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This isn’t the way to go if you want a long lasting permanent shower. Flexseal flakes and peels off after regular use, or even very careful use. It’s also highly toxic despite what the commercial says. Short term, yes, but why go through all this trouble for short term. If you want something longer lasting, this ain’t it. Go with the more common materials van builders use to waterproof their showers. There is a reason why Logan is one of the few people with a video on using Flexseal. This is not a good solution. It’s experimental and after trying it myself, really wished I had not wasted the money and time. It will last a year at best, but it’s already getting damaged from regular and very careful use. I’m a full-timer in my van. I’ll have to redo it at some point which is a waste of money and time. Learn from my mistake listening to this “TH-cam Influencer”. Don’t do it!!!
After wear and tear why not just re-coat with 1/3 Quart for $10 and get another year out of it?? True FLEXSEAL has a flash time (toxicity) but after it is set up, it’s not harmful for consumer use. I like to think outside the box and not fall in like with what’s popular. Sometimes that means testing a new theory. That’s why I’m an “Influencer”, a “mechanical engineer”, and an “entrepreneur” with 12, going on 14 van conversions on the road over the past 3 years without any issues w their FLEXSEAL showers….
@@biglogan3690 it flakes off everywhere! Like latex. It’s a horrible idea and it pisses me off that influencers like you try to qualify yourselves without owning mistakes and misinformation. A mechanical engineer has nothing to do with admitting flex seal is a huge mistake for a shower in order to improve your ratings. This product is not safe. If it was not toxic you could use it to store potable drinking water. That is warned against for a good reason. It’s toxic. This product flakes off in bits and pieces everywhere! This means if you have dogs or babies in the van it’s even more dangerous. You’re irresponsible and again, I’m a software engineer and industrial designer that’s as much a qualification as “mechanical engineer” when it comes to the proper use of flex seal. You’re not a chemist and you’re not a materials physicist. So let’s calm down on the qualifying. I’m telling you folks, this guy may have sold a bunch of vans but he has something to sell y’all and I don’t. Buyer beware.
What product do you recommend? Or is there a channel/builder I should check out? tia
When I rebuild I'll probably go with redguard & redguard seam tape over my ply, then when it dries liquid nails with FRP. This solution will eliminate the flexseal peeling off when something rubs against it. FRP seems to be what most people use in vans so I'll go that route next time. I've used redguard with their seam tape before and really like it. It's not good to breath in while drying, but neither is flexseal. You'd still need to wear a mask for protection, but the redguard is waterproof, doesn't peel or come off easily, and you have options of what can go on top of it. You can not adhere anything to flexseal, not even a suction cup. As the top layer, I think the FRP is a better option for folks who live in their van fulltime, or have kids and pets. It's not that much more complicated to go this route. Some vanbuilders skip the Redguard and just put the FRP over their plywood with liquid nails and caulk the seams, but I'm using the redguard for my own peace of mind. I got this idea from these folks who are even more cautious about waterproofing:
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youre gonna find out real soon what a garbage product flex seal is.
Well done and nice idea. For future reference (and for anyone else thinking of doing something similar) the flex seal coats actually bond together much better and create a longer lasting barrier when the second coat is applied before the first coat has completely dried (a very slight tact to the touch is ideal).
Thanks Josh! I would agree as smooth as this dries it would be beneficial to add with some tack...
Homie commented on your reply but didn’t read it…. But you both made a point, haha
Thank you for sharing, I’ll remember that
TACK, not TACT.
Stand up in the shower and see if the floor cracks or the flex seal. Nice work.
second this
Curious if you have posted a one-year update on your flex seal shower pan. Cracks? Leaks? Did it hold up to shakes, bumps and general punishment of the road? Punishment of use? Did it rattle or squeak? What would you do to improve upon it?
Please share an update on the shower pan. This is very innovative and out of the box. Have you used it ? Are you happy with it ? Would you do it again ?
Love that you mitered the shower pan corners to prevent water collecting in edges & corners. Good to know that the Flex seal is goopy & uneven - but it looks nice after the 2nd coat.
Hey man great job on this shower pan. Phenomenal idea using flex seal. I’ll need to try that myself later on good job man
Huge fan bro!! Thanks! It has such a durable finish...
Used for my rv shower pan but the pan didn't have enough support so it cracked. The off gassing was horrible for about 2 days (think burning rubber). The coating is also slick so you can slip.
@@sarahlockwood8133 you could try using grip spray paint over the top to reduce slipping
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@@sarahlockwood8133add a few rubber ducky grips and boom. Bobs your uncle mate.
Very interesting! Love the idea. I would be very interested in the long term quality of this method. Thanks for sharing! Seems like a great application for vans/RV!
Looks great. Nice to see an easy diy shower pan option work out
well without looking so diy.
Hello logan, happy new year, big hello from Ireland, thanks for all the great big ideas, just after finishing my work bench in my garage, 35 ft in length and have followed all your video ideas on making it, great to see you have ventured into the camper van as its my next project, onwards and upwards
You just saved me a ton of stress and hair loss from major head scratching. The tiny shower I have in mind for my 10x6’ canned ham camper has been such a major ‘gottahave’, as I will be living in it full time while I save for a van and build. I’m not saying this is going to be easy to complete, and as professional looking and amazing as yours, but at least I’m not afraid of trying now. Thanks for all the step by step information! Once completed, I’ll post video and give you credit! Happy 2021! 🙏🏽✌🏽💖
Thanks Bellz! Good luck
Love this idea and you saved quite a bit by not having to buy the shower pan and super impressed how nice this looks. Adding this to my idea list :)
This was great!! I've seen quite a few fiberglass campers without a shower. This inspires me.
What a smart idea using flex shield. This stuff is great for almost everything. Enjoyed your video. 👍👍👍
Simply brilliant! Love you built your own shower pan with wood and flex seal. Awesome idea
Fascinating, I don’t know if probably want to try a Schluter product first just because I’d hope that thin plywood would hold up long term under weight of water however it’s a neat alternative, inexpensive and so happy you could fit the plumbing below the flooring. I just watched a guy (he’s a highly skilled woodworker/craftsman totally bomb on his shower plumbing by installing it above the floor which means his head is an inch from hitting the ceiling so I’m glad you have room, everything’s concealed and I hope this lasts a very long time
That's a nice job. I would have never thought to use flex seal for that. Great idea.
Thank you for this video!!! I’ve been slightly panicking about putting a shower in and this solves so many problems I was worried about!
Nice job big Logan! Always killing it with the DIY projects brother! Can wait for our van build on our channel to get the this point 🔥
Man I really like how you explain it and then you go fast forward great job I just subscribed probably one of my favorite van TH-cam's out there
Thanks Frank! Glad you enjoyed! I'm uploading the final build series episode this week! Thanks for subscribing! Lots of fun DIY goodness to come on the BLC!
Nice job the shower looks very professional! I thought it was a factory made unit when I saw the intro!
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Thanks Dan!
FANTASTIC! I HAVE SKETCHED ALMOST THIS EXACT TYPE OF THING BEFORE. IT JUST MAKES SENSE, ONLY I LEFT IT TO DRAIN OUT UNDER THE RIG INTO A JUG OR TO THE GROUND IF YOU ARE USING BIODEGRADABLE SOAP AND IN AN AREA WHERE ITS NOT FROWNED UPON.
Great video BigL! Great idea with the Flex Seal!
Awesome intro, channel & content! Will watch again! 👍
I like the concepts you've Illustrated in building your own pan. If I may make a couple of suggestions. Instead of using the quarter inch Lauan you could use FRP. Also instead of using the Alex caulk you could go to a quad elastomeric caulk instead for a long-term flexible seal and a moving vehicle where vibration can be a serious issue. But once again great job on your project. I especially like the beep your plumbing parts underneath.
My goodness, where have you been all these months !!!! Thank you SO SO SO SO SO SO SO MUCH for sharing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank u so much for this video. I'm redoing my whole bathroom in my rv like this. It's an overhaul cause I hate it rn & it's currently nonfunctional. U have a great idea for me to use.
Wow, you made an awesome job. I love it,I'll try it on my RV shower restoration. Thank you so much for sharing this!!🤩
Just doing my motorhome. I picked up a shower base as a second, had a chip on the outside front, right where I am putting a wall section. 1200 x 900 for $50. I'm cutting a door to fit the portapotti so I can mount the loo on tracks so it can roll away when I have a shower, keep the TP dry, and enough space not to trip over. Thinking about putting a skylight in and having growbags on the back wall for some fresh veges.
Sure glad you did this. I have been using the Durastall-Mustee. I was thinking of exactly what you accomplished. I like your build better because my thoughts were to use the sticky tape in the joints and then paint over. My minds eye dais that it would not look good. You proved that!
👏👏👏 well done brother... freakin brilliant.. I drooled a lil on that one.. makes complete sense using flex seal.. gonna be incorporating this idea into my pop up renovations I'm doing this summer. Thanx for sharing.
Thanks @Tems Sky! Goodluck!
This is genius! I’m planning on doing something similar in my truck topper camper build!
Thank you. I didn't even think of that. Awesome! Great work.
Big Logan,you the man,you seem to have a very beautiful spirit,I love the way you explain everything, you rock 😎
Awesome idea, turned out really nice. I’m interested to see how it holds up over time. Worst case can just add another coat if needed. I used flex seal for my maxxair fan install and it did the trick, has started peeling a little in a few places but it’s out exposed to the elements 24/7.
Try Durabak paint. It is a polyurethane that holds up to UV well. Hard as a rock and can also coat EPDM or TPO rubber roofs. Bonds to everything.
@@mjremy2605I actually used durabak on the floor of my van under the insulation.
Such a great experiment! Loved the video!
Cool, i like that idea/setup. I was gonna do something more ghetto, like a 2x2 grow tray. But might just a route similar to this.
You stole my idea!!😂 I have watched so many videos on how folks did their showers and this idea kept popping up in my head....great job! Thanks for testing it out. 👍🏼 Happy travels!!! 🤓😊
Very nicely done! If you could master laminating fiberglass, such as 1708 on balsa plywood, that would’ve been bulletproof. Also incredibly light. Nicely done.
I have seen owner fabricated shower trays to fit specific spaces, all of which were created using wood/plywood and thickened fibreglass epoxy fillets on each corner, followed by epoxy impregnated fibreglass sheets to finish.
Yours is the first build I have seen using tri-sided fillet pieces in the corners and shaped plywood to guide water out and the entire tray sealed with Flex-Seal, all of which I thought was an excellent solution.
You have good presentation, narration and lighting, great videography and editing and a well considered and balanced soundtrack.
I particularly like your meticulous and precise high standards of workmanship.
Your enthusiasm and engaging character shine through and I am happy to subscribe to and support your channel.
Thank you so much Felix Cat!! Take Care and thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing.
Keep up the good work.
Greetings from France.
Love the flex seal idea!
Great job. Loved how you sloped the pan. I build a wooden shower pan as well, sanded the crap out of mine to get a slope lol, but I didn’t use flex seal. Didn’t like the way it cures. After it cures, you can dig your finger nail in that stuff and create cracks in your rubber. I used polyurethane (boat paint), cures hard and hard to break. Also thought about using epoxy resin, but polyurethane melts at a much higher temp. Was worried about the hot water in the tub. You did a great job! Shower pan looks great!
Which Poly paint did you use?
Awesome. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you 😊
Glad it was helpful!
your energy is great man, keep up the killer work. earned my sub.
Man!! Its a really good and nice job👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. I am working on a mobile shower in wood and kind of flex coating.
Great vid !! Love that idea for a shower pan ! Keep up the good work.
Thank you! Will do!
Nice job!!!! I love the half shower, so much more than the full shower!
It is a creative way to make the most use of the available real estate.
Making a test patch to test for dryness in the actual product is really smart.
Great idea especially when every inch of space is crucial.
Haha! That surprised, but not really surprised, " I guess it works!" at the end. We've all been there.
I am on to my forth shower build and have used fiberglass cloth and white gell coat the oldest is 15 years old and leak proof and still looking good.
It adds strength the whole thing can be done in a day and extra layers reinforces the floor and corners for the corners I use stiff card for a nice smooth radius that drains well and is easy to clean.
That’s really nice!
If the water pressure can be kept in check, we can even create a warm bath tub on a van. A great steamer and warm bath tub on a remote mountain where every where else is covered in snow. Great way to spend a winter
Awesome idea and build! Thanks for sharing, not going to lie...gonna borrow that one for my trailer.
I love your energy! I needed to see this thank you
Ficou muito bom, vou fazer exatamente igual no meu motorhome....
E mais uma coisa... Adorei os bonés que vc usou durante o vídeo.
Such a great idea! Thank you for sharing.
Great idea to put a shower in your build. It adds a huge step up in livability. Just a few thoughts , A boat through hull fitting might work better. They are engineered to provide good clamping compression in an application similar to yours. Did you compare the flex seal to aquarium paint? Does the Flex seal exhibit any long term migration of water through the paint? An Epoxy resin coating on all sides would provide an inexpensive seal against unwanted moisture intrusion from condensation etc. I believe you will have long term issues with your sub floor due to water intrusion I learned the hard way from years of boat building.
I now have an easy fix to a cracked shower pan in my rv. Flex seal the entire shower pan plus the walls for continuity. Thanks!
Yes Beverly Good Luck
Beautiful work brother...just starting a complete caravan reno........wasnt going to put a bathroom and toilet in but definitely going to now. Peace from Melbourne Australia
Perfect! On my to do list
I'm now ready to get this caulk in. Awesome video
Time to Caulk!!
Very creative way to make a water tight shower pan. Pan and finish all in one.
Thanks Ajourney!
Duuuude that looks awesome. Good job brotha!
Nice work man, love shower idea. I keep watching your video.
That was awesome! What a great idea. Definitely will try and donthis in my rv reno. Want to do a complete shower pan in the bathroom that surrounds the toilet. Thank again for the idea of using flexi seal
Yeah it's a great idea and especially in tight places because building one from plywood saves a lot of space as opposed to the thicker plastic and fiberglass pieces. Please post a video of yours as well I love this.
I will be trying this. This is amazing.
Also maybe a handful of sand in the flex seal would give it texture?
If the flex seal doesn't hold, try using RV self leveling roof coating.
It's liquid rubber and dries as rubber and bits white and reflects heat.
Creative use of Flexseal. If you are open to a suggestion I would put a couple of layers under the drain and down the hole then reinstall the drain. The hole will now be lined so any leakage will flow down and out of the van instead of spreading across the under flooring.
that sounds like a pretty important deail
Very impressive... A true craftsman!
Thanks Rob!
Great idea, probably will do this for my off grid bunkie.
AMAZING!!!
Love your spirit bro!!! Killer idea. And for @dualex to holla, he's another one I watch. Got a new sub here. Will be looking for more ideas that I'll use in my build soon, trying to do one later this year.
Wow, game changer baby. Thumbs up from across the pond. Nice work fella :)
I'm to see this video, I had been wondering if flex seal was usable for showers & you proved it! Great job!!!
lol By pouring two gallons of water in it? lmao
@@the_original_skytiger I share your skepticism. I think it's a fantastic idea and it came out nice. BUT, driving puts all kinds of torque on things, and he also looks like a big dude, so wondering how things have held up with cracking and the trim n stuff. Curious because I want to try the same thing in our van build
This is brilliant!
Seen a guy use this, Flex Seal, on back cargo area of his Stow 'N Go minivan. I had forgotten about it, and settled for a 36x24" shower pan when I couldn't find a "budget friendly" 24x24" one for my shed to home project. What's up with TH-cam? I've been watching #vanlife for years and finally got your feed. Glad I found you. Subscribed!
Good stuff. The thing most folks forget for a shower tray outlet is that when you shower in the van, you're never level, so the water will run where it wants to run, no matter where you have the drain. :)
Definitely NEVER level, unless in Walmart parking lot! LOL
Agreed, but maybe it would be pretty easy to carry a squeegee that you could use to get the rest of the water out. This is definitely an upgrade for mine in my cargo trailer conversion. I have a shower curtain that has a heavy Walmart tarp coming from it. I drape it over the toilet, sit on the toilet and the tarp, and pour warm water over me. With a shower curtain, it sounds like he has a pretty good system. I hope that he will post follow-up videos on this.
Let me tell you flex all that product is excellent I used it to rebuild the heels on my boots instead of paying $45 of the shoe store
How is it holding up so far? Would you still recommend this setup?
No frikin answer. Thanks. Time to unsubscribe
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Amazing job ! Smart and talented!
You can do this as a side buisiness! So beautiful!
Thanks So much! I just may!
Wow! Great idea!
That was Awesome ! Thank you !
Love it!!!!!
This is extremely helpful 👏 thank you, great content awesome biuld.
Yaaay! I love it! 😍
Hey I know I’m late on commenting but I was hoping for a quick update on how the shower was holding up now. I really think this is a good idea to use on my build
Funny we are doing the same kind of shower. Glad I'm watch you make great content as well. Keep up the good work. I'm excited to see this flex seal work over time.
HUGE Fan of your channel guys!!! It turned out rubbery and really strong. 2 liberal coats and it is bonded and tough! Maybe we can meet up one day for a van tour!
@@biglogan3690 We'll that makes us excited lol. Heck yea we are down to hang out for sure and get that van tour lol. Where is your home base and when are you looking at being on the road? Dm us on Instagram it will be a bit easier to talk.
@@biglogan3690 We'll that makes us excited lol. Heck yea we are down to hang out for sure and get that van tour lol. Where is your home base and when are you looking at being on the road? Dm us on Instagram it will be a bit easier to talk.
@@FnAVanLife Sounds good guys thanks! I'm on the East Coast but will be transitioning this Winter. More future builds to come too!
@@biglogan3690 heck yea man. Lets keep in touch and we will make it happen.
Really interested to know how that product holds up over time.... If i could suggest something, when i saw you cut the laminate floor around the drain, i saw you use a circular saw, and then chisel the corners, a multitool/osclilating saw would be a very useful tool in your arsenal, i use mine probably 4 to 5 times a week at work for the most random of things and they work amazing. I use it for everything from sanding to cutting to scraping/chiseling.
Thanks David! I got a leftover floor model oscillator at Lowe’s not long after the video! They are great and yes, use it so often... take care
Duuuude good job helped me out with my tub problem.
Rock on!
Looks awesome. Great idea. And to think I fibreglassed my project. ;)
Amazing work! How is the flex seal holding up so far? any issues with mold or condensation?
Verry well made videos. Love the
build
Excellent!
Very creative!
Hey Big Logan, I like how you did that, only flaw I see is that it would have been better to use a bearing bit on a router to step down the drain, apply the flex seal then the drain pipe so the gasket is pushing down on the flex seal not butting up to it, eventually that will pull away a bit and water will get between the pipe and flex seal.
Looking like you are going to have a really nice van on your hands there!
So educational ✌️
Thanks a lot
Working on ideas for a shower in my shuttle bus conversion, and came across this great video. I love your design!
I also noticed this was 2 years ago. How has it held up?
I could find a bathtub small enough to fit in my van so i'm gonna have to build it and this helps a lot. Thank you!
Good luck Monica!
Awesome job.