Sidecar with iPad as monitor without any dongles!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video I show you how to boot up and use your ipad as a monitor without using a monitor at all. Great for taking your M1 machines on the GO!
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Thank you! I love the Apple ecosystem, too! It's odd that Apple doesn't talk about these abilities. You are so nice.
Right?! Thanks for the comment!
Sick, thanks so much for the info. Looking into the ghost hdmi next. If i can get sidecar working with an ad-hoc network between the iPad and Studio, my setup will be complete
That sounds sick! Nice!
Start at 2:19
Thank You.. I'll try it.
Hope it works out for you!
6:07 To be fair, although I’m not an Android or Windows user nor fan, I’m sure the Android/Windows combination allows for way less restricted coupling of a tablet as the only screen. Apple probably just does not want you to do this, because of aesthetic or marketing reasons.
Thanks for the video! 💜
True that!
I have used my android tablet as monitor for my Mac Mini. The only thing is that it is just that... an external monitor @ low resolution.
The iPad pro not only has a higher resolution (than MY android tablet), but also has so many other additional features: like using the iPad's Camera, Microphone, Multi-Touch support for scrolling, zooming and clicking, support for the apple pencil and a shortcut bar on the side of the iPad for macOS hotkeys.
So that's the advantage of the locked down ecosystem of Apple. It can be annoying and frustrating at times, but sometimes rewarding! Cheers!
@@jpr-tech Thanks for mentioning all that!
@@jpr-tech can you use the case keyboard on the iPad for your keyboard? I have a Logitech touch combo on my iPad Pro & was hoping I could do just that.
@@jpr-techthis is exciting, What was your setup for mac mini with the android tab?
Thanks for the info. Everything worked except for the keyboard shortcut. No matter how many times I changed the custom key shortcut in the keyboard preferences, nothing happens when I hit them. I'm running MacOs Big Sur with the iPadOS 17 on an iPad Mini 6. The iPad worked as a third monitor on my 3 monitor setup. It only switches to the iPad as primary monitor when I activate it manually on the primary displays. Any ideas?
You're welcome! For me I can only make it work without any monitor if I have a window (any program will do) but personally I just have FINDER open at login. Only when selecting a window will the shortcut work. If I have NO windows selected, it will not work.
I don't know about why it doesn't activate as primary display automatically, but it could the bug I was just telling you about 'having a FINDER window open" to make the shortcut work.
For some reason after upgrading to iPadOS, this shortcut method is not working properly.
This is just a work around for now.
Another thing that made things much easier is to just use a dummy HDMI dongle. It tricks the Mac to thinking there's already a monitor connected and automatically mirrors the dongle at only 1080p, but it works pretty well for me.
Thank you for sharing! I'm gonna try this
Thanks, that's awesome! Enjoy it! There's nothing like this elsewhere.
I just used this combo on Starbucks and it was funny seeing some people's reaction at me pulling out a full desktop in a coffee shop! 😅
@@jpr-tech At first, it kinda didn't work the way I imagined. But then it booted up! Phew! What a saviour, thank you so much!
@@onemanbandindia 😆 I know what you mean. Sometimes it takes a couple of times to press the key combo for it to start up the iPad. Let’s hope with the new continuity feature in macOS Ventura this could be implemented easier. 👏🏼
Could this work with a headless MacBook Air? Would be amazing, the best of both worlds.
Only if the MacBook Air is an M version.
If intel, you'll need a paid app such as "Duet" to get something similar to this.
Muchísimas gracias
De nada, gracias a ti por tu comentario.
This is an incredible hack. It worked! It is incredible that this solution is not widely known.
However, in my setup, it only worked with HDMI dummy dongle plugged in. I am using a base model M2 Mac Mini + M2 11" iPad Pro. If I try to extend the monitor to the iPad without anything plugged in the HDMI port, it gives an error message on the Mac "Unable to connect to the iPad" (ot something like that). The error message can be seem once I plug the Mac Mini back into the normal monitor.
I know right, this is such a useful "hack". But I think Apple may have crippled this feature so that it only works with a HDMI dummy dongle. Before (I forgot the macOS version) it was working flawlessly, and then an update came and I lost the ability.
We are pretty much stuck with the HDMI dongle.
*Another free method is to use "Duet" app to connect and then you'll be able to see the macOS environment on your iPad, therefor allowing you to turn ON Sidecar and use that instead of the connection with Duet (much more fluent with Sidecar > Duet). Thanks again for the feedback ❣️
@@jpr-tech Thanks for pointing out how to do it with Duet. However, is Duet free?
What is an HDMI dummy dongle?
@@jpr-tech
does it work with the HDMI dummy dongle, i have MacOS Ventura and a M2 Mac mini paried with iPad pro. Please help :)
Mine works flawlessly.
Thanks for sharing this, it's much clearer than the other video
Glad it helped. Thanks for the feedback.
Hi, congratulations for the video!
Unfortunately it doesn't work for me! I would like to ask you for support in connecting my iPad Pro 12.9 M1 with a Mac Mini Pro M2.
I've done all the steps you said but the iPad screen doesn't show the Mac Mini desktop.
Let me start by saying that I connect the iPad and Mac Mini with a USB-C / USB-C cable and the charging symbol is present.
When I reconnect the lcd screen to the Mac Mini I see that the iPad is connected to the Mac Mini as if I were using sidecar and it shares everything correctly. By detaching the HDMI cable from the Mac Mini screen, the iPad returns to showing its apps and not sharing.
I also tried using an adapter and connecting iPad and Mac with HDMI but nothing.
I hope I have explained myself... could you help me in some way?
PS isn't it possible to do this anymore with the new systems?
Yes, Apple has been clamping down on this "useful BUG" and it looks like it is trying to avoid us from using the Mac mini as a portable machine. The best WORK AROUND is to get a "Dummy HDMI adapter". That small dongle fools the iPad into thinking it is connected to a monitor and then the shortcut to start SideCar and add a display WORKS!
Fortunately, the dongle is cheap. So, if you are gonna be working outside often with your mini, it is worth the purchase.
thxxxx
I was really hoping i could get this to work.
I have a M2Pro Mac Mini and Airpad Air 5th gen. Mac Mini connected to iPad with a USBc cable. The only difference i can can tell is that the Max Mini OSX is Ventura 13.31 where the system preferences has completely changed to look more like the settings on an iPad..so not everything is identical.
Good with auto log on....no issues there.
Couldn't get the Short cut to work. Wrote the side car wording down identical to what it looked like in the finder window. When i press the shortcut....i just hear a click. I know side car works as i can mirror the screen to my iPad when i do it through finder....just won't work through a short cut. Another thing.....i have to rely this with my main screen plugged in to the HDMI ( as i cant get the short cut working ) but for some reason when i remove the HDMI from my main monitor, i also lose the feed going to the iPad.
Gremlins.
Anyone know if this hack works with the latest OSX?.
Thank you for the feedback. It wasn't too long ago that Apple crippled this hack, but it still works if you have an HDMI dummy dongle. They are really cheap in amazon or eBay, and that makes the shortcut key work again.
@@jpr-tech I got the HDMI dummy dongle but I still get the sound like the user above mentioned when I use the keyboard shortcut
After the latest update, i'm unable to load up sidecar directly. It shows me an error -500. Did you face the same issue?
Yes! I have been suffering from this issue as well. Even though I don’t usually get an error, the iPad screens goes to the Lock Screen. Then the Face ID screens pops up, but never unlocks.
I resorted to using Duet which does the same thing, but you’ll need the app installed on both the Mac & iPad. Fortunately, it’s free.
Starting the Duet app up, brings up the side car screen and everything is back to normal. Just remember to add Duet to the login apps on your Mac.
Sucks, but hopefully a fix will come soon.
The apps of Duet are free, but if I’m not mistaken Duet only offers paid plans, or a basic plan with a 10 minutes limit per day 😢. Or am I overlooking something?
@@jpr-tech or anyone: In Ventura, can you try enabling "Automatically reconnect to any nearby Mac or iPad" in System Settings → Displays → Advanced, to see if it helps? Also please verify that "Wake for network access" is enabled in Settings → Energy Saver
Please tell me if this works. I have no iPad for now but am considering buying one.
EDIT: the first setting above is from "Universal Control" which is controlling your iPad screen from your Mac trackpad and keyboard. However here we want to do the other way around, i.e. control the Mac UI from the iPad, so it may not work. Somehow the second setting may be closer to a solution, but it seems that Wake on LAN is broken in macOS Ventura for now (?) as some people say magic packets do not awake their Mac anymore.
Does the keyboard shortcut still work in Ventura?
( struggling to make it happen 😢 )
Following.. doesn’t work for me either.
Still not working... but sometimes it does work. I think it's a bug that needs fixing. If another monitor or a HDMI dummy dongle is plugged in the HDMI port, the shortcut does work.
Yep, still no go... you'll need a dummy HDMI dongle plugged in the HDMI port and then it does work.
@@jpr-tech which command are you using? I tried with the Mac mini connected to a screen and didn't work. I'm waiting the emulator dongo arrives and try again.. but still no luck here :/
@@Franzuccato how did the emulator dongle work, im trying to figure out what the best way to fix this is
So if I want it to work under Venture I need an hdmi dongle on the mini or studio and a cable to connect the iPad. And then follow the instruction in the video. No need for Duet or other software.
Am I correct?
That's correct, and here's hoping there is an update that fixes this problem.
@@jpr-tech thanks and I agree
I simulated the workaround using a Ventura MacBook and input peripherals… to me it seems to work without a cable.
Why do you need a cable?
@ could you please share what you did to make it work? Here still doesn’t work… I was about to revert the system to previous OS but that means I’ll have issues with a lot of the apps I have there (like Photoshop and the other Adobe ones)..😢
@ what does this mean exactly?
Will this work Mac Mini M2 + iPad 9th Gen? no keyboard or mouse? I basically want to use Mac OS in tablet mode.
As of now, a keyboard is needed to initiate the keyboard shortcut to start sidecar.
There might be some paid apps such as Duet App that might allow that, but I can not verify that.
I have an M1 Mac mini running ventura and I bought the HDMI headless dongle and it works UNTIL i reboot. Once I reboot and use my shortcut key it just makes the little noise and does not move the output to the video. For those who have it working on Ventura what settings do I need to adjust for the HDMI headless display dongle?
That's strange, is working for me... and I haven't done anything special in the system settings.
Try changing the keyboard shortcut sequence. For example, my shortcut key combo is HOLD the: Command + Option + Shift + P
and that turns my iPad into the mini's screen and desktop environment pops up.
No one knows what the HDMI headless dongle is how about putting in a link instead of expecting people to know?
@@jpr-tech
Is this feature still working? can you give any idea how to do that cz in new version of mac os, i'm unable to find it. Thanks
Can u tell how to do that with hdmi dummy?
As of now (Ventura 13.5 & iPadOS 16.5.1) YES! Still works, but I'm using a safety net, that is a Dummy HDMI dongle.
Sure, love to update this video since I'm getting quite a few questions about it. Thank you!
does ipad have to be plugged in to the mac mini at the beginning?
Thank you for watching. And yes, so far that is the only I get it to work from a fresh boot.
what cable to you need to connect ipad to mac mini?
Any USB-C cable will do. I use a generic USB-A -> USB-C cable. Can’t go wrong with the Apple cable that comes with your iPad.
Isn’t Sidecar wireless?
super
Thanks!
mac mini can be run with 9th gen ipad?
Sure the 9th gen iPad can works with SideCar.
All iPads from the 6th gen + can be used as Monitors. 😉
Thank you because I just wanted his video but needed help!
Thank you!
Is it still work in macOS Ventura 13.1? I tried but failed.
Still works, but gotta do a funky workaround, such as use "Duel" app in iOS to see the M1, fix "Sidecar" and then restart DUEL app and it should start in Sidecar.
But a quicker easier fix, is just to plug a DUMMY HDMI adapter (got mine used for $2) and that tricks the M1 to think there is a monitor and for some odd reason the shortcut key works!!!
@@jpr-tech THX!!
Does the HDMI “enable” the keyboard shortcut? (doesn’t make sense lol)
I couldn’t get this keyboard shortcut working in Ventura.
Nifty trick! I hope this still works with Ventura.
It is still working but not as reliable. Sometimes when the screen falls a sleep it doesn't want to wake up and connect. Which causes a crash with sidecar.
Fortunately, the free app Duet in ipadOS allows me to see the mac's screen and then that triggers sidecar and works as normal.
Something to keep in mind.
@@jpr-tech Great tip, I'm going to try Duet. I just installed Ventura, and despite I have a ghost HDMI-dongle (which fakes an attached display) I'm experiencing the issue you described.
cant it be done with the ipad Magic Keyboard Folio?
Thank you for the question, but I believe it might not be possible... because we need to wake up the M1 and press the hot key shortcut to trigger sidecar into connecting with the iPad.
Now, it is possible to share the iPad's keyboard and pointer with a Mac, but whether the iPad's keyboard actually goes to the Mac and then have the shortcut key work??? I have no idea.
But it is worth the try! I'll have to give that a shot, I'll report back when I do.
Cheers.
@@jpr-tech Nice, I know that once sidacar in on, the ipad magic keyboard folio it does recognize and keayboard and works fine, and so does the trackpad althought this one mimics touchscreen display functionality is not an actual mousse. It would be nice if keyboard folio could start the sidecar, I dont know why it shouldnt, if ipad keyboard folio can be used in apple univarsal control to be able to type in both devices, it should be able to conect to your mac even before sidecar is engaged (i want to bevlieve! 😅)
Can I use the mini with my laptop as a monitor?
Depends on the laptop. I think Sidecar is only natively supported with M1/2 devices.
But with an app called "Duet" on your iPad and ANY intel Mac will work as well.
@@jpr-tech hi.. thanks for your response. I have an MacBook Pro from 2018x. Thanks
In My mac mini m2 and iPad 8th generation, when I unplug the hdmi cable the sidecar stops working :/
Before you unplug the HDMI, make sure you are in mirror display and that the iPad monitor is the main display.
Then try unplugging the HDMI.
Hope this works! Cheers
can i use ipad as only one monitor?
Yes! But you'll need a "Dummy" HDMI adapter for it to work properly.
If We dont set up Mac mini , can we use İPad PRO as a monitor to set up Mac mini?😊
I'm afraid not. You'll need to have signed in to the Mac mini and have sidecar setup with a set shortcut key. That would be a nice feature to have, right?!
@@jpr-tech Yes it is! But at least, for a while, after bought a new mac mini, I dont want to buy a monitor, I want to use my Ipad Pro. Isn't it possible even with a cable?
after many try it does not work for me (monterey)
So sorry to hear that. What could it be? 😣
I'm unable to show my system preferences as a series of Icons like at 2:27 in the video. Instead it's a list of icons on the left side. Using ventura, Mac Mini M2
Sorry for the late response. The latest macOS changed the system settings layout, but you can still search for "app shortcuts". You can still access the settings that way.
Doesn't work with current OS versions, starting to think apple is going out of its way to prevent using the Ipad in this way
I know! Sucks, right?! But the work around is to use a dummy HDMI dongle. It's working flawlessly for me with the dongle on. Cheers.
@@jpr-tech which one do you use?
I just added a hdmi dongle - works well again
iPad alone does not work anymore
Yep, it's a bug that needs fixing with an update. Hope we get it sooner than later.
hello, does just with an ipad still not work? does the dongle fix this problem?
@@waltron yea you need the 8$ hdmi dongle
We should just be able to usbc to usbc plug a Mac Mini into an ipad and it works immediately.. why doesnt Apple just do these things.. and it all works with the Magic Keyboard
I know! That is a great idea! Here is to wishful thinking, hoping that Apple has a heart and allows this.
@@jpr-tech their sales are tanking because they don't do things like this, the more useful in the most diverse ways tech can be, the more likely people will find uses for it
nah it does not work... :(
Sorry to hear that.