Don't apologize for the rant. You were saying what all of us were thinking. And it sounds like I need to upgrade my Magic Lantern. That T3i can shoot raw now is excellent news. Now that if they could get rid of the audio auto gain...
Yeah, I work at Best Buy and we got notification that all T4i cameras were on recall because a few of the bodies had issues with the rubber grip rubbing off. They had been getting into some lawsuits from people who were having allergic reactions to the powder-like rubber residue. I haven't been allowed to sell a T4i for a few months now.
Dave, rant any day you please! I spoke with Canon sale reps and they absolutely agreed with my rant on crop and full frame cameras in their line up. I wish I had watched this before going to that media expo...
I do not get to Your (or anyone elses) videos necessary quickly, but I do usually get to them. This video is exactly why I subscribe to Yours. Telling it like it really is, not being afraid to do so in fear of loosing whatever, is what I want (and expect) even if I don't like hearing it initially. However, I've learned a whole buncha lotta mostly, so TY for that.
Rumor has it the reason for such similar cameras was lenses: Canon had to rush in and release the T4i without a "video-friendly" 18-55mm STM kit lens (the only lens in this category at the time was the 18-135mm STM). So, after coming up with the renewed kit lens, plus some factory recalls regarding the T4i's focus system, it was decided to release a "new" model alongside it.
I just brought a used 650d (3000 actuations, hardly worn in!) I'm on a very tight budget and it was the first of the cameras I'd chosen as contenders (60d 650d 700d) that came up for sale within my budget. Also got a nice Canon 17-85mm f4-f5.6 if is lens with it, too. Your reviews were really helpful in that they showed me there's more that's the same on these cameras than is different. I really was glad to get the only one with a touchscreen. I wasn't married to wanting it, but now I have it in my hands it is self evident how much more useful it is. 650d is the winner in my books, simply for the touchscreen. Although initially it was a tough choice between that and the 60d for it's longer burst before the shutter lag kicks in, I came down on the side of the touchscreen. If you wanted to shoot more active subjects (especially things like skateboards or bikes doing tricks at the local ramp, track or or park,) then the 60d would be a smarter choice overall. You can't put much between them in image quality. First thing I did when I got the camera delivered at home was not pack up and go out shooting. I got online, googled Magic Lantern, watched a few videos on how to install it and how to use it, read no horror stories at all about it because I couldn't find any, then I made all my SD cards bootable and put ML on all of them. The quality of images the hardware provides and the added features Magic Lantern brought to capturing those images means for $500 I have a camera I'm going to spend a long time getting better on before I outgrow it. I just hope touchscreen comes to full frame before my next upgrade!
Go with the t3i and install magic lantern. Use that extra money saved on a prime lens and you're all set to go. Now find yourself a model and you're a photographer :) lol
Good thing I got my t4i last month, and I am loving it. Dave your the man! congrats on the 10 million views. keep doin it till the year 3000! I always learn something from your channel.
The T4i hasn't only been discontinued, but rather recalled. There was a small design flaw in the rubber grips when Canon upgraded this model from the T3i. It seems as thought the rubber grips in the T4i would turn white after a while and cause some minor skin irritation in the hands of the users. I have been lead to believe that the reason for the change to a T5i is mainly because of the new rubber pads. This is why the two cameras are mechanically identical. However, they had to change the rotational dial and make some VERY small software changes in the menu system to justify calling it a T5i.
Thanks for your review of the Canon T5i DSLR vs. the Canon T4i DSLR. Your review helped me to decide which DSLR camera to upgrade to. I bought the Canon T5i with the EF-S 18-55mm/f1:3.5-5.6 IS STM lens, and also bought the EF-S 55-250mm/f1:4-5.6 IS STM lens yesterday. BTW, the mode dial is a helpful innovation, at least, for me. I also immediately researched Magic Lantern and installed it to my new T5i, just gotta figure it out. Thanks, again!
The only "problem" with that is what your goal is. I do stills, not just video, so the Canon Rebels work for me. The BMPCC is a great camera though from what I can see. But there is still a huge crop factor on that device. If anything, I'm going to save up and get a Mark III.
Well, I am looking for a first DSLR, i was using Canon S5IS with CHDK and developed raw from it and learned how to improve my bad taken shots. But pursuing my new DSLR I was sure that Nikon D7100 will be my first one. After watching some other videos about 650D I started to change my mind but this fantastic video convinced me that 650D will be my first DSLR. Thank you very much. Of course, Magic lantern part totally left me speechless.
I have both /between T5i and the d7100 / d7100 is the best and sharpest IMAGE even sharper better than the new d7200 ( d7200 design for fast moving sport / not for sharpness ).............do very little sport shooting so I STICK WITH d7100 for SHARPNESS / canon are good for color like very color full flower (IMAGE NOT AS SHARP AS D7100 so I HAVE BOTH SHOOTING AT EVENT OR PARTY )
Same here --working at a camera store and got the recall notice. I still think they could've come out with something a bit more refined with the time that they had between the T4i and the T5i.
It's still in development, especially for the brand new 700D. But you can compile the current source code and install it on your camera. Or you wait until they finally release the next stable version with official support for the 650D, 700D, 1100D and 5D Mark III ...
Hi Dave, I don't have any links, but I can confirm that there was an issue with the glue and the rubber of the grip reacting for some batches of T4i. Basically the glue was safe, the rubber was safe, but when combined, they formed a chemical that some people are allergic to. It does seem like Canon used this as an excuse to upgrade to the T5i with the new mode dial, and a new kit lens. I don't think the T5i is intended as an upgrade, unless you're allergic to your T4i :)
They have about equal dynamic range, but that's not because of the 12-bit or 14-bit color. The 12- or 14- bits only refers to the number of different colors the picture can be made of.
I bought the t5i because of its price compared to t6i and 70D... :) The only problem I encountered is my class 4 SD card(freebie), t5i automatically stopped during video recording so I'm going to buy a new SD card (sandisk extreme 32 gig)
Why did Canon discontinue the T4i when some people prefer it to the 700d ?
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Hi Dave, thank you for your enlightening information between this 2 cameras. I am trying to get information because I want to upgrade from Canon Powershot SX30 to DSLR. Right now is T4i is more expensive and less available than T5i, Why?, Has t5i less quality? according to you they are almost equal, but why buyers are after T4i than T5i. Please help me, your opinion is very important in deciding in which one to buy.
Check out the "RAW Video" section in the Magic Lantern forum. There's a whole thread about RAW video on the 600D. Or do you mean Magic Lantern in general? You can find many tutorials on how to install Magic Lantern on the T3i here on TH-cam. I like the one from MediaUnlocked most.
Dude, i loved your rant! I just subscribed to your channel! The world needs more people like you having the courage to speak up the truth!! You made me decide for the t4i and i will probably sell my t3i! Thanks!
They are nice, but I would suggest the 18-135mm STM lens that you can get with the camera. I have it with the t4i. The auto focus is silent. I put my shotgun mic next to it and racked focus with out any noise at all. Both are great, but I would suggest the 18-135mm.
i think it was a good rant. also i think it is funny they are discounting the T4i camera. most retailers on a lower lever such as, sams club, walmart, target, best buy, etc, or still selling the T3i on their selves at the store in my area. i've yet to see the T4i in any of their stores.
I Disagree with you big time Dave - re the dial turning all the way round. I have been after a 650D, or, and pref, a 700D for a while and been scouring e-bay. I favoured the 700 but saw a good deal on a 650D with handgrip and 4 batteries for a good price so bought that. I oft shoot in high dynamic scenes so will oft want to switch from Aperture priority to backlit HDR mode. Now if you're just doing that a handful of times no problems but when you're doing it quite a few times during a full days shooting the dial not turning all the way round becomes quite a pain in the @r5e as the settings are pretty much at the extremes of the dial I defo wish I had the 700 :(
0:55 "WHAT DID YOU SAY, BRO?!" "YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME, BRO?!" "I'M GONNA KICK YOUR ASS, BRO!" "GIMME YOUR BEST SHOT, BRO!" 1:03 "I'm not talking to you, bro!" "I hate you, bro!" "I don't give a crap about your crap, bro!" "Your pictures suck, bro!"
Canon had a recall problem with the rubber grip on the t4i, so instead of updating the model, they just released and entirely new camera. Not really sure why they don't update models, but they just release a whole new camera.
Felt the same way Dave when I heard about the 700d release. It's a shame to see Canon starting to fall behind competitors, because they're banking on past success. I hope Canon will up their game with the release of the 70d and 7dii.
I liked the rant about Magic Lantern lol. I use it on my 550D and it's just awesome. It only works when you have the memory card in which you have the ML software on. I changed SD cards the other day to one that didn't have ML on and I felt lost without it...Soon put it on that card when I got home though!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Canon release the new STM kit lens with the T5i? I don't think it merits a new generation in the Rebel series, but it's definitely more than just a knob upgrade.
I also heared that. Some problems with the rubber becomming white over time. They had such problems also on some older models. I totally agree with you Dave, Canon has to get their act togheter. The 18mpx sensor is a dinosaur. Hybrid CMOS sensor, puh.. I cant help it, but I kinda dont like the newer canon models. There is something sluggish about them. Dont misunderstand me, they are faster, but they feel a bit cheaper than they used to do.
Hey Dave I agree with you on the rant, however it can ALWAYS be worse! You could have a Nikon D90! Like I do! Don't get me wrong, it takes phenomenal photographs but the video... (sigh) I've been shooting new videos for my channel with much difficulty and issue being that there is no form of manual control other than f-stop. I've been comparing the T4i & T5i to see what the diff is. Thanks for clearing that up!
haha yep completely true, conveniently I'm going on a shoot where we will be using the three types of pro-summer models (600D - 700D) so it will be interesting to see if there is any internal difference at all. Black Magic has just done a mega price reduction on most of their gear, the only problem I have with the cameras is the interface is a little too basic.
It was something seeing and hearing you rant! That's a first! But you hit it right on the head! It as if they feel as though if the camera model number changes, that more money in the bank. Don't even worry about new features.
Totally agree with you Dave Dugdale. I still use my T2i almost everyday since it came out and i didn't see major updates(except for the vari-angle lcd monitor witch i think is the only great update) So i wish the next Rebel comes with a full frame sensor with an environmental body shield, now i would re-consider buying a new camera.
i agree 100% with your rant... canon should adopt magic lantern to develop interfaces for there camera's.. i know people that like nikon but buy canon coz' of ML so it's making them more sales.. keep up the good work..cheers
The way I understand it is that the 700D is a complete replacement for the 650D - they are the same camera, but issues people were having with the 650D have been fixed. That's why it has been discontinued. A comparison of the 70D and 60D will probably show a ton more innovation, especially since it has been years since the 60D came out, rather than the 9 month gap between the 650D and the 700D.
The image quality will be the same, unless Canon releases a new sensor soon. Personally, I would get the 700d or whatever you were considering and good lenses, lights and audio gear.
Is there a possibility that Canon have found some massive flaw with the T4i / 650D and so have killed it off before they get too many warranty claims? Signed, a slightly puzzled 650D owner.
I know this video is a year old and the 7D Mk2 is on the horizon, but you are absolutely right. Canon is almost standing still while Sony et al have caught up and are actually beating them in some areas. I already know two pro togs that are moving over from Canon.
FYI, $200M in R&D cost is not that much for a company the size of Canon. Let me give you some breakdown on the costs of bringing up a product: 1. Wafer Mask Set -- $5M per set, not accounting for revisions (to improve performance and yield) 2. Sensor package (ceramic, HiTCE) -- $300k 3. Qualification costs -- $500k This is just for the image sensor alone; if you factor in the rest of the camera, costs add up quickly. My source: me (I'm a Product/Packaging Engineer in the semiconductor ind)
Good info to know! I'm in the market for my first DSLR-ish camera now. I'm leaning to the GH3 though. I gotta have 1080p60, and the headphone jack is really helpful, being that I'm an audio guy.
Good point mr Dugdale, But keep in mind that these cameras consumer cameras. More and more people want to DSLR, and can afford these types of cameras. For instance, I never use photo RAW mode on my 600D. I don't need to shoot pictures in Raw mode. Perhaps they did a survey, and found out that most customers (not pros) don't use raw. I do however like to film in Raw mode. :)
when this video came out they probably didn't announce that t4i got recalled because grip caused allergy reaction at some people and that is why they came out with t5i which is actually t4i just with a different grip material :) Still love his videos :)
Good video Dave, I agree with the rant to a point. You say magic lantern has cracked the video RAW for either of the 2 cameras (650D & 700D) if so where is it? As a 650D user I have been on magic lantern site oncea week looking fot ML for the 650D, it still aint been released or if it is it aint on there site.
I think they only changed the model number because they bundled it with the new 18-55 stm lens. They needed a way to differentiate the model.That's my opinion :)
Thanks for another great video! Everyone who knows your videos knows that it must take a lot to get you ranting! My T1i just broke and I will want to buy a new camera, but it's a bit sad to see where Canon is going right now and if they don't bring out a game changing 70D or 7D II soon, they might lose me despite all the money I put into lenses. The only thing that is a selling argument right now is (as you point out) Magic Lantern! Whatever, keep up the good work Dave!
Very good observation Mr. Dugdale. Thanks for the info. Do you have a training guide on the 5D MarkIII with the new update or the magic lantern software?
to me the T5i has improved video capabilities over the T4i. when I compare their videos the t5i seems very different. although personally I prefer the t4i video colors than the t5i, I could see how people would really like the t5i video for vlogging as it's very realistic and good lighting
Hey man trust, me and some guys from boston feel the same way i hate it there making us pay so much for little changes happy were not the only ones that feel that way
Don't apologize for the rant. You were saying what all of us were thinking. And it sounds like I need to upgrade my Magic Lantern. That T3i can shoot raw now is excellent news. Now that if they could get rid of the audio auto gain...
Yeah, I work at Best Buy and we got notification that all T4i cameras were on recall because a few of the bodies had issues with the rubber grip rubbing off. They had been getting into some lawsuits from people who were having allergic reactions to the powder-like rubber residue. I haven't been allowed to sell a T4i for a few months now.
Dave, rant any day you please! I spoke with Canon sale reps and they absolutely agreed with my rant on crop and full frame cameras in their line up. I wish I had watched this before going to that media expo...
Thanks for asking, not yet, I plan on making one in the fall.
I do not get to Your (or anyone elses) videos necessary quickly, but I do usually get to them. This video is exactly why I subscribe to Yours. Telling it like it really is, not being afraid to do so in fear of loosing whatever, is what I want (and expect) even if I don't like hearing it initially. However, I've learned a whole buncha lotta mostly, so TY for that.
Rumor has it the reason for such similar cameras was lenses: Canon had to rush in and release the T4i without a "video-friendly" 18-55mm STM kit lens (the only lens in this category at the time was the 18-135mm STM). So, after coming up with the renewed kit lens, plus some factory recalls regarding the T4i's focus system, it was decided to release a "new" model alongside it.
I just brought a used 650d (3000 actuations, hardly worn in!) I'm on a very tight budget and it was the first of the cameras I'd chosen as contenders (60d 650d 700d) that came up for sale within my budget. Also got a nice Canon 17-85mm f4-f5.6 if is lens with it, too.
Your reviews were really helpful in that they showed me there's more that's the same on these cameras than is different. I really was glad to get the only one with a touchscreen. I wasn't married to wanting it, but now I have it in my hands it is self evident how much more useful it is.
650d is the winner in my books, simply for the touchscreen. Although initially it was a tough choice between that and the 60d for it's longer burst before the shutter lag kicks in, I came down on the side of the touchscreen. If you wanted to shoot more active subjects (especially things like skateboards or bikes doing tricks at the local ramp, track or or park,) then the 60d would be a smarter choice overall. You can't put much between them in image quality.
First thing I did when I got the camera delivered at home was not pack up and go out shooting. I got online, googled Magic Lantern, watched a few videos on how to install it and how to use it, read no horror stories at all about it because I couldn't find any, then I made all my SD cards bootable and put ML on all of them. The quality of images the hardware provides and the added features Magic Lantern brought to capturing those images means for $500 I have a camera I'm going to spend a long time getting better on before I outgrow it. I just hope touchscreen comes to full frame before my next upgrade!
Sooo glad I got my T4i before it was discontinued. I love the touchscreen! Way easier to access and navigate menus than with the buttons.
Dude, it's like you my mind with the T5i, Canon's innovation, and the Magic Lantern team! Get out of my head Dave...
thanks for the magic lantern bit, I didn't know that exist. I'll be sure to use it after I pick up my t5i
Would be cool if you made a time lapse tutorial! I'm especially interested in how you edit and make your final video file.
Go with the t3i and install magic lantern. Use that extra money saved on a prime lens and you're all set to go. Now find yourself a model and you're a photographer :) lol
I though Magic Lantern only works with t2i. That's what I heard from Dave in one of his compare videos.
I really enjoyed the rant. 100% Agree
Good thing I got my t4i last month, and I am loving it. Dave your the man! congrats on the 10 million views. keep doin it till the year 3000! I always learn something from your channel.
The T4i hasn't only been discontinued, but rather recalled. There was a small design flaw in the rubber grips when Canon upgraded this model from the T3i. It seems as thought the rubber grips in the T4i would turn white after a while and cause some minor skin irritation in the hands of the users. I have been lead to believe that the reason for the change to a T5i is mainly because of the new rubber pads. This is why the two cameras are mechanically identical. However, they had to change the rotational dial and make some VERY small software changes in the menu system to justify calling it a T5i.
If I remember correctly, the rubber problem of the T4i was corrected before the switch to T5i.
conspiracy theory to protect canon?
Dave, thank you for putting into words what many, many out there are thinking.
Thanks for your review of the Canon T5i DSLR vs. the Canon T4i DSLR. Your review helped me to decide which DSLR camera to upgrade to. I bought the Canon T5i with the EF-S 18-55mm/f1:3.5-5.6 IS STM lens, and also bought the EF-S 55-250mm/f1:4-5.6 IS STM lens yesterday. BTW, the mode dial is a helpful innovation, at least, for me. I also immediately researched Magic Lantern and installed it to my new T5i, just gotta figure it out. Thanks, again!
The only "problem" with that is what your goal is. I do stills, not just video, so the Canon Rebels work for me. The BMPCC is a great camera though from what I can see. But there is still a huge crop factor on that device. If anything, I'm going to save up and get a Mark III.
Your rant was one of the best and honest rants ever!
Well, I am looking for a first DSLR, i was using Canon S5IS with CHDK and developed raw from it and learned how to improve my bad taken shots. But pursuing my new DSLR I was sure that Nikon D7100 will be my first one. After watching some other videos about 650D I started to change my mind but this fantastic video convinced me that 650D will be my first DSLR. Thank you very much. Of course, Magic lantern part totally left me speechless.
I have both /between T5i and the d7100 / d7100 is the best and sharpest IMAGE even sharper better than the new d7200 ( d7200 design for fast moving sport / not for sharpness ).............do very little sport shooting so I STICK WITH d7100 for SHARPNESS / canon are good for color like very color full flower (IMAGE NOT AS SHARP AS D7100 so I HAVE BOTH SHOOTING AT EVENT OR PARTY )
Same here --working at a camera store and got the recall notice. I still think they could've come out with something a bit more refined with the time that they had between the T4i and the T5i.
It's still in development, especially for the brand new 700D. But you can compile the current source code and install it on your camera. Or you wait until they finally release the next stable version with official support for the 650D, 700D, 1100D and 5D Mark III ...
Image quality they are the same if you ask me from my tests. But the T4i has some nice extra features.
Dave Dugdale t3i or t4i ? Is there a big difference
I love the rant :)
thats not even a rant, those are genuine facts. Thank you Dave!! Legit videos always
That was a rant?
The youtube watcher in me is disappointed at you not flying off the handle.
Seriously, you are a bastion of mellow dude. Thumbs up.
Dave, you hit the nail on the head with this video. Canon has really not been innovating lately, hopefully they see this video. Thanks!
I love your style in these videos Dave.
Hi Dave, I don't have any links, but I can confirm that there was an issue with the glue and the rubber of the grip reacting for some batches of T4i. Basically the glue was safe, the rubber was safe, but when combined, they formed a chemical that some people are allergic to. It does seem like Canon used this as an excuse to upgrade to the T5i with the new mode dial, and a new kit lens. I don't think the T5i is intended as an upgrade, unless you're allergic to your T4i :)
Very well done sir....I am now educated on this matter.
They have about equal dynamic range, but that's not because of the 12-bit or 14-bit color.
The 12- or 14- bits only refers to the number of different colors the picture can be made of.
If Magic Lantern had access to $800 million they would have probably created a stopper for the dailer :D
+Sherif Abo El Neel If They Had $800 Million They'll Put Canon, Sony, Panasonic & Nikon Out Of Business!!!
Great rant! Exactly what needs to be said! The Magic Lantern guys are kicking their butt, big time!
Why the huge cost variance between the Canon 50mm f1.8, the f1.4, and the f1.2....Just crazy !
I have a 50mm 1.4, and I love that lens. I also want to pick up a Tokina 11-16mm lens later this year as well!
Nice rant! We need more like that to get Canon to listen to what we really want at a good price point.
I bought the t5i because of its price compared to t6i and 70D... :) The only problem I encountered is my class 4 SD card(freebie), t5i automatically stopped during video recording so I'm going to buy a new SD card (sandisk extreme 32 gig)
Smart. It's only because your SD card needs more mb per second
I can not wait to see the reviews on the Black Magic Production Camera! Hope to have one sometime next year.
Why did Canon discontinue the T4i when some people prefer it to the 700d ?
Hi Dave, thank you for your enlightening information between this 2 cameras. I am trying to get information because I want to upgrade from Canon Powershot SX30 to DSLR. Right now is T4i is more expensive and less available than T5i, Why?, Has t5i less quality? according to you they are almost equal, but why buyers are after T4i than T5i. Please help me, your opinion is very important in deciding in which one to buy.
I broke into the DSLR world with the T2i... 6 months before it stopped being made. Still love it though. Canon makes some awesome cameras.
Check out the "RAW Video" section in the Magic Lantern forum. There's a whole thread about RAW video on the 600D.
Or do you mean Magic Lantern in general? You can find many tutorials on how to install Magic Lantern on the T3i here on TH-cam. I like the one from MediaUnlocked most.
Dude, i loved your rant! I just subscribed to your channel!
The world needs more people like you having the courage to speak up the truth!!
You made me decide for the t4i and i will probably sell my t3i! Thanks!
They are nice, but I would suggest the 18-135mm STM lens that you can get with the camera. I have it with the t4i. The auto focus is silent. I put my shotgun mic next to it and racked focus with out any noise at all. Both are great, but I would suggest the 18-135mm.
i think it was a good rant. also i think it is funny they are discounting the T4i camera. most retailers on a lower lever such as, sams club, walmart, target, best buy, etc, or still selling the T3i on their selves at the store in my area. i've yet to see the T4i in any of their stores.
great video, dave! I love how you bring it down to the point.
I Disagree with you big time Dave - re the dial turning all the way round. I have been after a 650D, or, and pref, a 700D for a while and been scouring e-bay. I favoured the 700 but saw a good deal on a 650D with handgrip and 4 batteries for a good price so bought that.
I oft shoot in high dynamic scenes so will oft want to switch from Aperture priority to backlit HDR mode. Now if you're just doing that a handful of times no problems but when you're doing it quite a few times during a full days shooting the dial not turning all the way round becomes quite a pain in the @r5e as the settings are pretty much at the extremes of the dial I defo wish I had the 700 :(
ML guys are the coolest, btw Canon Innovate in Lens Area, the STM are great, The best in the world, ...... but I agree their bodies are dissapointing
Did they have a press release about this?
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"WHAT DID YOU SAY, BRO?!"
"YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME, BRO?!"
"I'M GONNA KICK YOUR ASS, BRO!"
"GIMME YOUR BEST SHOT, BRO!"
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"I'm not talking to you, bro!"
"I hate you, bro!"
"I don't give a crap about your crap, bro!"
"Your pictures suck, bro!"
Yes, I want to try the pocket version first.
did u create the time lapse with the t5i or the t4i?
I think im going to check your T4i Video tutorial during the weekend
Thanks
Canon had a recall problem with the rubber grip on the t4i, so instead of updating the model, they just released and entirely new camera. Not really sure why they don't update models, but they just release a whole new camera.
Felt the same way Dave when I heard about the 700d release. It's a shame to see Canon starting to fall behind competitors, because they're banking on past success. I hope Canon will up their game with the release of the 70d and 7dii.
Awesome rant, you spoke what was on many people's minds. Great video.
I'll try but I am really busy right now.
Dave - this rant fits in so well. Good job :D
I love my T4i! It's my first DSLR and it works great!
I liked the rant about Magic Lantern lol. I use it on my 550D and it's just awesome. It only works when you have the memory card in which you have the ML software on. I changed SD cards the other day to one that didn't have ML on and I felt lost without it...Soon put it on that card when I got home though!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Canon release the new STM kit lens with the T5i? I don't think it merits a new generation in the Rebel series, but it's definitely more than just a knob upgrade.
I also heared that. Some problems with the rubber becomming white over time. They had such problems also on some older models. I totally agree with you Dave, Canon has to get their act togheter. The 18mpx sensor is a dinosaur. Hybrid CMOS sensor, puh.. I cant help it, but I kinda dont like the newer canon models. There is something sluggish about them. Dont misunderstand me, they are faster, but they feel a bit cheaper than they used to do.
Hey Dave I agree with you on the rant, however it can ALWAYS be worse! You could have a Nikon D90! Like I do! Don't get me wrong, it takes phenomenal photographs but the video... (sigh) I've been shooting new videos for my channel with much difficulty and issue being that there is no form of manual control other than f-stop. I've been comparing the T4i & T5i to see what the diff is. Thanks for clearing that up!
haha yep completely true, conveniently I'm going on a shoot where we will be using the three types of pro-summer models (600D - 700D) so it will be interesting to see if there is any internal difference at all.
Black Magic has just done a mega price reduction on most of their gear, the only problem I have with the cameras is the interface is a little too basic.
Another great video Dave!
can you kindly do a 60D and t5i comparison please sir :) and which is better for video and stuff. thanks Dave
It was something seeing and hearing you rant! That's a first! But you hit it right on the head! It as if they feel as though if the camera model number changes, that more money in the bank. Don't even worry about new features.
I knew it was available, i didn't know i was available for the 600D. Thanks for the info! I'll definitely check it out.
Even his rants are good natured and casual!
You talked about the Blackmagic, but I think another cool camera worth to check out is the Digital Bolex! Have you heard of it?
Totally agree with you Dave Dugdale. I still use my T2i almost everyday since it came out and i didn't see major updates(except for the vari-angle lcd monitor witch i think is the only great update)
So i wish the next Rebel comes with a full frame sensor with an environmental body shield, now i would re-consider buying a new camera.
Great rant Dave. I agree, Canon should step up to the plate and release the RAW! :)
Good points re the canon R&D and Magic lantern Dave!
i agree 100% with your rant... canon should adopt magic lantern to develop interfaces for there camera's.. i know people that like nikon but buy canon coz' of ML so it's making them more sales..
keep up the good work..cheers
The way I understand it is that the 700D is a complete replacement for the 650D - they are the same camera, but issues people were having with the 650D have been fixed. That's why it has been discontinued. A comparison of the 70D and 60D will probably show a ton more innovation, especially since it has been years since the 60D came out, rather than the 9 month gap between the 650D and the 700D.
The image quality will be the same, unless Canon releases a new sensor soon. Personally, I would get the 700d or whatever you were considering and good lenses, lights and audio gear.
A tut on how we can make such a stunning timelaps? - Love the rant!
Is there a possibility that Canon have found some massive flaw with the T4i / 650D and so have killed it off before they get too many warranty claims? Signed, a slightly puzzled 650D owner.
it depends on your preferences :) look for some videos here and watch how cheap/expensive lenses work with Canon 600D.
I wouldn't even think the mode dial could be made like this. I've never seen it lol.
I know this video is a year old and the 7D Mk2 is on the horizon, but you are absolutely right. Canon is almost standing still while Sony et al have caught up and are actually beating them in some areas. I already know two pro togs that are moving over from Canon.
Thanks Dave your videos are really full of useful information!
Cheers
FYI, $200M in R&D cost is not that much for a company the size of Canon. Let me give you some breakdown on the costs of bringing up a product:
1. Wafer Mask Set -- $5M per set, not accounting for revisions (to improve performance and yield)
2. Sensor package (ceramic, HiTCE) -- $300k
3. Qualification costs -- $500k
This is just for the image sensor alone; if you factor in the rest of the camera, costs add up quickly. My source: me (I'm a Product/Packaging Engineer in the semiconductor ind)
Can i take a video like this 6:03 without special lent or something? thanks
Good info to know! I'm in the market for my first DSLR-ish camera now. I'm leaning to the GH3 though. I gotta have 1080p60, and the headphone jack is really helpful, being that I'm an audio guy.
love the rant, exactly what I've been thinking
This is the BEST , now I will know how to use my camera and just helped me decide on buying t4i vs t5i Thank uuuuuu
nice review :) Also glad to see such people promoting magic lantern. those guys deserve donation increase :)
Good point mr Dugdale,
But keep in mind that these cameras consumer cameras. More and more people want to DSLR, and can afford these types of cameras. For instance, I never use photo RAW mode on my 600D. I don't need to shoot pictures in Raw mode. Perhaps they did a survey, and found out that most customers (not pros) don't use raw.
I do however like to film in Raw mode. :)
when this video came out they probably didn't announce that t4i got recalled because grip caused allergy reaction at some people and that is why they came out with t5i which is actually t4i just with a different grip material :)
Still love his videos :)
fyi...the music that you use is the same music fstoppers used in one of their premium courses
Good video Dave, I agree with the rant to a point. You say magic lantern has cracked the video RAW for either of the 2 cameras (650D & 700D) if so where is it? As a 650D user I have been on magic lantern site oncea week looking fot ML for the 650D, it still aint been released or if it is it aint on there site.
I was wandering what your opinions on the 18-55mm STM kit lens are. You didn't seem to mention it in this review.....?
Thanks for your true opinion Dave!
I think they only changed the model number because they bundled it with the new 18-55 stm lens. They needed a way to differentiate the model.That's my opinion :)
Thanks for another great video! Everyone who knows your videos knows that it must take a lot to get you ranting! My T1i just broke and I will want to buy a new camera, but it's a bit sad to see where Canon is going right now and if they don't bring out a game changing 70D or 7D II soon, they might lose me despite all the money I put into lenses. The only thing that is a selling argument right now is (as you point out) Magic Lantern! Whatever, keep up the good work Dave!
Very good observation Mr. Dugdale. Thanks for the info. Do you have a training guide on the 5D MarkIII with the new update or the magic lantern software?
to me the T5i has improved video capabilities over the T4i. when I compare their videos the t5i seems very different. although personally I prefer the t4i video colors than the t5i, I could see how people would really like the t5i video for vlogging as it's very realistic and good lighting
Hey man trust, me and some guys from boston feel the same way i hate it there making us pay so much for little changes happy were not the only ones that feel that way