S&W M&P Shield Plus Shooting Impressions
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- 0:00 S&W M&P Shield Plus Shooting Impressions
0:24 Starting Cold
2:20 Full Mag +1
3:46 What’s For Dinner™
9:35 Sights & Trigger Control
12:26 Practical Accuracy
13:27 After Shots
17:03 Thank YOU Patrons!
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Over the last 8 years I've owned a 1.0 Shield, 2.0 Shield, Shield Plus, and Optics Ready Shield Plus. Never have I seen a Shield malfunction. They are rock-solid dependable, and more controllable and better grip than the other micro 9's like my P365 XL or Hellcat. So I'm sticking with them.
My Shield Plus shoots fantastic and has been 100% reliable. I am able to fully load my mags.I absolutely LOVE mine!
I'm thinking of getting one...but all the reviews I saw were over two years ago...I was looking for something more current ...hows the reliability? Any misfeed issues?
I have one and reliability is on par with Glock guns. Also in my own experience it shoot softer than all the other micro guns, shoots almost as a full size G19 gun@@slvalive
@@slvalive Failures of any sort are practically unheard of with the Shield. That goes for the 1.0, 2.0 and the Plus. They just work.
Shield Plus has the best trigger from the factory for any M&P series..... but okay
He never complains about shooting left with other guns like he does this one. It looked to me like he wanted to hate it. I have carried many pistols over the years and this one is in the top 3
@@triggerman1092 yeah i really dont know how someone could say something bad about the Plus's trigger but not anything about every other terrible M&P trigger
Three inch barrel is gonna be snappy
You must have missed the tabletop video
This guys a poser, can’t close slide lock on new gun, shooting left, and just the general terminology used is a dead giveaway.
Nice beard tho 😂
The trigger on mine is excellent and predictable. Very pleased with mine after 1000 plus rounds.
Had the original shield years ago. Also have had a bunch of other micro compacts, but I picked up a shield plus a few months ago. I can’t get past how good the shield feels and shoots. It’s plain but it just works for me.
I think the shield plus is the best all-arounder in its class, love the trigger. Great buy for 400$…
Btw… I have had zero problems fully loading mags. Lol
Good, honest review, sir. I like watching videos on pistols I already own.. it keeps me from buying a bunch of new stuff! I love my Shields and especially my Shield Plus. It’s been my hot-weather / deep-concealment option for a few years now. Stay safe up there. 🤟😎
Thank you (responding from Vienna, Austria on our way back home from visiting Grand Power in Slovakia!)
OG, gonna have to figure out how to make a shotgun round out of a shields barrel and blast that into the gummie lol
@@GBGuns Soooo, not impressed after shooting the Q1S?
After watching a few of your videos; I think it will be my next pistol purchase.
Smith & Wesson clearly note that it is a slide lock. Not a slide release
The slide release didn't want to release because it was designed to be a slide lock. That's what S&W told me anyway.
Yup! I kept saying to myself that “slide release” he keeps talking about is actually a slide lock.
I think the best thing about the Shield is that it's reliable with most every kind of ammo. I added a pinky extension base plate on my 10 round magazine and it helped with controllability.
Interesting review. Perhaps the only review that was negative re. the trigger and recoil impulse. I love my Dig P365. P375X, and Hellcat Pro but must admit my Shield Plus has the best trigger. Different strokes for different folks.
Thanks for the review!
To fully load the mag you must bevel the inside of the follower where the spring sits as it compresses. The geometry of the lip on the bottom of the inside of the follower has a sharp angle/edge and causes spring to hang up as it enters
Just use uplula, I’ve not trimmed anything
@@sooners2win agree! I use UpLula and have no issues loading the mags full
I enjoyed your good, honest review. I went through quite a few small 9mm's before I finally stayed with my shield plus. So far no reliability problem at all. Trigger is good for me. I only put 12 in the extended mag but it will hold all 13.
I have a shield 2.0. that I carry in the summer, I changed out the trigger. added night sites. upgraded the springs in each magazine to give me plus one. Put an aluminum pinky extension on the 7 / now 8 round mag.. I carry the Shield & the backup mag with confidence Because that's a total of 17 rounds out of a carry gun that I shoot very well.
The trigger on mine is nothing but clean, crisp, and consistent. And it groups pretty-much all ammo equally and accurately. Can hit a torso size target at fifty yards without much effort, such a fantastic weapon. If I ever get another carry gun for some reason I will still never get rid it. The stock night sights are extremely good, too. And never a single malfunction, I run it five hundred plus rounds dry and dirty as shit before cleaning and no hiccups. As for getting those thirteen round mags loaded, call Smith & Wesson and tell them the issue, they will most likely send you new springs. They won't admit that it's a design or manufacturing error, but they should send you those springs free of charge. My 13 rounders were a bitch to load even with a mag loader, now a breeze to load by hand with the new springs and they run flawlessly. A Pearce pinky extension (part#: PG-MPPL) really levels up the 10-round mags and makes them very easy to shoot.
I just got my Shield Plus (and all my other guns) back from the police within the last 2 months or so. I bought the Plus when it first released, and had reliably put about 500 rounds of steel case and 300 rounds of brass rounds through it before losing it in November 2021, where it sat, uncleaned, for 17 months. It shot 100 rounds just fine before i did the deep cleaning from all the rust, dust, and carbon build up. I love it.
Also, funny enough. My model has a fantastic trigger that hits a solid wall that breaks like glass. It's better than my first run Walther PDP.
Always love your honest reviews. This was no exception. Sack's Garage has a video on the mag capacity issue. As noted by an earlier poster, the spring doesn't quite seat completely in the bottom of the follower, causing the last round or two to be impossible to load. I've had no problem with my mags, but I still use a loader on that 13th round, just to save my 77 year old thumb from abuse. Had a Gen-1 Shield that I traded for the Plus, and although the Gen-1 trigger didn't bother me, it was just a little bit gritty and unpredictable. My experience with the Plus trigger is different. No grit or mush, stageable right to the wall, and a crisp break, same place every time, with a solid reset. I love it. But, then, I don't have your experience, either, and I'm sure there must be better out there. But, for me, I've found that the Plus fits my hand better than the Gen-1, has better texturing, has a more controllable recoil impulse, and with solid accuracy, and was, most importantly for this retiree, affordable. Just checked my spreadsheet, and I have 535 actual rounds through the Plus, with zero issues, and multiple brands of ammo, from the cheapest steel, to JHP carry ammo. Absolutely love it, and have added the 15-round Equalizer/Shield Plus mag as backup, giving me 10, 13, and 15 in an easily concealable package. I'll keep this one forever. A terrific review, as always, and I too will be interested to hear Miss Tia's impressions, after also being a Shield-1 carrier.
I'm 73 years old. I've had plenty of carry pistols in my time. In fact, I carried a Colt Detective Special for over 20 years. I've carried the Original Glock in the 80's when Gaston Glock first introduced the Glock 19 to the NYC Police Dept. I was a NYC police officer for 20 years. I tried carrying a 1911 after I retired in 1994. But, found it was just too big for my 5' 7" frame. I carried the S&W M&P Compact for a few years. It was a good, reliable firearm. I then went with the M&P Shield 2.0. Hated the trigger. I now carry the Shield Plus. I love the magazine capacity, the trigger is fantastic, the grip is far better that the Compact, that was so grippy that my outer garment would cling to it. And the accuracy is spot on. I've trained myself with red dots. So I have no problems with my aging eyes.
I have my Shield Plus and my full size M&P 2.0 love them both.
Same here
This gun will serve 99 percent of people well. I have one in 9mm. I walk 5 plus miles every night on my secluded road. I really liked my 380 bodyguard for pocket carry for years but after watching many hollow point gel test I concluded only a handful expanded reliably. So I upped to this. It’s max size for me for pocket carry. That said I barely notice it in jeans . I’m 6’2 175 and I would say with the safety option and pc ported it’s a great pocket carry gun if a guys big enough swing it:) 14 rds of 9mm Norma monolithic will scare anyone off if my face doesn’t:) The ported barrel shoots as easy as my bodyguard 380 it seems. I been carrying since 2007 and it’s the best balance of firepower I have owned
I purchased the M&P shield plus a month ago as my daily carry. I'm retired law enforcement which makes me CCW legal in California. I'm working on gripping the weapon properly to correct the rounds from all hitting left. I'm getting a little batter with practice. My earlier weapon was the Ruger LC-9 with the laser pointer, I carried what weapon for the past 10 years. 😋
Love my shield plus. You were probably shooting left because the shield plus has a very skinny grip and you have a large hands. I have very big hands and I put a hogue grip on it and that fixed the issue. Now i can grip it comfortably. Its very accurate, reliable and the trigger is 💋
I have a lot of micro compacts and this is one of my favorites, very reliable and shoots well.
You are one of my three top favorite firearms TH-cam channels. Your education, knowledge, expertise, and experience are so evident. You truly make the best assessments and reviews, and you also offer invaluable information and guidance to us, gun owners.
This review about the S&W Shield Plus is a textbook example of the quality of your work. Thank you, GB! 🇺🇸
Thank you!
@@GBGuns sincerely!
Mine too. Technical info with proof by highly educated/experience shooters. I especially appreciate when she shoots with her smaller hands and gives her opinion as my hands are also Medium and grip strength lower. Several channels appear to fake the range distance so they can pretend they can group well. For this pistol, I bought one the day they came out and compared to PPS, Micro 9, and PF9. Shield plus accuracy good, but grip too rough for me, mag-stop too hard to release, trigger too weird as it reset to middle of trigger guard, while PPS stayed back on last round giving me another indication of being out. They thought I was nutz when I sold it back to gun store and they did not want it on their shelf while selling new ones.
Totally agree. Nice to get a straightforward no nonsense review without watching a guy running around in a bunch of tactical gear shooting as fast as he can. While that's also fun, most of us don't have the time or money to get that much experience.
@@idonot123 some people are gullible and fall for the pretenders. Unfortunately, those pretenders get thousands of followers duped into the shock and awe show for effect.
I'm saying this before watching. I bet this makes it through the "what's for dinner" flawlessly. These things run everything......
Edit: I'd love to see you get an FN Reflex and test it. I'm considering buying one but I'll wait for your review.
I’m disappointed you didn’t love it. I do very well with it. If you train with it, you fall in love with it. The grip is made for us guys. And as you showed, it does not fail.
We all have different tastes and hands. Fortunately there are many options to chose from.
Get a Maglula to top off the magazine. Plunger the stack until the spring seats and the last two rounds can slide in.
The S&W M&P Shield Plus is an Excellent EDC pistol. I love shooting it!
I’ve watched tons of reviews on this gun and your review is the first that I heard of someone not liking the trigger. Most say that the plus trigger is a great trigger and better than other S&W triggers. Interesting.
All I have is my experience with a few hundred pistols to go off of. It may also be that those reviews were early samples sent to reviewers whereas this is a pistol I purchased after the gun had been out for a while.
I carried the first gen shield for a long time and actually used it as a trade in for the plus.The trigger is a definite upgrade from the original and mine especially after break in is good even in comparison to the apex trigger I have on my 2.0 compact( not apex goog) but closer) As for the mags I didn't have any issues loading full 13 rounds outside of normal break in as well. Great gun for sure.
Yesterday I sold my G43x MOS after 4 months of owning it and putting way too much into it. It was a super nice pistol that I shot fairly well considering I'm not a Glock guy.
I just couldn't adjust to the grip angle searching for the optic reticle. So off to a new owner it went.
After agonizing over the seeming endless options of the small 9s, I ended getting this Shield Plus in 9mm. It was the one I was least interested in until I weighed everything out and felt it in the hand.
Strong capacity, great reliability, really comfortable in the hand, excellent trigger, like really excellent in terms of what it is. maybe Graham has a lemon. Cheapish mags, optics ready, strong aftermarket support and at $449 I think it's the best value overall.
I put a new Veridian rfx15 green optic on it (very good value) and put 200 rounds through it today. Zero failures, albeit 3 types of 115 range ammo. The speed in which the gun broke in was shocking to me. After the first 50 rounds the trigger was already smoothing out and the slide was loosening up nicely. Also when I bring the gun up, the optic is right there where it should be.
I will say, I have big hands, and it's a bit less to hold onto than the Glock, or a Hellcat pro, but with a little training it will be fine. I was shooting 2" groups at 7 yds by my third magazine. It's also maybe a tad bit more snappy than the Glock but not as much as the Hellcat or the 365.
I've concluded that none of these little guns are really easy or fun to shoot. I do wish it was a 3.5 barrel to help with the snappiness.
I think that 99% of the people buying a CCW would be well served to go with the shield, it's small but not too small, it's accurate if you do your part for sure, and at $450 optics ready I think it's probably the best value unless you go the Taurus line.
I Bought a S&W 9mm Shield plus for $399.99 new. I also have a S&W 9mm Shield. After upgrading the trigger it shoots as good as my Shield Plus. I am keeping both.
I just came across this video and thought you do excellent testing and I appreciate your hard work. My experience has been terrific with the Shield Plus. For a five hundred dollar gun with the reliability and accuracy as well as 15 rounds is simply incredible. I use to carry a Ruger LCP2 due to small size and going up in size to the Shield Plus is a game changer. I have found the trigger to be fine.
This is what I carry. And yes, I shoot low and left very often. I usually give it more knuckle.
Since you asked at the end why did we get it and what do we think about it, here are my answers.
1) Why I got it: I got the Glock 43 when it came out to be a backup. 6 + 1 was fine at the time for that purpose. My g27 was a sometimes backup and my CCW. As mag extensions came out for the 43 that became my primary CCW. I had shot the original shield when it came out and liked it. But wasnt going to purchace it for the one extra round.
Fast forward to now and the evolution of the 9mm CCW options and their better capacities, the g43 was becoming outdated. I liked the options of the small 9's having standard capacities exceeding 10. I held back for awhile as the competion rushed to outdo each other till a month ago. After reviews, handling, and researching ( a new option for the plus beating the competitors).... I picked up the Shield Plus Performance Center ported model. 10 or 13 +1...... And now the 15 round mag of the equalizer that fits it ( which is stamped shield plus on the base plate). To me that changed the game.
2) What do i think about it? :
I have not found any of the trigger issues you were experiencing an addressing. The trigger in mine works perfectly and smoothly. I did not like the factory fiber optic sites, possibly because all of the pistols I carry I put the same sites on, the XS sites. Since these are defensive tools for me I like the fast acquisition of that big front site, and having the same site picture from pistol to pistol they are just second nature. I shoot the shield plus as well as my g43 gen 1. And with the magazine capacity options, That modernized my ccw carry option of the micro 9, to current day standards if not better.
For the defensive purposes it will serve I find it to shoot great, accurate, the trigger is way better than my g43, and the capacity options are much improved as well. I am new to having porting on a barrel, but it does seem to help a little with the muzzle flip on a 3.1 in barrel 9mm. I found no negative aspects some talk about other than a little more cleaning to do after a range session.
I did like the other choices out there. But this model of the plus and that 15 round magazine option caught my attention. So after 500 rounds or so, sights I like, and working with the 3 magazines, I totally enjoy this CCW as a great EDC and it meets my needs for those purposes. And of course when the situation is permissible and practical or warranted, like most of you I will carry a larger frame.
Stay safe !
The shield is awesome. If somebody doesnt like it then they are the problem. This is the first gun i could tell you didnt want to like
Love my Shield Plus. One of my favorites in my carry rotation. Everyone is different, I happen to like the trigger on mine.
I wouldn't say I didn't want to like it, but I did start the review with already having experience with the model.
Appreciate the demo & data. I have to agree. That anomaly with the 357 might cause a pause and consider with the 1370s fps. A fellow might put a couple more over chrono to confirm that velocity. But I have seen 158 handloads exceed 1500with 8 3/8 barrels. So it is feasible. Thank you.
Thank you GB for this review. I recently purchased this gun as my EDC and here is why. The grip angle, dimensions and texture fit my hand perfectly for draw, aim and fire of three rapid shots at 5-7 yards. The weight, capacity/grip length, holster availability and price ($50 rebate helped) were all supporting positive factors as well. I rented and shot many other guns as I could get my hands on in a three month period. The only guns that was in consideration that I did not fire was the Mossberg MC2C and the Canik MC9. The lack of availability to even see in person was a major factor in not choosing the Mossberg. Not choosing the Canik was due to my experience with the grip on two previous Caniks and my performance with them. I have owned two full size Canik’s, and two Taurus revolvers since entering the self defense world in 2020. Your assessment of the trigger is spot on. While other TH-camrs are raving about this Shield trigger, I agree it is not a major selling point for this gun. However it is an improvement over the old, which I did shoot. If the trigger is an issue for you, get the Canik. I preferred the grip on the Shield and the performance it gave me as I stated before. I chose the Tulster Profile for IWB and Tulster Contour for OWB. I wear at the 3:30 position. Comfort is fine for 4-6 hours for IWB and 8-12 hours for OWB.
I meant to say if the trigger is an issue for ANYONE (not you) then choose the Canik. Obviously you have the MC9 since you did a video in that.😂
Great video. After shooting many different pistols in this sub-compact class and watching many reviews, I ended up recently buying this same Shield Plus as my first CCW gun.
In terms of the way it fit my hand, manageable recoil, accuracy, size, trigger and price, I liked it better than the Sig P365, Springfield Hellcat Pro, Glock 43X and Canik MC9 which I shot. I think the trigger is decent, but nowhere near my Walther PDP-F.
The issue I have with the gun, is that I brought it home from the store and took it to the range the next day and put about 100 rounds of different ammo through it and it shot great for me; I was very happy with it. The next day I want to take it apart to clean it, I was unable to get the slide off of the gun. I tried everything I could get it off and it would not work (this isn't my first pistol). Took it back to the store where I bought it and they couldn't get the slide off either, and said I had to contact S&W to be fixed. Seriously? I contacted S&W, and they said yes, it needs to be sent back to them, and it will take 8 weeks to be repaired. UGH! So I had to send a brand new gun back to them which I had for less then a week, and now wait 8 weeks for it to be repaired, I am NOT very happy (got about 3 more weeks left to wait). Upon doing internet research, I found a lot of other people who are having this exact same issues with new S&W guns. Now I'm regretting the purchase and wishing I went with the Hellcat Pro, which was probably my second choice. Aside from this stupid issue, I really do like the gun. Thanks again for the great and information.
Mr Baates, I appreciate all of your videos and real world practicality when performing your reviews. So Thanks to you and Teya. Side note, I only stumbled on this video from the tabletop review and it says its unlisted. I tried searching for it on your page and it didnt come up. Not sure what "unlisted" means, but thought you should know.
Thanks for watching out. An "unlisted" video is one that I haven't published yet. New videos go first to our Patrons, then into articles and as a card (easter egg) in existing videos, then lastly I release them for the general audience. You found an easter egg! Typically our videos are uploaded days to months before they are public.
Just bought the 3.1 performance center last week and I'm pretty happy with it. Also bought the 15 round magazine. I couldn't get more than 12 in the 13 round mag, but the trigger seems to be much better.
I couldn't get the 13th round in my mag and just went to buy a loader like an uplula and no more worries.
@@beethao3134 I did the same, although I did crush a round trying to fit it in
Yes sir, love the ported barrel 🔥 🔥
I got the optics ready version with tritium sights. Irons are not as on target as I would like them to be, but are usable. The slide release I had to exercise through a hundred cycles or so before it really became usable. The mags are an absolute bear to load when new, but they do get better over time.
Mainly got it for size and the fact that it was known as being solidly reliable as a CCW. Plus it came in a bundle with 5 mags/optics ready/trit sights for the price of some other options I was looking at with only 2 mags and no other features included.
Started shooting 5 years ago, shot around 30K plus at the range & in IDPA and ASI competitions. Have several 9mm pistols, and have shot 2 to death. OEM's replace them with new & better replacement pistols. Have the LCP2 380, Kimber Micro 9, P365, P365XL, S&W PC Shield Plus 4" ported barrel, Rugers SR9C & Security 9, 1st Gen CZ P10C replaced with a 2nd Gen P10C, Springfield XDM 4.5", Glock 20 with KKM barrel, Springfield Ronin Elite 10 mm 1911. And of all these pistols, my Shield Plus to me shoots very accurately, & is about as equal to the 10 mm 1911 Ronin Elite with its fantastic trigger. The Shield Plus with its ported 4" barrel has low recoil, coupled with the fiber optic sights and PC crisp trigger is really easy to puts shots on target. Noticeably better than my P365XL & equal to my 2nd Gen P10C. But I pocket carry the P365 because of it being small, lightweight, and fairly accurate for its size, easy to shoot all day, and is reliable as well. Sig hit a home run with this one as the rest of my pistols stay at home.
I carry an Original Shield Performance Center. My accuracy is about like yours!! ( I am not as strong a shooter as you are. I am older and weaker) I have found My Performance Center Definitively performs better than a regular Shield!! I have Talon grips Granular !! Talon Grips Definitely Make a Difference in reducing my group size. I think a Shield Plus Performance Center (ported Barrel) With Talon Grips would definitely up your opinion on this firearm. Crisper trigger, less muzzle flip and less movement in the hand, left and up. I believe you would be most impressed with this performance. I hope you get to test one of these someday!!. This is just a one person comment!! Not a criticism or your very balanced review. I enjoy your Reviews and place a lot of Creedence in your opinions!! Thanks for your reviews!!
For me the Shield Plus I have is the performance center gun so its ported with the fiber optic sights. I always use the extended mag all the time. The trigger is better that the older S&W M&P's Ive used at least. I use it over the Sig P365 which I thought was total garbage because it broke after 6 rounds. I appreciate your honest review.
I chose it because it was far better for me that the P365 which we had owned a while before buying it. To me I didn't have any CCW aside from a 1990's era Sig P225 so something smaller with more rounds was nicer for me. The trigger issue I never noticed but I don't think I pay that much attention to it to be honest.
Hey Graham another informative video, great job. I wanted to throw my two cents in on the micro compact trend. I carry a Ruger LCP Max in the summer. Twelve round extended mag and a spare in one of those Neo Mag pocket clips. It’s a perfect pocket gun, but I also have large hands so I had to adjust my shooting style. I found that I had better practical accuracy one handed. I was pulling low left with a two hand grip, but I trained long enough one handed to get descent self defense groups. I’m sure you’ll agree that you will sacrifice some benefits to gain others. In my case I wanted a comfortable summer carry but I lost velocity and had to adjust my technique. You gotta train with what you got. Also the Maybeline joke got me pretty good 😂. Thanks dude!
Good points about changing shooting method. Also glad to hear someone else was haunted by those "maybe it's" commercials a decade or three ago.
I love my shield plus my fav little pistol to carry n it shoots good
Every pistol I’ve bought in the last 45 years I have replaced the trigger in them all except for my 1911. And I have polished them till they work for me. But ever glock smith and sig CZ have had serious trigger work. And new sights are mandatory on these pistol’s. Other than that they are great pistols I still carry a gen 1 shield I’m ok with 8 rounds plus a 8 round magazine.
I loved everything you said! I’ve made upgrades on just about every handgun I’ve ever owned. Better trigger and sights are usually a must. I’ve been thinking about going back to my original Shield lately and selling my Shield Plus. The thoroughly broke in Apex trigger in the original is still slightly better than Smith’s new trigger in the Plus. Plus, I’m a little sentimental about the original since I carried it for so many years.
Appreciate the second camera. Thumbs up
Thank our Patrons, they're the ones that made it possible. We're crowd-funded.
The stock trigger had a weak reset . An Apex Tactical trigger kit makes it one sweet gun plus I like the Apex Trigger shoe.
I am a big fan. I found a deal too good to pass up. Great for summer carry and more accurate than some bigger options.
P.S. As far as you only getting 11 rounds in the 13 rd. magazine, there is a video out there showing that there is a problem with the spring seating correctly in the mag. I have 3 13 rd. mags and have no problem with any to hold 13 rds. It does take a Uplula loader to get the 13 rd. in. I would not want to be without the Uplula loader for loading any of my magazines whether it be for my P365 or my Glock 20.
S&W is sending replacement mags if you have a defective one.
I have the pc 4 inch model with the red dot. It works great and I didnt have any issue with the trigger.
I don’t mind the unpredictable trigger it helps me for my flinching from the recoil 😂😮😅
I had the same trouble with the S&W 13 round magazines for my Shield Plus but I figured out that the mag spring was hanging up on the follower. I took them apart and used my pocket knife to shave a little plastic off the lip that was hanging up on the spring and now they all fit 13 rounds, no problem. It's a design flaw and hopefully they fix it on new magazines.
Alright, I gotta ask: Where's Ms Teya?
Hope you had a good time in Europe!
You are the only guy I've watched give a review on the shield plus that did not like the trigger, to each they're own
Yup, we're all entitled to an opinion. Mine is based on having reviewed more than 400 handguns and spent more than 50 days in serious training courses.
You need to check your gun. Closer Sir. Different trigger. In the Plus. Much better than old Shield. I think somebody had a Preconceived idea. About the gun. Going into this Review. It shows . JS
I mentioned the trigger in the tabletop. I was referring to the feel of the pull, and referring to previous experience with a different Shield Plus of the same model
Better than the old trigger? Yes but that doesn't mean it's a great trigger. I have a shield plus and I like my sig more
I am a bit biased toward S&W. I have been purchasing Smith firearms since 1985 with a Mod. 29 and a # of N frame Smiths to follow the next few years. Our family has had a good # of M&P offerings including Shields. My daughter replaced her Shield 45 with a Ruger Max9 over the Shield Plus. She almost bought the P365 but again chose the Max9 over it also. No regrets. But there are still a plenty of M&P edc in the family. Thank you.
I really like mine, shoot it well, comfortable to carry, etc. That said, I think they should've just gone with a 12 round extended magazine. I can load 13 in mine (barely), but it's a real bear to seat it and rack the slide.
Mine should be here this week. Had the M2.0 and glad to have two more rounds (I'm in Mass) and no hinged trigger anymore.
Magguts makes possibly the best retro fit extensions on the market. Mags that I’ve swapped the springs over in haven been more reliable than the stock mag springs.
I am really surprised you find the trigger to be an issue with accuracy, many reviews out there including my own experience say the trigger is amazing. I m not sure, it could be subjective to everyone's own experience. I have seen people that say the Hellcat is a great gun, and for me I can't hit the broad side of a barn with it so you never know.
This guy is finding every reason to say why he doesn’t like it instead of just saying yea I like it even if I said bad things about micro 9s in the past
Why are you doing that?
I started out with a Smith & Wesson M .20 right out of the box. I was shooting very well and that was with a hinged trigger but I wanted the shield plus because of more rounds not for the trigger. But let me tell you the gun shot just fine, no issues with the trigger so both guns I can shoot just fine and I am not a competition shooter. I could not hit anything with a Glock but with this gun I shot very well I don’t have real big hands like you do but it seems to me like, the shield plus has a very good handle for my hand and I am able to shoot it very well. I also went with the plus I mounted an optic on it and it still shoots excellent this is just my opinion, but what I think a lot of different people miss sometimes is that everybody has different hand sizes and maybe the shield just isn’t gonna work for them, but it works for me and ultimately at the end it’s to defend my life and whatever gun anyone chooses to defend your life. It’s a crazy world now everybody stay safe.
For me the trigger is much more improved Vs the hinged design for me I like the feel n break on the shield plus! I shoot it better then my 365 XL!
I have big hands too Graham. I've had to do a lot more continued practice with my shield 40 m2.0 performance center. I have found some success shooting revolver style, with my trigger index finger hanging well over and outside of the trigger guard. I love it for everyday carry, for the same reason I find it difficult to actually shoot. I want to try the plus in 9
What's for dinner was 1000 rounds wt NO FTF or FTE ...No complaints from this owner.
Man, for as many people you say who asked about this, its sucks I'm only the 9th like and 6th comment...out of over 120,000 views.
Thanks for the time you took to do this by yourself...in the rain.
Appreciate you!👍
Thank you. This video isn't published yet and that's why it has few views.
@@GBGuns Oh, well good luck to with that!
I really enjoyed the Shooting Impressions video, and the time to took to do that and share it with us.
Well done Sir!👍
Be safe brother!🇺🇲👍🇺🇲✌️🇺🇲
I just put the first 50 rounds through my Shield Plus and I have found that I actually prefer the Shield 2.0 for comfort and accuracy. I am not sure if it is the sights on the Shield Plus but I struggled to put shots on target today when on previous outings with the Shield 2.0 I had incredible accuracy. I am going to put another 50 rounds through the Plus and see if I can get some better groupings but I may actually move back to the 2.0 for my EDC if the accuracy does not improve. Thanks for your review and information.
Can we get a Mete MC9 Vs M&P Shield Plus Vs Glock 43x video from you please? 🙏 😊 love your reviews b.t.w.❤
Really enjoy your videos. I've got the plain Jane 4 inch PC model and it's a good shooter but not my favorite.
Thank you
There is a reason they packed a uplula in with the equalizer
Try the performance center shield plus with the upgraded trigger
My Shield Plus Trigger is not like yours at all.
And also I have no problem getting 13 rounds in the magazine.
I use a loader on the magazines and can easily get all 13 rounds in all 4 of magazines. I’m old so I gotta use one.
For some reason mine also kept grouping to the left. Also my magazine had play and it just drove me nuts. Traded it for a Glock 😊
gotta try the performance center version better trigger n less recoil
Oh on the mags , I loaded 12 into mine and let it sit overnight, and then I was able to stuff 13 into with a lulu loader.
There are some shield plus mags that you cannot load more than 10 or 11 rounds. Buy shield plus mags from another seller and you’ll be able to load it all the way. It’s a hit or miss. I think S&W did miss some QC steps for mag springs. Same with the slide release too or probably the follower design of the mags.
It’s a nice 9mm gun and I spend more thousand rounds,but lately ,I use 13 round mags,sometimes about six shoots I pulled the trigger,not even touching the wall ,it’s goes off,I don’t know ,the same as my 40 mm,probably it’s my fault ,that’s why I got the Hellcat Pro now.
I get the feeling of being “uninspired” by a gun. I felt that way about the M&P lineup for a long time. I overlooked the Shield series for a long time, after shooting an original Shield when they were new alongside a rented Glock (the guy at the gun counter insisted I try it, and I wouldn’t ever refuse a free range rental). I thought it was kind of okay with a subpar trigger.
That said, I tried out a Shield Plus alongside a Canik MC9 recently and, while I liked the Canik, I actually shot the Shield very slightly better and I was impressed with how far the trigger has come. Sometimes functionality has to supercede personal biases, and while I still don’t feel any particular affinity for the Shield Plus aesthetically and I wish it had another half inch of barrel to put it in my “sweet spot” for IWB carry, it is a great shooter in my hands and I have an optic ready one with night sights on order now.
Though if it weren’t for the reliability issues, I definitely would have opted for the Canik. The trigger in that thing was feeling slightly better.
It’s a very good trigger and is very predictable. The initial kick out is probably just confusing you since you haven’t spent enough time with it and that kick out isn’t the reset but a little passed it. But it’s always consistent in my experience.
Well he's shot "hundreds" of guns so there's nothing under the sun he's not familiar with...
the trigger to me is just “noticeable” while shooting, it’s definitely not “mushy”, id say it breaks like glass, you dont really know when its gonna pop but if you pull consistently on the trigger it will go bang everytime and to me that’s enough for edc, however glock is the best pistol hands down.
tested Shield Plus vs Hellcat Pro. Hands down Shield Plus worked better for me. Replaces my Glock 19, for conceal purposes only. The glock is a fantastic gun but certainly like trigger on the Shield better
My Shield Plus Optics Ready has a very good predictable trigger. Far better than and other striker fired pistol made by Smith and Wesson.
Great review, but the trigger, and the mags can be a QC concern. The sights probably are slightly off. Either way can be improved, and then reevaluated. ♠️🎩🎱🎯🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🌻🏵️🌼💮🏴☠️🏹
Did you try and flip the spring on the 13 round mag? May be backwards causing the mag loaded short.
Strange. I have not had any issue fully loading my mags and the trigger is the best of just about any micro I have shot. It is also the best recoil control of any micro i have used. To each his own I guess.
It more to do with lack of hitting than lack of energy out of a 3 inch 9mm. As for the mag loading issues and the slide release issue and that "stiff" recoil from some of those 9mm rounds, try wrapping your ankles with rags soaked in turpentine.
I disagree about barrel length. We've tested a few different loads throughmymtiple barrel lengths. You lose speed and energy, the questions is can your defensive load perform as intended without the speed and energy?
Graham after shooting the pistol did notice any frame pin walk? thanks K
I haven't noticed, but also haven't looked at the gun since I shot it. When I take the photos for the article I'll take note.
I did
Thanks for another honest, unbiased and thorough review.....and I appreciate the lack of any political pandering and propaganda. Many of us come to these channels to learn something in an enjoyable manner....not to be lectured to by lying shills like Mrgunsnshill, Sootch and MAC. Please keep it up.
👍. Shield Plus 👍.
No problem loading 13+1 in mine. Man hands help. A little manual labor makes things easier. Mine is very accurate as well.
I found the shield plus to be the "softest" shooting micro 9, except for the X-macro. I found the hellcat, 365, mete MC9, G43x/48 and G4X all very "snappy" by comparison.
I also found the shield plus to be the best value as I could buy 2 for the price of one SIG and or 1 plus several boxes of ammo over the hellcat and G43x. Although the Taurus and mc9 are favorably priced, neither is very comfortable in my hand, with the Taurus actually a more accurate shooter for me over the MC9. I need to shoot a Ruger max 9 just because I haven't, although I did shoot an EC9S, which I also found to be snappy, but still rate it ahead of several others.
I am planning to shoot the MC9 more to see if it grows on me, because I really like the full size Caniks. I don't like the feel of the Elite, SC or MC, in my hand, even with the extended magazine, they just feel off, to me.
Hellcat Pro feels the best, if the recoil was more manageable, I would probably shoot it more, but...
Shield Plus with equalizer 15 rd mags, if I have to carry a 9 mm.
I’m on the wire. I’ve watched a lot of videos. Do I get the shield plus or the performance one? Is that much difference other than price?
I think you’d feel better if the Shield had some feed issues! Seemed like you’re looking for anything you could negatively find to bash it. It’s reliable, it’s easy to conceal, price point is right and it’s accurate. Trigger? Are you kidding? Nothing wrong with the trigger. Want a great trigger buy a4k Wilson 1911!
Or a .3k Tisas for a trigger more predictable than this. I'm sorry you feel so offended that I don't like the gun. Were you a part of the design team?
@@GBGuns Not offered at all, but just keep it real. I’ve never seen a shield choke, but seen plenty of sig320s have feed issues along with Gaston’s glocks. The trigger is what it is, it’s a 500 dollar gun that is super reliable, because when shit hits the fan that’s what matters the most!
Sorry, for what it is, an excellent gun in that size... trigger is pretty good IMHO
Thanks for finally reviewing the Shield Plus. I have a thought that might work for the other channel. Would I take this gun over X, Y, or Z comparison. Shield Plus, I'd take over the Taurus G4, but I'd take the Canik over this. Just a thought. Thanks, and keep bringing us these great reviews.
Something you need to know which was demonstrated by your 'what's for dinner' test if you review it. The Shield Plus likes heavier bullets. 124 and 147 will produce the best results. This is well known amongst owners of this pistol. Also - you comments regarding the trigger confuse me. Also, I have no issues with the 13rd mag. This is one of the only pistols with a solid standard capacity I can comfortably pocket carry with the right holster.
I have a plus and love it, You must have much larger pockets than I do. Be safe
Hi there. I live in FL and pocket carry 90% of the time. There is a whole gammet of kydex pocket holsters made for the Shield Plus which work great. I have the optics ready version with a CT red dot. It still fits comfortably in the front pocket of most of my shorts and jeans. I shop for pants and jeans specifically with pocket carry in mind though.
@@p40warhawk91 Please mention the name combo of your #1 combo, shorts/pocket Kydex holster. Being from south Louisiana, I can feel your pain. I dress around Ruger Max.
@@p40warhawk91 Thanks much
I like the brand . but the frame size is just not big enough , seems to be a great shooter though ..👍👍
I have XL hands and this fits me best of all the micros I tried. I also love the trigger and after shooting at least a couple of thousand rounds, truly don't understand the trigger complaints. I find the trigger more controllable than the P365, but I suspect part of that is that the Shield's deeper grip puts my finger on the trigger in a better spot.
I have seven 13 rnd mags. A couple were tight initially, but after leaving them fully loaded for a day or two, even those can be hand loaded to capacity.
I guess that's why they make lots of types of guns. Never seen this trigger feedback anywhere else. Seems to be an excellent trigger per most reviewers. So this just emphasizes for all of us to try to find stuff that works for us as an individual and don't just review shop. Obviously this gun isn't right for the reviewer, but it might be for others.
That's a point we've tried to make for ages and why our review format is a constant. Personal opinions still exist, but we let the gun speak for itself.
@@GBGuns I appreciate your carefully structured evaluations, it does help to minimize a shooter's perceived opinions (good or bad). The subject either shoots and functions well or it doesn't, and the presenter's opinion can be taken as a bonus - outside of objective performance. Would love to watch your review of the Beretta APX Centurion or the recent re-design (APX A1 Compact).