Hellraiser Breakdown - All 9 Movies Discussed (Part 1 of 3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 เม.ย. 2015
- We decide to watch ALL 9 Hellraiser movies, and in the process get caught up in it's universe and all associated lore. Join as we laugh, cry (because of pain), and rejoice in all things Pinhead. Part 1 of 3 (it goes really long).
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The Doctor's best line in part 2 is after we see him as a cenobite the first time he says "To think, I hesitated."
They explore the sensations of the flesh. It's all about the flesh with them, ripping it apart to see whats inside, what holds it together. Finding new ways to reconfigure the flesh, like an artist creating monsters each one more horrific than the last.
If anyone is still watching this they actually start talking about the movies at 12:35 mins
The scene where Chatterer shoves his fingers in Kirsty's mouth: I read somewhere that the actor playing Chatterer, because he couldn't see, actually skinned the roof of the actresses mouth. So you see a real expression of pain flash across her face for a second and she just kept acting.
I'm pinching my butt at the thought of someone's fingernails scraping the roof of my mouth...ugh
Alpha Rookie
Yeah, after the scene cuts away to Pinhead and cuts back the Chatterer actor had readjusted his fingers, probably so she wouldn't be in pain anymore. I presume they had to stop for a moment after the take where she got skinned >_>
I love hearing you guys talk about horror. Brings a little calm to my day. Keep doing this please!
Pinhead: Explorers from another region, demons to some, angels to others.
Its "explorers in the further regions of experience: demons to some, angels to others."
cenobites and the god hand?
Not sure if it was touched upon in the comments or not but in Hellraiser 2 originally was her father in hell but they could not get the actor to come back so they turned it into Frank instead but yes it regionally was her father that was in hell that she was rescuing but Andrew the actor could not come back and would not come back so they turned it into Frank instead and created another story around that at the last second
The third one had a subtitle of "Hell On Earth".
One is pretty good; the sequel is gross-but-entertaining nonsense and the rest are shit.
There, finished.
+Chazbot I'll defend 8 as a fun horror movie with very little Hellraiser, but worth watching. Other than that, you got it. Except 5 is so fucking weird that it should be watched too.
The first Hellraiser is a classic and so is Hellseeker and Deader. While Bloodline is bad, in my opinion it produced some of the greatest one liners produced in film history. Hellbound might be gross, but its still a good sequel.
Kodanikage ... I liked "Inferno" because too it was offered on DVD! #1(Hellraiser),#2 (Hellbound),#4 (Bloodline) and #6 (Inferno) are in my DVD collection! Walmart electronics doing 80s and 90s horror with the complete "Nightmare on Elm Street series ... but I skipped boring ones there too with only the the first then 4 and 5 before Final Nightmare and Freddy vs Jason buys) really saved my wallet on the rest! I don't really miss any of the others (even #7 Deader as a bootleg download still in my archives)!
pinheads name might be a layover from the book (& early scripts for film too) in book his nearest equivalent had pins, but on film nails probably fit better.
i swear i always come back to these just to listen about hellraiser lol thanks guys!
When they inevitably make more, we'll watch and talk.
Funny thing about Larry (in 1) is that he is the psycho perp from Dirty Harry and what's more: He's Garak from ST:DS9!
(he's been in tons of stuff, check his massive imdb list)
I saw Hellraiser Bloodline in 1997. Up until last week that was the only installment I had ever watched. I recently watch the first Hellraiser on Hulu, only THIRTY YEARS after it was in theaters :)
And also in her razor to it's kind of implied but if you watch it carefully the little girl Tiffany is not mute she becomes mute after her mom gets captured because she actually screams mommy when she is being taken away so it's just kind of implied that after that he's keeping her medicated or something to that effect and therefore mute
+Ryan "RyN834" Melanson Her mom being taken away causes psychological trauma that results in her being a mute. That's a real thing, so I'd wager it's just that.
No he captured her so he killed her mom he made her mute via psychological trauma he needed a kid obsessed with puzzles so she would solve the box
I've seen all nine. The first five are great. I love Hellraiser
Why would you commit to this without knowing Larry Cotton's (one of the main protagonists) name? Like..jot some notes down before turning the mic on?
Also, Kirsty is in 4 of the movies.
+Justin Iadonisi did we say otherwise? It's been a long time. She's in 1,2,3,and 6 if I recall off the top of my head.
I thought that frank was in Morroco, look at his finger nails with the hash underneath them
Was that hash? I just thought he was a dirty b@stard.
lol I've seen all the Hellraiser movies. I got into it in high school and watched them all on Netflix back then like 8 years ago. I've also seen all the Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Scream, Child's Play, Leprechaun, Pumpkinhead, Candyman, Wrong Turn, and who knows what else horror movies. They are mostly all bad except for the first few of each or so lol. None of these series are as much an adventure in masochism as a marathon as Star Wars: The Clone Wars though. That's 121 episodes about 22 minutes long on average. It's almost 45 hours of garbage.
+XuntosIzor it's been fun so me the marathons. It never know sometimes you discover gems you wouldn't have otherwise.
Ya'll missed a few things in this review. In the first movie Kirsty after she confronts Frank in the attic, she sees her dad's dead skinless body. In the second movie, Channard finds out about the mattress through Kirsty and that is why he has it delivered to his home. Channard is the one, who as the head of the psych facility, after hearing kirsty's story decides she needs to be admitted so he can hear the full story. As far as Kirsty's dad, there's a slight inference in the movie when Kirsty tells Pinhead she came for her father. The Cenobites start laughing and Pinhead says that he is in his own hell. I think it's an indirect reference to the book lore of Hellraiser in that there are different hells, with the labrynth being only one.
so will you guys watch the wish master films?
+apex2000 I'm sure we'll get to it at some point. Lot of it has to do with how available all the movies are, money, etc
+Alpha Rookie broke Bitches
Well the first movie was
"come to daddy" is from the book, it's not improv.
Good to know, it's one of those wonderful gross things that feels like it could have just been an off the cuff kind of thing. Guess it was well planned out instead. Thanks for the info.
'Jesus wept' was ad-libbed. Not 'Come to Daddy'.
Kuro Wanwan Yeah, I think originally Kirsty wasn't the daughter. But when they came to adapt it to a film, it worked better to change her to the daughter, so that the line would sound incestuous and wrong.
I think Julia is the baddie in 1. 'Looks like Natalie Portman"? What movie were you watching? Kirstie kinda looks like a young, non fat Kirstie Alley. Maybe that's why you pronounce her name that way
after 4, it seems they went with psychological horror , " you create your own hell in your mind , thoughts " than the typical body horror, " gore ".
Well that's cheaper for sure. I'm sure budget plays a part. If you watch our video on the comics, you can see those stories went that way with it sometimes too. I still maintain the worst thing to happen to the series was to pin (pun intended) the whole series on pinhead. The cool thing about the original series and film was the Lovecraftian aspect. One of the most imagination-capturing moments is when the cenobites first define themselves as "explorers." And the monsters of course (hallway monster, flying monster at the end). And the homeless, bug guy who is never explained. Mystery, unfathomable darkness, deals with the other side, and so on should have been the driving force.
3 is hell on earth and 6 is hellseeker, with Ashley Laurence
They are pins not nails.
What about the tenth? Hellraiser Judgement
This was recorded years ago, before there was a tenth film. But, when Hellraiser Judgment came out, we did a discussion on it all by itself: th-cam.com/video/BLDBGAbemhM/w-d-xo.html
Is death the 4th dimension? From part 2, I want to discuss that. What's the matter? you don't want to discuss a topic related to death? Ohh, I see, ,, You don't want to think about death, ,, ,,, or dying.. Oh come now, you must be curious, how it feels to exist outside of your shell, no pulse, ,, heartbeat, no breathing, sight or sound?
They're saying hellraiser is the pioneer...but they definitely was influenced by lovecraft definitely
I love 1&2 and liked the Captain Elliott Spencer aspect of 3 but the rest were a waist.
how is the first set in UK then in the second the cops in the beginning are yanks with guns lol
Interesting observation, need to go back and see that.
@@AlphaRookie I've heard it stated in some documentary footage that it was a conscious decision to change the setting to the US for the sequel and try to retcon the first film into being set in the US, despite looking more like the UK than a Mike Leigh film.
1, 2 & 4 the best, the rest were garbage unfortunately, as it is a very cool concept
I fucking LOVE! Hellraiser 1, 2 and 3, I really like 4.... Then 5-9 were just... Eh, number 10 was the only one worth watching since number 4 in my opinion.
Fans gave pinhead his name. That was never initially his name in the stories or the original film :)
+Crypt Horror I think I remember watching a Doug Bradley interview where he said they didn't know Pinhead was going to be what the fans ended up liking the most and totally steered the sequels to incorporate more of him. And I think he mentioned it's funny Pinhead was the name he got since they are actually nails in his head.
+Alpha Rookie pretty much! This is chad by the way 😀
+Crypt Horror I thought so when I looked at the name and picture. I miss you.
+Alpha Rookie dude. you guys are awesome. i just found you
+Crypt Horror That is true. In the end credits of the first movie he is known as Lead Cenobite.
Wait, I thought they turned back to humans after the doctor attacks and kills them.
+EliasXtreme1 they do, they die but in their human form instead of ad a cenobite. What did we say happened?
that they turn human and then the doctor kills them
+EliasXtreme1 went back and watched it. The Cenobites turn human after the doctor kills them, BUT, Pinhead gets turned human BEFORE he gets killed. That must have set the confusion. It's a little bit of both
So we were both right and wrong. Haha. Ok thanks for the clarity.
+EliasXtreme1 no problem, we always welcome corrections, especially when it's something we spent so many hours with, it's easy to forget something or mis-remember.
just found this im a occult nerd only three sides were used in the movie the jewish belief side the other 3 sides were to close the open doors
The Witchcraft series make the Hellraiser series look like LOTR. Dare you to do those films.
really? I'm going to look it up. thanks
alot of the Hellraiser are good... as where NONE of the witchcraft movies are....
The movie is a metaphor for drugs addiction. Let's argue
Okay, my argument is you're not wrong! It could actually act as a metaphor for any addiction.
clive barker needs to hand the IP over to another company and allow the reboot to happen.
time to make a hipster but true comment: the book was better.
HIPSTER!
Alpha Rookie
But true XD
Rather than just being about bdsm, I've read quite a bit that Hellraiser (at least the first one and the book) is about safe sex and STD's.
you guys are nauseating
+doomjammer Thank you for the compliment.
alpha rookie you guys are a slapstick yankee joke, I honestly went into this video expecting an in depth analysis of hellraiser and got a pair of jamokes jerking each other off
+doomjammer Jamokes we are not. But thanks for the kind words of encouragement!
In all honesty, we watched the movies and talked about them and our reaction. Sorry that's not what you wanted. Maybe you'd like our scripted content covering comics/novels/film instead.
You guys talk over each other way too much. Get to the fricken point about each movie already.
not impressed - Hellraiser 3 is Hell on Earth
as a fan of the unknown I would like you guys to stop being scrubs about the movies -- watching it at a faster speed? brutal.
+D Klupsch You ever see someone do a hot pepper challenge? They chew and swallow as fast as possible because they know it's gonna hurt and suck? Same principle with a lot of this series
not buying it - born in 1984 - I used to go to Jumbo Video where they had a horror section and I used to get my visuals from the back of the box.. My dad watched them back in the day and Hellraiser has always been cool to me. I think on the back of Hellraiser 2 : Hellbound you see the dude pull his skin off his face and it was weird to me. When the scene came out back in the day my dad just said to hide behind the couch - I did. But I peeked up.. I have a long history of interest in this series and I think how you guys are going about this is taking away from the actual flick.
+D Klupsch We didn't watch these as a yearning for classic horror, we did it as an exercise in ridiculousness. 9 movies of cheap direct to video horror. And really it was only to understand the universe of Pinhead so we'd be able to understand the Hellraiser comics more. At the time it was all sort of a big joke, so going through that much movie time was too much. But as time went on and we talked about them more, we've come to actually like it a lot more. That doesn't mean there's still not definitely boring parts worth speeding up though. Also, lot of the movies aren't even Hellraiser movies, they were scripts for other movies that were changed to make them into Hellraiser. So it's not like the filmmakers gave much consideration or care either. Some are good, some are bad, and some were trash.
alright man - I get ya
I'll chime in, the first two were good but the real goody is inferno.