Republic Commando is an open reminder that the Clone Wars were a very brutal conflict and that the clones were very much designed to fight against such a very horrible conflict.
I remember that final scene very vividly. Echoing in the back of my mind at that moment were words from the Star Wars Battlefront II (2005) campaign: “We left as heroes. Years later, we’d return as conquerors.”
@@rienstien1same. Even when we didn’t have online play, my brothers and I would have so much fun on those games replaying the campaigns and playing the multiplayer. It’s sad they don’t make games with 3-4 person split screen anymore.
I remember during Luke’s training. Obi-Wan said to him: Your eyes can deceive you; don’t trust them. The artistic license you pointed out brings that line to a whole other level. In all other star wars media, we mostly see things at a third-person perspective. We shown things exactly the way they are. Republic Commando exclusively shows you Boss’ perception of his surroundings. And it’s slightly distorted. He can tell his brothers apart, you can hear that.
Clones having different voices is a detail I would have kept, even if it didn't make much sense. It gave each one their own personality, and made them more unique
This game was such a beautiful gut punch. We thought we were heroes, we thought we were unique, we thought we were invincible when united. But we were wrong. This really is the darkest Star Wars game to date. Shame the Imperial Commando sequal got canceled and now we'll never get a conclusion to Delta Squad's story.
@@moderndemon84 It was the Trandoshan slavers that, apparently, got to him. And he was the first to man the Wookie turret, which meant he was the farthest from the rest of the squad; one of the major factors in his 'elmination'... Nah, _blast_ that... _I_ believe he's just M.I.A. Vode an. 🫡
@@vee-bee-athe plans for games and sequel novels were that he would escape and help found the rebellion, and eventually the rest of Delta would join him.
Part of why I'm not a huge fan of SWTCW anymore. Don't get me wrong I enjoy it but they kinda forced Traviss to scrap her last book. On a blog years ago she gave an outline of what it would have been.
@@anthonyanderson5302 Fair, may enjoy what they did with the clones in the show but can't help but mourn what stories could have been told if they didn't go for the bio-chip thing. Mando culture was definitely more visceral and real feeling in the books than what the shows had.
To this day, I will never forgive Disney for canceling the Imperial Commando follow game and novels. Delta was given permission to run a 3 man squad, much like Squad 40 in the book, and tasked with taking out a “terrorist” targeting the Imperial Garrisons. Lo and behold, you quickly learn its Sev, he survived when the shut down command went into effect and escaped, only to see the Wookiees he once rescued now being enslaved. Sev would rejoin Delta and they would defect, becoming the first “rebel soldiers”.
Neither cancellation had anything to do with Disney and happened years before the buyout, though. Imperial Commando was cancelled while it was still in the very early planning stages in 2005 due to major internal overhauls at LucasArts, and the Imperial Commando novels were cancelled because the author of the series, Karen Traviss, quit Star Wars writing after The Clone Wars retconned Mandalorian society in its second season
Oh wow, you’re desperate to blame Disney for anything aren’t you? The reason why that series was canceled because the author raged quit after finding out that her precious idea which incidentally was never hers to begin with got retconned in Star Wars the clone wars. And nothing to do with Disney and everything to do with the author pitching a fit because her precious little idea got changed by the creator which she should’ve known would’ve happened since Lucas didn’t consider Legends canon in his eyes, but she still acted like a child..
@sambridgers9543 it's crazy how much we propped up these authors only to find out they bicker like children and that Lucas considers their work fanfiction anyways
@@AssassinGTM So when Traviss has already burned her bridges with other EU authors, of course they're not gonna go help her when TCW retcons the Mandalorian lore.
I've always preferred looking at the Clone Wars as a dark, depressing, and pointless slaughter. Something like World War One. Mass slaughter to no aim.
When I went to boot camp I remember once we were all shaved bald and given the same clothing you couldn’t tell who was who for several days or even weeks. Eventually you start to be able to distinguish each other through very subtle appearances and mannerisms. I feel like that would be pretty similar for the clones. I can see why they chose different voice actors for the commandos.
I loved hearing about both potential Imperial Commando and Rebel Commando sequels, with an abandoned Sev and the 'loyal' rest of Delta facing off or something in some sort of combined narrative, just. Someone, sometime, has to give us that one day.
There is a book series called Republic commando and the start of a follow up series, imperial commando where this story is expounded upon into the first year of the empire, but it focuses on Omega squad as it's titular crew with Delta being secondary.
3:25 I feel like the Republic Commando approach to the average clone versus Delta embodies the 'operator worship' that was really taking hold about this time in culture. Yet by its story and especially that ending, it also reveals more truth about their expendability and overall inability to change things then many worshipful titles after.
i was really young when i watched the movies & played this game, and like you said around 3:00, i had no idea these were the clones they were talking about. i thought these guys just had cool, identical armor bc it’s a futuristic military. i thought the droids were the clones bc they all looked the same 😭 so i would get really confused about who’s on what side bc the clones were supposed to be with the jedi but they’re shooting the good guys & i thought the futuristic military guys were the bad guys because of those first scenes in A New Hope. i got off topic, but the point is that they did such an amazing job of giving the clones unique identities that i had no clue they were clones lol
Could you cover star wars: jedi starfighter and it's unique take? It goes all the way up to a new idea added into the first battle of Geonosis, which this addition i find canon
Ni su'cuyi, gar kyr'adyc, ni partayli, gar darasuum, Boss, Fixer, Sev, Scorch and every other clone that died during the clone wars. (I am still alive, but you are dead, i still remember you so you are eternal. -the mando'a written above)
Aha I totally forgot about the end credits song. Clones is legit one of my fave songs by the band Ash (who I discovered seeparately from this game, but around the same time) Nice call out. Shame the other clip got struck and is just dead air.
I dont know if the inhibitor chips were a good idea. Order 66 just seemed so much darker before this. To the best of my knowledge, Republic Commando (by this point Imperial Commando) was canceled after the inhibitor chips were made cannon, pre-Disney. A lot of commandos go AWOL as the Empire rises.
As a french person, i gotta say, that thumbnail IS dark and depressing. What do you mean my bread, a foundational piece of my identity, is meaningless. My mom even owns a bakery for crying out loud.
1:09 because it was the point. Most of clones are living droids that will take any comand from higher ups, only arc and other special clones had free will(and also quite a few modifications). The fact that jedi and republic were forced(by various means) to use living beings as droids and not understanding that they are treat to them as they are to droids is horrific
Oh boy!!!!!! I still remember how you interchange parts of the barrel and parts to reassemble it into various purposed blasters configurations! Really innovative gameplay design
Yes! An overview or review of Republic Commando finally made by this great channel. And I have a lot to say, so I aplogize in advance for how long this comment will be. Now I never actually played Republic Commando, I was more a Battlefront 1 and 2 fan, but this game is still very interesting and a few years ago I got interested and have watched a few great playthroughs of it and several reviews of the game, with you're great video now being added to that list. It's defiantly a fun look and fasanaiting game. You're ending conclusion on what happened is one I don't think I've heard before. I mean everyone has talked about how depressing it is to lose Sev, but I don't think anyone else has talked about how the ending is also the start of the Imperial occuation of Kashyyyk. Like you said, in Revenge of the Sith, it's framed to the auidence and even the Jedi themselves like Yoda who are firends with Wookies as them going to protect the planet from the Separatists, and because the Empire has been formed yet and there are still a lot of good Jedi left many don't see the ending of Republic Commando for what it truely is. I myself was fooled when I first watched playthroughs of this game, I thought the Deltas, like most Clones I saw in the Clone Wars 2008 series, were great heroic good heroes, but as I learned more about the Star Wars universe, by a combo of my own research and watching videos by many great Star Wars TH-camrs who discuss a lot of the great lore of the franchise, including yours Geetsly, I learn just how evil the Delta's and many Commandos truly were. Many of them willingly joined the Empire, some squads, including the Deltas, even going on to kill surviving Jedi, any Clone traitors or deserters, and anyone else who disagrees with the Empire even innocent and unarmed people. However, even knowing that, when I watched the ending cutscene of the game just two months ago during a review of the game by the great TH-camr Ciudad16, the whole Republic invasion line still flew over my head and I didn't notice it until you pointed it out. It's a blink and you'll miss it thing I guess. Just like with the Phantom Meance, even after all I've learned of the greater lore, things in these movies and games can still go undected by me until a genius like you points them out Geetsly. Well done. This games ending is more depressing then I realized. And I'm the one who in that video I mentioned by Ciudad16 pointed out the true evil of the Delta Squad when he mentioned at the end of the game how he saw the ending as a good thing, saying that Sev sacrificed himself for the greater good to help liberate Kashyyyk. Despite disagring with Ciudad16 I still greatly enjoyed his review and thought his more optomistic look at the ending of the game was very interesting. But I guess even I had some of that optomism in me despite knowing what the Deltas would go on to do, as I too was blind and didn't even notice the Republic invasion line like I said. I guess in the end, I still try to see the good in the Clones after all the good ones I saw in the Clone Wars 2008 series. Another interesting thing about this ending, is that the Delta's descion to leave Sev behind and blindly follow orders, can ultimately relate to why they eventually, like Scorch in the final episode of the Bad Batch, and most other Commandos failed the Empire and died. Because they ultimately choose to not be loyal to their fellow Clones. Hemlock stated in the final episode of the Bad Batch that this loyalty Clones have to each other is there greatest weakness, but as the episode shows it is the ultimate greatest streagth of many Clones, there loyalty and love for each other. Storming Tantiss was insane and had little chance of sucess, and two episodes before the finale as they prepair to latch on to the ship heading for Tantiss Ramphart tried to order the Bad Batch to not do this and Hunter tells him their not following that order, despite knowing how impossible this mission is the Bad Batch went anyways to save their family(Omega and the captured Clones), no matter what anyone said they would go. And in the end, as you well know Geetsly having watched the series yourself, after an epic battle, they succeed and one of the Imperials they kill is Scorch. Poetic, Scorch, and by extension the rest of the Delta Squad, despite how much they cared for Sev, choose to leave him behind and follow orders, but here the Bad Batch doesn't leave anyone behind they choose to be better people, think for themseleves, and not fight for the Empire and instead fight against it and save innocents, including their brothers and they take down Commandos like Scroch who choose to not to be better and think for themselves, just opting to be good little soldiers who blindly follow orders even if they disagree with it and ultimately that is why the Commandos and by extension the Empire fails. So one could say Republic Commando is a cautionary tale of abanding you're brother, you're family, because you were ordered to. It shows the Darker Side(pun intended) of loyalty. Luckily, good Clones from the Clone Wars 2008 series and the Bad Batch taught me Light Side of loyalty, the importance of loyalty and family and that those who don't cherise those things are doomed to fail, like Scorch did in the Bad Batch finale.
Very well said. The comparison between leaving Sev behind in RC versus the Bad Batch refusing to abandon anyone is especially interesting, I hadn't thought of that until you pointed it out. But you're totally right - it's the two sides of loyalty, with loyalty to abstract authority coming out on top in RC and personal loyalty coming out on top in TBB. And that's really the big theme with the clones in The Clone Wars as well, how they value loyalty above all and how they end up forced to choose between the genuine forms of loyalty and the ones they were programmed for.
@@geetslys Oh cool, I pointed out something you hadn't thought of before. Usually it's the other way around with you telling me something I didn't think of until you pointed it out, like in this video. :)
I recently got battlefront 2 classic on the switch, purely for the ship to ship space assaults, I lit up with joy hearing the Geetsly's intro was one of the sound affect (Yes the game came first but like any smash mouth song in a shrek movie is a shrek song first)
I think the most bitter part of republic commando for me are the messages that play when all of your squad members are downed. The complete indifference with which your advisor says "I think we lost delta squad" made me shiver. You were never nothing special in the grand scheme of things; only special to one another. A message driven home hard by the ending.
Nobody talks about that ki ad mundi and his race has 2 brains that work in diffrent times not a once and that he has 2 crystals in his lightsaber for use with diffrent brains as he can be negotiator or protector
Republic commando struck such a great balance between making you feel like a squad of super soldiers accomplishing impactful missions and having the player be terrified by enemies we mostly just see getting mowed down by Jedi etc. The accomplishment I felt later in the game having gotten better and being relatively easily able to kill the B2 super battle droids who were so scary in the beginning compared to the B1 and the common media depiction of the B2s was quickly replaced with trying to hit magna guards instead of my teammates
I never best this game as a kid, but I remembered it being amazing. When you said "2 gut punches" and the loss of Sev, I was fully prepared for the 2nd to be a new clone of Sev waiting for the team. I feel like "recontextualizing you as the bad guys" isn't really a gut punch to anyone who knows the story of the Clone Wars
Probably not many people know about this, but looking through the subtitle files of the game there are some lines that were cut from the ending and weren't even recorded - at least the sound files for them can't be found. When Sev's signal is lost, there is the version we know. But it seems originally the last line wasn't Scorch saying "Sir, we have to go back", it was Boss saying "Sorry, Sev. Deltas... move out." Then there is another version that is quite different. Sev describing his situation is worded differently. The Advisor here says only one thing: "you're needed elsewhere". Says nothing about evacuation or Master Yoda. Boss initially wants to go after Sev but as soon as the Advisor says "Negative, you're needed elsewhere", he doesn't argue at all. He simply says "We have our orders, commando!" and "We'll come back when there's time." Finally, at the epilogue, there is one line that was cut. After Boss says "Delta Squad, lock and load", the game was supposed to end by him saying "We'll come back for you, Sev. I promise." It's a little gut-wrenching to think that by the devs cutting this last line they sort of predicted that we will never see Delta Squad coming back for Sev. 😞
I've always figured that B2s were *supposed* to be terrifying monsters on the battlefield. Other media softens them because a) there's Jedi with Laser Swords running around and b) they're intended as more light-hearted tales. Commando may have exaggerated them overly in the *other* direction, but I do like the portrayal of them as beasts on the battlefield. It helps sell the "the Clone Wars only seems cool cause the Protags are Jedi" concept.
Geetsly, I got as far as Trandoshians with their shotties onboard an Acclamator, and then I lost interest. P.S. Geetsly, thank-you for showing me how the game ended.
14:22 You're supposed to throw an EMP and then a couple sniper shots will drop them in like 3 seconds. You're not supposed to use the standard blaster rifle or melee on SBDs. The game never properly explains this so to this day even in new videos no one knows how to actually fight supers in Republic Commando
I enjoyed this game so much as a kid, bought it on steam back in 2019 and had a blast reliving the adventure. It holds up surprisingly well. God how I wish plans for the follow up hadn’t fallen through.
Yeah, LucasArts was discouraged about making a sequel because RC didn’t sell well. ….Which is to be expected when you drop a super-soldier FPS less than 4 months after Halo 2, missing a Christmas release while still well before Spring or Summer break, with like no marketing campaign.
Yeah, most depressing Star Wars game. I know that Knights of the Old Republic 2 is acclaimed for its dark narrative, but you could work to make a difference in the galaxy. But in Republic Commando, it's a foregone conclusion of how things are about to go.
Delta Squad may be just another batch of clones in the grand scheme of the war, but to me, they'll always be their unique, individual selves, heroes of the Clone Wars!
Great video republic comando is one of my favorit star wars media. But i came up with a question to something you said near the beginning when you said the star wars the clone wars was a show about how war influenced the Charakters. I think that you can see that with most of the main Charakters like asoka, anakin or rex but what about obi wan? How did the clone wars influence him
This game is one of the very best games in Star Wars history. It perfectly depicts the horrors of war and tells a story of camaraderie amidst all the chaos that's going on in the galaxy far far away. Such a shame is a short game, but gamefies the accomplishments of your squad in a way that few games tried, by showing not telling how superior you are from your "common brethen". When I played this game and finished it, I felt like I needed more of this storytelling. But Disney being disney, destroyed and shattered my dreams.
The optimism of The Clone Wars makes it all the more tragic. Order 66 overrides all of the hopefulness of the series. These clones, who we fell in love with, lost all their hope and individualism in that one order. It builds up the audience with love for Fives and other clones, only for their turn to gut us completely. While showing the grittiness of the war is fun and interesting, the emotional journey of The Clone Wars hits harder than a gritty depiction ever could.
Huge emphasis on the super battle droids being terrifying. Love the game, love the video. Interesting how it ties back to the og plot of war is bad and all that
Actually the reason why Delta Squad would have different voices is because they were trained by other Mandolins when you raised by someone with a different accent you will adopt to that accent even if you're a Clone it still works that way. So if each member of Delta Squad was trained by different Mandolins then there accent will sound like there trainer especially if they raised by them. Example in real life let's say there is someone who was born in Japan but was raised by Russians that Japanese child would have a Russian accent that's how it works and it can work with a Jango Fett Clone as long there not raised by Jango or someone who sounds like him they will adopt a different accent.
True. But Delta was trained by the same Mando: Walon Vau. So technically Boss shouldn't sound like Jango, but that's a nitpick really. The goal was probably to exaggerate the subtle voice differences they had into something the player would actually notice. That artistic license Geetsly mentioned.
Would've been great to see a Republic commando game that covered the events of the novels that came out after the game or even a Dark horse comic adaptation of those novels
Republic Commando is probably my favorite Star wars game. It wasn't especially exciting compared to other similar games of the era. Despite this it wasn't simply a mid 2000s first person shooter. The creators managed to take the setting and the rather basic gameplay and create a truly wonderful game. It proves you don't need super original gameplay or a unique setting to make a good game.
This clip just further proves just how effectively everybody was duped by the Order of the Sith Lord's Sith Grand Plan executed by Darth Sidious and Plagueis . All him and Plagueis had to do to finalize was just stroke the fires of succession.
I would love a remake or sequel of Republic Commando. This was one of the only squad based shooters that grabbed me. I couldn’t believe the ending was then end when I was a kid. I thought there had to be another mission somehow.
Something you didn't bring up specifically that ties into the "warping of reality." aspect of the game is the individual squad members specializations. Even though the game starts by telling you what each member of specializes in, when it comes to gameplay every member of the squad completes each command with equal effectiveness. The only exceptions are 38 when it comes to weapon based roles as we control him and possibly Sev when it comes to sniping? But that may just be confirmation bias on my part and it would not surprise me if someone else thought Scorch was better in the anti-armor and grenade roles. What I can say for sure is, that regardless of who you order to slice a terminal or place explosives, it gets done in the same amount of time. I kind of doubt this was done intentionally, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Let's not forget Genndys clone wars animated series. To me probably just as good or better than older star wars movies worthy of being included within Star wars property that on a personal I could keep watching and finding different things that inspires my artistic take on the franchise.
Really reminded me of delta squads fate in imperial commando,(don’t know what happens to boss or where he is) fixer and scorch get reassigned to another squad to replace some of their members. Fixer dies in a mission then scorch kills himself. Pretty damn depressing
No matter the hype behind TCW, Legends clone wars will always be superior to it in every single way. I would trade Ashoka Tano for a competent and menacing Grievous any day of the fuckin week.
I do think that a deeper dive needs to be done on the republic+imperial commando series as it is one of the best series for Star wars as no one seems to mention that it covered things like child soldiers, PTSD and very early on the point that the clones are nothing more than products which the republic owns and some other things which does not seemed to be touch on by most utube peoples. Although I would suggest just ignoring the whole canon/legends argument.
Republic Commando is an open reminder that the Clone Wars were a very brutal conflict and that the clones were very much designed to fight against such a very horrible conflict.
very is a useless word, same with honestly seriously literally actually
@@herbmaasterNot at all, just some popular (mis)uses are redundant.
''Andor'' is TRASH. Full, Piles of it. +
@@herbmaasterAutism.
@@onojioboardwalk9748 L post.
"Flying is easy..... landing is hard" -Sev. Miss you ner vod.
I remember that final scene very vividly. Echoing in the back of my mind at that moment were words from the Star Wars Battlefront II (2005) campaign:
“We left as heroes. Years later, we’d return as conquerors.”
I endlessly replayed Republic Commando and the BF2 campaign, such great games.
Back then we could actually have Imperial stories.
@@rienstien1same. Even when we didn’t have online play, my brothers and I would have so much fun on those games replaying the campaigns and playing the multiplayer.
It’s sad they don’t make games with 3-4 person split screen anymore.
I remember during Luke’s training. Obi-Wan said to him: Your eyes can deceive you; don’t trust them. The artistic license you pointed out brings that line to a whole other level. In all other star wars media, we mostly see things at a third-person perspective. We shown things exactly the way they are. Republic Commando exclusively shows you Boss’ perception of his surroundings. And it’s slightly distorted. He can tell his brothers apart, you can hear that.
Clones having different voices is a detail I would have kept, even if it didn't make much sense. It gave each one their own personality, and made them more unique
That final section gave me flashbacks to the ROTS novel's depiction of Vader's realization that he was always Anakin, and that there was no dragon.
This game was such a beautiful gut punch. We thought we were heroes, we thought we were unique, we thought we were invincible when united. But we were wrong. This really is the darkest Star Wars game to date. Shame the Imperial Commando sequal got canceled and now we'll never get a conclusion to Delta Squad's story.
At least Delta Squad went for a very enthusiastic walk.
Too bad one of them got lost in the interim, and was never found again.
Still miss Sev, my vod o'r irude. 🫡😢
@@vee-bee-aNever liked how in the ending the droids went only after him.
@@moderndemon84 It was the Trandoshan slavers that, apparently, got to him. And he was the first to man the Wookie turret, which meant he was the farthest from the rest of the squad; one of the major factors in his 'elmination'... Nah, _blast_ that... _I_ believe he's just M.I.A.
Vode an. 🫡
@@moderndemon84he just got picked up by omega squad
@@vee-bee-athe plans for games and sequel novels were that he would escape and help found the rebellion, and eventually the rest of Delta would join him.
Pissed we didn't see their stories conclude even in Legends, loved those books
Part of why I'm not a huge fan of SWTCW anymore. Don't get me wrong I enjoy it but they kinda forced Traviss to scrap her last book. On a blog years ago she gave an outline of what it would have been.
@@anthonyanderson5302 Fair, may enjoy what they did with the clones in the show but can't help but mourn what stories could have been told if they didn't go for the bio-chip thing. Mando culture was definitely more visceral and real feeling in the books than what the shows had.
@@anthonyanderson5302 they didn’t force her to scrap the book. She scrapped the book because she pitched a fit.
@@Toramai-pi8wxyeah, because they decanonised everything she had written
They weren’t supposed to conclude much anyway.
To this day, I will never forgive Disney for canceling the Imperial Commando follow game and novels. Delta was given permission to run a 3 man squad, much like Squad 40 in the book, and tasked with taking out a “terrorist” targeting the Imperial Garrisons. Lo and behold, you quickly learn its Sev, he survived when the shut down command went into effect and escaped, only to see the Wookiees he once rescued now being enslaved. Sev would rejoin Delta and they would defect, becoming the first “rebel soldiers”.
Neither cancellation had anything to do with Disney and happened years before the buyout, though. Imperial Commando was cancelled while it was still in the very early planning stages in 2005 due to major internal overhauls at LucasArts, and the Imperial Commando novels were cancelled because the author of the series, Karen Traviss, quit Star Wars writing after The Clone Wars retconned Mandalorian society in its second season
Oh wow, you’re desperate to blame Disney for anything aren’t you? The reason why that series was canceled because the author raged quit after finding out that her precious idea which incidentally was never hers to begin with got retconned in Star Wars the clone wars. And nothing to do with Disney and everything to do with the author pitching a fit because her precious little idea got changed by the creator which she should’ve known would’ve happened since Lucas didn’t consider Legends canon in his eyes, but she still acted like a child..
@@GeneralGrievous-1138 Also, Traviss' author wars with Troy Denning in Legacy of the Force had something to do with her departure.
@sambridgers9543 it's crazy how much we propped up these authors only to find out they bicker like children and that Lucas considers their work fanfiction anyways
@@AssassinGTM So when Traviss has already burned her bridges with other EU authors, of course they're not gonna go help her when TCW retcons the Mandalorian lore.
Republic commando is the Star Wars equivalent of halo 3 odst where brutes become insane bosses you can only take out with skilled grenade use
You mean the hunters?
I've always preferred looking at the Clone Wars as a dark, depressing, and pointless slaughter. Something like World War One. Mass slaughter to no aim.
I Though you took a shot at the clones aim got a second 😂 its too early
Republic Commando has to be one of the darkest take on the Clone Wars ever !
And the best.
I like that your squad members were actually fairly competent NPCs in this game.
back in 2007 the only thing that is always on my mind is boss asking his squad to get some bacta
Rule 17 never say no to bacta.
Clone commandos are popular for a reason.
I really do hope that we get a Black series Clone Commando helmet
@@isaackim7675 i hope so too.
Exactly
@@forcierlogan 👍
Them falling in line with the Empire hurts my soul
When I went to boot camp I remember once we were all shaved bald and given the same clothing you couldn’t tell who was who for several days or even weeks.
Eventually you start to be able to distinguish each other through very subtle appearances and mannerisms. I feel like that would be pretty similar for the clones. I can see why they chose different voice actors for the commandos.
Absolutely loved the tone & atmosphere of Republic Commando. Shame we never got the Order 66 sequel :( Imagine hunting Jedi
I loved hearing about both potential Imperial Commando and Rebel Commando sequels, with an abandoned Sev and the 'loyal' rest of Delta facing off or something in some sort of combined narrative, just. Someone, sometime, has to give us that one day.
It seems both legends and canon Clone Wars can sometimes get depressing for the clones and the jedi.
There is a book series called Republic commando and the start of a follow up series, imperial commando where this story is expounded upon into the first year of the empire, but it focuses on Omega squad as it's titular crew with Delta being secondary.
3:25 I feel like the Republic Commando approach to the average clone versus Delta embodies the 'operator worship' that was really taking hold about this time in culture. Yet by its story and especially that ending, it also reveals more truth about their expendability and overall inability to change things then many worshipful titles after.
The theme song pretty much proves your point, in the end the Clone Commandos is just another clone.
I think they beefed up the B2s because of the removal of Jedi, even the toughest enemies can be brought down in one or two strikes.
I'm a simple man, I see Republic Commando, I click and watch.
i was really young when i watched the movies & played this game, and like you said around 3:00, i had no idea these were the clones they were talking about. i thought these guys just had cool, identical armor bc it’s a futuristic military. i thought the droids were the clones bc they all looked the same 😭 so i would get really confused about who’s on what side bc the clones were supposed to be with the jedi but they’re shooting the good guys & i thought the futuristic military guys were the bad guys because of those first scenes in A New Hope. i got off topic, but the point is that they did such an amazing job of giving the clones unique identities that i had no clue they were clones lol
The way that Scorch became a bodyguard for Project Necromancer, it was a disservice to the veteran and his squadmates.
My headcanon is that he became jaded/depressed after everything he went through.
Honestly felt like someone just used the paint job with no thought behind it
Not everyone gets the satisfying happy end
It was such a waste to make it Scorch he was so deadpan and lacking in character. It was just someone wearing his look for cheap fan service
I agree they did my boy scorch dirty in the bad batch
love this game, played a lot when I was a kid.
When we were young.
Could you cover star wars: jedi starfighter and it's unique take? It goes all the way up to a new idea added into the first battle of Geonosis, which this addition i find canon
Ni su'cuyi, gar kyr'adyc, ni partayli, gar darasuum, Boss, Fixer, Sev, Scorch and every other clone that died during the clone wars.
(I am still alive, but you are dead, i still remember you so you are eternal. -the mando'a written above)
It’s always entertaining to hear you talk about Clone Commandos. Those soldiers are badass, and I’m so glad that I played the game.
Aha I totally forgot about the end credits song. Clones is legit one of my fave songs by the band Ash (who I discovered seeparately from this game, but around the same time) Nice call out. Shame the other clip got struck and is just dead air.
I’ll find you, Sev. I’ll never stop looking for you.
I dont know if the inhibitor chips were a good idea. Order 66 just seemed so much darker before this. To the best of my knowledge, Republic Commando (by this point Imperial Commando) was canceled after the inhibitor chips were made cannon, pre-Disney. A lot of commandos go AWOL as the Empire rises.
Such a good game I didn't know it had such a realization behind it
As a french person, i gotta say, that thumbnail IS dark and depressing. What do you mean my bread, a foundational piece of my identity, is meaningless. My mom even owns a bakery for crying out loud.
du P A I N
Bahahahah what a french-english pun
I love republic commando l can't stop playing it it's so freaking fun and it never gets old 😊
17:41: I love this. Making art of Delta Squad based on the front cover of Halo Reach.
Loved the dynamic between Scorch and Sev.
1:09 because it was the point. Most of clones are living droids that will take any comand from higher ups, only arc and other special clones had free will(and also quite a few modifications). The fact that jedi and republic were forced(by various means) to use living beings as droids and not understanding that they are treat to them as they are to droids is horrific
Very true
We have needed a Sewuel where we go back for our missing brother. Still do.
Sev Lives!
Talking about the artistic license was so eye opening and really made me think about how it can be used with things like propaganda
The clip that was muted had Imperial march playing, so ya, dark tone.
Best Star Wars game hands down
my favorite Star Wars game! As a kid i was so mad and sad about not being able to go back for Sev.
Same.
Oh boy!!!!!!
I still remember how you interchange parts of the barrel and parts to reassemble it into various purposed blasters configurations! Really innovative gameplay design
Was at war when the republic commando dropped. Loved that game till this day.
Yes! An overview or review of Republic Commando finally made by this great channel. And I have a lot to say, so I aplogize in advance for how long this comment will be.
Now I never actually played Republic Commando, I was more a Battlefront 1 and 2 fan, but this game is still very interesting and a few years ago I got interested and have watched a few great playthroughs of it and several reviews of the game, with you're great video now being added to that list. It's defiantly a fun look and fasanaiting game.
You're ending conclusion on what happened is one I don't think I've heard before. I mean everyone has talked about how depressing it is to lose Sev, but I don't think anyone else has talked about how the ending is also the start of the Imperial occuation of Kashyyyk. Like you said, in Revenge of the Sith, it's framed to the auidence and even the Jedi themselves like Yoda who are firends with Wookies as them going to protect the planet from the Separatists, and because the Empire has been formed yet and there are still a lot of good Jedi left many don't see the ending of Republic Commando for what it truely is. I myself was fooled when I first watched playthroughs of this game, I thought the Deltas, like most Clones I saw in the Clone Wars 2008 series, were great heroic good heroes, but as I learned more about the Star Wars universe, by a combo of my own research and watching videos by many great Star Wars TH-camrs who discuss a lot of the great lore of the franchise, including yours Geetsly, I learn just how evil the Delta's and many Commandos truly were. Many of them willingly joined the Empire, some squads, including the Deltas, even going on to kill surviving Jedi, any Clone traitors or deserters, and anyone else who disagrees with the Empire even innocent and unarmed people. However, even knowing that, when I watched the ending cutscene of the game just two months ago during a review of the game by the great TH-camr Ciudad16, the whole Republic invasion line still flew over my head and I didn't notice it until you pointed it out. It's a blink and you'll miss it thing I guess. Just like with the Phantom Meance, even after all I've learned of the greater lore, things in these movies and games can still go undected by me until a genius like you points them out Geetsly. Well done. This games ending is more depressing then I realized. And I'm the one who in that video I mentioned by Ciudad16 pointed out the true evil of the Delta Squad when he mentioned at the end of the game how he saw the ending as a good thing, saying that Sev sacrificed himself for the greater good to help liberate Kashyyyk. Despite disagring with Ciudad16 I still greatly enjoyed his review and thought his more optomistic look at the ending of the game was very interesting. But I guess even I had some of that optomism in me despite knowing what the Deltas would go on to do, as I too was blind and didn't even notice the Republic invasion line like I said. I guess in the end, I still try to see the good in the Clones after all the good ones I saw in the Clone Wars 2008 series.
Another interesting thing about this ending, is that the Delta's descion to leave Sev behind and blindly follow orders, can ultimately relate to why they eventually, like Scorch in the final episode of the Bad Batch, and most other Commandos failed the Empire and died. Because they ultimately choose to not be loyal to their fellow Clones. Hemlock stated in the final episode of the Bad Batch that this loyalty Clones have to each other is there greatest weakness, but as the episode shows it is the ultimate greatest streagth of many Clones, there loyalty and love for each other. Storming Tantiss was insane and had little chance of sucess, and two episodes before the finale as they prepair to latch on to the ship heading for Tantiss Ramphart tried to order the Bad Batch to not do this and Hunter tells him their not following that order, despite knowing how impossible this mission is the Bad Batch went anyways to save their family(Omega and the captured Clones), no matter what anyone said they would go. And in the end, as you well know Geetsly having watched the series yourself, after an epic battle, they succeed and one of the Imperials they kill is Scorch. Poetic, Scorch, and by extension the rest of the Delta Squad, despite how much they cared for Sev, choose to leave him behind and follow orders, but here the Bad Batch doesn't leave anyone behind they choose to be better people, think for themseleves, and not fight for the Empire and instead fight against it and save innocents, including their brothers and they take down Commandos like Scroch who choose to not to be better and think for themselves, just opting to be good little soldiers who blindly follow orders even if they disagree with it and ultimately that is why the Commandos and by extension the Empire fails. So one could say Republic Commando is a cautionary tale of abanding you're brother, you're family, because you were ordered to. It shows the Darker Side(pun intended) of loyalty. Luckily, good Clones from the Clone Wars 2008 series and the Bad Batch taught me Light Side of loyalty, the importance of loyalty and family and that those who don't cherise those things are doomed to fail, like Scorch did in the Bad Batch finale.
Very well said. The comparison between leaving Sev behind in RC versus the Bad Batch refusing to abandon anyone is especially interesting, I hadn't thought of that until you pointed it out. But you're totally right - it's the two sides of loyalty, with loyalty to abstract authority coming out on top in RC and personal loyalty coming out on top in TBB. And that's really the big theme with the clones in The Clone Wars as well, how they value loyalty above all and how they end up forced to choose between the genuine forms of loyalty and the ones they were programmed for.
@@geetslys Oh cool, I pointed out something you hadn't thought of before. Usually it's the other way around with you telling me something I didn't think of until you pointed it out, like in this video. :)
@@geetslysCan we go back to shorter videos?
I recently got battlefront 2 classic on the switch, purely for the ship to ship space assaults, I lit up with joy hearing the Geetsly's intro was one of the sound affect (Yes the game came first but like any smash mouth song in a shrek movie is a shrek song first)
I think the most bitter part of republic commando for me are the messages that play when all of your squad members are downed. The complete indifference with which your advisor says "I think we lost delta squad" made me shiver. You were never nothing special in the grand scheme of things; only special to one another. A message driven home hard by the ending.
Nobody talks about the MARVELOUS soundtrack this game had. Original tracks, some with lyrics in Mando’ade.
Nobody talks about that ki ad mundi and his race has 2 brains that work in diffrent times not a once and that he has 2 crystals in his lightsaber for use with diffrent brains as he can be negotiator or protector
@DINO-9843 he doesn't have two crystals, lol. That was just an editing fuckup with him having a green one for 2 sec in Ep.2, simple as that bud
@@idiot_city5444 he does, most jedi has 2
@DINO-9843 no they don't, unless you're referring to the focusing crystals.
@@idiot_city5444 no, most jedi have 2 because of underwater modifctions, so anakin for sure, ahsoka, kit fisto, aayla secura
Nice episode, good work.
This was a fantastic anaylsis of the game that ive played so many times but never fully understood untill now. Thank you for this!
Republic commando struck such a great balance between making you feel like a squad of super soldiers accomplishing impactful missions and having the player be terrified by enemies we mostly just see getting mowed down by Jedi etc. The accomplishment I felt later in the game having gotten better and being relatively easily able to kill the B2 super battle droids who were so scary in the beginning compared to the B1 and the common media depiction of the B2s was quickly replaced with trying to hit magna guards instead of my teammates
I never best this game as a kid, but I remembered it being amazing. When you said "2 gut punches" and the loss of Sev, I was fully prepared for the 2nd to be a new clone of Sev waiting for the team. I feel like "recontextualizing you as the bad guys" isn't really a gut punch to anyone who knows the story of the Clone Wars
Probably not many people know about this, but looking through the subtitle files of the game there are some lines that were cut from the ending and weren't even recorded - at least the sound files for them can't be found. When Sev's signal is lost, there is the version we know. But it seems originally the last line wasn't Scorch saying "Sir, we have to go back", it was Boss saying "Sorry, Sev. Deltas... move out."
Then there is another version that is quite different. Sev describing his situation is worded differently. The Advisor here says only one thing: "you're needed elsewhere". Says nothing about evacuation or Master Yoda. Boss initially wants to go after Sev but as soon as the Advisor says "Negative, you're needed elsewhere", he doesn't argue at all. He simply says "We have our orders, commando!" and "We'll come back when there's time."
Finally, at the epilogue, there is one line that was cut. After Boss says "Delta Squad, lock and load", the game was supposed to end by him saying "We'll come back for you, Sev. I promise."
It's a little gut-wrenching to think that by the devs cutting this last line they sort of predicted that we will never see Delta Squad coming back for Sev. 😞
Fixer and Gregor are my fav members of the clone commandoes
Gregor wasn't part of Delta Squad.
I've always figured that B2s were *supposed* to be terrifying monsters on the battlefield. Other media softens them because a) there's Jedi with Laser Swords running around and b) they're intended as more light-hearted tales. Commando may have exaggerated them overly in the *other* direction, but I do like the portrayal of them as beasts on the battlefield. It helps sell the "the Clone Wars only seems cool cause the Protags are Jedi" concept.
Definitely the darkest and most depressing Star Wars game I have played
One of my favorite games of all time, but I never considered it from this perspective. I’m gonna have to play it again now to truly experience it
Geetsly, I got as far as Trandoshians with their shotties onboard an Acclamator, and then I lost interest. P.S. Geetsly, thank-you for showing me how the game ended.
Noooo.
in the end they all just followed orders
14:22 You're supposed to throw an EMP and then a couple sniper shots will drop them in like 3 seconds. You're not supposed to use the standard blaster rifle or melee on SBDs. The game never properly explains this so to this day even in new videos no one knows how to actually fight supers in Republic Commando
I enjoyed this game so much as a kid, bought it on steam back in 2019 and had a blast reliving the adventure. It holds up surprisingly well. God how I wish plans for the follow up hadn’t fallen through.
Yeah, LucasArts was discouraged about making a sequel because RC didn’t sell well.
….Which is to be expected when you drop a super-soldier FPS less than 4 months after Halo 2, missing a Christmas release while still well before Spring or Summer break, with like no marketing campaign.
"Rule number 34, never say no to bacta".
When in doubt, remember:
RULE 17
Yeah, most depressing Star Wars game. I know that Knights of the Old Republic 2 is acclaimed for its dark narrative, but you could work to make a difference in the galaxy. But in Republic Commando, it's a foregone conclusion of how things are about to go.
My pain is meaningless in the face of fictional characters? All pain is meaningless in the face of reality.
These boys live in my head rent free I wish we got the game sequel and the last novel
Delta Squad may be just another batch of clones in the grand scheme of the war, but to me, they'll always be their unique, individual selves, heroes of the Clone Wars!
Great video republic comando is one of my favorit star wars media.
But i came up with a question to something you said near the beginning when you said the star wars the clone wars was a show about how war influenced the Charakters.
I think that you can see that with most of the main Charakters like asoka, anakin or rex but what about obi wan? How did the clone wars influence him
This game is one of the very best games in Star Wars history. It perfectly depicts the horrors of war and tells a story of camaraderie amidst all the chaos that's going on in the galaxy far far away. Such a shame is a short game, but gamefies the accomplishments of your squad in a way that few games tried, by showing not telling how superior you are from your "common brethen". When I played this game and finished it, I felt like I needed more of this storytelling. But Disney being disney, destroyed and shattered my dreams.
The optimism of The Clone Wars makes it all the more tragic. Order 66 overrides all of the hopefulness of the series. These clones, who we fell in love with, lost all their hope and individualism in that one order. It builds up the audience with love for Fives and other clones, only for their turn to gut us completely.
While showing the grittiness of the war is fun and interesting, the emotional journey of The Clone Wars hits harder than a gritty depiction ever could.
The menu screen music also goes hard!
Huge emphasis on the super battle droids being terrifying. Love the game, love the video. Interesting how it ties back to the og plot of war is bad and all that
25 seconds in and I’m already enjoying it. Have high hopes for this❤❤❤
I just got the platinum trophy for this glorious game today. Absolutely great!
Actually the reason why Delta Squad would have different voices is because they were trained by other Mandolins when you raised by someone with a different accent you will adopt to that accent even if you're a Clone it still works that way. So if each member of Delta Squad was trained by different Mandolins then there accent will sound like there trainer especially if they raised by them. Example in real life let's say there is someone who was born in Japan but was raised by Russians that Japanese child would have a Russian accent that's how it works and it can work with a Jango Fett Clone as long there not raised by Jango or someone who sounds like him they will adopt a different accent.
True. But Delta was trained by the same Mando: Walon Vau.
So technically Boss shouldn't sound like Jango, but that's a nitpick really.
The goal was probably to exaggerate the subtle voice differences they had into something the player would actually notice. That artistic license Geetsly mentioned.
@circustrainstudios341 The obvious real reason was because Lucas arts didn't want to confuse the player on which Commando was talking.
@@theterribleclaw4285 Pretty much. Still works though.
Would've been great to see a Republic commando game that covered the events of the novels that came out after the game or even a Dark horse comic adaptation of those novels
Favorite game of all time, first shooter, would give right nut for remake or sequel. So sad to see what they did to my demo boy
Republic Commando is probably my favorite Star wars game. It wasn't especially exciting compared to other similar games of the era. Despite this it wasn't simply a mid 2000s first person shooter. The creators managed to take the setting and the rather basic gameplay and create a truly wonderful game. It proves you don't need super original gameplay or a unique setting to make a good game.
Delta squad are the Thiccc clones 😮
This clip just further proves just how effectively everybody was duped by the Order of the Sith Lord's Sith Grand Plan executed by Darth Sidious and Plagueis . All him and Plagueis had to do to finalize was just stroke the fires of succession.
I would love a remake or sequel of Republic Commando. This was one of the only squad based shooters that grabbed me. I couldn’t believe the ending was then end when I was a kid. I thought there had to be another mission somehow.
Something you didn't bring up specifically that ties into the "warping of reality." aspect of the game is the individual squad members specializations. Even though the game starts by telling you what each member of specializes in, when it comes to gameplay every member of the squad completes each command with equal effectiveness. The only exceptions are 38 when it comes to weapon based roles as we control him and possibly Sev when it comes to sniping? But that may just be confirmation bias on my part and it would not surprise me if someone else thought Scorch was better in the anti-armor and grenade roles. What I can say for sure is, that regardless of who you order to slice a terminal or place explosives, it gets done in the same amount of time. I kind of doubt this was done intentionally, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Feloni wishes he could write like this.
Delta Squad are my favorite Clone's they alone could defeat the CIS, Empire and First Order why because they are what the song says Vode An.
Let's not forget Genndys clone wars animated series. To me probably just as good or better than older star wars movies worthy of being included within Star wars property that on a personal I could keep watching and finding different things that inspires my artistic take on the franchise.
8:19 is this a comic? Cause ya know I distinctly remember what happens to Ayla in episode 3 👀
Really reminded me of delta squads fate in imperial commando,(don’t know what happens to boss or where he is) fixer and scorch get reassigned to another squad to replace some of their members. Fixer dies in a mission then scorch kills himself. Pretty damn depressing
No matter the hype behind TCW, Legends clone wars will always be superior to it in every single way. I would trade Ashoka Tano for a competent and menacing Grievous any day of the fuckin week.
I do think that a deeper dive needs to be done on the republic+imperial commando series as it is one of the best series for Star wars as no one seems to mention that it covered things like child soldiers, PTSD and very early on the point that the clones are nothing more than products which the republic owns and some other things which does not seemed to be touch on by most utube peoples. Although I would suggest just ignoring the whole canon/legends argument.
What we all want and need is a imperial commado game where we hunt down jedi.
Republic Commando, one of the best Star Wars games I have ever played
I had the exact oposite reaction to when yoda appeared on holo. Order 66 couldn't come sooner.
Ok, since when Clones were fighting against Mass Effects Cerberus XD? (image on 18:20) They even use ME weapons....
If Heaven is real, Republic Commando 2 is there waiting.
This game was/is incredible! Legendary one may say.
Republic Commando is the reason i couldn't get into the Bad Batch, they always felt like a discount, less interesting version of Delta squad
This game destroyed me when I was a teen, I can't describe how much I loved it
great analysis!
You was not the bad guy nor Delta, hate the politics not the soldiers.