This guy has to get props. He had to witness this on Collison for sure, then he sees it at the show, then his opponent won't go on, and then the guy convinces him to go on and PUTS HIM OVER. I mean GD give Joe serious props.
Listen to the Cornette podcast. He explains the IDIOCY of the real glass. The IDIOCY of doing this right before Punk was about to wrestle. And the IDIOCY of anyone thinking CM Punk is the 'issue' in that company.
@@garymck5181CM punk is an issue but, he is an issue amongst many issues. Even if jack perry did verbally disrespect punk based on the cry me s river quote only, fuk is punk getting physical for 🤷♂️
Sounds like the response a very soft person would have. A normal person would just take a cab. Wrestlers have been responsible for their own travel since literally forever, why is this any different? Can Punk not afford a cab from the airport to his hotel? Even if that was the case, I’m sure Tony Khan would’ve spotted him the $40 if he really needed them.
@@ArcanaEricdid you not listen to the fucking clip? It’s impossible to get a cab or Uber from Heathrow. I went to the aisle of Malta for a festival and 95% of the people at the festival were from England and were all in a WhatsApp chat and everyone was asking “did you get a cab?” “Anyone find a cab and can I ride with?” after they all got back from the festival. So if people who live anywhere from London to Yorkshire are struggling to find a cab at their local airport, imagine being a guy from Chicago who is left stranded and doesn’t know the London Transportation System. Kind of a fucked situation. So yeah, maybe listen to the clip before saying shit that Alvarez literally addressed WITH HIS OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE FROM THE WEEKEND.
Why do you need an investigation when TK was there watching it, along with plenty of other people. Is he going to interrogate himself as to what he saw ?
Its because "plenty of other people" have conflicting stories so you need an official person to question and put together what really happened and put it on paper
Tony needs to start kicking shit around and out an end to this. I get the tough spot he’s in, but as someone who has been a business leader I can say there are times, even when you’re more comfortable as a “cool boss” type of leader, that you have to lay down the law. It’s beyond time for that.
100% agree. That, and I think its time to let CM Punk walk. At the end of the day, we're talking about a guy whos nearing his 50s and way past his prime. I get that he may be a draw but if its for the sake of the younger talent who might explore other options like NXT/WWE, you need to do whats best for business
At the end of the day - it’s actually going to have to be Tony Khan himself who puts a stop to this nonsense once and for all. But that’s going to be tough because he is obviously such a fanboy himself. And these Wrestlers clearly all know this are obviously taking advantage. I mean- Could you even imagine any of this stuff happening with Vince or Hunter? WWE has it’s obvious faults - but the talent there knows that this kind of craziness would definitely not be tolerated.
This shit happened all the time in WWE. Locker room fights, backstage politics, shoot promos referencing behind the scenes rumours, Vince himself got punched by Bret after the screwjob. To say Vince wouldn't put up with this kind of stuff isn't true because it's a fact that not only would he, he did. At the end of the day, Vince cared about drawing money and it didn't matter to him if wrestlers hated each other backstage, as long as they drew money. The only difference between now and then is social media. In the old days, shit would go down and you'd only hear about it if you read the dirt sheets. These days, people are tweeting, releasing TH-cam videos etc within hours or even minutes of events happening.
@@johnrigs6540Not true. Jericho stepped up to both Goldberg and Brock, Booker T and Batista had a fight in a back room, etc. The difference is that WWE usually keep a tighter lid on things initially so we only hear about them weeks or months after the fact, usually because the Talent knows they are on the chopping block if they leak it.
imagine cena or goldberg getting called out on live ppv like this by someone on the level of charlie haas (no disrespec to ma boi) it would not be an issue because jungle would not be employed by the time he got backstage. Goldberg would probably spear him.
No matter who is right or who is wrong the bigger issue is that tony khan needs to establish authority of which he seems incapable as proven by avoiding 'difficult' conversations such as non renewals etc
@@ReviewerRandom2It's literally the only thing AEW marks are talking about. The company is a complete joke! WWE just laughing at this shit show from afar.
These clowns get their dicks hot spreading lies & rumors against wrestlers their favorite mark wrestlers don’t like. It’s best to point out their lies & pay no attention to them. It’s kinda weird if you think about it obsessing over one dude just because your friends don’t like him.
Punk and Miro apparently just joked around. Weird considering Miro's tweet about the fake story- maybe he thought he could just kill the reports off and prevent another Punk scandal leaking? We know Miro has a hostile opinion of wrestling news outlets.
@@yosefvargasx I didn't see the tweet but was it a black cab? London's black cabs are pretty famous and a tourist attraction unto themselves. It could have been a genuine comment about London cabs.
@@jedsithor We have white taxi cabs here also. I don't think it was a jab at Punk, though I initially did. Miro just recently said how great his interactions with Punk have been in an interview about 2 weeks ago. He also said if people have a problem with Punk to cry about it i their mansions.
Management asked CM Punk to discuss it with jungle boy. You need to stress that point. Now the jungle boy has thrown his binky, Management needs to intercede.
Given more than ever they were different versions and the Miro-Punk thing has already been debunked, I'd just let this pass over and then have meetings after. Which is what should have happen first out
Also Bryan should mention that with the Perry Glass incident, people went to Punk after producers including Tony Schivaone told Jack not to do it and this when Punk has been put in position to produce. But aside from that the Dynamite guys ask Jack to rent his own car?
It's so weird that Brian is saying the show started late. I was actually going to grab some food and drinks before the show starts to not miss anything and at 17:56 (I remember watching the time) Joe's music started. By 18:00 the match was on, which feels like the standard 5 minutes delay for live tv. I might be wrong, but I'm quite confident about this.
I had the feeling that it was quite quick to start the match, I also had to run get things because it started right away. But I watched on fite TV. I know that my friends in USA were way behind me when we were watching. Think they watched on BT or something. 🤷🏼♀️
"‘Let him be their headache’” - Vince Mcmahon 2021 Theres a reason Vince & WWE never consider bringin Punk back even with all the Fox and Saudi billionare deal that could pay him a gigant salary with no problem
@Nostalgia9478 it was a bit different then. At that time, he was the only real top draw they had following Diesel until Austin got hot. See also that he eventually got fired a couple years after the back injury. Punk isnt to AEW what HBK was to WWF in the 90s
@@retrokohCHICKENbottom wasnt drawing a dime in 97, Bro. Thats why he lost his smile in Feb of 97 after FAILING as the Face of WWF in less than a year. WWF almost went out of Business in 97 thanks to CHICKENbottoms inability to draw as World Champ in 96/97..And Hbk was NEVER fired..McMoystache paid Hbk to sit home for 4 years with that back injury. Lol McMoustache was just in love with Hbk. Thats the truth of the situation. Vince wouldnt let anyone else get away with the shennigans HBK pulled
This dude is trying so hard to make punk to be the villain. He’s even tried to make Kenny omega to be the good sport. I’m sorry, but you guys have lied one too many times.
So who were the primadonnas in WWE when Punk was there then? It seems really damn odd no matter where he goes, he whines, complains and gets involved in drama bs. It stops being everyone else if it's the same person in all the fights.
@@mulldrifterz6469 When did Punk ever have a physical confrontation with anyone in his NINE YEARS with WWE? Ill wait EVERY wrestler complains about Money/Booking at some point. Its really damn odd that Elitist Marks are pretending that Punk is the first and last guy in Wrassling to ever complain about something. Lol Its 100 pct Everyone else when the common denominator among everyone else is their Elitist ties. Punk has no issues with the segment of the roster NOT affiliated with the POS Elitists. Hence the Collision show having perfect harmony backstage till that Spoiled Vanilla Toothpicj Primadonna Cancer Jungle Boy showed up
This is another example of the AEW culture where you have guys who think they are above constructive criticism and/or advice from more experienced wrestlers in the business.
You can only trust SRS to report on this because he goes to everybody for comment. Dave and Alv go to The Bucks camp and Hauseman and Johnson go to Punk's Camp. So SRS is the only one thats none biased.
This is hilarious...that is actually a story. Wrestlers have fought each other for years. But because of space like this is concerned major news.Vince's legal troubles and him selling WWE didn't get this much traction. It due to people like this man who want to be a part of the story.
@perleatsworld thats bullsh*t. Vince "left " and came back,sold the company his family has for 73 years. Had affairs with subordinates and gave one to his head of talent relations. From steroids, sexual harassment etc. And people act as if Punk did something worse....kick rocks. My bad let me be proper...agitate the gravel, dear sir
Alvarez: "Can we stop talking about Punk?" Also Alvarez: "Let's make a bunch of videos based on stupid hearsay and things we don't even know if they're accurate".
You know Meltzer and the Stoosge, always have to find a way to spin stories. He’s looking for anything to make it so that Punk started…even if that means pretending, that Jungle Bitch didn’t bring up the drama on camera during their biggest event.
Punk would’ve done the exact same thing if the roles had been reversed and you know it. You think a young CM Punk would’ve accepted some “veteran” telling him not to do a spot he wanted? Now, I think he could’ve convinced Perry not to do the spot in a civilized manner, by saying “Look, real glass is really dangerous, people have gotten seriously injured before, I’m just trying to look out for you because I don’t want you getting hurt”. However, “We don’t do that shit on Saturdays” doesn’t really convey that same message now does it? At that point you’re just guaranteeing they will do it just to spite you.
@@perryco34 He was talking to him like a child, which again, practically guaranteed Perry would do the spot, simply out of spite, exactly as Punk would’ve done if the roles were reversed.
Bryan is insufferable. I've never seen a guy have such a high opinion about himself and what he's saying, while he's smirking, and getting high on hearing himself talk. I'm dead serious here.
I was in London earlier this year the waiting line for uber is in another building if it's Heathrow airport. Sometimes, it's hard to get Uber, but my situation is unique as Uber in my country, was bought over by Grab and whatever i had in that account became void but yet, that data apparently was still there and bind to my country's number so it was super hard to get an uber. It had to be a UK number which i learn on the LAST day of my time there so I can imagine Punk being , whatever, let's use the train . Edit: UK cabs, the black ones like to overcharge apparently
Bryan, Jack Perry is not CM Punk nor is he anywhere near the draw and he hasn’t paid the dues that Punk has. What Jack did is truly something he should have been fired for. You sitting here defending him and we all know you hate punk and you don’t even try to hide it. Your unbiased journalism has become quite biased I hate to say it.
Although the thought of not being able to catch an uber in London might be very assured it was a Bank Holiday with not only London Carnival which alone brings around 2 million people to the capital alongside All In and other activities/events and the last Bank Holiday of summer plus alot of flight disruption its very feasible people like Brian and Punk would have struggled to find Ubers
Appropriate because Punk is a man child. if he doesn't get his way absolutely perfectly, he bitches and wants to fight. Doesn't matter if it's AEW it happened in WWE and OVW too.
I can't blame CM Punk for getting aggravated by his travel issues. AEW dropped the ball there. Think they also dropped the ball when they gave CM Punk a bigger role backstage, though.
I heard punk and miros “altercation” was in jest. Punk said “what do you wanna fight me too?” Jokingly and miro said “yeah let’s fight” as a joke and punk said “let’s go outside” as a joke then miro said “no… LETS TAKE THIS TO THE RING!” As a joke.
Wasn't it management that said Perry couldn't do the spot and management asked punk to intervene on their behalf? Why is punk being put in the role of main antagonist to Perry? Schivone was a main guy in that, so what's with all the "punk did this and that"?
@@Bubba__Sawyer wrong how? Reporting states that management scuppered the spot and asked punk to intervene on their behalf. All sides say this, except when they are retelling the story, then they leave out management and blame punk exclusively. Even when Perry said "it's real glass, cry me a River" he wasn't just talking to punk, though punk is the only person to say something. He was talking to everyone that baulked at the idea of using real glass. Schivone was the number one guy saying no. Why no hate for him? It's because whether people realise it or not, people are obsessed with punk, so he gets all the hate. The whole real glass issue had very little to do with punk, outside of the final say(or so it is reported). You can't even say punk wasn't in the right for talking Perry out of doing a spot with real glass, no matter the intentions, using real glass is not smart. As Alvarez says, "glass has a history of going into business for itself".
As someone who lives near London can confirm getting an Uber is some areas is either hit or miss, or pretty much impossible. I know some areas, like Chelmsford in Essex, have some weird rules or laws that forbid Ubers operating in that area.
Punk is in his locker room when the bucks and Omega bust in and he is somehow guilty. Jungle boy takes a shot at punk during the car spot and punk calls him out after... and punk is the bad guy. If these children want to dish it out, they need to learn to take it in return. And YES, Tony needs to stand up and take control of his business!
Ok OK again who said that he is all at fault he shouldn’t have been fighting he threw the first punch and he’s the one who put hands on Jack Perry he’s the one who talked to Jack Perry again nobody’s saying he’s 100% guilty but the act like this fool has no Fulton it is just laughably stupid
@flyguy7825 some guy kicks your door in... what do you do? I suspect you would defend your home and personal space. As for Perry, I'm not going to say Punk was in the right, but if Tony took control of stuff, these guys wouldn't be acting this way on either side. He is the one losing money every time the 2 sides have this p*ss*ng contest
@@Jody6441 Again your operating under impression that they actually take the doorman and we'll compare. There were reports where they didn't do that!! Lol too many click the stories to say who's in the right or wrong. I think they're all in the wrong!!!
From straight edge to straight jerk. Jokes aside, this is SAD. I basically restart watching wrestling because of this guy on his ECW run. I became a fan instantly. Then all that BS happened last year, with the cringe media scrum and the brawl out. And now I'm done. I can't support him anymore. I truly wish he takes a long break, relax and work on his mental health and be happy again. This isn't normal behavior, this isn't the behavior of a happy people. It's just sad. I not here to crucify the guy, nobody is perfect, including me. Everyone has a bad day. But this screams unprofessionalism. I hope Tony be professional too and don't give the guy a pass AGAIN.
Three letters: ECW. All of this has been done before and, with unprotected chair shots or other legit shots to the head being the only exception I can think of, none of it did long-term damage to the workers. They even used glass in the Blood And Guts match not that long ago, and nobody was injured.
Seriously, have you not seen their product there allowed to use bob wire? They're allowed to use cooking sheets. They're allowed to use all sorts of household items and appliances and chairs in hardcore matches, but a guy who wants to use real glass that somehow is a ridiculous stupid thing to say
This story angle about Perry getting injured before All In makes no sense. Why would he get injured before the match? He wouldn’t of been cleared to work. Then what would have been the match after the ROH tag title? You’re only proving how Tony doesn’t know how to book his events. Because CM Punk was the Voice of reason to make Perry wait to work at All In. Side Note: Miro and Punk knows Bryan is such a Mark, they jokingly acted like they were mad at each other and were going to fight next. When in reality it was to rib this idiot to spread more fake news. Brodie lee, miro and Punk all road to the event together 😂
As a "crippled-toothed Brit"... Can we please keep Joe? That Shearer hand-up goal celebration slayed me. Fans loved him. He loved the fans. Honestly, can we start the adoption process already?
Did Jack get any more over from the car spot? No. Combat Zone Tony approved it? Whatever. I’d love a ton of sharp glass in Jack Perry, what does CM Punk care? Sweet of him to care.
What the hell is Bryan talking about the show starting 10 minutes late? They literally did a quick open to the show and within a minute Joe was walking out to the ring. Do you research first before reporting these things.
On Mondays Being The Elite it was funny watching them leave the airport in a private hire car especially hearing reports that Punk didn't have a hire car.
@joeyskywalker1322 im sorry. I made the mistake of actually following the details of the story rather than just going by some general statement that you heard somewhere that doesnt apply in this specific case.
Punk and perry are natural enemies! Like punk and the elite! Or punk and miro! Or punk and triple h! Or punk and seth rollins! Or punk and roman reigns! Damn cm punk! He ruined cm punk!
Of all this, from the Hangman shoot on Punk in the ring a year and a half ago, to the brawl out between Punk and The Elite, to the shots taken by both non stop over the past year, to this shit last week, Meltzer and Alvarez have never smeared Omega or the Bucks like Punk. It usually has a few bits of both sides, then the narrative is "it's punk". Somehow the Elite or AEW have done nothing wrong really. Odd
Well, who is the common denominator in all of these stories that also has a record of being difficult coworker in other promotions? If it smells like sh!t everywhere you go… you should probably check your shoes.
@@milk_bath its common denominators here. Every situation involved both Punk yes, but also involved someone from the Elite or one of their close friends.
Say "use real glass", and the story was also that collison management had asked him first not to do it then turned to CM Punk when Jungle Boy didnt take that advise.
Anything from the Perry/Bucks side is hard for me to believe. I'm not Punk's biggest fan, but a midcard guy going in to business for himself on a main event guy is stupid. Perry is a part of the entitlement generation that throws hissy fits when they don't get their way.
Bingo! Nailed it. This is the softest generation ever. We need a war to restore the testosterone in this country. Too many soft, comfortable pussies these days
Biggest takeaway, Samoa Joe is a real professional.
This guy has to get props. He had to witness this on Collison for sure, then he sees it at the show, then his opponent won't go on, and then the guy convinces him to go on and PUTS HIM OVER. I mean GD give Joe serious props.
No, the biggest takeaway is that there's so much drama behind the scenes it's sad because it is slowly killing the company.
Joe should have shot on him but that title ain't worth shit
@@flyguy7825Killing the company 😂 Did you miss the whole show part of the...show 😂
He's lucky he wasn't injured on that Pepsi plunge
Heard someone say CM Punk is South Park Russell Crowe fightin' round the world and it makes so much sense.
Where’s Tugger?
Yeah it was Joey Janela.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881ace
Fucking awesome episode btw
WHATS SOUTH PARK???
the weirdest part about all this is that there is like 773 versions of a 90 second incident?
Listen to the Cornette podcast. He explains the IDIOCY of the real glass. The IDIOCY of doing this right before Punk was about to wrestle. And the IDIOCY of anyone thinking CM Punk is the 'issue' in that company.
@@garymck5181cornette knows
It's all he say she say crap it's stupid
@@garymck5181 How about calling people counterfeit bucks! Is that IDIOCY?
@@garymck5181CM punk is an issue but, he is an issue amongst many issues. Even if jack perry did verbally disrespect punk based on the cry me s river quote only, fuk is punk getting physical for 🤷♂️
The Miro thing has already been revealed to be BS. It was a joke conversation between Punk & Miro.
I agree with Booker T on this I get off a plane to a foreign country and nobody is there to meet me Im gonna get back on the plane and go home.
Sounds like the response a very soft person would have. A normal person would just take a cab.
Wrestlers have been responsible for their own travel since literally forever, why is this any different? Can Punk not afford a cab from the airport to his hotel? Even if that was the case, I’m sure Tony Khan would’ve spotted him the $40 if he really needed them.
@@ArcanaEricdid you not listen to the fucking clip? It’s impossible to get a cab or Uber from Heathrow. I went to the aisle of Malta for a festival and 95% of the people at the festival were from England and were all in a WhatsApp chat and everyone was asking “did you get a cab?” “Anyone find a cab and can I ride with?” after they all got back from the festival. So if people who live anywhere from London to Yorkshire are struggling to find a cab at their local airport, imagine being a guy from Chicago who is left stranded and doesn’t know the London Transportation System. Kind of a fucked situation. So yeah, maybe listen to the clip before saying shit that Alvarez literally addressed WITH HIS OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE FROM THE WEEKEND.
Why do you need an investigation when TK was there watching it, along with plenty of other people. Is he going to interrogate himself as to what he saw ?
HR protocol. His being a witness will likely expedite things though.
Man, that conversation between good TK and bad TK would seem awfully entertaining.
Probably saying it to make some kind of statement, instead of just saying nothing.
Legal bs
Its because "plenty of other people" have conflicting stories so you need an official person to question and put together what really happened and put it on paper
I don’t believe a word Alvarez and Meltzer say when it comes to Cm Punk
Bryan Alvarez lying about CM Punk? Surely not?
Where is the lie?
Idunno man I'm looking around and I can't find a lie
He won’t say jungle boy got choked out for 30 seconds 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bryan taking more Ls than Brandon Cutler when it comes to Punk
Tony needs to start kicking shit around and out an end to this. I get the tough spot he’s in, but as someone who has been a business leader I can say there are times, even when you’re more comfortable as a “cool boss” type of leader, that you have to lay down the law. It’s beyond time for that.
How is Tony Khan in a rough spot he’s the boss of the company he needs to be a boss
He's afraid of his own talent of being sued.
100% agree. That, and I think its time to let CM Punk walk. At the end of the day, we're talking about a guy whos nearing his 50s and way past his prime. I get that he may be a draw but if its for the sake of the younger talent who might explore other options like NXT/WWE, you need to do whats best for business
At the end of the day - it’s actually going to have to be Tony Khan himself who puts a stop to this nonsense once and for all.
But that’s going to be tough because he is obviously such a fanboy himself.
And these Wrestlers clearly all know this are obviously taking advantage.
I mean-
Could you even imagine any of this stuff happening with Vince or Hunter?
WWE has it’s obvious faults - but the talent there knows that this kind of craziness would definitely not be tolerated.
This shit happened all the time in WWE. Locker room fights, backstage politics, shoot promos referencing behind the scenes rumours, Vince himself got punched by Bret after the screwjob.
To say Vince wouldn't put up with this kind of stuff isn't true because it's a fact that not only would he, he did. At the end of the day, Vince cared about drawing money and it didn't matter to him if wrestlers hated each other backstage, as long as they drew money.
The only difference between now and then is social media. In the old days, shit would go down and you'd only hear about it if you read the dirt sheets. These days, people are tweeting, releasing TH-cam videos etc within hours or even minutes of events happening.
@@jedsithorexactly and he didint say you can’t use glass he said “we don’t do that shit on Saturday nights”
@@jedsithor
You are right!
It definitely happened a lot years back
Doesn’t happen much now though!
@@johnrigs6540Not true. Jericho stepped up to both Goldberg and Brock, Booker T and Batista had a fight in a back room, etc. The difference is that WWE usually keep a tighter lid on things initially so we only hear about them weeks or months after the fact, usually because the Talent knows they are on the chopping block if they leak it.
imagine cena or goldberg getting called out on live ppv like this by someone on the level of charlie haas (no disrespec to ma boi) it would not be an issue because jungle would not be employed by the time he got backstage. Goldberg would probably spear him.
Real glass should never be used in a wrestling match.
You also don't poke the bear after you're told not to do the specific spot.
Exactly. Perry has come out of this looking like an idiot
What are you on about? Punk isn't the boss.
SRS confirmed that Punk and miro were just joking around.
Yeah I figured. Punk and Miro actually like each other.
No matter who is right or who is wrong the bigger issue is that tony khan needs to establish authority of which he seems incapable as proven by avoiding 'difficult' conversations such as non renewals etc
“I wasn’t there, but I’ll do my best to tell you what happened and you can make up your own mind”
Bryan Alvarez in a nut shell 😂😂
Ignoring facts like how many people from AEW he talked to before reporting the story. Idiots on the internet in a nut shell.
Yeah, it’s called “news”
After Jack being told by producers and other AEW Staff to not use it. Punk was then told to tell him not to because he was going to do it anyway.
Backstage nonsense continues to hurt this company. Tk needs a solid team to handle things. He should be only writing checks.
"Hurting this company". They literally got the biggest gate in wrestling history. Nobody cares besides the IWC bubble.
Least Vince McMahon mostly had his locker rooms in check.
@@ReviewerRandom2It's literally the only thing AEW marks are talking about. The company is a complete joke! WWE just laughing at this shit show from afar.
I could not agree more.
@@ReviewerRandom2delusional if you believe those numbers
TK and Tony Shavonoe asked Punk to talk to Jack Perry about not doing the spot. Punk was asked to talk to Perry.
Hasn't the Punk/Miro thing been debunked?
Yes, by Sean Ross Sapp
Repeatedly. Almost immediately by Miro himself
These clowns get their dicks hot spreading lies & rumors against wrestlers their favorite mark wrestlers don’t like. It’s best to point out their lies & pay no attention to them. It’s kinda weird if you think about it obsessing over one dude just because your friends don’t like him.
@@DavidH1 who is a CM Punk spokesperson
This video aged like milk. You two goofs got exposed as liars and hacks.
Punk and Miro apparently just joked around. Weird considering Miro's tweet about the fake story- maybe he thought he could just kill the reports off and prevent another Punk scandal leaking? We know Miro has a hostile opinion of wrestling news outlets.
He should... they're killing the industry...
Why would Miro tweet nice cab if they were just joking
I think miro was referring to him and punk fake argument/fighting
@@yosefvargasx I didn't see the tweet but was it a black cab? London's black cabs are pretty famous and a tourist attraction unto themselves. It could have been a genuine comment about London cabs.
@@jedsithor We have white taxi cabs here also. I don't think it was a jab at Punk, though I initially did. Miro just recently said how great his interactions with Punk have been in an interview about 2 weeks ago. He also said if people have a problem with Punk to cry about it i their mansions.
Management asked CM Punk to discuss it with jungle boy. You need to stress that point. Now the jungle boy has thrown his binky, Management needs to intercede.
CM Punk is management
According to whom?
Yeah haven’t heard this anywhere. Source?
@@dopplerdevan at 4:41 of THIS video. Did you watch this video?
@@Bubba__Sawyer at 4:41 of THIS video. Did you watch this video?
Given more than ever they were different versions and the Miro-Punk thing has already been debunked, I'd just let this pass over and then have meetings after. Which is what should have happen first out
Also Bryan should mention that with the Perry Glass incident, people went to Punk after producers including Tony Schivaone told Jack not to do it and this when Punk has been put in position to produce. But aside from that the Dynamite guys ask Jack to rent his own car?
More details on the CM Punk/Jack Perry altercation needs a deep rewind. Goofproof version.
It's so weird that Brian is saying the show started late. I was actually going to grab some food and drinks before the show starts to not miss anything and at 17:56 (I remember watching the time) Joe's music started. By 18:00 the match was on, which feels like the standard 5 minutes delay for live tv. I might be wrong, but I'm quite confident about this.
(just checked the time on the metadata on my phone, cm punk's entrance was done by 18:05 bst)
I had the feeling that it was quite quick to start the match, I also had to run get things because it started right away. But I watched on fite TV. I know that my friends in USA were way behind me when we were watching. Think they watched on BT or something. 🤷🏼♀️
@@systerkeno I mean, the show was quite front loaded! The rythm was intense also at the show - match, super short promo, match etc
@@thenotoriousfoca1339 I agree
AEW travel coordinator is a Bucks mark. Wiped his twitter once people started calling him out about it.
This is where TK need to grow a set and be a boss instead of a "friend"
"‘Let him be their headache’”
- Vince Mcmahon 2021
Theres a reason Vince & WWE never consider bringin Punk back even with all the Fox and Saudi billionare deal that could pay him a gigant salary with no problem
Yea. Its just too bad McMoustache didnt use that logic when it came to CHICKENBottom in 1997
@@CannedHam2479mark 😂
@@ericdraven8784Mark 🤣🥹🤣😁🤣
@Nostalgia9478 it was a bit different then. At that time, he was the only real top draw they had following Diesel until Austin got hot. See also that he eventually got fired a couple years after the back injury.
Punk isnt to AEW what HBK was to WWF in the 90s
@@retrokohCHICKENbottom wasnt drawing a dime in 97, Bro. Thats why he lost his smile in Feb of 97 after FAILING as the Face of WWF in less than a year. WWF almost went out of Business in 97 thanks to CHICKENbottoms inability to draw as World Champ in 96/97..And Hbk was NEVER fired..McMoystache paid Hbk to sit home for 4 years with that back injury. Lol
McMoustache was just in love with Hbk. Thats the truth of the situation. Vince wouldnt let anyone else get away with the shennigans HBK pulled
This dude is trying so hard to make punk to be the villain. He’s even tried to make Kenny omega to be the good sport. I’m sorry, but you guys have lied one too many times.
So this video still went up hours after we've already heard via SRS that Miro/Punk was the two of them joking around?
yes this clown just hates cm punk
The Elitist Primadonna Crew are the Cancers and CM Punk is the CURE!
So who were the primadonnas in WWE when Punk was there then? It seems really damn odd no matter where he goes, he whines, complains and gets involved in drama bs. It stops being everyone else if it's the same person in all the fights.
@@mulldrifterz6469 When did Punk ever have a physical confrontation with anyone in his NINE YEARS with WWE? Ill wait
EVERY wrestler complains about Money/Booking at some point. Its really damn odd that Elitist Marks are pretending that Punk is the first and last guy in Wrassling to ever complain about something. Lol
Its 100 pct Everyone else when the common denominator among everyone else is their Elitist ties. Punk has no issues with the segment of the roster NOT affiliated with the POS Elitists. Hence the Collision show having perfect harmony backstage till that Spoiled Vanilla Toothpicj Primadonna Cancer Jungle Boy showed up
Man The Elite along with their buddies backstage and in the dirt sheets really have it out for this guy.
This is another example of the AEW culture where you have guys who think they are above constructive criticism and/or advice from more experienced wrestlers in the business.
You can only trust SRS to report on this because he goes to everybody for comment. Dave and Alv go to The Bucks camp and Hauseman and Johnson go to Punk's Camp. So SRS is the only one thats none biased.
The punk camp has talked to meltzer more than the bucks during post-brawl out. They’re not even involved in this situation.
And Cornette and his sideckick always take Punk side also lol
@@proxytag ahahahahahahahaha that's the biggest joke right there
This is hilarious...that is actually a story. Wrestlers have fought each other for years. But because of space like this is concerned major news.Vince's legal troubles and him selling WWE didn't get this much traction. It due to people like this man who want to be a part of the story.
Vince's legal troubles made mainstream news for months lmao what are you talking about
@perleatsworld thats bullsh*t. Vince "left " and came back,sold the company his family has for 73 years. Had affairs with subordinates and gave one to his head of talent relations. From steroids, sexual harassment etc. And people act as if Punk did something worse....kick rocks. My bad let me be proper...agitate the gravel, dear sir
Yes because people like Brian here have a hate boner for punk and he's literally friends with meltzer
Alvarez/Meltzer are so team Elite and their buddies it's hilarious
Alvarez: "Can we stop talking about Punk?"
Also Alvarez: "Let's make a bunch of videos based on stupid hearsay and things we don't even know if they're accurate".
Lol so true
It was going so well for Alvarez until he brought up the Miro stuff that has been debunked 😂
punk started it is what Bryan’s trying to say even tho most reports say jungle boy say he was the that confronted punk.
You know Meltzer and the Stoosge, always have to find a way to spin stories. He’s looking for anything to make it so that Punk started…even if that means pretending, that Jungle Bitch didn’t bring up the drama on camera during their biggest event.
I love that your sources lied to you about the Miro Punk story. Funny stuff
i love punk beating all these idiots but it's the most interesting part of the company and it's never on tv ☠
It was very quick. Even faster than CM Punk’s UFC matches.
He spent three years training. You spent 3 years typing
Now imagine how quickly Matty Jackson and Jungle Boy would tap in UFC. lol
@@CannedHam2479 It would be quick for sure.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 A LOT quicker than Punks UFC fights. LOL
@@Stevenknowsnewslol wow it’s really sad people acting g like cm punk is like a badass. Okay buddy 😂
Bryan has just become the Jerry Springer of the dirt sheets.
The fact that Perry was bleeding from doing the glass spot proves punk right all along.
Punk would’ve done the exact same thing if the roles had been reversed and you know it. You think a young CM Punk would’ve accepted some “veteran” telling him not to do a spot he wanted?
Now, I think he could’ve convinced Perry not to do the spot in a civilized manner, by saying “Look, real glass is really dangerous, people have gotten seriously injured before, I’m just trying to look out for you because I don’t want you getting hurt”.
However, “We don’t do that shit on Saturdays” doesn’t really convey that same message now does it? At that point you’re just guaranteeing they will do it just to spite you.
@@ArcanaEric he’s not the boss. He was talking to him like a grown man.
@@perryco34
He was talking to him like a child, which again, practically guaranteed Perry would do the spot, simply out of spite, exactly as Punk would’ve done if the roles were reversed.
Jack Perry is the type to refuse a role in Jurassic Park because they refuse to let him film with real dinosaurs!
Hilarious
Corny.
You're moaning about Jack Perry when punks causing all this unnecessary drama. Cool.
lol
If I had the chance to be in a Jurassic Park movie and I couldn't work with REAL dinosaurs, I'd be mad too!
Bryan Lievarez
I love how the Miro story was debunked by sundown on Twitter lmao.
I would love to see Miro beat the absolute shit out of Punk for acting like a child.
Triple H work-shoot promos on CM Punk leading up to their match in September 2011 aged perfectly
Ye Gods, reading just a bit of this comment section i'm reminded why Bryan cancelled doing free Observer Live shows for this "audiance"
Bryan is insufferable. I've never seen a guy have such a high opinion about himself and what he's saying, while he's smirking, and getting high on hearing himself talk. I'm dead serious here.
Is brain gonna apologize for trying to say punk and Miro had a heated exchange when they are actually good friends
Nope, he won’t even correct the story
Not if it can continue to help him push his narrative!
Do you think Punk ever gets in fights with his reflection?
You wanna step outside!!????
Nah he’s too busy worshipping himself
Yeah like Robert De Niro in Taxi Driver. You talking to me ? 😂
I was in London earlier this year the waiting line for uber is in another building if it's Heathrow airport. Sometimes, it's hard to get Uber, but my situation is unique as Uber in my country, was bought over by Grab and whatever i had in that account became void but yet, that data apparently was still there and bind to my country's number so it was super hard to get an uber. It had to be a UK number which i learn on the LAST day of my time there so I can imagine Punk being , whatever, let's use the train .
Edit:
UK cabs, the black ones like to overcharge apparently
I also heard punk tried to solve world hunger with Tony khan's money but Perry stopped him.
Punk was brought in. The managers wanted gimmicked glass. They canceled the spot. Punk didn't.
Bryan, Jack Perry is not CM Punk nor is he anywhere near the draw and he hasn’t paid the dues that Punk has. What Jack did is truly something he should have been fired for. You sitting here defending him and we all know you hate punk and you don’t even try to hide it. Your unbiased journalism has become quite biased I hate to say it.
"I heard this from multiple people" Yeah and i bet their names were Nick, Matt, Adam and Kenny 👍🏻
This genuinely made me laugh 😂😂
Please punk don’t go!
You forgot to mention how all the executives didn't want him to use glass either. A bunch of vets told him no too.
I keep seeing this narrative but it doesnt omit the fact that theres been worse shit done in AEW. Let that boy Jack live! Its not that serious.
@@xxreyoxxto be fair, he WAS told to do it on dynamite if he wants to
@@ScarDDT that makes Jack even more in the right. Why would he waste a spot like that for Dynamite?
@@xxreyoxx to save me from seeing it
@@ScarDDT yeah that doesnt make sense either but good try
many people told me..... is the elite and friends.
Although the thought of not being able to catch an uber in London might be very assured it was a Bank Holiday with not only London Carnival which alone brings around 2 million people to the capital alongside All In and other activities/events and the last Bank Holiday of summer plus alot of flight disruption its very feasible people like Brian and Punk would have struggled to find Ubers
Siding with Punk on this. He is trying to run a business with a bunch of children
Appropriate because Punk is a man child. if he doesn't get his way absolutely perfectly, he bitches and wants to fight. Doesn't matter if it's AEW it happened in WWE and OVW too.
Its easier to get the tube from Heathrow
Be funny if punk got met line train to watford 🤣🤣🤣
AEW really needs to have an "Undertaker" on the locker room.
Fire Jack perry
*Jack Fairy
I can't blame CM Punk for getting aggravated by his travel issues. AEW dropped the ball there. Think they also dropped the ball when they gave CM Punk a bigger role backstage, though.
I think the real issue here is that the car didn't have Collision insurance
If they are suspended and the company doesn’t tell them, isn’t that extremely unprofessional on Tony Khan’s part?
I heard punk and miros “altercation” was in jest. Punk said “what do you wanna fight me too?” Jokingly and miro said “yeah let’s fight” as a joke and punk said “let’s go outside” as a joke then miro said “no… LETS TAKE THIS TO THE RING!” As a joke.
Source: Trust me bro
@@christerry1611 If I'm not mistaken Sean Ross Sapp reported this, and his reports tend to be a bit less biased
Of course. Punk isn’t going to fight a man of that size. Only the little bucks and jungle boy. Punk is a man baby not an idiot.
Alvarez is really really trying to spin this as Punk's fault.
Because it is.
@@mulldrifterz6469 I don't think so this time. Really sounds like this was Jungle Boy this time.
@@vortex_1336it takes two you know.....
yeah it’s punks fault he stopped a moron like jungle boy from hurting himself…
Sounds like Perry lost the fight lol
Wasn't it management that said Perry couldn't do the spot and management asked punk to intervene on their behalf? Why is punk being put in the role of main antagonist to Perry? Schivone was a main guy in that, so what's with all the "punk did this and that"?
Right
@@MrRBX Wrong actually.
@@Bubba__Sawyer wrong how? Reporting states that management scuppered the spot and asked punk to intervene on their behalf. All sides say this, except when they are retelling the story, then they leave out management and blame punk exclusively. Even when Perry said "it's real glass, cry me a River" he wasn't just talking to punk, though punk is the only person to say something. He was talking to everyone that baulked at the idea of using real glass. Schivone was the number one guy saying no. Why no hate for him? It's because whether people realise it or not, people are obsessed with punk, so he gets all the hate. The whole real glass issue had very little to do with punk, outside of the final say(or so it is reported). You can't even say punk wasn't in the right for talking Perry out of doing a spot with real glass, no matter the intentions, using real glass is not smart. As Alvarez says, "glass has a history of going into business for itself".
Because that doesn't fit Brian's narrative
In summary, Punk tells jungle boy he could kick his ass… then proceeds to kick his ass lmao
So what you’re saying is Tony Khan was in a hardcore shoot match?
As someone who lives near London can confirm getting an Uber is some areas is either hit or miss, or pretty much impossible. I know some areas, like Chelmsford in Essex, have some weird rules or laws that forbid Ubers operating in that area.
There’s too many kids in aew that have went through life running their mouth without repercussions.
Punk is in his locker room when the bucks and Omega bust in and he is somehow guilty. Jungle boy takes a shot at punk during the car spot and punk calls him out after... and punk is the bad guy. If these children want to dish it out, they need to learn to take it in return.
And YES, Tony needs to stand up and take control of his business!
Ok OK again who said that he is all at fault he shouldn’t have been fighting he threw the first punch and he’s the one who put hands on Jack Perry he’s the one who talked to Jack Perry again nobody’s saying he’s 100% guilty but the act like this fool has no Fulton it is just laughably stupid
@flyguy7825 some guy kicks your door in... what do you do? I suspect you would defend your home and personal space. As for Perry, I'm not going to say Punk was in the right, but if Tony took control of stuff, these guys wouldn't be acting this way on either side. He is the one losing money every time the 2 sides have this p*ss*ng contest
@@Jody6441 Again your operating under impression that they actually take the doorman and we'll compare. There were reports where they didn't do that!! Lol too many click the stories to say who's in the right or wrong. I think they're all in the wrong!!!
Inmates runnin the asylum. Remove the evps and put professionals in.
From straight edge to straight jerk. Jokes aside, this is SAD. I basically restart watching wrestling because of this guy on his ECW run. I became a fan instantly.
Then all that BS happened last year, with the cringe media scrum and the brawl out. And now I'm done. I can't support him anymore.
I truly wish he takes a long break, relax and work on his mental health and be happy again. This isn't normal behavior, this isn't the behavior of a happy people. It's just sad. I not here to crucify the guy, nobody is perfect, including me. Everyone has a bad day. But this screams unprofessionalism. I hope Tony be professional too and don't give the guy a pass AGAIN.
Why does TK allow wrestlers to use real glass? That is so stupid. He could have gotten really hurt.
Three letters: ECW. All of this has been done before and, with unprotected chair shots or other legit shots to the head being the only exception I can think of, none of it did long-term damage to the workers. They even used glass in the Blood And Guts match not that long ago, and nobody was injured.
Seriously, have you not seen their product there allowed to use bob wire? They're allowed to use cooking sheets. They're allowed to use all sorts of household items and appliances and chairs in hardcore matches, but a guy who wants to use real glass that somehow is a ridiculous stupid thing to say
This story angle about Perry getting injured before All In makes no sense. Why would he get injured before the match? He wouldn’t of been cleared to work. Then what would have been the match after the ROH tag title? You’re only proving how Tony doesn’t know how to book his events. Because CM Punk was the Voice of reason to make Perry wait to work at All In.
Side Note: Miro and Punk knows Bryan is such a Mark, they jokingly acted like they were mad at each other and were going to fight next. When in reality it was to rib this idiot to spread more fake news. Brodie lee, miro and Punk all road to the event together 😂
Half of this was already debunked completely. Why is incorrect information being posted after it has already been refuted?
"A lot of witnesses" but the story constantly changes and is different all the time.
I get there’s a lot of people saying what happened. But please be responsible and take what you hear from this man with a grain of salt.
Joe is a real MVP. Seriously, man
Sure enough. Every time he can bring up punk in a negative light, context or none, he does it.
I guess Phil had a lot more friends in WWE that's why he lasted there longer
As a "crippled-toothed Brit"...
Can we please keep Joe? That Shearer hand-up goal celebration slayed me. Fans loved him. He loved the fans. Honestly, can we start the adoption process already?
Did Jack get any more over from the car spot? No. Combat Zone Tony approved it? Whatever. I’d love a ton of sharp glass in Jack Perry, what does CM Punk care? Sweet of him to care.
What the hell is Bryan talking about the show starting 10 minutes late? They literally did a quick open to the show and within a minute Joe was walking out to the ring. Do you research first before reporting these things.
12:43 such bullshit Bryan
On Mondays Being The Elite it was funny watching them leave the airport in a private hire car especially hearing reports that Punk didn't have a hire car.
Its even funnier when you see who is in charge of transportation and that they have "mini buck" on their twitter profile
@@death-by-egoNo AEW wrestler had a car AEW pays for your hotel and flight transportation is on the wrestler not to mention no one was picked up
@joeyskywalker1322 im sorry. I made the mistake of actually following the details of the story rather than just going by some general statement that you heard somewhere that doesnt apply in this specific case.
This is doing wonders for Jack Perry’s heel turn. No one is saying Jungle Boy. The more you say Jack Perry, the more you think of an a hole.
Punk and perry are natural enemies! Like punk and the elite! Or punk and miro! Or punk and triple h! Or punk and seth rollins! Or punk and roman reigns! Damn cm punk! He ruined cm punk!
Of all this, from the Hangman shoot on Punk in the ring a year and a half ago, to the brawl out between Punk and The Elite, to the shots taken by both non stop over the past year, to this shit last week, Meltzer and Alvarez have never smeared Omega or the Bucks like Punk. It usually has a few bits of both sides, then the narrative is "it's punk". Somehow the Elite or AEW have done nothing wrong really. Odd
Well, who is the common denominator in all of these stories that also has a record of being difficult coworker in other promotions?
If it smells like sh!t everywhere you go… you should probably check your shoes.
@@milk_bath its common denominators here. Every situation involved both Punk yes, but also involved someone from the Elite or one of their close friends.
I like how Bryan tries excuse jungle boy’s actions as well everybody does it”
Cause Perry is a friend of the Elite. We all know how Bryan and Meltzer will die on any hill for those tumbling morons.
Say "use real glass", and the story was also that collison management had asked him first not to do it then turned to CM Punk when Jungle Boy didnt take that advise.
Bryan you need to stop shitting on Punk just because he screwed your girlfriend in the past 😂
Anything from the Perry/Bucks side is hard for me to believe. I'm not Punk's biggest fan, but a midcard guy going in to business for himself on a main event guy is stupid. Perry is a part of the entitlement generation that throws hissy fits when they don't get their way.
What the hell are you on about!? CM Punk does the SAME exact thing.
Bingo! Nailed it.
This is the softest generation ever. We need a war to restore the testosterone in this country. Too many soft, comfortable pussies these days