@@Some1ElsesFutureSelf Actually true, probably not at tier 1 or tier 2 levels, but footage from the movie Heat is used as a visual aid of the proper combat reload that val Kilmer does during the getaway scene in that film.
What makes this chillingly real is that he reloads almost every time. I'm tired of movies where the good guy can fire 1,000 rounds from a single magazine. LOL. Very realistic moves and weapon usage. Will definitely go and rent this.
Anubis 23 I believe if you can hit people in the chest and hit the heart, that can reduce the amount of blood loss as once the heart stops pumping blood only leaks from the wound without the usually pressure and with 5.56 there's less chance of the bullets exiting the body.
i think the most realistic thing about this scene is the way he died, usually in movies a bullet to the face and the guy drops dead instantly, but he way they portrayed it in this scene is pretty similar to the real thing,
Surprised no one else is mention the Taxi Driver homage in the last few moments of this clip; the neck wound, stumbling through the beaded curtain, slumping down on the sofa, its all lifted directly out of that film.
No, I agree with you, its not a rip off, its a very tasteful show of appreciation to one of the greatest films ever made, I love it when film makers include these little nods to their influences. The main reason I commented was in the hope that if anyone reading my comment hasn't already seen Taxi Driver they might check it out, they definitely wont be disappointed!
One of the most realistic gun fight scenes ever. Choreography was on point and the ending was actually a great plot twist if you've watch the entire movie. 10/10
WHAT?! You clearly have no idea about "gun fights". This was one of the most unrealistic and spastic gun fight scene I have seen in a while... PS. Yes his AR didn't have 200 rounds in the magazine, but everything else is just cringe in that scene, not to mention the lack of blood...
@@subfreakuent So you clearly have no idea about "gun fights" in cinema. Compared to other movies, this gunfight truly is one of the most realistic ones - the fact that you see reloads happening is already a massive change from the majority of films. If you actually watch some of the real gunfights you will notice that people dont really explode with blood like it is shown in movies...
@@Lehr-km5be Yeah, if you watch every random trash movie tagged as "action" you might probably come to that conclusion. My point is that this movie scene has nothing to offer but a guy realistically reloading his AR, while his targets spastically jump in front of him, getting riddled with bullets and die without shedding a drop of blood... If this is a "realistic gun fight" in your opinion then you are setting the bar extremely low...
I feel like I'm the only one who sees Miller as a sympathetic villain. "He who fights monsters" and all that. He goes on the roaring rampage of revenge that many a traumatized war veteran has fantasized about (hell, many an average joe has fantasized about), but in the end it solved nothing, got himself killed, and at least one innocent was gunned down. If that's not a scathing criticism against revenge fantasies and Rambo-figures in general, I don't know what is. Great movie though.
The tragic villain or an antivillain as an archetype. The darker shade of gray before going all in. What's interesting the most evil is perpetuated under a faulty logic and/or high emotion, but is acting as if it's totally just. Chaotic. The protagonist becomes disillusioned but rather fully transit into the far more elevated state consciousness. He corresponds with raw anger in the same way because like in his past life duped and used for a agenda that he did have some faculty to dissent or not engage in the 1st place. Likewise in the film and you pointed out he went out fighting but was cost worth it? No, even that one civilian casualty that is too many considering the plausibility he just orphaned a child. He died, no resolution and all this modality of filth lives another day with a flesh wound.
"but in the end it solved nothing" Sure cleaned some dirt off the streets for the short term. That's not "nothing". Perhaps if we had more vigilantes to strike the fear of God into the criminals...
If we had more armed citizens, that would do a lot of good. But not vigilantes. Active Self Protection is a channel that mirrors my views on the subject. Miller didn't manage to kill the gang's leader, nor did he kill all the henchmen. The little boy who killed him will likely grow up hardened and more dangerous than the average criminal. So in the end, all Miller did was prove to some criminals that they can be more violent and decisive than the best vigilante, and they'll be more cautious (and they were already cracking down murderously on any innocents who got in their way). Since movies aren't a great showcase of reality, I recommend Active Self Protection again. Also, Paul Harrell. The latter has been in two self-defense shootings as a civilian, and his insight is wise. (I wish I was as wise as my gamertag username)
@@WisdomThumbs More armed citizens are sorely needed, but that wouldn’t prevent armed gangs from operating. In fact, if the gang decided to eliminate the armed citizen, he wouldn’t stand a chance. So the main difference between what we call “vigilante” and an armed citizen? Whether he surprises the gang and fights them on their turf, or has his home invaded by multiple gangsters when the element of surprise is working for the evil side... Now if this movie was real life, Miller would be better off to invite his friend to join his adventure, and that’s what he’d probably do. A few military veterans would plan the mission carefully and ensure the elimination of all gangsters. A group of vigilantes is more effective than one vigilante. Conclusion: We need more vigilantes, IE, groups of “armed citizens” sweeping and cleaning urban streets. Being that this is America, I guess we can call them, um, a “militia?”
@@yidy1 Fat chance of real state militias ever coming back to America. Even though Americans sorely need the team-building exercises and fieldcraft of Adult Scouts.
You may note it seems he's using a technique called controlled pairs. Two shots one rapidly after the next. In the US Army at least that's the way we were taught doing shoot and move drills.
as someone with combat-experience this is one of the most realistic shootout scenes ive seen so far.. weapon handling and manipulations, his different movements and tactics depending the situation, ballistics behaviour.. gets very close to the real thing
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I’m really curious, but walking out in the open street and not moving from cover to cover dangerous? usually you’d prefer covering fire while moving but he’s one man so shooting while moving is acceptable, but what would you do? I’m interested. Because I’d imagine the thugs wouldn’t run towards the protagonist, but Instead wait for him to pop out, by having everyone aiming at the tree (maybe they aren’t thinking under the adrenaline, who knows
@@LMau-t9r I think he knows he has more firepower so he just wants to bait engagement. He's trying to get somewhere and taking out everything in his way
Yeah, the end kind of spoiled it though. Okay, you've been shot in the neck; you're already dead, why give up and stop returning fire? I did like the use of semi auto fire though.
@@Rozmic He couldn't reload without taking pressure off the neck wound, plus he wasn't really functioning much by then. The camera pans down and we see the blood loss. He knew it was over
I love realistic gunfights like this. You can tell the character the actor is playing lives with many demons inside. The cold unfeeling look he gives at the beginning
Damn, this ending is really depressing, though it really couldn't have ended any other way and stayed realistic. No matter how good of a soldier you are, if you go up against dozens of armed thugs like that in close-quarters shooting, odds are one of the bullets that one of these fuckers shoot at you is gonna hit. At least he took a helluva lot of them with him.
@@kubglo7502 Kid shut the hell up this is literally why vigilante justice is illegal. Just because a party is guilty doesn't mean every single person around them is.
Reminds me ofirefightsinukrkback in05fucking wildwest.thesoundofthegunfirebroughtthemaresrushing backtoo many bad guysur gonnagetsmokedwilli petegrenadeswouldhsveslowedem down.
I actually like this movie. I thought it was just gonna be a shitty action film but it's not. There's something more to it. It's like a character study of some guy who went to war and goes back home to the real world. And I love this final scene. The way he just walks around in the open and not giving a fuck if he gets shot.
I agree with you, this has to be one of the most accurately done fire fight scenes I've ever seen. Even got how the ACOG is actually used closer then most.
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It was upsetting because it reminded me of Omar going down in The Wire, a different situation but they are both effective gunman that ended up getting capped by a kid. Great scene
Yeah I also liked the depiction of a guy who actually knew what he was doing in a firefight. All those little details made that shootout so much better than most.
@luca fresh increases your cardiovascular fitness (you need less oxygen), increases your carbon dioxide tolerance, and helps push out air from your lungs so it's more efficient. Really you should be breathing through your nose 99.9% of the time, even when doing difficult exercise
@luca fresh breathing techniques alone can improve performance in many physical activities, breathing through your nose also keeps your airways from drying out
Yes but when you get into a gunfight adrenaline starts to rush through your body and as a result you mouth breath to get as much air as possible because your in flight or fight mode.
@@cartermanjohn7702 Yes, it does take practice. And it's continuous practice. Still, we're more likely to be hit by a car than killed by a firearm, or die from oil/coal related illness, so it's not worth it imo. Even still, boxing or MMA would still training your fight or flight mode to be better.
I love how this guy get into his shooting stance even as he kills the dude on fire other movies would have had him just hip fire it in some dramatic way
This was really cool until up until the part where he shot through a door in an apartment complex without even knowing what was behind it... that was just bad judgement.
@@bogsy_us it’s one thing to make a risky decision. It’s another to make a fundamental mistake. If he didn’t care about non combatants he would have brought frag grenades and thrown them in every room. It’s a dumb change of character
BizzLeVrai I showed it to him. Basically, he said that this scene ranks pretty high in terms of realism when it comes to movie firefights. However, if it was him during the encounter at 3:25, he would have hunkered down with his superior weapon and shot it out with those two guys from a distance instead of moving up on them. He also made a point that the actor obviously has a pretty high level of weapons training and it shows in his confidence level. This is displayed notably by the fact that a lot of the shooting he does is "reflex/point" shooting where his eye never really aims down the sight at his target despite the fact that he's otherwise using proper stance and technique. While this is sometimes the way to go IRL, generally speaking you're going to have a sight picture at some point during firing, even if it's hardly noticeable.
Safton Yeah that's my main gripe with this scene. He could easily snap shoot them at that range while they're kind of at the limit of accurate handgun shooting for someone who is actually well trained with one. Moving out of cover and into a more effective range for them makes me wince.
@@gorraksmashskull you obviously have never been by or shot an AR . Or anything 5.56 or .223 for arguments sake. I would stop talking brother, your looking like a jackass to people who know their stuff.
Biggest mistake was going in the building without somebody to cover his six. That's the most vulnerable part of you in CQC. Never go in a building alone with hostiles all around.
This registers on so many levels it is unreal. No hollywood bs story. Lot of prep & thought went into this. Director definitely enlisted the best for realisim. Bringing the war home and walking into another war at home. Krazy.
The Heygate Estate used to be a magnet for photographers - it was a big mostly-deserted housing estate just next to Elephant & Castle. It was actually quite nice towards the end, the foliage was reclaiming it. It's odd to see an action film set there. It was knocked down a couple of years ago in order to keep house prices high.
This has to be the WORST display of "military tactics" i've ever seen. Everything he did in this scene would have gotten him killed in combat...bad gunplay is just painful to watch
@@admiralspire8867 It goes further. Many gang members who stay clean enough join the military for next level training. It is why the military has a thing about certain kinds of tattoos... too many people who made good soldiers in the Army also made good soldiers in the streets of LA.
Press checks in the intro, tops off fresh mags in between engagements, alternating high-low on the corners, effective use of his acog and rmr. great scene!....probably shoulda picked up the pace on his MOBILITY as he strolled into the house. Violence of action was down pat though!
Yeah, but a good example of why you never roll alone. You can only be looking in one direction at a time. Second part of Rule 1 of a gunfight: "....bring all your friends who have guns."
Very disciplined kept calm and advanced. When he took down a civilian he knew he was done. Emotions took over and he went in blind not watching his 6. Still, well done except in the end. No real gangster would let a child take such a prize away. Out of respect it must be a man to take out a man.
Quite possible the most realistic(asfarashollywoodgoes) gunfight in a movie thats been released in the last 30 years. Better than Way of the Gun, Heat, Collateral, The Town, Sicario etc etc... Toby Keibel put time and work into this role. Great directing, with a serious and fatal ending.
92% on the combat accuracy scale. The lack of tactical movement in open spaces and the fact he can hear a baby cry and slight foot steps after dozens of 5.56 rounds without ear pro take the score down. His reloads were smooth and done when necessary, his shot placement was effective, not when he shot the lady tho. I’m gonna say still super well executed.
Can't if 5-19 jits are running into your bullets and dividing and spray and pray you gotta lay some fire down for cover while your running in the open he did which is why it costed the hit because of lack of brain power to know that man was spraying to get to that tree line to pick them off one by one😂😂😂
Im curious how gunfights really work and what gives you an edge in this type of situation, what you gotta watch out for etc. Is there any book or documentary about these tactics? Someone please, reply!
Good realistic 2 - 3 shots with good fire and manoeuvre. Looks like he was counting his shots and impressed how he used his backup/secondary weapon at the end
..so yeah, it HAS happened..if you wanna get technical. The BCO + ACOG duo on top of the AR rail makes it more modern and believable (as its kinda the standard among operators now) and the fact that its not a bunch of full auto but instead, well placed and realistic looking groupings of shots. I saw this movie and loved its weird and unique pace. It goes slow, then ends with just the most hardcore smoke session I've seen on screen. Good job, UK. Killer movie...Make more about similar men in SF
I have siblings in the military so I can usually tell when a movie's fight scenes are bullshit and I was very impressed with this movie. I also like how he doesn't quite manage to kill like 60 people in a building all by himself and survive, yet you still get to watch him kick some serious ass.
Power is not everything. On a lot of occasions light weight and number of rounds carried are more important. The M4 / 5.56 is a good weapon/round provided the operator knows what they're doing, it's not a weapon that can be mastered by amateurs within minutes, it takes a lot of training. For this shooting scenario it is an ideal weapon, compactness perfect for the CQC and tight corners, his opponents are all at ranges less than 100 meters where this weapon/round are ideal.
I think its more about the abruptness of the ending than the actual content of it. Either way that whole gang is now dead so mission accomplished i'd say.
Never seen a comment section filled with this many armchair warriors its a movie and a good scene at that just enjoy it for what it is. And for those combat veterans down here thank you for your service.
In reality though, he's just one guy, no matter how skillful. In that kind of urban environment he would be quickly outflanked on all sides (and multiple levels too!) and that would be it.
@@jbfoster3949 He is, but being in a gang doesn't necessarily mean that everybody is a complete retard. We're talking basic tactics that anyone who's ever taken part in a snowball fight or played a bit of Nintendo has picked up as a matter of course.
@@Stripedbottom problem is you don't have the fear of death put into you through a game of paintball or a game. The sound is deafening in every sense of the word, the guy uses rifle caliber, and isn't dumb enough to spray and pray. No one with half a brain would want to risk dying when other shmhucks can do it for them.
@@dandydasyt4766 True. But in that case, the way this scene should go is that he shoots - maybe just wounds - a couple of guys, and the rest leg it, then he does what he wants. (Would probably be very realistic too) However, if the premise of the film is that they are fanatical enough to stand and fight, then they stand and fight. And, if it's just one man against many, they will not do so as a one confused frontal attack, at least not very long. Some of them will almost instinctively start to outflank him - after all, against a single individual they have almost complete freedom of movement anyway - and then it will be very soon all over. It's a very cool scene overall and I really enjoyed watching it, but would it go down like this in real life? I highly doubt it.
Veteran my ass, u never walk in the middle of the street exposing yourself, nor should you ever aim ur gun towards the ground under any circumstances when u are constantly moving around in enemy territory
You keep your rifle down unless you feel like flagging your position... especially as one man. You have to be able to transition smoothly if you aren't in a fire team. That then boils down to reaction time. Keeping your rifle up all the time is a no go. Plus, the way he had his rifle allowed him easier access to his secondary weapon system.
When you're alone you can focus ahead and you can look behind you. You can switch between these on and off but you can't do both at exactly the same time simultaneously. You're inevitably going to receive fire from one or the other, perhaps even both. People aren't psychic. 1-man maneuvers are literally an exercise in dilemmas, just dilemma after dilemma after dilemma based on split-second probabilities and you can still be hit from the sector that you deemed to be the lowest probability in any instance.
he had done wanted he wanted to do ie kill most of the gang and he was bothered if he died, because he had a death wish, he wanted to die but do what he throught was something good.
In the end when the bad guy walks in, you can see the dread in his eyes realising what a single soldier did to many of his guys, most of whom he picked straight out of broken homes. Yes, against a dozen rampaging idiots, one single expert can't do much... but the other way around, and one single expert can singlehandedly disable, if not destroy, a dozen idiots. I loved this film. So visceral.
Actually this scene is pretty realistic. "Doubletap headshot" is a prime example of Hollywood fluff. You aim at the center mass, double tap, and one in the head in you have the opportunity. This scene showcases how a warfighter has the advantage over a bunch of street thugs in a firefight. He doesn't spray and pray. He hits center mass, and he closes distance while covering himself. They had good choreography and advice for this scene. Don't comment back if you aren't in the military
As someone who recently installed a toilet I can say this is one of the most realistic shootout scenes I’ve ever seen.
The gritty realism of walking round B&Q
Looks like you never seen
"Heat"
@@martinestrada2676Did you know all special forces worldwide are trained by Val Kilmer?
@@Some1ElsesFutureSelf and don’t forget robert deniro
@@Some1ElsesFutureSelf Actually true, probably not at tier 1 or tier 2 levels, but footage from the movie Heat is used as a visual aid of the proper combat reload that val Kilmer does during the getaway scene in that film.
What makes this chillingly real is that he reloads almost every time. I'm tired of movies where the good guy can fire 1,000 rounds from a single magazine. LOL. Very realistic moves and weapon usage. Will definitely go and rent this.
+largol33t1
It's... sort of a shitty movie other than this scene, honestly.
Safton
True but at the same time there was BARELY any blood.
Anubis 23 I believe if you can hit people in the chest and hit the heart, that can reduce the amount of blood loss as once the heart stops pumping blood only leaks from the wound without the usually pressure and with 5.56 there's less chance of the bullets exiting the body.
i think the most realistic thing about this scene is the way he died, usually in movies a bullet to the face and the guy drops dead instantly, but he way they portrayed it in this scene is pretty similar to the real thing,
That ending is so chillingly real. That is how you lose a gunfight even when you are a boss.
While learning rifle training in the civilian world I was told a one man offense is suicide
Thats why drones and hand grenades exist, nuke them from orbit
Заходить в здание в одиночку, где находится группа вооруженных людей, это однозначно самоубийство.
Слишком много скрытых помещений.
Yep. Two is One. One is None. I mean, unless you’re Obi Wan Nairobi. Slow is Smooth. Smooth is Fast. Sincerely, Secret Squirrel
@@TaijiFitWC That dude is the real deal.
Surprised no one else is mention the Taxi Driver homage in the last few moments of this clip; the neck wound, stumbling through the beaded curtain, slumping down on the sofa, its all lifted directly out of that film.
Blacklava makes it cooler
No, I agree with you, its not a rip off, its a very tasteful show of appreciation to one of the greatest films ever made, I love it when film makers include these little nods to their influences. The main reason I commented was in the hope that if anyone reading my comment hasn't already seen Taxi Driver they might check it out, they definitely wont be disappointed!
Blacklava i especially love the part where he gets shot in the shoulder then switches to full auto. he was like Batao in ghost in the shell badass
With the little sleeve gun contraption? I agree, possibly the most badass shootout in cinema history!
Blacklava damn thats in taxi driver too lol never noticed
One of the most realistic gun fight scenes ever. Choreography was on point and the ending was actually a great plot twist if you've watch the entire movie. 10/10
You should watch Way Of The Gun too if you like realistic gunfights. Neat lil movie
WHAT?! You clearly have no idea about "gun fights". This was one of the most unrealistic and spastic gun fight scene I have seen in a while...
PS. Yes his AR didn't have 200 rounds in the magazine, but everything else is just cringe in that scene, not to mention the lack of blood...
@@subfreakuentwhat I will say is they don't really have that budget.
@@subfreakuent So you clearly have no idea about "gun fights" in cinema. Compared to other movies, this gunfight truly is one of the most realistic ones - the fact that you see reloads happening is already a massive change from the majority of films.
If you actually watch some of the real gunfights you will notice that people dont really explode with blood like it is shown in movies...
@@Lehr-km5be Yeah, if you watch every random trash movie tagged as "action" you might probably come to that conclusion.
My point is that this movie scene has nothing to offer but a guy realistically reloading his AR, while his targets spastically jump in front of him, getting riddled with bullets and die without shedding a drop of blood...
If this is a "realistic gun fight" in your opinion then you are setting the bar extremely low...
I feel like I'm the only one who sees Miller as a sympathetic villain. "He who fights monsters" and all that. He goes on the roaring rampage of revenge that many a traumatized war veteran has fantasized about (hell, many an average joe has fantasized about), but in the end it solved nothing, got himself killed, and at least one innocent was gunned down. If that's not a scathing criticism against revenge fantasies and Rambo-figures in general, I don't know what is.
Great movie though.
The tragic villain or an antivillain as an archetype. The darker shade of gray before going all in.
What's interesting the most evil is perpetuated under a faulty logic and/or high emotion, but is acting as if it's totally just. Chaotic.
The protagonist becomes disillusioned but rather fully transit into the far more elevated state consciousness. He corresponds with raw anger in the same way because like in his past life duped and used for a agenda that he did have some faculty to dissent or not engage in the 1st place.
Likewise in the film and you pointed out he went out fighting but was cost worth it? No, even that one civilian casualty that is too many considering the plausibility he just orphaned a child. He died, no resolution and all this modality of filth lives another day with a flesh wound.
"but in the end it solved nothing"
Sure cleaned some dirt off the streets for the short term. That's not "nothing".
Perhaps if we had more vigilantes to strike the fear of God into the criminals...
If we had more armed citizens, that would do a lot of good. But not vigilantes. Active Self Protection is a channel that mirrors my views on the subject.
Miller didn't manage to kill the gang's leader, nor did he kill all the henchmen. The little boy who killed him will likely grow up hardened and more dangerous than the average criminal. So in the end, all Miller did was prove to some criminals that they can be more violent and decisive than the best vigilante, and they'll be more cautious (and they were already cracking down murderously on any innocents who got in their way).
Since movies aren't a great showcase of reality, I recommend Active Self Protection again. Also, Paul Harrell. The latter has been in two self-defense shootings as a civilian, and his insight is wise. (I wish I was as wise as my gamertag username)
@@WisdomThumbs
More armed citizens are sorely needed, but that wouldn’t prevent armed gangs from operating. In fact, if the gang decided to eliminate the armed citizen, he wouldn’t stand a chance. So the main difference between what we call “vigilante” and an armed citizen? Whether he surprises the gang and fights them on their turf, or has his home invaded by multiple gangsters when the element of surprise is working for the evil side...
Now if this movie was real life, Miller would be better off to invite his friend to join his adventure, and that’s what he’d probably do. A few military veterans would plan the mission carefully and ensure the elimination of all gangsters. A group of vigilantes is more effective than one vigilante. Conclusion: We need more vigilantes, IE, groups of “armed citizens” sweeping and cleaning urban streets. Being that this is America, I guess we can call them, um, a “militia?”
@@yidy1 Fat chance of real state militias ever coming back to America. Even though Americans sorely need the team-building exercises and fieldcraft of Adult Scouts.
Semi Auto only.
You don't see that anymore in the movies.
Probably because they wanted to stick to as realistic of a film as possible. Also as a veteran he probably shot semi auto 90% of the time anyways
its the best way to hit something dingus
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1:30 was automatic
You may note it seems he's using a technique called controlled pairs. Two shots one rapidly after the next. In the US Army at least that's the way we were taught doing shoot and move drills.
as someone with combat-experience this is one of the most realistic shootout scenes ive seen so far.. weapon handling and manipulations, his different movements and tactics depending the situation, ballistics behaviour.. gets very close to the real thing
HOOAH Brother..
I was thinking along those lines as well..I,noticed that he used the scope very little,wasting a lot of Ammo..
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@@Sgt-xw5lxWith experience you can shoot >20 m accurately without fully using the sights.
I’m really curious, but walking out in the open street and not moving from cover to cover dangerous? usually you’d prefer covering fire while moving but he’s one man so shooting while moving is acceptable, but what would you do? I’m interested. Because I’d imagine the thugs wouldn’t run towards the protagonist, but Instead wait for him to pop out, by having everyone aiming at the tree (maybe they aren’t thinking under the adrenaline, who knows
@@LMau-t9r I think he knows he has more firepower so he just wants to bait engagement. He's trying to get somewhere and taking out everything in his way
Finger off trigger when not firing? Good use of cover? No sparking bullets? A nice gunfight scene!
Yeah, the end kind of spoiled it though. Okay, you've been shot in the neck; you're already dead, why give up and stop returning fire?
I did like the use of semi auto fire though.
Rozmic I think it was because that was the kid he had been trying to help for the whole of the movie.
Rozmic Try being wounded and reloading a clearly empty pistol... much harder with the shock of injury, I'm afraid...
@@Rozmic He couldn't reload without taking pressure off the neck wound, plus he wasn't really functioning much by then. The camera pans down and we see the blood loss.
He knew it was over
Moving slowly out in the open with a million spots to be shot from? VERY NICE.
I love realistic gunfights like this. You can tell the character the actor is playing lives with many demons inside. The cold unfeeling look he gives at the beginning
Damn, this ending is really depressing, though it really couldn't have ended any other way and stayed realistic. No matter how good of a soldier you are, if you go up against dozens of armed thugs like that in close-quarters shooting, odds are one of the bullets that one of these fuckers shoot at you is gonna hit. At least he took a helluva lot of them with him.
He clapped an innocent, too....
@@bobdadnaila7708 thats war for you. The ideals of two sides causing innocents to get hurt
@@kubglo7502 Kid shut the hell up this is literally why vigilante justice is illegal. Just because a party is guilty doesn't mean every single person around them is.
Reminds me ofirefightsinukrkback in05fucking wildwest.thesoundofthegunfirebroughtthemaresrushing backtoo many bad guysur gonnagetsmokedwilli petegrenadeswouldhsveslowedem down.
Kirkuk!
I actually like this movie. I thought it was just gonna be a shitty action film but it's not. There's something more to it. It's like a character study of some guy who went to war and goes back home to the real world. And I love this final scene. The way he just walks around in the open and not giving a fuck if he gets shot.
I agree with you, this has to be one of the most accurately done fire fight scenes I've ever seen. Even got how the ACOG is actually used closer then most.
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Most realistic gunfight I’ve seen in a movie. Reloads, shot a non combatant by bad judgment like would happen in real gunfights.
It was upsetting because it reminded me of Omar going down in The Wire, a different situation but they are both effective gunman that ended up getting capped by a kid. Great scene
Yeah I also liked the depiction of a guy who actually knew what he was doing in a firefight. All those little details made that shootout so much better than most.
i did not think he was going to die, but that just adds to the realism of this movie and i love it
He could have gone through unscathed. After all, not all get wounded, in this kind of scenario. But well.
lol the guy with the Molotov cocktail that plan really backfired
+will reed Literally lol
Screw that mercy kill.
Let the bitch burn
he got badly burned.
Jay C
“It went well until I started to feel a burning rash on my thunder-rod.”
It happened IRL at a BLM rally last summer...funny as hell....you might still be able to find the video....dude was all on fire screaming.
If you ever get into a fight, breathe through your nose if you want to last longer than a minute. This guy in a firefight is really good
correct
@luca fresh increases your cardiovascular fitness (you need less oxygen), increases your carbon dioxide tolerance, and helps push out air from your lungs so it's more efficient. Really you should be breathing through your nose 99.9% of the time, even when doing difficult exercise
@luca fresh breathing techniques alone can improve performance in many physical activities, breathing through your nose also keeps your airways from drying out
Yes but when you get into a gunfight adrenaline starts to rush through your body and as a result you mouth breath to get as much air as possible because your in flight or fight mode.
@@cartermanjohn7702 Yes, it does take practice. And it's continuous practice. Still, we're more likely to be hit by a car than killed by a firearm, or die from oil/coal related illness, so it's not worth it imo.
Even still, boxing or MMA would still training your fight or flight mode to be better.
I love how this guy get into his shooting stance even as he kills the dude on fire other movies would have had him just hip fire it in some dramatic way
This was really cool until up until the part where he shot through a door in an apartment complex without even knowing what was behind it... that was just bad judgement.
It cost him his plot armor.
The whole thing was bad judgement. That's the point.
@@bogsy_us it’s one thing to make a risky decision. It’s another to make a fundamental mistake. If he didn’t care about non combatants he would have brought frag grenades and thrown them in every room. It’s a dumb change of character
that suppression and advance.
Yeah, I'm gonna show this to my buddy in the 75th and see what he thinks of it.
Safton lets me know
BizzLeVrai
I showed it to him. Basically, he said that this scene ranks pretty high in terms of realism when it comes to movie firefights. However, if it was him during the encounter at 3:25, he would have hunkered down with his superior weapon and shot it out with those two guys from a distance instead of moving up on them.
He also made a point that the actor obviously has a pretty high level of weapons training and it shows in his confidence level. This is displayed notably by the fact that a lot of the shooting he does is "reflex/point" shooting where his eye never really aims down the sight at his target despite the fact that he's otherwise using proper stance and technique. While this is sometimes the way to go IRL, generally speaking you're going to have a sight picture at some point during firing, even if it's hardly noticeable.
Safton Yeah that's my main gripe with this scene. He could easily snap shoot them at that range while they're kind of at the limit of accurate handgun shooting for someone who is actually well trained with one. Moving out of cover and into a more effective range for them makes me wince.
+BizzLeVrai Big thing that made me wince was the fact he willingly exposed himself during the stroll down the block. Big no-no in hostile fire.
looks realistic like the heat shootout scene...n the gun sound was awsome.
Glad someone noticed. All live sound, no sound fx at all if I remember correctly. Still proud of the way it worked out.
I guess its pretty good for the budget they probably had but cmon, the sounds of the weapons are not that good, and defo not comparable to heat.
@@John.AR.Activism Pretty real. 5.56 is not so loud
@@gorraksmashskull 5.56 is one of the loudest rifle rounds IMO.
@@gorraksmashskull you obviously have never been by or shot an AR . Or anything 5.56 or .223 for arguments sake. I would stop talking brother, your looking like a jackass to people who know their stuff.
ACOG with an RMR piggyback in 2011? ... his kit was on point.
We still rocking that setup in 2024 babyyyy 🗣
Only thing I hate is his Ak style Maglink wish he had them the same way for a faster more
Proficient reload
Miller had nothing left to lose or live for so it decided to go out in a bang. I can respect that.
Biggest mistake was going in the building without somebody to cover his six. That's the most vulnerable part of you in CQC. Never go in a building alone with hostiles all around.
Its a movie dawg, it was in the script to go alone.
Haha, just a movie!
He definitely knew that but it’s pretty clear he’s on a one way trip
This registers on so many levels it is unreal. No hollywood bs story.
Lot of prep & thought went into this. Director definitely enlisted the best for realisim. Bringing the war home and walking into another war at home. Krazy.
One of the realest movie/scene I've ever seen. It's a must watch!
And as always,... Have nice day
Love your videos man
Fuck off fps Russia is a dick claims to be firearms expert knew next to fuck all on sa80 a1 I mean called susat acog sight lol
The silence on this scene makes all the difference
who else got here from searching up realistic shootout scene
Ehehe.
not me
and this scene isn't realistic at all wtf
haha me man but this shit aint that
word for word
one of the best & realistic british movie i have ever seen.9.8 out of 10.defo recommended...
The facial expressions,
the guy with the (M16?) really looked nervous and focused at the same time, very realistic.
Hey, finally someone that reloads in real time
The Heygate Estate used to be a magnet for photographers - it was a big mostly-deserted housing estate just next to Elephant & Castle. It was actually quite nice towards the end, the foliage was reclaiming it. It's odd to see an action film set there. It was knocked down a couple of years ago in order to keep house prices high.
Keep house prices high. Charming. :-/
@@Briselance gentrification at its finest..
You're going to hear wheezing from punctured lungs, agonizing whines from sheer pain, and death rattles and snores. These people drop like mannequins.
Epic scene! Very nice progression and epic displpay of military tactics. If only the shots didn't sound like BBs...
This has to be the WORST display of "military tactics" i've ever seen. Everything he did in this scene would have gotten him killed in combat...bad gunplay is just painful to watch
Jason Watts and you must know a whole bunch about that.
Jason Watts You clearly know nothing about "military tactics"...
What do you mean sound like BBs? You referring to the hits on walls and trees?
@@poppasmurf15well if you watch the movie he doesn’t care he killed all of them this was just to send a message.
The most realistic movie shootout I've seen
Buddy wasted 16 thugs before Andre3000 and his son took him out.. awesome scene!
Andre?
Cee Woo
Yes, shake it like a polaroid picture.
Very well shot shootout. I watched the whole movie after seeing this 😎👍
The weapon handling in this scene is very good for a movie. A number of movies have gotten it right in the last few years (even Hollywood).
Gangs can t stand against army soldiers
Not street gangs but organized gangs such as the Cartels Russian Mafia etc they can
Adam Abdullahi not if the army was aloud to operate properly they wouldnt
uk spartan 2 Some organized gangs employ army veterans and seasoned mercenaries.
@@admiralspire8867 Facts. Exactly how paramilitary organizations are formed.
@@admiralspire8867 It goes further. Many gang members who stay clean enough join the military for next level training. It is why the military has a thing about certain kinds of tattoos... too many people who made good soldiers in the Army also made good soldiers in the streets of LA.
He used the M4's sights. You never see that in movies.
David Brock had a front sight but up was using a Trijicon ACOG
another good shootout is from the film HEAT robert di niro and al pacino....1 of my best all time movies
Andy McNabb was advisor on that
Press checks in the intro, tops off fresh mags in between engagements, alternating high-low on the corners, effective use of his acog and rmr. great scene!....probably shoulda picked up the pace on his MOBILITY as he strolled into the house. Violence of action was down pat though!
Thank you very much.
Yeah, but a good example of why you never roll alone. You can only be looking in one direction at a time.
Second part of Rule 1 of a gunfight: "....bring all your friends who have guns."
Yeah well u fucked if u are the only one armed in your friends group
Thats a deadly man. The mind makes a person deadly. He is in complete control. I've seen men like this, I knew men like this.
@BuckGreywolfe shit happens. You can't control everything, but you can control yourself. Thats all I meant.
Very disciplined kept calm and advanced. When he took down a civilian he knew he was done. Emotions took over and he went in blind not watching his 6. Still, well done except in the end. No real gangster would let a child take such a prize away. Out of respect it must be a man to take out a man.
Not many bangers left to make that call, my man.
People drop like puppets with their strings cut when they get shot, nice touch there. None of that dramatic hollywood deaths lol
Quite possible the most realistic(asfarashollywoodgoes) gunfight in a movie thats been released in the last 30 years. Better than Way of the Gun, Heat, Collateral, The Town, Sicario etc etc... Toby Keibel put time and work into this role. Great directing, with a serious and fatal ending.
Giant sack of hot garbage yup, plus Larrys already done Heat foo
Heat and collateral blow this away.
I know i know Heat is the ultimate, i mean with Mick Gould advising for firearms and training, its gonna be the best.
@@Jonnnn_5when you have better funding and Hollywood yeah it’s better but for a movie with 2million that’s crazy.
Sicario comes pretty close, but i agree
92% on the combat accuracy scale. The lack of tactical movement in open spaces and the fact he can hear a baby cry and slight foot steps after dozens of 5.56 rounds without ear pro take the score down. His reloads were smooth and done when necessary, his shot placement was effective, not when he shot the lady tho. I’m gonna say still super well executed.
Rule 1. Make every shot count.
2, always look behind you.
3, kill everyone.
Can't if 5-19 jits are running into your bullets and dividing and spray and pray you gotta lay some fire down for cover while your running in the open he did which is why it costed the hit because of lack of brain power to know that man was spraying to get to that tree line to pick them off one by one😂😂😂
Im curious how gunfights really work and what gives you an edge in this type of situation, what you gotta watch out for etc. Is there any book or documentary about these tactics? Someone please, reply!
Look up Andy McNab.
Its all about who shoots and hits first.
The guy : * kills an innocent lady
God : so have chosen death
Best/most realistic shootouts:
1. The Way of the Gun
2. Heat
3. The Veteran
:)
Nah the way of the gun its not realistic because they have infinite ammo
The thing lacking in realism is his cool attitude of walking straight into plain sight. No proper checking, covering etc...
i keep playing this scene. so good!
Why haven't I heard about this movie ??
Looks siiick !!
British films always go under the radar but are always top of the range
Good realistic 2 - 3 shots with good fire and manoeuvre. Looks like he was counting his shots and impressed how he used his backup/secondary weapon at the end
This guy was more Punisher than Netflix's Punisher.
what if he had a partner?! Pro on solo: Heroic; Pro works with another pro: Professional
That's how you deal with trash. One round at a time.
Was this filmed in Thamesmead?
It also looked like his pistol was empty and he would have to take the pressure off his neck to reload it.
..so yeah, it HAS happened..if you wanna get technical. The BCO + ACOG duo on top of the AR rail makes it more modern and believable (as its kinda the standard among operators now) and the fact that its not a bunch of full auto but instead, well placed and realistic looking groupings of shots. I saw this movie and loved its weird and unique pace. It goes slow, then ends with just the most hardcore smoke session I've seen on screen. Good job, UK. Killer movie...Make more about similar men in SF
when you're free roaming in gta and your bored and decide to shoot up an NPC gang turf
I have siblings in the military so I can usually tell when a movie's fight scenes are bullshit and I was very impressed with this movie. I also like how he doesn't quite manage to kill like 60 people in a building all by himself and survive, yet you still get to watch him kick some serious ass.
You don’t see the “ dash in front and toss a Molotov cocktail “ move very often
I think we all know why...
Violence of action is a spot on assessment of this guy.
The day someone does this in reality, taming the chav population, the nation shall cheer!
not in today america they'll consider it a white supremacist killing blacks
Renegade Rancor
SJW losers would probably say that about the Punisher...
No the day Vigilantly Justice is praised. It's will be the day I start losing hope in society.
I mean, that's almost exactly what it would be
What’s this move ? Please !
www.imdb.com/title/tt1653700/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1
4:15 imagine him going up the stairs to be met with akimbos .357
Guy with the akimbo 357s would probably miss tbh.
Awesome #Gunfight scene
ABSOLUTELY DESPISE THE ENDING --
Power is not everything. On a lot of occasions light weight and number of rounds carried are more important. The M4 / 5.56 is a good weapon/round provided the operator knows what they're doing, it's not a weapon that can be mastered by amateurs within minutes, it takes a lot of training. For this shooting scenario it is an ideal weapon, compactness perfect for the CQC and tight corners, his opponents are all at ranges less than 100 meters where this weapon/round are ideal.
Now shows are for boyz n girls of la la land. Thx for this.
He's so good, he doesn't use his sights.
Except that he did.
Awesome use of double taps and trigger reset
I think its more about the abruptness of the ending than the actual content of it. Either way that whole gang is now dead so mission accomplished i'd say.
Never seen a comment section filled with this many armchair warriors its a movie and a good scene at that just enjoy it for what it is.
And for those combat veterans down here thank you for your service.
Does he ever use his sight? Pretty damn good instinctive shooter.
This is one of the best shooting scenes!
Imagine what 6 of these guys can do
Is this the S&W MP15 SPORT2 that he is using?
In reality though, he's just one guy, no matter how skillful. In that kind of urban environment he would be quickly outflanked on all sides (and multiple levels too!) and that would be it.
True, but isnt he fighting street gangs?
@@jbfoster3949 He is, but being in a gang doesn't necessarily mean that everybody is a complete retard. We're talking basic tactics that anyone who's ever taken part in a snowball fight or played a bit of Nintendo has picked up as a matter of course.
@@Stripedbottom problem is you don't have the fear of death put into you through a game of paintball or a game. The sound is deafening in every sense of the word, the guy uses rifle caliber, and isn't dumb enough to spray and pray. No one with half a brain would want to risk dying when other shmhucks can do it for them.
@@dandydasyt4766 True. But in that case, the way this scene should go is that he shoots - maybe just wounds - a couple of guys, and the rest leg it, then he does what he wants. (Would probably be very realistic too) However, if the premise of the film is that they are fanatical enough to stand and fight, then they stand and fight. And, if it's just one man against many, they will not do so as a one confused frontal attack, at least not very long. Some of them will almost instinctively start to outflank him - after all, against a single individual they have almost complete freedom of movement anyway - and then it will be very soon all over. It's a very cool scene overall and I really enjoyed watching it, but would it go down like this in real life? I highly doubt it.
Whats the name of the jacket he has on? Please!
Veteran my ass, u never walk in the middle of the street exposing yourself, nor should you ever aim ur gun towards the ground under any circumstances when u are constantly moving around in enemy territory
Thank God, I thought I was the only person who thought that. I especially got annoyed at the stairs around 4:00.
***** sometimes, NOTHING beats Mindset, experience and PRACTICE!
That's why he died! he was not super hero
+0955interactive i agree with you but i thought he got a little to confident..
You keep your rifle down unless you feel like flagging your position... especially as one man. You have to be able to transition smoothly if you aren't in a fire team. That then boils down to reaction time. Keeping your rifle up all the time is a no go. Plus, the way he had his rifle allowed him easier access to his secondary weapon system.
IDK so what is the movies name,Blacklava?
If you are a ex perratrooper you would have the idea of looking behind you.
It's spelled, Paratrooper.
When you're alone you can focus ahead and you can look behind you. You can switch between these on and off but you can't do both at exactly the same time simultaneously. You're inevitably going to receive fire from one or the other, perhaps even both. People aren't psychic. 1-man maneuvers are literally an exercise in dilemmas, just dilemma after dilemma after dilemma based on split-second probabilities and you can still be hit from the sector that you deemed to be the lowest probability in any instance.
Great movie! i saw it a couples of days ago! :D
5:00 we just gonna ignore that? Ok.
collateral kills are realistic as well I guess
He was standing there, looking down at what he did. As long as they did not start firing at him again. Then there is no more looking around
Isn't that place the massive council estate that used to be in Elephant and Castle?
he had done wanted he wanted to do ie kill most of the gang and he was bothered if he died, because he had a death wish, he wanted to die but do what he throught was something good.
One of the most realistic shooting scenes in movie history.
In the end when the bad guy walks in, you can see the dread in his eyes realising what a single soldier did to many of his guys, most of whom he picked straight out of broken homes. Yes, against a dozen rampaging idiots, one single expert can't do much... but the other way around, and one single expert can singlehandedly disable, if not destroy, a dozen idiots.
I loved this film. So visceral.
Actually this scene is pretty realistic. "Doubletap headshot" is a prime example of Hollywood fluff. You aim at the center mass, double tap, and one in the head in you have the opportunity.
This scene showcases how a warfighter has the advantage over a bunch of street thugs in a firefight. He doesn't spray and pray. He hits center mass, and he closes distance while covering himself. They had good choreography and advice for this scene.
Don't comment back if you aren't in the military
The first enemy contact proved Tuco right.
"When you got to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."
Hahaha I bought this movie just to watch this part, and I just found out its on "TH-cam" fuck!!
Thats the lad from "Dead Mans Shoes"?
And black mirror and rock n rolla
*HA!!!..See the guy Bunny Hop at **01:54** ....lol*