G&L Fallout short scale bass with flatwound strings by GHS - Will it give us vintage inspired tones?

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  • In this unsponsored video, I will feature GHS flatwound strings on a G&L Fallout (Tribute series) short scale bass. Gauges 95-45, will these stainless steel flatwound bass strings give us vintage inspired tone?
    To demonstrate the tones, this playing example will have the tone knob at 25% and 75%. Within this, I will also demonstrate the tonal variation from parallel and single coil modes. As a sonic reference, I will also feature the same GHS flatwounds on a full scale Fender Player Precision bass.
    The basses were recorded direct through a Line6 Pod Go with my usual GK800RB model settings. Level matched, but no EQ or compression was added in post.
    *To best appreciate the sonic differences, headphones or quality speakers are highly recommended.
    00:00 Intro
    00:20 Background
    01:25 Setup
    02:31 Track comparison
    07:04 Assessment
    jonathanwong.bandcamp.com
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  • @MC-qe5qb
    @MC-qe5qb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The way you describe the sounds of different basses and strings you try, is really great. It’s not easy to describe sound, but you do great

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for your kind words and encouragement! Much appreciated

  • @MrSparks54
    @MrSparks54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I use GHS Precision flats on my Aerodyne bass and they sound awesome. I'll have to try them on my Fallout bass. Thanks Jonathan

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching! These GHS flats are my second favourite, second only to the Thomastik Infelds. I like that they are softer in tension/feel and smoother to the touch compared to other brands. They have a nice round fundamental note. The short scale wound length fits a 30" top load perfectly!

  • @coreypulford6971
    @coreypulford6971 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh sweet i just watched ur fallout bass review and was like hmm wonder what flats sound like and bam lmao

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The algorithm works! Thanks so much for watching!! Much appreciated.

  • @christopherfidler3019
    @christopherfidler3019 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a Big Fan of G&L. The Tribute series is great value. whenever I see a Player using one it's an instant conversation starter. I have seen Players up in arms over replacing the Bridge and MFD Pickups and I think it's because they feel it would be taking away the bass identity. I am 85% sure The Bridges and MFD Pickups on the Tribute line are the same ones G&L use on the Fullerton line. I watched Ryan from 60CycleHum take apart a G&L Comanche Tribute and Fullerton a couple months ago and the pickups and bridges looked really similar even the voltage readouts. Thanks for the video Jonathan and cheers from Toronto 🍺🇨🇦

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you’re right re identity of the bass. Thanks for watching!

  • @pczYT
    @pczYT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these strings. Sound similar to Labellas but less stiff. These are the ones I have on mt Squier Jaguar SS. I also had a set on a 6 stringer, but the low B was horrible

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on. I totally agree they have a similar thump to labella but far less stiff.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @nerkoids
    @nerkoids 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A little light foam at the bridge will get you there.

  • @lk63
    @lk63 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GHS are my favorite flatwounds; they sound a lot like Fender flatwounds did in the 70's.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on! Thanks for sharing and for watching!

  • @Kunibert_Knatter
    @Kunibert_Knatter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no doubt, a longscale is a longscale. Period.
    However, this GnL sounds pretty well and seriously, we rarely hear a bass just on its own, but most all the time in a band context. And I suspect no one will be able to hear that difference.
    In short: Take what you like and play as you like!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely. Play the bass/shape/scale that fits you and is comfortable to play. Then play music and forget about what you’re holding. Getting to that point can be hard!
      Thx for watching!

  • @user-gr9cb3sh7o
    @user-gr9cb3sh7o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jonathan. I have this exact bass (with round wounds) and was one of your subscribers who wondered how it would sound with flats. So thank you SO MUCH for this very informative video. I have GHS Precision Flats on my hollow-body Guild Starfire 1 bass and they feel great and give quite the vintage sound. I bought the Guild used but in mint condition and the fellow I bought it from had put the GHS flat on it, so I have no direct experience with rounds on the Guild. From the GHS package you hold up on the video, I didn't see "Short Scale" printed on it. Can you tell us the exact model of GHS strings you are using? Thanks, Jim

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on! Thanks for the video suggestion and for watching!
      The front of the package of these GHS flats says: 3020 Set 32.75” wind. Says ‘short scale’ on the back.
      For reference, on the back of the package, they’ve stated that the same gauge in long scale is model 3025 light (45-95) with a wind length of 38”.

    • @user-gr9cb3sh7o
      @user-gr9cb3sh7o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458music Thanks ! This is helpful.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure!

  • @daevien
    @daevien 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's been a long time since I used GHS strings but now I"m debating putting a set on my P bass that is scheduled for defretting. Thanks for the video
    You are bad for my wallet ;)

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching! Sorry to the wallet:). These GHS precision flats are roughly half the price of the Thomastiks and sound more old school than the TIs. They have a nice round fundamental note and do not feel overly tight under the fingers. I quite like how it sounds on my green precision. Buy once and leave them on until they break!

    • @daevien
      @daevien 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458music Yeah, I like how they sound on the P bass. My P is just a cheap Harley Benton I intend to defret soon, so didn't really want to pay for TI or Labella on it til I see how it turns out after all the mods. It had piccolo bass strings on it until the other day when I started stripping it down heh.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good luck with the mod!

    • @daevien
      @daevien 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458music Ripped out the frets yesterday, minimal fretboard damage, I've definitely seen people take more chunks out heh. Debating a pickup change as well, though I suppose I should finish it and see how the Musiclily P bass one sounds first :p

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daevien Very cool. Last time I defretted a bass was ~2006. Did 2 or 3 and decided that a luthier/tech is waaaaay better at it then me!

  • @dynodansmoking
    @dynodansmoking 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked. I bet they would sound great on a Danelectro shorty

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For sure! I’ll be great on a dano. Throw some foam in there and it’ll be awesome.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @StevenDoyleLuke
      @StevenDoyleLuke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      La Bella makes a specific Flat for Danos

    • @dynodansmoking
      @dynodansmoking 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StevenDoyleLuke really what do they call them?

    • @StevenDoyleLuke
      @StevenDoyleLuke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dynodansmoking La Bella 760-FD Danelectro Stainless Steel Flat Wound Strings (42-83)

    • @dynodansmoking
      @dynodansmoking 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@StevenDoyleLuke thanks

  • @user-gr9cb3sh7o
    @user-gr9cb3sh7o หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jonathan. Granted, La Bella flats are a little more stiff (in my judgment at least) than these GHS flats. But can you attempt to describe - all other things being equal - what might be the difference TONALLY between La Bella flatwounds and GHS flatwounds? The question, as you can see, has nothing to do with the G&L Fallout bass. Thanks again, bro. -- Jim

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good question. I have Labella deep talkin’ flats on my Hofner club and recently had them on a Mini P for that mod series.
      My opinion: I find the initial attack of the note on the Labella to be more immediate and pointier compared to the GHS. The GHS’s attack seems to be slightly slower and bloomier. From this, it gives the impression that the labellas sound a little thumpier. There’s probably a bit more dynamic range too. You can get a different tone/sound from the labellas if you give them a strong pluck vs a softer pizz. Whereas I find the GHS to have less variation in available tones. With that in mind, I find the GHS to be easier to play evenly on, given the slightly smaller dynamic range.
      In terms of feel, they are worlds apart and I much prefer the light gauge of the GHS over the Labellas, in terms of feel.
      Hope this is the description you were hoping for!
      Thanks for asking and for watching!

    • @user-gr9cb3sh7o
      @user-gr9cb3sh7o หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458music Thanks. This is helpful. Your description is both nuanced and articulate.... you put into words very well what I have been hearing from my own basses, so I would agree with your description of the tonal difference between La Bellas and GHSs. I have La Bella deep talkin' flats on my Hofner Icon bass, and GHS flats on my Guild Starfire 1 bass. I also still have (and in utterly mint condition) the 1966 Harmony H-22 hollow-body bass my parents gave me for Christmas that year when I was an emerging adolescent wanting to play bass after much listening to Rick Huxley of the Dave Clark 5. Put Fender long-scale flats on it 21 years ago - they feel & sound great and I have no intention to change them soon. Talk about deep thump, it's got it. Still have the original chipboard case it came in, too.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s so awesome. What a memory! (Re bass from your parents)

  • @gamingwithmrgvil3511
    @gamingwithmrgvil3511 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you swapped the pickup what would you replace it with?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a great question. The G&L pickup measures ~ 3.6"x1.6" so it's not a standard shell size - but the so-called "EMG 35" shell size would fit inside with a little wiggle room (3.5"x1.5").
      Seymour Duncan makes a passive soapbar in that size and Nordstrand has a bunch of offerings with different coils and pole piece layouts in that shell size too. The non-standard size is one of the factors that keeps G&L users from trying different pickups.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan
    @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    #47_JustDecided_YAM434_YupThatsTheBehs4Me_then_GanL_HaveThisKiloton_Noooooo😖🥀

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yamaha makes solid instruments. Thanks for watching!

  • @StevenDoyleLuke
    @StevenDoyleLuke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like GHS, I like Pyramid better

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m still needing to try pyramids. I’ve heard from some that the texture can be rough.
      Thx for watching!

    • @StevenDoyleLuke
      @StevenDoyleLuke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458music I had a slight ly rough set and I emailed Pyramid in Germany and they sent me a new set for free (good company)!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s awesome to hear. Customer service is king/queen!