's report in 1969. Very poor case for using is as a cover up for a secret military programs. Not to mentions most UFO witnesses were treat as mental asylum patients.
Wouldnt the effects of acceleration cancel eachother out? Towards the sun it would slow itself down and away from the sun speed up?
Well, since you mentioned it, Gravity and acceleration are the same thing.
Nimitz was 11/14/2004 off Southern California NOT Carolina.
There was an encounter off the Carolina coast very similar to the 2004 Southern California Tic-Tac encounter. A Naval task force doing workup drills prior to a deployment encountered objects that were captured on video. It was either the "Gimbal" encounter or the "Fast-Mover" encounter. Those 3 videos, Tic-Tac/Gimbal/Fast-Mover were released together. All were videos of objects encountered by Naval Task Force units practicing drills prior to a deployment.
Happy 20th anniversary, Nimitz!
I still think its so funny that in 2024 with all of our intelligence and technology we think we know how the universe started but it hinges on physics and mainly on gravity which is a complete mystery. We still have no idea how gravity really works, we can't replicate it or stop it, all we know is how to measure it from mass and gravitational waves. We have so much still to learn about our existence and the universe
do we know more than we ever have or naw tho
You're in 2025?
We can easily replicate it what do you mean? You are replicating it right now. As far as blocking it... Well... Ya likely can't. If one can it literally leads to the same issues Time travel causes.
Uhh.... you think they cannot control gravity (it's a partical, like nueons, maybe dark matter, maybe something we cannot name yet?) Who knows? Keep asking! Although I think they can do one better... I think they can put objects in a 4th/5th, or maybe more dimensions. Air, water, vacuum, don't matter! Shits flying through it like it's not there. Look at quantum physics... there is an invisible world all around us. Nothings impossible friends! Do it, or make it!
@@seditt5146 are you a real scientist or a youtube scientist?
This is what I do, and I'm gonna a let you in in a little secret.....
We straight up pretend to have gravity figured out. We don't. Like AT ALL.
You'll notice most of the time gravity is mentioned it's relative to earth. We'll say "Jupiter's gravity is 2.4 times that of earth" instead of saying "it has 2.4 gigawhizzes of gravity".
For a long time we thought it was tied to mass, but it's not. Jupiter is 11 times bigger than earth, and weighs more than every other planet combined. But it's gravity is weak comparatively. Stranger still is when you go DOWN in mass, gravity disappears altogether. You're no more attracted to a skyscraper than you are a coffee cup. There seems to be a minimum mass needed before gravitational pull starts to become realized.
Because we know mass is likely not what dictates gravity, our current theory is that it has more to do with the makeup of the object than it does with the size of the object. For now we use Gs as a measurement but again, that's relative to earth.
This has big implications too. The reason Einsteins theory of relativity is still a theory and not a law is because of the M.
That damn M.
It's not predictable or scalable. We can't use it because it's different for everything we measure even if it's two objects of the same size.
It's an interesting field of study but also a frustrating one. We know celestial bodies have a force pulling things towards them. But sometimes it just doesn't work.
Look at the moon.
It should've collided with earth a billion years ago. It's too close. They both have gravity and should both be pulling themselves together.
But they don't.
What a great presentation.❤
but if Oumouaouaua was a sail, it shouldn't tumble like this to keep consistent acceleration, right? we would see spikes in its acceleration when the sail would be facing the Sun, but it would probably be facing it all the time to maximize its efficiency, so probably no tumbling motion...
I've been thinking about that. My brain isn't very big but people are submitting all sorts of design ideas to NASA about non electronic purely mechanical ways to explore Venus. You could maybe shape it in a way where it is face on in and face out on the way out and somehow when it reaches perihedron whatever became face on to the star?
Superb narration!
I think having a "classification" is close to the least important thing needed for these objects. However these things get named or grouped together changes nothing about them.
Pluto was once classified as a planet, now it is classified as a Dwarf planet, that didn't help anything, it didn't suddenly give us any new information about Pluto. If there are seven objects out there, they are most likely very different from each other and worth studying on their own merit.
It made things much worse.
They kept telling people "Pluto isn't a planet."
Dwarf just means a small version of a thing.
A dwarf person is a person.
A dwarf star is a star.
A dwarf planet isn't a planet.
This is semantically incorrect, inherently confusing, and just wrong.
Because "science communicator" Neil deGrasse Tyson says so.
One of the many annoying things that astronomers do because they have way too much time on their hands.
Asteroid, meteor, meteorite, meteoroid, is way too many names for the same thing.
No wonder people get bored.
Such communication, much science!
and even if there are multiple following the same pattern, since the first object which started the investigation is now gone we cant confirm if it was the same.
all we can do is find other objects which match the data we already have and learn more about future objects to classify them correctly but we cant go to the past and get more data.
also while it is true that the classification doesnt advance science, it does show case how much we know about something if we can reliably classify everything correctly and also you would rather have a list of 100 meteors seperate from a million objects then a list of 1 million and 100 objects all mixed in to one, especially when looking for something specific.
the more we can fine tune the data and seperate them in to more accurate groups it becomes more easy to work with those lists and compare different objects with each other.
@@ai-spacedestructor I didn't say that classification was useless. I was specifically pushing back on one of the first statements in the video that claimed it was the "most" interesting or "most" important.
In answer to your question, we already do have that situation, take the classification of "star" that classification is then split up into a dozen or so categories and each of those is split up into sub-categories etc. until we are talking about the characteristics of an individual star. In that case it can be useful to narrow down a star so that if we call it a red dwarf, we already know a certain number of it's characteristics without having to go and state the size, heat, mass. However in the case in this video we are talking about less than ten objects, where is the need to split them further?
Thanks for this video!
I think sending radio signals to an advanced civilisation is a bit like a cave man hammering on a hollow log and not getting a reply from the moon. I guess we are not yet advanced enough to achieve the contact we desire.
Even if it's reuploads this channel is a hidden gem
22:50 I really like this particular video, I thought all the public conspiracy theories around this one were hilarious given that not only could you see wings flapping but if I recall correctly the pilots also talk about a bird. Thunderf00t even did some trigonometry and published a video proving that the size of the thing was no bigger than a seagull.
Trying to lock onto a bird with a camera pod is a game for bored pilots and sensors operators. CIWS sometimes locks a bird, it's not just planes. Military IR T-pod cameras are good enough to see details of a bird from several km away. If you can lock a seagull from 10km away, why not?
Humans are so easily tricked. Imagination is cool, but it can get you into trouble, too. The rustling in the bush could be a lion, and many will assume it's a lion, but it's almost always just going to be the wind or something else that's not a lion _even when we know lions exist on Earth._
Let's be real, the universe is a really big place in it takes a lot of time and energy to travel between stars. If we're visited by anything, it's probably going to be either unmanned probes or relativistic kill weapons that were fired at us the moment our first TV broadcasts were detected. I for one am in favor of the Dark Forest hypothesis. The universe is vast and old, and it only took intelligent life less than 5 billion years to evolve on this planet. The whole universe is about three times older than that, and with self-replicating machines moving at only 1% of the speed of light you could colonize a whole galaxy within only a few million years. Just about everything is a threat to life, and intelligent life is a huge threat to intelligent life. From a purely pragmatic stance, I don't think it's wise for us to actively announce our presence and location for anyone who can hear.
I don't think Earth has been visited, either by unmanned probes or by little green men. But many people want to believe things, and when they want to believe something they find ways to make themselves believe it. It's not any different from religion, and even religious people acknowledge that most religious people (if only by virtue of sheer statistics) are mistaken.
You make good points, all based on our current knowledge. However, everything we know is arguably a tiny fraction of all that can be known, and daily we are finding we need to correct our knowledge even when it comes to things we have thought settled for decades. Whatever reality is, we cannot perceive it. Our minds lie to us, fill in gaps, show us a lion in the bush when there is no lion, possibly to keep us alive, possibly to keep us in the dark. I don't know what is really going on, I just know it is mad hubris to think we have such a firm grasp on reality that we can exclude the possibility of anything. I trust the scientific method to provide correct solutions, but only when we know what we are testing. Until then the only correct answer is 42.
@@RoySATX You make an interesting point. While I generally agree with the philosophy behind it, I think some of what you said is just flat out false.
Actually we *_do_* know for a fact that the thing in that video was a bird, the distance and angles relative to the plane, and therefore the speed and size of everything involved.
Until such a time as we have a good reason to think that we have been visited by extraterrestrials, the only intellectually honest position to hold is that we have not been visited by extraterrestrials. I'm not at all saying we should close our minds to the possibility that there are facts for which we have no evidence (I mean we *_know_* this is true or else PhD programs wouldn't require novel research). Just that, while we don't necessarily know what we don't know, we have access to statistical and psychological tools that indicate pretty definitively that UAPs aren't aliens.
We absolutely *_can_* exclude specific possibilities, that's how the scientific method works. If we couldn't, then we wouldn't have these fancy pocket computers to instantly communicate with.
@@RoySATX Greetings from the BIG SKY of Montana. I got 43, hum.
Our Solar System is remarkably lacking in terrestrial planets in the mass range of about 5 to 20 times the Earth's mass.
These are quite common in other Planetary Systems.
Please note that Ice Giants don't count in this reckoning.
We have to remember that the inhabitants of any planet significantly more massive than Earth would be trapped on the surface due to the energy requirements to achieve even low orbit, let alone leave the vicinity of the planet.
@@dewiz9596People who are native to a High Gravity Planet would be perfectly adapted to their environment and would have no issues with their own gravity.
WE would have difficulties on such a Planet just as a Mars Native would be extremely uncomfortable on Earth.
@@anthonyshiels9273 yeah lemme jump to low orbit real quick
@@OddricmYou can do exactly that on Apophis when she comes to visit. Osiris ApEx will be able to video your performance.
I think you meant 17 meters per second squared for the acceleration.
What a story, Mark.
21:50 It showed up as you said, but you forgot to mention it showed up on the pilots next location
one thing I'm convinced of is that I don't know. Maybe the solution would be to eliminate everything else... possibly with automated laser monkeys and acid
Aloha, Alex. Love your voice. I can hear your smile when you speak.
I took an "Oumuamua" last week and needed to use the plunger
No poop knife?
it was a mushy one
Very mature. Thanks for that.
@@leightaft7763 its "manure" not "mature", and you're welcome
Lol poop
With the 'Dark Comets' I would guess the increase in velocity would be from entry into a Space Manifold
Now I want to get a Hayabusa motorcycle and decorate it to look like a satellite.
My question is, how did Oumuamua survive the 3 light year expanse of the Oort cloud? If it is a free-floating object, why did it not collide with any of the trillions of icy planetesimals and disintegrate? Or was it originally much larger in size and splintered from an Oort cloud collision? Or did it "steer" itself through the debris field?
There’s a ton of empty space between those objects
@@jefffinkbonner9551 That may be so but those planetesimals, estimated to be more than a trillion in number cover an area spread over 27 trillion kilometers (three light years) starting from the interstellar medium to the outer boundary of the heliosphere. That density is why the debris field is called "cloud" in the first place. So imagine a free floating object like the Oumuamua traversing this debris field for 27 trillion kilometers without colliding with any of the one trillion mountain sized objects. What are the odds of that happening?
@@jefffinkbonner9551 By the way, I believe that Oumuamua is a shard of some planet in the Vega system that suffered a cataclysmic event and was destroyed. I'm just surprised that it has managed to travel such a long distance without disintegrating from collision, especially when traveling through the Oort cloud. But then again nothing in impossible in the universe.
Avi Loeb wrote a paper - what a surprise.
Great objective reports.
An excellent contribution, as ever :>
Bill Nelson looks like an alien in a really bad disguise
The name „Amua amua” ( nevermind the spelling) shouldn’t be said more than three times consecutively
If you say it 3 times while looking in a mirror in the dark, it accelerates spookily out of the solar system!
Im surprised they didn't just label Oumuamua as a quantum qomet, thats usually the label given when folk dont know what something is or hoe it functions.
Imagine for a second when new maths come to be which make physics a nonessential achaic form of calculation from a time when man believed it to be the pinnacle of their intellectual prowess and the gauge of all things seen and unseen throughout the universe...
One thing in our way of achieving anything , ourselves. If we are the first we have a great chance of being the last. Logic tells me that because we are war like we will never get the chance to go much further than we have. We can't mature or grow out of this emotional way of being. We are most likely going to destroy ourselves before we ever get the chance to change.😢
or a pretty convincing video from a fisherman in turkey that actually show occupants that look anything but human
What do you think of the description of what can only be an alien battle over Nuremberg Germany in 1561? And the vimanna from ancient India? Just curious what people think of those two things.
Edit: or the Billy Meier case out of Switzerland... That case is the real deal for sure. The only thing I don't understand is why they chose him to spread the word. He hasn't done s very good job at it, but other people have helped him tremendously with getting the message out to people. The pictures he has are 100% legit, as they were taken on film and verified by Kodak in the 80s.
I just googled "Billy Meier UFO pictures". I quickly found one of what looks to be a disk with flattened conical top and bottom. It's seemingly near eye level/camera level, and almost edge-wise relative to the photographer, who himself seems to have taken the picture from a hill overlooking countryside.
As a quite proficient "photo-shopper" (that is to say I'm competent at making things appear in images that seem real but aren't, not to say that digital image editing was involved in the photo in question), I was struck at how the disk is quite clear looking despite what seems to be very foggy conditions that day.
Note: pine trees in the image, which seem to be just a 2 or 3 minute walk downhill from the photographer, are more obscured by mist than the disk itself is.
Given a reasonable minimum size estimate of a disk UFO (at least big enough to fit one or two small humanoids in?), given the disk's apparent height, and given its relative clarity despite the seemingly foggy conditions, I would guess that the disk is a lot smaller than a craft that even one small humanoid could fit in, and is only a matter of several metres/yards away from the photographer.
In conclusion, I think that the disk is less than 1 metre in circumference, and is probably a fake UFO launched into the air, perhaps by a clay-pigeon launcher or something similar, and photographed.
Take it easy, boy boy 😮🚀
Ive taken pictures of just normal stuff... really big appearing moon, neat looking sunset, stuff like that. Knowing what i was looking at and how cool it looked, my phone pics were always super disappointing. I can imagine a tiny little thing that's clearly odd to the observer just wouldnt translate well in an image capture. For that reason i dont expect actual physical evidence like a clear photo. Testimony of hundreds or thousands of people is pretty good evidence to start.
Aliens speaking to us.. It would be like us trying to talk to ameba.
"Southern Carolina..." Cute.
is that close to Western Virginia??
The Princeton was off the coast of Southern "CALIFORNIA "!
I had a super vivid dream about ball lightning when I was a young teen. I remember I fell asleep watching a thunderstorm outside from bed. Then I remember a ball of lightning hanging in the air, and it came into my room right through the walls before disappearing. I felt it was real for years.
Probably real. As a plasma soliton the energy fields of ball lightning can move through or around objects.
Whoa! I have a similar story. I was lying next to my sleeping gf one night and i remember opening my eyes because of a sense of light in the room and when i sat up, i saw as clear as day, a ball of light floating across the room and disappearing into the closet on the far end of the room. I definitely didn't dream it. It didn't light the room up really bright, but the object itself was VERY bright. It was about the size of a large grapefruit. It moved so slowly and eerily. I tried to wake up my gf immediately so she could see it but by the time she came to, it was already gone. Nobody ever believed me, but i swear on my life it happened.
We don’t know what nothing is, to us nothing is a something, but it can’t be, it’s just nothing and our brains can’t see it
"Nothing" is a concept formed in the human mind. If there were to be a physical manifestation of nothing, it would merely be a lack of difference. A sameness.
Nothing is word. Nothing is nothing ok you get it?
@@TheBoss-hh4ni ok if nothing is so plentiful, show me nothing and explain nothing
The type of video i turn on , to fall asleep :
acceleration is due to charge and magnetic fields
The chances of hearing from the wow signal location is unlikely unless you focus on that location
"No telescope can study it again" ....the James Webb??????
Strange question, have we attempted to shoot down one of these UAP’s? If we haven’t I’d be kinda shocked
Unless we eventually develop time travel (not bloody likely) other countries developing advanced technology doesn't explain these things. They would have to send it back at least 100 years from today to explain the phenomena.
The Fermi paradox assumes technological civilizations can go extinct. Ancient Aliens is a goofy channel but some of that South American very high altitude stone work is rather astonishing. We probably couldn't build the pyramids today if we wanted to.
We couldn't AFFORD to.
What a pretty thumbnail
Great job
Personally I would like aliens to be proven to exist. Can you imagine the money that would pour into space travel and space research if we confirmed aliens existed? It would be a massive shift and an exciting time.
Under the condition that we are not living in a cosmic zoo. If "aliens", "demons", "gods" -or whatever you want to call it -are already here, the first questions would be "what is the meaning of the humankind?" There is some existential horror included, and one of the reasons we can't be allowed to get to know the truth.
There's a lot of negativity in the comments on this one. Weird...
Controversial topics attracting a lot of new viewers and exposing the weirdos among the subscribers.
The Aspen Institute is ramping up a large scale operation right now, expect more of this activity across all media.
@@JackParsons2I need to know more about this
@@burakranger7828 You need to look into the history of specific characters there. Garrett Graff is a good start. Look at his past employers and then go look at the projects he's working on with Aspen. There are deeper connections, this is just surface level stuff to get started with. Think about project Blue Beam and things will start to fall into place.
@@JackParsons2 what the fuck is that, explain it to me or I'm calling this schizophrenic bs
If aliens arent real can we just make an assortment of mutants and release them for youtube videos?
I didn't check the channel name and i thought "hmm sounds a lot like Alex from Astrum" x)
Alex from Astrum belongs somewhere... You just haven't figured out where yet....
It's the AI kicking in man....
22:25 There is also a longer video but guys in black suits showed up and took it all. Those are Commander Fravor's words, not mine
I have had ball lightning. I can vouch it hurts.
Please expand
@@tobiasolausson8085got struck on the ballz
@@tobiasolausson8085the forces of the universe build up in the scrotum, and the energy involved is so intense, lightning shoots out.
I think if you believe it strong enough, we can make anything happen. What a ride!
Doesn't mention That Blue book and the others were basically meant to quash public opinion by explaining away sightings..
Also when he brings up the 2004 Nimitz stuff he says 80,000 to 20,000 ft. In a blistering speed. It was actually something like 80,000 ft to 50 ft in less than 1 second... I paused to do this comment but I have the feeling I would be coming back continually throughout the video so I'll stop there
8:46 anyone would think that this Avi Loeb guy had a book to sell and disproving his obsessive alien theory would harm it's sales.
Oh he did? Never mind.
NAILED IT. HE'S got a plethora of bat shit crazy papers. Grifters are the worst.
He’s a crack pot.
Loeb is a misinformation (counterint) agent or something. Every single thing he proposes sounds like total crap 😂
@@theWinterWalker Its funny how yall fell for propaganda against him. EVERY theory put forth so far is either worse or requires stuff even more unlikely than Aliens yet since the community is scared of that word they piled on. There is still no solution that works other than his but I am willing to bet you dont know that and fell for one of the dozens of really crappy "Science" papers attempting to show it was something else. Reality is I dont believe his solution is the answer and its instead likely a Contact binary that split when close to the sun and we just lost sight of the other half. It would explain the light curve, acceleration and since it was at the Galactic rest frame it likely was just a loose contact binary. Either way, the hydrogen explanation is nonsense.
@@VeronicaGorositoMusic Well it sounds like crap because you are just extremely misinformed and believe such things should be unlikely instead of the reality where they should be far more likely than the hydrogen iceberg that simply cant exist. The push against him screamed more of misinformation than anything to be honest. It was weird and he dug in, rightfully so as the alternatives were far more absurd than his ideas.
You ever fallen off of anything before? That's gravity pulling you down to the ground. It's nothing pushing you down to the ground. You're getting pulled down and you accelerate pretty dog on fast
Have you ever picked anything up off the ground. That's Acceleration. When you drop it. That's called deceleration. There is nothing pulling on you. There are dozens of vacuum chamber experiments proving this.
32 ft per second, per second, to be exact. . .
You don't get pulled down.
Galileo's heliocentric model of the solar system showed that the Earth is in motion around the sun. It's this motion that is accelerating you in space. Jump off a building and the building is no longer accelerating you so you start decelerating back to a point where there is sufficient force to accelerate you, which is the ground in most cases.
An apple falling from a tree is no different than an apple bouncing off a truck and hitting the trailing vehicle.
The laws of physics are equally applicable in all frames of reference. Vertical or horizontal. The physics is still the same.
Gravitational attraction is flat earth/stationary frame physics.
The earth is not flat. Its in motion.
You go from an inertial frame, the building accelerating you, to a non-inertial frame, accelerating yourself. Since you are not under power, you are decelerating while the ground below you is still at a constant velocity.
IMO, Avi Loeb lost all credibility when he pushed the "Alien" theory. He got lots of publicity for it, but I'd never put any faith in anything he says in the future.
He's written like 800 articles and never moved anything forward. People will write response articles to his articles and he writes response articles to the response articles. He's like a youtuber but less fun.
😂😂
Yeah and he shouts down anyone who challenges his ideas. Absolutely no decorum or credibility, he really coasts on his academic pedigree. I doubt very many other scientists would be able to shitpost as much as him and keep their careers.
@@firstandlastname6194 I'm glad to see at least some ppl agree with me on this. When he first made the "Alien" proposal I called him out for it and was shot down by nearly everyone.
When Trump first decided to run for office, I said he was the biggest threat to Democracy in history. Ppl are finally beginning to see what I meant.
So a professor says "hey maybe it's this possible yet unlikely thing" and your reaction is "I've lost all faith in you or anything you'll ever say or do again."
No one said the internet was rational.
ThunderFoot's debunk of the three US navy videos (TicTac, etc) is way more believable that your suggestion that "there's something weird going on"
Unless and until there are multiple videos showing the SAME debunk-resistant phenomenon then it's just noise. Lumping 100 different things together and then referring to them as 'it' really rubs me the wrong way.
If you are going to do more videos on the topic, then PLEASE be MUCH more sceptical, and research the various alternative explanations that have been given that everyone (including you) seems to ignore.
And please avoid saying that planet + apple + chair must be a sign of 'something' because there are clearly three definite instances of it.
Replying to myself to note that "dark triangles with lights at the apexes" seems to me the most sustained and recurring kind of report.
But I balance that against the shape of modern stealth aircraft, especially if they're maybe flying in formation at night.
Yea but he’s also a weird SJW that is strangely obsessed with Elon musk
Calm down weirdo
@@Zenith_123 why would I take advice from anyone as embarrassingly gullible as you?
Calm down weirdo.
How was Joey Bidumbbell really elected in 2020 ? That’s a major mystery in itself !
Don't be the guy who changes the subject of everything to politics. There are plenty of political vids on TH-cam where you can high five other people for hating the USA president. We're talking about other stuff here
I know nothing about the science behind all this, but it seems to me that Emoramora is behaving similar to a Boomerang. Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume Boomerangs accelerate on the way back without "push!" Though I'm probably missing the obvious!?!?...
I assume you’re referring to ‘Oumuamua’, then, yes, you’re missing a lot. But I assume you’re referring to the very slight acceleration that was observed, most probably due to outgassing, although there is conjecture about the details.
A boomerang on the other hand, does not accelerate and its motion is a combination of aerodynamic and gyroscopic forces, so is quite complex.
You spelled it wrong and I’m pretty sure a boomerang wouldn’t work in space bro😭
@@Mqmn The intention behind my comment was to provide a "hypothetical" example to possibly help inspire thoughts and theorems that otherwise maybe would not have been thought of or considered without first reading my "obviously unintelligent" comment that @daveozip4326 had already "helpfully," quickly, and completely cleared up by "contributing" with a "contextual" and direct answer covering the entirety of my comment while also "immersing" in the conversation by providing "beneficial" and "constructive" information to the argument!
On the other hand, though I used incorrect spelling of a word I had only ever heard, therefore guessing the spelling of said word, the original purpose and relevance of my comment remains standing regardless of any answers given, or "thought of" already or henceforth, whereas there is *no rhyme or reason, nor any point or need of comments like yours! 😔🙏
Edit: is the "no" with a * before it "and obviously this edit note!"
you can push OR pull an object to make it accelerate ... not just push ... that is BASIC physics
NASA (never a straight answer) ... will never tell the truth about UFO's ... nor will the military nor that government ... the true government not the puppet show the public sees
why havent aliens visited us outright ... look at our society ... grown educated people ate laundry soap because they thought it was FUN ... we barely have intelligent life here ... and most of the intelligent people here avoid the rest like they have the plague ... so why would an alien stop in and say HI openly when we have a planet of idiots in control
have aliens answered ... YES ... crop circles ... and NO some drunk people with boards and strings didnt make all of them and they sure as heck didnt make the complex responses ...
@1:07:13, early human astronomers thought all the bodies in the night sky were the same thing. The plants were called Wondering Stars or ἀστήρ πλανήτης (astēr planētēs).
There was no sense of them being special other then they didn't follow the rest of the stars as they went around the dome of the sky.
Please do not attribute things to ancient peoples that they didn't attribute to them selves. They did not know they were orbiting our solar system.
"Tricked" is an odd word to use here.
between 100 and 1000 meters......very adequate description
We exist in a time dilation field, or in layman's terms a gravity well. As an observer of objects exiting it's field of effect, as the distance grows the objects speed appears to increase, or be greater than expected, there should be gravitational drag slowing it down. I think its already accounted for but misstated in the video.
"Gravitational Time Dilation: According to general relativity, time passes more slowly near massive objects, such as planets or black holes, due to their gravitational fields. This effect is significant only at very high gravitational potentials, like those near a black hole (e.g., 1 hour on a planet orbiting a black hole is equivalent to 7 years on Earth)."
To explain high eccentricity of the outer solar system objects, one only needs to acknowledge the the stars in the sky move and at times pass close enough to perturb the natural orbits of those objects. Also, there is no ort cloud because of this, just so everyone knows that when that breakthrough is announced in 80 years.
Staaaaaahhhhh.
There is a program studying these objects. They not extraterrestrial but Terrestrial ocean civilization older than men. These beings have their civilization in the ocean. Our technology just has developed to be able to see them. Their numbers are small and pose no threat. They are humanoid but their ancestors are not apes.
The best evidence I feel is what I've seen with my own eyes. No cameras, my memory is accurate. I've seen an actual spaceship very clearly, another time me and my cousin witnessed a ship moving and accelerating beyond comprehension, and yet another time I ran after a silent strange light moving thru the forest. Those do not include the strange lights I witnessed time after time heading towards the same location. Can't be sure I've been abducted, all I know is after the "paralysis" and bright light, I have 2 lumps in my body that weren't there before. None of these instances were natural or explainable. My belief in aliens is and will always be unwaivering. My only wish is they come back. 😊 I have questions for them.
Probably not lightning. If it were lightning it wouldn't travel that slowly
48:40 sounds like strong evidence if you ask me.
0:56 it’s a marsupial!
Actually, mysteries didn't confuse us, but it is the so called scientists who are confusing us, after getting confused!!😂😂😂😂
Oumuamua was a Vogon scoutship,the fleet building the intergalactic highway that will destroy the Earth are fast approaching.Don't Panic,just make sure you have your towel handy.
The WOW.. It was a flock of birds bouncing off a building.. Just funnin, I have no idea.
They tossed a rock at us to see what we’d do 🤷♂️
We got to figure out how to beat the expansion of space before we go anywhere.. The speed of light ain't shit.
Given the sneaky self serving nature of our government Project Blue Bean (which may not exist) makes more sense than aliens visiting earth.
It should be called Rama
Literally no scientists are confused by any of this