What Experiments Were Done On Homelander As a Child | The Boys Season 4
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How many attempts were there before they got Homelander.......
How many children were injected with compound V and then Tortured. There no way Homelander was their first try
Aww man, good point 😢
But Homelander is directly the child of Soldier Boy so his attempt would be vastly different. With other kids the floor and ceiling they’d know pretty quickly but with Homelander, Soldierboy was the floor so I can’t blame him for his hate.
Remember what vought said to homelander?
"Your my greatest failure"
@@EasilyPullingUpFromDeep Consider that they could have made multiple pregnancies from Soldier Boy's 'donation', John may simply be the first one that survived
And it's telling that despite having decades to make more after he was born, Vought didn't
i think allen got superman's power confused with Metroman, explaining why he thinks superman cant see through copper
Metroman didn't have any weaknesses anyway
@@koleszgdanska7149metro the best bootleg Superman.
Nah Superman is the bootleg metroman 😩😩😩
@@manniefresh2022he’s stronger than supes
@@Some_guy-on-the-internet correct
Homelander could’ve actually been an actual good supe if he had good parents every kid needs.
Yeah. Just like if Superman wasn't found by the Kent's. There's a chance he could've been just like Homelander
@@tjk-goix8513nah. Even in flashpoint timeline when he kinda had homelander childhood he still wanted to be good from what i remember.
Not only him but Soldier Boy most likely would've cooled down when becoming a father.
The thing is, Homelander would have very likely killed those parents just as how he killed that teacher ... one of the reasons vaught kept homelander under lock was due to the fact that he couldn't controll his powers. In the show it is told *spoiler*' killed his mother with his laser eyes while still in her womb. People have been genuely terrified of him.
Which doesn't mean what they did to him was justified. But it is not a given that he would have been a healthy, normal person if he grew up with "loving" parents.
Basically Superman with crazy, evil parents
The duality between Homelander and Superman proves why upbringing is so important in influencing the kind of person you become.
Superman was raised in a Smallville farm by loving parents, who showed him the best of humanity, as well as around people who loved the Kent family through thick and thin. A community that saw itself as one big family.
Homelander grew up cold and alone in a lab, and he saw the worst of humanity through torturous experiments. He didn’t see that people were capable of love, he only remembers the trauma he went through.
Well said!
the 'upbringing' part is never absolute of what the initial post is making an argument for the premise of how 'upbringing' given the circumstances will absolutely shape them to be that very thing.
One experiment Homelander says, while it didn't kill him, being trapped in the furnace did hurt. It makes me wonder if he has a vulnerability to extreme heat
I don't think so. He could easily survive it...but it was still incredibly painful.
You can survive being tortured, for example, but it won't be pleasant.
Your mind breaks before your body.Homelander is a weak minded person in thor like body.Tough from outside weak and coward from inside.
He needs to train his mind to toughen his mind to walk side by side with his tough body
Probably not anymore - they probably deliberately deadened his pain response to heat - kind of the way people get used to eating spicy food.
@@DogFoxHybrid, ehh it's debatable, while that could have been the purpose of the experiment, your analogy with spicy foods doesn't exactly work as you have to keep it up or overtime the tolerance goes away
But assuming he does have a tolerance to pain from heat, it'd still mean he's vulnerable to extreme temperatures but just wouldn't feel it. Assuming this is implying he can be wounded by hot enough temperatures lol
@@KB-si5fx, you can't really have physical torture if it can't wound your body in some way... unless you're ticklish but I doubt the furnace tickled lol
I think being a father might actually make homelander a better person. As we see his relationship with Ryan progress, we can see how he starts to connect Ryan's childhood to his own and how he wishes to genuinely protect Ryan from the same trauma and the same feelings. Ryan is basically a tool for homelander to develop his massively under-developed empathy. Homelander is big time dissassociative, due to ptsd. He even has an alternate personality, a la the green goblin, but not to such an extent. But as we can see, Ryan is the one thing that shatters all of that.
Might not be what most people consoder good, but I think Ryan will make homelander a better person
Edit: well, all of the above requires homelander and ryan to bond, like actually bond, not just superficially and not just in isolated incidents, which as of yet is not the case
I mean he literally murdered a man in front of his son
@@thecringeprince2040yeah but Ryan also killed someone you could see it in the trailer where he threw someone against the wall
@@AT2004 okay? Ryan literally learned this behavior from Homelander. He learned that killing is okay.
Homelander has dissociative symptoms because he has BPD
I think that's a massive reach.
Homelander is just as much a victim as the people he victimizes. Vaught is the true evil. Homelander is broken and pitiful if you really think about it
Agreed. I don't feel bad for him at all. I'm sad for the person he could've been with an upbringing like Clark Kent
No he’s worse
@@zaddy2760 how so
It’s Vought Not Vaught
@@StefanWinchesterdid you want a list?
Superman can’t see through lead my guy not copper
My guy.
Yeah, and lead makes sense because normal x-rays also are blocked by lead
Homelander can't see through zinc
Lol have u ever seen any episode? He can't see through zinc
People can't read anymore. The comment here is about superman, not homelander :)
Yeah, that character is a prime example of a created villain. The scientists knew it too. It's a fictional story, but I still have wonder what they were thinking the outcome would be. Give a baby superpowers and then raise him like a lab rat. What could possibly go wrong! ?
Yea Voughts filled with people are are textbook examples of varying degrees of intelligence and lack thereof. Genius' that could create someone like Homes, yet too stupid to see how raising him in such a way could go south for all of humanity
Everything. *EVERYTHING* could go wrong.
Homelander is the product as a super citizen he isn’t even built as a soldier just a Clark kent who can fly and has all powers. Anytime in his childhood a failure may be in comparison to black noires actions
I swear I'm sure The Boys will find a way to make us actually feel bad for Homelander 😭😭
they kinda did try that in the scene where he went to talk to one of the scientists that raised him in season one
we got a scene in ep 4 where he Killed those scientists who ran experiments on him
@@jr-vm9yrokay squirt 😂 I did not feel bad for Homelander but I was somewhat rooting for him. "Use it or Loose it."
You can feel bad for aspects of his character when knowing how they came to manifest
Nothing wrong with that
Though I like him plenty plenty without needing to feel bad for him
I will completely admit that I have not touched the comics. However, I have watched the show. Learning all of this about Homelander made me go from “He’s a really cool villain that’s fun to watch” to “Damn, now every time he’s on screen, I feel really bad for him.”
The Show is a lot different than the comics.
At least they give you a back story on why a person is this way.
How are you gonna say anyone who’s taken temp V can’t reach anywhere near the levels of Homelander when Butcher literally was able to square up with him for a good amount of time???
Yeah I said the same thing. But then again your brain turns to sludge after a couple uses.
Oh yeah, let's just forget the fact that he needed two other people to help him, but go off
Homelander had butcher near death twice in that fight 😂but butcher got bailed by soldier boy and hughie . Did you even watch the fight?
@@speedySonBoykinsHomelander was also close to killing Soldier Boy until Butcher stepped in and lastly Hughie stepped in as well. Even when he was being pinned down by all three he managed to get them off him, so pretty much in a 1 o 1 fight Homelander would've won against Butcher or Soldier Boy.
@@Starlight-by3cfsoldier boy was tired form the blast but homelander would do won anyway
heard deadpool went back in time for baby homelander too
Superhearing has never been a disadvantage for Superman once he mastered it. What bullshit.
Experiments? He simply had more compound V as far as we know, though I could see him having gotten the original recipe like soldier boy, stormfront, etc.
He was experimented on, there’s literally a flashback of him as a baby in a testing center.
@@zaddy2760 you mean a safe room? We see them hold Maeve there, it’s literally just a room where he won’t kill everyone accidentally lol
@@Mikerille there are literal seems in the boys of homelander as a child in experimental rooms. He didn’t have parents, he was raised by vought and experimented on. You sound dumb af
@Mikerille that’s what I thought numb nuts
Bro that’s literally what he said tf!!
He needed someone stronger than him to show him the right way & how to forgive.
Dosnt matter what he went through. You can only be judged on what you do now !
Fast forward to episode 4 of season 4... Homelander's childhood lab seems to remain in operation by the same staff who raised him. But we didn't get to see who/what their current project was.
I assumed they just continued to work on and research compound V and temp V
Homelander is off the charts 😂 anyone that sees him as an inspiration needs to reflect ASAP 😅
7:55 Superman can see through copper your thinking of mega mind.
It's lead he can't see through.
Are you a robot? Thats not how you say laboratory. You said lab-rat-ory. Lol😂🤣
They could have got him a super powered mother
I'm just gonna yoink a couple of the pure vials of that compound V, don't mind me...
Same
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That baby wasn’t Homelander’s son, it was Noir’s.
Homelander didn’t SA Becca.
The video Said Homelanders Clones son meaning Black Noir
@@jangoryloth9502 What weird way to phrase it😂
I’d understand him not saying it if he didn’t wanna spoil comic Noir being the clone.
@@OmniManiac05 Any women would sleep with Homelander, women are designed to have s with what she considers to be superior man. Its impossible for him to SA anyone.
So homelander got the brotha in him 😅
@@MegrelMamba 😂😂 That’s wild bro!
Almost feel bad for him but no. One power he doesn't have is emotional maturity. A lot of people had crap childhoods but that doesn't give anyone the right to be crap adults.
He should know better but he was so f'd up he probably has serious mental problems besides the obvious
A crap childhood is far different than being a government experiment with little to no human interaction 😂. I come from an extremely abusive household but I still had a father and mother figure even tho they were shit, it at least gave me an understanding on not wanting to turn out like them. Homelander was legit groomed and doomed from the start, no possible way he comes out of that sane and good hearted
Crap childhood is a very understatement. Crap childhood many time just mean bad parents or being bullied, Homelander lived in a purgatogy as a child, no hope for him
I'm glad the replies above me exist, crap childhood is definitely understating what he went through
No but u can still sympathize with them and understand why they are the way they are especially when it’s as bad as what homelander went through
So Homelanders childhood was a true Kasper-Hauser experiment.
5:50 why you say la bora tory like that 😂
This is the stuff that makes you feel bad about Homelander. I honestly think because he was mostly alone- all the time he made a second persona to try and pick him up and I think the directors are going to take that and twist with it maybe to the point where homelander has a twin or something - and he has still been experimented on, and maybe they wiped it from Homelander mind when he was a child, but I feel like when he talks to the mirror one time he’s gonna think he’s talking to a mirror but he’s gonna talk to his actual twin, who is probably a lot stronger due to more experiments that’s just my theory. It doesn’t look like black noir is going to be what he was in the comics. I did like his Deadpool like vibe, I really wonder if it’s still the same black noir and maybe he’s trying to come to the boys place to like actually talk to them, but they automatically think they have to fight. That’s what I think also, I feel like there’s a redemption coming for, possibly a train -- I feel like a train is gonna help them in the end, and he’s gonna like go out ( die ) saving someone - I have a weird feeling he might save Huey and say hey I’m not as bad as you think and then die - kinda like what they do flash every time Justice league fight someone either has to run to a different dimension or straight up, tries to save someone and gets destroyed lol 😂 i’m gonna call it now. I think Homelander is going to rip off the head of the head popper Victoria. Mrs bj on the senate lol ( that was a throwback to when she said they were posting deep fakes of her, blowing some guy in the Senate room - lmao I forgot remember that person that she was like friends with and knew her actual name, did she end up killing him I think so. I remember her but I believe that when he tries Homelander to kill Victoria Newman, he’s going to have to deal with her power also and I think it’s gonna do something to his mind. Maybe make him look all red in the eyes like they did towards the end of the comic run --like really freaking nuts. -- I will never forget the beautiful moment when Homelander spanked his monkey just because he could in mid air- I know it’s all from the comic, but Seth Rogen does such a good job of laying down the jokes and other shit and Kripke has done an awesome job all the way through. I feel like when Rogan got on board it was like a boost of energy anyway what do you guys thoughts?
I love it when content creators put intentional errors in their content. Superman can’t see through copper? 👍
Congratulations you got my comment. 😅
there is no way he could survive an armor-piercing tank shot if he got a bruise from a punch that wasn't even supersonic, also nukes no way he can survive the temperature of the suns core
Fax, man. Im also pretty sure radiation can destroy the compound V in his body
@@AlkiosAvainashNo "fax" were stated here
If you're trying to bring real life physics into this you're being foolish. The Hulk at his strongest could shake continents and potentionally shatter a planet, yet is still very subsonic. Fact is it would take the worlds strongest nuke to maybe kill him.
@CodyMe hulk is mcu, homelander is not mcu, but I get it this is a fictional universe where the writers decide how powerful something is im just saying that if a punch that wasn't even supersonic gave him a bruise then an apfsds tank round will surely fuck him up, and don't even get me started on nukes a fission(old design) bomb so not even fusion the fireball of a fission nuke is 150 million C, there isn't a thing that humans created in that universe notice how I said human created the only thing I know of that can survive a nuclear blast is nuclear pasta which is literaly a neutron star
@@AnteUjcic It was stated that there wasn't a weapon that could kill him. Safe to assume even the strongest Nuke would fail
Thanks for this new Homelander video love this channel
Fact: villains are not born they are made
Episode 4 of Season 4 shows Homelander could have left the bad room at anytime he wanted
The scientists engineered his mind to always crave attention and love, and not defy their orders even if he didn't like it.
Homelander=Cia found the capsule, before the Kent's do
people thought a real family should have raised him, but they didnt see how much could go wrong when he kills everyone by accident
I hope they do it differently in the show and homelander ends up calming down, idk I think it would be cool to see a chill homelander but idk, the idea of Ryan having to eventually kill Homelander is kinda sad
6:15 That sounds exactly like eleven 😅
So they trolled them also
That fucking music!!!! 😍
That butcher comic scene 💀
Those who think that Homelander is doing a right thing must remeber that:
Butcher also had a horrible childhood which turned him into a hardcore jerk but with a good purpose to makes things right. There is always a chance to make things right.
I am pretty sure Andre Anderson from Gen V inherited his powers from his father Polarity.
And Maverick with his father Translucent.
4:35 caught me off guard😂💀💀
Homelander's a lot similar to Sephiroth
8:06 wait did you just say superman can’t see though copper? It sounded like you did but that definitely can’t be right no one would make that mistake by accident.
Wait… you can make a mistake on purpose?
I’m confused on how he wasn’t able to punch through the door in his cell.
Homelander while being a villain is purely human. He is in fact a victim of Vaught.
I actually think Ryan will grow to be even more evil than Homelander. You can see Ryan is hinted to be Sociopaths.
TBF kids at a young age haven't developed empathy yet. But the possibility is still there
I don’t blame him for being evil at times
It only takes 70-90 hz of sound to break a skull so if they turn it up they should be able to burst the supervillains eardrums and skull.
Superman can’t see through lead not copper lmao
So does that mean that a dog whistle can stop or slow down Homelander ?
On what basis do the Supes get differnt types of power.
Is it becuase of the the differnce in components of Compound V or
the quality of the serum?
If Vought ever truly modifies Compound V , it'll be able to turn a person into Superman, maybe even a Charles Xavier or a Jean Grey.
Metroman can’t see through copper. Superman can’t see through lead
Just to clarify: his mother didnt "presumably die" she was ripped apart by homelander clawing his way out
My poor baby!!!
We also know that he’s durable to a point. SB scares him. Enough Supes together can take him down. And Maeve was able to make him bleed by just punching and stabbing him.
It was either Maeve or Madalyn that said they even used nuclear weapons on him. My god. 💀
Superman can't see through LEAD not copper. Seeing as how lead blocks bits of radiation
Because Xrays or Xray Vision would be a form of radtiation
He was literally born in a lab’s ovary.
Guys Is There a BOYS Animated Show?
Yes
Yeah it’s called The Boys Diabolical
They are shorts
Its diobolical
It's called Diabolical haha. Every episode has a different animation style; there's one that looks like a Studio Ghibli film with an old couple that is so good yet sad but it's probably my favorite.
Suprised they didn’t find some weakness of his in all these experiments
Well seeing as how Maeve was able to pierce homelander's ears I'm pretty sure his eyes are a weakness it doesn't matter how strong the individual is without eyes homelander is nothing
6:25 For those who think that the TV show can´t get more extreme.
When did Superman start not seeing through copper????
Homelander and Superman are not the same person.
@TheChromePoet the guy in the video specifically said superman can't see through copper, which is untrue. He can't see through lead, because it's x ray vision and x rays can't see through lead
Don't forget that Superman has the heritage of a race evolved on a planet with a much higher surface gravity. (lois Lane needed some for of anti-gravity when she went there prior to it's destruction before kal's birth)
Since he pushed himself to limits when tyraining/excercising, this means that he retains this, which in turn means that in the event of exposuyre to gold kry[ptonite, we would retain that relative strength and reflex/
In the event that Homelander encounters something that removes his abilities he would be just normal, and probably less so, since its doubtful he would have the mental push to do proper to the limit-training.
Heck as Superbopy, he even did regular exposure to green kryptonite, not to build up an immunity as some thnk, but so that exposure to it would not be a shocking as it would be to a Kryptonmian who had never encountered it, in preparatiopn for Phantom Zopne criminals escapinbg or reaching the end of their sentences.
So, on a blow by blow, Good old Clark beats Homelander out of the court.
Oh yes, and don;t forget the Gaurdians considered Jor and Lara to be candidates to be two of the best Lanterns ever, and for their son to lead the Elite Lanterns when he came of age... so Kal wins over Homelander on focus opf attention and purpose too.
Stan is more evil than homelandar. Like look at his daughter Victoria she f**King so cunning. Even if you compare Zoe to Ryan. Zoe is lethal she shows no mercy in destroying anyone harming her mother. Whereas Ryan actually thinks 100 times before attacking only out of pressure if someone harm his dad. I truly think Stan is very cunning character. Isn't he ceo of Vaught. Also he very smart and clever. Homelandar was abused by vaught. I am suprised homelandar hasn't killed Stan, he attracted to his abuser or where you always back to your abuser.
The show also shows how people's brain chemistry and personality plays a role in supes. Kumiko has gone through hell abd back. She's been killed by Black Noir but has healing factors. Kumiko feels the pain from fighting and she definitely has emotional trauma. But she isn't a psychopath narcissist like Homelander. Kumiko even started drinking beer to numb her pain. She's considered almost animalistic as she can't speak along with her fighting style. While Homelander looks human, is more polished, and superficially pleasing but is dumb as a tree stump and has no humanity. It's the fact that Homelander was already a psychopath rhe day he was born. He entered the world killing his mother out the womb. Kimiko without being sex trafficked wouldn't have ever hurt a fly.
“ Get in the oven Frank “
Supersonic could have been a good foil for Homelander with his sound wave abilities…too bad…
Vogelbaum's right. Homelander should've lived a normal life in a home with a family who loved him. Although given who Homelander's birthfather is, he probably would've turned out the same either way.
Superman can’t see through lead.
What homelander did to the scientists when he found them was justified.
Yep, episode 4 confirmed the mother died during birth seeing as he lazered his way out of the womb.
07:04--- All Star Superman pose.
Homelander is Zach Morris with Power
will he eventually stop aging tho like his dad
superman cant see though lead
Still doesnt justify what he does.
Or just ignore the fact in the comics black noir setup homelander, so he definitely wasnt the failsafe. He's literally the reason the series goes the way it does with everyone thinking its real homelander doing all the terrible things.
Superman can’t see through lead
I'm glad that something like this doesn't exist, with the way assholes act today I feel like the world would be 10x worse than the boys universe. Speaking as someome who would absolutely abuse his powers.
Love the username
at least your honest
@@PermanentGogeta66everybody would.
@@zaddy2760Not really, do you got out of your way to kick pigeons on the street? I don't, and I have extreme power by comparison. This whole "Everyone would turn evil with power" is fundamentally not true, and you can see it with how people treat their pets 🤷🏻♂ I have a lizard, I make sure she eats well, is safe and lives a good life. No one would know if I tortured her, and yet I don't. The idea that if I got powers I would start abusing regular humans is just ridiculous ️
@@dethdaemon this is such a ridiculous analogy. Human nature is evil, many people in positions of power abuse it, while some don’t. Giving the extreme power of superpowers to the world it is inevitable that many people would abuse it.
Why did you say copper? That's Metroman (and not really)
Lead bro. Lead
Superman can't see through lead, Not copper brother
Knowing Homelander his "trauma" will actually be something really stupid that only his insecurity and ego would believe are negatives. Like his love for his blanket or something.
Considering Mave (Maeve?) could make him bleed with a metal pipe.. yes he 10000000000% can be killed
Don’t power scale imaginary stories 🤦
Superman cnt see threw lead not copper.
Copper is ultraman
Lead my dude I’m pretty sure Superman can’t see through lead not copper
Black noir dies. Season 4 we see that he’s back… so Yunno he might be the clone now
Or maybe just some random supercunt. But it'd be a cool way to get comic Noir
7:58 think you meant lead my g.
7:57 err superman can't see through copper, I think you mean lead don't you 🤔
You you're the real hero!! How dare you talk about ME!? I'm the face of the SEVEN NOT YOU also I need 🍼
Horror version of Astrix and Obelix magic potion?
Song name?
its possible the new Black Noir will be the Homelander clone
HL could not easily hurt Stormfront with his laser vision….Ryan lasered Stormfront into pieces in the woods. This implies Ryan has potentially much greater power than Dad. We will see….
I think Homelander could have done the same damage. He just never went full nuke on Stormfront. There was no need.
lead superman can’t see through lead
I thought Superman can’t see through lead?
I hope s4 solder boy updated and homlender & ryan & solder boy create family. Boys team only way powerful virus other clone of homlender