First is wolf second is fox and third is falco. Wolf is just a stupid character with many powerfull option yet he only takes fundementals to play. If it were me I would make fox better then wolf since fox takes time to actually learn.
Slippy? Ultimate doesn't have the Ultimate Spacie, ironically. (If you don't know what I'm talking about, search "Creating the Ultimate Spacie" by MagicScrumpy, you won't regret it)
Falco bois wya Also I think falco could use a couple buffs. Fix his hit boxes (up smash, side b, etc) make back throw and up throw always connect like mii gunner. And finally a slightly faster run speed
Z1AndOnlyMig That would be broken, I think if they just made one of his throw guarantee laser until like 120 and take away some of his neutral b end lag he would be great. If you make him faster and give him a bunch of better hit boxes (even tho I do agree upsmash is hot garbage and should be fixed) he would be broken
Robert Ward well true I just dash dance to make up for his lack of speed but still all of his hit boxes should be fixed imo. I asked for the speed increase because his neutral is very lacking compared to the other spacies but if he gets this buff he can join his buddies in S tier😄
Z1AndOnlyMig yeah my point is that being slower should be his weakness, as his aerial combo game is already way better than fox for example. If he had a ground speed increase his main weakness would be gone. But I agree with you on everything else!
Robert Ward true but do you think just fixing his hit boxes would make him S because I don’t what extra small buff he should have to join his buddies at the top of the top. I thought speed was a good option because he already has a few weaknesses speed (obviously) kill power (yes I know about up tilt to bair) and recovery like what they said in the vid
Z1AndOnlyMig I don’t think he will ever be top tier like Joker or Pikachu without buffs like ground speed like you suggested, but at the same time hitboxes plus more consistent lazer hits on his up and back throw would make him a far better character and push him to high tier or low top tier at least which is plenty I think.
I actually agree that fox is the best among the space animals as he is actually much more terrifying than he looks. He has supreme kill confirm and can rush down most of the ultimate cast easily. Though he is weak against fast sword characters like marth and lucina, he is still very strong against heavies or fast fall characters. Which makes him a really explosive character whose matchup can be rather extreme, but if wielded by strong players, he can be rather strong. He has a moderate learning curve and high potential which beats wolf who also has fairly low learning curve but only a fairly moderate potential and falco who has quite a high learning curve (because of his versatile air combo game) but only comes with moderate potential.
Funny tho, that if not for Light or luis$ there's no other fox that get significant results while wolf is much more represented in the top 50 PGR. Maybe it's because fox is more complex to perform with
@@DWIP798 even though Wolf is more represented, his results are inconsistent. Originally Zackray was the only consistent Wolf while Leo and Tweek only barley used him. However, Zack dropped him in favor of R.O.B. and Joker. Larry has only been doing recently better when at the beginning of the year, he was struggling a lot.
I feel like Falco is a buff or two away from possibly toppling Fox and Wolf. Seeing as Falco hasn’t been touched yet, FIX HIS UP SMASH!!! So fast fall nair to up smash can be another good kill confirm for him.
Warukuma Umm bad comparison, dude. Yes some upsmashes like Hero’s are designed to hit directly above them. Falco’s isn’t one of them when you A. pay attention to his up smash arc streaks as they actually start in front of him and B. See that it’s inconsistent when you actually try to hit someone with it when they are right in front of you. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. That and even the two hits connecting properly are inconsistent at times. It needs fixing.
Warukuma Ehh u-smash could still use adjusting, they’ve been adjusting certain characters hit boxes and such among other things. Falco had the same problem from smash 4 carried over with his wonky two hits not connecting properly even if we ignore how high/low it’s supposed to hit. Especially with his play style it’ll only benefit without breaking him. Every character should have solid kill confirms without some wonky inconsistencies getting in the way.
I've played plenty of Falcos and Wolfs in tourneys, usually as someone's secondary, but I have yet to come across ANY Fox main. Guess he has the highest skill ceiling too.
Every top player has a pocket Wolf...the tourney results since the open of Smash w/ wolf...vs. just Light. Sorry ProGuides recount it. ZD, LarryLurr, Nairo, and MKLeo to name a few have used Wolf in tourneys. Dexter and K9 also. If we are doing all S tier yeah but some of the best Wolfs don't travel.
Everyone has a pocket Wolf because he's simple to play, were Fox being much more difficult deters people from having him as a secondary. ZD uses Fox most of the time and has defeated Cosmos with his Fox.
Yes but Light is the best fox in the world and he barely made top 10, the only wolf's that you mentioned that are in the top 10 are Leo and Nairo, and they don't use the character anymore. Wolf does have more players but Fox has more options when it comes to combos, recovery, etc.
Wolf has much better all around results than fox. I feel like fox is carried by light while wolf has more players that use him either has a main or great pocket character.
It's obviously Slippy and Peppy because they're all about memes, and they have limitless potential by not being included in smash, so well never know he the would be s tier or not.
If akuma was a character his far fs would be wrath of the raging demon and the close would be that crouch punch geyser and if you can instant kill it would make that symbol you get after koing
I play as Samus and tend to struggle a little more against Falco. Maybe that was just that the local Tourny had a better Falco, but those combos are oppressive. I feel ironically confident in fighting what should be Samus's weaknesses in the rush down reflector users, but that might be because of Samus's reaching side tilt, bombs, down air, up tilt, screw attack out of shield and other moves in Samus's Kit.
I dont care that everyone is saying that they agree, I don't. I feel like wolf has worse results due to more people playing wolf, like everyone plays wolf and fox isn't a highly picked character (at least I think) this popularity can crush a top tiers results. I remember this happening when duck hunt and wario being the 2 highest win percentage characters in the game at one point despite duck hunt being duck hunt. I haven't seen the results so I cant fully say one over the other but i feel the duck hunt example is why results shouldnt be a back bone of an argument.
As a wolf main I've never lost to a fox nor Falco but you are right every video I see is either wolf losing or him getting disrespected entirely it's honestly disappointing
IDK if Fox or Wolf is the best space animal. I think bot Fox and Wolf are top tier, and that's all who matter. Falco is just good, which is a lot better than the "mediocre at best" status from Smash 4.
its impossible to say who's better between fox and wolf, wolf is much easier to learn, he has more weight, better air mobility and has BETTER kill power than fox. I'm a fox main and I always think Light makes Fox looks like he's impossible to beat for everybody, he get combo'd and gimped pretty easily, he's one of the lightest characters in the game, and he has no range, so yeah, if you're Light, I guess Fox is better. (Note: EVERY top player has a secondary wolf, guess why)
Fox: I have amazing frame data, good ground speed, and good short hop airial fast fall strings and a great up smash Wolf: I have good damage, amazing air speed and good airials Falco: I have up tilt
Falco has up tilt, good neutral air and good aerials that connect to back air. Also great edge guarding plus Im also heavier than fox. But I’m not better no. I pulled a zero to death combo and it was broken. I think it was on a Lucina main. 2 stocked her. I hope I run into a good peach or something one day.
I'm weirded out Wolf has the best aerials, you know, better than the bird. But even as someone who plays Falco secondary, I admit he could have some better options and mix-ups. I find myself having to wait until my opponents leave an opening rather than going on the offensive more often than not.
I dunno. If you’re talking about top level? Probably fox, but none of us are I’m sure. For mid to high level players, wolf is probably better because it takes so much skill to be good with fox, which is why there’s only one top fox player
At 190....1 9 0 Bro falco is already pretty darn good all he needs is, up smash buff, up b super armour, faster side b, kill throw that kills at 130 or 120
Falco is the best in my opinion. Has both Fox’s quick dash run start, with power like wolf as well as a very useful spike which is the fastest in the game of all characters
@@monadoslash and you've yet to debate against me, you've instead just gave me an even more "useless" argument. it didnt even resolve around the subject....0 context clues....shame. and i think you're looking for the word "irrational"
Kinda weird that the one with the best air game isn't the bird.
And the Wolf is slow on the ground.
CJ Bros it’s still not the bird. Wolfs air game is still way better
Catch this nair beating all your ariels
I clicked on this video and I just thought
"Is it Fox or Wolf"
R.I.P Falco
Wolf
Falco in my opinion
It ain't falco.
l05 rookie DAMN SON
*w o m b o c o m b o*
*is
@@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe no it isn't is because if it was is, then the sentence would be, is ain't Falco
@@thewalnut4017 what you don't like my English
Best is obv fox, second is a tie between wolf and slippy, then falco
First is wolf second is fox and third is falco. Wolf is just a stupid character with many powerfull option yet he only takes fundementals to play. If it were me I would make fox better then wolf since fox takes time to actually learn.
Spread Love too bad Slippy has no tournament results... No really, no tournament results
@@CaptainShenanigans42 Fuck slippy he would replace my main!!!
@@rafikirana2468 theres a strong argument for wolf as well
Slippy? Ultimate doesn't have the Ultimate Spacie, ironically.
(If you don't know what I'm talking about, search "Creating the Ultimate Spacie" by MagicScrumpy, you won't regret it)
Best space animal?
That ain’t Falco.
In terms of taunt, Falco is best tho
@@danielip7154 taunt game= meta
hands off my bae
Down taunt --> Down Smash
*w o m b o c o m b o*
Falco bois wya
Also I think falco could use a couple buffs. Fix his hit boxes (up smash, side b, etc) make back throw and up throw always connect like mii gunner. And finally a slightly faster run speed
Z1AndOnlyMig That would be broken, I think if they just made one of his throw guarantee laser until like 120 and take away some of his neutral b end lag he would be great. If you make him faster and give him a bunch of better hit boxes (even tho I do agree upsmash is hot garbage and should be fixed) he would be broken
Robert Ward well true I just dash dance to make up for his lack of speed but still all of his hit boxes should be fixed imo. I asked for the speed increase because his neutral is very lacking compared to the other spacies but if he gets this buff he can join his buddies in S tier😄
Z1AndOnlyMig yeah my point is that being slower should be his weakness, as his aerial combo game is already way better than fox for example. If he had a ground speed increase his main weakness would be gone. But I agree with you on everything else!
Robert Ward true but do you think just fixing his hit boxes would make him S because I don’t what extra small buff he should have to join his buddies at the top of the top. I thought speed was a good option because he already has a few weaknesses speed (obviously) kill power (yes I know about up tilt to bair) and recovery like what they said in the vid
Z1AndOnlyMig I don’t think he will ever be top tier like Joker or Pikachu without buffs like ground speed like you suggested, but at the same time hitboxes plus more consistent lazer hits on his up and back throw would make him a far better character and push him to high tier or low top tier at least which is plenty I think.
Falco, that one rito who never learned to fly
Best space animal?
Olimar
You mean the pikmin he nothing without
Samus, humans are animals to.
I actually agree that fox is the best among the space animals as he is actually much more terrifying than he looks. He has supreme kill confirm and can rush down most of the ultimate cast easily. Though he is weak against fast sword characters like marth and lucina, he is still very strong against heavies or fast fall characters. Which makes him a really explosive character whose matchup can be rather extreme, but if wielded by strong players, he can be rather strong. He has a moderate learning curve and high potential which beats wolf who also has fairly low learning curve but only a fairly moderate potential and falco who has quite a high learning curve (because of his versatile air combo game) but only comes with moderate potential.
Funny tho, that if not for Light or luis$ there's no other fox that get significant results while wolf is much more represented in the top 50 PGR. Maybe it's because fox is more complex to perform with
Maël Bazin yeah, wolf is much easier to play than fox
@@DWIP798 even though Wolf is more represented, his results are inconsistent.
Originally Zackray was the only consistent Wolf while Leo and Tweek only barley used him. However, Zack dropped him in favor of R.O.B. and Joker.
Larry has only been doing recently better when at the beginning of the year, he was struggling a lot.
Fox has never struggled against disjointed characters, he has always been able to deal with them.
Zero_OR 5 fox literally gets destroyed by sword characters wym.
Fox >> Wolf >> Falco
7:13 every wolf player online if you are anywhere near 100%
*cries in falcon neutral
Me 🤣👌
I feel like Falco is a buff or two away from possibly toppling Fox and Wolf. Seeing as Falco hasn’t been touched yet, FIX HIS UP SMASH!!! So fast fall nair to up smash can be another good kill confirm for him.
Warukuma Umm bad comparison, dude. Yes some upsmashes like Hero’s are designed to hit directly above them. Falco’s isn’t one of them when you A. pay attention to his up smash arc streaks as they actually start in front of him and B. See that it’s inconsistent when you actually try to hit someone with it when they are right in front of you. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. That and even the two hits connecting properly are inconsistent at times. It needs fixing.
Warukuma Ehh u-smash could still use adjusting, they’ve been adjusting certain characters hit boxes and such among other things. Falco had the same problem from smash 4 carried over with his wonky two hits not connecting properly even if we ignore how high/low it’s supposed to hit. Especially with his play style it’ll only benefit without breaking him. Every character should have solid kill confirms without some wonky inconsistencies getting in the way.
I've played plenty of Falcos and Wolfs in tourneys, usually as someone's secondary, but I have yet to come across ANY Fox main. Guess he has the highest skill ceiling too.
Yep
Light and lurr
@@TM26Slippy Lurr mains Wolf.
tho.
@@curiosityman3704 true!! but the man's a space pirate
I really thought this wouldn’t just be based on results but they really just made it only about results
Results matter, but yeah they should have used more information.
You didn’t say that wolf has a very good initial dash so keep doing that instead of running
Every top player has a pocket Wolf...the tourney results since the open of Smash w/ wolf...vs. just Light. Sorry ProGuides recount it. ZD, LarryLurr, Nairo, and MKLeo to name a few have used Wolf in tourneys. Dexter and K9 also. If we are doing all S tier yeah but some of the best Wolfs don't travel.
Everyone has a pocket Wolf because he's simple to play, were Fox being much more difficult deters people from having him as a secondary. ZD uses Fox most of the time and has defeated Cosmos with his Fox.
Yes but Light is the best fox in the world and he barely made top 10, the only wolf's that you mentioned that are in the top 10 are Leo and Nairo, and they don't use the character anymore. Wolf does have more players but Fox has more options when it comes to combos, recovery, etc.
Wolf has much better all around results than fox. I feel like fox is carried by light while wolf has more players that use him either has a main or great pocket character.
Wolf is easier to use which is why more people use him.
Mkleo himself has said that he thinks fox is actually busted
There arent any other top players who play fox it's like esam carrying pika
It's obviously Slippy and Peppy because they're all about memes, and they have limitless potential by not being included in smash, so well never know he the would be s tier or not.
WHAT DOES THE FOX SAY?!
Fox: Fox McCloud is the best one
Fox is the best, but wolf is a really close second. Falco deserves a buff imo. If he could run just a bit faster, falco could be top tier
Best link next ?
EDIT: I prefer falco because first I play him as a third in melee and second he's a combo based character just like my main
It seems you personally prefer the air. (And yes I stole that joke)
Who thought that Wolf would be the worst?
Poor Falco has amazing combo potential but lacks good kill options. Which sucks because he’s my favorite of the Star Fox characters.
1:05 "fucks McCloud"
If akuma was a character his far fs would be wrath of the raging demon and the close would be that crouch punch geyser and if you can instant kill it would make that symbol you get after koing
Among the three, Wolf has the best idle animation and profile character selection in my opinion. He looks so intimidating.
I play as Samus and tend to struggle a little more against Falco. Maybe that was just that the local Tourny had a better Falco, but those combos are oppressive. I feel ironically confident in fighting what should be Samus's weaknesses in the rush down reflector users, but that might be because of Samus's reaching side tilt, bombs, down air, up tilt, screw attack out of shield and other moves in Samus's Kit.
I just want auto cancel lasers and good dair... falco pls
I like fox. He may be a glass canon, but play aggressive and you will be fine with him.
not really, as fox being glass your forgiven less for taking damage. No reason wolf cant be as aggressive as well.
It's the one with the tail, obviously.
I love that they subtly revealed who the best was right at the best of the video
Wolf, Fox, and then Falco
Same
I dont care that everyone is saying that they agree, I don't. I feel like wolf has worse results due to more people playing wolf, like everyone plays wolf and fox isn't a highly picked character (at least I think) this popularity can crush a top tiers results. I remember this happening when duck hunt and wario being the 2 highest win percentage characters in the game at one point despite duck hunt being duck hunt. I haven't seen the results so I cant fully say one over the other but i feel the duck hunt example is why results shouldnt be a back bone of an argument.
As a wolf main I've never lost to a fox nor Falco but you are right every video I see is either wolf losing or him getting disrespected entirely it's honestly disappointing
IDK if Fox or Wolf is the best space animal. I think bot Fox and Wolf are top tier, and that's all who matter. Falco is just good, which is a lot better than the "mediocre at best" status from Smash 4.
its impossible to say who's better between fox and wolf, wolf is much easier to learn, he has more weight, better air mobility and has BETTER kill power than fox. I'm a fox main and I always think Light makes Fox looks like he's impossible to beat for everybody, he get combo'd and gimped pretty easily, he's one of the lightest characters in the game, and he has no range, so yeah, if you're Light, I guess Fox is better. (Note: EVERY top player has a secondary wolf, guess why)
Fox: I have amazing frame data, good ground speed, and good short hop airial fast fall strings and a great up smash
Wolf: I have good damage, amazing air speed and good airials
Falco: I have up tilt
Falco has up tilt, good neutral air and good aerials that connect to back air. Also great edge guarding plus Im also heavier than fox. But I’m not better no. I pulled a zero to death combo and it was broken. I think it was on a Lucina main. 2 stocked her. I hope I run into a good peach or something one day.
Haha andy waoh so funny,
I bet u play a zoner and have no friends
Probably wolf
You are right
I didn't watch the video but OBVIOUSLY IS FOX bc he's good in every smash bros whether it's top tier or high tier
I'm weirded out Wolf has the best aerials, you know, better than the bird. But even as someone who plays Falco secondary, I admit he could have some better options and mix-ups. I find myself having to wait until my opponents leave an opening rather than going on the offensive more often than not.
Why you calling him the bird just say falco u degenerate
I dunno. If you’re talking about top level? Probably fox, but none of us are I’m sure. For mid to high level players, wolf is probably better because it takes so much skill to be good with fox, which is why there’s only one top fox player
And the others arent even close to Lights ability and Light struggles with match ups as well.
I like how fox’s up tilt wasn’t mentioned at all
It hurt me as a Fox main.
Because it's broken?
I am OPAFIN yeah
OPAFIN yes it’s frame 3 wtf
Falco should have more that just two jumps
*HES LITERALLY A FUCKING BIRD*
Falco with even 3 jumps would be broken though
I yearn for the day that slippy toad joins the spacies
Me in the bigging:you better say fox!
At the end me:good choice
Wolf is the best
Falco second
Fox 3rd
it is actually the bird
I'm a falco main
"Personally, I prefer the AIR"
I think we know who wins because of that quote alone. 😏
I always liked Falco.
It has to be falco!
The best space animal is
Zero Suit Samus
you mean Rosalina & Luma
Isn't Ridley a space animal....
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Well yes but actually no.
he is more like a space monster lol
Falco is my best. Space 🐦
I feel like all 3 are super good.
I find it stupid Falco doesn't have the best air speed out of the three
Results only looked at peak placements
I think falco could be second now. He got buffs
Especially now
Personally I like Falco.
Just saying
Falco is underated
But he does not work
@@IAm-zo1bo he does now
It's woof in my opinion
For me falco is the Best space animal
You mean slippy the best right?!?!
Didn't even mention Falco's down B. The disrespect
Easily Fox after the Wolf nerfs
he...never got nerfed
what Wolf nerfs my dude 😂
@@boiboi4581 down smash nerf and some other stuff
@@boiboi4581 He got nerfed multiple times
@@ruii7028 Down smash, up b, and Laser were the biggest nerfs wold caught
I think wolf is the best space animal
It’s Wolf.
Lol beat me to it.
Trick question it’s Ridley.
If Falco could reliably throw people off the stage At 190 he would be 👌
At 190....1 9 0
Bro falco is already pretty darn good all he needs is, up smash buff, up b super armour, faster side b, kill throw that kills at 130 or 120
I dont think its useful to rank these 3 since they play quite differently
Best space animal would be MARIO
The end is a respectable result
1. I love foxes
2. I’m a basically a god at fox in smash
3. Wolves are F tier
You know Fox after 20 years of service would look more like wolf.
So I call Wolf, DivorcedFox.
@@Turnpost2552 lol
That’s funny 😂
Mos trixx will not be pleased with this 🐔🐣🐣
Falco!!!
Larry lur
He’s gonna be mad.
We all know that slippi Todd is the best.
*COME ON!*
Never mind he won
It's obvious
Slippy
Answer: not falco.
FOX
Falco, clearly
Just cause slippy got sorted in the wrong franchise doesn't mean he isn't a spacie 😕
I believe in the falco agenda
wolf is better than fox
Ridl--
Falco>Fox>Wolf
As a falco main i still hate sakurai until they fix falco at least up smash and back throw and up throw and less endlag on down b
Best to worst
1: wolf
2: falco
3: fox
I think they're all a tier
Wolf is S
So youre wrong falco B tier
Fox A tier
@@zombiefiedzgaming7303 idk I think that fox and falco are very similar. I agree with wolf in s tier, but I'd put falco and fox in a tier.
Am I the only one who rly liked brawl wolf?
kirby is the best space animal
Olimar and the pikmin are the best space animal
That ain't Falco.
In my opinion i wanna say falco because i main him
That ain’t falco...
Wolf is the best
Its wolf
Wolf
I know
Wolf>Fox>Falco
i think wolfy best :}
Yoshi
Falco is the best in my opinion. Has both Fox’s quick dash run start, with power like wolf as well as a very useful spike which is the fastest in the game of all characters
FAX
wolf can kill earlier then fox so i say wolf
that's the most useless argument I've ever seen in my life
@@monadoslash and you've yet to debate against me, you've instead just gave me an even more "useless" argument. it didnt even resolve around the subject....0 context clues....shame. and i think you're looking for the word "irrational"