Fallout 4 Lore - What Happened to Vault 111
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- This video covers the story of Vault 111, covering the history of the site, the story of the Sole Survivor's interactions with the site, the stories and motivations of the other personnel who interacted with the site, and some interesting things and issues with the site.
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I find it extremely sweet that TH-cam is pushing a 3 year old video of a small creator and said creator is still liking new comments that's amazing to me
The number of people complaining about a 3 year old video is wild. It’s like a whole bunch of shorts watchers discovered what a multiple minute long video is. God forbid they watch a movie sometime.
The vid’s nice, don’t let any of the nay sayers get to you, it’s your show
Agreed
I know right, its like everyone who lost the ability to watch anything that isn't a tiktok or a short just came to a random "long" video and started complaining
Yeah I hate TikTok and shorts and stuff
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It seemed like such a waste to kill all the residents in the cryo pods… like damn. Imagine sleeping for 200 years and wake up confused and scared, only to die from asphyxiation… in my opinion the Institute could have brought all the residents to Institute. Reason why is because these people are not at all affected by the cruelty and savages of the commonwealth.. these people are prewar so they are very much civilized and proper. They could have easily integrated them into their society..
Or they could put them back into cryosleep, and when they wake, the residents along with Sole Survivor can reclaim sanctuary and work together to survive in the commonwealth. Them along with the arrival of the minutemen would be beneficial to helping them survive.
I think giving the vault a GECK and starting a “vault city” would of been epic, and the vault survivors lived there, I’ve actually given all my settlers vault suits to roleplay this 😂
Good question, even Kellogg didn't know why they didn't put everyone back on ice if I remember correctly from his memory quest. As to why not bring them to the Institute, limited resources I would imagine, and not being scientists, there would be no quality return on that investment. Shaun also was not happy about the minutemen reforming, as is evident by what he says about them during the Institute quest where you retrieve a wasteland scientist.
No, the Institute committed a crime. If they didn't kill the others, the Institute could be facing a group of prewar enemies instead of a sole survival.
@@ssddsquarelmao and the sole survivor still obliterates them pretty much all on their own.
Just fyi I’ve heard that the s word is considered a slur
I've always been way more concerned with "What happened in Sanctuary Hills and what isn't Codsworth telling me?"
Same!! Over hundreds of years, someone must have settled in one of those abandoned buildings, other than the vault-tec rep who I think is the only person we know to have lived in sanctuary for a year after the bombs fell. But what else happened? There are a few scavvers and raiders north of Sanctuary, I wonder if they or their precursors made use of the neighbourhood?
I'm not quite sure but it's as if a very large explosion happened in the general area 🤔
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That's just off the top of my head too.
Could have said "People died and Codsworth let you know he was doing your wife... so was everyone else on the book."
I mean... THAT's what you brought to the table? SERIOUSLY? Go back, try again.
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This video has aged surprisingly well, especially considering the revelations of the TV show.
I imagine they shut off life support on the others to reduce the strain on the life support system and to conserve power, keeping the “back-up” alive longer than the system could if it managed them all. My guess anyways.
Makes me wonder what would happen when the nuclear reactors eventually run out of fuel.
Fission and Fusion reactions, although more energetic and efficient than a power source using combustion or other form of chemical reaction, they can't power something indefinitely.
Frankly, it's a miracle pre-war technology still works as well as it does 210 years after the bombs dropped.
I understand why there aren't many working cars in the post war world. Not many average people might be willing to go through the extra trouble to get a car running again. Although I'd argue that a truck would be a better option then those mutated cow things traders use. Trucks can carry more and with proper armor they'd provide both protection from radiation and physical violence.
@@twistedyogertIt is kinda odd seeing the combined technology of the institute and the brotherhood and yet neither has a working automobile.
how come we just take the fusion cores from every building but they just still have power lol
@@eancola6111the institute has teleportation and the BOS has vertibirds, why would any of them even consider a automobile?
@jacobmars1902 and Prydwen too. They don't need cars.
I like how you go into depth about things not directly relevant such as the neighbours and the Military
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Vault tec probably had a secondary test for what people will do when they are running out of food. Purposely assigned an overseer who is terrified of the fallout
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Your videos are so sophisticated, and heavily thought out! Absolutely amazing video. I've played through FO4 a bunch, but I had no idea the scale of the story, and background real world information about sanctuary. So cool! Thank you for the video!!
A little tidbit of info that is a common misunderstanding represented in film games and TV, is the EMP, electro magnetic pulse from a nuclear detonation.
This only happens in certain conditions. Like at 18:50 ish, it’s mentioned the EMP could have brought down the vertibird. If the Vertibird remained airborne, after the shockwave. Then it would have been fine, as there was no EMP event.
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My thought on the purpose of the Vault 111 experiment: There were at least elements in the government that wanted to research evacuating a small portion of humanity to another planet in another star system. Given that, it makes a lot of sense wanting to study the effects of stasis on the human body and mind.
Don't know is vertibird fly like helicopter or not, but in movies, helicopter often spins around uncontrollable before crash. So, the direction that vertibirds face in the game might not be the direction those aircrafts were heading.
The vertibirds are like the Osprey aircraft in the real world, they have dual propellers that swivel to allow vertical take of and landing like a helicopter, while keeping the faster flight like an airplane. You’re right though, their direction on impact doesn’t necessarily indicate their trajectory pre-detonation.
@@IrresoluteCartographer Most likely the pilots would attempt to glide as if the Vertibird were a plane after the engines failed.
The detonation probably temporarily blinded the flight crew and they were unable to see where they were going as the doomed craft quickly lost altitude.
Plus the blast wave would be too much turbulence, don't think a glide would work. That amount of force would just throw that thing like a rock.
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Also: The US Army tested the Viability of Nuclear-Ready Infantry. As in, Infantry, moving into the Blast Zone in the immediate aftermath of a Nuclear Bomb. Sort-Of.
Operation Buster-Jangle.
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As for the experiment the enclave eventually wanted to go into space maybe they were using vault 111 to see if they could keep their people in suspended animation with no long term effects but the events of fallout 2 ended those plans
You don't think Todd or anyone at Bethesda knows that do you? I would be suprized if he had ever played 1 or 2 at most he might have read a wiki
This is exactly the intention of Vault 111. The enclave was running experiments to help them get humans to another planet. The intention was to study a plethora of things such as social pressures, types of governments, cryo-preservation vs natural procreation vs unnatural procreation, the terraforming of other planets (Via Gecks), etc. Every experiment served some goal to determine how to get humans to another planet as we had ransacked ours in the fallout timeline.
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It should have been an option to make it your base of operations in fallout 4, thats without having to make it a mod
A second vault tec workshop would have been great there.
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Don’t worry, still have a dozen or so 76 lore videos to go before the material to make new lore videos becomes scarce, I’m just starting to branch into the others as that time approaches.
@@IrresoluteCartographer not complaining dude, it's a welcome mix.. Fallout lore is Fallout lore 😉
@@IrresoluteCartographer the mention of the premises for cryogenic freezing of vault test subjects might be linked to other vaults that mention space travel to other planets
I think the Enclave space colonization thing was an idea from Van Buren, the unpublished Fallout 3 from Obsidian. What I’m wondering here is more why they had to be unaware of the freezing before it happened. The only thing I really could guess was that the anxiety from knowing you’re about to be frozen would adversely affect your chances of surviving it, but that’s purely guess work.
@@IrresoluteCartographer not an unreasonable assumption.. such an experiment would no doubts require subjects in a normal/reasonable state of relaxed and without elevated levels of adrenaline that affects heart rate and blood pressure...
The show vault in the NukaWorld galactic zone mentions space colonisation and using vaults on alien worlds...
Also, I think (I could be wrong here, it's been a long time) that the show vault in the capital in Fallout3 mentions similar
Nice explanation I learned a lot
17:27 I noticed some barrels laying near the APC so I'm willing to guess that the vehicle was being used to transport whatever was in those barrels.
Perhaps the flash from the nuke temporarily disoriented the driver and he lost control and crashed, or perhaps he saw the detonation in the rear view mirror and floored it to get away and he crashed from going too fast.
The crash ruptured the barrels and the driver was poisoned from whatever was in them or he did escape from the wrecked APC but was seriously injured and in shock and eventually succumbed to his injuries.
Great vid
Yeah in regards to getting a version of the map, I agree and always take the fast travel game time that passes as the true time it takes to get there
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30:13 Thanks for putting that into my head.
In the fallout survival guide has direct evidence to the fact that the bombs are lower powered (200-750kt) but produce more fallout.
I have started many new games on fallout 4 (never finished any), and have never once noticed the potential connection between the missing security officer and Nordeghan Beach! 😮
Here's my thought on why the Sole Survivor was spared while everyone else was let go. We know that the Institute was researching human augmentation. Given the fact that either Nate or Nora can take down a Courser, by themselves, suggests that they are not entirely human. Perhaps they were both subject to a Steve Rogers serum?
... I had so much fun with the synth theory. Too bad it's not true.
Your theory would work for nate but why nora? Then again without some kind of help how did a lawyer have all these combat skills...lol.
@@waitwhat1029 Fore Nora, I direct you to all of Fudgemuppets backgrounds for the female builds they have. Sure they are not canon to Bethesda's narrative but who knows? :)
@@loka7783 ... With bethesda sometimes we have to go out of canon just to make anything make sense. Lol. Amazingly detailed and complex open worlds? Yup. A cohesive story that makes sense...not so much. Bless their hearts.
I wonder how much closer to scale the map is when considered in comparison to the movement of time.
I think the experiment was designed to provide info that would be used for long term space travel.
While that would make sense, as far as I know the Enclave space travel story never made it into a game. Though Tim Cain had that in mind, it has never made an appearance in a Fallout game, and thus is not canonical.
@@IrresoluteCartographer yet.
Awsome video hey can you make a surveyer video about the rochound and posiblly mount blair
I’m working on that now, it’ll come out in about a week or so.
@@IrresoluteCartographer awsome cant wait
I wonder why the scientist you took the Pip-Boy from was missing an arm.
Was his arm blown off from being shot?
I assume twisted, maybe broken by security
Killing all the survivng vault dwellers was a wierd writing choice. Plenty of viable dna wasted
Well what else do you expect from the institute. Them to have a brain let alone forsight.
I love new Fallout 4 videos!
Are you considering reviewing this video with the information from the Fallout series?
I’ll have to rewatch this one to see which elements would need amending, but if there are things that need to be addressed, I will.
This was neat!
I feel like they wanted whatever was left to keep the backup alive longer instead of running out of whatever life support they had left keeping everyone alive.
Definitely a possible reason
One of those pointless things I have always wondered is why they built a complex lift system when it's already on a hill? Why not just have a gated tunnel leading to the vault door like in most other vaults?
W video that’s crazy that I got suggested now
I wish one thing that was added was Nate questioning why the military was deployed so quickly. Him being a decorated veteran, you’d think he would be suspicious but I guess nuclear war doesn’t really give you much time to ask questions lol
15hrs ago, weird
@@Walrus-fg8ch Dont worry about me. I’ve been holed up in some irradiated dive bar with raiders swarming outside. I think I’ll be ok…
30:05 Classic Vault-Tec. Style over safety, they also probably knew what the Vault was going to do and saw no point to adding a better entrance.
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I always figured the vertibird that crashed into the museum was the one outside Vault 111 on the day the bombs fell. They could have had a stopover at Vault 111 en route, transferring essential personnel.
Who woulda thought a video game recreation of a historical site wouldn't be accurate....
IRL, everyone on the elevator would have been cooked to a crisp before it even began moving.
The cool thing about FO4 is that, even after many playthroughs I still discover new things. For example, I never noticed the security baton on the crate before. It really doesn't matter because radroaches are a one punch deal anyway. I don't think I found the Red Menace holotape until my third time.
I never waste the ammo on the roaches.
As for the fallout issue, it really all depends on the nature of the bomb's construction as to what specific isotopes will be in the fallout. If the bomb we see going off near Vault 111 was a ground burst, then you might not have got cooked while standing on the Vault 111 elevator, waiting for it to move. They would likely not have been in line of sight of the nucleus of the blast which would have blocked the infrared burst which could have instantly cooked them to char. It is likely the massive crater to the south was once a major strategic installation that was heavily fortified, where a ground burst would be appropriate. The existence of a nuclear weapons stockpile there could explain the Glowing Sea. They might destroy the bunker but not cause all the nuclear material stored there to go critical.
4:43
You’re telling me the Vault Tec Representative survived that with his Brain Cognition intact? 😂
Sucks for the Sumners, the Donoghues, and those other 2 Families.
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So my theory on why they kill the other 111 dwellers is that since the Vault wasn't necessarily intended to run for 200+ years, they realized it was running out of cryo-fuel or w/e, and didn't have enough to keep the other residents supported indefinitely, so they axed them to make sure the Sole Survivor would be kept alive until they potentially needed them.
One of the more plausible theories.
I like to subscribe to the theory of section A being a seperate facility like what happens in the America Rising mod. It makes more sense to have a secret section of the facility specifically for VIPs under the same cryostasis conditions hidden away and managed by the government directly.
That's an interesting concept, I wonder if we'll see anything come of that
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I think vault 111 has the coolest entrance of all of them.
Definitely one of the more unique and cool looking ones.
That guy who waved the contract was kinda stupid.
He was staring down the barrel of a 10mm pistol held by guards who had just shot up the place and killed the overseer and the other scientists. Those guards weren't interested in taking prisoners.
I think the Institute needed a new source of DNA, not because of radiation, but because of inbreeding over the course of 140 years -- because if the Institute shelter wasn't good enough to protect from radiation, why would a Vaultec Vault be any better? Also, the residents of vault 81 would have been as protected as the residents of vault 111 - but they would have suffered from the same inbreeding problem as the Institute -- so they didn't go that route...
It's also interesting to know that the scientist had no problem deceiving the townsfolk. But, when they believed that the overseer was deceiving them, then they turned against the overseer. Hypocrisy is something that plagues us all. It's okay when someone lies to someone, but when someone else lies to them, they get angry. Major LOL!
The entire vault staff did lie to the vault dwellers, but the science team and the overseer were aligned. The overseer lied to the support and Security staffs not to the science team.
@IrresoluteCartographer They still lied to each other and were morally defiant when they figured it out. One wrong doesn't make something right. If I lied to you and then you lied to me? Justice isn't served. Because neither one of us can trust each other. We have only solidified the evil. But, if I lied to you, and when confronted? I apologize, and except the punishment for the lie, a trust can be reestablished. Evil has never truly fixed evil.
It's odd that the soldiers that were protecting the vault didn't enter the vault. They calmly died with the rest. It's funny that no matter how much a writer thinks things through, there are so many holes in the stories. In video games, the holes can exist because they only have so much room before the gaming system malfunctions. The weirdest thing is that most people won't notice the holes in the stories until they re-watch it numerous times. Our brains just accept the holes the first time we see it. Major LOL!
All evidence indicates that the soldiers left the site after they did their duty and guarded the vault when it was loading on the day of the bombs. I see this as a mark of their honor that they didn’t attempt to seize the vault for themselves.
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The email address associated with the channel can be found in the channel's about section
@@IrresoluteCartographer Excellent, then you will be hearing from me soon. ^_^
Yeah with the glowijg sea, i had a theory that "We don't know what *else* was near the Sentinel Sites, so...it could have chain detonated other things.
Plus with the New Plague out and about, its possible some subsequent bombings were biological too.
I think I remember reading that there besides military infrastructure, there were also industrial zones.
Perhaps whatever power generation had reactor malfunctions.
@@twistedyogert Probably!
@VaciliNikoMavich People often point out how Chernobyl is so clean now, but that's because the Soviet and later Ukrainian governments spent years and millions of rubles cleaning up the place.
There are certain places where the clothing worn by firefighters who responded to the accident was discarded because it was covered in radioactive dust.
So imagine what would happen to an area that suffered multiple Chernobyl-level disasters but nobody was around to clean them up.
I'm not against nuclear energy, I support it if the risks are understood and respected.
@@twistedyogert It would look so disgusting, I can’t imagine…
@@twistedyogertalso something to consider, i think when Bethesda was working on this game, they probably wanted to research things about WW2. i can't confirm that part, but the fact the pre-war part feels alot like when America dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
the blast from what i understand on a scientific standpoint. that radiation spread for miles, even as far almost to Tokyo. so if you look at a map of Japan, if one bomb can cause that amount of destruction, which took them a long time to rebuild, im thinking that's what they came with up.
still Fallout has always been a true post apocalyptic world, i know some people aren't religious, but one thing we know about mankind, we can be our own worse enemy at times.
And just like with all these conflicts happening in different parts of the world, i do think some day America will have something happen to us we never think could happen. but still to use the words the world really has ended, that means that wouldn't be an ordinary explosion. on the news station just before you leave Nate and Nora leaves the house with Shaun, the news man confirmed that the bombs hit New York and Pennsylvania, so to reach all the to Boston, that means the explosion would be like a meteor hitting the planet.
with radiation like that, i can see why you have something like the glowing sea.
Fallout New Vegas has some parts that are like that to, like if you go too far into certain parts that have radiation, without a suit you wouldn't make it long. well in Fallout 4, power armor is really the only way, but it's still not safe because of radscorpians and deathclaws.
I fully intend to finish this video, i'm only 5 minutes or so in, but what i REALLY need to know is what happened to the vault-tec van outside our house?
His fate is in the video (Redford Hotel, Goodneighbor), haha oops, reacted before I finished reading it fully. Not sure where the van is. I’ll take a look when I get a chance.
Good video. Big fan of FO4 on the PS4, massively modded (of course).
Bethesda game, meaning "Why bother? The modders can fix that." Always felt this applied as much to the background / lore as to what they did, or didn't do with the game itself.
I am vaguely aware of US history, and had heard that Sanctuary Hills was sitting on what is a historical site ./national park in the real world. Thank you for the added detail.
I'd quibble that the facing of a crashed Vertibird would not necessarily have any bearing (pun unintended) on the direction it was flying beforehand. If there was a mid-air loss of control, it could have done literally anything before finally crashing - flown straight OR 'spiralled in'.. So the Verti due east of V111 could still be a contender, not that this really matters.
At least some of the US military and intel bases were specifically at a heightened state of alert before it all hit the fan, seen in their terminals and notes..
Let's be honest, there were a lot of Vault-Tec experiments that seemed downright stupid. I 've often wondered if it all came down to VT executives asking each other, 'What sick stuff will we do to people in THIS Vault?" and then randomly pulling scribbled-down ideas out of a hat. "Kittens? Psycho? Flamethrowers? I LOVE IT!!!!"
As regards the bomb detonation actually seen ingame, good job on the backtracking. Given the crater, extent of the destruction and the fallout, it must have been a biggie. But we only see that specific detonation, and then quickly go underground, so lesser follow-up blasts MIGHT have also occurred. No obvious blast zones for these, but Boston was not an insignificant city, so I expect that there wouldn't be simply one big bomb and that was all.
Thinking that Vault-Tec could have deliberately screened the V111 supervisor for certain psychological traits. Was an experiment going on INSIDE the experiment we all know about? There is zero evidence of this, but it would be completely in Vault-Tec's style.
I'd point out that "parallel" inventions and discoveries are surprisingly common throughout history. Various instances exist of groups and individuals coming up with remarkably similar ideas, with no prior contact. The Cryolater could be one of those things, or it could be as simple as both inventors, just happening to read the same source at some stage. Maybe the Cryolater was first seen as a villain weapon in an 'Unstoppables' comic book? Purely hypothetical, but it'd make sense.
And yeah, the Institute's deliberate extermination / mass murder of everyone else in Vault 111 makes no sense at all , except as an in-story illustration of how they operate. We see that again and again - University Point, the FEV Lab, etcetera. Some people go on about how the Institute is the "best" faction, but their tech is the only reason to go with them. Leading to another gripe - whether the Institute, or the BOS or the Railroad, you can rise to high rank / influence in any of these, but cannot do a damn thing about how they take care of business. I feel like trying to steer them onto different paths could have been an very interesting aspect of the overall game, but no. My own head-canon prefers destroying the Institute, with an EVENTUAL Minutemen-Railroad alliance, but that's just me. :)
Btw, I do like that you used a greening mod for your game. That aspect of FO lore never made any sense to me - nature is incredibly resilient, and we only have to look at Chernobyl to understand what would eventually happen in time, with even severely contaminated areas.
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There are some holes in this documentary. The scientist at the exist, with the pipboy, probably didn't close the door after the other staff left. His arm is severed from his body, and he probably bled to death. The other staff used his pipboy and left him to die. Also, the vault automatically closes after the survivor leaves the vault. So, even this commentator misses numerous little details.
Just checked this, the door does not close behind you. The elevator does, but that’s because it rises to closed as a part of the process of its operation.
The skeletal arm of the scientist is lying right next to his body as though it was still attached when there was flesh there. I contend that they broke his arm when forcing him to open the door.
@IrresoluteCartographer Well, the arm is separated from the body. Every other skeleton in the game shows that they are complete until you move the skeletons. The evidence points to the idea that the people cut his arm off and used the pipboy, then threw the arm and pipboy on the floor. Also, the arm with the pipboy doesn't look like the whole forearm. It looks shorter. It's possible that the scientist hit the button before bleeding to death, closing the door? But considering the horror within all of the stories, Bethesda wanted this to be just as dark. I also forgot that the door leading to the elevator doesn't close automatically. The door at the top of the elevator does. But not the door at the bottom. That is my mistake. Either way? It's just fiction. It never happened. Human beings have limits, and the stories will have limits and holes in them as well. You can still learn something from the moral dilemmas in the story. I learned that my memory isn't perfect. But, the severed arm left a strong impression on me that I was able to remember those details.
What happened to the soldiers in power armor in front of the vault?
I believe the course of events was this:
1. Bomb comes down, elevator descends carrying the last of the dwellers (player family included).
2. In a panic, civilians storm the gate and are gunned down by the soldiers.
3. Soldier evacuate while the elevator returns to the surface.
4. New group of civilians push past the now unguarded gate where they confront vault security preparing to descend.
5. Vault security team kill this second group and descend into the vault before the nuclear fallout arrives.
@@IrresoluteCartographer ok
Maybe Kellogg closed and lock it before telaporting back out you see them walking away from the pod before going back under. Just a theory
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Welp I’m down the fallout rabbit hole since playing again 😂
Same
Theres 2 different craters inside boston what makes judging where the bomb went off so hard.
The location of the blast in the intro section appears to be the creator of the crater of atom, just based on where it is in the horizon.
I thought the warhead landed in the Glowing Sea.
the direction that a crashed aircraft is pointing has little to do with
the direction of travel before the crash.
have you even played the game what does a vertebrae do right before it crashes ?
There's a trail of debris behind the crash at USAF Station Olivia. The direction it was traveling is clear; it didn't crash like the BoS Vertibirds do when shot down. It's very likely the case that the BoS Vertibirds crash as they do because it's the simplest way to depict such an event.
@@IrresoluteCartographer No the simplest way to depict a vertibird crash would be for it to disappear in the distance and explode
it is 1:10 in the morning but i am too interested
You're mistaken about the experiment. Vaults weren't used to test technologies like cryonics; that tech was already well developed and in use elsewhere. The experiment wasn't being run on the vault dwellers at all, it was being run on the _staff._ They were shut into a vault, split into tribes (security vs scientists), and given only enough food for 180 days. They were told to expect an All Clear that was never going to come, and they were told to stay in the vault as their food ran out.
And there was a whole load of frozen meat sitting in the vault, just waiting for them.
The experiment had nothing to do with "long-term effects of suspended animation". The experiment was "How long will it take for people to resort to cannibalism?"
Your suggestion is a possibility, but I don’t think it’s correct.
First, the stated experiment wasn’t simply in cryonics, but the long-term freezing of unaware subjects. It wasn’t a test of freezing, but on the mental state of the frozen.
As for the all clear, I believe that Vault-Tec was expecting to exert more control over their vaults in the aftermath of the bombs, and the All-Clear never came because it couldn’t.
As for the splitting of the staff, that wasn’t a choice made by Vault-Tec, but by the staff themselves. Other than the overseer they all shared living quarters.
If it was an experiment in testing how long it would take to descend into cannibalism, the vault door would have been sealed to prevent the exit the staff eventually took.
@@IrresoluteCartographer Testing the effects of long-term storage is very different from every other vault experiment we know of. In nearly every case, vault experiments were about testing the behaviour of human societies in various scenarios. Will vault dwellers sacrifice one of their number each year? What happens when you have radical, diverse ideologies forced to interact? Society based on gambling. Arbitrary divisions between red and blue. Only one terrible comedian for entertainment. Etc.
You don't need a vault to test the effects of long-term cryonics; that's an experiment better conducted in a lab with "volunteers", something we know various corporations did in the pre-war period. Designing the vault to only be habitable for the scientists for 180 days prevents that experiment from even being run properly; it makes no sense.
The equipment in the vault was supposed to be monitored remotely, which gave them some trouble early on as errant signals were effecting some of the pods. The initial 180 days was to get the unaware subjects into the pods, to allow the staff to survive the period with deadly fallout, and to make sure the equipment got past the first few months without issue. Vaults with social experiments are generally far more obvious, as with your given examples. I would be more inclined to agree with you if the vault door could not be opened after it closed. The fact that they had 180 days of food, and were able to leave after it ran out doesn’t match your cannibalism scenario. I’d even be more inclined to agree with the idea that the experiment would be to investigate how long until hunger caused a revolt, but even then they could have done that experiment far more cheaply than the cost of freezing an entire neighborhood for centuries.
@@IrresoluteCartographer Then there would be no reason to have a science staff there at all, and there would be a much larger food supply. Any way you slice it, the cryonics experiment doesn't make sense.
@Werrf1 the science team was allowed to run experiments on the inmates of the pods so long as they didn’t interrupt the overall experiment. It would probably make more sense for the vault to have been occupied by only security and maintenance. That said, I think we’re going to disagree about the purpose of the vault.
I've always assumed the reason The Institute only kept the player character alive in the vault was that all of the remaining resources could then be dedicated to you, instead of splitting it among several survivors... keeping the player alive and viable for longer.
This answer makes the most sense to me
The vault would have most likely become inhabited by raiders, or depending if settlements are cannon settlers could have used it.
you’re welcome.
Here's some food for a thought vault tech built not just vault 111 but sanctuary hills think about it look just how close it is to the vault
It's definitely possible, but I think that if they did they would have slapped their logo on the Sanctuary Hills sign. They were very big on brand recognition.
The scary answer to "Why did they leave you alive?" Is that they didn't you are a synth with the implanted memories of Shaun's parent.
Ye there is a random event where you meet yourself, if you attack the body has no synth component
I’ve not heard of this random encounter. If it’s real, it pretty much puts to bed the question of whether or not the player character is a synth. The fact that it’s never cited in the argument makes me believe that the encounter you’re talking about is from a mod.
@@IrresoluteCartographer I personally only mentioned it as I literally just completed Far Harbor for the first time (I have got back into Fallout 4 after just not enjoying it when it came out) and the conversations with DiMA. This made me think, what if I am a synth?
You didnt thank codsworth for the cofee :P
If someone gave me 210 year old irradiated coffee I don't think I'd be happy enough to say "thank you".
More like: *"Are you sure this stuff won't kill me?"*
My apologies but I’d like to remind you there is a third bird crashed in a lake. It has a set of power armor with it. Which may be your bird.
That one is just northeast of Lexington. It’s possible that it’s related, but it would take them closer to Boston and its impact sites, rather than toward safety.
Well i guess i have to sub now
I think it’s a bit odd that the real-life experiment testing starvation considered 1570 calories to be near starvation. To lose weight, I ate around 1200 calories for 3 months, and sure, I was hungry, but I would not consider what I experienced to be anywhere near starvation.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that people burned more calories on a daily basis at that time. Far fewer technological conveniences to take the elbow grease out of work.
@@IrresoluteCartographer I completely agree, people definitely burned more calories per day back then, however, I don’t exactly live an ordinary lifestyle. I do weight training for 2 hours a day, and run 10-15 miles per day, and I was still able to actually put on muscle during this diet. My opinion holds no weight at all, but in it I would consider starvation to be eating so few calories that it actually affects mental processes, mainly due to the fact that the brain uses the most calories of anything in the body.
I that’s an impressive regimen. I don’t know what your situation was exactly when you were looking to lose weight, but I’d bet that the participants of the study were, if anything, underweight by todays standards. Keep in mind that this took place after the Great Depression, and during war rationing.
Edit(addition): what I mean is that they didn’t probably have much of a fat reserve to draw from while in a deficit.
@@IrresoluteCartographer that’s a good point, I don’t know if I would have entered a state of starvation after losing the weight that I wanted to.
My guy took his wife’s ring put it around his neck then went home and broke the flooring under his bed grabbed his plate carrier and an old friend then went hunting for his wife’s killer
What about the brotherhood founded in Appalachia, You know..Taggerty's thunder at Fort Defiance, we know at least one survived
Initiate Vernon Dodge survived the Scorching because he was kidnapped, but what does that have to do with Vault 111?
I mean... really the PC was let out about 10 years later... it was just all the side quests...
Given the institute has power issues and they have patched into power sources above ground they probably cut the other pods so they would have more to draw on. Also just in case a generator failed only powering one pod would increase the odds of Nate/Nora surviving in case they needed them.
And to this day no one can explain why we hear a shell casing hit the floor after Kellogg fires his revolver (sarcasm)
Surprised you couldn’t design your own synth follower if you join the institute, just like the player character creation and their voice
That would be a pretty cool feature
@@IrresoluteCartographer Bethesda sign me up
very good acessement...
@26:46 -- Nuclear winter? No; they would be ready to leave shelters due to reduced fallout/ambient radiation. Nuclear winter is a different concept; where the sky goes dark because of all the soot, creating an anti-greenhouse or snowball Earth. Nuclear winter has to do with changing the albedo of Earth, not radioactive decay. See also -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter#General
We know from accounts from Zion Canyon and Appalachia that the winter of 2077-2078 was one of the coldest on record, likely thanks to the nuclear war. I was simply making reference to that.
wtf why do I only get like 15 FPS.. but I get 30-70 in skyrim... I need a new PC.. Damn you HP!!!
yes,
I like to think Nordhagen is the Vault tec rep. Lol
I wish we could tie up that loose end, but I think his name would have been on the list if he was Nordhagen, haha
@@IrresoluteCartographer the vault tec rep loose end is actually cleared tho, he can be found at hotel rexford in goodneighbor
Indeed, this was simply talking about the missing member of the science team known as Nordhagen
@@IrresoluteCartographer I know, I was just saying that if you were referring to the rep.
Wait the cryolater is specifically the overseer creation.
Why the fuck was he a scientist? Dude should have been a weapon smith. Might not be the most powerful of weapons but it’s trustworthy