Can We Make This Button Fun To Press?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2020
- A quick game design video about the three fundamentals of fun. What is fun? How can you create it? Why is pressing buttons in video games any fun at all? Whether you're making games or just playing them, this should give you an introduction into the fascination psychology of fun.
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This video is based on the work of other smart people. Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Actionable Gamification by Yu-Kai Chou and Rules of Play by Katie Salen and Eric Zimmerman.
The two games I showed as examples are One Finger Death Punch and Outer Wilds.
Hope you enjoy the video. Take care! :)
#gamedev #gamedesign
FUN:
F - Impact/Reward
U - Challenge
N - Fantasy
Wow, that makes it so easy to remember. Thanks.
F - Fantasy
U - U get Challenged
N - Nrocks smashed
I love how you could've put fantasy for f but didn't
Why!
F - is for Fire
U - is for Uranium
N - is for No survivors
jonas' fun activities include
* playing piano
* playing chess
* drawing
* smashing rocks with a sledgehammer
Haha, nice Dani! Also u missed balancing on tightrope.
dani's fun activities include
*Drinking Milk
*Drinking Milk
*Drinking MILCC
@@HeilmwaterStudios and saying THICC
@@gustavrosgaardsrensen8028 **wink wink**
That FUN is quite T H I C C
Title: "can we make this button fun to press"
ACTUAL Title: "The three main keys to game design"
The chosen title is more fun than the actual one. Guess he knows his stuff.
To me the actual title sounds like a lesson and I don't like learning.
I mean this is a really good way to learn . I had FUN watching the video . I learned about what makes activities fun . So yeah Gamification for the win!
you guys, I'm not saying he should've used an actual title instead ToT, i'm just saying it was a good tutorial hidden behind another title. I'm not criticizing their choices.
Well, I didn't expect the video to turn oit the way it was. I thought of it more like some cookie clicker tutorial and not a lesson in game design. In that regard its mire like Anti-Clickbait as the video delivered more than promised
If the title were the bottom one I'd think I'll feel bored because I'm not into game design but the top title made it seem like I didn't know what I was getting myself into
Dunno why this was recommended but I like where this is going
By the way.. wishlist will you snail on steam
Wishlist karlson on steam
Wishlist karlson on steam
i love how the karlson comments got more likes than the will you snail one on the will you snail creator's channel
Same
This is a hidden tutorial about game design, I loved it!
Happy to hear that. Thank you. :)
What part of it is hidden?
&I Everything?
f4Andrew7 what?
f4Andrew7 he didnt say in the description that its a tutorial on how to make a boring game fun.
We have turned a button into a
*major gambling game*
that's what happens if you have too much fun, gambling or competitive.... imagine if this game presented in the video was a competitive... oh wait, it exists already, it's called Osu!
online poker comes down to 3 buttons and a slider essentially
@@MapleXD2000 You stretched the thing too much: If you are going to make a poker game, you have to do more than 3 buttons.
-Random generator for flipping the card on the table and among players
-Counter of best hand among players
-Split of the money between who played in that round
-Something that keeps track of blinds and a timer,
-Animations
-Sounds effects
You picked a game where you have to think, in the example of the video, you don't have to
@InnerEagle poker needs more then 3 buttons? No shit sherlock! Obviously there is going to be more mechanics underneath... just like there are underlaying mechanics in the game in the video.
Your argument makes no sense tho because we're commenting under a video of a game that tries to be fun with only 1 button. In this context it makes totally sense to mention poker which, as i said, is fun with only 3 1/2 buttons.
Also you're saying that in the game in the video you don't have to think, which makes me wonder if you even watched the video.... how are you going to time the button press perfectly without thinking about it?
@@MapleXD2000 In this video, the main goal is to make it entertaining the button, right? In an online poker game, the main role of those buttons doesn't create the excitement, also yes, I watched it, more than once to learn something BUT the fact is, I have a better example than what you said, you probably know it, it's called "Videopoker", that's mainly focused on touching buttons.
I love how you’ve just created a game that can be (theoretically) played with literally any game controller that has a button
Probably playable with a doorknob
This can be played by any accessory with an input.
This can be played on a potato
Press f to mobile gamers that wanna play this
BANANA
"We turned our button into an abusive gambling game.Yay!"
Cookie clicker in a nutshell
Jonas: talks about how fun this button he made is.
Me: "But... I can't press it. I want to press it."
Imagine this in vr
Seriously though, who wants this to be an actual game? Cause I'd play it.
Why is this not a game
PETITION TO MAKE THIS AN ACTUAL GAME
I really want to press that button
You should make this into a complete game called "The Fun Button" or something like that where you slowly add all of these features as the player levels up. That will give the button another dimension, progress.
Multiplayer io game 😂
I really thought that I would find a download link.
This game is something I would play for hours every day.
That sounds cool! Can I steal your idea for my new game? 😉
Ever heard of AVGM? It's a clicker game which explains the features of abusive video-game manipulation, and most of which (rewards, impacts) clash with those of this video
Isn't that part of impact? Though still a very decent idea, like the game Upgrade Complete! and its sequels
1) 0:15 Impact:
a) 0:23 Destroying an object. Think of smashing a boulder with a sledge hammer
b) 0:49 Feeling of control
c) 1:01 Lasting consequences
d) 1:38 Multiplayer
2) 1:52 Reward: Linked to impact. Release dopamine
a) 2:13 Sounds and eye candy
b) 2:34 Particles, wobbling, shaking effects
b) 2:38 Haptic feedback, controller rumble
c) 2:53 Lasting rewards, XP bar
d) 3:14 Randomness
3) 3:47 Challenge: Too much is frustrating, too little is boring
a) 4:20 Enemies
b) 4:35 More xp for defeating enemies
c) 4:41 Fair and feedback
4) 4:56 Fantasy. Space, stories, and escape reality
a) 5:20 Fun Spaceship
b) 5:40 Great Fighter
c) 5:45 People want different things, no one size fits all
d) 5:54 Abstract
Only 30 likes? I'll fix that
You are literally (and I’m not kidding) probably the smartest game dev I’ve ever seen in terms of game development.
ah yes
literally probably
@@thegoldengood4725 lol
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these are basics, tbh.
pressin' that wishlist button feels so good
Haha. Nice. Thanks for confirming! :D
Mr. Spiky I read this in deep sexy voice idk why
@@deppresedonion5146 tmi dude... tmi :D
Mr. Spiky ;)
Mr. Spiky hhahahahahahahahahahh
And just like that, while trying to condense fun into it's purest from, he created a clicker game.
Not exactly , because there is one crucial ingredient missing for a good clicker game.
Driving curiosity.
You try the game , you get few points, you kill ennemies and ge tmore points, you level up, you do that for a while...and now?
What's the difference between being lvl 1 and 50?
If nothing change, you'll quickly gave up because you realize the game is entirely pointless.
A perfect exemple of a very basic clicker game who doesn't that is "my name is mayo" you just click on a mayo pot, but you get funny punchline, new background, new cosmetic, ect...and this alone is enought to let the player and driving the player for wanting more.
And more developped clicker games live with the promise if you persist, you'll be reward with unknow new uppgrades, new mechanism, new ressources ect...
@@ballom29 r/woooosh
@@charliemaloney1354 what did I do to deserve to be woshed?
@@ballom29 *w o s h*
@@Permafrost107 no u
i need this to be a game, I WANT TO CLICK LE BUTTON!
ME TOOOO
,,le“?
@@dowowowowowow7878 it saddens me that you don’t know this joke…
Also it’s French for the
This is a game I want to make when I start learning coding and need to practice
Still waiting for the impact of the "Add to your wishlist" button I pressed months ago.
Delayed impact only makes the reward more satisfying! I hope!
It just sends you an email when an item is on sale
I'd literally buy this game on Steam! It's incredible how much content and practical knowledge you managed to share within just 7.5 minutes! You upload less often these days, but the quality of your videos has skyrocketed. Thank you!
Khud0 - Indie Game Dev if he left out some of his hammer footage or said „impact“ a couple of times less, it couldve been even more compact
@@hirnfaser7245 Yeah, but would it still be as FUN and JUICY? :)
This is one of the most underrated videos on game dev on youtube.
3:17 That was some of the saddest loot I have seen. It was not worth dealing with toxic genji who is allergic to the payload.
It really hurts, when you realize the button clicking is more fun then your entire game 😅
try to add more buttons to press
or less idk
Andre Lisboa “or less”
There’s only one button. Are you asking for a motion control game?
@@ItsDevinJ u can use your mind control habilities to press the button without a button
@@andrelisboa7193 Add a clock into your game that randomly presses the button, making you think that you're doing it by thinking certain things but can't be absolutely certain..
Than*
jonas is a professional rock breaker
Rocks pretend to be dead when they see me coming. Unfortunately for them I know their silly little tricks. :P
@@JonasTyroller please make a mobile version of this button ill even buy it!
@@JonasTyroller show us yhe link to the game!
Simple. Make a rhythm game
Such as “A dance of fire and ice”. Its only one button
lol
Jonas: do you know of another button that is fun to press?
Me: the like button?
Jonas: the wishlist button!
Me: o:
Yup! The wishlist button is the best button! Specifically the wishlist button on Karlson.
@@odysseusgaming7157 if I played anything other than cookie clicker I would but I don't need steam for cookie clicker so I don't have it
Lol that's exactly what I thought
And that's basicly how almost every mobile game is created ^°^
You forgot the part where you "take inspiration"
@@lgasc ""HEAVILY"" inspired
Except mobile games are lazy and not fun
Note he said "almost". Not all mobile games are bad.
Except for the "fun" part
"Can we make this button fun?"
Me and intellectual: cookie clicker
I started playing cookie clicker yesterday and I can't stop
Hacked cookies taste awful
@@pikachu-jf2oh it's cheated cookies
actually there is a dragon which is a different button and accendimg with heavenly upgrades, farming, a stock market, golden/wraith cookies an apocolipse of grandmas and over 1 octasexvindegillion cookies
you and the other guy named intellectual knows what's fun bro
I actually want to play this game! I would even pay for that...
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I'm willing to PAY to press a SINGLE Button, oh my gosh
same
@@bruh.5620 Don't play then no ones forcing you to
@@zeradris no, im saying mans dumb for wanting to play this game when there are better games with the same style and shit
@@bruh.5620 Man they like it do they play it what's the problem just move on with your day
@@zeradris they said they would pay for it which is stewpid
I’ve had this video in my “Watch Later” playlist for 3 years. Just because the button was fun to press, I wasn’t sure if the video was fun to click on.
7 minutes later, I can confirm that YES, my mind and expectations were BLOWN! Well made, and very fun indeed :D
I would have added "variety" over "fantasy" ... having changing things that keep you coming back to discover more things is a lot more compelling than just a cosmetic change.
I've spent days playing simple games with no aesthetics and no theme simply because the gameplay is rewarding and full of meaningful and interesting decisions. To me that's much more important with good game design.
Novelty. Pattern. Discovery, creation.
true that
I bet this would look cool in like a spore setting. Where you're bacteria trying to survive.
Same, I like to find new things to do.
@@xcloudx01alt ive sayed it 19982284 times and ill do it again SOMEONE MAKE THIS A MOBILE GAME
Honestly didn't expect a 7 minute psychology lesson, but I really enjoyed this video
(Not as much as I would pressing that button, though)
OH
So this is why the "I am frustrated" mode felt so fun
I see you were taking notes when writing this video.
Imagine what you could do with _two_ buttons
You’ve gone too far
Jonas: “can we make it fun to press this button?”
MumboJumbo on Hermitcraft 7: “Hold my redstone”
that's not fun that's gonna cause Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo
Not anymore.
I just gave you your 69th like
Mumbo didnt come up with the idea of the button though. It was redit a couple years ago
RIP button
Make the button a cookie, done.
I may have been playing a certain game while typing this.
Minecraft?
@@Demonslayer-64 bruh it's obviously Cookie Clicker lmao
@@NorwayDuck Bruh its obviously a joke lmao
@@latico5389 I was replying to Demonslayer64, I knew OP was making a joke.
@@NorwayDuck I think you are the joke now
I like how for fantasy you put outer wilds, aka the masterpiece game
“It releases dopamine in my *dummy* little brain”
chOColAtE
4:12 Getting over it:
We don't do that here
oof
People with ADHD/ADD -
*_you underestimate my power_*
*you underestimate my...**
I can confirm, I always have something to idle my hands with, though I wouldn't just do that, I'd also be flipping through my 150 open tabs and scrolling through discord while watching a video
@@satibel *_how did you know what I was doing at this very moment_*
@@bruhhelp7396 I blame it on my ADD.
**BRRRRRRRAA BRRRRRA BRRRRRR-** **button breaks** oh...
I loved this take on video game designing, knowing all this but the details you provided made it a whole new element.
What a gem! This is really deep, important, subtle, profound, and simple. Subscribed!❤❤❤
0:25 haha love how you put such clips in your videos.
And thank you for making videos about such things, really helpful! :D
I was really just looking for an excuse to smash something with a sledgehammer. :P
Happy to hear you found the video interesting. Thank you. :)
@@JonasTyroller send the link to tue button game pls
These videos are super helpful in terms of game design! There are many tutorials on how to programm games,
but not about these actually quiet simple things that clearly no one really knows about :D
This just sounds like making a game, but with extra steps
I love looking back and seeing the planned release in 2020, if only Jonas knew.
I love the balance of confidence and humility you use to tackle this subject. Nice video.
Man, you’re amazing
You watch him!!!
we need to appreciate the absolute insane people who are able to make games with one key fun
This video is amazing! Thank you for that!
Right now I’m reading two books that tackle this subject: The Theory of Fun and Level UP, and your video really glue some pieces together!
Very polished video, it's fresh and really good I didn't expect this qualify tbh ,
Keep this format I think this what gonna rise your channel .
Oh , some how the like button seemed fun to press
"Unplug your controller"
*laughs in nintendo switch*
An excellent tutorial about game design. I consider myself someone who knows a decent amount about good game design but you still manage to make the information excellently presented and continue to even show me a few things I miss ;) thanks again!
very nice video. i knew these concepts but seeing this in action like that is very refreshing and helped me to consider that kind of things harder in my game, instead of thinking the fun will come by itself.
0:07 My controller is wireless so yes, I can say yes, it is still fun the press the buttons :)
You basically made a crossover between Osmos and Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime
TH-cam : Hey, there's a button that said FUN
Me : *YES*
I had watching this video assigned to me in my game design class. I remember watching this video when it came out years ago, and revisiting it with game design experience was awesome. Great video
2:06 jonas is so cute ;-;. WE NEED TO *Protecc* our lil boy
I edited the part out where I smash my PC against the wall because we ran out of chocolate.
@@JonasTyroller oh no-
@@JonasTyroller lol
wow i never thought about it but this is absolutely interesting video
such a good video man! thanks for this info, short and to the point!!!
I can not believe How amazing your videos are! Very dificult to believe you are a real person...
Him: Making pressing a button fun.
Cookie Clicker: Am I a joke to you?
ik this was a year ago but oh my god that game brings back memories
I was thinking about this game too! I forgot why I deleted it after spending 2 years on it though 😭
Such a great video again. I really like your work and can't wait to play Wil You Snail?
Aw. Thanks for your kind words. Means a lot. :)
I too, can't wait for WYS
I watched it because the topic was so ridiculous, but you had a surprisingly thorough and useful thesis on game design in this one case study. Really loved it!
jonas pressing the button and eating a single piece of chocolate is so cute
2:06 “Because chocolate releases dopamine in my DUMMY little brain!” 🤣🤣🤣
"Unplug your controller and see how long it stays interesting to press buttons."
My ADHD:
Really cool tutorial. It's a short and simple explanation to what makes a game feel really satisfying when playing.
This is eye opening. I'm so glad that I watched this video. Thank you for posting.
Other game devs: You just cant make pressing a button fun!
Jonas Tyroller: Haha button goes press
Correction:- haha button go *presssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss*
@@pikachu-jf2oh make the press *bold*
@@Sover1gn done
@@pikachu-jf2oh nice
Oh boy you bet im pressing that wishlistbutton ;)
Appreciate the support. Thanks a ton! :)
The fun button reminds me of the I am frustrated room in will you snail
0:10
Toddlers: *is that a challenge?*
3:49
You really balanced on a line??!!!😲
Next video: how to make breathing fun
You just created a universal recipe of how to design games
I could never imagine that i'll learn so much about game desing in this video, thank you!
2:00 are you ok lol
I must change my glasses because I thought this was a Tom Scott video xd
although I really liked your content, so new sub :P
Best game design tutorial ever , thanks jonas
I *LOVE* those knockback effects!
Another fun button to press would be hitting that like button.
Just don’t hit it an even number of times.
Very inspiring! !
I love the style and concept of this kind of video,
talking about game design and put it directly into practice,
developing from raw concept game to a.quite integrated demo.
Excellent!!
I really enjoy this video, and I realized that this cam be a tutorial on how to captivate players within a simple game!
bro i keep rewatching this video its so good
0:42 I legit thought for a second that you were hitting your dog with a hammer
Just refresh my TH-cam and he has uploaded! Yesss.
Gives me a distraction from programming for a bit.
Oh yes... Clicking the refresh button on YT is pretty much like begging for a distraction... xD
@@JonasTyroller really fun!
@@JonasTyroller yeah... i can't help but notice that before the quarantine i often only pressed that button once and had way more videos then i could even attempt to watch (even at 2.5x+ speeds :c and now in quarantine i often catch myself refreshing 5-10 times before finding 1 good video to watch
Someone should show this in a game dev class
subbed instantly, your content and it's presentation are amazing
I love this videos, just two down sides;
One: where is the button press game
Two: If ur gonna show Outer Wilds, u gotta at least show Riebeck >::(
Am I the only one to really fudging want to press this button
No
Yes
This is amazing. A fun watch, and also very informative.
wow thats why i like grinding in games!
thx for the video :3
This is how all those minute long games are made.
"how do we make tapping the screen fun?"
- make a bubble rise up when u tap the screen
- add SFX
- reward the player points for not dying
- add pipes
- make it impossible
- make the bubble a bird
- upload it to the App Store
People who were addicted to cookie clicker: yes
I just released my first fully-completed game, and this video was realyl helpful in figuring out how to add game juice! It's a very short game, but it's surprisingly fun thanks to all the tips in this video - thanks, Jonas!
This is a fantastic thought experiment on game design and the nature of fun
All you have to do to make it fun is:
-Put it on a timer for its life
-Make colored meaningless belts for how close it is to death
-RIDICULE LOWER BELTS
-Fun game
Y e s
Life is fun then
This "reward" is comming with a germany tatoo lol
I love the developer community because they show respect
masterful video, thank you!