Schumann: Violinkonzert ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Sayaka Shoji ∙ Constantinos Carydis

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  • Robert Schumann:
    Violinkonzert d-Moll ∙
    I. In kräftigem, nicht zu schnellem Tempo 00:00 ∙
    II. Langsam 15:13 ∙
    III. Lebhaft, doch nicht schnell 20:53 ∙
    hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony ∙
    Sayaka Shoji, Violine ∙
    Constantinos Carydis, Dirigent ∙
    hr-Sinfoniekonzert ∙
    Alte Oper Frankfurt, 26. Januar 2024 ∙
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  • @lugo196234
    @lugo196234 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This violinist is one of those who transmit something. He has such a warm, high-flying sound that is the best there is today.

  • @markovelikonja5399
    @markovelikonja5399 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    She's a wonderful violinist and her TH-cam videos have millions of views. I'm surprised that she never seems to have played with the local orchestra anywhere I've lived. Hats off to the Frankfurt Radio Symphony for engaging her.

    • @belmarmom
      @belmarmom หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Sayaka is a first class violinist.

    • @yawenliu6648
      @yawenliu6648 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I live in NYC, we have A LOT of violinists coming here to perform. She came many years ago to perform with the NYPhil and on a small stage at Carnegie Hall. In 2019, I went to Washington DC to attend her recital at a private mansion. I would never forget that night, in fact i got to tell her how amazing she was after the concert. It seems the biggest myth to me that she doesn't get invited to NYC these days. She is phenomenal musician!

  • @rafaelernestorosabal8734
    @rafaelernestorosabal8734 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The pleasure of discovering an unknown piece from a known and beloved composer is increasingly rare as you become older!!

  • @user-jm8km3hq5l
    @user-jm8km3hq5l หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I personally consider this recording is my reference recording of this piece from now on. The best I've ever heard.

    • @yawenliu6648
      @yawenliu6648 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Her other recordings of major violin concertos and sonatas are also spectacular, Brahms, Prokofiev, Paganini, Shostakovich, Sibelius, Ligeti ...

    • @user-jm8km3hq5l
      @user-jm8km3hq5l 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@yawenliu6648 Indeed, I love her Shostakovich 1&2 album from 2012. I see her program this year she will play No.1 with Esa-Pekka Salonen / SF Symphony, very well deserved.

  • @h-mh93
    @h-mh93 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Truly extraordinary - I am delighted by the sound of the violin - clear, crisp, emotional - without once being sentimental, virtuoso without grand-standing. Perfect tempi for the 3rd set - the bow string dances the polonoaise and the legs wan to follow. I heard so many recordings were they want to take this too fast! I hope we see more of this great violinist in Frankfurt. The orchestra performs flawless as ever - the conductor is superb - I will have to save this to my favorites right away! BRAVO

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Just listening to her wonderful and graceful performance makes I forget about the trouble and annoyances of this transient world

  • @tomo-cx2ek
    @tomo-cx2ek 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Extremely perfect Schumann. Precious.

  • @robertmanno5749
    @robertmanno5749 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    A very difficult concerto to successfully make congeal, for soloist, conductor and orchestra.This is a superb performance.The Langsam is one of my very favorite slow movements in the entire concerto repertoire.

  • @TAKIN-kn5rh
    @TAKIN-kn5rh หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The most convincing version of this concerto. Great.

  • @Dwchidwchi
    @Dwchidwchi หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    World-class violin playing, gorgeous sound and noble musicianship

  • @sbphotography3751
    @sbphotography3751 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What a lovely performance of this underrated concerto - so nice to see a soloist who doesn't have to rely on a score!

  • @theoldar
    @theoldar หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    This is a mysteriously neglected work. It speaks very deeply to Schumann's pain.

    • @aysaraktimur2064
      @aysaraktimur2064 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It is not misterious! Both Joachim and Clara heavily suppressed the work, stating that the work reflects Schumann’s deepening psychosis. Although this assessment is true to a certain extend, since the music’s dark tone and obsessive repetitions can attest that, the concerto in fact masterfully constructed and thematic material, flow of music, and orchestration are not so different from Schuman’s other major works, especially Symphony No.2 can be seen as closely related. Unfortunately, both Joachim and Clara were so influential that their negative opinions and heavy suppression took very long time to be neutralized. Therefore, this wonderful piece of music with philosophical depths has started to receive performances and recordings more and more often only lately. One other good point is that the performers quit performing the cut version, and today it is almost always played in uncut version.
      Isn’t the second movement one of the most beautiful and touching slow movements in violin concerto literature. Although it is both melodically and structurally quite different, it still reminds me the slow movement of Tchaikovsky’s violin concerto. Probably the difference is that, while Tchaikovsky’s slow movement is more elegiac, like an elegy, Schumann’s slow movement infused heavily with desolation and sadness, sorrow.

    • @theoldar
      @theoldar หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aysaraktimur2064 I understand why it was suppressed at the time. What I don't understand is why it hasn't become more popular in the century since it was first performed.

    • @resorcinolamide
      @resorcinolamide หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From what I’ve read this concerto is getting more recognition recently. It’s been performed more by orchestras, but due to the piece being incomplete it is not met with positive opinions.

    • @aysaraktimur2064
      @aysaraktimur2064 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@resorcinolamide No! The piece was complete! It was Joachim’s and Clara’s negative opinions and suppression of the piece that caused it. It is in the history, now; we are lucky enough for being able to listen to this beautiful piece of music in full. 😇

    • @morisoba2550
      @morisoba2550 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I guess Paradise and the Peri is more neglected than this work.

  • @washingtonferreirateles9451
    @washingtonferreirateles9451 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    It's such a shame that this work is so neglegted. It should stand on the same level as Bruch and Mendelsohn.
    The fact that Schumann was able to compose such a beautiful and profound piece while being deeply troubled by his disease is almost a miracle.
    Also, this is the best recording since Menuhin's in 1938.

    • @americanidiot5563
      @americanidiot5563 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Big Recommendation: Isabelle Faust

  • @yoneshima123
    @yoneshima123 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Anyone who can say whether this work is good or bad is probably someone who doesn't know the beauty and spiritual dynamism of the composer's portrayal of his own life in musical notes, and the musician's reproduction of it in the sound of the notes. This record, in which Schumann's emotional pain and suffering are so beautifully expressed in his work and beautifully reproduced through his performances, is a treasure to us.

  • @user-ux6cj9yj5u
    @user-ux6cj9yj5u วันที่ผ่านมา

    色んな方の演奏を聞いていつも第三楽章のところでなにか物足りなさを感じていたのですが、今回、こんなに明るく、キレが良くて美しい曲だったんだと実感しました。第二楽章の美しさは本当に心に染み入ります。素敵な演奏に感謝。

  • @jameschicken1008
    @jameschicken1008 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    so lovely to hear one of my favourite violinists playing one of my favourite but also under rated concertos in the repertoire

  • @notarbolz926
    @notarbolz926 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bewegende und wunderschöne Aufführung dieses romantisch doch meisterhaft komponierten Violinkonzerts mit seidigem und fabelhaftem Klang der virtuosen Soloviolinistin und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen des hr-Sinfonieorchesters. Der kluge Maestro leitet das erfahrene Orchester im gut phrasierten Tempo und mit geschickt analysierter Dynamik und Agogik. Wahrlich wunderbar!

    • @peterparsifal1687
      @peterparsifal1687 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ein Tempo gut zu phrasieren, das ist wirkliche Kunst. Wenn das Herr Riemann gewusst hätte.

  • @sergioalves5278
    @sergioalves5278 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good morning, thanks. From Brasil.

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wunderschöne und lebhafte Aufführung dieses romantischen und perfekt komponierten Konzerts mit seidigem doch gut phrasiertem Ton der genialen Solovioline sowie gut harmonisierten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen der anderen Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt melodisch. Im Kontrast klingt der dritte Satz echt lebhaft und auch überzeugend. Der intelligente und ebenso geniale Dirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im veränderlichen Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Alles ist wunderbar!

  • @tubule22857
    @tubule22857 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've never heard of Schumann’s violin concerto before.

    • @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356
      @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It has a very sad history. It was one of the last compositions by Schumann, and Joachim to whom it was dedicated considered to keep the work without publishing when 4 months later Schumann attempted suicide. Later, Schumann said that the melody of the slow movement (a very sweet one) was dictated to him by the spirits of Mendelssohn and Schubert. In his will, Joachim stated that it shouldn't be published nor played until after 100 years of Schumann death. However, relatives of the violinst 30 years before the expected date said that the spirit of Schumann told them to publish and play it. So at that time it was for the first time played for an audience.

  • @aysaraktimur2064
    @aysaraktimur2064 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Isn’t the second movement one of the most beautiful and touching slow movements in violin concerto literature. Although it is both melodically and structurally quite different, it still reminds me the slow movement of Tchaikovsky’s violin concerto. Probably the difference is that, while Tchaikovsky’s slow movement is more elegiac, like an elegy, Schumann’s slow movement infused heavily with desolation and sadness, sorrow.

  • @MH-jg1ef
    @MH-jg1ef หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love❤

  • @user-ur1ke5zc3j
    @user-ur1ke5zc3j 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    シューマンのバイオリン協奏曲なかなかいいですね。

  • @brkahn
    @brkahn หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It is horribly faithful. Probably inspired by Harnoncourt's performance with Kremer. Masterful technically and conceptually.

  • @aysaraktimur2064
    @aysaraktimur2064 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is not misterious! Both Joachim and Clara heavily suppressed the work, stating that the work reflects Schumann’s deepening psychosis. Although this assessment is true to a certain extend, since the music’s dark tone and obsessive repetitions can attest that, the concerto in fact masterfully constructed and thematic material, flow of music, and orchestration are not so different from Schuman’s other major works, especially Symphony No.2 can be seen as closely related. Unfortunately, both Joachim and Clara were so influential that their negative opinions and heavy suppression took very long time to be neutralized. Therefore, this wonderful piece of music with philosophical depths has started to receive performances and recordings more and more often only lately. One other good point is that the performers quit performing the cut version, and today it is almost always played in uncut version.

  • @marcelouz1
    @marcelouz1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is an extraordinary masterpiece for violin and orchestra, I've never heard it i, s noticed that Schubert open the way for the future violin concertos between the romanticism and post romanticism, Beethoven had reason to say that this young composer has the " Devine spark "

    • @h-mh93
      @h-mh93 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Robert Schuhmann - not Franz Schubert! Schubert has not written a Violin concerto sadly - to my knowledge.

  • @changchp
    @changchp หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How much idia did Brahms take from this concerto when he wrote his world peak D Major?

  • @kiyusu2140
    @kiyusu2140 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌❤❤

  • @khlee9071
    @khlee9071 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I would think Ms. Shoji is playing a viola if I just look at a picture, It seems quite big.

    • @palladin331
      @palladin331 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a standard size Strad. Her frame is quite small.

  • @user-jm8km3hq5l
    @user-jm8km3hq5l หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    21.40 the oboe lady 😊

  • @paralucent3653
    @paralucent3653 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This violin concerto must have one of the longest lead-ins to the soloist's debut. It takes nerves of steel to stand in front of an orchestra for 2 minutes with nothing to do!

    • @user-jm8km3hq5l
      @user-jm8km3hq5l หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably Beethoven Violin Concerto is a little bit longer at the start.

  • @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356
    @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A very moving work with a sad history. 15:39 This is the melody Schumann told was dictated to him by the spirits of Mendelssohn and Schubert after attempting suicide in 1854.

    • @nigelmorley5414
      @nigelmorley5414 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was Beethoven and Schubert, not Mendelssohn .

    • @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356
      @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nigelmorley5414 Yes, maybe. The source I read said Mendelssohn..

  • @judithnelson1665
    @judithnelson1665 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It was Clara and Brahmns (and none knew or revered Schumann's music more) who first had doubts about this concerto. Strickly musically, I think they are right; the work is repetitive, somewhat ponderous and lacks R.S'.s usual inventiveness. But...philosophically/aesthically, the concerto has power and beauty. So there- a mixed bag. Good we have it.

  • @papagen00
    @papagen00 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not Robert's best work, but a good performance nonetheless.

  • @sergioalves5278
    @sergioalves5278 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    She is talentous and beautiful.

    • @hipolit2200
      @hipolit2200 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      incel alert!

    • @chtidede
      @chtidede หลายเดือนก่อน

      Le talent et la beauté, ça s'appelle " la classe ! "

    • @sergioalves5278
      @sergioalves5278 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chtidede Perfect !

    • @edbane1656
      @edbane1656 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@hipolit2200Thank you for pointing yourself out.

    • @hipolit2200
      @hipolit2200 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@edbane1656 You are dull

  • @palladin331
    @palladin331 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ms. Shoji is marvelous, as always. As noted, it is a problematic piece with an odd history (suppression of it by Clara Schumann and Joseph Joachim). Joachim had a rough reading of it (he was distracted and unprepared, as the story goes). He never had the chance to revise it with the composer. While we can now appreciate this great concerto thanks to recordings since the late 1930s (Szeryng championed it and his recording is, predictably, wonderful), much of the solo part is in the middle register (and very little in the upper register), and the repetitions seem excessive at times. I feel Joachim simply didn't like it (it is quite awkward) and regretted not being able to make changes with Schumann himself. Be that as it may, it is a concerto that justifiably gives the performer the rare opportunity to make suble changes, as most do.

  • @TheMajortanner
    @TheMajortanner 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very robust orchestra.

  • @jasuruz5525
    @jasuruz5525 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Men birinchi

  • @drgustavbakter4735
    @drgustavbakter4735 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The performers do a good job but the problem is that the concerto is not very good. It's very repetitive and as heavy as a ton of bricks. The whole piece sounds like a completed puzzle with multiple pieces misplaced.

  • @edwardweaver1467
    @edwardweaver1467 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Suite already.

  • @watching7650
    @watching7650 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Flawless performance of a totally uninspiring piece that lacks a single captivating or original idea, or even a leading thread (as is too often the case with Schumann.) Or even a notable technical bravura challenge to make up for that.

  • @nigelmorley5414
    @nigelmorley5414 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    First movement too slow, lacks the drama and passionate under current necesseary to make this music really come alive

  • @user-lq1sj3oi5w
    @user-lq1sj3oi5w หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is very good virtuoso violin-playing, excellent fingering and precise intonation, however Madame Shoji needs some work on bowing technique, such as playing before a mirror or watching HIMARI.

    • @ViolinfanaticOriginal
      @ViolinfanaticOriginal 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      🤦🏾‍♀️ Shoji's bowing is amazing. One of the most sought-after bowing techniques. Stop.

    • @user-lq1sj3oi5w
      @user-lq1sj3oi5w 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ViolinfanaticOriginal Here you may watch a violinist with impeccable technique: th-cam.com/video/xVpkTD5q_p8/w-d-xo.html

  • @bobcochran2890
    @bobcochran2890 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting that a composer who wrote marvelous string chamber music with soaring melodic lines would stumble with a violin concerto. Violinist friends tell me it’s just not a very good piece to show off the instrument. This soloist and orchestra did a marvelous job with this rather ungrateful concerto.

    • @achilles231
      @achilles231 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a difficult work to understand, let alone play. It was beyond even Clara Schumann who suppressed publication after Schumann died.
      This performance is very intelligently conducted, and gets the tricky balance right. Shoji takes the first movement a little too slow, so the orchestra struggles to find the long melodic line in the tuttis I think.

  • @Cycle-Tourer
    @Cycle-Tourer หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't like this concert. Quite bizarre. Very cold. lack of true melodies. lack of deepness. Lack of soul. Schumann far from his best.

    • @nigelmorley5414
      @nigelmorley5414 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      have you not listened to the slow movement ? One of the most beautiful melodies of all time, Second subject of the first movement, genuine, first rate Schumann

  • @iggyreilly2463
    @iggyreilly2463 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She plays with very little understanding of the music.

    • @peterwhyte-zl1kv
      @peterwhyte-zl1kv หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Please explain how you know this.

    • @iggyreilly2463
      @iggyreilly2463 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @peterwhyte-zl1kv Performers who understand what the notes on the page mean (beyond mere designations of sound and rhythm) play with feeling, something this violinist decidedly lacks. Long stretches of this performance consist of no phrasing, rubato, agogics, nothing -- just notes. This work needs as much help as possible as it is problematic; I applaud anyone who chooses to take it on because it's challenging. Sadly, the challenge is not met by this performer.

    • @morisoba2550
      @morisoba2550 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ssyaka Shoji sometimes plays in a restrained way, not because she doesn't understand the music, but because she intends to let the music itself sing naturally.