I think this is actually a common thing with most multi-channel tube amps. The different channels are not totally separate and isolated, probably because they share some of the same circuitry. I’ve noticed in some other amps I have played and owned that the controls on one channel have a small effect on another.
Most people don't take the time to deep dive and get to know the nuances of their equipment. I honestly never tweaked until I started watching the channel. One thing that is helpful is to step back and listen to someone else play my amp as I tweak the settings, easier for me to HEAR for some reason. Appreciate what you do man.🤙
Try a looper pedal. I got a cheap, basic "Ditto" from TCElec for next to nothing. It just repeats the same riff over and over while I put the guitar down and do whatever. Being a TCElec pedal, there's all kinds of stuff you can do with it on the laptop to load in. Of course, there is a more sophisticated version, and now things like the Mooer band in a box and the Trio+ pedal if you want a bass and drum to play over; all loopable and with lots of storage.
@@TONEWARSgearshow ohh man, l tried the blue gain knob trick to help the red channel. I really dig that, it cleans the red channel up really nice! Curious if you know what tubes come stock in these heads? Mine are all unbranded. I'm thinking JJ's, but not sure
@@Gojihead1 So good to hear. I'm glad this helped you. To your question, I'm not sure what tubes these amplifiers come with. Probably JJ's like you've said.
Yes!! So glad someone finally pointed these out. The fact that the blue channel gain affects the red channel gain, and that this association has been obscured from most, has caused many people to jump to false conclusions about the red channel I think. I own this amp and it is special. I have a Mesa 4x12 with it and have no desire for any other amp…for me, it is THE ONE.
At 3:00 - that green channel with the boost goes harder than some high gain amps I've heard lol. Just insane. And while I don't have the 5150S, if it's like my 50w 5153 then the green channel is missing at least half a tube from the blue channel. Amazing.
Thanks for commenting. I agree. I was surprised at how much gain the green channel had. When you boost it, it sounds amazing. I can't believe a channel that sounds so beautiful can get so angry.
Jarrod mentioned in the video that this is a red channel feature it actually works on the blue channel as well, which is what I mainly use this method for, I play on the blue channel, and dial in the gain with the red channel and green channel gain knobs, the green channel kind of adds to the body of the gain for the blue channel with green gain turned off the blue channel gain sounds a little hollow and dull, but turn it up and it fills in some extra structure to the gain, makes it feel like the notes are bouncing off the strings more. Use the tone knobs on the red channel to dial in and in a way "filter" in or out some of the low mid and high frequencies in the blue channel, it is subtle but there is a change in tone. If you really want to hear the difference start the tone knobs turned off on the red channel and dial them up individually to hear the shift in the sound they make I only have the 50w so I don't have the ability to adjust green channel tone knobs since green and blue use the same eq knobs, but there could be a little more adjustment with the 100w heads. I have also noticed more head room and brightness on the blue channel when I turn up the red and green channels volume knob without an increase in actual volume, but if you turn them completely off it brings in some bottom end and kind of compresses the sound a little bit and you can put the dial somewhere in the middle for a sound somewhere in between the compressed and bright open sound. its all subtle changes but it's still notable and would work great in a recording set up for double tracking, track one with the volume off and the other the the volumes up, same with the different gain settings between the channels
Thanks for commenting. I tried moving the tone knobs around and I couldn't tell if it was a placebo effect or if the changes were so subtle I couldn't tell. I'll have to spend some more time doing this
so after poring over some schemos, the effect will also happen the "other way around," ie the red gain affecting the blue tone, but to a lesser extent (a ~5x smaller cap is used). it may not even be noticeable (haven't tried it yet). using red channel: when blue pot at max, 104k (r25 + r26 || r6) to ground, c68 out of circuit when blue pot at min, 10k r25 + 4.7nF series cap c68 to ground (6db/octave low pass filter) using blue channel: when red pot at max, 380k (r28 || r11 || r29) to ground, c15 out of circuit when red pot at min, 600k (r28 || r11) to ground, also parallel 1nF c15 to ground (6db/octave low pass filter) basically you're rolling off HF at a very early stage in the amplification (if you aren't using an OD pedal, there's no appreciable distortion at this point) so the effect on tone is quite different than tweaking subsequent filters. when using the OD pedal, the HF content of the signal at this node is increased due to clipping so the effect is more audible. in either channel the LPF/HF rolloff is due to the presence of the "wiper bypass" caps c68 and c15
I’m always amazed at the tones you create with these amps. I’m looking forward to buying the stealth 50 watt version soon. EVH is probably the best amp for the dollar.
Very cool video! This makes the 100 Watt Stealth more versatile with with the Clean/Crunch Gain option. Also those Hidden Easter Eggs are a nice Bonus! Is the EVH 100 Watt El-34 the same?
I played a Marshall pedal (Pedal Pal 800) into the green channel on my 50w stealth with green ch. Gain at 8 or 9 o'clock and and it's pure JCM800 gained out all day. No need to buy one of those now. I feel like it's 100% Marshall JCM tone once you figure out the dials. There's an Easter egg for ya.
So reached out to EVH and they say there isn't midi capabilities so,,, how do you change between channels and have for instance chorus on the clean and delay on the red using an effects unit ?
@@TONEWARSgearshow Thank you sir ! Still doesnt make sense to me. I have another amp with the same set up and it works just fine taking commands,, but hey the adaptor may be the trick !
Will these settings work for higher volume levels? For example, playing a 500-800 capacity venue. This sounds amazing, Jarrod. I just sold my JJ 100 and my Stealth 100 arrives mid next week. Also, would the ODD Box work for an OD here?
Are you gonna do an Easter Egg vid on the EL34? I know it definitely does the Gain stage thing with Blue channel but I don't know if it does the Green channel thing...i never tried. And what did that dude in the chats say about the "tone" knobs having some effect as well? I can't remember lol
Yeah I could do that as well. I did try moving the tone knobs to see if they affected the other channels. I didn't hear anything though. If they actually do anything, it's very subtle
Jarrod mentioned in the video that this is a red channel feature it actually works on the blue channel as well, which is what I mainly use this method for, I play on the blue channel, and dial in the gain with the red channel and green channel gain knobs, the green channel kind of adds to the body of the gain for the blue channel with green gain turned off the blue channel gain sounds a little hollow and dull, but turn it up and it fills in some extra structure to the gain, makes it feel like the notes are bouncing off the strings more. Use the tone knobs on the red channel to dial in and in a way "filter" in or out some of the low mid and high frequencies in the blue channel, it is subtle but there is a change in tone. If you really want to hear the difference start the tone knobs turned off on the red channel and dial them up individually to hear the shift in the sound they make I only have the 50w so I don't have the ability to adjust green channel tone knobs since green and blue use the same eq knobs, but there could be a little more adjustment with the 100w heads. I have also noticed more head room and brightness on the blue channel when I turn up the red and green channels volume knob without an increase in actual volume, but if you turn them completely off it brings in some bottom end and kind of compresses the sound a little bit and you can put the dial somewhere in the middle for a sound somewhere in between the compressed and bright open sound. its all subtle changes but it's still notable and would work great in a recording set up for double tracking, track one with the volume off and the other the the volumes up, same with the different gain settings between the channels
I have an (EVH 5150 100 STEALTH ) plugged into a load box (Torpedo captor X ) for direct recording through IRs. When I have the sound turn down on the monitors and I play the guitar, I can hear it coming from the amp head. There is a Randell ISO cab speaker cabinet plugged in Captor X. There should be no sound since the monitors are turned down. is this normal for high gain amps.
@@TONEWARSgearshow i figured it out what's making that noise. when I'm palm muting you can hear it more and the tubes have a slight blue only when playing that's where sound is coming from i put my ear on back of amp that's when i notice the tubes making noise
@@amongtheseashes3037 does the green channel have as much gain on the 50w? I’d love to do the vintage thing of pushing the front end with od or fuzz, but also have the option to switch to the classic high gain blue and red channels
I wouldn't even think the gain knob on channel two would be in the circuit of channel three. But somehow, it is. But only slightly. I wonder if this has to do with the cascading-gain stack? Maybe channel three is part of channel two, with extra stages added. I know this amp has a lot of 12ax7 tubes in it!
@@TONEWARSgearshow Yeah, we would need an amp tech to look at the circuits and see how everything is designed. Reverse-engineer it. My guess is channel one is separate, but channels two and three share circuit pathways.
@@TONEWARSgearshow I searched EVH Stealth 100 on guitar center and couldn't find one. I have An EVH EL34 and an EVH Iconic and also the EVH 15w Lunch box As well as the EVH 6L6 but this amp seems like a must have for EVH fans.
Hate having to change another channel to get my sound on another channel. 50w doesn’t have this and has a better clean. Just bought one of these and not impressed.
Do you have an Instagram brother? And this vid couldn’t have come at a better time!! Lol because…… I’d like to start with saying thank you!! Cause you and your channel were the reason I got the 50w stealth 🥷 and then again you and your channel were the reason I returned the 50w and got the 100w stealth!! You can only get it at my local store through special order so I’d of never pulled the trigger if it wasn’t for your many vids on how bad ass it is and let me tell you it’s a monster!!!!!!!!! Absolute beast!! I’ve named it the BIG BOY!! Lol. Just got it today and man I’m in Lala land lol. Hands down the best and most stunning beast I’ve ever owned!!! Thank you!! I hold you as a big part of the reason I ordered this magnificent creature!! Hope you see this comment man! And thank you again. I’m in love. Much love and keep emm coming brother love what you do!
Thank you so much for commenting! I'm so glad you found the perfect amp for you. I'm always glad to see that my work here on this channel is helping people like you find the right gear. To your question regarding Instagram, I'm not on there very much but I do have a Facebook page. The link is in the description. Congratulations on the "Big Boy!"
@@TONEWARSgearshow yea your channel rocks man I always look forward to your vids, your such a filthy player your tones are nuts! And yea it deff did help me man I have a few other heads. Mesa dual rectifier, Randall diavlo and a krank which I all love but the big boy is the one man!! It’s the one!! Thank you again And ok cool man I’m gonna give you a follow on there aswell I’m on Instagram more that’s why I ask Between the 100w stealth and 100w el34 which would be your poison ?
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I think this is actually a common thing with most multi-channel tube amps. The different channels are not totally separate and isolated, probably because they share some of the same circuitry. I’ve noticed in some other amps I have played and owned that the controls on one channel have a small effect on another.
Most people don't take the time to deep dive and get to know the nuances of their equipment. I honestly never tweaked until I started watching the channel. One thing that is helpful is to step back and listen to someone else play my amp as I tweak the settings, easier for me to HEAR for some reason. Appreciate what you do man.🤙
Thank you! I learned a lot from this video as well.
Try a looper pedal. I got a cheap, basic "Ditto" from TCElec for next to nothing. It just repeats the same riff over and over while I put the guitar down and do whatever. Being a TCElec pedal, there's all kinds of stuff you can do with it on the laptop to load in. Of course, there is a more sophisticated version, and now things like the Mooer band in a box and the Trio+ pedal if you want a bass and drum to play over; all loopable and with lots of storage.
Really appreciate this vid and perfect timing! My EVH 100 Stealth just arrived yesterday haha. Thank's so much!!
Congratulations!! The Stealth is such a great amp. Let me know how these settings worked out for you.
@@TONEWARSgearshow thank you, will do!
You lucky dog.
@@TONEWARSgearshow ohh man, l tried the blue gain knob trick to help the red channel. I really dig that, it cleans the red channel up really nice!
Curious if you know what tubes come stock in these heads? Mine are all unbranded. I'm thinking JJ's, but not sure
@@Gojihead1 So good to hear. I'm glad this helped you. To your question, I'm not sure what tubes these amplifiers come with. Probably JJ's like you've said.
Yes!! So glad someone finally pointed these out. The fact that the blue channel gain affects the red channel gain, and that this association has been obscured from most, has caused many people to jump to false conclusions about the red channel I think. I own this amp and it is special. I have a Mesa 4x12 with it and have no desire for any other amp…for me, it is THE ONE.
I love those chords you played on the clean channel
At 3:00 - that green channel with the boost goes harder than some high gain amps I've heard lol. Just insane. And while I don't have the 5150S, if it's like my 50w 5153 then the green channel is missing at least half a tube from the blue channel. Amazing.
Thanks for commenting. I agree. I was surprised at how much gain the green channel had. When you boost it, it sounds amazing.
I can't believe a channel that sounds so beautiful can get so angry.
Jarrod mentioned in the video that this is a red channel feature it actually works on the blue channel as well, which is what I mainly use this method for, I play on the blue channel, and dial in the gain with the red channel and green channel gain knobs, the green channel kind of adds to the body of the gain for the blue channel with green gain turned off the blue channel gain sounds a little hollow and dull, but turn it up and it fills in some extra structure to the gain, makes it feel like the notes are bouncing off the strings more. Use the tone knobs on the red channel to dial in and in a way "filter" in or out some of the low mid and high frequencies in the blue channel, it is subtle but there is a change in tone. If you really want to hear the difference start the tone knobs turned off on the red channel and dial them up individually to hear the shift in the sound they make I only have the 50w so I don't have the ability to adjust green channel tone knobs since green and blue use the same eq knobs, but there could be a little more adjustment with the 100w heads. I have also noticed more head room and brightness on the blue channel when I turn up the red and green channels volume knob without an increase in actual volume, but if you turn them completely off it brings in some bottom end and kind of compresses the sound a little bit and you can put the dial somewhere in the middle for a sound somewhere in between the compressed and bright open sound. its all subtle changes but it's still notable and would work great in a recording set up for double tracking, track one with the volume off and the other the the volumes up, same with the different gain settings between the channels
Thanks for commenting. I tried moving the tone knobs around and I couldn't tell if it was a placebo effect or if the changes were so subtle I couldn't tell.
I'll have to spend some more time doing this
so after poring over some schemos, the effect will also happen the "other way around," ie the red gain affecting the blue tone, but to a lesser extent (a ~5x smaller cap is used). it may not even be noticeable (haven't tried it yet).
using red channel:
when blue pot at max, 104k (r25 + r26 || r6) to ground, c68 out of circuit
when blue pot at min, 10k r25 + 4.7nF series cap c68 to ground (6db/octave low pass filter)
using blue channel:
when red pot at max, 380k (r28 || r11 || r29) to ground, c15 out of circuit
when red pot at min, 600k (r28 || r11) to ground, also parallel 1nF c15 to ground (6db/octave low pass filter)
basically you're rolling off HF at a very early stage in the amplification (if you aren't using an OD pedal, there's no appreciable distortion at this point) so the effect on tone is quite different than tweaking subsequent filters.
when using the OD pedal, the HF content of the signal at this node is increased due to clipping so the effect is more audible.
in either channel the LPF/HF rolloff is due to the presence of the "wiper bypass" caps c68 and c15
Great information!! Thanks for sharing this
I’m always amazed at the tones you create with these amps. I’m looking forward to buying the stealth 50 watt version soon. EVH is probably the best amp for the dollar.
Thanks for commenting. I agree, the EVH amps offer so much great tone and features...while being priced fairly.
Buy the el34
Daaaaaamn that Red channel trick is crazy good
Wow These are great finds. Easter Egg hunt Championship redeemed. I had no idea about these tweaks! Thanks for sharing and Awesome Jarrod !
Thanks for commenting. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video. It was actually a lot of fun to discover these tricks.
I’m gonna try it with the EL34 50 watt !!!!!!
Very cool video! This makes the 100 Watt Stealth more versatile with with the Clean/Crunch Gain option. Also those Hidden Easter Eggs are a nice Bonus! Is the EVH 100 Watt El-34 the same?
Thank you! I'm pretty sure they apply to that amplifier as well. When I get a chance, I will check
The green has always been a beefed up Marshall tone
wow killer tone even the clean is beautiful
It's a little late for Easter, but I like these eggs anyways! 🥚
I played a Marshall pedal (Pedal Pal 800) into the green channel on my 50w stealth with green ch. Gain at 8 or 9 o'clock and and it's pure JCM800 gained out all day. No need to buy one of those now. I feel like it's 100% Marshall JCM tone once you figure out the dials. There's an Easter egg for ya.
SOLD!!!! Just ordered up one!!!!
Awesome!! Congratulations
Awesome video! Can’t wait to try these out! 🤘🏻
Thanks for commenting. The red channel is amazing with the Easter egg applied
So reached out to EVH and they say there isn't midi capabilities so,,, how do you change between channels and have for instance chorus on the clean and delay on the red using an effects unit ?
There's some midi to 1/4 inch converters out there. Try voodoo lab
@@TONEWARSgearshow Thank you sir ! Still doesnt make sense to me. I have another amp with the same set up and it works just fine taking commands,, but hey the adaptor may be the trick !
Very cool information, thanks Jarrod!
My pleasure
Awesome video!! The Stealth was really well designed. All it needs is midi switching.
Thank you. Agreed. The stealth is a great, flexible amp. I really wish it had midi too.
Do the 100 Watts not have midi? Both the original 50w and 50w stealth I have owned have midi.
God these amps sound so good
I think most of Eddie's Sound came from his playing. But this is a cool video
Would any of these work on the LBX Stealth?
I think these Easter eggs only apply to the 100 W stealth and possibly the EL34 100.
Will these settings work for higher volume levels? For example, playing a 500-800 capacity venue. This sounds amazing, Jarrod. I just sold my JJ 100 and my Stealth 100 arrives mid next week. Also, would the ODD Box work for an OD here?
Yes to both. This amp was played many times by Eddie himself with these settings and it sounded amazing
Thanks, Jarrod. I can't wait to dial it in next week. @@TONEWARSgearshow
This isn't your father's classic rock channel \m/
Are you gonna do an Easter Egg vid on the EL34? I know it definitely does the Gain stage thing with Blue channel but I don't know if it does the Green channel thing...i never tried. And what did that dude in the chats say about the "tone" knobs having some effect as well? I can't remember lol
Yeah I could do that as well. I did try moving the tone knobs to see if they affected the other channels. I didn't hear anything though. If they actually do anything, it's very subtle
Jarrod mentioned in the video that this is a red channel feature it actually works on the blue channel as well, which is what I mainly use this method for, I play on the blue channel, and dial in the gain with the red channel and green channel gain knobs, the green channel kind of adds to the body of the gain for the blue channel with green gain turned off the blue channel gain sounds a little hollow and dull, but turn it up and it fills in some extra structure to the gain, makes it feel like the notes are bouncing off the strings more. Use the tone knobs on the red channel to dial in and in a way "filter" in or out some of the low mid and high frequencies in the blue channel, it is subtle but there is a change in tone. If you really want to hear the difference start the tone knobs turned off on the red channel and dial them up individually to hear the shift in the sound they make I only have the 50w so I don't have the ability to adjust green channel tone knobs since green and blue use the same eq knobs, but there could be a little more adjustment with the 100w heads. I have also noticed more head room and brightness on the blue channel when I turn up the red and green channels volume knob without an increase in actual volume, but if you turn them completely off it brings in some bottom end and kind of compresses the sound a little bit and you can put the dial somewhere in the middle for a sound somewhere in between the compressed and bright open sound. its all subtle changes but it's still notable and would work great in a recording set up for double tracking, track one with the volume off and the other the the volumes up, same with the different gain settings between the channels
I have an (EVH 5150 100 STEALTH ) plugged into a load box (Torpedo captor X ) for direct recording through IRs. When I have the sound turn down on the monitors and I play the guitar, I can hear it coming from the amp head. There is a Randell ISO cab speaker cabinet plugged in Captor X. There should be no sound since the monitors are turned down. is this normal for high gain amps.
Yes you can hear a little bit of sound coming straight out of the amplifier even when the cab is silent. It shouldn't be super loud, just very subtle.
@@TONEWARSgearshow thank for the response
@@TONEWARSgearshow i figured it out what's making that noise. when I'm palm muting you can hear it more and the tubes have a slight
blue only when playing that's where sound is coming from i put my ear on back of amp
that's when i notice the tubes making noise
Pretty common to "adjust" settings with Vol&Gain on tube amps; hardly an "easter egg".👌
Hey Jarrod , are you going to profile these particular channels / channels + boost for Kemper . This sounds killer .
Great idea! I'll get to working on that soon. Feel free to send me a reminder if I don't release it within a couple of weeks.
Great video .
Thank you!!
can the 50 watt version do this as well?
Good question. As far as I know, only the 100 watt units do this. That said, it never hurts to check.
I just tried it on mine, and it does not do anything to change the gain structure. Still very cool on the 100 watt though.
@@amongtheseashes3037 does the green channel have as much gain on the 50w? I’d love to do the vintage thing of pushing the front end with od or fuzz, but also have the option to switch to the classic high gain blue and red channels
Audrey Yun I didn’t try the green channel, but I’m sure you could get close to what you are thinking
“Classic rock” 😂
I wouldn't even think the gain knob on channel two would be in the circuit of channel three. But somehow, it is. But only slightly. I wonder if this has to do with the cascading-gain stack? Maybe channel three is part of channel two, with extra stages added. I know this amp has a lot of 12ax7 tubes in it!
I was wondering this as well . Interesting
All I know is, there is some crazy mojo with this amplifier and it's awesome.
I am curious how it all works though.
@@TONEWARSgearshow Yeah, we would need an amp tech to look at the circuits and see how everything is designed. Reverse-engineer it. My guess is channel one is separate, but channels two and three share circuit pathways.
@@TheCyberMantis That's what I'm thinking as well. Somehow there's a pathway between the circuits
genius idea
added a comment today that explains how/why this is happening
Does it do that on the lunchbox
Good question. I'm not sure
What amp exactly is this?
Stealth 100
@@TONEWARSgearshow I searched EVH Stealth 100 on guitar center and couldn't find one. I have An EVH EL34 and an EVH Iconic and also the EVH 15w Lunch box As well as the EVH 6L6 but this amp seems like a must have for EVH fans.
@@vintagetrk try Motor City Guitar or Sweetwater
Well for 2k plus dollars there’s better be some good shxt in that thing - oh yeah I got one
Your definition of classic rock sound is way off lol, sounds amazing tho.....
Haha I meant to say classic metal. Oops..
Hearin this now I know the used dsl 100 was a waste to buy
Hate having to change another channel to get my sound on another channel. 50w doesn’t have this and has a better clean. Just bought one of these and not impressed.
Do you have an Instagram brother?
And this vid couldn’t have come at a better time!! Lol because…… I’d like to start with saying thank you!! Cause you and your channel were the reason I got the 50w stealth 🥷 and then again you and your channel were the reason I returned the 50w and got the 100w stealth!! You can only get it at my local store through special order so I’d of never pulled the trigger if it wasn’t for your many vids on how bad ass it is and let me tell you it’s a monster!!!!!!!!! Absolute beast!! I’ve named it the BIG BOY!! Lol. Just got it today and man I’m in Lala land lol. Hands down the best and most stunning beast I’ve ever owned!!! Thank you!! I hold you as a big part of the reason I ordered this magnificent creature!! Hope you see this comment man! And thank you again. I’m in love. Much love and keep emm coming brother love what you do!
Thank you so much for commenting! I'm so glad you found the perfect amp for you. I'm always glad to see that my work here on this channel is helping people like you find the right gear.
To your question regarding Instagram, I'm not on there very much but I do have a Facebook page. The link is in the description.
Congratulations on the "Big Boy!"
@@TONEWARSgearshow yea your channel rocks man I always look forward to your vids, your such a filthy player your tones are nuts! And yea it deff did help me man I have a few other heads. Mesa dual rectifier, Randall diavlo and a krank which I all love but the big boy is the one man!! It’s the one!! Thank you again
And ok cool man I’m gonna give you a follow on there aswell I’m on Instagram more that’s why I ask
Between the 100w stealth and 100w el34 which would be your poison ?