Gee, that was crazy. But I think it's the first time you didn't say "I ask myself where are they even going on a rough day like this? I can't imagine anything that's fun on a rough day like that except for the fishermen!". Thanks for keeping them coming!
Those say 42’s seem to get more then their fair share of stuffings. I think it’s the hull design, the bow seems to dig in and cut waves rather than climb over.
In round 4 when they get the win the captain gives the we're number one hand sign! I guess some folks can't appreciate the skill level of this drone pilot.
Said it the last time the Say was out and I'll say it again .. that boat has an unforgiving hull design. It works really well under a narrow set of conditions. This isn't your first, second, or even fifth boat. If you screw up, it will utterly destroy you!
@@victorianelson8578 ... agreed on the ugly factor. By the same token, not everyone likes the look of a Lamborghini, but they do perform within the parameters of their design.
One of the extremely rare times when a lake boat doesn't try to become a submarine when coming through Haulover. Is this a first appearance for the second boat? I don't think I've seen anything like that one before. The lower hull almost looks like a Brabus/Axopar but then it flares to nearly a Carolina bow instead of staying slab sided.
The design of the hull at the bow of boat in round two is not a mucher (the bow goes straight down without much of a curve). That will dig into the wave every time. You can see that the other boats that have a musher design at the bow were more successful. This is a design aspect that even sailboat captains and skippers know very well when crossing oceans.
The Say hull is not designed for rough conditions, period. On flat water, however, it is fast and super smooth, with outstanding forward visibility. It does not mean it's a bad design; it just comes down to this: don't run your Harley cruiser in a motocross race.
That brown boat hull design is not designed for these waves. The front of the hull does not ride up enough. Every boat I see with that hull design is just the next wave away from stuffing it.
Ironically I used to go out spear fishing in a 12' tinny with a 10hp outboard, across a bar with chop/waves at least as large as this. Never had a problem.
I'm not sure why, but I started watching your videos rooting for the boats, but now I root for haulover. That was a rough loss on this one. Hopefully, haulover can watch the film and come back stronger.
@@scottgorman7166 Its like buying a flooded car that looks great from the outside and the rest is all junk same with the boats from SE Florida buyer beware JUNK
@@CaptainDayne I knew someone had a cigarette boat similar to the ones in Florida he was doing the same thing until the stern cracked and a huge repair bill
1) The drone shots are great! 2) Hey BG -- I wish you'd do a special episode regarding the boats that have the vertical bow. From watching lots of these videos, I just don't see much of an advantage, and there seems to be lots of disadvantages. What's your take? Thanks!
I've always wondered about cigarette boats. It looks like the engine is all in the rear. So all that space up front, is there below deck cabin space or is that storage space or just completely unused space or what?
My thoughts exactly. On round two I didn't know if that was a demonstration ride or a paid ride. That's certainly not a way to endear boating to any newcomers. Getting soaked like a wet rat in a million dollar boat No thanks
I'm no boat apologist Haulover is a beast but I think you were a little hard on rnd one I thought they had a solid win for the boats the passengers didn't get tossed out of the seats boats should have won in rnd 4 but given it to the lake boat! LOL love the channel TY
Definitely high seas as in big swells. At the very beginning of the video it shows what used to be Ben kramer's boat. A 47' Apache. That's a very popular boat in that neck of the woods. And a nice boat, but I wouldn't wanna be out on those high seas with those huge swells. Lol, that's crazy
I have over 20 years experience of own boats ranging from 20 to 38 feet. I can only say that the Say 42 is a piece of rubbish. Just by looking at the bow design you can tell it won´t perform well in any kind of sea. It would make a great submarine though.....
you and everyone else is saying the same thing the SAY Co should go into the submarine business instard it handles better under water then it does on top you really dont have to be an expert on boats just by looking at the design you know there is a HUGE problem just a Ripple in the water and that boat goes from a boat to a submarine 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@@finster444k Still Laughing every time i watch that video over a million dollar boat and cant even handle a tiny ripple in the water just put a periscope on the boat and call it a day
That first cigarette is a very common boat on all inlet channels. It's almost like yhey run back and forth so they can then go watch themselves on those channels.
The owner of that Say 42, is wondering why getting drenched from a bow tuck, wasn't covered in the brochure. That's a stupid amount of money, for 40 year old bayliner rough water performance.
Keep seeing videos of that boat in round two going back and forth through haulover I suspect that's all they ever intended to do. Make that boat may be a prototype and they're trying to make minor adjustments to get it as good as they can get it.
Notice how calm it is to the left as boats are exiting the jetty. It’s always calmer over there. Why do people stay in the main tidal current and get drenched like that?
They are a Euro design meant to cruise the Greek Islands and such, a great boat for the designed use, not so great on a rough day. Apart from that, the skipper did a poor job.
@@marvindebot3264 There was another one from like a week or 2 ago that stuffed it 3 or 4 times and it wasn't rough. Beautiful boats though. Thanks for the explanation
Oh you mean the Millionaire Submarine the SAY 42😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 everyone is blaming the captain or driver stuffing the boat its the boat itself to me its JUNK bad design just a little ripple in the water and that boat becomes a Submarine LOL
I agree, that's embarrassing at best - and a complete waste of money. If they are trying to make it look iconic like the old wooden Chris Craft - well they missed by a mile!
The manufacturer is the winner here. Who cares what it boats like - if you care, you don't buy this boat, if you don't know or care, then you buy something that a) looks like it's "cool" and b) is more expensive than the other guy's boat. I don't see any losers here
That orange piece of junk was designed for misery. A super low windshield wasn't bad enough, so they added the hard-top bimini to be sure _all_ the water channels perfectly into the passengers' faces. Whoever designed that boat: ya failed!
Big deal! Those waves looked about the same as the ones on an average day in the Columbia River Gorge near Hood River, OR. 5-6' trough to crest with windsurfers and kiteboarders ripping around.
The Apache does not handle rough seas well at all because the front end is too long and too light. It was originally built to run...contraband...and the forward hull needs more ballast than the current owners run in it--for fuel economy reasons.
@@thedevilinthecircuit1414 As you say it's the way they have it set up that's the problem, the hull design is fine for heavy seas but it needs another 1000lb in the bow.
The first clip of the Cigarette was absolutely a win ffs! You gave them a loss because of a heavy landing - in a Cig?? Its what its built for.. The boat and the captain did very well
Not from South Florida looks like it goes from deep water to shallow water ..wind ... changing Tides The same thing where i live there are 2 inlet/outlet one is Narragansett bay and the other one is the Sakonnet River that connects to the Atlantic ocean and waves can get Huge i have seen 70 to 80 foot fishing boats heading out of the bay area an into the open ocean stuffing there bows
what causes the waves to be at that particular spot at the inlet? has the developers placed boulders underwater or merely it occurs on really, really w i n d y days?
A decent skipper in a lake boat can get out dry while an idiot in a million-dollar Say drowns his passengers and causes 100s if not 1000s of dollars damage to the vessel from the water he dumps over everything. I hope that wasn't a charter . . .
The drone shots rule. Those views make it clear how challenging the conditions really are. Great vid.
I thougt the same...
Round 2 - that boat stuffs it every time!
Who woulda thought a little lake boat would bring home the victory…😎
Yeah that was a good piece of piloting.
Gee, that was crazy. But I think it's the first time you didn't say "I ask myself where are they even going on a rough day like this? I can't imagine anything that's fun on a rough day like that except for the fishermen!". Thanks for keeping them coming!
Dude the cigarette nailed it coming in ,good looking boat I say it’s a win for them .
I love how the drivers are always blissfully unaware of their passengers getting crippled in the backseat.
Those say 42’s seem to get more then their fair share of stuffings. I think it’s the hull design, the bow seems to dig in and cut waves rather than climb over.
In round 4 when they get the win the captain gives the we're number one hand sign! I guess some folks can't appreciate the skill level of this drone pilot.
Said it the last time the Say was out and I'll say it again .. that boat has an unforgiving hull design. It works really well under a narrow set of conditions. This isn't your first, second, or even fifth boat. If you screw up, it will utterly destroy you!
The Say is just ugly.
@@victorianelson8578 ... agreed on the ugly factor. By the same token, not everyone likes the look of a Lamborghini, but they do perform within the parameters of their design.
One of the extremely rare times when a lake boat doesn't try to become a submarine when coming through Haulover. Is this a first appearance for the second boat? I don't think I've seen anything like that one before. The lower hull almost looks like a Brabus/Axopar but then it flares to nearly a Carolina bow instead of staying slab sided.
LOL.... #2 @ 1:00 , that's why we LOVVVVVVE this channel!
But hate those EU boats :
The design of the hull at the bow of boat in round two is not a mucher (the bow goes straight down without much of a curve). That will dig into the wave every time. You can see that the other boats that have a musher design at the bow were more successful. This is a design aspect that even sailboat captains and skippers know very well when crossing oceans.
The Say hull is not designed for rough conditions, period. On flat water, however, it is fast and super smooth, with outstanding forward visibility. It does not mean it's a bad design; it just comes down to this: don't run your Harley cruiser in a motocross race.
That brown boat hull design is not designed for these waves. The front of the hull does not ride up enough. Every boat I see with that hull design is just the next wave away from stuffing it.
Ironically I used to go out spear fishing in a 12' tinny with a 10hp outboard, across a bar with chop/waves at least as large as this. Never had a problem.
No 2 - this boat is just a very expensive failure in construction, like Tesla on sea. 🤣😂
It looks great though, but after watching so many videos of them, they don't do well in rough seas.
get a nice 50ft Viking cruising through half throttle that would give Haulover no chance.
I'm not sure why, but I started watching your videos rooting for the boats, but now I root for haulover. That was a rough loss on this one. Hopefully, haulover can watch the film and come back stronger.
Dreaming of 5-0 Haulover wins.
It's interesting to see these boats hitting the waves, knowing that the water is like concrete. The hull takes a real pounding.
Yea you never want to buy a used boat from the SE area of Florida.
Yeah people dont realize how bad that tears up a hull!
@@scottgorman7166 Its like buying a flooded car that looks great from the outside and the rest is all junk same with the boats from SE Florida buyer beware JUNK
@@CaptainDayne I knew someone had a cigarette boat similar to the ones in Florida he was doing the same thing until the stern cracked and a huge repair bill
Love the drone shots!
The Say design engineers should stick to designing crayons
This channel is a chiropractor’s goldmine
Ya had me on the edge of my seat today! 😂😂
I reckon it's a huge win for the skipper. Me personally I'd be in tears laughing at my passengers which is why I often go out on my own😊
Been watching for a while now.... #2 made me say "oh wow" out loud.
Sucky hull design. Low bow volume = nosedive express.
Nice drone work. Looks like there are multiple drones in tour drone shot.
Any mid air collisions?
1) The drone shots are great!
2) Hey BG -- I wish you'd do a special episode regarding the boats that have the vertical bow. From watching lots of these videos, I just don't see much of an advantage, and there seems to be lots of disadvantages. What's your take?
Thanks!
They don’t seem to handle ruff water well at all! Think there’s a very good reason that style went out of favor.
They suck, next question? ;
In case you’re curious- I believe Drone makes an appearance right at the end.
Love your videos!
I've always wondered about cigarette boats. It looks like the engine is all in the rear. So all that space up front, is there below deck cabin space or is that storage space or just completely unused space or what?
Would be interesting to interview guests after these rides.
My thoughts exactly. On round two I didn't know if that was a demonstration ride or a paid ride. That's certainly not a way to endear boating to any newcomers. Getting soaked like a wet rat in a million dollar boat No thanks
Yes and interview them after they have spinal surgery for compressed vertebrae 😮
WOW, round 2 was entirely amazing.
Love watching these fun boat videos
I'm no boat apologist Haulover is a beast but I think you were a little hard on rnd one I thought they had a solid win for the boats the passengers didn't get tossed out of the seats boats should have won in rnd 4 but given it to the lake boat! LOL love the channel TY
Great video and so much better with the sound OFF!
Definitely high seas as in big swells. At the very beginning of the video it shows what used to be Ben kramer's boat. A 47' Apache. That's a very popular boat in that neck of the woods. And a nice boat, but I wouldn't wanna be out on those high seas with those huge swells. Lol, that's crazy
I have over 20 years experience of own boats ranging from 20 to 38 feet. I can only say that the Say 42 is a piece of rubbish. Just by looking at the bow design you can tell it won´t perform well in any kind of sea. It would make a great submarine though.....
ugly too
you and everyone else is saying the same thing the SAY Co should go into the submarine business instard it handles better under water then it does on top you really dont have to be an expert on boats just by looking at the design you know there is a HUGE problem just a Ripple in the water and that boat goes from a boat to a submarine 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
All those vertical bows are a nightmare!
It definitely looks Bow Heavy.
@@finster444k Still Laughing every time i watch that video over a million dollar boat and cant even handle a tiny ripple in the water just put a periscope on the boat and call it a day
Say has no business being in the ocean, it’s a 2 million dollar bay boat.
What brand drone was used
What is the vessel in the closing shot?
SeaVee is the Master of the Swells and chop!
Dunno about the second boat. Those drinks look like they stayed intact- that should be a half point for the boat!
Great episode very entertaining💯😎
Finally, a decent video from Bronco basement boy. Now you're getting somewhere.... finally
beautiful footage
I do not miss making boats specific too that inlet at all. That job was for the birds so to speak.
Kidney busting with a taste of salt water!
Round two, love that vandutch getting stuffed, and yet the people sit there pretending they're not wet LOL.
Haha ! I saw five boat wins. Beer is my friend.
That first cigarette is a very common boat on all inlet channels. It's almost like yhey run back and forth so they can then go watch themselves on those channels.
The owner of that Say 42, is wondering why getting drenched from a bow tuck, wasn't covered in the brochure. That's a stupid amount of money, for 40 year old bayliner rough water performance.
Keep seeing videos of that boat in round two going back and forth through haulover I suspect that's all they ever intended to do. Make that boat may be a prototype and they're trying to make minor adjustments to get it as good as they can get it.
Notice how calm it is to the left as boats are exiting the jetty. It’s always calmer over there. Why do people stay in the main tidal current and get drenched like that?
That say was gorgeous. But they got slammed
I have a Hurricane that I use on the Finger Lakes in NY. No way would I ever want to try to go through Haulover with that.
Im in Ireland but it sure like to try my '75 Fletcher Arrow through this inlet. Yes i do have arm bands.
Wouldn't mind hearing the engine roar just a little more on some of those big engine boats
That 2nd round boat looks nice but that's a strange design and it doesn't seem to take waves to well
They are a Euro design meant to cruise the Greek Islands and such, a great boat for the designed use, not so great on a rough day. Apart from that, the skipper did a poor job.
@@marvindebot3264 There was another one from like a week or 2 ago that stuffed it 3 or 4 times and it wasn't rough. Beautiful boats though. Thanks for the explanation
Ladies testing their Tenas !
2nd round boat achieved submarine status
Oh you mean the Millionaire Submarine the SAY 42😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 everyone is blaming the captain or driver stuffing the boat its the boat itself to me its JUNK bad design just a little ripple in the water and that boat becomes a Submarine LOL
Stunning that so many Americans no shlte about boats. If they did, they'd have twin hull cats for these conditions.
And that cigarette almost made it lol
The pounding they got meets the pounding they’re gonna get.
classic cigarette took the waves better than that stupid looking orange space ship looking thing that probably cost more than most peoples homes.
First Cigarette boat should of been given the win and not Haulover but good video.
Not after seeing the looks on the passengers reactions.
@@FamilyFlippers But is was about stuffing and not the passengers in the back of the boat.
@@ABfromWindsor Valid point, either way someone got stuffed lol
OH come on man ! #1 was a win for the boats. Are you an NFL ref on Sundays ? Where are you lookin'?
That Say 42 is such a piece of crap. Why do people buy those stupid gimmicky hulls? Note how the SeaVee handles things with no problem.
I agree, that's embarrassing at best - and a complete waste of money. If they are trying to make it look iconic like the old wooden Chris Craft - well they missed by a mile!
An imbalance of money and brain power
Agree, absolutely awful design for anything but light chop.
They look horrible.
The manufacturer is the winner here. Who cares what it boats like - if you care, you don't buy this boat, if you don't know or care, then you buy something that a) looks like it's "cool" and b) is more expensive than the other guy's boat. I don't see any losers here
Those cigarette boats land so smoothly when they go airborne
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Have you seen anyone sink there?
Miami must be the ruptured disc capital of the world.
Why do they turn around so often?
million $ lake boat..LOL.......................................~~~~~~~~~~~~GETS SUBBED
That SAY 42 is a design disaster!
The old saying stands , 6 or 60 . I vote for 60 .
I'm laughing as BG gives the win to Haulover at the very end of the run, knowing the crying and whining I'll read in the comments later !!!!!!!!!
That's why he does it, he knows it creates comments and that's good for the algorithm.
@@marvindebot3264 And the people are indignant about it! Too funny!
Round 2; you can't buy experience. This guy's lucky he's in a big boat, any smaller and he'd have been in serious trouble.
I'd like to hear them dogs bark on that cigarette
It is crazy
That orange piece of junk was designed for misery. A super low windshield wasn't bad enough, so they added the hard-top bimini to be sure _all_ the water channels perfectly into the passengers' faces. Whoever designed that boat: ya failed!
Boat 3 that U-turned is a lake boat.
Big deal! Those waves looked about the same as the ones on an average day in the Columbia River Gorge near Hood River, OR. 5-6' trough to crest with windsurfers and kiteboarders ripping around.
The Apache is still king.
That's my dream boat, old 69.
The Apache does not handle rough seas well at all because the front end is too long and too light. It was originally built to run...contraband...and the forward hull needs more ballast than the current owners run in it--for fuel economy reasons.
@@thedevilinthecircuit1414 As you say it's the way they have it set up that's the problem, the hull design is fine for heavy seas but it needs another 1000lb in the bow.
They're taking the difficult route on purpose, just for the thrill of it.
...Are you implying that there is a less ' Difficult Route' getting out of the Marina into the OcEAN 🌊?!?
The first clip of the Cigarette was absolutely a win ffs! You gave them a loss because of a heavy landing - in a Cig?? Its what its built for.. The boat and the captain did very well
what did not end well?
W H Y ' S IT SO ROUGH AT THAT INLET/OUTLET ❓❓☹️
Not from South Florida looks like it goes from deep water to shallow water ..wind ... changing Tides The same thing where i live there are 2 inlet/outlet one is Narragansett bay and the other one is the Sakonnet River that connects to the Atlantic ocean and waves can get Huge i have seen 70 to 80 foot fishing boats heading out of the bay area an into the open ocean stuffing there bows
#2 looked cool but that hull design didn't work very well
I've gone through Haulover and out on the water on a day like that. Miserable.
what causes the waves to be at that particular spot at the inlet?
has the developers placed boulders underwater or merely it occurs on really, really w i n d y days?
Why would even go out in that surf.
I miss blue top ledgen
A lot of friendships ruined in that pass.
Why don't they fix this place?
That orange colored center console is the worst hull design I think I've ever seen
She broke her hip and her first alert button don't work on haulover Inlet.
should have speed limit through there. Orange cig boat still too fast exiting inlet
Calling BS on round 1. That cig crushed it.
A decent skipper in a lake boat can get out dry while an idiot in a million-dollar Say drowns his passengers and causes 100s if not 1000s of dollars damage to the vessel from the water he dumps over everything. I hope that wasn't a charter . . .
The first boat won.
The say 42 is really old. Must be desperate for footage. And that 1st round Cigarette absolutely won