@@wallacelane4193just because you are strong enough to lift a mountain doesn't mean you can it would crumble under its wirght if you don't grab the entire thing or enough to stop it
@@theslayer1197 Iron Man can do it. We all know Homelander Did not want to put in no effort It too Plus he didn't save them, so he could make that speech. About it not happened again if he was in military. Or working for it..
@@theslayer1197 And plus if we're going by physics. He shouldn't be able to fly. And a train shouldn't be able to run that fast. Because there would be side effects.
The black eye doesn't necessarily mean he lacks a healing factor, but it simply isn't very fast. Given he is not deaf in one ear, he likely can regenerate to 100%, but it's just not super fast. He wouldn't grow a hand back same-day like Deadpool, but might take a month or two. Basically he cannot be crippled, and has to be killed outright, or he'll eventually return at full power.
I think with most supes with healing power they could regenerate lost teeth or damage to limbs/organs, but could regenerate entire ones, and could become an amputee like storefront did.
There's a season 2 deleted scene that was about him looking down on earth in the finale. So, it's definitely not a bluff on his part to impress Edgar by saying NY is beautiful from space. He can survive the space vaccuum which is pretty impressive, and Earth's escape velocity is mach 33. He's far more dangerous and powerful than people think
Isn’t escape velocity only the initial velocity needed to escape? If homelander is capable of accelerating constantly he wouldn’t need to move nearly that fast
@@seanbraley2772 Actually he does not. Not in a conventional way. Omni-man cannot breathe in space as well, but he can hold high breath for like…. few months or more
Correction for the plane scene. He was unable to lift the plane because of surface tension. If you apply a large amount of force to a small area, you will cut into it. It's how a knife cuts through objects instead of pushing them. Because the plane is falling, he would have to apply upward force to level it, which would cause his hands to "cut" into the plane instead of holding it, which would result it him flying through the plane. Physics was the factor that made it impossible, not his strength.
That isn't called surface tension, its something even simpler - pressure. Surface tension is the property of the surface of a liquid that allows it to resist an external force, due to the cohesive nature of the liquid molecules.
@@dragonl4d216 the concept of surface tension also appears in solid mechanics applications. Look up surface energy and surface stress, which are the analogs of surface tension. You and OP both correctly explained the physics of the situation.
2:30 I disagree. His reason for taking out air defense may have more to do with simply not liking to be hit with weapons of war, even if he is capable of surviving them. Being nukes might be very painful as well, even if he can survive it. Also, if he made himself palace to rule from it's not like he want his home and personal surroundings being destroyed. Think of being hit with a paintball gun. Yeah, you'll live, but it still isn't fun having welts all over you.
Or you know protecting his less durable fellow sups he’s prideful not stupid he knows wall he could basically rule on his own it’s easier with a army behind him
"Homelander embarrassed Starlight and announced a false sexuality without consent: as you can see, this man is very messed up." I think hes done WAY worse than that sir😳
*Read the comic-book. Homelander is 10,000% worse. The show depicts him perfectly but holds back with respect to his totally sick & depraved behavior exhibited in the comics.
“If he was invulnerable he wouldn’t need to take down air defences” bruh you ever hear of an inconvenience? If I step on a Lego I’m not gunna die but I’d still rather not do it, I very much imagine it’s the same thing. He’s gotta target something first to show humanity they can’t fight him so why not pick the thing that would be a minor inconvenience when flying around
1) a paint ball isn’t going to kill you but do you want to be hit by them constantly. 2) who says he took it down for him sups like the deep and a train are not bullet proof let alone rocket proof by removing them he keeps his underlings safe and makes the public feel fear he’s a arrogant ass but he’s not dumb
The whole "there hasn't been a weapon they haven't thrown at him" thing was likely a bluff by Madeline Stillwell. Vought does usually sell their stuff by making their superheroes appear to be a lot more powerful than they actually are.
Yes and no so I’m this case atleast he’s not just a in vitro baby he’s genetically engineered so they know how to make another one of he dies but the bigest thing is fall out they arnt going to hit him with a nuke or napalm couse it would effect the area around him but haveing the army hit him with a tank round or a tactical strike missile that I can see and the average person on the street wouldent be able to get their hands on that
Actually incorrect. Soldier Boy got field-tested by Russian soldiers (Russian Scientist refers to the field test of the same date when Tzar bomb detonated in real life). Solder Boy got knocked out on his ass, but he did survive Tzar bomb seemingly unscathed. Homelander is a better version of Soldier Boy, so… no
@@kingol4801 You completely made this up. Soldier Boy has never been hit by any thermonuclear nuke and tbe Tzar Bomb has been field-tested on October 30, 1961. John has been forcibly trafficked to the Russians in 1984.
@@kingol4801can't find any source on the tzar Bomba, plus Soldier boy by all evidence seems to be much more durable than homelander, just not as strong. All we've seen from Russians testing on him was chemicals, weapons, blowtorches and sorts like that
Homelander is not a natural-born supe though. He was given Compound V when he was still a fetus; his body reacted to the drug by giving him immense abilities due to his genetical link with Soldier Boy and by messing up with his genes they made him the only one able to produce super abled children, hence why Ryan is so highlighted by the show. He's aware of it and that's why he said to Maeve that if they had children, they'd be more powerful than his current son.
Wouldn't homelands be the first superabled birth from soldier boys nut? Maybe the injected compound v enhanced his abilities, but I would think he was a supe whether they gave him compound v or not
This has been debunked in gen v. Polarity's son seems to have the same powers as polarity. Super abled children are a thing, compound v or not. Homelander might also have another kid in an orphanage he knows nothing about. And i'm almost sure translucent's kid might be the R.A in gen V
There are a lot of different takes on Homelander's speed.. the C-4 explosion does place him at beyond Mach 23 speeds and I have seen a couple of discussions where his top flight speed was speculated to be around Mach 37.
@reisvanderpol5413 that's only using conventional physics and materials available to us. the ability to just magically fly makes that speed worthless.
@@friendlysnoworb6091 The speed would not exactly be worthless, but would not be required to reach escape velocity for space travel since a "superman" type being can continuously generate thrust instead of expending fuel trying to reach a non-decaying orbit. Good addition.
Greedy narcisstic a-holes are the next generation of the superhero genre. Aha. Are you out of your mind? Just spell for yourself the word S-u-p-e-r-h-e-r-o. Feel something?
I thought Homelander was given massive amounts of Compound V as a fetus, infant and child because he was able to withstand it and because they wanted to make him the most powerful supe ever. Ryan is the only 100% natural supe that we know of.
In the comics yes in the tv show they took a unknown donation from soldier boy one of the strongest sups ever then messed with the genetics to make him stronger
@@Michael-lu7xpStormfront is a man in the comics, but yeah, Homelander was created with some of Stormfront’s DNA instead of Soldier Boy’s like in the show. Soldier Boy is completely different personality-wise and has no blood ties to Homelander in the comics.
Not really HL was raised in a lab without parents so he is missing a tone of humanity From the get go he was told he was a "god" and that he was the peak of the humam race pretty much raised with the golden spoon but with no affection This is shown in the boys diabolical when on his 1st mission he tries to save people and had genuine good intent but it goes south and ultimately the fact that he doesn't think the same as those people is what lead to the shit show Im not saying a supe raised by a family would be significantly better as a person but they would have a better understanding of humans
@@stfu5013to think we would be anything else is delusional optimism. Our human history is tyranny, mass genocide, and self gratification just like Homelander gives out. The rest of his superhero team are very flawed bad people society fools themselves into worshipping non the less too. I think a Superman in our reality would kill people way more than Homelander when not endlessly making women pregnant. A Ghangis Khan that can fly and do all the other abilities is a terrifying thing to half imagine.
2:29 He didn't say "Air defences", he said "Any domestic defence capabilities" which he mentioned among the other things, all of them are insignificant to him, he just listed a menu to Starlight...
yeah this guy had a couple of mistakes in this vid. maybe none of those defense capabilities would be capable of killing him or severely injuring him, but they would still be annoying.
A friend of mine once said "superman is a good character if you believe you'd do the same as him with those powers" and I think the inverse is equally true of homelander: he's a good character because you hope you wouldn't do what he does with those powers
I'd takeover the world, make a new united government under my beliefs. Eventually the power would get to me and an ego would develope, believing my own lies that I'm a God
I think the biggest difference is that in the show Homelader's genes can actually successfully pass through another human, but in the comics they can't as Ryan dies seconds after he's born. So, Homelander might by slightly weaker in the show than he is in the comics.
In the comic's his invincible almost only black noir a clone of him can kill. Also he killls queen Maeve without breaking a sweat unlike in the tv show.
A scientist begins researching a tick. He orders it to jump, and it does just that. Then he proceeds to cut off the ticks legs and tells it to jump once more. It doesn't do it this time. So he notes: 'If you cut off a ticks legs, it can no longer hear.'. A basic summary of the logic used in making this video. 😂
Tf you're talking about, this video is very faithful, almost if not the entirely of facts stated on the video have a source directly from the show. It's pretty a summarize of Homelander and his power, that's the whole point. I don't see that they're trying to proof anything or exaggerated these facts.
@@statics1because his number 1 idol was standing right next to him and he was more interested in taking out soldier boy than to check on what he assumed was a normal dude.
Not many people understand that. Because Superman did it, but they don't get the fact that Superman actually alters tha physics around him or it's just a plot armour.
@@faizahmed588 Somewhat. In Superman Returns, he wasn't struggling to stop the plane. He was just slowing it down so it wouldn't break. We even see the airframe buckled at the force. Granted, every version is different to fit the story (some he projects his energy around the object). Even in that movie, there were some liberties taken as to the physics.
if hes strong enough he doesnt need to speed into the plane, he would just match its speed. The plane is designed to handle its on weight on small points, like the landing gear area, so he could easily grasp that area to control the planes descent if he had the strength.
Nope! Nope! Totally does. When the authorities that are supposed to protect you either do nothing or actively take part and experiment on you, you're their slave and they're your enemy.
Sometimes I wonder if Homelander is like Frieza from Dragon Ball where he was born powerful and never felt the need to become stronger as previously no one could challenge him But after Goku, Beerus and the tournament, he was forced to finally push his limits and train to become stronger. And he did. Frieza actually managed to push himself further than those he initially stood no chance against so I’m thinking Homelander may be similar Homelander is a big fish in a small pond, but if he actually needed to then he might actually be capable of becoming stronger, who knows
@@windghost2 also You Do Realize that Frieza even in Namike Saga! Understands his Place in the Universe and his Afraid of Beerus and Higher beings and doesn’t want try to mess with them! Also unlike Homelander Frieza knows how to Fight and Actually Trains and his Easily Way more intelligent and Calculating and Cold Hearted!!! But your Right he will Always be a Big Fish in a Small Pound! Homelander is literally that type of Guy to Rush in battle when he meets someone stronger and he gets killed off! Plus Homelander literally believes himself as Literally god himself both Figuratively and literally and how Nobody is Superior to him! But him in Dragon ball or Marvel and DC than he’ll Never be the Strongest! Also if you really think about Frieza and Homelander may be Similar but unlike Homelander Frieza isn’t the Strongest being in his Verse! And is Literally a Trained Warrior in Comparison and doesn’t view himself as God himself! As he Meet Real Gods!!! And is Of course Waaaaayyyyyy More Evil and Sadistic! In Comparison! If Homelander looks down the Everyone on Earth than Frieza would just view Homelander as a Filthy Earthling who thinks he’s the Strongest being Alive who thinks he’s some type of God! And Criticizing his lack of Combat Experience and skills also Frieza Doesn’t need to be Loved as he loves being Feared and Hated by Everyone! And we all know he’s Incapable of Loving and knowing Frieza he’ll hair Touture Homelander and the Seven Just because of Sadism and would give Homelander a Painful slow Death! Just cause it’s fun for him! While calling a a Filthy Earthling!!! Compared to an intergalactic Warlord!!!
@@user-adrsilva123 I agree with you. I'm just saying if John had the mindset for training, he would become stronger. But he won't do that since he believe he's fine as he is.
@@HalfHumanHalfgod lmao inaccurate ?! 🤣🤣 buddy thats where those characters came from , its the movies or Shows that have to be accurate to the comics , i dont think u rly know what that Word means
@My_pfp_beats_all_dog_breeds. no he didnt lmao , he got killed by the clone who even tho being a walking corpse easily tanked anti supe bullets like nothing
Personally i think the fight with soldier boy weakened him more than we think. If radiation nullifies the powers given by compound V or even completely removes them, no wonder homelander took damage from Maeve. Thats my theory anyway because no way Maeve is stronger than soldier boy.
In Marvel terms, I would put Soldier Boy at about the Thing's level and Maeve at about She-Hulk's. Slight advantage to the Thing, but not huge, and they could certainly still hurt or even kill each other. Using that scale I would put Homelander in the Thor or angry-Hulk category.
I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that thr supes are only getting more powerful as time goes on. Maeve could easily be stronger than solider boy whether from a better formula of V or just even better training.
You know, he still had a little bit of humanity left in him because he actually wanted to save the people in that plane but once he fried the plane's dashboard and all of the controls, he was like "well, not my problem anymore"
@@Wezlii530 Exactly, he only wanted to do it bc of what it gets him, not to help the ppl. He was just as fine w them dying bc it still got him smth he wanted.
He wanted to save the people on the plane because it would make him look good. If he had really cared about saving lives he would have taken as many as he could.
@@tigertubeipswich yeah but what I meant was that in season 1 he was not that mentally deranged yet...season by season he becomes more and more empty...like in season 3 when Soldier Boy "exploded" in the city and Starlight wanted to go and save the day, Homelander didn't care at all.
Could just be Superman, you are aware that Superman turned evil is pretty explored topic, right? Homelander just take it up a notch a Evil superman without an actual weakness and have a massive ego problem.
That doesn’t mean much, if Wonder Woman jammed a rod into Superman’s ear I guarantee you it would make him bleed. Just like zod was able hurt Superman with a steel beam. It’s all about who’s hitting you with the object, not the object itself in super hero works.
But bullets ping off his entire body like it's not even an inconvenience. He shows no fear of even getting hit in the face, mouth or eyes. He might not be as strong as Superman (or even Omni-Man), but that episode had some serious inconsistencies with his powers and power level.
Another fun fact is something that doesnt have to do with his powers but infact his tolerance for pain, despise never really working out or anything he still has a high pain tolerance from the abuse he suffered as a kid, heck like the video showed he just walked out of something so painful that it was affecting his son, and he didnt notice he was bleeding when mave punched him
There's also the difference between an adult man and a prepubescent boy. A healthy adult man could take a punch to the gut, for example, that would incapacitate a child or even cause serious injury. Same thing here. It hurt, but he could tolerate it. It hurt Ryan more, but on the other hand once it stopped he was fine. So partly it may just have been the shock factor. Kids often have exaggerated reactions to discomfort because they don't have much experience with it.
What's crazy, is that everyone forgets that Homelander is a "skinny", "average" guy that wears a muscle suit to appear buff to public. We see that in Season 3.
Adult Ryan will be FAR stronger than him,it will not even be remotely close The writers said he already has stronger heat vision than his father,its just his physical stats are still too weak due to his age. When your child can push you down at such an age and can withstand an all out blow from his almost as strong grandfather he is gonna be on a completely different level once he reaches full peak maturity.(which for males is mid to late 20s) Its likely that in order for Ryan vs Homelander to be a good fight and not onesided in Ryans favor they will have Ryan only be a teenager against his father,like 17 or 19 years old.And no,males arent fully developed at 18 years old. They simply usually stop growing noticaebly in height at that age,after that the body starts growing more in muscle
Not necessarily soldier boys base states are actually better then homelander just unstable on top of that it’s implied that home lander was genetically engineered as well as given boster doses of v Ryan is a natural child meaning a lot of his traits would have been effected by his mothers body during development add to that the fact that home lander knows over use of v cases health problems means Ryan is more then likely going to be weeker then his father but still pretty strong
@@seanbraley2772 Homelander is the show. If they allow him to get killed that's the end of the show. The writers have done an excellent job of with the script and Starr has murdered this role. The other main actors have performed well too.
Difference is, home lander was injected with compound V as a fetus, infant and toddler heavily due to being able to withstand due to his genetic ties with soldier boy, they also trained him in very “diabolical” ways, where as with Ryan, he was living with his mother up until home lander found him and hasn’t gone through what home lander has despite being the first natural supe. We don’t know how Ryan’s power will work until he grows because he’s the first natural supe in the show so how his powers work for him in terms of strength will be up to debate. I mean even home lander said that at Ryan’s age he was breaking the sound barrier so.
No not really every version of Superman even the darker ones like over man and ultra man are in there way moral it’s based on the morality they are taught growing up “Clark” has been told by his parents who ever they are you are no different then anyone eles you can do more but your still a person homelander on the other hand was raised to think he’s better then everyone norms and sups alike so his baseline thought process is differnt why should I obey a rule made by someone less then me I’m better then it
I think Soldierboy is Physically stronger than Homelander. Keep in mind their first encounter that Soldierboy was still significantly weakened by his blast before the fights. In the final episode they had to team up against him to restrain him.
@@LoveyDovyy in the show whenever soldier boy used his radiation blast he was always out of breath and visibly weaker, however I think that with given time he’ll be able to use the energy blast without taking as much of a toll on his body
I am just learning about this character, as I saw him in MK 1. He is quite messed up. I hope that storywriters can write a story there he can heal from the deep wounds of physical, emotional and spiritual trauma, which are the biggest reason he acts as he does. If he could do this, he would have been a real hero.
And Stormfront seemed to be strong, but given enough energy they are all mortal. What doesn't make sense is that bullets can't harm them, but Mave's punch can cause bleading?
Superman can fly fast enought to make the world turn backwards, has freeze breath, and was shown to be able to rebuild things like the great wall of china. So I would say no.
He explained why he could not take the plane to safety. It was more of poke at Superman for always being able to do this. If you don’t recall, it wasn’t him that was not strong enough. It was the outside of the of the plane.
Pretty much, the boys tries to be more grounded than Marvel and DC. If someone strong as Homelander tried to save a plane, they're just going to fly through the plane.
@@Anunnaki_Gula Even if that was true, if he was a decent hero he would have tried to save at least who he could tho. Literally just saving an armful of kids before the plane went down would have made him okay in most ppl's books.
Pure speculation but what if there was a first Supe? And not like Stormfront but someone the V came from that Vaught harnessed for Stormfront and the rest as a steroid for DNA. One story like this that was highly underrated was Hancock. The film describes his past as being incredibly old dating back to the beginning of existence and not being alone at first but having other superhumans to (pair up with) in order to become mortal, leaving Hancock alone essentially stuck with his abilities and agelessness. It would be interesting to see a Supe that maybe wasnt a Supe to being with but an actual god that was robbed of their DNA or Supe structure for scientists to use throughout history. Imagine the very first....coming back to take out Homelander.
3:48,.. he didn't say he was unable to carry the plane. He said it can't be done,.. which it can't. A plane is a tin foil can designed to spread its weight over the entire skin. If you put a point load on the plane, it would crumble.
Then you grab one of the reinforcing rings that are tied together with other straight members and in turn all the cabin seats and you fly with that thing in your grip.
@@_.Dave._ and there's literally three points the entire aircraft rests on, the frame the landing gear is attached to. He could have pulled from the front tire well into a glided landing. The only thing he damaged was computer controls.
I think when homelander said he’d take out air defenses I think he meant it more to cause absolute chaos and show the goverment that he’s always been using restraint and he could, at any time just destroy the military
I dont think air support would necessarily be his weakness, i assume he said them in those orders according to threat to us. Example, without aircrafts where are we going? Nowhere. Without internet and power, how would we know what's happening, or what country hes even in.
putting stuff in zinc boxes so homelander cant see through it, is not a very effective method of concealment. His curiosity will obviously rouse if he cant see through something as he will know that the box is obviously lined with zinc which is his only weakness and its been done so purposely.
There’s always a contingent in place if the Ubermensch go rogue. Batman probably has a whole fucking cave full of kryptonite just in case. Tony Stark built the Hulkbuster armor. In the graphic novel, Black Noir was the contingency plan for Homelander but that’s gone. I’d imagine it’ll either be a grown up Ryan or maybe Butcher will take a bunch of V and just go ham
Homelander was partially exposed to the radiation beam of Soldier Boy during their first fight. You know, when the three of them were holding him down. That's the reason he seemed so weak when he fought Maeve. That metal rod would not have done shit to him, much less pierce his ear drum, if he was at full strength.
Like that explanation, and might even consider it, however the whole point of soldier boys beam is that it burns the V right out of supes blood, of he hasn't already used the beam, it won't affect the supes most likely. If it did, that would mean soldier boy has a heat aura and would probably burn a lot of the things he touches due to his radioactive body
He isnt an alien or that type of being thats not from earth.Its hard to make Superman bleed but not homelander.Homelander is a human with Superman 's super powers.
Homelander is a big fish in a little pond. Simply put he hasn’t met an even match in a long time but once everything is said and done he’ll be reminded he is very much so Mortal, just like any other human.
Make another video about Homelander, please!!! Make a video about How Strong Is Homelander? Here's My Research: 1. Homelander is always so much stronger than everyone else. 2. Billy Butcher claimed that superhumans can swim across the Sun, where it can be over 27 million degrees Fahrenheit. 3. Homelander is superior to Stormfront, who can create tidal waves and hurricanes powerful enough to destroy entire villages and towns (8.6 Megatons of TNT City level). 4. Homelander is stronger than Tek-Knight, who's known to destroy an asteroid the size of Texas weigh over 4.6 qunitillion tons and entry speed of 11,200 meters per second, it can destroy the moon twice over (59 exatons of TNT Moon level). 5. Billy Butcher claimed that some Supes can outrun tachyons, which are theoretical particles that move faster than light (100,000x faster). 6. Homelander downscales from Black Noir, who survived 20,000 foot falls, and also withstand heat vision. 7. Homelander is said to be the strongest man in the whole world.
You do understand that all of those research points are based entirely on the comics, not on the show, and the show differs from the comics. First off, in the show Butcher did not even say any of those things, and Homelander hasn't done any of those things
@@bignoseandrewstill it goes to show that the comics are more consistent in power scaling than the show since of how other supes can easily fck up other supes while Homelander one-shotting someone like Black Noir should realistically make Homelander easily overpower Maeve but no, he got a f3cking nose bleed and a pipe straw was able to penetrate his ear.... how does that make any sense and considering how fast Homelander is in the show especially the diabolical EP. 8 being canon, he's basically almost able to stop time... there are no feats or said feats that has Soldier Boy or any other enhanced humans like Butcher to move that fast as Homelander considering that Homelander is even faster than any speedster both from ground and air
My theory about Maeve being able to jam a metal rod and give him a bloody nose. After the fight with hughie, soldier boy and butcher. Soldier boy was powering up that chest thing to take his powers. That might have weakened homelander.
I'mma he totally honest, if it's anyone who's gonna end him be it in s5, it would be soldier boy, Butcher might not be around until then if he doesn't take the permanent V
The metal rod thing doesn't make any sense. Regardless of how strong Maeve is, the metal piece should have broken when making contact with Homelander. I mean, Soldierboy who is weaker than him got shot into his mouth without any damage, even Translucent wasn't damaged by a bullet from a high caliber rifle shot at him during the first season
I have to disagree with what's said in 7:15. It was not Homelander's intervention, but the Stillwell's baby, who has ability to teleport. We can see it in the third season, in sups' orphanage, where the boy teleports and scares Hughie. The nanny said "Teddy Stillwell, we don't teleport" and took the boy away. th-cam.com/video/MLNC8QbzO2I/w-d-xo.html
My shot is that their (Billy's and Hughie's) powers after applying temporary Compound V are based on their nature; Billy is cold blooded hard hitter, filled with hate to Homelander, so his powers are similar to Homelander's powers; Hughie is the guy that used to run away, so his powers make him able to do so. It is also corresponding with their "role" in the team (attack/tank and support). I hope we will get more light on it in the next season or incoming spin-off. Btw, thanks for your video!
There's some superheroes who could easily defeat him. Those who have Mind Based powers like Brainstorm, Rufus (Gen V) and those with Persuasive abilities, like Kate from Gen V
I dislike how Maeve was and the others were so terrified of him but with one team up they managed to make him bleed. Either they nerfed him for plot or he wasn't as strong in the first place
Im guessing Homelander is roughly as powerful as your average supe (durability etc.) but he has really good powers, he can fly and he has laser eyes but he's still very limited
I rarely even remember to use protego. When going fast pace and having the red attacks I’ll use it for any time an attack in looming which it won’t work on. If I just dodge I can dodge everything. I know there are benefits to protego I just typically don’t bother with it
Homelander carries the team... if it ain't Homelander, then it don't make sense.. That's how interesting he is. Not to take away anything from the other characters they all good. But Homelander is good! better! best!!!.👍👍👍
He couldn’t lift the plane because the plane would have torn under the structural stress focused around the area of his body, not because he wasn’t strong enough to lift the plane.
I think homelander didnt really mean that New York looks amazing from space because he wouldn't be able to survive the cosmic rays, he probably just "went up into the atmosphere" which is short for space and not literal. If he did go to space he wouldn't have survived because solider boy's explosion power is a radiation bomb that forces the supes powers out of them. Which means cosmic radiation would have killed him.
I don't see Homelander as having a different physiology to a Human, but instead, like the Plutonian, being a psionic reality warper. However, his psionic abilities are much more nerfed heavily, having the durability equivalent of 1000mm of RHA and 1000,000 MPa.
Most flying bricks in superhero fiction are psionic entities whose strength , invulnerability, flight, and energy projection powers are expressions of matter or spacetime/gravity manipulation. The only difference between Plutonian and Superman is that Plutonians psionic abilities need no energy, whereas Superman's draws energy from the sun. Homelander probably pulls it out of the zero point. Mind reading and lifting objects by looking at them is not the only way psychic abilities can be expressed. Psionic abilities can be virtually anything. It's space magic, basically.@@ptolemeeselenion1542
@@johnysnoww3831 Homelander is far faster, but that doesn’t mean vought wants the world knowing that. Also, A-Train even at his peak was only Mach 1.5 give or take. You could make highball arguments for up to Mach 3, but that is as high as you can get. Homelander is casually Mach 25, and likely around twice that speed. It’s not even close.
@@johnysnoww3831 ….. Publicity. That is really it. Homelander is Superman’s parody. Superman is so strong that he does not NEED most of the Justice League around him. The Boys show is probably making fun of that and shows that the ONLY metahuman that is truly an issue among the Seven is Homelander. Everyone else is a lesser version that is being branded in a certain way and sold for PR. This is also the reason why Homelander in Season 1 does not want to go and see A-train’s laughable race. That is akin to a professional athlete going to observe kindergarten race among toddlers, lol
No, it's to equate Nazi "pride" with American patriotism. The usual "Wokeism" that "All white people and nations are potential/actual Nazis" in their minds.
Hes not the most powerful because you cannot stab a pencil in supermans ear ... Also his weakness would be a psychiatrist breaking his shit down ...until homelander kills himself
I thought the same. Amped up Jon Bernthal going full tilt rage with the same powers as Butcher and Cap getting amped up enough and maybe they could include him being gifted a vibranium suitmixed with stark tech
Except Soldier Boy is a super-nuclear threat. Captain without Mjolnir (essentially gifted Thor’s powers by Odin) is not even remotely on par with that.
About Soldier Boy and Homelander powers, their cell properties would be different. The cells should have some fixed properties: They should produce more cells only when those cells are somehow lost or destroyed such as being hit really hard by Butcher's laser beam, losing blood by getting punched really hard by homelander and having to produce more bone marrow to produce more blood cells etc. Because naturally his cells don't die unless there's a strong enough kinetic force or extreme temperature to kill them. They stubbornly stay together. And when they're damaged they're replaced with perfect replicas, no information is lost which explains why he doesn't age. Also this means he could get stronger much faster than the average human just like Invincible. He would damage the muscles by lifting enormous weights and the body would adapt and produce more muscle cells per square inch though there probably would be a limit for how strong he could get. They should have extremely strong bonds like graphene. The way I see it is overall his body has a higher number of cells per square inch more prominently in the muscles and bones which explains his super strength. It'd be required extremely high energies to pierce through those bonds thus explaining his durability. His body wouldn't need to keep producing more sex cells because they don't fall apart in his nuts lol. If he takes a wank the body just produces more. He would have indestructible sperm lmao. The hormones I believe would be very similar to normal humans. He would also need to produce enough blood to supply his super dense muscles. That would probably mean his heart would have to be bigger and pump harder or more frequently than humans which would explain their super stamina. That's more or less what I think compound V did to their anatomy. Let me know what you guys think of it I might be wrong at some things as the human body can be quite complex lol.
Show's Homelander is actually smarter than the comics version. He said some good reasons why he shouldn't attempt to lift the plane. While in comics, dude tried to change the plane's direction by hitting the plane from the tail at mach2.
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He was unable to lift the plane because he would only just puncture a hole if he did due to the speed and the surface he would touch on the plane.
@wallacelane4193 what he's saying is in those movies it's unrealistic because they are too small to cover the needed surface area
@@wallacelane4193just because you are strong enough to lift a mountain doesn't mean you can it would crumble under its wirght if you don't grab the entire thing or enough to stop it
@@theslayer1197 Iron Man can do it. We all know Homelander Did not want to put in no effort It too Plus he didn't save them, so he could make that speech. About it not happened again if he was in military. Or working for it..
@@theslayer1197 And plus if we're going by physics. He shouldn't be able to fly. And a train shouldn't be able to run that fast. Because there would be side effects.
@@wallacelane4193nah cuz a train has mad durability too but I agree with flying
The black eye doesn't necessarily mean he lacks a healing factor, but it simply isn't very fast. Given he is not deaf in one ear, he likely can regenerate to 100%, but it's just not super fast. He wouldn't grow a hand back same-day like Deadpool, but might take a month or two. Basically he cannot be crippled, and has to be killed outright, or he'll eventually return at full power.
He has a low regenerative healing factor.
I think with most supes with healing power they could regenerate lost teeth or damage to limbs/organs, but could regenerate entire ones, and could become an amputee like storefront did.
@@conan377 That definitely does sound like most supes, but Homelander isn't most supes.
Tv show wise he can’t regenerate so if he loses a hand he loses a hand
@@ptolemeeselenion1542 We all have low regenerative healing factor. Someone had to say it.
There's a season 2 deleted scene that was about him looking down on earth in the finale. So, it's definitely not a bluff on his part to impress Edgar by saying NY is beautiful from space. He can survive the space vaccuum which is pretty impressive, and Earth's escape velocity is mach 33. He's far more dangerous and powerful than people think
Wow.
Isn’t escape velocity only the initial velocity needed to escape? If homelander is capable of accelerating constantly he wouldn’t need to move nearly that fast
I guess that really should also tie to soldier boy being even more dangerous than we realize as well
I’d say lower orbit not space he still needs to breath
@@seanbraley2772 Actually he does not.
Not in a conventional way.
Omni-man cannot breathe in space as well, but he can hold high breath for like…. few months or more
Correction for the plane scene. He was unable to lift the plane because of surface tension. If you apply a large amount of force to a small area, you will cut into it. It's how a knife cuts through objects instead of pushing them. Because the plane is falling, he would have to apply upward force to level it, which would cause his hands to "cut" into the plane instead of holding it, which would result it him flying through the plane. Physics was the factor that made it impossible, not his strength.
That isn't called surface tension, its something even simpler - pressure. Surface tension is the property of the surface of a liquid that allows it to resist an external force, due to the cohesive nature of the liquid molecules.
@@dragonl4d216 the concept of surface tension also appears in solid mechanics applications. Look up surface energy and surface stress, which are the analogs of surface tension. You and OP both correctly explained the physics of the situation.
Which means he probably knows this through trial and error. Meaning he tried it before and it failed.
Antony Starr is so good in this role.
He's amazing in Banshee too.
Watch "BANSHEE" to see why he got this role.
Banshee definitely put him on the map. By far my favorite series I have seen yet.
Agreed, I still love re-watching Banshee for Anthony's performance.
A mad, single black mother could beat homelander. I bet he would never forget to take the chicken out for dinner lmao lol.
2:30 I disagree. His reason for taking out air defense may have more to do with simply not liking to be hit with weapons of war, even if he is capable of surviving them. Being nukes might be very painful as well, even if he can survive it. Also, if he made himself palace to rule from it's not like he want his home and personal surroundings being destroyed. Think of being hit with a paintball gun. Yeah, you'll live, but it still isn't fun having welts all over you.
Or you know protecting his less durable fellow sups he’s prideful not stupid he knows wall he could basically rule on his own it’s easier with a army behind him
Exactly.
Soldier Boy survived a Tzar bomb, but it for sure knocked him out and allowed Russian to re-capture him after the test
Trust me being hurt badly by a mere supe punch, he would not get up from a ballistic strike or a tank shell most likely
They would probably knock him out. Giving his enemies enough time to restrain him. The man's biggest fear is being locked up like a lab rat again
@@kingol4801 When was Soldier Boy exposed to the Czar Bomba? Wasn't he captured in the 80s? The Czar Bomba was tested in 1961.
"Homelander embarrassed Starlight and announced a false sexuality without consent: as you can see, this man is very messed up." I think hes done WAY worse than that sir😳
Bruh.
*Read the comic-book.
Homelander is 10,000% worse.
The show depicts him perfectly but holds back with respect to his totally sick & depraved behavior exhibited in the comics.
@@k.c.3567 YES, so I've heard, and the comics ending really reflects this
Yes but by our our first world standards, that is the worst thing to ever happen in the history of mankind. Worse than Hitler.
Except you missed the rest of the sentence and him saying Homelander is messed up could be in reference to him being basically a manchild.
“If he was invulnerable he wouldn’t need to take down air defences” bruh you ever hear of an inconvenience? If I step on a Lego I’m not gunna die but I’d still rather not do it, I very much imagine it’s the same thing. He’s gotta target something first to show humanity they can’t fight him so why not pick the thing that would be a minor inconvenience when flying around
1) a paint ball isn’t going to kill you but do you want to be hit by them constantly. 2) who says he took it down for him sups like the deep and a train are not bullet proof let alone rocket proof by removing them he keeps his underlings safe and makes the public feel fear he’s a arrogant ass but he’s not dumb
@@seanbraley2772 Bro just wanted to use the paintball analogy.
The whole "there hasn't been a weapon they haven't thrown at him" thing was likely a bluff by Madeline Stillwell. Vought does usually sell their stuff by making their superheroes appear to be a lot more powerful than they actually are.
Indeed.
Yes and no so I’m this case atleast he’s not just a in vitro baby he’s genetically engineered so they know how to make another one of he dies but the bigest thing is fall out they arnt going to hit him with a nuke or napalm couse it would effect the area around him but haveing the army hit him with a tank round or a tactical strike missile that I can see and the average person on the street wouldent be able to get their hands on that
Actually incorrect.
Soldier Boy got field-tested by Russian soldiers (Russian Scientist refers to the field test of the same date when Tzar bomb detonated in real life).
Solder Boy got knocked out on his ass, but he did survive Tzar bomb seemingly unscathed.
Homelander is a better version of Soldier Boy, so… no
@@kingol4801 You completely made this up. Soldier Boy has never been hit by any thermonuclear nuke and tbe Tzar Bomb has been field-tested on October 30, 1961. John has been forcibly trafficked to the Russians in 1984.
@@kingol4801can't find any source on the tzar Bomba, plus Soldier boy by all evidence seems to be much more durable than homelander, just not as strong. All we've seen from Russians testing on him was chemicals, weapons, blowtorches and sorts like that
Homelander is not a natural-born supe though. He was given Compound V when he was still a fetus; his body reacted to the drug by giving him immense abilities due to his genetical link with Soldier Boy and by messing up with his genes they made him the only one able to produce super abled children, hence why Ryan is so highlighted by the show. He's aware of it and that's why he said to Maeve that if they had children, they'd be more powerful than his current son.
Wouldn't homelands be the first superabled birth from soldier boys nut? Maybe the injected compound v enhanced his abilities, but I would think he was a supe whether they gave him compound v or not
So if there is one true natural born supe, that would be Ryan
@@DouglasZaniniand i believe it was stated by the show runners Ryan would eventually surpass Homelander in power.
Who the hell is eve
This has been debunked in gen v. Polarity's son seems to have the same powers as polarity. Super abled children are a thing, compound v or not. Homelander might also have another kid in an orphanage he knows nothing about. And i'm almost sure translucent's kid might be the R.A in gen V
Ego is as big a weakness as kryptonite is to Superman
There are a lot of different takes on Homelander's speed.. the C-4 explosion does place him at beyond Mach 23 speeds and I have seen a couple of discussions where his top flight speed was speculated to be around Mach 37.
Well you have to get to Mach 33 to escape the Earth's atmosphere and he says he's been to space so we can assume it's at least that fast.
@@reisvanderpol5413 Exactly. That was part of the speculation.
@reisvanderpol5413 that's only using conventional physics and materials available to us. the ability to just magically fly makes that speed worthless.
@@friendlysnoworb6091 The speed would not exactly be worthless, but would not be required to reach escape velocity for space travel since a "superman" type being can continuously generate thrust instead of expending fuel trying to reach a non-decaying orbit. Good addition.
@@mutanthybrid3466 to a superman type being a speed value like that is worthless, dude can fly up at .5kph and he'd still get to space
This is the next generation of the superhero genre. Overall great reception.
Greedy narcisstic a-holes are the next generation of the superhero genre. Aha. Are you out of your mind? Just spell for yourself the word S-u-p-e-r-h-e-r-o. Feel something?
I thought Homelander was given massive amounts of Compound V as a fetus, infant and child because he was able to withstand it and because they wanted to make him the most powerful supe ever. Ryan is the only 100% natural supe that we know of.
In the comics yes in the tv show they took a unknown donation from soldier boy one of the strongest sups ever then messed with the genetics to make him stronger
It is implied that he is the seed of Soldier Boy and Storm front.
@@Demsky83 so he banged his mom?
@@Demsky83 yeah I'm pretty sure in the comics stormfront is his mother but not the tv show
@@Michael-lu7xpStormfront is a man in the comics, but yeah, Homelander was created with some of Stormfront’s DNA instead of Soldier Boy’s like in the show. Soldier Boy is completely different personality-wise and has no blood ties to Homelander in the comics.
Homelander is an extremely accurate representation of what superheroes would be like, if they were real.
nah, he is the accurate representation of what people behind a power can be
Not really
HL was raised in a lab without parents so he is missing a tone of humanity
From the get go he was told he was a "god" and that he was the peak of the humam race pretty much raised with the golden spoon but with no affection
This is shown in the boys diabolical when on his 1st mission he tries to save people and had genuine good intent but it goes south and ultimately the fact that he doesn't think the same as those people is what lead to the shit show
Im not saying a supe raised by a family would be significantly better as a person but they would have a better understanding of humans
@@stfu5013to think we would be anything else is delusional optimism. Our human history is tyranny, mass genocide, and self gratification just like Homelander gives out.
The rest of his superhero team are very flawed bad people society fools themselves into worshipping non the less too.
I think a Superman in our reality would kill people way more than Homelander when not endlessly making women pregnant.
A Ghangis Khan that can fly and do all the other abilities is a terrifying thing to half imagine.
Wrong. Silly statement.
if you have a mental illness and have superpowers yes thats accurate representation.
He said he would knock out defense systems not because he is vulnerable. Its because he wants humanity feel defenseless.
2:29 He didn't say "Air defences", he said "Any domestic defence capabilities" which he mentioned among the other things, all of them are insignificant to him, he just listed a menu to Starlight...
yeah this guy had a couple of mistakes in this vid. maybe none of those defense capabilities would be capable of killing him or severely injuring him, but they would still be annoying.
Listen at 8:00
A friend of mine once said "superman is a good character if you believe you'd do the same as him with those powers" and I think the inverse is equally true of homelander: he's a good character because you hope you wouldn't do what he does with those powers
I'd takeover the world, make a new united government under my beliefs. Eventually the power would get to me and an ego would develope, believing my own lies that I'm a God
what batman thought in bvs
I think the biggest difference is that in the show Homelader's genes can actually successfully pass through another human, but in the comics they can't as Ryan dies seconds after he's born. So, Homelander might by slightly weaker in the show than he is in the comics.
what do these two statements have anything to do with one another?
or maybe Ryan is weaker in comics 🌝
Butcher killed him when he was a fetus@@jooxlyon362
In the comic's his invincible almost only black noir a clone of him can kill. Also he killls queen Maeve without breaking a sweat unlike in the tv show.
Homies child in comics dies in second because Billy takes lamp on it
just because hes invulnerable to air defenses. Doesnt mean they arent annoying to him or doesnt sting.
A scientist begins researching a tick. He orders it to jump, and it does just that. Then he proceeds to cut off the ticks legs and tells it to jump once more. It doesn't do it this time. So he notes:
'If you cut off a ticks legs, it can no longer hear.'.
A basic summary of the logic used in making this video. 😂
Tf you're talking about, this video is very faithful, almost if not the entirely of facts stated on the video have a source directly from the show. It's pretty a summarize of Homelander and his power, that's the whole point. I don't see that they're trying to proof anything or exaggerated these facts.
Agreed, this video contains a number of half-truths, half-falsehoods, and omissions of facts
5:27 It didn't go through Butcher because Butcher had Durability, not because Homelander wanted to throw him back
Then explain why homelander wasn’t surprised that butcher didn’t immediately melt like normal
@@statics1because his number 1 idol was standing right next to him and he was more interested in taking out soldier boy than to check on what he assumed was a normal dude.
@@statics1 Because Homelander was surprised Butcher got up and had powers
For the plane, it’s because no matter how strong you are, if you just speed at Mach 1 into a tiny spot it will break, just like a needle in the arm
Not many people understand that.
Because Superman did it, but they don't get the fact that Superman actually alters tha physics around him or it's just a plot armour.
@@faizahmed588 Somewhat. In Superman Returns, he wasn't struggling to stop the plane. He was just slowing it down so it wouldn't break. We even see the airframe buckled at the force. Granted, every version is different to fit the story (some he projects his energy around the object). Even in that movie, there were some liberties taken as to the physics.
if hes strong enough he doesnt need to speed into the plane, he would just match its speed. The plane is designed to handle its on weight on small points, like the landing gear area, so he could easily grasp that area to control the planes descent if he had the strength.
Being a victim does not justify bad deeds. If anything it makes them worse because they know what the pain is like but inflict it anyways.
Nope! Nope! Totally does. When the authorities that are supposed to protect you either do nothing or actively take part and experiment on you, you're their slave and they're your enemy.
No. It 100% does in mythology.
Onryos exist for a reason.
Your awful at psycholgy
@@kingol4801 no it doesn’t if you’re intelligent. OP gave the reason why.
Same as Joker, good point
You don't explore Homelander's anatomy. Homelander explores yours.
Sometimes I wonder if Homelander is like Frieza from Dragon Ball where he was born powerful and never felt the need to become stronger as previously no one could challenge him
But after Goku, Beerus and the tournament, he was forced to finally push his limits and train to become stronger. And he did. Frieza actually managed to push himself further than those he initially stood no chance against so I’m thinking Homelander may be similar
Homelander is a big fish in a small pond, but if he actually needed to then he might actually be capable of becoming stronger, who knows
Hope so. That would be awesome!
Maeve proved that you can train to become stronger if you have the mindset for it. So if Homelander or John did it, they could become really powerful.
@@windghost2 also You Do Realize that Frieza even in Namike Saga! Understands his Place in the Universe and his Afraid of Beerus and Higher beings and doesn’t want try to mess with them! Also unlike Homelander Frieza knows how to Fight and Actually Trains and his Easily Way more intelligent and Calculating and Cold Hearted!!! But your Right he will Always be a Big Fish in a Small Pound! Homelander is literally that type of Guy to Rush in battle when he meets someone stronger and he gets killed off! Plus Homelander literally believes himself as Literally god himself both Figuratively and literally and how Nobody is Superior to him! But him in Dragon ball or Marvel and DC than he’ll Never be the Strongest! Also if you really think about Frieza and Homelander may be Similar but unlike Homelander Frieza isn’t the Strongest being in his Verse! And is Literally a Trained Warrior in Comparison and doesn’t view himself as God himself! As he Meet Real Gods!!! And is Of course Waaaaayyyyyy More Evil and Sadistic! In Comparison! If Homelander looks down the Everyone on Earth than Frieza would just view Homelander as a Filthy Earthling who thinks he’s the Strongest being Alive who thinks he’s some type of God! And Criticizing his lack of Combat Experience and skills also Frieza Doesn’t need to be Loved as he loves being Feared and Hated by Everyone! And we all know he’s Incapable of Loving and knowing Frieza he’ll hair Touture Homelander and the Seven Just because of Sadism and would give Homelander a Painful slow Death! Just cause it’s fun for him! While calling a a Filthy Earthling!!! Compared to an intergalactic Warlord!!!
@@user-adrsilva123 I agree with you. I'm just saying if John had the mindset for training, he would become stronger. But he won't do that since he believe he's fine as he is.
In the series they nerfed his stats , in comics the only time he ever got injured was by his stronger clone
Yeah but that was lame.
@@kymo6343 bruh how tf is that lame when the same thing literally applies to every character 💀
@@profilenotfound2525comics are lame af. I hate when ppl judge with comics. They’re so inaccurate
@@HalfHumanHalfgod lmao inaccurate ?! 🤣🤣 buddy thats where those characters came from , its the movies or Shows that have to be accurate to the comics , i dont think u rly know what that Word means
@My_pfp_beats_all_dog_breeds. no he didnt lmao , he got killed by the clone who even tho being a walking corpse easily tanked anti supe bullets like nothing
Personally i think the fight with soldier boy weakened him more than we think. If radiation nullifies the powers given by compound V or even completely removes them, no wonder homelander took damage from Maeve. Thats my theory anyway because no way Maeve is stronger than soldier boy.
It was because maeve practiced and prepared for that moment and soldier boy hadn’t fought in like 80 years or something right?
@@statics1No, Soldier Boy constantly emits radiation from his body. Just being around him can weaken someones powers.
@@Anunnaki_Gula then how did maeve survive
In Marvel terms, I would put Soldier Boy at about the Thing's level and Maeve at about She-Hulk's. Slight advantage to the Thing, but not huge, and they could certainly still hurt or even kill each other. Using that scale I would put Homelander in the Thor or angry-Hulk category.
I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that thr supes are only getting more powerful as time goes on. Maeve could easily be stronger than solider boy whether from a better formula of V or just even better training.
You know, he still had a little bit of humanity left in him because he actually wanted to save the people in that plane but once he fried the plane's dashboard and all of the controls, he was like "well, not my problem anymore"
You could say he wanted to, so he can get spotlight and recognition though
@@Wezlii530 Exactly, he only wanted to do it bc of what it gets him, not to help the ppl. He was just as fine w them dying bc it still got him smth he wanted.
He wanted to save the people on the plane because it would make him look good. If he had really cared about saving lives he would have taken as many as he could.
@@tigertubeipswich yeah but what I meant was that in season 1 he was not that mentally deranged yet...season by season he becomes more and more empty...like in season 3 when Soldier Boy "exploded" in the city and Starlight wanted to go and save the day, Homelander didn't care at all.
More like: ah, sh*, I messed it up
I am just here to let everyone in the comment's section know that I am Homelander and I can do whatever the fuck I want.
Honestly homelander is like the exact mix of super man and deadman’s wonderland if you know you know.
Could just be Superman, you are aware that Superman turned evil is pretty explored topic, right? Homelander just take it up a notch a Evil superman without an actual weakness and have a massive ego problem.
The fact that a metal rod didnt break when piercing his ear shows he isnt as invincible as other superman type characters
That doesn’t mean much, if Wonder Woman jammed a rod into Superman’s ear I guarantee you it would make him bleed.
Just like zod was able hurt Superman with a steel beam.
It’s all about who’s hitting you with the object, not the object itself in super hero works.
@@paigeh7892 still the durability of metal stays the same regardless of how much force it is pushed with
@@greenmarble638It's bad writing dude, that whole episode was writed like crap
But bullets ping off his entire body like it's not even an inconvenience. He shows no fear of even getting hit in the face, mouth or eyes. He might not be as strong as Superman (or even Omni-Man), but that episode had some serious inconsistencies with his powers and power level.
Another fun fact is something that doesnt have to do with his powers but infact his tolerance for pain, despise never really working out or anything he still has a high pain tolerance from the abuse he suffered as a kid, heck like the video showed he just walked out of something so painful that it was affecting his son, and he didnt notice he was bleeding when mave punched him
yea, like deadpool being a lab rat
There's also the difference between an adult man and a prepubescent boy. A healthy adult man could take a punch to the gut, for example, that would incapacitate a child or even cause serious injury. Same thing here. It hurt, but he could tolerate it. It hurt Ryan more, but on the other hand once it stopped he was fine. So partly it may just have been the shock factor. Kids often have exaggerated reactions to discomfort because they don't have much experience with it.
@@tigertubeipswich while that may be true so is my statement about his high pain tolerance
Homelander is one of the best villians of all time.
He’s so easy to hate
What's crazy, is that everyone forgets that Homelander is a "skinny", "average" guy that wears a muscle suit to appear buff to public. We see that in Season 3.
so he's a nerfed superman
He’s human, so basically.
Human but no clear weakness like superman’s kryptonite. Earth’s Superman
And yet, I love him, strangely. What a character!
Adult Ryan will be FAR stronger than him,it will not even be remotely close
The writers said he already has stronger heat vision than his father,its just his physical stats are still too weak due to his age.
When your child can push you down at such an age and can withstand an all out blow from his almost as strong grandfather he is gonna be on a completely different level once he reaches full peak maturity.(which for males is mid to late 20s)
Its likely that in order for Ryan vs Homelander to be a good fight and not onesided in Ryans favor they will have Ryan only be a teenager against his father,like 17 or 19 years old.And no,males arent fully developed at 18 years old.
They simply usually stop growing noticaebly in height at that age,after that the body starts growing more in muscle
Pretty sure we will see that epic white House scene but ryan, butcher, hughi, and soldier boy and likely starlight will all be there. I
Not necessarily soldier boys base states are actually better then homelander just unstable on top of that it’s implied that home lander was genetically engineered as well as given boster doses of v Ryan is a natural child meaning a lot of his traits would have been effected by his mothers body during development add to that the fact that home lander knows over use of v cases health problems means Ryan is more then likely going to be weeker then his father but still pretty strong
@@TheBoxingCannabyteepic but still funny as hughie will be completely naked.
@@seanbraley2772 Homelander is the show. If they allow him to get killed that's the end of the show. The writers have done an excellent job of with the script and Starr has murdered this role. The other main actors have performed well too.
Difference is, home lander was injected with compound V as a fetus, infant and toddler heavily due to being able to withstand due to his genetic ties with soldier boy, they also trained him in very “diabolical” ways, where as with Ryan, he was living with his mother up until home lander found him and hasn’t gone through what home lander has despite being the first natural supe. We don’t know how Ryan’s power will work until he grows because he’s the first natural supe in the show so how his powers work for him in terms of strength will be up to debate. I mean even home lander said that at Ryan’s age he was breaking the sound barrier so.
One of the greatest TV characters ever put on screen.
Ah yes, my favorite supe! Homanmandiner
The thumbnail has my favourite superhero in it: Homanmamdiner
HOMAMAMDINER
He's basically Superman but too lazy to improve himself.
No not really every version of Superman even the darker ones like over man and ultra man are in there way moral it’s based on the morality they are taught growing up “Clark” has been told by his parents who ever they are you are no different then anyone eles you can do more but your still a person homelander on the other hand was raised to think he’s better then everyone norms and sups alike so his baseline thought process is differnt why should I obey a rule made by someone less then me I’m better then it
I think Soldierboy is Physically stronger than Homelander. Keep in mind their first encounter that Soldierboy was still significantly weakened by his blast before the fights. In the final episode they had to team up against him to restrain him.
SB showed no signs of being any weaker. hell for all we know he might’ve absorbed all those supes’ energy
@@LoveyDovyy in the show whenever soldier boy used his radiation blast he was always out of breath and visibly weaker, however I think that with given time he’ll be able to use the energy blast without taking as much of a toll on his body
Trash opinion
I am just learning about this character, as I saw him in MK 1. He is quite messed up. I hope that storywriters can write a story there he can heal from the deep wounds of physical, emotional and spiritual trauma, which are the biggest reason he acts as he does. If he could do this, he would have been a real hero.
2:36 he said that because they can move faster than him so certain people can always run away from him.
And Stormfront seemed to be strong, but given enough energy they are all mortal. What doesn't make sense is that bullets can't harm them, but Mave's punch can cause bleading?
So basically Homelander is Superman.
Superman can fly fast enought to make the world turn backwards, has freeze breath, and was shown to be able to rebuild things like the great wall of china. So I would say no.
You'll be a huge channel keep it up
He explained why he could not take the plane to safety. It was more of poke at Superman for always being able to do this. If you don’t recall, it wasn’t him that was not strong enough. It was the outside of the of the plane.
Pretty much, the boys tries to be more grounded than Marvel and DC. If someone strong as Homelander tried to save a plane, they're just going to fly through the plane.
@@Anunnaki_Gula Even if that was true, if he was a decent hero he would have tried to save at least who he could tho. Literally just saving an armful of kids before the plane went down would have made him okay in most ppl's books.
the best thing about Antony Starr is that he didn't want to become
an actor that's why he is such fantastic Actor
Pure speculation but what if there was a first Supe? And not like Stormfront but someone the V came from that Vaught harnessed for Stormfront and the rest as a steroid for DNA. One story like this that was highly underrated was Hancock. The film describes his past as being incredibly old dating back to the beginning of existence and not being alone at first but having other superhumans to (pair up with) in order to become mortal, leaving Hancock alone essentially stuck with his abilities and agelessness. It would be interesting to see a Supe that maybe wasnt a Supe to being with but an actual god that was robbed of their DNA or Supe structure for scientists to use throughout history. Imagine the very first....coming back to take out Homelander.
that would be interesting to see tbh
Ah yes my favorite character, Homanmamdiner
3:48,.. he didn't say he was unable to carry the plane. He said it can't be done,.. which it can't. A plane is a tin foil can designed to spread its weight over the entire skin. If you put a point load on the plane, it would crumble.
Then you grab one of the reinforcing rings that are tied together with other straight members and in turn all the cabin seats and you fly with that thing in your grip.
@@whermanntx dude, That's a point load on a structural member not meant for a point load.
@@_.Dave._ and there's literally three points the entire aircraft rests on, the frame the landing gear is attached to. He could have pulled from the front tire well into a glided landing. The only thing he damaged was computer controls.
@whermanntx three... so not one. Great talk.
@@whermanntxhe’s not fucking engineer is he
I think when homelander said he’d take out air defenses I think he meant it more to cause absolute chaos and show the goverment that he’s always been using restraint and he could, at any time just destroy the military
I dont think air support would necessarily be his weakness, i assume he said them in those orders according to threat to us. Example, without aircrafts where are we going? Nowhere. Without internet and power, how would we know what's happening, or what country hes even in.
putting stuff in zinc boxes so homelander cant see through it, is not a very effective method of concealment. His curiosity will obviously rouse if he cant see through something as he will know that the box is obviously lined with zinc which is his only weakness and its been done so purposely.
Homelander is the perfect analogy of the US government especially when it comes to its military intervention and dilomacy
There’s always a contingent in place if the Ubermensch go rogue. Batman probably has a whole fucking cave full of kryptonite just in case. Tony Stark built the Hulkbuster armor. In the graphic novel, Black Noir was the contingency plan for Homelander but that’s gone. I’d imagine it’ll either be a grown up Ryan or maybe Butcher will take a bunch of V and just go ham
Homelander was partially exposed to the radiation beam of Soldier Boy during their first fight. You know, when the three of them were holding him down. That's the reason he seemed so weak when he fought Maeve. That metal rod would not have done shit to him, much less pierce his ear drum, if he was at full strength.
Like that explanation, and might even consider it, however the whole point of soldier boys beam is that it burns the V right out of supes blood, of he hasn't already used the beam, it won't affect the supes most likely. If it did, that would mean soldier boy has a heat aura and would probably burn a lot of the things he touches due to his radioactive body
I had the same interpretation. I'm surprised so many other people seem to think otherwise
He isnt an alien or that type of being thats not from earth.Its hard to make Superman bleed but not homelander.Homelander is a human with Superman 's super powers.
5:35 imagine this printed on a t-shirt or a kid's lunch box
The quiet kid warning to everyone
"Homanmamdiner" 💀
Homelander is a big fish in a little pond. Simply put he hasn’t met an even match in a long time but once everything is said and done he’ll be reminded he is very much so Mortal, just like any other human.
yes
Homelander is strong but in the DC universe he would just be another superhero
The problem with the plane was his strength would have damaged the plane more. He actually explains that in the show.
Make another video about Homelander, please!!!
Make a video about How Strong Is Homelander?
Here's My Research:
1. Homelander is always so much stronger than everyone else.
2. Billy Butcher claimed that superhumans can swim across the Sun, where it can be over 27 million degrees Fahrenheit.
3. Homelander is superior to Stormfront, who can create tidal waves and hurricanes powerful enough to destroy entire villages and towns (8.6 Megatons of TNT City level).
4. Homelander is stronger than Tek-Knight, who's known to destroy an asteroid the size of Texas weigh over 4.6 qunitillion tons and entry speed of 11,200 meters per second, it can destroy the moon twice over (59 exatons of TNT Moon level).
5. Billy Butcher claimed that some Supes can outrun tachyons, which are theoretical particles that move faster than light (100,000x faster).
6. Homelander downscales from Black Noir, who survived 20,000 foot falls, and also withstand heat vision.
7. Homelander is said to be the strongest man in the whole world.
You do understand that all of those research points are based entirely on the comics, not on the show, and the show differs from the comics. First off, in the show Butcher did not even say any of those things, and Homelander hasn't done any of those things
@@bignoseandrewstill it goes to show that the comics are more consistent in power scaling than the show since of how other supes can easily fck up other supes while Homelander one-shotting someone like Black Noir should realistically make Homelander easily overpower Maeve but no, he got a f3cking nose bleed and a pipe straw was able to penetrate his ear.... how does that make any sense and considering how fast Homelander is in the show especially the diabolical EP. 8 being canon, he's basically almost able to stop time... there are no feats or said feats that has Soldier Boy or any other enhanced humans like Butcher to move that fast as Homelander considering that Homelander is even faster than any speedster both from ground and air
@@godzillazfrictionHow does homelander overpowering black noir make him stronger than Maeve? Maeve is more powerful than black noir
@@appleboss9742😐
And still, he's just a little broken baby, poor guy, he's the reminder that brute strenght is nothing without inner peace. The boys is 🔥
His most powerful superpower: being an asshole.
He dosent have weakness, he has inconveniences
Well I do got one Finl question? If he's not fully Bulit proved Head to toe. So dose it mean homelander don't have slight fast healing?
He shouldn't
he was most likely perfectly able to hold up that plane, just didn't want to bother doing it. was just looking for excuses
My theory about Maeve being able to jam a metal rod and give him a bloody nose. After the fight with hughie, soldier boy and butcher. Soldier boy was powering up that chest thing to take his powers. That might have weakened homelander.
Yeah, I think the same
I'mma he totally honest, if it's anyone who's gonna end him be it in s5, it would be soldier boy, Butcher might not be around until then if he doesn't take the permanent V
"homanmandiner"
No super breath, and he has a weak healing factor, as he doesn't get his powers from the sun
Better than you tho
@@StarJester81 😅The comic book version of me would decimate him
@@JAZZYLGPRODUCTIONSLLC and? You can find anything in fiction that can defeat something
@@StarJester81 exactly
Homelander's weakness is not kryptonite
But Superman has a major weakness KRYPTONITE
The metal rod thing doesn't make any sense. Regardless of how strong Maeve is, the metal piece should have broken when making contact with Homelander. I mean, Soldierboy who is weaker than him got shot into his mouth without any damage, even Translucent wasn't damaged by a bullet from a high caliber rifle shot at him during the first season
I have to disagree with what's said in 7:15. It was not Homelander's intervention, but the Stillwell's baby, who has ability to teleport. We can see it in the third season, in sups' orphanage, where the boy teleports and scares Hughie. The nanny said "Teddy Stillwell, we don't teleport" and took the boy away.
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Yeah you are right. Damn i didn’t noticed it, & it’s interesting how his powers are similar to Hughie
My shot is that their (Billy's and Hughie's) powers after applying temporary Compound V are based on their nature; Billy is cold blooded hard hitter, filled with hate to Homelander, so his powers are similar to Homelander's powers; Hughie is the guy that used to run away, so his powers make him able to do so. It is also corresponding with their "role" in the team (attack/tank and support).
I hope we will get more light on it in the next season or incoming spin-off.
Btw, thanks for your video!
@@AllenTheGuywait what? How was it stilwells baby intervention? The baby just teleported itself outta there. It was Homelander who saved him
It wasn’t just a “seafood dinner” it was the deeps friend
Plus the thing was still alive... But I don't feel bad for Deep, I feel bad for the dinner. XD
There's some superheroes who could easily defeat him.
Those who have Mind Based powers like Brainstorm, Rufus (Gen V) and those with Persuasive abilities, like Kate from Gen V
Even Marie. You'll know it later on how powerful blood manipulation or blood bending can be 😂
@@alwayjohnrallos7359the new episode is so badass. Shit blew my mind
Katara will show up outta nowhere and slap him silly
They turned him to a walking USA
😂
I dislike how Maeve was and the others were so terrified of him but with one team up they managed to make him bleed. Either they nerfed him for plot or he wasn't as strong in the first place
Im guessing Homelander is roughly as powerful as your average supe (durability etc.) but he has really good powers, he can fly and he has laser eyes but he's still very limited
Bro, that was the whole damn point of teaming up, so that they had a chance to make him bleed. Try to keep up.
I rarely even remember to use protego. When going fast pace and having the red attacks I’ll use it for any time an attack in looming which it won’t work on. If I just dodge I can dodge everything. I know there are benefits to protego I just typically don’t bother with it
Homelander carries the team... if it ain't Homelander, then it don't make sense.. That's how interesting he is. Not to take away anything from the other characters they all good. But Homelander is good! better! best!!!.👍👍👍
About the airplane..
It is not possible to carry an airplane like Superman usually does.
The plane is not reinforced enough to be carried.
Superman + Captain America = Homelander
More like Superman + Nuke. Lol
More like Ultraman + US Agent
@@GangstaStan010 Cool combo
@@mrevilducky Now this is a pretty scary combo.
That only makes sense if you take away their morals
I think when he said he’ll take out air defenses first he wants to be the only man in the sky but its just a theory.
He couldn’t lift the plane because the plane would have torn under the structural stress focused around the area of his body, not because he wasn’t strong enough to lift the plane.
He's an earth version man made superman copy.
I think homelander didnt really mean that New York looks amazing from space because he wouldn't be able to survive the cosmic rays, he probably just "went up into the atmosphere" which is short for space and not literal. If he did go to space he wouldn't have survived because solider boy's explosion power is a radiation bomb that forces the supes powers out of them. Which means cosmic radiation would have killed him.
I don't see Homelander as having a different physiology to a Human, but instead, like the Plutonian, being a psionic reality warper. However, his psionic abilities are much more nerfed heavily, having the durability equivalent of 1000mm of RHA and 1000,000 MPa.
Homelander is not a psychic at all.
Most flying bricks in superhero fiction are psionic entities whose strength , invulnerability, flight, and energy projection powers are expressions of matter or spacetime/gravity manipulation. The only difference between Plutonian and Superman is that Plutonians psionic abilities need no energy, whereas Superman's draws energy from the sun. Homelander probably pulls it out of the zero point. Mind reading and lifting objects by looking at them is not the only way psychic abilities can be expressed. Psionic abilities can be virtually anything. It's space magic, basically.@@ptolemeeselenion1542
Completely wrong
He’s a real hero
Homelander could definitely lift that plane he just said he couldn’t cus he didn’t want to… you’d get the context if u watched it
He is "near invincible" not Invincible!
Is homelander as fast as season 1 A-train ?
He’s faster.
What is the point off having the A-train then and why they called him the fastest man in the world ?@@ZCommander
@@johnysnoww3831 Homelander is far faster, but that doesn’t mean vought wants the world knowing that.
Also, A-Train even at his peak was only Mach 1.5 give or take. You could make highball arguments for up to Mach 3, but that is as high as you can get.
Homelander is casually Mach 25, and likely around twice that speed. It’s not even close.
OK.@@ZCommander
@@johnysnoww3831 …..
Publicity.
That is really it. Homelander is Superman’s parody.
Superman is so strong that he does not NEED most of the Justice League around him.
The Boys show is probably making fun of that and shows that the ONLY metahuman that is truly an issue among the Seven is Homelander.
Everyone else is a lesser version that is being branded in a certain way and sold for PR.
This is also the reason why Homelander in Season 1 does not want to go and see A-train’s laughable race.
That is akin to a professional athlete going to observe kindergarten race among toddlers, lol
Because he's a rip off of super man
No, it's to equate Nazi "pride" with American patriotism.
The usual "Wokeism" that "All white people and nations are potential/actual Nazis" in their minds.
Hes not the most powerful because you cannot stab a pencil in supermans ear ... Also his weakness would be a psychiatrist breaking his shit down ...until homelander kills himself
Yes weak points like ears but homelander will heal from it in minutes
In the DC/Marvel world:
The Punisher and Captain America vs Superman
In The Boys season 3:
Butcher and Soldier Boy vs Homelander
Perfect Parallels.
I thought the same. Amped up Jon Bernthal going full tilt rage with the same powers as Butcher and Cap getting amped up enough and maybe they could include him being gifted a vibranium suitmixed with stark tech
Except Soldier Boy is a super-nuclear threat.
Captain without Mjolnir (essentially gifted Thor’s powers by Odin) is not even remotely on par with that.
Finally a super "hero" I can relate to and understand mutal feelings
About Soldier Boy and Homelander powers, their cell properties would be different. The cells should have some fixed properties:
They should produce more cells only when those cells are somehow lost or destroyed such as being hit really hard by Butcher's laser beam, losing blood by getting punched really hard by homelander and having to produce more bone marrow to produce more blood cells etc. Because naturally his cells don't die unless there's a strong enough kinetic force or extreme temperature to kill them. They stubbornly stay together. And when they're damaged they're replaced with perfect replicas, no information is lost which explains why he doesn't age. Also this means he could get stronger much faster than the average human just like Invincible. He would damage the muscles by lifting enormous weights and the body would adapt and produce more muscle cells per square inch though there probably would be a limit for how strong he could get.
They should have extremely strong bonds like graphene. The way I see it is overall his body has a higher number of cells per square inch more prominently in the muscles and bones which explains his super strength. It'd be required extremely high energies to pierce through those bonds thus explaining his durability. His body wouldn't need to keep producing more sex cells because they don't fall apart in his nuts lol. If he takes a wank the body just produces more. He would have indestructible sperm lmao.
The hormones I believe would be very similar to normal humans. He would also need to produce enough blood to supply his super dense muscles. That would probably mean his heart would have to be bigger and pump harder or more frequently than humans which would explain their super stamina.
That's more or less what I think compound V did to their anatomy. Let me know what you guys think of it I might be wrong at some things as the human body can be quite complex lol.
6:45 „he can even hear the lowest sounds like A-train cursing him“ right after saying he can hear blood pressure lmfao
Show's Homelander is actually smarter than the comics version. He said some good reasons why he shouldn't attempt to lift the plane. While in comics, dude tried to change the plane's direction by hitting the plane from the tail at mach2.