This is the best talk and debate from All-In Podcast ever. Not only top discussion among All-In Summit 2023, but all-in podcast ever. This should be re-watched 10years 20years down the road. TH-cam please back-up this video in many formats in different locations so that our kids and grand-kids can watch this.
It's not a debate. There's nobody there intellectually equipped enough or even ideologically opposed enough to challenge the guests views. Your definition of debate needs to be relooked at.
This is such a civilized, intelligent, nuanced, context based discussion on US China relations and beyond and the world need more of it. Thanks to the guest and All-In besties. Whether or not people agree with the opinion, you are doing this humanity a great service.
What a fantastic discussion. It's a breathe of fresh air listening to Graham instead of others who constantly encouraging wars around the world. Thank you.
AT 83, Allison is still so sharp. He is able to keep 2 or 3 questions is his brain while answering them. Unreal. And he shows how little the moderators know about geopolitics. The moderators are into the flavor of the week geopolitics.
Another wonderful conversation. Mr. Allison is correct. It is better to find ways to cooperate than to find reasons to compete. Competition creates conflict. Cooperation creates commonality. Having an incentive to not kill each other is something I can support! Thank you for this interesting summit. I am enjoying it very much.
That was incredible, us young ambitious folks ready to tear down walls and change things up need to appreciate and digest wisdom of those with deeper perspective.
I’m grateful that these conversations are happening. I’m heartened to see Americans reflecting on their actions globally.Though not perfect, America is amazing. I remember my English grandfather often telling me as a child how wonderful American soldiers were in WW2, how brave, generous and kind they were. Thank you from my family to yours . ❤
"The world's greatest moderator" may need to take someones masterclass on ending the question with the question. These legends can add navigating these "two-part questions" to their resume.
wow, what a knowledgeable guest, Great Great summit, thanks for sharing its give the average person a lot of insight that we wouldn't have privilege to.
Both men are intelligent realist but they are too patriotic or fearful of consequences to lay bare the truth. In the last question, Alison quietly said the US will lose a war with China. He remain silent about supporting Taiwan. He talked about hope when asked about America's future. Sometime you have to listen for what is intentionally not said.
@@olderchin1558very true and underrated comment. Allison completely avoided giving details about the military-industrial complex and the revolving doors in Washington.
The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance. It's obvious we are headed for hyperinflation,it is always the poor who take the hit.
A Promise to myself. I will not just meet the besties, we will exchange words that I’m most certain will impact my financial perspective and change my families lives forever. 🤙🏽
Great interview. Guys his age with his world view celebrate the fact that there has not been a 3rd world war which would have destroyed most of humanity. His generation is comfortable admitting mistakes are made, regional wars are fought, military industrial complex squanders $ on the way there.....our generation wants to end endless middle east wars and the old guard is happy Los Angeles is a pile of smoldering radioactive glass.... Enjoyed it!
Excellent speakers so far, thanks for sharing the content. Graham’s book is arguably THE MOST IMPORTANT BOOK in our lifetime, if you haven’t read it, do it now !
What he misses is that the global economy is far more interconnected today than during previous world wars. The US and China are far more dependent on one another. I also agree w Chamath that the pending age of abundance eliminates the need for resource wars and hopefully we can eventually rid ourselves of the military industrial complex this century
Hmm !! But again you are assuming too much . War can be fought on some rational calculations but sometimes mistakes can too lead to slippery slope. So Chamath point on we not going to war because of resource abundance is true but too myopic. War can be fought on irrational basis or saving face or not to be seen as weak etc etc . We can only be sure of no war happening in future if we can change the collective consciousness of humans as a race !! But again nobody knows how it can be done .
@@harshitsingh1600 yea that's why I said resource wars. Religious and territorial wars may still be a thing for a long time unfortunately. Overall there should be less war though
I think you have not been paying attention to current events. The US is driving the decoupling of western economies from China. Both economic and technological dependencies are breaking. China is responding by decoupling as well. This is a fact, it does not matter who started it first or who is to blame. The reality is the lush green forest of growth that both sides enjoyed has slowly dried up leaving behind an environment that will easily catch fire from any sparks like Taiwan, Philippines or Korea issues. And the goodwill the US enjoyed with the world is no more, it is now seen as a bully than a benefactor by more than 100 countries who prefers to passively support Russia and China. The world is bifurcating into 2 spheres of influence, the US lead domineering western order and the liberal non-aligned countries gravitating around China through the BRI and BRICS. The dedollarisation movement is the result.
0:31: 🎙 Graham Allison is a renowned analyst of U.S national security and defense policy, with expertise in nuclear weapons and terrorism. 4:41: ✨ The US has managed to avoid major wars for the past 78 years, but history shows that confrontations with rising powers often lead to conflict. 9:10: 💡 The video discusses the shifting power dynamics between China and the US, with China's GDP potentially surpassing the US. 13:02: 🌍 China's aspiration is to return to its historical position as the center of the universe and regain its power and dominance. 17:36: 🇮🇳 India's rise as a rival to China is uncertain due to internal problems and historical subjugation. 21:39: 🗽 The key to governing a society is the freedom and liberty of its people, which leads to innovation and invention. 26:02: 🌍 The video discusses the concept of sphere of influence and the importance of alliances in international relations. 30:49: 🔒 The speaker discusses the effectiveness of the US counterterrorism program and criticizes the US foreign policy decisions made after 9/11. 34:56: 🔐 The speaker discusses the importance of security in geopolitics and the complexities of the military industrial complex. Recap by Tammy AI
His answer to Chamath's question about China's admission to the WTO strikes me as disingenuous. There were many, many people at the time who were vocal about not allowing China to be a part of the WTO because of a plethora of reasons, one of which was their potential as an economic competitor. To say this thinking was "unimaginable" either demonstrates that the establishment was blind, or he's taking that position to cover their rear ends.
The world is big enough to accomodate two powerful countries. If it is more to loss than it is to gain by having a hot war, would the politicians be smart enough to manage the conflict?
It's appalling that he can simply call the Iraq war or occupying Afghanistan as a" MISTAKE ". People who pay lip service to “we can and should criticize America too” and then proceed to treat every wrong America does as “we made a mistake” and every wrong China does as “they’re coming for all of us” are engaging in sinophobia while maintaining fig leaf veneer of decency. While the US is literally encircling China with military bases and aircraft carriers, and then insist *their* suspicions are reasonable but Chinese suspicions are just paranoid fantasies, all those people are in fanning or engaging in or embodying Sinophobia. Because ultimately what Sinophobia, phobia of any “other”really is, is a belief that “your” faults are redeemable, but “their” faults reflect some kind of fundamental perversion or malignancy, so you can treat yours in good faith, but the “other” deserves immovable bad faith.
kevin rudd (former Australian PM) who is china expert wrote similar book a couple years ago. It's less of a history book and focuses solely on the US and China modern relations and what motivates each of them
There is no discrimination of how Muslims are treated in India, they get the same benefits what the majority gets. I would ask Graham Allinson to Visit India and see it first hand. I am confident we will build a strong nation by taking along all sections of the society.
One of the biggest problems with geopolitics is the use of MSM which more often than not ends up stoking war and supporting the military industrial complex. Even if you look back at WW1 and 2, MSM was used largely to stoke war rather than prevent war as the likely outcome. The world working together for mutual benefit with the aim of making the world a better place for all needs to be the goal, not war. This ethos needs to be echoed in MSM.
It’s time for US & China to have a mirror moment (perhaps some time in & acknowledging as part of nature) and OWN that we can all do better. We are better then this. It makes me crazy that in 2023 we can ensure pure water, rich soil and unadulterated produce for all living beings.
Interesting take in India and modhi in light of murder of Canadian citizen in Surrey recently and suspicion of official Indian government involvement. India has massive potential, so much corruption though has limited its growth
@@eden5260 He basically vomited the mainstream narrative that muslims are not safe in India, that India is an autocratic democracy, and that Modi is some right-wing hardliner.
@@mksingh79 I am quite sure he meant 20% population that is Muslim makes for social instabilities Not because they are Muslim but because the instability is a fact. China for example doesn't have that instebility. Btw china has Muslims too
@@eden5260 watch it again. He said 20% is Muslim minority which Modi is suppressing because he has the support of the majority which is absolutely false and as I said earlier a very convenient msm narrative.
I just watched the Gwyneth Paltrow conversation before this one and that was so boring. They should have cut her and given Graham Allison another 1/2 hour. Best of all the guests!
Sachs looks like he wrote the Declaration of Independence
Ayo
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
When youth and immaturity join and speak they’re so predictable. 😏
A true scholar!
These talks are a luxury. Thanks for sharing.
Aren't they? What a public service. 👏👏👏 to these guys.
Wow, Graham Allison is an absolute gift. He has so much knowledge and speaks so clearly.
I wish Graham had a 20 part documentary/podcast on all the stuff he has seen and his opinions on today. This talk was awesome, I wish it was longer!
He has several books explaining them. Don’t need a podcast
A very intelligent, thoughtful, articulate and reasonable presenter.
Bring Graham on the pod every couple of months. Would be amazing.
This is the best talk and debate from All-In Podcast ever. Not only top discussion among All-In Summit 2023, but all-in podcast ever. This should be re-watched 10years 20years down the road. TH-cam please back-up this video in many formats in different locations so that our kids and grand-kids can watch this.
It's not a debate. There's nobody there intellectually equipped enough or even ideologically opposed enough to challenge the guests views.
Your definition of debate needs to be relooked at.
youtube here, sounds good captain
This is such a civilized, intelligent, nuanced, context based discussion on US China relations and beyond and the world need more of it. Thanks to the guest and All-In besties. Whether or not people agree with the opinion, you are doing this humanity a great service.
What a fantastic discussion. It's a breathe of fresh air listening to Graham instead of others who constantly encouraging wars around the world. Thank you.
AT 83, Allison is still so sharp. He is able to keep 2 or 3 questions is his brain while answering them. Unreal. And he shows how little the moderators know about geopolitics. The moderators are into the flavor of the week geopolitics.
he almost too intelligent to even communicate with these idiots.
I could listen to this guy for hours. Very interesting, and great questions to hear his responses
Another wonderful conversation. Mr. Allison is correct. It is better to find ways to cooperate than to find reasons to compete. Competition creates conflict. Cooperation creates commonality. Having an incentive to not kill each other is something I can support! Thank you for this interesting summit. I am enjoying it very much.
the intellectual prowess at age of 83... I'm speechless. Great points made. Thank you !
That was incredible, us young ambitious folks ready to tear down walls and change things up need to appreciate and digest wisdom of those with deeper perspective.
I love this podcast, I don’t miss one, lots of good information, knowledge and inspiration. Hope to 👂 you guys for many years. Keep up with good vibes
This should've been a longer interview for a very important topic and such a knowledgeable guest
"Our foreign policy establishment only has one gear which is forward and double down."
I would greatly appreciate it and so would the rest of the world
I’m grateful that these conversations are happening. I’m heartened to see Americans reflecting on their actions globally.Though not perfect, America is amazing. I remember my English grandfather often telling me as a child how wonderful American soldiers were in WW2, how brave, generous and kind they were. Thank you from my family to yours . ❤
Guys guys...these interviews have all been top 10.
But too too short. Please bring them all-black!!
Amazing!!
"The world's greatest moderator" may need to take someones masterclass on ending the question with the question. These legends can add navigating these "two-part questions" to their resume.
Jcal asks the most midwit housewife questions lmfao
wow, what a knowledgeable guest, Great Great summit, thanks for sharing its give the average person a lot of insight that we wouldn't have privilege to.
Allison and Dalio are men of history. Allison is saying things we don’t like hear, but it’s likely to turn out to be true.
Both men are intelligent realist but they are too patriotic or fearful of consequences to lay bare the truth.
In the last question, Alison quietly said the US will lose a war with China. He remain silent about supporting Taiwan. He talked about hope when asked about America's future.
Sometime you have to listen for what is intentionally not said.
@@olderchin1558the commies have home court advantage and our supply chains will be stretched. OFC they will win.
@@olderchin1558very true and underrated comment.
Allison completely avoided giving details about the military-industrial complex and the revolving doors in Washington.
You are the best, guys. Thanks for such free content and inspirational guests. Greetings from Peru
Thank you for fixing the intro/outro volume!
He dodged the hell out of the question about the intelligence agencies and the military industrial complex
It's complicated
it is scary to be against the military-industrial complex as JFK found out
Excellent wisdom-invoked and thoughtful discussion. Love the assignment!
No need to agree with Graham Allison to appreciate this discussion. He's worth listening to.
This might be the most important conference ever produced.
Thanks for Graham and the Pod for this talk.
The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance. It's obvious we are headed for hyperinflation,it is always the poor who take the hit.
incredible wisdom. and no wonder... Lee Kuan Yew influenced... Jason would not understand that.
it's amazing. it's probably 3 words that matters the most in the context of this subject
The more JayCal says "wow absolutely fantastic" the more I think us plebs not at the summit didn't miss out all that much
Amazing presentation by Graham Allison
David Sacks hits the nail on the head again re 9/11......
A brilliant and excellent conversation. Thank you!
Wow! His brilliance shone through.
A Promise to myself. I will not just meet the besties, we will exchange words that I’m most certain will impact my financial perspective and change my families lives forever. 🤙🏽
Chamarth has the best points and outlook for a more harmonious world economics on every podcast. Thank you Chamath 🇺🇲
Great conversation. Love graham's book
I wish this one has been twice as long on the allotted time
Fantastic speech!
Great interview. Guys his age with his world view celebrate the fact that there has not been a 3rd world war which would have destroyed most of humanity. His generation is comfortable admitting mistakes are made, regional wars are fought, military industrial complex squanders $ on the way there.....our generation wants to end endless middle east wars and the old guard is happy Los Angeles is a pile of smoldering radioactive glass....
Enjoyed it!
chammath is so good at connecting with people on an a personal level
Only the elites not the mids
Should have more extended conversation.
wow...just WOW what a gathering of minds you guys managed to bring
Excellent speakers so far, thanks for sharing the content. Graham’s book is arguably THE MOST IMPORTANT BOOK in our lifetime, if you haven’t read it, do it now !
Amazing talk! Did not expect I would like it so much going in!
The speakers this Summit are so interesting
What a refreshing ending
What he misses is that the global economy is far more interconnected today than during previous world wars. The US and China are far more dependent on one another. I also agree w Chamath that the pending age of abundance eliminates the need for resource wars and hopefully we can eventually rid ourselves of the military industrial complex this century
Hmm !! But again you are assuming too much . War can be fought on some rational calculations but sometimes mistakes can too lead to slippery slope. So Chamath point on we not going to war because of resource abundance is true but too myopic. War can be fought on irrational basis or saving face or not to be seen as weak etc etc . We can only be sure of no war happening in future if we can change the collective consciousness of humans as a race !! But again nobody knows how it can be done .
@@harshitsingh1600 yea that's why I said resource wars. Religious and territorial wars may still be a thing for a long time unfortunately. Overall there should be less war though
I think you have not been paying attention to current events. The US is driving the decoupling of western economies from China. Both economic and technological dependencies are breaking. China is responding by decoupling as well. This is a fact, it does not matter who started it first or who is to blame.
The reality is the lush green forest of growth that both sides enjoyed has slowly dried up leaving behind an environment that will easily catch fire from any sparks like Taiwan, Philippines or Korea issues.
And the goodwill the US enjoyed with the world is no more, it is now seen as a bully than a benefactor by more than 100 countries who prefers to passively support Russia and China. The world is bifurcating into 2 spheres of influence, the US lead domineering western order and the liberal non-aligned countries gravitating around China through the BRI and BRICS. The dedollarisation movement is the result.
Another great one!
Wow! What an insightful interview 💪
Legendary. ⚔️ 💯
Intriguing discussion with Graham Allison. Who votes for a follow-up session in the All-In Podcast in the future?😊
Who cares about Gwinnnie, was waiting for Prof Allison forever !
Cannot even begin to have this discussion without discussing the Jewish question and the Kagan family et al.
Brilliant man
Thankful.
Amazing guest
That was a good one folks!
America has many great thinkers. It puzzle me why none of them is in Washington.
GOD IS EVERYTHING ❤
Anyone: words
Jcal: WOW!!!
China wants to be respected as China.
whats wrong with that ???
Why no John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt?
Let's listen guys
Jason: world's best moderator, world's worst question asker
a true gentleman!
All In Summit has become better than Ted Talk Summit.
Strategic Imagination.
0:31: 🎙 Graham Allison is a renowned analyst of U.S national security and defense policy, with expertise in nuclear weapons and terrorism.
4:41: ✨ The US has managed to avoid major wars for the past 78 years, but history shows that confrontations with rising powers often lead to conflict.
9:10: 💡 The video discusses the shifting power dynamics between China and the US, with China's GDP potentially surpassing the US.
13:02: 🌍 China's aspiration is to return to its historical position as the center of the universe and regain its power and dominance.
17:36: 🇮🇳 India's rise as a rival to China is uncertain due to internal problems and historical subjugation.
21:39: 🗽 The key to governing a society is the freedom and liberty of its people, which leads to innovation and invention.
26:02: 🌍 The video discusses the concept of sphere of influence and the importance of alliances in international relations.
30:49: 🔒 The speaker discusses the effectiveness of the US counterterrorism program and criticizes the US foreign policy decisions made after 9/11.
34:56: 🔐 The speaker discusses the importance of security in geopolitics and the complexities of the military industrial complex.
Recap by Tammy AI
His answer to Chamath's question about China's admission to the WTO strikes me as disingenuous. There were many, many people at the time who were vocal about not allowing China to be a part of the WTO because of a plethora of reasons, one of which was their potential as an economic competitor. To say this thinking was "unimaginable" either demonstrates that the establishment was blind, or he's taking that position to cover their rear ends.
Brilliant
The world is big enough to accomodate two powerful countries. If it is more to loss than it is to gain by having a hot war, would the politicians be smart enough to manage the conflict?
guys.... bravo
It's appalling that he can simply call the Iraq war or occupying Afghanistan as a" MISTAKE ".
People who pay lip service to “we can and should criticize America too” and then proceed to treat every wrong America does as “we made a mistake” and every wrong China does as “they’re coming for all of us” are engaging in sinophobia while maintaining fig leaf veneer of decency.
While the US is literally encircling China with military bases and aircraft carriers, and then insist *their* suspicions are reasonable but Chinese suspicions are just paranoid fantasies, all those people are in fanning or engaging in or embodying Sinophobia. Because ultimately what Sinophobia, phobia of any “other”really is, is a belief that “your” faults are redeemable, but “their” faults reflect some kind of fundamental perversion or malignancy, so you can treat yours in good faith, but the “other” deserves immovable bad faith.
kevin rudd (former Australian PM) who is china expert wrote similar book a couple years ago. It's less of a history book and focuses solely on the US and China modern relations and what motivates each of them
There is no discrimination of how Muslims are treated in India, they get the same benefits what the majority gets. I would ask Graham Allinson to Visit India and see it first hand. I am confident we will build a strong nation by taking along all sections of the society.
One of the biggest problems with geopolitics is the use of MSM which more often than not ends up stoking war and supporting the military industrial complex. Even if you look back at WW1 and 2, MSM was used largely to stoke war rather than prevent war as the likely outcome. The world working together for mutual benefit with the aim of making the world a better place for all needs to be the goal, not war. This ethos needs to be echoed in MSM.
Who made the all in song?
Deng Xiaoping famously said "It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice."
JCal shouldn't be allowed to ask questions, wasting all of our time
His Indian expertise comes from Whatsapp University
Chamath with the e/acc @ 14:00 👏
It’s time for US & China to have a mirror moment (perhaps some time in & acknowledging as part of nature) and OWN that we can all do better. We are better then this. It makes me crazy that in 2023 we can ensure pure water, rich soil and unadulterated produce for all living beings.
National treasure
Interesting take in India and modhi in light of murder of Canadian citizen in Surrey recently and suspicion of official Indian government involvement. India has massive potential, so much corruption though has limited its growth
Wow! It just amazes me how far from the truth he is on India. I cannot help but laugh 😂.
In what sense, he didn't say that much
what living in western bubble does to a mf. even if we go by his words, India is 80% democracy and USA is only 50%
@@eden5260 He basically vomited the mainstream narrative that muslims are not safe in India, that India is an autocratic democracy, and that Modi is some right-wing hardliner.
@@mksingh79 I am quite sure he meant 20% population that is Muslim makes for social instabilities
Not because they are Muslim but because the instability is a fact. China for example doesn't have that instebility.
Btw china has Muslims too
@@eden5260 watch it again. He said 20% is Muslim minority which Modi is suppressing because he has the support of the majority which is absolutely false and as I said earlier a very convenient msm narrative.
You could tell Chamoth didn’t like that speaker.
if India is 80% democracy than america is 50% democracy
Why am I so frustrated/only able to focus on the people who tried to start a slow clap every other sentence? 😂
Jason thinks everyone is called Wow!
I just watched the Gwyneth Paltrow conversation before this one and that was so boring. They should have cut her and given Graham Allison another 1/2 hour. Best of all the guests!
33:15 best question.
Graham did it in the ultraboosts
It escalated with tariffs and the influence of the US with Hong Kong protests prepandemic.
I mean, it STARTED with tea and opium in the 1700s.
Im pissed that my brain cells never reached the elevation of these men.
😮
realmente bueno, pero falta un poco de reflexión sobre la geopolítica del cambio climático, me interesaría haber oido su opinión