Unlocking Eddie Van Halenâs Guitar Tone with his Engineer Ross Hogarth
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ABOUT THIS VIDEO
In this episode, super engineer Ross Hogarth reveals all the details about how he recorded Eddie Van Halen's Guitar Tone using 2 different microphones, how he created a 2 channel version of Eddie's mono sound, why Wolfgang joined the band, how Eddie created distortion, Eddie's favorite EFX pedals and what it takes to get the best drum soundsâĶand the love between two brothers that glued Van Halen together!
00:00 Intro
00:39 Eddie's Guitar Solos
02:18 Eddie played One Guitar Part
03:50 How Don Landee turned a Mono Guitar into Stereo
05:37 How Ross Hogarth transformed Eddie's Sound with double mic techniques
09:07 Custom Designed Ribbon microphones that can withstand high sound pressure levels
12:35 How Ross Split and Spread out Eddie's sound even more
15:05 Summarizing Eddie's Sound
16:02 Eddie and Alex performed intuitively
17:17 When Wolfgang Van Halen joined the band
19:36 How Eddie created distortion & EFX tones
21:55 No 2nd guitar part
22:32 How to get the best Drum Tones
26:35 The Van Halen Connection: Love
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ABOUT ANTHONY
Anthony's musical touch as both composer and performer is connected with some of the most influential creative minds over the last 40 years. Heâs composed and conducted original orchestral scores for over 80 feature films including Young Gunsâ, Internal Affairsâ, The Man From Elysian Fieldsâ, 15 Minutes and Planes, Trains & Automobilesâ, been commissioned by the Los Angeles Philharmonic for his symphonic work "In the Family Way", written over one thousand TV commercials in a myriad of musical styles, co-founded Levels Audio Post (LA's premiere post production facility) and performed and arranged on big-box-office films and influential hit records such as Michael Jackson's Thrillerâ.
His extensive work as a young arranger, orchestrator and performer for Quincy Jonesâ, Jack Nitzscheâ, Lamont Dozierâ, Arthur Rubenstein and Giorgio Moroder was vital in launching his own career. His early years pioneering modular analog synthesizers along with his wide-ranging music scholarship positioned Anthony at the center of the music technology revolution. He attended the University of Southern California School of Music as a piano and composition major.
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People might complain about how better things were "back then", but I feel so fortunate to live in this time when we can easily get videos like these you've been making. Thank you so much!
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Yes and I have seen them live many times.. twice with Dave and in my opinion whatever people think about the difference as time went on . The ðŊ percent best sound live in my opinion was the balance tour!! It was un friken real live
"back in the day" i wore out record needles learning VH 1 in 78... literally the only time I could see EVH play was By buying a Ticket and seeing him live...then wait a year for next tour.......no MTV, no Van Halen on TV, no utube, no DVD / Video lessons...I would watch EVH hands the whole show to see how he played certain riffs...I remember seeing him finger tapping in 78..intro to Atomic punk was his hand heel up and down across the strings, at the bridge...79 bass notes on spanish fly hammered on while fast picking high strings open,,,, 81 mean streets odd tapping..by the time I was in high school my boys were all over MTV and Even in 84 i would say..."remember back in the day when only saw them live or nothing"?
Yeah, but they were living it, not watching videos
What albums were you the engineer on? Donn Landee was the engineer for Van Halen
itâs incredibly generous of you to provide these episodes free of charge. such insightful stories!
A half an hour interview that felt like just 5 minutes, that's how good it was! Pure gold, thank you so much ð
Agreed! I shared that same sentiment with you.
Same with Rick Beatto interviewing Andy Summers. It was about an hour and a half and I thought that it was 20 minutes.
Great interview. EVH was a true genius. There will never be another. RIP Ed.
100 years from now guitar players are still going to be trying to figure all this out
You are spot onâĶ.as a father and fan of Eddieâs craft I knew once his son joined the band on bass that it was Eddieâs dream to play with his son and he knew his time was limited due to his ongoing battle with cancer, so we should all be happy for Eddie to have lived long enough to experience the joy of playing with his son.
Nice to hear Clarence Kane mentioned. He's still alive and well age 97 last I heard, and still does amazing work. In the last few years had worked on a few RCA ribbons for my studio as well. Worth getting fixed from the source for sure.
+100 for Clarence Kane!!
That line at the end about "the [drums] weren't special, the guy hitting them was special" is an absolute gem. Swap out drums for almost any bit of music gear... it's all in the art. Interesting video, thank you again :)
you beat me to it synthnerd, I was struck by the comment too and it speaks a truth that marketing people fear.
One of the best RIP Eddie videos ever. Love the refreshed take on Eddieâs sound - now truly Browm.
Thank you for this interview @anthonymarinellimusic ! Iâm a guitar player but for decades have told my drummer friends exactly what Mr Hogarth is saying about John Bonham, it was the technique, all in the wrists. Bonhamâs tone wasnât from bashing but appropriately attacking each instrument in the kit to maximize resonance.
His comments on multi micing/amping Eddie were very cool.
Great work sir!
Ed was a true genius and innovator!
I know this one is probably a little left field for some of your viewers but I really hope that not only they but the algorithm give it a chance because there is some absolute gold that you got out of this interview. Bravo, and thanks!!
It's awesome
Man I just love listening to
this stuff, especially people you share memories with (& the discussion already has familiarity comfort). So cool getting to hear these stories ð
Thanks Anthony for putting this together and BIG thanks to Ross for sharing his knowledge and interactions with VH.
EVH's sound has been a big subject of discussion for many decades but you won't find any detailed interviews or stories that dive into the real details from someone who was hands-on with the process. Even EVH didn't talk about it much so it's a great to see this.
Triple platinum content! Thank you Anthony ððž
Thank you Anthony, Iâm so glad we got to hear more from Ross about his great knowledge and techniques aswell as how do you then present that to the artist respectfully.
Also what a treat that this was about Van Halen! Loved Ross take on Eddie working with his son, just beautiful!âĪ
Loved hearing about Jim Keltner too, his work over the years is amazing I particularly loved his involvement in the Little Village project!âĪ
Again I also have to thank you for being one of the only presenters and authors who understands letting the guest express their stories fully without interruption or being interrupted midway through a sentence.
Would love to hear you interview Harold Faltermeyer at some point, two great keyboard wizards just having a chat!
My best to you and thanks again!
Finally someone is giving the information on how Van Halen I was recorded. No one seems to remember how Eddie got his guitar sound on that record, not Eddie, not the engineers who worked on the album (see Sunset Sound interviews). So surprising to see that the guitar was separated into stereo with reverb.
Not true. Brian Kehew describes the stereo setup in this Sunset Sound interview: th-cam.com/video/eujsj8E9AkY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Olfr2UN0E9gSqWO1
@@keith.messier thanks for this info. EVH had such great tone on the first four albums, after that it was just a generic guitar sound that always sounded the same. Im finding out now that I cant get this tone with just an amp or effects, so I really want to find out how he did it.
All you have to do is roll the balance to the left on early van halen you hear is this weird cave sound. All that guitar sound is coming out of one speaker. Only thing they did different for the solo's was He was coming out of both speakers. I Knew that when I was a kid trying to learn his music
@@doormasterjohn Thats the only thing that bothers me about those early VH albums is how the guitar is put on the left. It really cheapens the overall sound. It sounds just as bad on the Beatles albums. I cant figure out why the guys in VH got talked into doing that on so many albums.
Beato has some serious competition with this amazing content!
Love how you added the illustrations throughout the interview. Well done! ðð―ðð―ðð―
Awesome video. Thanks for bringing Ross back - he's a gem!!!! I really hope you do some more with him - he sounds like he has so many stories to tell.
I subscribed to this channel maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago. I'm not done watching all your videos, but I absolutely loved every single one I watched so far. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, your experience and your memories.
This is like a master class for a musician. I'm a lifelong guitar player but listening to his understanding of capturing tone and what it comes from makes perfect sense. Every emerging musicians should listen to this interview
This channel is truly the best of the internet - someone really about it preserving history and handing it out in an easy to digest way
Great interview, thank you so much Anthony. A lot of new information I didn't know!!! Definitely one of the best Van Halen oriented interviews I've heard in years. ð Keep up the great work with your channel!
The word Ross was searching for to describe Ed and Alexâs relationship would best be described as âorganicâ
Anthony-someone needs to do a movie about the life of Marc Bolan and cast you in the lead position as him in the movie. It would make for a great film.
Absolutely fascinating, massive thanks for going to the trouble and effort to make these, totally hooked!
I love that this guy lets his guests talkâĶ..he doesnât interrupt or talk over them.
Itâs an art, especially when youâre trying to gain information. He did a very good job here.
Thankful for discovering your channel this year!! Incredible content.
Love all the technical ranting! Thanks for another amazing video!
Enjoyed the content, thank you for producing.
Great stuff, great insight as always
I'm from Pasadena. I lived right around the corner from The Van Halen's. We all knew each other. I have seen many many shows including backyard parties, and concerts. I moved to North Carolina in 2007 and went to see the show with DLR & Wolfgang in Greensboro. I had noticed they had Michael Anthony's Backup Vocals piped in. I'm actually friends with Michael, but not so sure he really liked that idea or not. Cause we never discussed it yet.
Better get on it, that was almost 20 years ago!
that Moog in the background...and it's on...
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Wowza, thank you very much to both of you! What a wonderful conversation! So much amazing detail in one video.
Excellent interview especially the ending section... it's all about the musician not the instrument. The talk about the drummers and playing for the sound and letting the mic's and PA make it loud. I've done a lot of sound work in my life and many people would be surprised if they heard what the stage volume was like compared the FOH from the PA. The great bands played on stage at levels that were comfortable. I've only heard a couple that blasted on stage.
Thanks Anthony insightful interview thanks for putting this together!
This is one helluva pro tip on micing and guitar sound, and prob other instrument sound as well. I appreciate the way Ross handles the whole Anthony/Wolfie issue. They are both class guys and EVH deserved to have the joy he got. He certainly worked and struggled most of his life at his passion and craft, and as easy as people think it looked from afar, it prop was frequently not easy at all. At least EVH got to go out on top and not in the sad trough he was in for many years, and playing with Wolf may have been the lynchpin to his recovery.
Love the great tidbits of info, good stuff!
What a surprise! I JUMPed up when I read EVH... ððŠ - great background also on drums, miking.. and the best of all the definition of the vibe they had within their scene..
the hint on Porcaro, Keltner shows that there's still alot to dig into.. love it!
Thanks so much for honering a fellow native Dutch man.
(Eddie was born in the Dutch city Amsterdam)
I am very proud we had such a amazing musician.
thank Goodness they escaped out of moldy old europe and moved to California in the amazing 60's where they thrived in a vibrant , creative , land of opportunity to flourish and become true legendary Rock stars. Would have never happened in Holland. Cheers from Sunny Cabo !
â@@TANTRUMGASMThey flourished despite getting picked on for their foreign accents by idiot Californians.
Hi Anthony, another great video. Thanks!!!
This is a very informative interview. Very nicely done.
Great interview. I discovered Royer Mics in school and really enjoy hearing how they came to be. Love all the great stories
As a dad that got my kids interested in music, bringing in Wolf was a no brainer. I LOVE Michael Anthony! But to play with my kid, are you serious, dream come true.
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THANK YOU. great interview.
So many gems! Thank you for sharing! Grazie!
Great conversation - thanks for this!
Thanks Anthony, for this great content.
Great interview guys thank you!
Excellent interview thanks Ross for all the invaluable insight here ððĨðŦĄ
Guitar player and lifelong EVH fan but the drum tone discussion was the highlight!
What an interesting and informative conversation. Thank you for sharing.
This is a great interview. Thank you for getting Ross H. to discuss this out-of-print VH record.
There is a lot of drama surrounding this record, and little has ever been said.
Still, I must say that from an engineering standpoint the mix of A Different Kind Of Truth is a perfect exemple of too much of everything: big bass, big guitars, big drums, big vocals, and everything gets congested.
I suspect the mix is why it is no longer available anywhere.
Wolfie says that DLR hates it , also that DLR wont let it be licensed or whatever on spotify
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As weâve seen in the last couple days, it seems that DLR hates everything (everyone?) about his second VH stint. He clearly was not in charge that time around and that seems to have everything to do with it.
Very interesting interview. THX
Fantastic content. Every little story is interesting . Ross is brilliant.
thanks great interview and sharing Anthony as always thanks to Ross Hogarth too for sharing his stories ðððļðžðĩðķðđ
Fascinating interview.
I heard a recent youtube EVH tone dive video and they had the dry guitar loud and panned hard left and the touch of reverb on the right. I've heard loads of EVH tone dive vids where they play just like Ed and have dialed in the tones super close and even bang on but the studio panning treatment got it just that bit even closer.
Amazing! Thank you! ððž
Best interview of Van Halen I've heard yet, awesomeness
I need to hear this man talk about Motley Crue more. Mick Mars is my hero and Girls Girls Girls is arguably my favorite album of their's.
What a treat! Loving the non-technical questions about the humanity of it all.
I love Eddie's keyboard playing as much as his guitaring. Dude was a real deal virtuoso!
He played in C and D lol.
Great interview!
Hey Anthony, I love your channel! I would love to see more Synclavier and movie score videos!
These videos become more inspiring to me with every new release - itâs crazy. Anthony! Level out those picture frames if theyâre going to be the background. Are you guys throwing each other around and up against the walls off camera? ð
Great Interview!! learned a lot about recording guitar.
Wow! Thanks Anthony.
Excellent interview with a guy who has probably forgotten more about sound than many people remember.
I'm just now getting back to where I can listen to Eddie without crying. I'm getting close with RUSH for Neil now. Working on it. RUSH's "Presto" album was a constant while my late wife was battling cancer. It was almost as if that record was done just for me. Thank you Neil Peart!
I also appreciate Anthony's interviewing technique. As k the question and let your guest talk.
Well done gents!
As a life long guitar nerd, this interview was incredible and informative. Thanks & subbed
AHHH he's so inspiring! thanks guys
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
Great video. I found it very interesting. I wish there were more videos like this on Van Halen.
Great interview! Regarding Ross' comments about Edward playing music with his son, I think everyone should be in agreement that its great they had the chance to do that and would never want to deny them the opportunity. I believe the negative feedback from the public is in response to how Edward handled Michael Anthony's dismissal.
Oh, man! What a great interview! Much appreciated, sir!!! You rock!
Longer interview than I expected, but some new fascinating facts. And I watched a lot of stuff about Eddie over time.
This was so cool ððð
Great interview. As ever... "To sound like Bonham, first you must play like Bonham"
Back when I started playing, we were limited to our first amps being a volume knob and a tone knob. You find ways to make it rock.
Amazing interview and insight into Eddieâs genius. Also, can we get a whatwhat for the amazing Moog Modular monster behind him!!!
Eddie's guitar sound comes from his hands as much as any gear he may use I think. It's really that way with all the guitar greats. I think David Gilmour has the most distinct guitar sound that seems hardly if ever been completely replicated. He uses a very simple setup and his tone comes mostly from his hands, as I'm sure does Eddie's.
His style was always there and him, acoustic or anything he picked up, no one else has it. His sound was the equipment. Thatâs why it changed so much and got worse over time. I have his signature Stealth cab and amp etc and get his sound now.
Awesome information
this guy is a legend!!
Amazing interview Anthony! The summarizing the sound section was so informative! On another note, what are you using for the bass on the intro/outro music? Sounds so good!
Thanks for watching. I composed the music and performed it all on Moog IIIc
The White Lion sound was as fresh as the VH sound to me and I learned that most guitar players who use a lot of gain, makes it harder to record. Michael Wagener ran a line out to a very clean loud amp in an isolation room and let Vito use the sounds that made him play the way he wantedâĶ. The secret sauce was reintroduce the clean back in the mix which brought back the right artifacts and harmonics and made for another huge âbrown soundâ to record. The new Kemper amp
Modeler, not only has the brown sound, but it has the IR speaker and post mix recording element plus mike tones included into the suite to get the record sound liveâĶ. We have came a long way!!!! Amazing listening to this guy about EVH!!!!
I really love van halen âĪâĪâĪ
Thank you SO MUCH
Bad ass interview
Amazing interview. The best rock band ever.
Free Valuable Gems of those who were pioneers to creative greatness; We musicians and engineer's thank you for this passionately expressed form of art... People would pay good money for these valuable techniques... Blessings to both you gentlemen.
nice micing knowledge... thankyou for sharing your producer\engineer hats.
This is so cool !!!!
Great video thank you! Love different kind of truth as much as VH1, fair warning, and 1984. Fortunate to see the corresponding tour, a bucket list item as I was 9 when 1984 came out and had no mo mo. I would have loved Anthony on the record and tour as Iâm a Roth VH purist but I totally understood Wolfieâs inclusion, and loved seeing Eddie and son interacting on stage, as I have a son of my own. Iâm so thankful they brought Roth back one more time for a great record! And I got to see them I waited 30 years for that thank you Eddie!
This is really cool. A Ribbon and SM57 has become a standard in guitar speaker micing, but I hope people understand the proximity effect strength of a figure 8 mic up close to a speaker. You can look up the Royer 121 manual for details, but it's already up 6dB by 100Hz at 1' from a source. You can imagine how strong it would be close to the speaker if it continues to double in strength every half distance.
Fantastic interview. Great insights. Thank you. But the interview ends abruptly, there must be more. Could we see the rest please. It's utterly fascinating for us VH fanatics.
People always try to make it sound like they contributed something to the first Van Halen albums. Fact is that they had all the song ready to the last detail and they played them live that way. There was not much production effort needed. But they did a great job capturing that live feel
The story I had read was that Ed was driving a car with a blown speaker, so he was only hearing the wet effects of his guitar. That upset him, that then lead to how he developed his glorious wet/dry/wet sound.
Yup, that's what it was all about. Ed Wanted to play with his boy, I get it,I understand. It was after he recovered from his first bout with throat cancer. He knew he wasn't gonna be around till old age. It needed to happen when it did.
It gave Wolfy the experience he needed to become the performer he is today. He gave him a career.
100% agreed although Wolfie wasn't coddled along which makes him special in his own right. He didn't sit with dad for hours on end learning how to play. He did most of his learning on his own. He even said that Ed was't a very good teacher. Edward recognized the talent didn't fall from the family tree with Wolf, embraced it and took it from there. To me, thats the coolest thing ever. Wolf's his own guy and Ed told everyone that he was going to surprise everyone (before he passed). Ed was right. We get to witness Van Halen lineage with Wolf. Thats a gift in to itself.
I kinda feel bad for Eddie... He wasn't a healthy guy and I am just glad that despite all that he had a nice chunk of time where he seemed quite happy.
FINALLYâĶ we guitar fanatics get the answers we have been seeking for decades!!!!