Why Fix Old Machines Like This Green Machine Trimmer
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Why would anyone fix old equipment like this? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Nothing better than fixing your own stuff, whether it's cars, houses, or lawn equipment. You get the satisfaction every time you use it! Great video!
Couldn't agree more!
Right on
I love working on older small engine equipment. When you see how things have changed an how much better the older stuff was it makes it worth it to save them
I completely agree.
Had a Green Machine that I bought new in the 80's...perhaps a model up from yours as it was a trimmer and had a scary brush cutting blade. Got to the point where I could no longer repair it and gave it away a year ago to someone who was trying to repair a similar machine. Great machine and years of trouble free use. Replaced it with an old Red Max that I pulled out of a dumpster...new carb and it runs like a champ. Love the old machines.
Thanks for sharing Gary T, and it was nice of you to give it to someone else to use on theirs.
We use to sell green machine. They were a very dependable and powerful trimmer. Hope you enjoy your trimmer. I enjoy my old stuff
I am retired but enjoy tinkering with old stuff. Hope I can pass along my hobbies to my grandchildren. Thank you for your channel. Kids need something besides video games.
thank you Linda Osborne, not sure if my kids will do anything like this
but it's their life to live.
8:08 this hobby gives you contrast to your regular job
you got that right, it's a far cry from the work I do everyday.
I definitely would. I have got an 1960s mac 10-10 chainsaw that l rebuilt, modified the cylinder, blew it up, and now am in the process of getting parts to rebuild it again. Yeah the money involved in this saw was already more than its worth before l blew it up. So as far as money is concerned l have lost. But l like the challenge of fixing and using something more than twice my age. And once it is fixed l will have learned a lot, and that makes it worth it to me.
thank you Ethan Miller, challenges can bring a lot of meaning to a project.
@@HomeGaragechannel Yes they do. And they also bring headaches...
I love working on old engines and machines. I have learned most can be brought back to life. Yes parts are hard to come by but my experience shows me that older machine parts just need to be cleaned or tweaked for life again. Newer machines are mostly throw away when they break. Oh heck everything going to batteries now. A new learning curve is around the corner!😢
yes, they don't want the newer stuff to last.
The engine was made by Shindaiwa, it was known as a T-25. The T-25 had two carbs, one like in the video, and a "piston type" which was more dominant. HMC/Green Machine (we sold them for years) used various from Shindaiwa, McCulloch (the Echo clone), Mitsubishi, and Fuji-Robin. We sold the Shindaiwa, McCullock, & Echo. Great machines. HMC's split boom was the grand daddy of the current split boom trimmers like from Ryobi. Believe it or not, the HMC Green Machine with the McCulloch engine was a great machine, and solid performer. We old OPE guys have a wish list, I'd love to see the McCulloch engine make a come back.
thank you and me too! I miss the older engines too.
Shindaiwa (pre-Echo merger) is the greatest equipment imo. Nothing against Echo, it's great too.
Fixing and using an old piece of equipment , particularly one I picked up for little or no money is for me one of the greatest pleasures of this hobby and as you rightly say materials and build quality are often superior. Manufacturers are driven by profit and so will try to sell you this seasons must have product which in reality is very often inferior to the old stuff.
can't agree with you more.
I have and will continue to work on equipment older than me. It's interesting knowing the machine has seen more time on earth than me, yet it is still my preferred piece of equipment
I know right, it just say a lot about their build quality over the stuff
from today.
@Home Garage the 31cc upside-down ryobi is my tool of choice, although it's toughto work on, as well as Lawn Boy's, as you probably know by now, haha!
I like using them for sure, and yes the maintenance is less than enjoyable
Bought a 90s sears craftsman chainsaw yesterday plan on fixing it this weekend paid 10 bucks for it plan on keeping it because I love old stuff and I'm 21
nice, good luck with it.
I enjoy watching these old machine repairs..👍🙏👍🙏they don’t built them like they use too
I agree with you
I still currently use my Mountfeild Multitrim Model 37 (1990) with a Zenoah G4C Engine. Absolutely flawless kit of trimming engineering! I prefer the older models to the modern ones. The only newest one I have is a Spears and Jackson from 2007! :D
yes, the older machines were fantastic!
I have a Wright reciprocating saw. Your choice of words, "Until the day you find it interesting enough to try to fix it." made me rethink me plane of just yesterday to try to sell it on one of the online venues. Thank you for sharing and stay safe.
thank you Dwayne Madsen
Love that I scored a stihl fs80 with the bike handlebar and amazon has every part that you could ever need for the older stihl equipment for cheap
yes it's nice to be able to get parts for a project
Hit the nail on the head HG working on newer machines can be boring that is why I am glad I take in a few flips here and there . Chasing a wire on a riding mower with its safety switch’s to get it to turn over then working on the engine to get it to start all adds up to a satisfaction of accomplishment that roll’s over to fixing a customers machine. Also if I can get a say a rider mower a new lease on life and sell it to someone who need’s a rider but does not want to spend thousands of dollars to have one that feels great also . But truth be told I am a troubleshooter at heart and have amazing patience which helps
well said, the price of the new riders, is insane!
Great video, the answer to your question is yes, I would definitely work on and fix older equipment, I love older equipment hence why I collect vintage chainsaws.
you and me both.
Most definitely would!! Any day of the week!! Good video..
me too!
Definitely yes! Right now I have in my bench a 1970s Wisconsin engine from an old cement mixer, carb is gone, no gas tank and doesn't have a recoil start, challenge accepted
very nice! good luck to you.
That there is a great quality machine. I had the red Shindaiwa branded variant with the brushcutter handlebars and it was a veritable tank! Nice score!
wow, very nice!
Good Stuff!!!
Glad you liked it!
Fantastic machine you got there. The lack of parts is a shame, but it you use a good fuel mix and proper storage method that forever Kioritz engine wil make beautiful music every time you start it.
Thanks for the tips!
Those will run forever. Blessings.
yes it will .
I got a freebee 30 year old Kawasaki TD033D that needed an inline primer " bulb", fuel lines and an off switch. I think the primer piece was Shindaiwa, probably also the motor. Starts first pull and runs great but is much heavier than newer trimmers. Weight is one benefit of plastic. Manufacturing cost is another. Third is design flexability. I like the newer stuff.
I can agree with that
Its identical to a Shindaiwa T25. They're heavy but simple. But yes parts are hard to find.
I appreciate the information
I have a older Honda mower and at one stage it got a little bit of water in the air filter cover and it still works and we got the water out of it and it runs really good.
Nice work Cody Smith, thanks for the comment
Awesome!
Glad you think so!
100% I will try to fix it I actually worked on the same trimmer before
nice.
I have 2 pieces of 2 stroke equipment both made by Hitachi a blower and a grass trimmer never heard of them on lawn equipment but I am up for if I can get them going at some point
I hope you get them going, it would be nice to see them running.
Thanks!
No problem!
Have one, "sort of old" trimmer in the basement I want to work on but I can't find a new carb. I love working on things and have them come out working again. I wish that I found this hobby when I was younger or took a class in BOCES for it. Then again being able to do your own plumbing isn't so bad and who's the 1st person your friends call when they need a new faucet put in. 😉
nothing wrong with the hobbies or careers we pick, cool part is you can always dabble in new ones.
I would take the challenge on. I’m always up for one.
me too!
Not only WOULD I try, I already AM 😄
I have an early 70’s Green Machine 4000 and I’ve just started on it. Didn’t come with a carb so… yeah. Gonna retrofit something
good luck to you!
@@HomeGaragechannel do you have a suggestion on which carb I should use on my model 4000? I’ve searched the barn high and low and the original carb is missing in action.
Ran into a similar issue on an old Green Machine backpack blower. The throttle cable was damaged, and took me hours to find even a parts list. Then it took me awhile until I found a NOS cable on ebay for it. Carb kit and cable, and it ran amazing. Unfortunately, it didn't even last a season for the buyer. It lost spark, and I couldn't find a coil for it - turned out it had a dual coil type setup? Something I'd never seen before, and knew that even if I could find the parts it would well exceed the cost of getting a smaller Husqvarna or Echo blower. This unit was old enough it didn't have a kill switch, rather the throttle went to an "off" speed and the engine would shut off.
yes I've seen that before and I'm not sure what the second module was for either.
@@HomeGaragechannel At least I'm not alone in that regard! I noticed that the coil to the plug was a long run. I wonder if it was some type of booster or replicator to help the spark travel the length of the coil. A shame too, that engine still had 125psi in compression to it so probably many years of life if a coil was easy to find.
Historic pieces deserve a chance. I kinda remember this label. 86 to 89 maybe?
you are correct
that trimmer sounds like its got some serious power in it
agreed!
This video will get Viral and you can tell that. TH-cam recommended me this video even though these concepts or topics are completely out of my view margin.
interesting it did that, and thanks for clicking on it.
@@HomeGaragechannel Of course, I really enjoyed the video and definitely looking forward to your stuffs.
thanks again.
I'm only 8 years old and I mow the lawn and I like doing it
nice!
My dad had an original green machine and papaw had a poulan and homelite chainsaw and all 3 was built as good as today's commercial trimmers and saws they was hard to start cold was there only issues but they ran forever
very nice!
Have you ever fixed a ccr e toro snow blower I been working on one I had to replace the gaskets on the carburetor but now the recoil does not want to work and someone took the electric start out
unfortunately I've never had to work on one of those.
Yes !
As a kid I would try to get running any mower or trimmer I found in the alleys
nice!
I'm still running a 1968 Lawnboy 5237 19in push mower and a 1974 Jacobsen 21 both all original and never rebuilt. the Jacobsen has a 3.5 Briggs with metal gas tank and has an aluminum deck the Lawnboy is magnesium
That's pretty amazing!
😊 listen too her purr feel young again teenagers 14 yrs old using old green machine
you got that right
Just so you know that trimmer is a very well mad trimmer made in Japan the engine is zenoah manufacturer and you can still get parts for the engine the engine model is called a g2d gopeds used to use them but parts for the motor are very easy to get and the carburetor is easy too to get fuel mix is about 25 to 1 witch is one reason you don't see them anymore they are a two piston ring engine so they need the oil and they rev higher than others upwards of 12 thou rpm good motor well made any questions you have let me know
thank you for the information I appreciate that
@@HomeGaragechannel anytime you need it just find me and ask
Yes and I have been doing that I am 11 years old and I have a seers crafsman string trimmer that broke the last time I was mowing.
sorry to hear that
The older I get , the smarter I become, especially from watching videos like yours. Good content and very professional. A couple of folks who know me bring me "projects" to fix / restore. I usually don't mind since it is a challenge and if I can't fix it, it is at minimal a LEARNING EXPERIENCE. If I do fix it, I may personally use the object, keep it as a spare , or sell it at a garage sale. Some "junk " gets dis-mantled and usually recycled. It is all better for our environment and future.
well said, if they're still around, get them going and use them, and don't throw it away. That's being resourceful.
We use to sell green machine. They were very dependable
nice, were you a distributor?
Hey bro what's up? I like using older equipment. In my opinion, I think that they work better and last longer because of the materials used to make them. The only downside is getting replacement parts but once you do your maintenance on time, your equipment should last you a lifetime.
I agree, they are worth the effort in finding parts for!
That engine sounds so good 😂 the new 2 stroke stihl stuff just sounds cheap and always have noisy bearings
They definitely sound different
That's what I feel about Honda lawn mowers. Home Centers still sells them, whatever they got left in stock that is, but once they're gone,, they're gone. Buy one now and in a few years good luck trying to find parts for them, and if you can your wallet will feel it.
I know right, It will be tough.
I'm trying to finish up a Lawnboy 824e snowblower, that I got for free. The previous owner didn't know how to take care of it and left it outside and water damaged the engine. I wound up taking it completely apart and rebuilt it. The one thing is now I need to replace one of the rims. Any advice on how I can replace this one rim at a reasonable price????🤷🏿♂️
The only thing I an advise would be to find a used rim. As for repairing it, I don't have anything.
Yes I do it all the time.
thank you Brian King.
I have a few green machines trimmers and a little green machine waterpump
very nice!
What is the part on top of the gas tank that looks like a large primer bulb it has what looks like a rubber gasket between it and the tank
it's the tank vent. Apparently they didn't like the smaller version. It's a very large check valve.
@@HomeGaragechannel thanks
It looks like it was a very well built trimmer
it is, hopefully I'll be able to get it working like it should
Do you have any recommendations for me as I am 11 and I am working on some engines.I have an old lawn mower that after cleaning the carb on it it still won't get gas to the engine
before I can answer that question I need to be able to see what kind of mower you're working on. Can you find the Model and serial number sticker somewhere on the mowing deck or rear flap?
@@HomeGaragechannel sorry i cannot right now as i am in a different city my parents are deforced etc so i can reply in a few weeks with it tho
Ciao bel lavoro come il solito ottimo meccanico ma il video è lo stesso di 2 anni fa perché il decespugliatore sembra lo stesso?
Sì, è lo stesso video ma l'ho modificato in modo leggermente diverso e con commenti diversi.
Being a blacksmith, I really don't have much choice. It's in the blood. 😃 For the most part, I've found that old tools are simply better in form and function. Interestingly, folks don't realize that the Scythe is actually faster, easier, and more economical than the motorized contraptions. We've been raised to think the opposite not because it's true, but because we turned our backs on the old ways, and it only takes one generation for the knowledge to be lost. Nowadays, someone will pick up an old crusty scythe at the flea market, give it a few swings, and decree it antiquated, at best, rather than think it's just an old tool that's not set to their height/reach and sharpened properly. There's something of a Renaissance in Scything, and it's fun to watch folks' eyes light up as they see that they can manage their yards easily and quickly, with all the nimbleness of the weed whacker and none of the noise or weight.
When it comes to refurbishing small engines, I wish I was as handy as you. I've got two push mowers that could go to a good home, and my grandfather's wood chipper that needs rebuilt..... but I have two left thumbs when it comes to this stuff and there are no small engine repair guys around these parts anymore. I hate to buy new stuff that I know will fall apart sooner rather than later, but it's a tough call when getting things repaired and refurbished is far more expensive than just buying something new to replace it. I guess that's why the scythe appeals so much. The blades will last a lifetime, and even the wooden handle can be made from about any decent sapling you happen across.
very well said and you being a blacksmith is really awesome!
I love the sound of this weed eater so much
yes me too.
Have you ever heard of Poulan chainsaws? Saw a couple for free in my area, never heard of the brand.
I sure have, I'd pick them up!
As a side note, I am surprised that the carb is mostly plastic with a purge bulb ( perhaps an updated replacement ? ) Ans another viewer already commented.....is that an old purge bulb ON THE TANK ?
I'd also like to know about the plastic carb, but unless someone from the project speaks up, we'll never know. The bump is the tank vent. Not sure why it needs to vent that much air but then again, it was 30 years ago.
T-25 shindaiwa is the same machine only red, says shindaiwa on the ignition module too .
thank you for the information
can you do a background video of the homelite chainsaw video
which homelite chainsaw?
the top handle chainsaw homelite xl and you say about my homelite xl saw and i got few of them tow xl s and the red xl 12 and super xl
sure thing.
thanks and did you see my chainsaw comparison
yes I did.
Hmm..Let's update the tech....I'm "ol head", but...Nowadays, " new head" ...is 3D printing... Run the OEM part thru...Bam..!!! ..New part....
To answer your question: ALL the machines I fix for myself are older than I am, by a minimum of 6 years. Generally I draw the line between 1989 and 1990 of what I find interesting to add to my collection of power equipment or not.
nice
I might make a video showcasing it but I do not know how to
it's not that hard, just use your phone.
I've never heard of green machine before
this was my first too and after that I had to look them up too.
You made me think about plastic mower wheels. Rubber wheels don't last forever but they don't wear like the plastic ones do. For Gas tanks, I will take plastic every time.
I agree.
A 1990 professional grade chainsaw will run with and be easier to repair than a modern chainsaw. I know as I fix a lot of them for small tree service companies.
agreed
yup.plastic is good stuff but the problem with that is it will melt or break overtime and might hurt you or someone else.
true
I just noticed that trimmer has a shindawa motor in it
It is sad that new units have become disposable. But that is what we get for having mass produced cheap items. At some point the cost of repair is more than buying a new device so we just throw it away.
yes you are correct!
and the plastic rots with raw sunlight so its more prone to damage then metal. if you take care of metal and not make it rust then its a good thing plastic? you need to use some sort of body damaging chemicals to take care of it so it might slowly cause health issues overtime.
thank you for the tip
for me yes for sure and in your case it looks like yours was built in the year 1977 or 1975 etc.
really! I didn't realize it!
@@HomeGaragechannel yes from what my mate David Mason has taught me well it's very possible too look into the serial number to be honest etc.
Yes I would because if thare maintained they could last a long time
very true, thank you Trevor Benes.
"Our company only uses the BEST sweatshops"
LOL!!
I used to love fixing the old machines until I turned into the one too old to fix.
lol. well said!
You can apply any new parts to them,basically the have not changed the design that much.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊😊😊.plastic parts are cheaper to make they are molded lighter ,metal you have to machine them .
thank you for the information
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇲🇽
thanks
im still running my 50 year old chainsaw and have no issues
very nice!
Love fixing older machines. The only thing that makes the value decrease is opinion. I’ve seen many thing lose and gain value then lose value again, in my lifetime. Value is just an opinion.
agreed!
That's much older than 30 years old. I would guess 40-45 years old.
really?
@@HomeGaragechannel I really think so... Have you done any research on it?
some but I wasn't able to find the same model
only a brush cutter.
@@HomeGaragechannel It just looks older than early 90s to me. I'm guessing it's an 80s machine.
thanks, I'll keep that in mind when I need to get parts for it.
Why do we bother fixing and using old equipment? It's fun.
yes sir
It's to bad that the part are obsolete because that's when stuff would last now look at this new garbage there making these days tinker tinker instead of getting any job done
I know right, it's worth it though to keep looking .
I love the old stuff
me too
I disagree with the parts are unavailable a lot of parts are interchangeable for shafts and heads no problems as long as shafts diameter is the same and carbs as long as the screw spaceings are the same no problem carbs can be tuned
thanks! I'm sure the engines parts, will hold up regardless.
Please don't take this wrong but nice Typewriters are also in the same position. Tube TV's 480p, I guess my point is, is that we evolve, that evolution is not always liked at first. That evolution generally is for the rich at first but then becomes part of norm for the average person. We are evolving away from the internal combustion engine. Actually the sooner we can do it and ramp up better battery tech the better. I would like to see more and more of those processies happen here in the U.S. Spending money on all types of infrastructure including but not limited to manufacturing is a Win Win. Throw the wealth of the country at advancement before others do. Other will. Stay way ahead.
I was with you for a bit, until you said "Win Win". Batteries are dirty to make, and we Destroy the land and the cultures in those areas to make them. Oh and the power we make to fill those batteries, still come from fossil fuels. I was going to make a video about this And don't know how it's going to go, but it's not going to be very flattering for the battery folks. As a person is all for EV's, I've never lost sight, that this isn't for my good, but for someone else, who's making money, trying to push for this "evolution"
@@HomeGaragechannel Thanks, and yes the reason I mentioned a win was that as time passes battery tech now that we are really engaging it will eventually get better and much cleaner maybe to the point where there is no pollution other then the manufacturing aspect. Lithium batteries replacement is out this year and that is just the start really. Batteries with a 1000 mile charge are still a couple of years out but they are on the horizon. I have to imagine even batteries that can store what power stations produce are already being thought of. So much waste in what we cannot use on demand. It all rely on better battery technology but it's on the way. Think about Nicad, they were absolutely junk. One year at a time, heck I'm still hoping for Warp engines! 😇
you are correct, time will make great advancement for sure.