Conservative Party | Edward Heath Interview | This Week | 1972

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  • After two years in power the Prime Minister Edward Heath discusses the state of the nation and the growing concerns over inflation and unemployment with Journalist Jonathan Dimbleby
    First: 15/06/1972
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    Quote: VT6154

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  • @tancreddehauteville764
    @tancreddehauteville764 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When I listen to both Heath and Wilson and compare them to modern politicians, they seem like geniuses!

    • @stephenhardy312
      @stephenhardy312 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Politicians of that period - and before - are of a different class from the imbeciles of today. Heath was one of my heroes.

  • @jodyburrows977
    @jodyburrows977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Far more straight talking than today's politicians

  • @marklynch5149
    @marklynch5149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Ted Heath's accent was a curious mixture of rural Kent & Oxford English. There's no denying he was a very intelligent articulate man with a distinguished war record!

    • @farrington4918
      @farrington4918 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      See the monty python song they made about his accent

  • @danw1374
    @danw1374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Clear and concise, quite the opposite of what were used to seeing today.

  • @jodyburrows977
    @jodyburrows977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Heath comes across well

  • @johnking5174
    @johnking5174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    8:10 - A box of groceries in 1972 costs £6 according to Jonathan here. In 2019 money valuation that box of groceries would cost £81.00.

    • @TheDOJ-n9teen6t8
      @TheDOJ-n9teen6t8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you expect it to STILL cost £6 in 2019 ? What is your point ? Excessive inflation ?

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDOJ-n9teen6t8 No, I am not stupid. I am just trying to explain to those viewing this, the cost of purchasing power has changed dramatically since 1972. I am not thick headed.

    • @TheDOJ-n9teen6t8
      @TheDOJ-n9teen6t8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnking5174 I don't think for one minute you are stupid or thick headed John. As your surname alludes you are a King amongst men. I was just asking a question. I come in peace my friend. Take care.x

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDOJ-n9teen6t8 Thanks

    • @TheDOJ-n9teen6t8
      @TheDOJ-n9teen6t8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Though, your point, in essence IS inflation.

  • @johnking5174
    @johnking5174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The average weekly wage in 1972 was around £30 to £35. This meant in one year someone would earn around £1,800 per year. This would be taxed at 30%. Meaning after income tax they would have £1,260 per year. Adjusting for inflation that would be worth in 2019 around £17,000 a year salary.

    • @oli230
      @oli230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The cost of housing though was a very different matter. In the seventies a man on a modest income could manage to buy a home, run a small car, pay the household bills and even manage an annual holiday by the sea. Mum could stay at home, she cooked real food and ran the home, most kids then looked clean and healthy and weren't obese. Now kids are dumped off in nurseries to be 'looked after' by other people, while mum has to go out to work so that the mortgage and council tax can be paid.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oli230 When I go into Tesco to do my shopping I am still shocked at the cost of living in 2020

    • @oli230
      @oli230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John King yes I am shocked too, the cost of goods rises steeply sometimes, not just a penny or two. If that continues even a basic standard of living will be impossible for many.

    • @martinhawes5647
      @martinhawes5647 ปีที่แล้ว

      Surely the personal allowance (I.e 0% income tax bracket) still existed in 1972.

    • @zakvondaniken9327
      @zakvondaniken9327 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good wage

  • @MrDavey2010
    @MrDavey2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Heath’s unexpected victory in the 1970 General Election gave him over confidence in his own judgement which led to the disaster of the 3 day week, the state of emergency and the miners strike. He was a dreadful PM who sulked for the rest of his life after defeat in 1974.

    • @67Parsifal
      @67Parsifal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was elected entirely due to the apathy of Labour voters.

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yet he received more votes than Labor in 1974. 46%. Imagine any party getting 46%. His sulk ended when Thatcher was ousted. It's what the Tories do; eat their own.

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In 74 he received 46% of the vote with an 81% turnout. That's not apathy. Imagine any party getting 46% and an 80% turnout in 2023. It would never happen. @@67Parsifal

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 3 day week was the result of the Arab Israeli war coupled with greedy trade unions both being outside Heath's control

  • @callumclark4021
    @callumclark4021 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His oratory style is almost Thatcher-esque in parts of this!

    • @wilsonfisk6626
      @wilsonfisk6626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear it! A very confident and confrontational tone.

  • @MVERLAINE1
    @MVERLAINE1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The only Tory leader worthy of a modicum of respect, not least taking us into the EEC which brought the UK huge economic benefits for 50 years until Brexit

    • @user-yi6ui6pn4i
      @user-yi6ui6pn4i ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Certainly brought ''huge economic benefits'' to France and Germany.
      UK was stitched up and Heath accepted a terrible deal, he was over a barrel.
      Heath accepted the disastrous CAP and CFP which put UK farmers and fishing industry
      at a severe disadvantage. EEC was a protectionist cartel which never suited Britain.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed with the groundless smears against him being an integral part of the Brexit campaign funded by offshore interests

  • @adrianbrowne7962
    @adrianbrowne7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a " Beautifully Tailored Suit " Mister Heath was wearing !!! From Adrian Browne 1965

  • @Ground53
    @Ground53 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Somethings never change

  • @marklynch5149
    @marklynch5149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ted Heath's father was a carpenter and his mother a maid - maybe Britain wasn't permeated with a class consciousness that inhibited peoples ambitions.

    • @jsmith3980
      @jsmith3980 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he went to grammar school [poor man's public schools] and Oxford......this is where he got a bit of polish removing the spit of 'is 'umble origins.

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Britain's class nonsense would never float in the U.S..

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heath's father was a station porter

    • @marklynch5149
      @marklynch5149 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stephenchappell7512 I can't find any sources that say that. Several say he was a capenter - _'Ted Heath's father started his working life as a carpenter and later bettered himself to become a master builder'_ The Independent Obituary 18th July 2005.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marklynch5149
      Apologies it was actually his Paternal Grandfather at Broadstairs Railway Station

  • @InstallaFriend
    @InstallaFriend 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is that Ollie from The Thick of It?

  • @thesubtleface
    @thesubtleface 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Heath comes across excellently in this interview.

    • @oli230
      @oli230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I think a lot of people would have thought that, but he wasn't an excellent man in any way. He didn't even qualify to be called a man, he was a dangerous predator.

    • @CaradhrasAiguo49
      @CaradhrasAiguo49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@oli230 You referring to allegations against Heath made by the known fabricator Carl Beech, or the "satanic ritual abuse" claptrap?

    • @oli230
      @oli230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CaradhrasAiguo49 I first heard about it from David Icke when he called him out as a pedophile in one of his books. Heath did nothing about it. Slander is one thing but libel is much easier to prove.... unless the evidence is stacked against you. British (probably all) politics is a filthy game full of sewer rats, corrupt and corruptible characters are especially selected to rise to the top, particularly ones with disgusting vices because they can easily be controlled. Just my opinion based on what I have learned. You are entitled to your own opinion.

    • @yorkiephil7744
      @yorkiephil7744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oli230 You discredit yourself completely by referencing David Icke as your source - a known fantasist, conspiracy theorist and grifter. I didn't rate Heath as a PM and his 30 year sulk after losing the leadership to Thatcher will always count against his legacy, but your allegations and those of Beech are wholly groundless.

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He received more votes than Labor in 74 as well. 46% with an 80% turnout. No one gets numbers like that anymore.

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Missing how the Dimbleby family hegemony was already working up through the gears....
    And deeply amusing the talk of men as earners and women as housewives.
    It is no longer 1972... although we still have the Dimbleby dynasty. 😊

  • @johnking5174
    @johnking5174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does anyone know what the basic rate of income tax was in 1972? Was it higher than it is now in 2020?

    • @revooh1
      @revooh1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      35 %, I think

    • @malthusXIII-fo3ep
      @malthusXIII-fo3ep 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was 33% in 1976 when I first started work.

    • @danw1374
      @danw1374 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The standard rate was 38.75%

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danw1374 Was there a level where people didn't have to pay income tax, as we have now? Or was that rate set for everyone?

  • @syedadeelhussain2691
    @syedadeelhussain2691 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Real wages and productivity must increase hand in hand with one another! ..that is elementary economics. Edward Heath is trying to explain this to Kimberly which the latter is unable to comprehend at all!

    • @tyqwdybijo
      @tyqwdybijo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It seems everyone working for Thames tv at the time was a fool and a communist that couldn’t grasp such simple concepts or did grasp them and set out to mislead the public that it was possible to earn money without working.
      When I see how the west is destroying itself with covid Lockdowms and indefinite massive stimulus for a locked down economy I think they may have succeeded

  • @veggie42
    @veggie42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heath didn't privatise the system or solve the issue his SECRETARY OF STATE FOR EDUCATION privatised energy, water, telecoms she was right the railways were privatised wrongly

  • @rogersweet3608
    @rogersweet3608 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful speech
    Rees Mogg is similar speaking today
    Softer tone with Jacob

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heath has an intellect. Mogg is a dullard.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rees Mogg is a thicko though

  • @cclewes7373
    @cclewes7373 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Disastrous government

  • @skoorbnimajnib5602
    @skoorbnimajnib5602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting for me to see the face of someone now accused of the worst crimes imaginable. Quite civilised!

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is why paedophiles are so dangerous. They come across as reasonable and decent people. This is why many catholic priests were trusted.

    • @wallaceidaho-sapphire1579
      @wallaceidaho-sapphire1579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnking5174 or rabbis

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      smeared with
      not accused of

    • @davidgoulden5956
      @davidgoulden5956 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stephenchappell7512 Exactly. i don't believe a word of those smears.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidgoulden5956
      Of course we should now see it for what
      it was, a part of the general campaign of disinformation waged by offshore interests in support of Brexit (we haven't heard any follow up 'allegations' since have we?)

  • @mindblast3901
    @mindblast3901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Heath who sold this country out in 1970 EEC to the start of the Rot EU

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And now we are out and all poor as dirt. I supported Brexit and I regret the sheer stupidity of leaving. Immigration wore than ever, poverty worse than ever and now dumbasses want imperial metrics back. Can't fix stupid.

  • @oli230
    @oli230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember Ted Heath as a kid, thankfully I was not a vulnerable little boy in his vicinity. What a disgusting person he was.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if he dared to act out his "alleged" perverted ways in 10 Downing Street for the four years he was there?

    • @oli230
      @oli230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John King I have read that some of his activities were on his yacht out at sea where allegedly some of the bodies were dumped. I expect he practiced his evil wherever he though he would not be caught out.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@oli230 Then I assume he never dared to whilst in No. 10. You can understand why Thatcher hated him. But Thatcher herself seemed to be friends with paedophiles. She was a great friend of Jimmy Savile, and had Peter Morrison in her cabinet, who was known by the police and parliament for his attraction to teenage boys.

    • @cnevill2
      @cnevill2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He was odd, single, and difficult, but not a criminal. Baseless allegations by a fraudster several years ago

    • @oli230
      @oli230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cnevill2 people aren’t labelled criminals until they are caught and prosecuted and that never happens to people at his level. To get to the top you have to be corrupt or potentially corruptible because that’s how they are controlled, God forbid there could ever be a free thinking autonomous prime minister, look at BJ, I wonder what his predilection is? When there is a threat to them being exposed for their disgusting deeds they protect each other because many of them are perverts of one type or another. If you don’t believe this then start doing some research. Clue; It all comes back to their God.

  • @haroldkane9714
    @haroldkane9714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ted did things to very young boys, disgusting embarrassment to this country

    • @frankdsouza2425
      @frankdsouza2425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Harold, you should be kaned for your wicked falsehoods. Challenge you to produce a shred of evidence.

    • @shivill2236
      @shivill2236 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Out of curiosity, do you have any proof he did those crimes? I've researched the allegations a bit and I can't find any bits of evidence to support the allegations.

    • @tomvanaarle2622
      @tomvanaarle2622 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whatever happened to "presumed innocent untill proven guilty"?
      Accusations of a ring of child abusers alledgedly consisting of Harvey Proctor, Lord Janner, Lord Brittan and Edward Heath were made by Carl Beech.
      The accusations have been proven false.
      Beech was himself a convicted child abuser and sentenced to 18 years imprisonment for perverting the course of justice in 1991.

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      About 20% of parliament was involved.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shivill2236
      Coincided with the Brexit campaign and therefore should be regarded as disinformation

  • @josechristopher9268
    @josechristopher9268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    L

  • @keshavabhat8695
    @keshavabhat8695 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an old video and has no relevance for current generation and politics.

    • @toff358
      @toff358 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Of course it hasn`t - it`s not intended to! The intention as with all of these Thames tv retrospective videos, is to take a look back at how things were - of interest then to those of us who were around at the time...

    • @toddbosnich9268
      @toddbosnich9268 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      keshava Bhat Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are condemned to repeat them.

    • @syedadeelhussain2691
      @syedadeelhussain2691 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      its good for economic historians. Ask an LSE Economic History grad.

    • @simonlilley
      @simonlilley 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you do not watch these videos you cannot understand where we have come from to be at the point we are at now. As others have said you end up repeating the same mistakes again.

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wasn't born till 78 so this is so important for me and younger to know about this