Should somebody bereft of any intelligence like you be listened to at all? First fix your failed life. Then educate yourself before ever making any remark. It’s not a good look for you.😂
Yeah, I really agree I want to do NOTHING about crop failures, droughts and floods and I want to raise taxe on working class people. Yeah! And if people's babies are dying in Guatemala because of crop failure and they try to come here, let's kidnap more of their babies. Let's seperate little children from their mothers for the crime of wanting their children to live and not be raped by drug cartels. While we are at it, let's support the NRA and sell more guns to the drug cartels so that they can kill more of their countrymen and women! Whoo Ya! Vote Republican. Vote for Zero compassion, Zero 'Give me your tired and poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" Fuck the Statue of Liberty. Who need 'Sweet Land of Liberty" It's like football. Let's lose the game and then scream that we want to change the rules after our team loses. Let's destroy football AND Democracy. Who needs it? Chaos and violence and instability is so MUCH BETTER> Vote Republican! Yay!
Jd Vance is a joke he’s all talk he doesn’t have any plan to fix supply chain or health care cost and creating more jobs. He has ZERO POLTICAL experience and bashed trump. How could he be any worse??? You’re really misinformed to vote for him but go ahead vote against yourself if you choose so.
@@ohi8ofan A Politician with experience???? You mean like Nutty Nancy and her terrific luck in the stock market?? Or maybe you mean Potato with his '0' accomplishments since 1973?? 12yrs is plenty!!
JD never answered the first question about what HE would do to help the single mother with the economy. He whine about Democrats but never answered the question. JD never answered how he would raise teachers pay. He talked about himself but again never answered the question.
@@daysrcdays how about we prevent the single mother debacle by educating students on not having sex until they are old enough to take on the responsibility of having children, and why would Ohioans fund an obviously Marxist teachers union that has every intent on indoctrinating our children in what is being called woke ideology.
So I'm from California, I'm a (moderate) Democrat and I'm here to say Tim Ryan got obliterated in this debate. JD Vance was sharp, informed, and on point. Even if what he said were lies they came off great. Ryan looked bored, he looked annoyed, he was out of touch and couldn't answer most of the questions Vance shot back at him. IMO JD Vance will be the next Senator from Ohio.
JD Vance obliterated Tim Ryan with the truth! Democrat politicians are evil and "FULL" of lies. It's too bad Democrat voters are so gullible. I'm an immigrant minority and as an immigrant, we don't trust government, so we do thorough researches to find out the lesser of two evils, Democrat or Republican. Come to find out, Democrat and many Republican politicians are actually on the same team, trying to invoke their evil agenda. Conservative is the best way to go for immigrants....because we've lived under tyrannical govt, we know what they look and sound like and we don't want to live under tyranny anymore. That's why we have left our original countries.
You write "Even if what he [Vance] said were lies they came off great." I'll admit I didn't watch this debate. But unless the target audience is a bunch of ignoramuses, how could anybody lying in a debate come across as "great"?
Tim Ryan doesn't debate like a 20 year politician, he repeats talking points, offered very little substance and had no counters for the solid claims by Vance. I think that generational change in politics Mr Ryan desires should begin with him. ✌🏾
That's what fake cookie cutter politicians really are the same old thing of the same old thing not working for the people working for themselves working for the political Elites working for the retarded politicians that keep doing the same shit not getting different results but coming up with more retarded shit to add in the mix if we don't start voting different and voting like Freedom fucking depended on it then we would definitely be selling ourselves short this guy Tim Ryan cares more about the look of his hair then fighting China I don't believe anything that he says because he admitted liking Nancy Pelosi first of all why would you like a person that doesn't even care about the mentally ill people within her District would rather than live on the street then to give them shelter that's not the work of someone that is religious look what's happened to Columbus that's pathetic in itself during a plandemic it is not a pandemic they had a plan for this this guy's got nothing but excuses and excuses are like assholes and they all smell bad I'm just being real with it look regardless where we stand on the political sphere you can watch this debate and you can tell that this guy's full of shit
I suppose Youngstown was better with Traficant. Ryan was one of his aides. Youngstown hasn't done well since the inept late Charles J Carney was elected.
Joshua that’s exactly what I’m saying. Tim has represented that town for twenty years now. If you can’t get the city better in that long of a time then what makes anyone think he’ll do better with the whole state?
Nope. Not easy. Not all of Biden's decisions have been right. In the end, yes, Ryan is the better candidate, no doubt. But just because you say he always agrees with the President (and I'm not sure that's true), that doesn't automatically make him the right choice. Only experience and honesty can do that.
@@nychellebrewer I believe he was saying Tim Ryan was the wrong choice. It's pretty clear anybody that votes with Biden 100% of the time is awful for America.
@@30rdmaga Obviously, anyone who votes with anyone on anything 100% is not an independent thinker. But Joe Biden doesn't actually vote on legislation--he just has the veto. Nancy Pelosi is the Democratic Speaker of the House. And she's the person Tim Ryan's trying to replace, right? (Also, you seem to be misgendering the OP. Yougene is traditionally a female name in Singaporean culture.)
I’ve read comments on Tim Ryan’s FB for years and he is an EXTREME progressive! I wasn’t sure about JD Vance until this debate! Good job Vance, I really think you’re the right man for the job!
I generally agree with most of Ryan's stated views but I'll be voting Vance. Tim Ryan was a sponsor of SEL in schools, which is Maoist struggle sessions to recruit children from Pre-K to teens and beyond for Cultural Revolution. We don't need to be lining up kids in order of them being oppressors and victims, based on racial identity and if they have a father at home, or based on some actions of someone's ancestors who the child roughly resembles. I'm also for Equal Rights for everyone, including LGB and also T are entitled to rights and so are former T who try to convert back. The problem with T is they go far beyond demanding equality and Liberty. T wants obedience and celebration by everyone else .. or else expect punishment. Q? No! Q is an ideology of intentional destabilization of everything in society, including but not limited to gender and public celebration of fetishes. That is outright treason, aiming for Maoist Revolution. Neo Marxists oppose equal rights and oppose basic liberalism. They want Rights to vary on a scale of intersectionality, based not on evidence, determinations by woke commissars deciding who gets extra points or extra discounts, based on determinations of the relevant identity groups and on a scale of social oppression, both current and historical, both real and imaginary-subjective.
The debate question to Vance "you have said as far back as July you believe we are already in a recession.." Yes we are factually by definition of the word in a recession. It isnt some radical opinion.
Joe Biden Bringing jobs to America not China and building more Green Energy sectors in Electric Cars sector after the United States is switch over in 60 percent in Electric vehicles we Americans will be saying how come we didn't do this 50 yrs ago in long run of climate change disaster costs we will realize we can spend Trillions on climate change disaster or spend Trillions in our children future
@@hyperionsf3220 lmao in a shutdown oil n gas fracking companies going bankrupt in 2019 48 billion in loses n big oil losing 240 billion if Americans had to eat them loses our cheep gas would been 8 bucs a gallon and how many Barrels of oil did the Deal maker buy when it was selling at a negative per barrel not one Drop of oilcwas purchased n Our inflation started with Teriffs on China n China forecast was 3 yrs b4 they are fully back to normal distribution to world economy
Tim Ryan was destroyed in this debate. It’s amazing to me that none of these moderators ever push Democrats on what their line is on abortion. They always get away with saying it’s up to the women and Dr to provide abortion on demand. Then claiming every pregnancy is rape and incest when it’s under 1% of abortions. Vance should ask Ryan what’s the line on the other 99% of abortions.
That’s not the principle. It’s an overreach to ban it outright, including rape situations. Anyone that wants that kind of extremist control is a Christofascist.
So dishonest. No Democrat claims every pregnancy is rape or incest. Only Trumplicans have the gall and indecency to tell extreme whoppers like that (à la "Democrats want to kill Republicans; they've already started" [Marjorie Taylor Greene], "And frankly we did win this election" [Trump, the evening OF the #2020election, WHILE EVERY STATE WAS STILL COUNTING BALLOTS], "The Left has declared war on Thanksgiving" [Charlie Kirk]). Ryan DID answer the question: he said we need to return to Roe v. Wade, either by Congress or a re-do at the Supreme Court. What more did you want? Vance, no surprise, repeated the same absurdities bloviated by forced-pregnancy pushers. There is literally no such thing as "abortion on demand." No one can demand an abortion when meddling state legislators impose a 24- to 72-hour waiting period to have an abortion after initially meeting the abortion provider. And NO ONE wakes up at 39 weeks gestation and thinks, "I feel like having an abortion today." This is lunacy. Nearly all abortions occur in the first trimester, and, no, a fetus at 12 weeks does not look exactly like an infant at birth, just smaller. This is one of many #GOPLies, and one of many Alito included in his Dobbs decision. At 12 weeks, the fetus's skin is translucent and its body is blobby with a humungous head. Democrats oppose absolute cutoffs after which abortions cannot occur because the reality is fetuses do (start to) die post-viability (~24 weeks). Denying girls and women an abortion (including medications that cause a "chemical abortion") puts their own life in peril. Also testing could determine a fetus will be born with severe birth defects with no chance of survival. An example is anencephaly, caused by insufficient intake of the B vitamin folic acid early in pregnancy. A fetus with anencephaly has only a brain stem and will suffer greatly and die within hours of being born. Deciding to have an abortion or give birth in these circumstances is deeply personal and should be entirely private. AMERICANS ARE NOT FREE when the government forces girls and women to carry a pregnancy and endure labor and delivery against their will. This is #immoral. Forcing girls and women to carry their rapist's spawn throughout pregnancy, labor, and delivery without their consent is not only immoral. It's literally #torture.
The fake non-profit was called Our Ohio Renewal, which raised 221k and gave most of it to administrative costs and promoted a Purdue Pharma Doctor. Tim Ryan did accept 27k over the last 12 years from three drug companies, but he also voted against them to lower drug prices.
AZ Dem Katie Hobbs won't debate Kari Lake at all. Dem John Fetter only has 1 scheduled debate vs Dr. Oz (better than even chance Fetterman opts out in the last minute...). Looks like the Dems general strategy, in every state, for just about every office, is to have as few debates as possible. They believe they have "homecourt advantage", thanks to the clearly pro-Democrat MSM. Dem's ideas are clearly weaker than the GOP's, so the fewer debates where GOP candidates can pummel the Dem candidates the better for the Dems.
I hope and prayer Ohio does the right thing to send the message by voting on the last day (making sure your votes are counted) for J.D. Vance. No matter what woke message came out of Ryan’s mouth, his action for the State of Ohio demonstrated nothing during his term. If you want defunding police, high crime, illegal Immigrants, drug addiction on the rise, jobs heading over seas, then vote for him. Another four years under Ryan’s watch may not reverse the damages he already did and will continue to do.
@@marybreskvar2745 What about the incident unborn rights? Let’s be clear, if a women choose not to have a baby then simply put, don’t make babies. If a women did not choose and was forced by rap, another story. If a women giving birth and both having complications is another story. But, when a women choose to have unprotected sex and gets pregnant, no longer her decision to discard an innocent unborn. If a family member, friend, or coworker was killed by another person (God Forbid) you would want that person to be put away for life or the death sentence. No different for abortion. Murder is murder. Same goes for a pregnant women that was murdered, it’s called double homicide. Two lives were taken. A women can protect her reproductive rights by not getting pregnant to avoid an abortion, or be responsible for another human life by having the pregnancy.
Nah, I am so sick an tired of my money going to baby mommas! Why the men never stay? Idk. Fathers these days don't care, so why should I? A mother of 6 kids? How can anyone do that on their own? If she had support to abort as soon as she found out, I would kindly drive her. Kids deserve better to be born unto a world that has no way to support them. It's sick. At 20weeks, fine the baby too big to take away, also you would know by then. If any complications, ask the mother first. It's a womans right to choose. Some of ya'll men gonna be sick to know that u forced preged ur wives and she can decide if she really wants ur kids. Take it from a woman who works with homeless families, some of these parents just can't work for themselves let alone their kids so they take the check and barely make it stretch. Smh. Also, increase the price of abortions, make it a financial burden as well. Safe & Rare. Low down dirty fathers pay child support in womb too. Lazy POS, 9 months worth of $$ for that baby to survive. Dr visits, vitamins, food, clothes etc. Being preg ain't cheap. Anything but take my $$ from my pocket becuz of lack of responsibility. No one is getting them like candy when u can just give birth and get another check. .ugh thonk ppl. These kids have to grow up and who will they likely be? Criminals, undereducated, in poverty. Just have kids you actually want, and use protection. Ain't that hard.
@@fobluv4lyfe Your voice is heard. And some valet points as well. It’s true, the system failed us for years. Sadly, it’s not going to get any better soon. As stated, you understand working with poor. I get it! I been there and did my share to contribute (Volunteered) to this crime of mess that no one should have to go through in this country. But, the reality is aborting babies isn’t the answer. No matter the circumstances, there is no justification to have an abortion. Absolutely, they’re deadbeats dads, one to too many children in a single family homes living in poverty, significant others forced to have kids, and the list goes on. Yes, with all the negative circumstances for middle, low class, and poverty individuals is a burden getting pregnant and having the child. Although the circumstances, each individual has a choice becoming pregnant. No different then a choice to live within a broken system, welfare, government assistance, or like the fake president handing out money and no one has to work for a living. No one is holding a gun to their heads. Every individual has the right to be poor or not. Every individual has the right to become pregnant or not. If an individual relying on the system and they will remain in the system. If an individual choose to have unsafe sex she will be most likely pregnant. A choice. Multiple stories of people getting out of the system and finding ways to overcoming the barriers. Yes, even a single parent with serval kids to support. The fact is the system is broken and it’s been done deliberately to keep the poor in this cycle. The fact is we’re taught to blame others for our mistakes in this cycle. And those caught in the system or born into it will blame the world for their situation. It’s a cycle that is controlled by the system -deliberately. Example are those cash stores providing loans designed for low income. Why? keep them in the system. Yet, it is a choice each individual makes. Besides making an argument for the poor or low income, too many of the haves gone through abortions. So, it’s not just the low come, but the middle and rich class having abortion. As I stated before, with the exception of rap or the difficulties during pregnancy, abortion is a selfish act. No justification having an abortion regardless how bad the world may seemed. If that baby in a mothers womb can speak, he/she would want to be born. But, for a women to decide for another human being what rights he/she has is nothing more then a selfish act. Self serving! A nation that self serves in a selfish act is a nation to collapse. No country can survive when each individual lives for his/hers self alone. We have free will to make choices. Some are good and some are not so good. But, it’s our free will that separates us from animals. We alone can make something of ourselves no matter what circumstances we’re in. Or we can continue to blame others and the system for our poor decisions in which we choose to live in. If we choose to eat bad foods expect the outcome. If we choose to do drugs, expect the outcome. If we choose to rub and steal from others, expect the outcome. If we choose to have material things first vs food on the table, expect the outcome. And if we choose to have unsafe sex, expect the outcome. Choices! Again, If in debt, who is to blame? Do I blame the credit card companies or myself for getting into debt? Do I point the figure for where I’m at in my life, and do I take responsibility and make a change from the choices I made? Same goes for those born into the system. Do I continue to live in the system and blame others, or make a CHOICE to get out and make something of myself? And for many folks, it’s been done! Over, over, and over again. Yeah, folks in a broken system willing to get out is not impossible. And those not wanting to have kids can avoid getting pregnant. It’s simple as taking responsibility! We have to stop blaming others and look in the mirror why situations are what they are. Choice!
You think this is bad you should of seen the CA Governor debate both moderators were on Newsom's d*ck. It didn't help that the Republican opponent( I don't even know his name thats how irrelevant he is) didn't have the lluevos/balls to stand up to Newsom.
Not many everyday Americans know who Peter Thiel is, but he's done more for America First Republicans and I hope some of you do a little research on Thiel. Very interesting guy who is not your typical Silicone Valley Billionaire who's a Democrat handing out money to the Ultra Left Radical Democrat Socialist. Americans owe a great debit of gratitude to him for his involvement a support of The AMERICA FIRST POLITICAL MOVEMENT!!
And that claim that the little girl would of been forced to carry the baby is all bs! As a Texan I can tell you their are exceptions for incest rape and the life of the mother. No exceptions refers the trimester of the fetus/babies development stage. Jd Vance should of also mentioned that the mother didn't want to take her daughter for an abortion here in Texas because her daughter's rapist was her boyfriend. She wanted to protect the pos not her daughter.
You can actually take a ship from Cleveland to the Atlantic via the canal system that connects the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence River…. Which leads out to the Atlantic.
@@MyNameIsJ3ffrey would that be the most efficient way to navigate a ship. When you have on both coasts multiple places well equipped to repair ships. And please do some research and tell us what is the limits on your "canals".
@@BumpyHumpyDumpy Oh no! Ryan couldn't name a company but a former President degraded Vance and groveled for his approval. Not sure I see your point here.
@@tordb Did you actually watch the clip of Trump? Also, Ryan talks about standing up to Trump and Biden…as he begged Chuck Schumer for a promotion…the only way he’s moving up politically…begging…like a dog. Ryan is clearly not much of a man, whereas JD can confront criticism.
In my opinion Tim Ryan over the last 20 years has done NOTHING for Ohio! Nothing at all... oh wait... he has sucked Ohio tax dollars with out earning them! Vote for Vance!
At least twice that I heard Rep. Ryan noted that Mr. Vance employs foreign workers in Ohio. But I didn’t hear either clarify if he was referring to legal or illegal workers. Presumably, he meant workers legally in the country or the stuff would have hit the fan. If so, what is hypocritical (as Rep. Ryan seems to imply) about someone being against illegal immigration while employing workers legally in the country? Unless I missed it, I don’t understand why Mr. Vance did not clarify this point.
I noticed that danger thing too. That's a typical tactic politicians use to mislead voters into believing something different without saying it. JD missed it and should have set that straight immediately, but missed that pitch completely!!
@@bryanduchane2371 Quite right! As you probably saw, it came up again in the second debate and Vance set the record straight this time. As you alluded to, Ryan replied: "I didn't say illegal immigramts." Vance then replied that was your implicaiton.
@@LouRao I do not trust fact check at all. I've seen way to many times when the fact check was plenty wrong by design. Not a credible source for those who have seen them get caught trying to falsify facts
@@bryanduchane2371 I get it. And at times or many many cases your statement may be correct. Although there is no debate for Ryan’s action during his term. It’s a fact Ryan’s did nothing for the state of Ohio. From the time Ryan been in office Ohio has not gotten any better. From drug overdose, crime raising, jobs exported overseas, etc… is a clear signal Ohio needs to replace Ryan. Ohio is in a deep mess and it’s going to a lot of work to clean it up. Whereby, no one needs a fact check to see clearly what Ryan has done for the Ohio people -absolutely nothing.
Dude it does not matter whether you are gay or heterosexual, I am glad that you see through this guys bullshit. This guy is a career politician who needs to be gone.
Was totally blown away when Vance said the rape of the child would never have happened if not for weak border controls. YES, dirtbag it does happen and far too much, along with incest, and to not protect a woman's choice is beyond criminal. No way I want this stuffed suit being in charge of a woman's autonomy over her own body. For those who want to go on about Ryan talking points being repeated; How many times did I have to listen to Vance saying he has kids? SO WHAT!
@@brendendick9287 The Irony of your statement. "we are barely able to feed our selves" yet you advocate forcing woman to bear children against their will or health concerns and then say I need to check my priorities. That's choice. So how are these women going to feed, cloth, house and give medical care for these unwanted children in this "shit" economy? WHO is going to give them mental care if they are neglected or abused? YOU????You think this SOB Desantis is going to vote to pay to help them/NOT his kids? roflmao. Not to mention educating them they are looking to privatize so they ran rake in the dollars from the minute your born till you die, and from your post you may be in need of a bit more of that yourself. These LIARS on both sides aren't trying to help YOU, so if I were you I would take the best offer of the crumbs these criminals offer and it aint with the Republicans. They want to cut social security to the elderly. If you can't care about that over your own selfish agenda I will add to the list of you not caring about women and their children's quality of life, that you don't care about your parents or grandparents either.
Unlike Tim Ryan, J. D. Vance is not a corrupt career politician. Plus J. D. Vance knows that career politics is wrong. J.D. Vance is honest differently from Tim Ryan. J.D. Vance clearly won this debate and then won the election as well.
Tim Ryan was a career politician which is a bad thing. I am glad J.D. Vance defeated him in the 2022 Ohio United States Senate election. J. D. Vance righteously and rightly opposes the bad things done by Tim Ryan. I am so glad that J. D. Vance opposes same-sex marriage and abortion. I also oppose abortion and same-sex marriage. I totally oppose abortion in all circumstances and with no exceptions whatsoever including in the cases of rape, incest and the mother's life being at risk and in danger. However I disagree with J. D. Vance being ok with wanting a raped 10-year-old girl in Ohio to abort her unborn child. Even the raped 10-year-old girl in Ohio should still allow her unborn child to be born and to live peacefully on Earth because life is precious and beautiful. I praise God for Sarah Huckabee Sanders who has a 100% pro-life record against abortion, Markwayne Mullin who has the same 100% pro-life record against abortion and many other politicians like them who are also 100% pro-life and against abortion for being able to be involved in politics. Praise God for that 100%.
One of the elementary schools’ playgrounds in Youngstown literally has a concrete barricade like a prison yard to protect the children from stray bullets. That’s how much good Tim Ryan’s policies have done for his district in his 20 years. Vote JD Vance.
Can't believe that women can kill a baby but I also can't believe that we don't know what a woman is maybe it's the food we eat or the drinks we drink but something is wrong with us we're losing our morals
Welcome aboard. I'm a gay male here in Ohio and will NEVER vote for a Democrat. THEY have tried to buy my community for years and we are beginning to wake up!!!
He literally got proven, factually, that he lied 4 times in two questions. The first 8 minutes he lied 4 times and that was proven with citation. Why don’t you care about that? Lmao
Tim Ryan hates J.D. Vance so much that he used profanity hatefully against him. I am sick and tired of people who are so foul mouthed. People are so mean and awful nowadays. This needs to stop. Straight up! Foul mouthed people need to calm the heck down and they need to chill.
I'm an independent and this debate definitely goes to Tim Ryan. People are tired of the extremism from republicans and don't think that rape victims should be forced to give birth to unwanted babies.
@@Thirthton As opposed to who, the police so they can show up an hour later, take my statement and then never talk to me again? Hell, if I gave a crackhead a few bucks they'd probably go make something happen at least.
@@Thirthton That's quite the intelligent response to my argument. Forgive me if I recuse myself from further interaction with such an intellectual heavyweight.
I'd really like to vote for Vance, but his stance on qualified immunity needs work. I agree some level of QI is needed, but the way it works now is absurd. It requires clear precedent in the courts of wrong doing. Due to a significant lack of precedent, government workers can basically violate your rights all they want. That means even if everyone would identify it as wrong, if there's no precedent, they still get immunity, not what they deserve, which is a fair trial. As it currently stands, this is hurting law enforcement. It allows the bad police to commit egregious rights violations, ruins the image of the police, including the good ones. Over time the bad apples even ruin some of the good ones too. We need legislation to change qualified immunity, and encode it in law, but with a proper overhaul and more restrictions along the way not a blanket "get out of jail free" regardless of how bad the rights violation was. This doesn't even get into the mess that is civil asset forfeiture. We need criminal asset forfeiture, not civil. All civil asset forfeiture does is allow authoritarian governments to legally steal your money and things, all while making you fight a court battle to regain it, often more than the value of your property. I'd hope whomever is elected, they push for laws to make civil asset forfeiture illegal. It's literally legalized highway robbery.
I am so sorry Tim, nothing personal, but I can’t trust you to help this state. You have represented the same districts for decades now and Y-Town is so horrible I won’t even drive through it anymore. If you truely cared you would have done something for that area. Unless that city isn’t as important as say howland. Tim you have voted with Democrats and for the worst bills that are killing us regular people out here!! I know ALL of you reps get paid millions for saying or not saying certain things but your cities are hurting bad. So Tim you can say you will do this and do that but how can anyone trust what you say, seriously? Why all of a sudden do you care now? Cause you want to win? You wanted to defund the cops, in Youngstown, are you nuts? When is the last time you drove through the area you represent? See I think it should be a law you reps should have to live in the area you represent, maybe you’ll start caring then huh? To be honest I trust either one of you. You both just do what other reps or whoever tell you to do so how can anyone trust or believe either one of you? I’m sorry Tim like I said nothing personal, because I know you from way back in the day when you first started politics and I do believe you are a good man but honestly you have had twenty years to get it right and,, well,, you suck at your job. So I can’t believe your going to do better because you will be a senator now. I’m sorry but I’m just being honest. Please stop putting your children in your commercials. I know what your trying to do and it’s not working. Just because we see your kids does not mean we will all of a sudden vote for you. It kinda seems like you are just using them to pander to people, not a good look. JS I don’t trust either one of you so it looks like you both have a lot of work to do over the next couple weeks!! You both better start actually telling the truth, cause you know we can look up how you both voted on bills, and start trying to change some minds!! We ALL are watching and paying attention now.
Did tim Ryan forget that the Chips act here in ohio will only hire people with a college degree. They don't care what the degree is as long as you have one. That's only helping people that already have great job prospects and not the average blue collar guy. Most of those jobs won't get filled because college is far too expensive for most people.
And republicans are making college less expensive? 100% percent of them oppose forgiving college loans or making tuition free for lower and middle income students. How does being denied birth control and forced to have children help women put food on the table? How does doing ZERO about floods, droughts, crop failure, hurricanes, wildfires doing ZERO about climate catastrophe and ZERO to convert America's energy sector to 21st century, how does that help you economically? How is letting women be forced to have miscarriages by doing ZERO about chemical pollution next to their homes, add up to respect for life? Vote Republican! Vote ZERO respect for life. Vote for Catastophes, mayhem instability, political violence and doing NOTHING except protecting fat cats and robbing women of their basic human dignity and freedom. Whoopie!
Do you think they will only hire degreed applicants to do all the handling, order picking, shipping/receiving, office work, supervision and machine operators? Degrees will be for technology, CAD/CAM, and new product innovation jobs.
Ryan has undereye circles, probably genetic or an allergy, and forehead lines from facial expression. Vance *may* have had botox - his forehead and cheeks aren't moving. Please base your decision on something more substantial than appearance.
Wow! JD really sucks at telling the truth! And the way Trump shamed him and took his dignity at that rally the other night? No thank you! Tim Ryan for the win!
See I didn’t see it that way at all at the rally. What I seen was trump calling jd out for what he did to him and put major pressure on him for doing that.
@@lillydon1510 You are certainly free to spin it however you want, but I thank you for validating for the rest of us that JD is Trump's puppy. And now for the facts: Trump - "...and then the New York Times did a fake story today, big front page that JD wasn't sure if he wanted my support. JD IS KISSING MY ASS HE WANTS MY SUPPORT!" *crowd laughs* Trump - "I'M 18 POINTS UP! If I was 18 points down, he wouldn't want my support..."
@@bullpuppy7455 he might be his puppet. But I do know that Tim has sucked at his job and I doubt he will do better for buckeyes if he is senator. Have you been to Tim’s district that he has represented the last twenty years?? I don’t like JD either. he just knows if trump endorsed him he will probably win. I took it at the rally that trump was saying, yah JD I know what you did, now let’s see what you will do. Trumps record the last time I checked was 198-7. Probably more now. I don’t trust either one I just know Tim has done nothing for the huge city he has represented and it’s just way worse. Then he wanted to defund the cops in it, seriously? Tim hasn’t cared about his district before so why should I believe he will care about the whole state now?
@@AvvieLanche I did, that’s why I made the comment I made. He never answers just deflects and defaults to some Chinese company he can’t even name. He clearly didn’t prepare for the debate or he has nothing he can defend.
Because he's been around for 20 years half ass'ing his job and taking dirty money. Taking whatever party line and canned insults are handed to him for his DC masters.
Best comment! Nailed it!!! 😂 JD Vance is *SAVAGE* with truth & facts, & defending / fighting for our Constitutional values. Looks like he’s also very clearly big on draining the swamp & calling out all the politicians that are still hoping to live off the back’s off all the hard working tax-payers.. and thank the Good Lord! This is exactly the kind of men that our country at large, needs. Hopefully those in Ohio can see that too & filter through the lies & misinformation they’re constantly fed. We’re neighbors (fm Indiana) so I’m praying for the best for them, my brother & a lot of other great people I’ve met through work are there. 🇺🇸💪🏼
Vance “nuked” Ryan”. Really? Did we watch the same debate? My observations: • There were areas where I AGREED with both candidates: o Both were correct in saying we should take on China relative to trade, but incorrect in supporting Trump’s unilateral tariffs against China. We should have brought TPP and European countries in with us, since that would have increased our leverage against China. o Both were correct in praising the Chips and Science Act. Ryan added the point that this law will bring a lot of jobs, including averaging $135K per year for the Intel plant to be built near Columbus. o Both agreed to accept the results of this year’s election. o Both candidates were strong in saying we need to be strong in siding with Taiwan relative to China. o Both candidates said we need more money for cops. • There were also some areas where I DISAGREED with both candidates: o They both ignored the inconvenient fact that a result of the Trump tariffs against China and China’s retaliatory actions was that some farmers -- including in Ohio! -- who could no longer export grain to China committed suicide. Plus, we needed to pay off $28 billion to bail out big agribusiness who were also hurt by China's retaliation to the same tariffs. o Neither candidate brought up the notion of mandatory national E-Verify, which really IS a strong method for keeping undocumented workers out of the country. • In my view, Ryan deserves credit for: o Correctly mentioning that the bipartisan infrastructure bill would create 600,000 jobs. o Correctly blaming the effects of coming out of the Covid pandemic for inflation o Supporting two natural gas electricity generation plants in his district o Wanting to codify Roe v. Wade in law. o Citing that Vance had said that rape was “inconvenient”. o Claimed that Vance sided with election deniers and those who stormed the Capitol and helped raise money for their legal defense. o Correctly claimed that Vance campaigned with Ron DeSantis, who’s looking to ban books; and also with Marjorie Taylor-Green, who he accurately called the “looniest politician in America”. o Said we would need a “swift and significant response:” against Russia’s use of nukes in Ukraine. Added that he’s been supportive of a strong military, including voting with Trump. o Accurate statement in saying (paraphrasing) “only JD Vance would say that a bill codifying same sex marriage isn’t about same sex marriage”. o For SCOTS candidates, WOULD have “litmus tests” on abortion, marriage equality and birth control. o Stated that didn’t “want politicians in bedrooms and doctors’ offices”. o Correct in stating that can’t build a wall in the Rio Grande River, but need more technology to stop fentanyl, plus the need for comprehensive immigration reform and that said Vance was hypocritical by hiring foreign workers. o Correct in saying that said Kamala Harris is wrong and that the Southern border is NOT secure. Plus, correctly stated the needs for more border patrol and more technology to enforce the border. o Mentioned that voted for recent reforms to Medicare including negotiating drug prices, capping seniors’ drug prices at $2,000 per year plus $35 insulin. o Mentioned about January 6th cops being badly abused and that Vance helped raise money for the 1/6 thugs that did that. o Correct in pointing out that the biggest threat to elections and democracy is extremism. o Made strong point about “guys who lack the guts to oppose their own party”. Backed that up by saying that on accession, he’s gone against Pelosi, Sanders and Biden and gone along with Trump on trade (including reforming NAFTA) and China. o Cited that Vance wouldn’t stand up to Trump, including when Trump said “JD Vance, all you do is kiss my ass to get my support”, plus that Vance’s response to that was essentially an on-stage “kumbaya” type moment with Trump. o Strong statement in saying that Ohio needs an “ass-kicker instead of an ass-kisser”. • Regarding Vance (again, in my view): o Vance blamed Biden’s borrowing for inflation. Fact: Trump borrowed $7.8 trillion, while Biden curt the deficit by 50% and only borrowed $1.4 trillion for the 2022 budget. JD, polish up on your math! Plus, he missed the far bigger picture that there’s really MANY other causes of inflation: the Federal Reserve’s failure to raise interest rates earlier; the war in Ukraine; OPEC’s, the oil industry’s and Wall Street investors (and now the Saudis) rolling back oil production; supply-chain snarls and people taking early retirements coming out of Covid. o Vance ducked responding when Ryan claimed he opposed abortions for rape and incest cases and also ducked the issue about whether would support Lindsey Graham’s anti-abortion bill. Instead of responding about the abortion issue relative to the raped 10-yaer old, he re-framed the issue to the fact that a 10-year-old girl was raped by an illegal alien. o Vance blames Biden for “people hating each other”. Blaming Biden? Biden is NOWHERE NEAR as divisive as Trump on issues like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. o Claimed “nobody knows how we should respond” to nukes from Russia in Ukraine. Really? That’s BS! I GUARANTEE you there’s people in the Pentagon who have formulated multiple options on this. o Opposed marriage equality legislation because it would threaten religious organizations. Really, I seriously doubt that! For example, these type bills always allow churches to opt out of doing gay weddings. o Ducked question about litmus tests for SCOTUS candidates. o Ducked responding to Ryan’s point that he helped raise legal defense money for the January 6th thugs that injured 140 cops. o Claimed there was no reason Trump should be thrown in prison. JD really, are you paying attention? Start with the House and DoJ January 6th investigations, the Georgia election probe, Mar-a-Lago documents probe and the NY State investigations into the Trump organization. o Didn’t respond to Ryan’s claims relative about “stolen election” BS, and the facts that Trump-inspired thugs that stormed the Capitol on January 6th and threatened to hang Mike Pence really ARE a threat to democracy.
@@TruthSage1 Your copy and paste from a rag opinion article is duly noted. Vance rolled Ryan an there's no doubt in that. Ryan's response to everything? "A woman's right to choose!". "Trump!". "We can't have a 2nd amendment because of the ChIlDrEn!". Ryan was on a script that EVERY senator in this year's election cycle used. Warnock, Kelly, etc. They all said the same exact thing. You just admitted to being played, and outed yourself as a low IQ voter hahaha.
@HyperionSF You claim that I "copy and paste from a rag opinion". I'll say this politely: male bovine feces!!! I watched the debate and wrote EVERY WORD of that comment myself. As for Ryan being on-script, which of the other Democratic candidates that you mentioned stated, for example, that (paraphrasing) Trump as having said "“JD Vance, all you do is kiss my ass to get my support”? Or, that VP Harris was wrong in saying that the Southern border is secure? None that I recall! And yes, Ryan DID make some statements that echoed other Democratic Senatorial candidates. SO WHAT? How does that make any of those statements incorrect? Duh, of course it doesn't and for the most part, they're spot on! Of course, you don't provide anything in the way of specific reasons of why you take issue with ANY of the points I brought. It's easy to insult people; any know-nothing can do that. It's a lot harder to drill down and actually write something intelligent. And no, I wasn't "played"! I raised a whole bunch of very specific things. You on the other hand, throw out know-nothing ad hominem attacks against Tim Ryan and against me. Is that really the best that you can do?
@@TruthSage1 So when I call you out and ask you on anything specific to debate, you ignore that and basically just repeat what you already said? Can you say "cult?
So that's why China has inflation, England has inflation, France has inflation, Hungary has inflation, Kenya has inflation, Italy has inflation? I didn't realize Biden was President of all of those countries,
We have an inflation problem because corporations currently refuse to see their profits reduced in the slightest, happy to pass all of the pain onto consumers because in an economy that exclusively prizes shareholders over consumers that's how the companies keep the sacred stock price high. Record profits during high inflation and the Corporatocracy has you all convinced that consumers/workers are to blame. Stockholm Syndrome.
I am here because Emily Jashinky mentioned it and is keen to watch a JD Vance Tim Waltz debate. I love how JD says his opponent says meaningful things but never had a chance to put his money where his mouth is in decades in DC. Waltz is at his peak and feels invincible, let's see how much he sweats vs JD Vance
He’s really not though. He is trying to pander to people by putting his kids in commercials. It’s not a good look. And him all of a sudden wearing American flag shirts. He doesn’t care about his city or state or he wouldn’t vote for shit bills and he wouldn’t be a democrat anymore. Everyone can see their game now.
JD did not answer how he would improve the economy. He did complain about Democrats. JD never answered how he would improve teacher and school funding as asked!
How many back seats are there Tim Ryan? "I'm not going to take a back seat to you. I'm not going to take a back seat to you. I'm not going to take a back seat to you. I'm not going to take a back seat to you."
How were gas prices in Ohio not mentioned? Low income families cant afford fuel to get to work let alone purchase an electric vehicle that the democrats are pushing towards in the green new deal. A bill in which Ryan voted for. JD gets my vote on that alone.
Gas prices were not mentioned because we do not live in a country where politicians do not call the shots for corporations to pump and manufacture gas. Want to blame someone, blame the corporations, and Putin's friends called OPEC.Time for you MAGAs to grow up and begin to learn how the world works.
@@historybuff1483 HEY BOT YOU ARE DUMBER THAN A DOORNAIL. WHATS NOT HIGH? YOU MUST BE BC GAS IS 4 DOLLAR A GALLON EVERYWHERE EXCEPT WHERE THE FORGIENERS WATER IT DOWN. SMOKE SOME MORE
Ryan tells the truth and lies at the same time lol and I love how Ryan tried to rail Vance with the whole trump and Vance kissing ass thing but he didn't even give all the context. He turned a joke into a lie. Typical from people like him.
"China is stealing our jobs." Both parties agree with this nonsense, and _no one_ ever calls them out. It is of course demonstrably false. The number of jobs that have left for China amount to a measly fraction of annual job separations (in a good year). It isn't logical to believe that you could trade with other countries and not lose any jobs, and it's even more unreasonable to support a no-trade policy. Secondly, import restrictions raise the costs of our exports, which destroys far more jobs than foreign import competition. One of the problems here is that both parties are economically illiterate, and voters aren't any wiser.
@@CornPopodopolis but the people who lost won’t admit that he lost. And now, according to a Gallup poll, 40% of republican voters will claim fraud if they lose. BEFORE the election. Trump lost. Say it
Coming back here after it was announced Vance is running as Trump's VP.
Ha! Me too!
Are they wearing the same suit? Lmao
You want term limits? Ryan’s term has lasted 20 years. He’s done
Should somebody bereft of any intelligence like you be listened to at all? First fix your failed life. Then educate yourself before ever making any remark. It’s not a good look for you.😂
Yeah, I really agree I want to do NOTHING about crop failures, droughts and floods and I want to raise taxe on working class people. Yeah! And if people's babies are dying in Guatemala because of crop failure and they try to come here, let's kidnap more of their babies. Let's seperate little children from their mothers for the crime of wanting their children to live and not be raped by drug cartels. While we are at it, let's support the NRA and sell more guns to the drug cartels so that they can kill more of their countrymen and women! Whoo Ya! Vote Republican. Vote for Zero compassion, Zero 'Give me your tired and poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" Fuck the Statue of Liberty. Who need 'Sweet Land of Liberty" It's like football. Let's lose the game and then scream that we want to change the rules after our team loses. Let's destroy football AND Democracy. Who needs it? Chaos and violence and instability is so MUCH BETTER> Vote Republican! Yay!
Jd Vance is a joke he’s all talk he doesn’t have any plan to fix supply chain or health care cost and creating more jobs. He has ZERO POLTICAL experience and bashed trump. How could he be any worse??? You’re really misinformed to vote for him but go ahead vote against yourself if you choose so.
20 years is enough for any politician
So you’re so a politician with NO experience is better 😂😂 that’s common sense to know that answer
@@ohi8ofan A Politician with experience???? You mean like Nutty Nancy and her terrific luck in the stock market?? Or maybe you mean Potato with his '0' accomplishments since 1973?? 12yrs is plenty!!
JD actually explained himself instead of talking points.
JD never answered the first question about what HE would do to help the single mother with the economy. He whine about Democrats but never answered the question. JD never answered how he would raise teachers pay. He talked about himself but again never answered the question.
@@daysrcdays how about we prevent the single mother debacle by educating students on not having sex until they are old enough to take on the responsibility of having children, and why would Ohioans fund an obviously Marxist teachers union that has every intent on indoctrinating our children in what is being called woke ideology.
@@UrbCrafter Wow. please take your stupid made up argument to others in your own party that buy that shit!
@@daysrcdays You can't be this stupid, can you?
@@daysrcdays Don't be a victacrat ... th-cam.com/video/nhPqmJynQPU/w-d-xo.html
So I'm from California, I'm a (moderate) Democrat and I'm here to say Tim Ryan got obliterated in this debate. JD Vance was sharp, informed, and on point. Even if what he said were lies they came off great. Ryan looked bored, he looked annoyed, he was out of touch and couldn't answer most of the questions Vance shot back at him. IMO JD Vance will be the next Senator from Ohio.
JD Vance obliterated Tim Ryan with the truth! Democrat politicians are evil and "FULL" of lies. It's too bad Democrat voters are so gullible. I'm an immigrant minority and as an immigrant, we don't trust government, so we do thorough researches to find out the lesser of two evils, Democrat or Republican. Come to find out, Democrat and many Republican politicians are actually on the same team, trying to invoke their evil agenda. Conservative is the best way to go for immigrants....because we've lived under tyrannical govt, we know what they look and sound like and we don't want to live under tyranny anymore. That's why we have left our original countries.
Que se te haga la boca chicharrón.
You write "Even if what he [Vance] said were lies they came off great."
I'll admit I didn't watch this debate. But unless the target audience is a bunch of ignoramuses, how could anybody lying in a debate come across as "great"?
@@TruthSage1I know. I read that and said ok bye.
@@TruthSage1She obviously did not listen
Ryan is almost as smart as our leader President Biden.
That doesn't mean anything from right-wing low IQ voters
Wake up donkey!
Your MAGAt BS is almost at an end, BECAUSE of the two-faced hypocrisy of people like J.D.!!!
He’s infinitely smarter than your entire lineage.
@@coimbralaw can't be said about you
@@coimbralaw do you have autism?
Tim Ryan doesn't debate like a 20 year politician, he repeats talking points, offered very little substance and had no counters for the solid claims by Vance. I think that generational change in politics Mr Ryan desires should begin with him. ✌🏾
That's what fake cookie cutter politicians really are the same old thing of the same old thing not working for the people working for themselves working for the political Elites working for the retarded politicians that keep doing the same shit not getting different results but coming up with more retarded shit to add in the mix if we don't start voting different and voting like Freedom fucking depended on it then we would definitely be selling ourselves short this guy Tim Ryan cares more about the look of his hair then fighting China I don't believe anything that he says because he admitted liking Nancy Pelosi first of all why would you like a person that doesn't even care about the mentally ill people within her District would rather than live on the street then to give them shelter that's not the work of someone that is religious look what's happened to Columbus that's pathetic in itself during a plandemic it is not a pandemic they had a plan for this this guy's got nothing but excuses and excuses are like assholes and they all smell bad I'm just being real with it look regardless where we stand on the political sphere you can watch this debate and you can tell that this guy's full of shit
Youngstown is so bad right now , Ryan hasn’t done anything for Ohioans.
I suppose Youngstown was better with Traficant. Ryan was one of his aides. Youngstown hasn't done well since the inept late Charles J Carney was elected.
Joshua that’s exactly what I’m saying. Tim has represented that town for twenty years now. If you can’t get the city better in that long of a time then what makes anyone think he’ll do better with the whole state?
@@honestone490 Traficant is not running in this election but rest assured Democrats will have him voting for Ryan
TOLEDO OHIO ALSO
TIm Ryan votes 100% with Joe Biden. It's an easy vote folks.
Facts!!!! That's the bottom line.
Nope. Not easy. Not all of Biden's decisions have been right.
In the end, yes, Ryan is the better candidate, no doubt. But just because you say he always agrees with the President (and I'm not sure that's true), that doesn't automatically make him the right choice. Only experience and honesty can do that.
@@nychellebrewer I believe he was saying Tim Ryan was the wrong choice. It's pretty clear anybody that votes with Biden 100% of the time is awful for America.
@@30rdmaga Obviously, anyone who votes with anyone on anything 100% is not an independent thinker. But Joe Biden doesn't actually vote on legislation--he just has the veto. Nancy Pelosi is the Democratic Speaker of the House. And she's the person Tim Ryan's trying to replace, right?
(Also, you seem to be misgendering the OP. Yougene is traditionally a female name in Singaporean culture.)
Oh yeah voting Vance just cause of that
JD Vance got my vote, we can't afford a democrat lying through his teeth! Tim Ryan will continue with the inflation, Vote Red JD Vance!
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There's no way in hell I'd vote for that Bat-Shit Crazy Cultist. Vance is a Sick Fk!
Tim Ryan should run for president. He is courageous, ethical, and an example of the leadership we need in the USA!
He did in 2020 and he was quickly an afterthought.
I’ve read comments on Tim Ryan’s FB for years and he is an EXTREME progressive! I wasn’t sure about JD Vance until this debate! Good job Vance, I really think you’re the right man for the job!
I generally agree with most of Ryan's stated views but I'll be voting Vance.
Tim Ryan was a sponsor of SEL in schools, which is Maoist struggle sessions to recruit children from Pre-K to teens and beyond for Cultural Revolution. We don't need to be lining up kids in order of them being oppressors and victims, based on racial identity and if they have a father at home, or based on some actions of someone's ancestors who the child roughly resembles.
I'm also for Equal Rights for everyone, including LGB and also T are entitled to rights and so are former T who try to convert back. The problem with T is they go far beyond demanding equality and Liberty. T wants obedience and celebration by everyone else .. or else expect punishment.
Q? No!
Q is an ideology of intentional destabilization of everything in society, including but not limited to gender and public celebration of fetishes. That is outright treason, aiming for Maoist Revolution.
Neo Marxists oppose equal rights and oppose basic liberalism. They want Rights to vary on a scale of intersectionality, based not on evidence, determinations by woke commissars deciding who gets extra points or extra discounts, based on determinations of the relevant identity groups and on a scale of social oppression, both current and historical, both real and imaginary-subjective.
@@gg_rider: Sad.
How uncomfortable Ryan looks. And with reason.
The debate question to Vance "you have said as far back as July you believe we are already in a recession.."
Yes we are factually by definition of the word in a recession. It isnt some radical opinion.
We never recovered from Covide19 shutdown and talking inflation lol
Oil n gas fracking companies went bankrupt in 2019 48 billion dollars in loses
Joe Biden Bringing jobs to America not China and building more Green Energy sectors in Electric Cars sector after the United States is switch over in 60 percent in Electric vehicles we Americans will be saying how come we didn't do this 50 yrs ago in long run of climate change disaster costs we will realize we can spend Trillions on climate change disaster or spend Trillions in our children future
@@dannypomeroy9255 We recovered from that recession just before the 2020 election...
@@hyperionsf3220 lmao in a shutdown oil n gas fracking companies going bankrupt in 2019 48 billion in loses n big oil losing 240 billion if Americans had to eat them loses our cheep gas would been 8 bucs a gallon and how many Barrels of oil did the Deal maker buy when it was selling at a negative per barrel not one Drop of oilcwas purchased n Our inflation started with Teriffs on China n China forecast was 3 yrs b4 they are fully back to normal distribution to world economy
Right off the bat without a word being said, Vance looks relaxed, and Ryan looks stiff and terrified.
Looks don't say much. I care about what they are saying.
@@ulipeterson6112 why would you care what tim ryan says? You should look at that he has done in 20 years
@@Sk8RsFoRLiF3 hes done nothing i can tell you ???
And he was trying to lie on him the whole time
That's just how Tim Ryan looks.
Ryan looks like DeBlasio’s twin.
JD Vance looks like an evil Wil Wheaton.
You're welcome xD
Vance looks like he enjoys watching his wife be with other men
@@Gafferd8186 Keep dreaming big!
@@Gafferd8186 really?!?
@@jdenino6022 sorry trump taught me those words
Tim Ryan got his ass kicked...real hard.
Mitch McConnell is sobbing somewhere.....
WOW! JD Vance was prepared and ready. Ryan looks dazed and confused.
#VoteRed
Not hard for a liberal Democrat to look confused!
I thought he was called an A kisser by the former president?
I don’t get it. Everyone saying Vance is this “great debater”. Sorry I don’t see it.
Ryan was busy attacking personaly while vance was attacking on pilicies 😂
@@AryanOberoi-zd6sfThat being said, he’s still no silver tongue. He benefitted from a stiff, unprepared opponent as well.
Tim Ryan was destroyed in this debate. It’s amazing to me that none of these moderators ever push Democrats on what their line is on abortion. They always get away with saying it’s up to the women and Dr to provide abortion on demand. Then claiming every pregnancy is rape and incest when it’s under 1% of abortions. Vance should ask Ryan what’s the line on the other 99% of abortions.
That’s not the principle. It’s an overreach to ban it outright, including rape situations. Anyone that wants that kind of extremist control is a Christofascist.
Well he didn’t so he must not care
Well he didn’t so he must not care
So dishonest.
No Democrat claims every pregnancy is rape or incest.
Only Trumplicans have the gall and indecency to tell extreme whoppers like that (à la "Democrats want to kill Republicans; they've already started" [Marjorie Taylor Greene], "And frankly we did win this election" [Trump, the evening OF the #2020election, WHILE EVERY STATE WAS STILL COUNTING BALLOTS], "The Left has declared war on Thanksgiving" [Charlie Kirk]).
Ryan DID answer the question: he said we need to return to Roe v. Wade, either by Congress or a re-do at the Supreme Court. What more did you want?
Vance, no surprise, repeated the same absurdities bloviated by forced-pregnancy pushers.
There is literally no such thing as "abortion on demand." No one can demand an abortion when meddling state legislators impose a 24- to 72-hour waiting period to have an abortion after initially meeting the abortion provider.
And NO ONE wakes up at 39 weeks gestation and thinks, "I feel like having an abortion today." This is lunacy.
Nearly all abortions occur in the first trimester, and, no, a fetus at 12 weeks does not look exactly like an infant at birth, just smaller. This is one of many #GOPLies, and one of many Alito included in his Dobbs decision. At 12 weeks, the fetus's skin is translucent and its body is blobby with a humungous head.
Democrats oppose absolute cutoffs after which abortions cannot occur because the reality is fetuses do (start to) die post-viability (~24 weeks). Denying girls and women an abortion (including medications that cause a "chemical abortion") puts their own life in peril.
Also testing could determine a fetus will be born with severe birth defects with no chance of survival. An example is anencephaly, caused by insufficient intake of the B vitamin folic acid early in pregnancy. A fetus with anencephaly has only a brain stem and will suffer greatly and die within hours of being born.
Deciding to have an abortion or give birth in these circumstances is deeply personal and should be entirely private.
AMERICANS ARE NOT FREE when the government forces girls and women to carry a pregnancy and endure labor and delivery against their will.
This is #immoral.
Forcing girls and women to carry their rapist's spawn throughout pregnancy, labor, and delivery without their consent is not only immoral. It's literally #torture.
rights are always easy to give away, as long as they're not yours, huh?
The fake non-profit was called Our Ohio Renewal, which raised 221k and gave most of it to administrative costs and promoted a Purdue Pharma Doctor.
Tim Ryan did accept 27k over the last 12 years from three drug companies, but he also voted against them to lower drug prices.
Tim Ryan supports Joe Biden who molested his daughter. Why won’t democrats demand Joe step down?
27k is awesome, for a mayor’s level race.
No he did not because the bill never passed, Democrats voted it down.
How much money has Timmy taken over the last 20 years, made him a millionaire
And proof or did you see on CNN ?
These guys look like Zach Galifianakis and will ferrel in the campaign! lol
JD is standing up to you!
And JD won this debate! 🇺🇸
The only debate? For such a competitive race, that makes no sense!!
AZ Dem Katie Hobbs won't debate Kari Lake at all. Dem John Fetter only has 1 scheduled debate vs Dr. Oz (better than even chance Fetterman opts out in the last minute...).
Looks like the Dems general strategy, in every state, for just about every office, is to have as few debates as possible. They believe they have "homecourt advantage", thanks to the clearly pro-Democrat MSM. Dem's ideas are clearly weaker than the GOP's, so the fewer debates where GOP candidates can pummel the Dem candidates the better for the Dems.
One too many for Ryan.
Actually not that competitive of a debate considering Vance is gonna beat Ryan more than the buckeyes will beat the wolverines this year
Push polls make it seem competitive. They always underestimate Election Day republican vote jd by close to if not 10 points
@@NateTheOhioan I pray he does but you know how the Demon-Rats Cheat. Remember, they cheated Trump out of his Presidency.
Vance for the WIN...
I hope and prayer Ohio does the right thing to send the message by voting on the last day (making sure your votes are counted) for J.D. Vance. No matter what woke message came out of Ryan’s mouth, his action for the State of Ohio demonstrated nothing during his term. If you want defunding police, high crime, illegal Immigrants, drug addiction on the rise, jobs heading over seas, then vote for him. Another four years under Ryan’s watch may not reverse the damages he already did and will continue to do.
what about womens reproductive rights?
@@marybreskvar2745 What about the incident unborn rights? Let’s be clear, if a women choose not to have a baby then simply put, don’t make babies. If a women did not choose and was forced by rap, another story. If a women giving birth and both having complications is another story. But, when a women choose to have unprotected sex and gets pregnant, no longer her decision to discard an innocent unborn. If a family member, friend, or coworker was killed by another person (God Forbid) you would want that person to be put away for life or the death sentence. No different for abortion. Murder is murder. Same goes for a pregnant women that was murdered, it’s called double homicide. Two lives were taken. A women can protect her reproductive rights by not getting pregnant to avoid an abortion, or be responsible for another human life by having the pregnancy.
Nah, I am so sick an tired of my money going to baby mommas! Why the men never stay? Idk. Fathers these days don't care, so why should I? A mother of 6 kids? How can anyone do that on their own? If she had support to abort as soon as she found out, I would kindly drive her. Kids deserve better to be born unto a world that has no way to support them. It's sick. At 20weeks, fine the baby too big to take away, also you would know by then. If any complications, ask the mother first. It's a womans right to choose. Some of ya'll men gonna be sick to know that u forced preged ur wives and she can decide if she really wants ur kids. Take it from a woman who works with homeless families, some of these parents just can't work for themselves let alone their kids so they take the check and barely make it stretch. Smh. Also, increase the price of abortions, make it a financial burden as well. Safe & Rare. Low down dirty fathers pay child support in womb too. Lazy POS, 9 months worth of $$ for that baby to survive. Dr visits, vitamins, food, clothes etc. Being preg ain't cheap. Anything but take my $$ from my pocket becuz of lack of responsibility. No one is getting them like candy when u can just give birth and get another check. .ugh thonk ppl. These kids have to grow up and who will they likely be? Criminals, undereducated, in poverty. Just have kids you actually want, and use protection. Ain't that hard.
@@fobluv4lyfe Your voice is heard. And some valet points as well. It’s true, the system failed us for years. Sadly, it’s not going to get any better soon. As stated, you understand working with poor. I get it! I been there and did my share to contribute (Volunteered) to this crime of mess that no one should have to go through in this country. But, the reality is aborting babies isn’t the answer. No matter the circumstances, there is no justification to have an abortion. Absolutely, they’re deadbeats dads, one to too many children in a single family homes living in poverty, significant others forced to have kids, and the list goes on. Yes, with all the negative circumstances for middle, low class, and poverty individuals is a burden getting pregnant and having the child. Although the circumstances, each individual has a choice becoming pregnant. No different then a choice to live within a broken system, welfare, government assistance, or like the fake president handing out money and no one has to work for a living.
No one is holding a gun to their heads. Every individual has the right to be poor or not. Every individual has the right to become pregnant or not. If an individual relying on the system and they will remain in the system. If an individual choose to have unsafe sex she will be most likely pregnant. A choice. Multiple stories of people getting out of the system and finding ways to overcoming the barriers. Yes, even a single parent with serval kids to support. The fact is the system is broken and it’s been done deliberately to keep the poor in this cycle. The fact is we’re taught to blame others for our mistakes in this cycle. And those caught in the system or born into it will blame the world for their situation. It’s a cycle that is controlled by the system -deliberately. Example are those cash stores providing loans designed for low income. Why? keep them in the system. Yet, it is a choice each individual makes.
Besides making an argument for the poor or low income, too many of the haves gone through abortions. So, it’s not just the low come, but the middle and rich class having abortion. As I stated before, with the exception of rap or the difficulties during pregnancy, abortion is a selfish act. No justification having an abortion regardless how bad the world may seemed. If that baby in a mothers womb can speak, he/she would want to be born. But, for a women to decide for another human being what rights he/she has is nothing more then a selfish act. Self serving! A nation that self serves in a selfish act is a nation to collapse. No country can survive when each individual lives for his/hers self alone.
We have free will to make choices. Some are good and some are not so good. But, it’s our free will that separates us from animals. We alone can make something of ourselves no matter what circumstances we’re in. Or we can continue to blame others and the system for our poor decisions in which we choose to live in. If we choose to eat bad foods expect the outcome. If we choose to do drugs, expect the outcome. If we choose to rub and steal from others, expect the outcome. If we choose to have material things first vs food on the table, expect the outcome. And if we choose to have unsafe sex, expect the outcome. Choices! Again, If in debt, who is to blame? Do I blame the credit card companies or myself for getting into debt? Do I point the figure for where I’m at in my life, and do I take responsibility and make a change from the choices I made? Same goes for those born into the system. Do I continue to live in the system and blame others, or make a CHOICE to get out and make something of myself? And for many folks, it’s been done! Over, over, and over again. Yeah, folks in a broken system willing to get out is not impossible. And those not wanting to have kids can avoid getting pregnant. It’s simple as taking responsibility!
We have to stop blaming others and look in the mirror why situations are what they are. Choice!
Instead of moving on quickly to the next question how about letting J.D. respond to Ryan's accusations.
You think this is bad you should of seen the CA Governor debate both moderators were on Newsom's d*ck. It didn't help that the Republican opponent( I don't even know his name thats how irrelevant he is) didn't have the lluevos/balls to stand up to Newsom.
Tim is horrible. I can’t believe he’s held office for that many years.
Why’s Tim Ryan look so coked out lmao
He is 100%
3:10 hands in pockets
3:20 Legitimate sniff.
Then watch when he answers the 1st question 😃
And the winner is….. JD VANCE!!!
You mean Peter Thiel? Vance is just the avatar
Not many everyday Americans know who Peter Thiel is, but he's done more for America First Republicans and I hope some of you do a little research on Thiel. Very interesting guy who is not your typical Silicone Valley Billionaire who's a Democrat handing out money to the Ultra Left Radical Democrat Socialist. Americans owe a great debit of gratitude to him for his involvement a support of The AMERICA FIRST POLITICAL MOVEMENT!!
As a conservative I was unsure about JD Vance and his values. After this debate I am fully behind Mr Vance.
Yeah I agree.
"You're consultants gave you a line and you don't know what you're talking about" ... that was real :)
Lmao I laughed so hard when Vance said that
I’ve never heard of Tim Ryan until now. How on earth did people keep voting for this dude for 20 years!? Wow!
JD smartly flipped the story about the girl who was raped by explaining that the perpetrator was an illegal immigrant who Ryan should have kept out
And that claim that the little girl would of been forced to carry the baby is all bs! As a Texan I can tell you their are exceptions for incest rape and the life of the mother. No exceptions refers the trimester of the fetus/babies development stage. Jd Vance should of also mentioned that the mother didn't want to take her daughter for an abortion here in Texas because her daughter's rapist was her boyfriend. She wanted to protect the pos not her daughter.
JD kicked his a$$
@The Monkey grammar is hard 🤣
@The Monkey go get your monkey pox vaccine... hurry.
What planet do you live on? Delusional AF.
@The Monkey You are his dreams? A Democrat with the IQ of a monkey, no surprise here.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ryan said he wanted to enhance ohio's ability to repair naval ships. how does he propose to get the ships from either ocean to ohio for repair?
NO Clue. lol
You can actually take a ship from Cleveland to the Atlantic via the canal system that connects the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence River…. Which leads out to the Atlantic.
Electric helicopters lol
Lmao right
@@MyNameIsJ3ffrey would that be the most efficient way to navigate a ship. When you have on both coasts multiple places well equipped to repair ships. And please do some research and tell us what is the limits on your "canals".
Drinking wine & eating cheese 😂
Lmao atta girl 🥂
"I'm not an ass kisser like this guy" LMAO!!
Says the guy that begged for a job and couldn’t name the alleged Chinese company that Vance is invested in.
@@BumpyHumpyDumpy Oh no! Ryan couldn't name a company but a former President degraded Vance and groveled for his approval. Not sure I see your point here.
@@tordb exactly!!!
He's a Schumer and Pelosi Bootlicker, Ryan, that is.
@@tordb Did you actually watch the clip of Trump? Also, Ryan talks about standing up to Trump and Biden…as he begged Chuck Schumer for a promotion…the only way he’s moving up politically…begging…like a dog.
Ryan is clearly not much of a man, whereas JD can confront criticism.
In my opinion Tim Ryan over the last 20 years has done NOTHING for Ohio! Nothing at all... oh wait... he has sucked Ohio tax dollars with out earning them! Vote for Vance!
Vance! Vote Vance!
I like Vance a whole lot better
At least twice that I heard Rep. Ryan noted that Mr. Vance employs foreign workers in Ohio. But I didn’t hear either clarify if he was referring to legal or illegal workers. Presumably, he meant workers legally in the country or the stuff would have hit the fan. If so, what is hypocritical (as Rep. Ryan seems to imply) about someone being against illegal immigration while employing workers legally in the country? Unless I missed it, I don’t understand why Mr. Vance did not clarify this point.
He didn’t need to. Fact Check will make it clear he didn’t do anything wrong or make him a hypocrite.
I noticed that danger thing too. That's a typical tactic politicians use to mislead voters into believing something different without saying it. JD missed it and should have set that straight immediately, but missed that pitch completely!!
@@bryanduchane2371 Quite right! As you probably saw, it came up again in the second debate and Vance set the record straight this time. As you alluded to, Ryan replied: "I didn't say illegal immigramts." Vance then replied that was your implicaiton.
@@LouRao I do not trust fact check at all. I've seen way to many times when the fact check was plenty wrong by design. Not a credible source for those who have seen them get caught trying to falsify facts
@@bryanduchane2371 I get it. And at times or many many cases your statement may be correct. Although there is no debate for Ryan’s action during his term. It’s a fact Ryan’s did nothing for the state of Ohio. From the time Ryan been in office Ohio has not gotten any better. From drug overdose, crime raising, jobs exported overseas, etc… is a clear signal Ohio needs to replace Ryan. Ohio is in a deep mess and it’s going to a lot of work to clean it up. Whereby, no one needs a fact check to see clearly what Ryan has done for the Ohio people -absolutely nothing.
Tim Ryan sounds and looks like a career politician. That’s not good
Why are they twinning?
USA
Tim Ryan is too ashamed of his party to wear a blue tie.
@@bsesq249 good point
@@bryan805 His party is going to win back the House and the Senate. America is fed up with the deranged lunatics in the Republican party.
Conventional look
Gay male and business owner here in Ohio and there is NO way I'm voting for Tim Ryan. Dude is an absolute mess.
Enjoy losing your rights then
@The Monkey ya, since the libs have to label everyone and everything. Tell me one policy a dem has put in place to benefit gays or minorities......
Dude it does not matter whether you are gay or heterosexual, I am glad that you see through this guys bullshit. This guy is a career politician who needs to be gone.
Well, don’t come crying to us liberals when the fundamentalist right takes away gay marriage.
Fuck yes, always happy to see people who are aware
Was totally blown away when Vance said the rape of the child would never have happened if not for weak border controls. YES, dirtbag it does happen and far too much, along with incest, and to not protect a woman's choice is beyond criminal. No way I want this stuffed suit being in charge of a woman's autonomy over her own body. For those who want to go on about Ryan talking points being repeated; How many times did I have to listen to Vance saying he has kids? SO WHAT!
The economy is shit and we barely able to feed our selves and that’s what you’re worried. You should get your priorities checked.
@@brendendick9287 The Irony of your statement. "we are barely able to feed our selves" yet you advocate forcing woman to bear children against their will or health concerns and then say I need to check my priorities. That's choice. So how are these women going to feed, cloth, house and give medical care for these unwanted children in this "shit" economy? WHO is going to give them mental care if they are neglected or abused? YOU????You think this SOB Desantis is going to vote to pay to help them/NOT his kids? roflmao. Not to mention educating them they are looking to privatize so they ran rake in the dollars from the minute your born till you die, and from your post you may be in need of a bit more of that yourself. These LIARS on both sides aren't trying to help YOU, so if I were you I would take the best offer of the crumbs these criminals offer and it aint with the Republicans. They want to cut social security to the elderly. If you can't care about that over your own selfish agenda I will add to the list of you not caring about women and their children's quality of life, that you don't care about your parents or grandparents either.
Unlike Tim Ryan, J. D. Vance is not a corrupt career politician. Plus J. D. Vance knows that career politics is wrong. J.D. Vance is honest differently from Tim Ryan. J.D. Vance clearly won this debate and then won the election as well.
Tim Ryan is a lying thief. Only way to go is JD VANCE. Ryan got his teeth kicked in.
Tim Ryan was a career politician which is a bad thing. I am glad J.D. Vance defeated him in the 2022 Ohio United States Senate election. J. D. Vance righteously and rightly opposes the bad things done by Tim Ryan. I am so glad that J. D. Vance opposes same-sex marriage and abortion. I also oppose abortion and same-sex marriage. I totally oppose abortion in all circumstances and with no exceptions whatsoever including in the cases of rape, incest and the mother's life being at risk and in danger. However I disagree with J. D. Vance being ok with wanting a raped 10-year-old girl in Ohio to abort her unborn child. Even the raped 10-year-old girl in Ohio should still allow her unborn child to be born and to live peacefully on Earth because life is precious and beautiful. I praise God for Sarah Huckabee Sanders who has a 100% pro-life record against abortion, Markwayne Mullin who has the same 100% pro-life record against abortion and many other politicians like them who are also 100% pro-life and against abortion for being able to be involved in politics. Praise God for that 100%.
One of the elementary schools’ playgrounds in Youngstown literally has a concrete barricade like a prison yard to protect the children from stray bullets. That’s how much good Tim Ryan’s policies have done for his district in his 20 years.
Vote JD Vance.
What’s the name of that school?
Can't believe that women can kill a baby but I also can't believe that we don't know what a woman is maybe it's the food we eat or the drinks we drink but something is wrong with us we're losing our morals
Ohio deserves better
Please give JD a chance, we know what Ryan has done, we have 20 years of his non accomplishments to look at
But he didn’t deny or defend the fact that he was called an A kisser? That’s kinda if he was chosen knowing that now.
kept calling him jd like their buddies, too funny
Ryan was allowed more LIE time than Vance. LETS GO BRANDON
I will never vote democrat agin #walkaway ❤️🇺🇸
oh, boris...
Welcome aboard. I'm a gay male here in Ohio and will NEVER vote for a Democrat. THEY have tried to buy my community for years and we are beginning to wake up!!!
Tim Ryan’s 🤥biggest lying 🤥
JD dominated this debate, I'm voting for him now
JD got rinsed. To the point he sent in his staffer to face the music afterwards.. JD got whooped (really bad)..
Agreed, JD the clear winner. Makes sense why he’s leading in all the polls.
Ditto that….
@@bryan805 no he isn’t lol
He literally got proven, factually, that he lied 4 times in two questions. The first 8 minutes he lied 4 times and that was proven with citation. Why don’t you care about that? Lmao
Tim Ryan hates J.D. Vance so much that he used profanity hatefully against him. I am sick and tired of people who are so foul mouthed. People are so mean and awful nowadays. This needs to stop. Straight up! Foul mouthed people need to calm the heck down and they need to chill.
I'm an independent and this debate definitely goes to Tim Ryan. People are tired of the extremism from republicans and don't think that rape victims should be forced to give birth to unwanted babies.
Call a crackhead when you get attacked
@@Thirthton As opposed to who, the police so they can show up an hour later, take my statement and then never talk to me again? Hell, if I gave a crackhead a few bucks they'd probably go make something happen at least.
@@theelephantintheroom1055 commie
@@Thirthton you look like youre 5 years old in your pfp. go do some colouring with your crayons and leave the politics to adults
@@Thirthton That's quite the intelligent response to my argument. Forgive me if I recuse myself from further interaction with such an intellectual heavyweight.
J.D. Vance won the debate.
J.d won the debate by ass 💋 trumps rump!! Lol
Sounds like Tim Ryan knocked up his mistress. That's why his view on abortion changed.
I hate liberalism and I love social conservatism.
wow, Vance is awesome. Please Ohio … please, vote Vance.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
JD is a clown act.
@Jim fox JD = Marjorie Taylor Greene
The Ryan dude gives SERIOUS creep vibes
Vance is calm and relaxed while Ryan is pale, face all red can stay still looks nervous and anxious
He looks like mark zuckerberg
@@NateTheOhioan Funny because Vance is the one backed by a big tech billionaire
Reason enough to vote for Vance! 🤣🤦🏻♀️
I'd really like to vote for Vance, but his stance on qualified immunity needs work.
I agree some level of QI is needed, but the way it works now is absurd.
It requires clear precedent in the courts of wrong doing. Due to a significant lack of precedent, government workers can basically violate your rights all they want.
That means even if everyone would identify it as wrong, if there's no precedent, they still get immunity, not what they deserve, which is a fair trial.
As it currently stands, this is hurting law enforcement. It allows the bad police to commit egregious rights violations, ruins the image of the police, including the good ones. Over time the bad apples even ruin some of the good ones too.
We need legislation to change qualified immunity, and encode it in law, but with a proper overhaul and more restrictions along the way not a blanket "get out of jail free" regardless of how bad the rights violation was.
This doesn't even get into the mess that is civil asset forfeiture.
We need criminal asset forfeiture, not civil. All civil asset forfeiture does is allow authoritarian governments to legally steal your money and things, all while making you fight a court battle to regain it, often more than the value of your property.
I'd hope whomever is elected, they push for laws to make civil asset forfeiture illegal. It's literally legalized highway robbery.
WOWO JD IS A SAVAGE! HE HAS MY VOTE!!!! YESSSS
you have the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair
I am so sorry Tim, nothing personal, but I can’t trust you to help this state. You have represented the same districts for decades now and Y-Town is so horrible I won’t even drive through it anymore. If you truely cared you would have done something for that area. Unless that city isn’t as important as say howland. Tim you have voted with Democrats and for the worst bills that are killing us regular people out here!! I know ALL of you reps get paid millions for saying or not saying certain things but your cities are hurting bad. So Tim you can say you will do this and do that but how can anyone trust what you say, seriously? Why all of a sudden do you care now? Cause you want to win? You wanted to defund the cops, in Youngstown, are you nuts? When is the last time you drove through the area you represent? See I think it should be a law you reps should have to live in the area you represent, maybe you’ll start caring then huh? To be honest I trust either one of you. You both just do what other reps or whoever tell you to do so how can anyone trust or believe either one of you? I’m sorry Tim like I said nothing personal, because I know you from way back in the day when you first started politics and I do believe you are a good man but honestly you have had twenty years to get it right and,, well,, you suck at your job. So I can’t believe your going to do better because you will be a senator now. I’m sorry but I’m just being honest. Please stop putting your children in your commercials. I know what your trying to do and it’s not working. Just because we see your kids does not mean we will all of a sudden vote for you. It kinda seems like you are just using them to pander to people, not a good look. JS I don’t trust either one of you so it looks like you both have a lot of work to do over the next couple weeks!! You both better start actually telling the truth, cause you know we can look up how you both voted on bills, and start trying to change some minds!! We ALL are watching and paying attention now.
Found another MAGA. I hope you like fascism. Trust me. You will NOT be safe.
Amen.
Did tim Ryan forget that the Chips act here in ohio will only hire people with a college degree. They don't care what the degree is as long as you have one. That's only helping people that already have great job prospects and not the average blue collar guy. Most of those jobs won't get filled because college is far too expensive for most people.
And republicans are making college less expensive? 100% percent of them oppose forgiving college loans or making tuition free for lower and middle income students. How does being denied birth control and forced to have children help women put food on the table? How does doing ZERO about floods, droughts, crop failure, hurricanes, wildfires doing ZERO about climate catastrophe and ZERO to convert America's energy sector to 21st century, how does that help you economically? How is letting women be forced to have miscarriages by doing ZERO about chemical pollution next to their homes, add up to respect for life? Vote Republican! Vote ZERO respect for life. Vote for Catastophes, mayhem instability, political violence and doing NOTHING except protecting fat cats and robbing women of their basic human dignity and freedom. Whoopie!
They're the middle class that the 87,000 IRS agents will make sure they pay their fair share of tax so that we can keep the poor people in welfare.
Do you think they will only hire degreed applicants to do all the handling, order picking, shipping/receiving, office work, supervision and machine operators? Degrees will be for technology, CAD/CAM, and new product innovation jobs.
That's not an accurate representation of the language in or prescribed implementation of the act itself.
Tim Ryan should have win this senate seat I hope he runs again
amazing that the cultist left probably think Ryan won this debate 🤣🤣
Only place to find the whole debate? Fox 🤔 Why didn’t any other network cover as much
Ryan looked uneasy and Vance looked confident .
lmao! What?!
Lolol😂 u bugging Ryan moped the floor with that religious cultist 😂
You are either a liar or wouldn't know confidence if it slapped you in the face.
Puss in boots strat right here.
Ryan has undereye circles, probably genetic or an allergy, and forehead lines from facial expression. Vance *may* have had botox - his forehead and cheeks aren't moving. Please base your decision on something more substantial than appearance.
Let's just keep talking about January 6th and maybe I won't have to answer any questions.
Wow! JD really sucks at telling the truth! And the way Trump shamed him and took his dignity at that rally the other night? No thank you!
Tim Ryan for the win!
See I didn’t see it that way at all at the rally. What I seen was trump calling jd out for what he did to him and put major pressure on him for doing that.
@@lillydon1510 You are certainly free to spin it however you want, but I thank you for validating for the rest of us that JD is Trump's puppy.
And now for the facts:
Trump - "...and then the New York Times did a fake story today, big front page that JD wasn't sure if he wanted my support. JD IS KISSING MY ASS HE WANTS MY SUPPORT!"
*crowd laughs*
Trump - "I'M 18 POINTS UP! If I was 18 points down, he wouldn't want my support..."
@@bullpuppy7455 he might be his puppet. But I do know that Tim has sucked at his job and I doubt he will do better for buckeyes if he is senator. Have you been to Tim’s district that he has represented the last twenty years?? I don’t like JD either. he just knows if trump endorsed him he will probably win. I took it at the rally that trump was saying, yah JD I know what you did, now let’s see what you will do. Trumps record the last time I checked was 198-7. Probably more now. I don’t trust either one I just know Tim has done nothing for the huge city he has represented and it’s just way worse. Then he wanted to defund the cops in it, seriously? Tim hasn’t cared about his district before so why should I believe he will care about the whole state now?
@@bullpuppy7455 you people are really clueless 😂 it's called busting balls
Why wont Ryan answer any questions?
You should try listening to the debate.
@@AvvieLanche I did, that’s why I made the comment I made. He never answers just deflects and defaults to some Chinese company he can’t even name. He clearly didn’t prepare for the debate or he has nothing he can defend.
@@AvvieLanche Even if he listened he wouldn't understand
Because he's been around for 20 years half ass'ing his job and taking dirty money. Taking whatever party line and canned insults are handed to him for his DC masters.
Damn, Vance absolutely nuked this guy in the best way possible.
Best comment! Nailed it!!! 😂 JD Vance is *SAVAGE* with truth & facts, & defending / fighting for our Constitutional values. Looks like he’s also very clearly big on draining the swamp & calling out all the politicians that are still hoping to live off the back’s off all the hard working tax-payers.. and thank the Good Lord! This is exactly the kind of men that our country at large, needs. Hopefully those in Ohio can see that too & filter through the lies & misinformation they’re constantly fed. We’re neighbors (fm Indiana) so I’m praying for the best for them, my brother & a lot of other great people I’ve met through work are there. 🇺🇸💪🏼
Vance “nuked” Ryan”. Really? Did we watch the same debate? My observations:
• There were areas where I AGREED with both candidates:
o Both were correct in saying we should take on China relative to trade, but incorrect in supporting Trump’s unilateral tariffs against China. We should have brought TPP and European countries in with us, since that would have increased our leverage against China.
o Both were correct in praising the Chips and Science Act. Ryan added the point that this law will bring a lot of jobs, including averaging $135K per year for the Intel plant to be built near Columbus.
o Both agreed to accept the results of this year’s election.
o Both candidates were strong in saying we need to be strong in siding with Taiwan relative to China.
o Both candidates said we need more money for cops.
• There were also some areas where I DISAGREED with both candidates:
o They both ignored the inconvenient fact that a result of the Trump tariffs against China and China’s retaliatory actions was that some farmers -- including in Ohio! -- who could no longer export grain to China committed suicide. Plus, we needed to pay off $28 billion to bail out big agribusiness who were also hurt by China's retaliation to the same tariffs.
o Neither candidate brought up the notion of mandatory national E-Verify, which really IS a strong method for keeping undocumented workers out of the country.
• In my view, Ryan deserves credit for:
o Correctly mentioning that the bipartisan infrastructure bill would create 600,000 jobs.
o Correctly blaming the effects of coming out of the Covid pandemic for inflation
o Supporting two natural gas electricity generation plants in his district
o Wanting to codify Roe v. Wade in law.
o Citing that Vance had said that rape was “inconvenient”.
o Claimed that Vance sided with election deniers and those who stormed the Capitol and helped raise money for their legal defense.
o Correctly claimed that Vance campaigned with Ron DeSantis, who’s looking to ban books; and also with Marjorie Taylor-Green, who he accurately called the “looniest politician in America”.
o Said we would need a “swift and significant response:” against Russia’s use of nukes in Ukraine. Added that he’s been supportive of a strong military, including voting with Trump.
o Accurate statement in saying (paraphrasing) “only JD Vance would say that a bill codifying same sex marriage isn’t about same sex marriage”.
o For SCOTS candidates, WOULD have “litmus tests” on abortion, marriage equality and birth control.
o Stated that didn’t “want politicians in bedrooms and doctors’ offices”.
o Correct in stating that can’t build a wall in the Rio Grande River, but need more technology to stop fentanyl, plus the need for comprehensive immigration reform and that said Vance was hypocritical by hiring foreign workers.
o Correct in saying that said Kamala Harris is wrong and that the Southern border is NOT secure. Plus, correctly stated the needs for more border patrol and more technology to enforce the border.
o Mentioned that voted for recent reforms to Medicare including negotiating drug prices, capping seniors’ drug prices at $2,000 per year plus $35 insulin.
o Mentioned about January 6th cops being badly abused and that Vance helped raise money for the 1/6 thugs that did that.
o Correct in pointing out that the biggest threat to elections and democracy is extremism.
o Made strong point about “guys who lack the guts to oppose their own party”. Backed that up by saying that on accession, he’s gone against Pelosi, Sanders and Biden and gone along with Trump on trade (including reforming NAFTA) and China.
o Cited that Vance wouldn’t stand up to Trump, including when Trump said “JD Vance, all you do is kiss my ass to get my support”, plus that Vance’s response to that was essentially an on-stage “kumbaya” type moment with Trump.
o Strong statement in saying that Ohio needs an “ass-kicker instead of an ass-kisser”.
• Regarding Vance (again, in my view):
o Vance blamed Biden’s borrowing for inflation. Fact: Trump borrowed $7.8 trillion, while Biden curt the deficit by 50% and only borrowed $1.4 trillion for the 2022 budget. JD, polish up on your math! Plus, he missed the far bigger picture that there’s really MANY other causes of inflation: the Federal Reserve’s failure to raise interest rates earlier; the war in Ukraine; OPEC’s, the oil industry’s and Wall Street investors (and now the Saudis) rolling back oil production; supply-chain snarls and people taking early retirements coming out of Covid.
o Vance ducked responding when Ryan claimed he opposed abortions for rape and incest cases and also ducked the issue about whether would support Lindsey Graham’s anti-abortion bill. Instead of responding about the abortion issue relative to the raped 10-yaer old, he re-framed the issue to the fact that a 10-year-old girl was raped by an illegal alien.
o Vance blames Biden for “people hating each other”. Blaming Biden? Biden is NOWHERE NEAR as divisive as Trump on issues like race, ethnicity, gender, etc.
o Claimed “nobody knows how we should respond” to nukes from Russia in Ukraine. Really? That’s BS! I GUARANTEE you there’s people in the Pentagon who have formulated multiple options on this.
o Opposed marriage equality legislation because it would threaten religious organizations. Really, I seriously doubt that! For example, these type bills always allow churches to opt out of doing gay weddings.
o Ducked question about litmus tests for SCOTUS candidates.
o Ducked responding to Ryan’s point that he helped raise legal defense money for the January 6th thugs that injured 140 cops.
o Claimed there was no reason Trump should be thrown in prison. JD really, are you paying attention? Start with the House and DoJ January 6th investigations, the Georgia election probe, Mar-a-Lago documents probe and the NY State investigations into the Trump organization.
o Didn’t respond to Ryan’s claims relative about “stolen election” BS, and the facts that Trump-inspired thugs that stormed the Capitol on January 6th and threatened to hang Mike Pence really ARE a threat to democracy.
@@TruthSage1 Your copy and paste from a rag opinion article is duly noted.
Vance rolled Ryan an there's no doubt in that. Ryan's response to everything? "A woman's right to choose!". "Trump!". "We can't have a 2nd amendment because of the ChIlDrEn!".
Ryan was on a script that EVERY senator in this year's election cycle used. Warnock, Kelly, etc. They all said the same exact thing.
You just admitted to being played, and outed yourself as a low IQ voter hahaha.
@HyperionSF You claim that I "copy and paste from a rag opinion". I'll say this politely: male bovine feces!!! I watched the debate and wrote EVERY WORD of that comment myself.
As for Ryan being on-script, which of the other Democratic candidates that you mentioned stated, for example, that (paraphrasing) Trump as having said "“JD Vance, all you do is kiss my ass to get my support”? Or, that VP Harris was wrong in saying that the Southern border is secure? None that I recall! And yes, Ryan DID make some statements that echoed other Democratic Senatorial candidates. SO WHAT? How does that make any of those statements incorrect? Duh, of course it doesn't and for the most part, they're spot on! Of course, you don't provide anything in the way of specific reasons of why you take issue with ANY of the points I brought. It's easy to insult people; any know-nothing can do that. It's a lot harder to drill down and actually write something intelligent.
And no, I wasn't "played"! I raised a whole bunch of very specific things. You on the other hand, throw out know-nothing ad hominem attacks against Tim Ryan and against me. Is that really the best that you can do?
@@TruthSage1 So when I call you out and ask you on anything specific to debate, you ignore that and basically just repeat what you already said?
Can you say "cult?
We have an inflation problem because we had EXCESS money in the economy and VASTLY REDUCED production (even PAYING people to NOT work).
So that's why China has inflation, England has inflation, France has inflation, Hungary has inflation, Kenya has inflation, Italy has inflation? I didn't realize Biden was President of all of those countries,
We have an inflation problem because corporations currently refuse to see their profits reduced in the slightest, happy to pass all of the pain onto consumers because in an economy that exclusively prizes shareholders over consumers that's how the companies keep the sacred stock price high. Record profits during high inflation and the Corporatocracy has you all convinced that consumers/workers are to blame. Stockholm Syndrome.
No immigrants to work low wage jobs so wages go up
Did he call him "honey" at 23:54?
It did sound like he did.
I thought so. That was a beastly move! An ass kissing honey!
sounded like "if i had my way you'd flood money to the southern border"
I am here because Emily Jashinky mentioned it and is keen to watch a JD Vance Tim Waltz debate. I love how JD says his opponent says meaningful things but never had a chance to put his money where his mouth is in decades in DC. Waltz is at his peak and feels invincible, let's see how much he sweats vs JD Vance
Tim Ryan is running a very good campaign and in attempting to appeal to Ohio voters
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He would have appealed more to Ohio voters if he had voted against Pelosi, Biden’s inflation
He’s really not though. He is trying to pander to people by putting his kids in commercials. It’s not a good look. And him all of a sudden wearing American flag shirts. He doesn’t care about his city or state or he wouldn’t vote for shit bills and he wouldn’t be a democrat anymore. Everyone can see their game now.
Unfortunately it’s a waste
JD did not answer how he would improve the economy. He did complain about Democrats. JD never answered how he would improve teacher and school funding as asked!
JD destroyed Ryan on the abortion issue. The Democrat position on abortion is radical not the other way around.
Have you had enough paste to eat?
He's right we need a generation change. All the old need to retire an move on. They're stuck in the past.
How many back seats are there Tim Ryan? "I'm not going to take a back seat to you. I'm not going to take a back seat to you. I'm not going to take a back seat to you. I'm not going to take a back seat to you."
He’s a career politician that gets fed stupid lines that have been polled by his stupid consultants lol
Wow… When a Republican is talking he also is lying. Be better JD Vance
Tim ryan is a joke. JD won this 👍🏼
Doesn’t answer a question only defends his image? Of course Trump would choose him 😂
How were gas prices in Ohio not mentioned? Low income families cant afford fuel to get to work let alone purchase an electric vehicle that the democrats are pushing towards in the green new deal. A bill in which Ryan voted for. JD gets my vote on that alone.
Gas prices were not mentioned because we do not live in a country where politicians do not call the shots for corporations to pump and manufacture gas. Want to blame someone, blame the corporations, and Putin's friends called OPEC.Time for you MAGAs to grow up and begin to learn how the world works.
Gas prices WERE high. They aren’t anymore. They’re also higher globally in every developed country than they are here…
@@historybuff1483 Gas prices are almost 3 times what they were when Trump was in office
@@fredbologn2344 you don’t know how gas prices work.
@@historybuff1483 HEY BOT YOU ARE DUMBER THAN A DOORNAIL. WHATS NOT HIGH? YOU MUST BE BC GAS IS 4 DOLLAR A GALLON EVERYWHERE EXCEPT WHERE THE FORGIENERS WATER IT DOWN. SMOKE SOME MORE
I support respect and civility.
Tim Ryan got smacked around like the clown that he is
There were points in the debate where Ryan had that deer-in-headlight look. Not good.
I laugh when I hear moderators talk about time. This is the United States senate. Why is time relevant?
Ryan tells the truth and lies at the same time lol and I love how Ryan tried to rail Vance with the whole trump and Vance kissing ass thing but he didn't even give all the context. He turned a joke into a lie. Typical from people like him.
Both lied gtfo here 😂
"China is stealing our jobs."
Both parties agree with this nonsense, and _no one_ ever calls them out. It is of course demonstrably false. The number of jobs that have left for China amount to a measly fraction of annual job separations (in a good year). It isn't logical to believe that you could trade with other countries and not lose any jobs, and it's even more unreasonable to support a no-trade policy. Secondly, import restrictions raise the costs of our exports, which destroys far more jobs than foreign import competition.
One of the problems here is that both parties are economically illiterate, and voters aren't any wiser.
Trump lost
By a lot
Trump isn't on the ballot try again
@@CornPopodopolis thank god he isn’t looking forward to that matching - orange jump suit to match he orange ego go Tim
Trump’s hand picked people ain’t doing so well.
@@CornPopodopolis but the people who lost won’t admit that he lost. And now, according to a Gallup poll, 40% of republican voters will claim fraud if they lose. BEFORE the election. Trump lost. Say it
well ryans a little bit of a flip flopper
Portman was so moderate a "true Rino", Tim Ryan is a looser for Ohio.