In 1989 I was a freshman in high school. Back when people would beat you up to steal your shoes or starter jacket/pullover. I had these in 89. Materials and construction can evolve over 30 years. Jordan 3,4,5 and 6 are the only ones I collect. To me these are the best styles ever. All in all they did a good job on the 2019 pair.
I’m 53 years old, the 89 OG had the hard, thick plastic Nike Air hang tag, also had the ball chain, I still have one OG tag from my 89’s, back then I’d put them on my keychain. As far as the seams showing grey predominant lines back then when they were new they did not show super, after wearing them they seemed to be more pronounced, at least from my recollection, this material on the 2019 seems a bit thinner and doesn’t show much initially, maybe over time it will become more pronounced with wearing them routinely.
Facts 💯, on what you said. The Nike Air was a three-dimensional piece of plastic. I'm 45 and I had them back in 89 and I was in 6 or 7th grade but I didn't even have the real man's OG I had the junior size for like $89, instead of the men's which was $109-$120 then we had Nike air on the back but it wasn't three dimensional like the men's size. I own a bunch of bred retros now but the 1989 real one is so rare in decent shape.
Yep, th-cam.com/video/7LRTgJ4GToU/w-d-xo.html My thoughts exactly. I had these also in 11th grade and vividly remember the hard plastic tag with the ball and chain. LOL, I did the same thing also. I got my drivers license in Summer 1989 and that handtag was on my car keys! 😁
Learn a lot of stuff from watching some of his videos, you rarely find ppl nowadays who are actually passionate Jordan heads who know they history and lure. We have hype beast than actual Jordan heads
Wow! You did it! You found the 89 original for the comparison! Great, great, great review here! This has been my favorite shoe since 1989. I've actually worn and played in an 89 pair and I can tell you it was so light compared to shoes of that time. The sole was really responsive and there were no issues of material or construction problems in that Era that I remember. When the black released it sold out immediately cause it was a playoff shoe. The white cement stayed on the shelf and the white red which came out to our city that summer. The military blue people complained about cause it didn't go with the Bulls uniform but it looked so good. It was such a different design than anything else people were wearing that it stood out. All except for the 89 high and low flight shoes with the same sole. Thank you for going above and beyond with this review! I really appreciated it.
Another big difference they've unfortunately missed every time since 99 is the shine on the netting. OG and 99 have that stickier finish that picks up light hitting it, instead of just the dull matte netting they continued with on 19. Always reminded me of a metal fence you'd see at hoop playgrounds
I had that shoe. Bro that shoe caught on late. People were not feeling it at first. It was just dedicated jordan fans. Then buy the summer it was a frenzy. Nike dropped sum dope flight jordan gear that year also... One of the reason it caught on was black became a dope color to ROCK. This is when NWA was hitting hard and RAIDERS starter gear was poppin.
Whenever they remaster a shoe it should be so close to the original you can hardly tell the difference besides the age. But Jordan is exceptionally Lazy -Boxed toe area -No white Lining -Overall shape The approach is like they don’t know much about the original 😒🤷🏾♂️✌🏾
Holy hell MJO. No one else is capable of providing us with this comparison. This video was needed to show the new gen exactly why older heads are disappointed in the 2019. THANK YOU.
I still have my 89 OG pair. To answer your question the 89 pair came with the hard thick clear and orange tag. The lighter all orange tag actually came with the Nike Flights or Flight 89s back in the day. The Flights Scottie Pippen wore and the have the same midsole and soles as the J 4s. Once again great Video my man!
Cool to see the OG original from 30 years ago. Im getting my 2019's today I bought off Goat. I like your content you make. Its nice to get the "story" of one of the most iconic sneakers out there!
After looking at the 2012 black cement release the lines are so much sleeker and have just a better overall shape of the shoe compared to the 2019. The black phylon mud guard the wraps around the heel of the shoe has more of a linear angle (which is true for earlier retro 4 releases) that meets the grey outrigger piece of the outsole. I like how the black mud guard doesn't slope downward as it approaches the grey lateral outrigger of the shoe on the 2012 pair. It seems as time progresses with the 4's the start look more and more like they are bootlegged. I understand that subtle changes are made to distinguish the progression but at this point they are too drastic in my opinion.
Had several of these in 89, my 6th grade year, the A or the I would fall off after so long, the R always stood strong for some reason, but when they relaunched in 99, omg, I was ecstatic, pure nostalgia, more so than 88's (3's) that came back out in 94, my fav Jordan besides the 85's (1's), we didn't flip the tongue and neither did Jordan, I attended most of his games, Chicago Stadium ish...upside done just made the sneaker official, no bootlegs back then unless you rocked XJ1000's from payless or Stadiums from Kinnys Shoe store, you'd get bulleyed out back then...
I have an OG 89 pair of BRED sz.12. The uppers look pretty good, some cracking. The midsoles are crust just like your pair. Bottoms look good still have wear left. I plan on restoring them with midsole replacement from Flight 89 or something similar. The two things about the OGs is the tongue and the insoles. The tongue on the OGs is rounded more where the 99s were squared, that really pissed me off! I always hated that and I got rid of my 99s a couple years ago when they started to fall apart. The insoles on the OG IVs & Vs were squishy, I always loved that when I had Vs back in 1990. The 99s didnt have that shit, I don't know about the new ones. I would consider getting the 19s, just because of what they are and how cool the look...I just want to restore the OGs...the insoles are still squishy and I used to wear them sometimes about 15 years ago...the shoes are priceless glad I never sold them...
Been talking about this since the beginning of the week and it’s finally here. Those 89s were incredible and felt ahead of it’s time. Fast forward 30 years later and the design is now timeless. Great review Marvin! Michael Jordan made history in these and now wear history with your 2019 pairs!
I always always always look forward to these videos. I love them so much. As I sneaker head I love seeing videos of my favorite shoes, but also comparing them to the previous versions. Just so dope I get to watch someone create this content!
You are a true collector and a passionate collector man! Its tough to have real knowledge as well as historical actual reference and memories of the shoes in the modern sneaker enthusiast space. Your vids are definitely my go to bible in learning the historical reference as I only started collecting 2 years back and for nostalgia, I didn't even release when I was in secondary school, I had my first Jordan 5 red fire with the 23 on the side, 1990, when I was 14... until I started adding Jordan into my collection last year and that was my first true collector memory rather than just aesthetic and design value. Continue the great work man with these fantastic comparison vids and great to know the details changes as always though each iterations.
Thank you for the support Gilbert. The book I featured in the video gives better perspective of the Air Jordans we love and from the words of designer Tinker Hatfield. I think you’ll enjoy it. You can find a copy in my Amazon store in the description of the video. It’s called Driven From Within. It’s worth it. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@mjo23dan Thanks for the recommendation man. Just brought the kindle version to read and waiting for a hard copy to arrive. Having has a few flip, already like some of the images of Ali/Jordan, a shot of all the Jordans in a circle, and earlier on, insight to the Nike & Jordan meeting. "I did not want to go to the Nike meeting" "I didn't know Nike" "I didn't think I like Nike" Can't wait to read the Tinker inspiration and Jordan relationship. Going to enjoy this read for sure!
Always look forward to your comparison videos💯 I wish JB would've given us the white outline on the durabuck an the OG shape but I'm still happy with the 2019s✌🏿
The fours on do the right thing were actually a PE with the colorful lace lock on the front and LS holes instead of the caging in front and around the laces
Great comparison post! I can't believe I just scored a pair of these same 2019 Breds with actual box from my Vegas Nike Outlet just 2 weekends ago!! I just about died! I don't really wear Jordans but I always wanted a pair of Breds so I could be 1 and done...it matches everything I wear! Still had to pay retail of $200 but the lucky lot of us that managed to cop a pair (they had totally random sizes) were flabbergasted! So was the Nike crew manager! He got them that morning by the end of the day they were SOLD OUT!
I wish JB would've kept the black midsole linear as it slants toward the midfoot outrigger. The 4's midsole lines have drastically changed since the '99 release let alone the originals from '89. Even the midfoot outrigger's peak dont have complementary angles on both sides of them. The side of the outrigger's peak on the side of the toe is abrupt and not gradual like the opposite side. Those little things always stand out for me in terms of the changes that have taken place since the original release.
Surprise you didn't point out the ankle collar shape or the padding on them. Seems like the newer models look more low top in comparison to the older models.
Great review. I remember these releasing in 89 and dribbling when I got my pair of OG fire reds. The OG cut is just better. The 99 were closest though.
The one outstanding feature of the black cement 4 are the grayish white accents from the cuts on the nubuck. It gave the shoe accents not provided on the 2019 release. It may not seem like much but it gave the shoe depth. It's kind of the reason why I copped the "Dunk from Above" 4's....great vid!
I was 9 years old when these came out and a friend of mine had these and I distinctly remember him flipping the tongue forward to show all of us that they were "AIR JORDAN'S". An awesome memory. My mom could not afford these when I was a kid which is part of the big reason why I collect now.
One other comment the toe box on the OG pair was originally actually more like the 2019 pair when they were new. The toe box would actually flatten out from the wear and tear on the shoe. That’s why it looks like it angles back on the 89 pair in your video. So they actually did a great job on the toe box shape.
Compared to photos and other videos I’ve seen, the shape and toe slant of the OG is much more sleek compared to today’s retros. Something that the brand has moved away from over the years.
just found your channel. I subscribed because, you are real, you are humble, and your my age. LOL thanks for the information, I have always loved NIKE and the Jordan line even though I only ever got one pair. I had the 5's. Its fun to reminisce.
Did you see the video that Foamer Simpson did where he did a minor customization to the 2019 pair? He painted in the lines to separate the paneling. It makes the shoes a lot better.
Lots of people on IG did it first - @hoopfr3sh, @mjow1999, @nineteen.85 to name a few. Dudes on NT also discussing it and there’s a pencil method as well using General’s grey pencils.
The 2019 black cement release still gets under my skin. To me they look bootlegged for s few reasons. The first thing JB dropped the ball on is the off centered logo on the heel (anguish). Second, the shape you mentioned contributes to the bootlegged unauthorized look to the shoe. Third, I wish they had that layered look from the durabuck where you could see the subtle hits of grey on the cuts of durabuck. I doubled up because I'm a 4 enthusiast but I still feel that sting with this release!
What a great comparison story on the Jordan 4s releases in '89, '99, and '12. Since middle school, I always wanted a pair of Jordan 4 Breds, but my single mom couldn't afford them. When the Jordan 5s were released in 1990 I thought I would never see the Jordan 4's again. Little did I know at the time that there were going to be several re-releases of the same Jordan 4s in the coming decades. Just last year the Jordan 4 Black Canvas were released and I copped a pair. As much as I love the black canvas I still love to have a pair of the Jordan 4 breds. Well, someone was selling a used pair on Facebook marketplace for $150. I couldn't resist so I purchased them from the seller. According to the tag inside they were manufactured just this past year. They were in great condition, with only slight scruffs here and there. Thirty-four years was worth the wait. 😏😊☺️
@@q-storm767 Hmm. Not really. I missed that one so I didn't have an opportunity to check it out in hand. Canvas on sneakers are cool. Just hard to keep clean but good thing it's black.
the fact that after like 30+ years of dis shoe out its still looks soo much better than new shoes that came out in 2021 just tells how legendary jordan 4s were
Watching this video made me like my 2019 pair just a little less. I used to hate that visible “white” cuts on the synthetic suede material, but now I appreciate it for its retro look. 1989/99 shaping and small details were dope!
I think the nostalgia factor with og retros is overlooked/underrated . I was born a year after these originally released but I definitely remember seeing them growing up, some deadstock, some on TV but most were worn. I remember just having the literal feeling of “oh man these are FRESH AS FUCK!” every time I came across a pair and not even realizing what I was feeling. Before, J’s were worn because of the GOAT himself and the undeniable style/aesthetic/flavor was a huge bonus. Anyways being from Chicago just brings it all back full circle, gives us (Chicagoans) a greater since of pride when it comes to this Jordan culture. If you know, you know Love the content bro keep up the great work
If I was a little bit older man I'd probably be on the same level as you. I was born in 91, I didn't really start collecting until 2 years ago. I'm up to 45 pairs of js now.
I need advice from you marv.... i know your a deadstock air Jordan collector. P.S I started my DS collection because of you , i have a few classic og colorways that ima keep on ice. But i have plenty of non og colorways......should i rock the non og colorways and continue to keep the classics on ice / or keep em all on ice
Man I re-watch this video every year since this release and I still can't help but to wonder when well ever get this OG shape on the retros. I would be so happy if they'd just fix the 4 all together. that toe box all the way back to wing placement and ankle collar width/height. Definitely my Grail right there.
HEY MJO23DAN!! Got my hands on the 2020 Jordan 4 “Fire Reds” early and I’m comparing my recent 2019 Jordan 4 “Bred/Black Cement” and 2016 Jordan 4 “White Cement”, now I’m not a expert nor had OGs like you but they look different in terms of panel cuts and shape kind of. Can you please do a comparison? Are the shapes of the colorways different? P.S. quality control on early Fire Red pairs ain’t the best sadly but they’re for the toe so ain’t too mad. Just wanna know why they look different
Just a few tips to improve your video/channel, create sections such as comparisons or my thoughts so it's easier for viewers to find your content. Also maybe get yourself a white lazy susan so you can rotate the shoe smoothly while zoomed on in details. Other than that great video. New subscriber here! Also, you didn't mention the hight defference on the pull tab. 2019 is significantly taller. Unless I missed that part.
Since you’re new, I have a playlist section that divides up my videos by topic if you haven’t looked through my channel page yet. Also, I incorporate b-roll/up-close shots at either the beginning or end of my videos. Check out my style throughout my different videos I’ve done. Thanks for tuning in.
i feel like ill be waiting another 20yrs for a proper sharp toe box please tell me im wrong lol , and shout to HoopFr3sh him and another creators reconstruct the shoes .
I don’t understand why Nike just won’t make remasters identical? I’m sure they have blueprints to the originals. They probably have pairs from the 80s stashed away in great condition. I got two pairs of the 2019’s and not really impressed.
I’ve gone over this in previous videos. It’s just not that simple. It takes a great amount of resources. Even some that may not be available anymore because companies that produced them no longer exist or Nike isn’t able to reuse them because of patents not owned by them. There’s a lot of different reasons that go into this not to mention being cost efficient and being profitable despite quality applications.
I was 14 years-old in 1989 and on my Junior High basketball team. That was the first Air Jordan to get a lot of buzz. The Air Jordan 3s came out in 1988 and it wasn't a must have sneaker. They were a bit heavy but definitely cool. When the 4s came out there was a guy in our grade who had all of the color-ways which not a lot of people did back then. You usually picked a color and that was it. It also was the first time that the release date started to become a big deal. The next year the 5s came out in 1990 and I remember getting them a few days after the release. At the time there was a big buzz around getting them on day 1. This was pre Internet so you didn't even know what they looked like until the release day. The other way you were able to see the shoes before the release date is if you caught MJ during pre-game warm ups. I was at a game where the Bulls played the Pistons in late 1990 and he wore the 6s in pre-game warm ups. This was months before they were released to the public. They may have even been prototype versions because he didn't wear them in the actual game.
Thanks for the story. You should check out my Sneaker Reminisce video series. I just did a recent one but all of them are pretty good. Check my playlist. Lots of stories like yours.
Restoration methods have advanced these days if I wanted to bring them to life. I’ve had my time with a worn double back then so I’m not sweatin it. Thanks for checking the vid.
MJO I was just saying on another video that you should've consulted with JB to fix the huge mistakes that were made on the 2019 black cement release. It would've saved us Jordan 4 guys a lot of anguish!
I know it’s been awhile since this vid .. loved all the info .. I have a pair of 89 white cement looking for info on what I should do with them .. would like your help if possible ❤️
You look like a priest reading from the Bible while holding up the shoe and reading about the design of the shoe 🤣🤣🤣
Underrated comment. Deaddddd😂💀😂💀
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In 1989 I was a freshman in high school. Back when people would beat you up to steal your shoes or starter jacket/pullover. I had these in 89. Materials and construction can evolve over 30 years. Jordan 3,4,5 and 6 are the only ones I collect. To me these are the best styles ever. All in all they did a good job on the 2019 pair.
I just need that slanted toe box
3 through 6 my favorite too.
Exactly It’s Just Lining It Up A Bit Then It’s All Good
Hell yeah. Three thru sixes... those are mine too
1, 3, 4, 5 for me.
I’m 53 years old, the 89 OG had the hard, thick plastic Nike Air hang tag, also had the ball chain, I still have one OG tag from my 89’s, back then I’d put them on my keychain. As far as the seams showing grey predominant lines back then when they were new they did not show super, after wearing them they seemed to be more pronounced, at least from my recollection, this material on the 2019 seems a bit thinner and doesn’t show much initially, maybe over time it will become more pronounced with wearing them routinely.
Facts 💯, on what you said. The Nike Air was a three-dimensional piece of plastic. I'm 45 and I had them back in 89 and I was in 6 or 7th grade but I didn't even have the real man's OG I had the junior size for like $89, instead of the men's which was $109-$120 then we had Nike air on the back but it wasn't three dimensional like the men's size. I own a bunch of bred retros now but the 1989 real one is so rare in decent shape.
Yep, th-cam.com/video/7LRTgJ4GToU/w-d-xo.html My thoughts exactly. I had these also in 11th grade and vividly remember the hard plastic tag with the ball and chain. LOL, I did the same thing also. I got my drivers license in Summer 1989 and that handtag was on my car keys! 😁
Crazy he only has 35k subs! He is very passionate about his reviews and the Jordan brand.
Bossman will 704 I’m from the future he ha s 41k subs now
Next person to read this comment update us where he’s at
That's because he's a true Sneakerhead and not a Hypebeast
Learn a lot of stuff from watching some of his videos, you rarely find ppl nowadays who are actually passionate Jordan heads who know they history and lure. We have hype beast than actual Jordan heads
@@evb2065 im from the future future he has 46k subs now
Wow! You did it! You found the 89 original for the comparison! Great, great, great review here! This has been my favorite shoe since 1989. I've actually worn and played in an 89 pair and I can tell you it was so light compared to shoes of that time. The sole was really responsive and there were no issues of material or construction problems in that Era that I remember. When the black released it sold out immediately cause it was a playoff shoe. The white cement stayed on the shelf and the white red which came out to our city that summer. The military blue people complained about cause it didn't go with the Bulls uniform but it looked so good. It was such a different design than anything else people were wearing that it stood out. All except for the 89 high and low flight shoes with the same sole. Thank you for going above and beyond with this review! I really appreciated it.
Another big difference they've unfortunately missed every time since 99 is the shine on the netting. OG and 99 have that stickier finish that picks up light hitting it, instead of just the dull matte netting they continued with on 19. Always reminded me of a metal fence you'd see at hoop playgrounds
I had that shoe. Bro that shoe caught on late. People were not feeling it at first. It was just dedicated jordan fans. Then buy the summer it was a frenzy. Nike dropped sum dope flight jordan gear that year also... One of the reason it caught on was black became a dope color to ROCK. This is when NWA was hitting hard and RAIDERS starter gear was poppin.
Fuck the raiders
89 and 99 shape is untouchable 🙌🏾💯💯💯
Until now. (2024 reimagined)
Whenever they remaster a shoe it should be so close to the original you can hardly tell the difference besides the age. But Jordan is exceptionally Lazy
-Boxed toe area
-No white Lining
-Overall shape
The approach is like they don’t know much about the original 😒🤷🏾♂️✌🏾
There’s have been some models that have come close like the Last Shots or some colorways of the 13 but it’s just been inconsistent over the years.
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I love these old vids about the relics man. Its like a historical artifact.
Holy hell MJO. No one else is capable of providing us with this comparison. This video was needed to show the new gen exactly why older heads are disappointed in the 2019. THANK YOU.
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I still have my 89 OG pair. To answer your question the 89 pair came with the hard thick clear and orange tag. The lighter all orange tag actually came with the Nike Flights or Flight 89s back in the day. The Flights Scottie Pippen wore and the have the same midsole and soles as the J 4s. Once again great Video my man!
Cool to see the OG original from 30 years ago. Im getting my 2019's today I bought off Goat. I like your content you make. Its nice to get the "story" of one of the most iconic sneakers out there!
Thank you. Hopefully I’ve converted you into a subscriber? Enjoy your shoes!
@@mjo23dan already joined the squad 👍
1989 pair grails, fossils or not!
After looking at the 2012 black cement release the lines are so much sleeker and have just a better overall shape of the shoe compared to the 2019. The black phylon mud guard the wraps around the heel of the shoe has more of a linear angle (which is true for earlier retro 4 releases) that meets the grey outrigger piece of the outsole. I like how the black mud guard doesn't slope downward as it approaches the grey lateral outrigger of the shoe on the 2012 pair. It seems as time progresses with the 4's the start look more and more like they are bootlegged. I understand that subtle changes are made to distinguish the progression but at this point they are too drastic in my opinion.
Thank you for saying that about the toe box and its not just the 4s, idk why they wont do the original toe box and shape on jordans today
Had several of these in 89, my 6th grade year, the A or the I would fall off after so long, the R always stood strong for some reason, but when they relaunched in 99, omg, I was ecstatic, pure nostalgia, more so than 88's (3's) that came back out in 94, my fav Jordan besides the 85's (1's), we didn't flip the tongue and neither did Jordan, I attended most of his games, Chicago Stadium ish...upside done just made the sneaker official, no bootlegs back then unless you rocked XJ1000's from payless or Stadiums from Kinnys Shoe store, you'd get bulleyed out back then...
I have an OG 89 pair of BRED sz.12. The uppers look pretty good, some cracking. The midsoles are crust just like your pair. Bottoms look good still have wear left. I plan on restoring them with midsole replacement from Flight 89 or something similar. The two things about the OGs is the tongue and the insoles. The tongue on the OGs is rounded more where the 99s were squared, that really pissed me off! I always hated that and I got rid of my 99s a couple years ago when they started to fall apart. The insoles on the OG IVs & Vs were squishy, I always loved that when I had Vs back in 1990. The 99s didnt have that shit, I don't know about the new ones. I would consider getting the 19s, just because of what they are and how cool the look...I just want to restore the OGs...the insoles are still squishy and I used to wear them sometimes about 15 years ago...the shoes are priceless glad I never sold them...
You wore the og's 15 years ago. That s amazing. Let me see a pic of em.
Been talking about this since the beginning of the week and it’s finally here. Those 89s were incredible and felt ahead of it’s time. Fast forward 30 years later and the design is now timeless. Great review Marvin! Michael Jordan made history in these and now wear history with your 2019 pairs!
I always always always look forward to these videos. I love them so much. As I sneaker head I love seeing videos of my favorite shoes, but also comparing them to the previous versions. Just so dope I get to watch someone create this content!
Thank you Carlos for the support 👍
I bought that books after watching this video. I really really enjoyed it! Thanks for the recommendation
You are a true collector and a passionate collector man! Its tough to have real knowledge as well as historical actual reference and memories of the shoes in the modern sneaker enthusiast space.
Your vids are definitely my go to bible in learning the historical reference as I only started collecting 2 years back and for nostalgia, I didn't even release when I was in secondary school, I had my first Jordan 5 red fire with the 23 on the side, 1990, when I was 14... until I started adding Jordan into my collection last year and that was my first true collector memory rather than just aesthetic and design value.
Continue the great work man with these fantastic comparison vids and great to know the details changes as always though each iterations.
Thank you for the support Gilbert. The book I featured in the video gives better perspective of the Air Jordans we love and from the words of designer Tinker Hatfield. I think you’ll enjoy it. You can find a copy in my Amazon store in the description of the video. It’s called Driven From Within. It’s worth it. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@mjo23dan Thanks for the recommendation man. Just brought the kindle version to read and waiting for a hard copy to arrive.
Having has a few flip, already like some of the images of Ali/Jordan, a shot of all the Jordans in a circle, and earlier on, insight to the Nike & Jordan meeting.
"I did not want to go to the Nike meeting" "I didn't know Nike" "I didn't think I like Nike"
Can't wait to read the Tinker inspiration and Jordan relationship.
Going to enjoy this read for sure!
Always look forward to your comparison videos💯 I wish JB would've given us the white outline on the durabuck an the OG shape but I'm still happy with the 2019s✌🏿
Derek Daniels That’s What I Said They Need To Lining The Durabuck White That’s It I’m Getting Em Doe
The fours on do the right thing were actually a PE with the colorful lace lock on the front and LS holes instead of the caging in front and around the laces
More a sample than a PE
Fair enough 🤝🏾💯@@mjo23dan
How many pairs of kicks do you have brother. and good video keep up the good work
Currently? Probably over 300. I did a collection video some years ago.
Great comparison post! I can't believe I just scored a pair of these same 2019 Breds with actual box from my Vegas Nike Outlet just 2 weekends ago!! I just about died! I don't really wear Jordans but I always wanted a pair of Breds so I could be 1 and done...it matches everything I wear! Still had to pay retail of $200 but the lucky lot of us that managed to cop a pair (they had totally random sizes) were flabbergasted! So was the Nike crew manager! He got them that morning by the end of the day they were SOLD OUT!
I wish JB would've kept the black midsole linear as it slants toward the midfoot outrigger. The 4's midsole lines have drastically changed since the '99 release let alone the originals from '89. Even the midfoot outrigger's peak dont have complementary angles on both sides of them. The side of the outrigger's peak on the side of the toe is abrupt and not gradual like the opposite side. Those little things always stand out for me in terms of the changes that have taken place since the original release.
Dude I swear I’m about to delete all the other sneaker channels I’m subscribed to and only keeping yours this channel is all I need, keep it up bro
Appreciate the support. Thank you 👍
Surprise you didn't point out the ankle collar shape or the padding on them. Seems like the newer models look more low top in comparison to the older models.
That’s a visual for people to see. You can also visit my Instagram if you don’t follow me there as well.
I've definitely been waiting on this video
The thing I don’t like about the 2019 compared to the 99 and 89 is the toe box…how it goes up all bulky doesn’t sit right with me.
The shape on the 89’s is beautiful
Ogs are always cool to look at I love the height and the shape of the front part of the shoe looks like a real baller shoe
Awesome comparison, just picked up 2 pair 2019 one for use and one for stock. Very happy with the shoe
Go on Marvin, wear a pair of those 2019 BC4s, you deserve it! 😂
Hell yeah!
Great review. I remember these releasing in 89 and dribbling when I got my pair of OG fire reds.
The OG cut is just better. The 99 were closest though.
Good video comparison
The one outstanding feature of the black cement 4 are the grayish white accents from the cuts on the nubuck. It gave the shoe accents not provided on the 2019 release. It may not seem like much but it gave the shoe depth. It's kind of the reason why I copped the "Dunk from Above" 4's....great vid!
I was 9 years old when these came out and a friend of mine had these and I distinctly remember him flipping the tongue forward to show all of us that they were "AIR JORDAN'S". An awesome memory. My mom could not afford these when I was a kid which is part of the big reason why I collect now.
One other comment the toe box on the OG pair was originally actually more like the 2019 pair when they were new. The toe box would actually flatten out from the wear and tear on the shoe. That’s why it looks like it angles back on the 89 pair in your video. So they actually did a great job on the toe box shape.
Compared to photos and other videos I’ve seen, the shape and toe slant of the OG is much more sleek compared to today’s retros. Something that the brand has moved away from over the years.
You just got a new subscriber sir, your reviews feel so authentic. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you 🙏
I get so excited about your comparison videos!! Enjoyed this one a lot!!!
Got the 2019's a week ago. Great passionate review men. Got a new sub from me.
Man it’s like watching the history channel but with js. Love the content bro.
Great video. BTW. Hope your still enjoying those Tour 4s!
I am! Thank you.
Just wow! Good work!
just found your channel. I subscribed because, you are real, you are humble, and your my age. LOL thanks for the information, I have always loved NIKE and the Jordan line even though I only ever got one pair. I had the 5's. Its fun to reminisce.
Thank you. You should check out my other vids. Especially The Sneaker Reminisce series under my playlists. I think you’ll really enjoy those.
Did you see the video that Foamer Simpson did where he did a minor customization to the 2019 pair? He painted in the lines to separate the paneling. It makes the shoes a lot better.
Lots of people on IG did it first - @hoopfr3sh, @mjow1999, @nineteen.85 to name a few. Dudes on NT also discussing it and there’s a pencil method as well using General’s grey pencils.
The 2019 black cement release still gets under my skin. To me they look bootlegged for s few reasons. The first thing JB dropped the ball on is the off centered logo on the heel (anguish). Second, the shape you mentioned contributes to the bootlegged unauthorized look to the shoe. Third, I wish they had that layered look from the durabuck where you could see the subtle hits of grey on the cuts of durabuck. I doubled up because I'm a 4 enthusiast but I still feel that sting with this release!
Love these comparisons. Thanks again mjo.
Very passionate about what he does definitely subscribing
Thank you 🙏
That was definitely my starter Jordan that’s what started my passion
Such a difference the OG and 99s puts the 2019 version to shame. 2019 looks like a watered down replica cpmpaired to OG and 99s.
really?
alchemist flores damn you make nobody wanna get them now woowww really smh
Hugo D some people couldn’t get the 99 pair I know I was young and didn’t have no money for them and mama couldn’t get for me so
They feel like fakes, the plastic lace straps are so much more rubbery.
The 4's will always be black cement...honestly im begining to warm up to 4s. As always your review is always on point..
Great work, Marv! Keep up the great work! Mad knowledge I always learn so much! 👏🏿
What a great comparison story on the Jordan 4s releases in '89, '99, and '12. Since middle school, I always wanted a pair of Jordan 4 Breds, but my single mom couldn't afford them. When the Jordan 5s were released in 1990 I thought I would never see the Jordan 4's again. Little did I know at the time that there were going to be several re-releases of the same Jordan 4s in the coming decades. Just last year the Jordan 4 Black Canvas were released and I copped a pair. As much as I love the black canvas I still love to have a pair of the Jordan 4 breds. Well, someone was selling a used pair on Facebook marketplace for $150. I couldn't resist so I purchased them from the seller. According to the tag inside they were manufactured just this past year. They were in great condition, with only slight scruffs here and there. Thirty-four years was worth the wait. 😏😊☺️
Thanks for sharing your story and thanks for checking out the video
@@mjo23dan Any thoughts on the Jordan 4 Black Canvas released late last year?
@@q-storm767 Hmm. Not really. I missed that one so I didn't have an opportunity to check it out in hand. Canvas on sneakers are cool. Just hard to keep clean but good thing it's black.
the fact that after like 30+ years of dis shoe out its still looks soo much better than new shoes that came out in 2021 just tells how legendary jordan 4s were
waiting for the 2024 now!
Watching this video made me like my 2019 pair just a little less. I used to hate that visible “white” cuts on the synthetic suede material, but now I appreciate it for its retro look. 1989/99 shaping and small details were dope!
I think the nostalgia factor with og retros is overlooked/underrated . I was born a year after these originally released but I definitely remember seeing them growing up, some deadstock, some on TV but most were worn. I remember just having the literal feeling of “oh man these are FRESH AS FUCK!” every time I came across a pair and not even realizing what I was feeling. Before, J’s were worn because of the GOAT himself and the undeniable style/aesthetic/flavor was a huge bonus. Anyways being from Chicago just brings it all back full circle, gives us (Chicagoans) a greater since of pride when it comes to this Jordan culture. If you know, you know
Love the content bro keep up the great work
If I was a little bit older man I'd probably be on the same level as you. I was born in 91, I didn't really start collecting until 2 years ago. I'm up to 45 pairs of js now.
Wow!!! What a beautiful shoe. Love your reviews. Keep up the good work.
Awesome video!!
Awesome vid brutha!
@mjo23dan did you see the little orb (insect maybe) pass behind your head from left to right of screen? Look at minute 16:38 and on.
I remember when I bought my first pair of Jordans. These were the ones I got. 30 years ago. :(
What was the retail for them 30 years ago?
@@cold9574 I think it was 120 Canadian. That was 1989. I'm old.
@@cold9574 I think they were a hundred bucks. Maybe 125.
Dammit let’s get this man to 100k! His passion and knowledge is at the top!
Thank you 👏
It hurts to see the left shoe crack, dope that you have them for comparison. The rubbery 2019 wing made me so mad lol
New Subscriber. Fire content
Been waiting on this for a while!!!
I need advice from you marv.... i know your a deadstock air Jordan collector. P.S I started my DS collection because of you , i have a few classic og colorways that ima keep on ice. But i have plenty of non og colorways......should i rock the non og colorways and continue to keep the classics on ice / or keep em all on ice
That would be your decision. If you don’t care much for the non OG stuff, sell it and get more OG stuff.
@@mjo23dan thanks!
You do great work, man. Keep grinding
Nice review bro!
Man I re-watch this video every year since this release and I still can't help but to wonder when well ever get this OG shape on the retros. I would be so happy if they'd just fix the 4 all together. that toe box all the way back to wing placement and ankle collar width/height. Definitely my Grail right there.
HEY MJO23DAN!! Got my hands on the 2020 Jordan 4 “Fire Reds” early and I’m comparing my recent 2019 Jordan 4 “Bred/Black Cement” and 2016 Jordan 4 “White Cement”, now I’m not a expert nor had OGs like you but they look different in terms of panel cuts and shape kind of. Can you please do a comparison? Are the shapes of the colorways different?
P.S. quality control on early Fire Red pairs ain’t the best sadly but they’re for the toe so ain’t too mad. Just wanna know why they look different
My 2020 Fire Red is on the way but I don’t own the OG so I wouldn’t be able to do that comparison. Maybe with the Mars 4.
@@mjo23dan even a comparison with the Black Cement or White Cements would be much appreciated 🙏I'm just bugging on why they're different
Amazing video I have a pair of the 99 OG white and cement vintage with a sole swap and 2019 bred 4’s
Just a few tips to improve your video/channel, create sections such as comparisons or my thoughts so it's easier for viewers to find your content. Also maybe get yourself a white lazy susan so you can rotate the shoe smoothly while zoomed on in details. Other than that great video. New subscriber here!
Also, you didn't mention the hight defference on the pull tab. 2019 is significantly taller. Unless I missed that part.
Since you’re new, I have a playlist section that divides up my videos by topic if you haven’t looked through my channel page yet. Also, I incorporate b-roll/up-close shots at either the beginning or end of my videos. Check out my style throughout my different videos I’ve done. Thanks for tuning in.
i feel like ill be waiting another 20yrs for a proper sharp toe box please tell me im wrong lol , and shout to HoopFr3sh him and another creators reconstruct the shoes .
I don’t understand why Nike just won’t make remasters identical? I’m sure they have blueprints to the originals. They probably have pairs from the 80s stashed away in great condition. I got two pairs of the 2019’s and not really impressed.
I’ve gone over this in previous videos. It’s just not that simple. It takes a great amount of resources. Even some that may not be available anymore because companies that produced them no longer exist or Nike isn’t able to reuse them because of patents not owned by them. There’s a lot of different reasons that go into this not to mention being cost efficient and being profitable despite quality applications.
I've been waiting for this video for a minute.
I was 14 years-old in 1989 and on my Junior High basketball team. That was the first Air Jordan to get a lot of buzz. The Air Jordan 3s came out in 1988 and it wasn't a must have sneaker. They were a bit heavy but definitely cool. When the 4s came out there was a guy in our grade who had all of the color-ways which not a lot of people did back then. You usually picked a color and that was it. It also was the first time that the release date started to become a big deal. The next year the 5s came out in 1990 and I remember getting them a few days after the release. At the time there was a big buzz around getting them on day 1. This was pre Internet so you didn't even know what they looked like until the release day. The other way you were able to see the shoes before the release date is if you caught MJ during pre-game warm ups. I was at a game where the Bulls played the Pistons in late 1990 and he wore the 6s in pre-game warm ups. This was months before they were released to the public. They may have even been prototype versions because he didn't wear them in the actual game.
Thanks for the story. You should check out my Sneaker Reminisce video series. I just did a recent one but all of them are pretty good. Check my playlist. Lots of stories like yours.
Great vid as always brother. Much respect!
I wished Jordan Brand retro all of the OG Jordan 4s with the exact 1989 cut and design that you have on hand. 😞
it hurts my heart to see that deadstock 4 oxidize like they were worn. that's why I just rock them but respect to keeping them in mint condition.
Restoration methods have advanced these days if I wanted to bring them to life. I’ve had my time with a worn double back then so I’m not sweatin it. Thanks for checking the vid.
Great comparison! I'll be watching this one again!
MJO I was just saying on another video that you should've consulted with JB to fix the huge mistakes that were made on the 2019 black cement release. It would've saved us Jordan 4 guys a lot of anguish!
If only I was connected like that. The retro world would be in a better place haha
Wow, great comparison; thank you!
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This sneaker reminds me of the SNES for some reason. Still fire, they've been added to my must have after coppin the 13's in Chicago cw.
Should I buy the 2012 or 2019?
2019
Best comparison vid on these. Very informative. Got the 2012 & 2019 wish I had the 99 but was a young broke teenager back then lol Thank you.
Black Cement JORDAN 4 was released on February 15, 1989
Dope vid as always
Awesome vid again ... Education is key. Keep em coming. 🙏🙏🙏
Love your videos mj.....
and do the 1999 pair's wings susceptible to snapping off?
I know it’s been awhile since this vid .. loved all the info .. I have a pair of 89 white cement looking for info on what I should do with them .. would like your help if possible ❤️
What size are they?
Dope vid!! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the comparison! I was hoping that u would be doin this one soon and well, here it is 🤗 👍🙌👏👌
It’s been 15 years. I’m still waiting on the Cool Gray 4s. 😪