JJ Redick Reveals His 2023-24 NBA Awards Votes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 เม.ย. 2024
- JJ Redick shares who he voted for on his NBA Awards ballot for the 2023-24 season, including MVP, All-NBA teams, All-Defense teams, Defensive Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year, All-Rookie teams, Coach of the Year, Most Improved Player, Clutch Player of the Year, and Sixth Man of the Year.
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Boban as clutch player of the year is a truly daring choice, this is why we respect you JJ
you mean Bogdan?
Boban gave the people free chicken. He is the true MVP.
😅
@@Wladislavfacts 🗣️
Boban can win it also in the WNBA with his name and the players real boobs
Having Jalen Green as MVP is a bold move JJ, but i respect it
It's the hair that made the difference ... 😁
If he pins this comment it’s instant 100k views
Aye that late season comeback was really impressive. Can't believe the Rockets went from the 11th seed to the 6th seed so impressive man.
Who's Jalen Green? 🤔
😂😂😂
The tone of this video makes you think JJ was picking which one of his friends he has to send to the gulags😂
He has this tone bc his choices could change a lot of nba players lives. Certain contracts get a bonus if you make an All nba team or defensive team, etc. He said all this at the beginning btw
@@ABNclips there is always one of you. Yeah no duh moron. It’s called humor.
Sounds like he’s naming the Hunger Games candidates
@@ABNclipsOh no, instead of making 60 million they will only make 50. What will they do??? How will they be able to feed their families!?
@@ABNclips Don't be dramatic G, a bonus isn't life changing for NBA players.
Picking Adrian Griffin as your Coach of the year is wild but I respect it JJ
He better picking up his nose than players
Luka not winning the MVP is going to be the biggest robbery of the century.
Harden averaged 36.9 PPG and didn’t win it
Yeah man the second or third best player not winning is gonna be a massive robbery 😂
Not really. MJ, Kobe, Bron, Shaq ect have all been robbed of very deserving MVPS.
Bro Jokic is better
it’s not a robbery. Luka had an amazing season, but Jokic had just as amazing a season. don’t let your bias make you toxic
Derrick White MVP we all know that
Derrick White finals MVP
I'll see you back here in two months
@@lucalemay9997I’m a C’s fan and no you won’t lmao
@@lucalemay9997 i hope so my brother
Celtics are the like the suns from a couple years ago
LOL!!
The fact that Victor Wembenyama is in conversation for all NBA third team, defensive player of the year, and undoubtably rookie of the year is a testament and itself.
I just want to remind everybody that Victor is in all these conversations and he said himself that he was not satisfied with what he did this year…. In a couple of years we are going to witness Victor WembenMAMBA Lord willing
I agree Victor is good tall player, but you can’t be happy with his last name length of 25 letters and getting loner every day and every game
If he stays healthy and Spurs dont mess this up, he will be in GOAT convo.
Let’s just hope he doesn’t take a trip to Colorado
@@hardliketissues7463 whats wrong with colorado ?
@@hookseybaby The joker🃏
Joker is the 8th in total steals and the third in defensive rtg. Not a bad defender at all
Can't block a shot or close out. His number's is really a team defenseive numbers. Aaron Gordon is a big time defender. Jokic does not protect the rim.
@@Gnofgrating jokic’s defense is tough because he doesn’t do the typical rim protector big man things as well as you’d like, but he does a lot of the less noticed stuff quite well just because of his insane awareness and quick hands. I do think numbers like dbpm probably overstate his defensive value, but people say that he plays “no defense” and the like are underselling it a lot.
@@peacebone8112 the number one job of a center is to protect the rim. NUMBER ONE. This goes back to Bill Russel whom I saw play.
@@Gnofg measuring how good a player is at defense should really be about the sum total of their defensive actions, not just the thing you think their job should be.
@@Gnofg the number one job of any player is to figure out the best qualities of each player with the whole picture team effort to defend baskets being made
Picking Doc Rivers as your Coach of the year is wild but I respect it JJ
Doc rivers sucks! He should be fired already
@@alansnow1129 he is trolling obviously.
@@Roadrunnerz45no it's not obvious he's trolling. If he is, then he shouldn't. Trolling is for teenagers.
I think it's a lesson to watch the video and not search for comments meant to get attention @@cartierjoe
Darvin Ham almost had it
No Bol Bol? Shaq gonna be pissed cuz they always hyping up this Wembanyama guy.
Shaq doesn't hype bol bol. He just points out when people say wow look at what wemby did that they've already seen it done by bol bol. At no point has he said bol bol is better or a better defender. Shaq knows there's more to a good player than just talent and height. He always says bol bol is too lazy.
@@acestar8_ Bol Bol hasn't been doing anything like Wemby lmao. Bol manages to be a net negative defender even with his frame and his offense isn't good either. Just because he's tall doesn't mean he's doing the same things as Wemby
@@Ho_Lii_Fuk that's not what shaq or I was saying. Wemby will do an offensive move and people will say that's never been done before, shaq will then say yes we have, bol bol has done it. Again it's not comparing the two it's just stating that mostly offensive moves like a step back, between the legs, 3 pointer has been done by a 7'3 person before
@@acestar8_ I get where you're coming from, but we have NOT seen Wemby's handles on Bol Bol
@@paratame105 check out the video bol bol most freakish plays of the 2022-23 season. Most of what wembys done offensively is on there. Again not saying he's better just backing up shaqs point that wemby isn't the first. Doesn't take away from wembys greatness
The fact that you said Jokic and gave post all-star break as a reason when Mavs came out of all star a little rocky but then went from 8th to fully securing 5th seed while Denver were 2nd and ended 2nd is WILD!!!
Denver still had the best record after the ASB. Jokic is clearly and by far the most valuable player. It's not even remotely close
I think even Luka would disagree, cause jokic is clearly, the best player in the nba rn
You keep using that word, wild. I dont think it means what you think it means.
this is bold, publicly announcing his votes. i respect JJ a lot, and this year with mind the game and him doing this, i truly think the NBA should seriously think about bringing him in as an exec as well. he is slowly becoming a very influential voice for the game of basketball and he can help take the sport to even greater heights with his intelligence and trust that he's built with the fans of the sport. love you JJ, we need more people like you talking about sport and bring respect back into the sport, especially with all the gambling issues taking a forefront in conversations these days.
We need good journalists to hold people in power accountable. Sending them into the Lion's den, where they can no longer say what they want to say, doesn't always work out as well as you might like.
That silent diss on Doc Rivers lmao
facts lmaooo
I caught that diss, even though it was silent
We all were thinking it
time stamp?
@@tshimomogudi51He sets up the comparison of Mazula to Rivers at 12:32 "a coach who gets in the way of that" is meant to be Doc
I 100% agree with Andre Iguodala as Clutch player of the year after saving planet earth from the aliens during the eclipse.
Reminds me of that legendary Max Kellerman quote lmao. "1 shot? Fate of the universe on the line? The martians got the deathbeam pointed at the Earth? I want Igodala!"
Wemby is the DPOY and ROTY. JJ just made the point when Wemby is off the floor worst defense. When he's on the court top 5 defense. But he still gives it to Gobert whether Rudy is on or off the floor the defensive rating stays similar. Give Wemby both awards he was on a terrible team and played well and kept getting better.
And it's not a "top5" award, it's the best defensive player of the year. And Gobert is better than Wemby in literally every aspect except blocks. Gobert created the defensive mentality for the Wolves, which lead them to the nr1 defense in the league. Wemby on the other hand, is 2nd in the league on turnovers.
That's a lie Wemby has him smoked in all categories accept for not being on a winning team.
@@Meta4XReaL Are you stupid? Players shoot on average 5-8% WORSE vs Gobert. He's ahead in literally every defensive metric. Wemba has him on offense, but the award is DEFENSIVE player notthing else. Oh, and Gobert has better rating with 5 more min played per game, less turnovers in that time and 2 more rebounds per game. Gobert's defense wins games. Wembys doesnt. Go read what "defense" means.
Wemby has almost twice as many Steals, Deflections and Blocks as Gobert, in less minutes. His blocks end up in Spurs hands at an unheard of rate. He effects more 3's than any centre. He should also get defensive credit for his ability to start fastbreaks. Wemby and Joker are the only big guys who do that so well. They turn a defensive rebound or block onto a quick outlet pass which creates easy points. Gobert doesn't have that ability and its an important part of being a defender.
@@addytrolla2535 Incorrect. Gobert leads the defensive winshares by a mile, almost double of Wemby. And steals? Jokic averages more steals than Wemby, so he's a defensive player candidate? The only metric Wemba has is blocks where he leads by a lot. Opponents score on average 30.9p in the paint vs Gobert. They score 32.4 vs Wemby. Opponents average 49.2% from 2 and 36% from 3 vs Gobert. They shoot 54.6 from 2 and 36.9% from 3 vs Wemby. Gobert has 697 defensive rebounds. Wemby has 594. So no, stop smoking what you're smoking. Gobert is BY FAR the better defender. Oh and the most important part? Gobert's defense makes a difference.
AD not being on your defensive team is crazy
Positionless all-defensive team! 10 players who had better defensive impact than AD. 10!!! Channel --> Ignore.
The diminish LeBron's help
Who would you take out?
We saw AD struggling defensively in some (not a lot) games. It shouldn't be the case for a all-defensive team player.
@@yopyop6166we saw the runaway DPOY struggle
JJ Reddick's Individual Votes
Most Valuable Player: Nikola Jokic
Most Improved Player: Tyrese Maxey
6th Man: Naz Reid
Defensive POY: Rudy Gobert
Rookie of the Year: Victor Wembanyama
Coach of the Year: Mark Daigneault
Clutch Player: Steph Curry
First Team:
Luka Doncic
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Jayson Tatum
Nikola Jokic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Second team:
Jalen Brunson
Anthony Edwards
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Domantas Sabonis
Third team:
Tyrese Haliburton
Jaylen Brown
Stephen Curry
LeBron James
Anthony Davis
All-defensive first team:
Alex Caruso
Herb Jones
Rudy Gobert
Victor Wembanyama
Bam Adebayo
All-defensive second team:
Derrick White
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Jarrett Allen
Jalen Suggs
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
Appreciate this. Him not having Luka as MVP is enough to flush the whole list
He never said jokic on first team all nba. Hes only named 4 guys for his first team.
Thanks, now I can skip the video
@@adamstewart247Luka isn’t the best player OR the MVP.
It’s almost unanimous that Jokic is MVP, but sad Luka fans just can’t understand it lol.
JJ being more diplomatic than usual this episode because he knows NBA players are tuning in 🍿
And their fanboys 😂
He's presenting more professionally because of the content. JJ doesn't give a squat if players get their panties in a bunch.
Understand it but makes him look pretty weak.
There is definitely a DEI mindset in the League! I mean we have 5'6 140 pound women running around officiating in the paths of 7+ 260 pound athletes 😂
@@johnrath5049 No, it doesn't make him look weak. The only way you can look weak while picking All-NBA awards is if you just start crying and refuse to do do it.
This podcast felt like I was at my high school awards banquet
damn JJ, having JJ Redick as MVP of the season really is a bold move, but I respect it!
not having AD on the all defensive team is insane
Or Kd they stepped up
JJ either blacked out and forgot about ADs existance or JJ has agenda against AD. I would say eye test AD is best deffender in the world so if AD lacks stats AD at the WORST should be on 2nd DEF team.
He absolutely just blanked and forgot, that’s the only explanation lmfao
For the first time in his career, AD was not an elite 1-on-1 defender this year. He was a shot blocking machine as a help defender, but on the ball, mid-level guys were torching him. The coaches even took him off of top guys (guys he would have defended in the past) in-game so he could roam for shot blocking opportunities instead of getting beat. That's not fiction. Watch the games.
@@viliusvaisvila4510it’s simple. If he acknowledges how great Davis has been, he can’t say “lebron doesn’t have enough help”. Because everyone with 2 functioning eyes and a brain knows Davis should be at minimum 1st team all defense, 2nd team all nba, 2nd in DPOY. Imo he should win DPOY and should be the 5th guy on all nba 1st team.
To not have AD as a top 10 defender this season is insanity. I mean wow
BRO I THOUGHT I WAS MISSING SOMETHING
He's on Lebron's payroll, like most of the media. Downplaying AD's impact will only boost Lebron's perceived impact
Insanity
AD sucks
Only thing I can think of is that Lakers have only one playoff team below them in points allowed per game.
Great list, great justification, Awesome Show JJ. Also, you were great on the commentary for the 76ers vs Heat play in game!
Monk actually embodies the role as a true 6 man. No starts all year and he lead the league in bench points and assists
JJ didn't watch any kings game for sure. Kings won plenty of games because of Monk. I couldn't say the same about Reid.
So Naz should be disqualified by a Towns injury.
One thing I love about JJ and his pods in general is how educational they are for people who might not know basketball well yet.
A note for the editor of the videos. It might be cool to include pictures of the people being mentioned during conversation. At least upon first mention. I would love that at least. As a fan new to basketball.
Good suggestion brotha man 💯
id want a running list on the side of whose hes picking.
Scoot Henderson as Rookie of the year is a wild pick but I agree JJ
LeBron James for ROTY is wild but I respect it
Michael jordan not mvp is crazy
@@jowasijo 😂
@@bryantmyers9017 😂
Caitlin Clark for ROTY is wild but I respect it
Wemby is lowkey being blackballed from DPOY this season just because we all know his ceiling is higher. Similar to how people downplay Wilt Chamberlain's stats because of the era in which they occurred, Wemby is being given the "he's just a rookie" treatment.
yea im pissed. its definitely rigged.
Or maybe Gobert is just better? Wemby is great and deserving of top 3 DPOY, probably even the runner up but Gobert overall is more impactful on defense. Not only is he a great rim protector like Wemby but he also is better on-ball against other elite centers and he commands the defense in a way Wemby isn't capable of yet. Just like there are guys that have the intangibles to run an offense, there are guys who have the intangibles to run a defense and Gobert is one of the best ever at it.
Check the drtg on/off splits for the other Minnesota starters, literally all of them are negative. One of the biggest reasons for the small dropoff is that they have great defenders on the 2nd unit. Without Rudy that starting unit would be subpar defensively. I believe the Spurs went from 30th to 22nd of defense this year. TWolves went from 28th to 10th and now to 1st with Gobert. Consider this: the last time a player from a team with a defensive rating outside the top 5 won the Defensive Player of the Year award was 17 years ago. The lowest-ranked defense for a DPOY winner ever was 16th. Currently, the Spurs rank 22nd in defensive rating. It begs the question whether it's fitting to award DPOY to a player leading a team with a defense in the bottom third. It's akin to suggesting MVP honors for players whose teams miss the playoffs. Also I'd argue that as much as the teams defense being bad isn't Wembys fault that also makes Wembys' on/off differentials inflated due to the shortcomings of the bench, notably the absence of a reliable backup center.
Wemby would be a historically awful DPOY. His team would have the worst defense ever for a DPOY winner, the least amount of wins for a DPOY winner. He definitely has more gravity than Rudy, a better perimeter defender too. However the point of the game is to win, and Wemby’s team is awful. Just cause the award says “Defensive Player” doesn’t mean it’s just about the player, it’s never been about one thing but how that one thing affects the team as a whole.
So it's a team award. Gay!
@@drago2689 Gobert also plays on a team with good defenders like Jaden McDaniels Anthony Edwards and so on literally all Wembys teamates suck on D.
Both respect and appreciate you putting this out there and giving thoughts and context behind it all.
Suggesting SGA is a better defender than AD is pure insanity
SGA is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league while the Lakers defense is literally better when Davis is on the bench. It's not a crazy take.
He's on Lebron's payroll, like most of the media. Downplaying AD's impact will only boost Lebron's perceived impact
@@jaceygaither2581shai isn’t been the best perimeter defender or defender on his team lol
@@jaceygaither2581 Where did you get your weed from cause it definitely seems to hit well. 🤣🤣
@@mathewdavis2427copy paste cuz you hate Lebron 😂😂😂😂😂
You had a whole All Defense discussion and didn’t mention Anthony Davis once? What NBA have you been watching?
there is too many great candidates just as AD is
I was thinking the same thing
He's on Lebron's payroll, like most of the media. Downplaying AD's impact will only boost Lebron's perceived impact
@@mathewdavis2427stfu lmao he clearly just forgot.
@@mathewdavis2427noone on bron’s payroll would downplay AD you clown
Motivated playoff Luka incoming…
Def player of the year had to be Wemby. As you said Minnesota has a whole defensive unit around the best defender of this generation.. but Wemby literally changes SA from day to night when he’s on the court. Stats-wise he almost doubled Rudy in blocks, steals and deflections while having 5 minutes less usage x game. I bet you already know he’s gonna win that every single season until he’s physically capable to play
I understand the Gobert DPOY decision, but Wemby is my winner.
4th defensively with him on the floor, 28th(?? - not sure where it ended for the season) without him.
Not picking wemby is literally insane, you just explained it perfectly
At this point it just looks like gate keeping from these voters
I swear none of yall watch any games.
Wemby is dpoy
For real, JJ even acknowledged the team's defense isn't that much worse defensively. Where is the logic behind that pick then, if Wemby is literally beating him in every stat and elevates his team to a top 5 defense.
It’s called defensive player of the year not defensive team of the year. Crazy that this is even an argument considering wemby would have beat out gobert in any of his 3 DPOY seasons
No Anthony Davis for All-defensive team is WILD
He's on Lebron's payroll, like most of the media. Downplaying AD's impact will only boost Lebron's perceived impact
@@mathewdavis2427ur a retard
@@mathewdavis2427 you also think covid was a hoax
@@mathewdavis2427 🤡
@@mathewdavis2427that’s a reach
Kyrie not being the clutch player would be crazy he leads the league in 4th quarter points and has got multiple game winners including a left handed runner from damn near the 3
Kyrie did not lead the NBA in 4th quarter PPG or total 4th quarter points. What's your source? It's not accurate. 4th quarter PPG was led by Lebron James (8.3) and total 4th quarter points was led by DeRozan (550).
Kyrie was 10th in the league for 4th quarter PPG (7.6) and 21st in total 4th quarter points. Behind Luca in both statistics so not even scoring the most clutch time points on his own team let alone the whole league. Bro is second option in the clutch
He is not eligible. He played only 58 games
does he just play his rotation more in the 4th? Clutch is not the whole 4th.
Clutch is the final 5mins of the 4Q sir
Not eligble i think
Tatum and Brunson above Giannis is actually insane
So Vic has the effect of a top 5 defense on the floor and worst when off but Rudy is over Wemby because his team is already loaded with defenders? Make this make sense.
This is my whole argument against Gobert...
@@matthewmccain1333 Ikr, it's defensive player of the year, not defensive team of the year like wtf
Ya that confused me too. He literally says "when Wemby's off the floor, they r the worst defending team.. when he's on they r a top 5. When Gobert is on they r a great defensive team, when he's off they r still a great defensive team." But then still goes and picks Gobert... lol wut?
@@NaruBrilu bro exactly lol
@@NaruBrilujj is scared af to go out on limb
No AD on all defense team is a huge oversight. Did you forget him?
Absolutely. And I have been one of his biggest critics since he went to LA.
AD the guy that lets every center international player get whatever they want ? Sabonis Jokic Giannis embid Sengun etc that same guy who can’t beat any of these guys ? (Barely beat bucks) Is that the same guy that refuses to guard Jokic because they think it’s better for him to just “help”on the weak side letting Joker get whatever he wants ? That guy? I’m glad he’s left out and this is coming from a Lakers fan since ‘00 I’m sick of that dude
This is a very unserious p cast & im not even a laker fan
@@Elcaballote5are you retarded or something????
21:30
Not Anthony Davis in all defense is absolutely crazy
JJ needs an editor to add pop-ups while he’s talking. Make it easier to follow along.
Not trying to be a homer, but not even mentioning AD for defensive team or DPOY is insane and an extreme oversight
AD is playing probably his worst year defensively.
@@penkima4923proof you scrub?
@@penkima4923you don’t watch Laker games and it shows
@@nicholasjohnson8428Enough with that playin team
@@gh-co1uk play-in team that would beat everyone in the west in the playoffs except Denver and possibly Minnesota lol
No AD in the defensive team?
He's on Lebron's payroll, like most of the media. Downplaying AD's impact will only boost Lebron's perceived impact
@@mathewdavis2427You lebron haters are something else
@@mathewdavis2427it’s not that deep little buddy
@@mathewdavis2427 guy copied and pasted this comment a dozen times 😂 LeBron lives in your head free no payroll
No Aaron Gordon?
In the MIP discussion Deni Avdija (Wizards ) should be mentioned as an honorable mention. Look into it.
Finally someone who values Sabonis appropriately. The disrespect for him this season has been insane. There are even a few buffoon TH-camrs who didn't put him in their Top 20, despite leading the league in rebounding and double-doubles, and almost averaging a triple-double for the season. On 58% shooting btw. But his teammate, who has worse stats than Sabonis across the board except for points because he takes a lot more shots, is on ALL the Top 20 teams. I bet I know why..
Wemby is DPOY. The argument that their defensive rating skyrockets to the top when he’s in and plummets when he’s not compared to Rudy’s and the Minnesota is the only argument. Then you got the stats to back it up.
They sucked bro winning matters
@@lukelabenskiif Rudy played for the spurs they wouldnt even have 12 wins 😭😭
@@lukelabenski It shouldn't matter when it comes to these awards. The media created this winning must factor into all these player specific awards and fans fell for it big time. JJ just said MVP is 60% team performance. How tf does that make sense? A great player controls himself and can set teammates up with great passing but if they miss that effects team performance and that isn't the great players fault.
If Luka throws a great pass to PJ Wash and PJ misses the shot is that Luka's fault? If Jokic is setting his teammates up all night with great passing and they keep missing and lose the game is that Jokic's fault? As far as DPOY it's not a team defense award. It's for the best defensive PLAYER.
Going back to MVP, the voting has become so convoluted and it's because of the media. They put the team success in there and for yrs now they've created narratives too. Like "So and so deserves a MVP." Wtf is that? No one deserves the MVP. They earn the MVP through their play. But fans have become more casual and dumber so they go right along with this crap and many of em even repeat it like you did. In this vid JJ even said team success factors into the 1st team all NBA. That's insane. JJ said "How I view MVP and 1st team all NBA is a little different." No. There should be a criteria and this is where the media has severely screwed this all up. There are media members out there who rarely watch an entire NBA game voting on these awards. Make that make sense.
Bro thought we were gona read all that 😭^
@@AlexMeco13I did, he made some valid points.
Surprised Kyrie didn't make it into final group of Clutch player of the year. By far the best record between the finalists (having another elite clutch player in Luka helps, but Kyrie carried the majority of the load and they were 4-6 without him), has efficiency, volume and plenty of wow moments
I was thinking the same thing
hes on the mavs. no one wants to give award to mavs players
I believe he didn't play enough games
@@michaelwhite6056 yeah that’s the problem he didn’t play enough games. Even last year he played 60 games when there was no game restriction. He was in the top two for clutch and he didn’t win it that year either even though he was massive clutch player last year the fourth quarter. The funny thing about this year is Dallas is number one clutch team in the league kind of makes you laugh. But to their point not to even mention Kyrie‘s name because I think even his overall numbers during clutch are ridiculous as far as shooting percentage, three-point percentage, and free throws is crazy.
To be fair, the last 2 games they lost by sitting kyrie and luka making them 4-8 without Luka and 4-6 without Kyrie.
I do not agree with a lot of these picks.. but my main question is, Why do stars not get much love on ALL Defensive Teams???? They have high offensive usage and still play great defense.. I see SGA but no one else. Does not make sense to me. Nobody is taking Caurso or Herb Jones on defense over guys like KD, ANT, AD, etc.
Great picks!
As a Denver fan I gotta say having Giannis at 6 for MVP voting is borderline disrespectful. Tatum and Brunson haven’t been CLOSE to as good as he has for his team
In the case of Tatum, his team is 15 games ahead of Milwaukee. If the gap was 4-5 games I understand the argument.
Brunson just lead a G league team to overtake Giannis in 2nd place, so I would say yes Brunson > Giannis
Chill Brunson has been amazing this year. I agree with the Tatum part. Giannis has been better than Brunson but to say it hasn’t been close is wrong
@@edvverdthat’s not true 😂 but their 5th best player might be
@@alexandermunoz7783a g league team. Didn’t know anunoby, Donte, hart, and hartenstein were scrubs. 3 great defenders and Donte shooting lights out and avg 20 since Julius been out. Real g league team
I don’t understand how you say Rudy is DPOY when his team would be similar defensively without him on the floor… but on the other hand you say the Spurs are one of the best defensive teams with Wemby on the floor and the worst without him.
I was also very confused when he said that?? Bro just contradicted himself
JJ is too involved in Media now to tell the truth all the way xD He would love to say Wemby but he's in the realm of people who have to work with the narratives now sadly
It's because the Timberwolves are an amazing defensive team all around. If Wemby was on the Twolves the on/off defensive difference would be similar.
Then he didn’t put AD in all-defensive, and starts justifying his choice for AD instead of Wemby on 3rd team all-nba because of his defense. Kind of confusing.
He was saying that despite that fact, he still wants to credit Gobert for the best defense
Remembering that time in 1995 when Mutombo won Defensive Player of the Year but was not All-NBA Defensive First Team Center (David Robinson was).
AD definitely the defensive player of the year.
No Anthony Davis 😭😭😭😭
Your words made it sound like Wemby is the greatest defender ever but you gave your vote to Gobert. Not mad at the vote but at the explanation, Wemby by your words sounds a lot more impressive
He is from an individual standpoint the spurs are a top 5 defense when he's on the court and bottom 5 when he's off. The wolves barely get worse cus they have an entire team full of good to great defenders besides KAT none of them are weak and even he's been better than usual on that side of the ball. The dpoy has always been real weird, sometimes it's stat based others a combination of that plus being good overall as a team
everyone scared to give DPOY to a rookie. between that and no mention of AD in the top-10 one has to wonder if JJ understands defense at all
Too many people use the "best defender on a top team" bullshit. Wemby is clearly the more impactful defensive player.
@@lightsout4u1Agreed. Wemby is most impactful player on defense this year. He’s historically impactful, so it’s goofy for him not to get the award just because he’s a rookie and the rest of his team is atrocious defensively.
I think you are not really getting how JJ does his picks. He hedges on the people that didn't get his selection by acknowledging how great they are...
I was not expecting you to chose AD as MVP, whoa
What do you think about blake griffin retiring? Some ppl talking about his number retiring at clippers
Choosing Derick White for Coach of the Year? Lebron as Most Improved Player? And Trae Young as Defensive Player of the Year? These are some wild picks, JJ
😂
Equivalent to a top 5 defense when Wemby is on the court and bottom of barrel when he is off the court.
Rudy Gobert is the anchor of the best defense. Rudy Gobert off the court they are still a great defense.
But DPOY goes to Rudy Gobert?
The insane defensive impact Wemby has and only averaging 29.7min a game and literally leads league in Blocks and Stocks , The way he can guard two spots at once On SNRs is completely insane.
If Wembanyama doesn't win DPOY, Let's just rename it DTOY
Agree with everything you stated and Wemby should 1000% be DPOY. But I think JJ is hiding behind the NBA politics not the team aspect. If Wemby wins it this year as a rookie he'll probably win it, or be at least the heavy favorite, every year throughout the next decade. So give it to Gobert this year.
@@Emicks11 spurs sucked, not relevant
@@xavierb9061it’s not about team success. Wemby the best defender in the league his rookie year. He gonna be winning it almost every year till he’s 35 barring injury, and they gonna be a lot better next year if they get the right piece in the draft
@@Emicks11he had 70 & 54 dropped on him. Rudy didn’t.
@@sizwe_techflows_bloseZach Collins got those buckets 😂
As a completely new NBA fan what does 6th man award mean?
Should've been SGA or Luka for mvp. Now there will be strong mvp narratives for sga or luka next year. One of them will win no matter what. Just like harden and embiid
The most outrageous thing is AD not being in the discussion for DPOY and All Defense
name one thing he's better at defensively than either Rudy or Wemby
@@paratame105 Check stats, he's better than Rudy at everything
@@paratame105 Defending non-7 footers, his defense actually carries over into the post-season, just look up the stats bro, people like you only see blocks and think they are great at defense, Rudy is a liability when he constantly gets swtiched onto by guards, gets exploited in the playoffs
@@SkuxLK can you point out specific stats to me that would indicate that? I'd be interested in looking them up. I can assure you, my opinion on Wemby's defense has nothing to do with blocks whatsoever (maybe as a tie breaker, especially when looking at stocks) Oh and BTW, it should go without saying, but AD is obviously a defensive BEAST
he was on all defense.
I understand the Rudy pick but Wemby is my pick for dpoy he literally is the spurs defense oppose to Rudy having alot of help around him
Spurs sucked..cant win
@@xavierb9061top 2 defense with Wemby on and bottom 5 with Wemby off. Hes the dpoy easy
1 man army
Wemby also beats him in every defensive stat.
Nah Wemby’s presence is without a doubt the best, but his 1v1 defense against his fellow centers is PITIFUL.
Any 7’ 220+ center can score on Wemby 9/10. That’s is NOT good enough just because the 1 miss was a highlight block.
I find these selections just and fair!
Really thought I’d hear kyries name mentioned once for all nba or clutch player.
You should add a category for best and worst referees 😂
😂😂😂
damn wemby is really about to get robbed of dpoy
jalen brunson most improved player? or is he to good all nba 2nd team?
JJ im just curious as to how you are eligible to be a voter in NBA awards?
I’m a celtics fan and I believe Jalen Brunson should be ahead of Tatum the way he’s carrying that Knicks franchise on his back
lol no
yea.... thats a terrible take. How is he even ahead of giannis, go ahead and explain to me
@@Lebronscome bucks stink lol
@@Dachoseone2546Tatum is a system player. Brunson is the system
@@markhanna3643tatum is NOT a system player. someone doesn't watch basketball.
The disrespect to Anthony Davis for DPOY is insane not gonna lie. Not even a selection or consideration??
Their defensive rating is 17th and they’re a play in team. What’re you talking about?
they wern't good enough as a team imo
def should be on the defensive team of the year tho
He's on Lebron's payroll, like most of the media. Downplaying AD's impact will only boost Lebron's perceived impact
@@mathewdavis2427 lebron is worthy of 1st team consideration and for sure could be argued for 2nd team but JJ put him on third team. He's not THAT biased like most mainstream analysts
Would be pretty cool for J.J. to have all the voters on to break down their final decisions.
Nba voters should inform fans if a black player or white european player is going to win mvp next year. So we won't have high hopes for really good player that season
The NBA should out an official definition for every award.
DPOY for example. Does team defense affect the award? Or is it an individual award? The people voting have no clue. That is a huge issue that should be solved asap.
They lack logic. We have stats that show on and off the court Defensive rating.
How would that work exactly? People really need to think about this and not just say stuff. Let's say for MVP the say stats are 55% team success 45%. Percentage of what exactly? And who would agree on those percentages? That would make people whine even more. Or why just those two variables, why not more? Well, which ones? Which stats are we counting? What about supporting cast, both quality and them missing time? We have BBallreference that spits out a percentage for each top candidate, but it's a dumb thing to do. Literally impossible to exactly define, so I'm flabbergasted why is it a problem to have many individuals have their own weighted system for all of this and place their votes based on that. It's not perfect, it literally can not be by the sheer amount of variables. The solution is more voters to try to even out the biases, not the artificial "definition"
The discussion of these awards are the most valuable part for the NBA. They want the uncertainty.
@@milangolubovic2280 "How would that work exactly?" I started to write response but then I saw your whining in the rest of your comment.. and nah, not doing it. Have a nice day buddy. Everything will be fine.
@@buttnuts2599 For a discussion you need some sort of set rules. If you dont have them, its two people screaming at each other with no substance.
No Anthony Davis for either DEF POY or DEF team? Wooooooww
DEF team is fair but he's not in the conversation for DPOY. You can make the argument for 3 I guess but he's miles behind Wemby and Gobert
@@kanevidalin4978 that’s fair!!! Im just surprised that he’s not on the DEF Team 1 or 2
@@julianiford3792 Yeah it's tough, totally could be but they had a bottom half defence. Just depends how much you want to put on the team factor. Lakers would hav been in the top half of the lottery without his defence though
@@kanevidalin4978he’s easily the best defender in the nba it’s his team success that holds him back
He's on Lebron's payroll, like most of the media. Downplaying AD's impact will only boost Lebron's perceived impact
How is your top 5 mvp not your all nba first team? How is Brunson second team but top 5 mvp voting
How can he vote?
Tatum over Giannis is criminal.
Yeah if you don’t know ball
@@patrickscanlon4308ironic
Agreed, Tatum is overrated
I mean the best player on the best team is always in consideration and Giannis took a lot of Ls especially down the stretch
Tatum led a team to 64 wins and the undisputed best player. He's a no brainer for All-NBA first team. Argue Brunson vs Giannis if anything
Jared Allen over AD for all-defense 😂😂😂
Allen is deserving, shouldve taken out SGA and put in AD
@@Chaos338 AD didn't play good defense this year.
No Trayce Jackson Davis on All-Rookie is wild. Taking him over Lively every time.
Lively was better this year
Where's AD on the defensive team?
Defensive PLAYER Of the Year (DPOY). Not "Best defensive player on the best defensive team" award. It's not Wemby's fault the rest of his team can't play defense.
The Wolves were the laziest team in the NBA before Gobert got there. Now they are #1 in defense.
And Spurs are the worst defensive team without Wemby and a top 5 defense with
I hear in baseball the talk about the eye test. Wemby was magical defensively and the best defender we’ve seen in decades. Get rid of the award or change it to Defensive Team of the year.
exactly
@@nath7soccer not leading in blocks, steals, or deflections. Gobert has a slight lead in defensive rebounds. What other non team metric are you referencing that applies to the defensive end. Wemby’s defensive year solely based off individual stats is historic, one that less than 5 players can say have done. Take wemby off the floor the spurs are last with him on, they are top 5.
Wow no ad on all defense is criminal
He's on Lebron's payroll, like most of the media. Downplaying AD's impact will only boost Lebron's perceived impact
@@mathewdavis2427 you funny asf dude. seen you 7 times now just on this video 🤣🤣🤣
@@SkidiPatPathe reaaaaaaally hates Lebron 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@mathewdavis2427 i've never seen such hate on youtube before, you're lunatic buddy get better lmao
Giannis outside the top five for MVP voting is wild (no hate, I just disagree)
Also awesome to see that Sabonis getting some respect. After he was snubbed for an All-Star spot, I felt the disrespect was crazy.
Huge W to put Sabonis in 2nd team Alll-NBA, some votes were leaving him out altogether which is just unfair for the dominant season he’s had
Around all-star break Sabonis was 6th or 7th in MVP mockRating, and yet didnt get selected as an west allstar this year. Freaking NBA :D
@@davismarkovskis1349 exactly! The only real knock is that he missed the playoffs, but so did Steph and most people have him on their All-NBA
Giannis has the most efficient 30 ppg season of all time while still being a top defender in the league and not top 5 on your MVP ballot. I hate to say it but I can’t see how this is anything but large market bias for Tatum and Brunson
the bucks largely underperformed this season; he put up the numbers and his team didnt perform that well, 3rd seed in the east, equivalent to 7th in the west
@@andersonbucker1856I'm not entirely sure he's not responsible for some of the team's dysfunction, too. Big numbers, big whoop.
Doc Rivers bias.
@@andersonbucker1856 the team underperformed. Giannis didn’t
Im sure Giannis wont be losing sleep he ends up say #6 as oppose to #5 or #4.
Jokić MVP
Luka is the only one statistically that can compare to Jokic this year
10th in ppg (5th in total)
4th in RPG (3rd in total)
3rd APG (2nd in total)
2nd field goals made
8th in steals
58.3 field goal %
65% true shooting
9th in minutes played
1st in PER
1st in win shares
1st box plus/minus
1st in VORP
1st in PIE
1st in Raptor
2nd in triple doubles
On floor +11.6
Off floor -8.4
On/off = +20.0
Advanced Stats are REAL
@@SamuelBlackMetalRider That happens if your backup is not even at G-League level. Or if you play your starters by far the most of any team in the league, by a mile!. 4 Denver starters are in the Top10 of plus minus (Murray only top20 because of injuries), Denver plays all Bench lineups, of course the starters look way better in advanced stats. Not to mention that specially defensive advanced metrics (DBPM, def WS) highly favor Big man. Or why do you think only 3 guards are in the Top20 of both stats? The Denver starters played over 900 minutes together this season in 46 games.
Wow best comment right here! Denver trying to rig the advanced stats so Jokic can win mvp
So Jokic won MVP because the Nuggets won 7 more games than the Mavs?
Nice
Bc Luka clearly had a better season, average 34, 10, 9 compared to Jokic 26, 9, 12
“Oh but Jokic had better advanced stats” well pretty easy to do when Nuggets have no back up center. And play Jokic with one of the best starting lineups in the NBA, then bring in a terrible bench lineup who Jokic never plays with.
Mavs had way more injuries including Kyrie missed 24 games, starting center Lively missed 27, Maxi Kleber missed 39 games,
Josh Green missed 25 games,
Dante Exum missed 27 games
Also Gafford and Washington got their after the deadline to only play 29 games each on the Mavs
Y’all can twist tf out of the advanced stats all you want, they prove Jokic is more efficient & more valuable. As in MOST VALUABLE PLAYER.
I honestly don’t mind most of your takes and picks besides not having ad in all defensive team is insane 😮
Efficency is great, but I will take the guy dropping 34 vs 26. Joker might be better, but to me better season was Luka. It's close but hard not to give mvp to top scorer and 3rd best passer.
Wemby not being your #1 pick for Defensive player of the year is crazy
You even said it yourself that Rudy has help and their team doesn't suffer much without him on the floor.
Wemby literally makes the defense great and their defense is terrible when he isn't playing.
What is this logic? Make it make sense
Wemby on awful team, Rudy was the lynchpin on the best defensive team and 4th best record in NBA. Rudy had incredible stats, but was also actually on the court more than Wemby was. On/Off stats for wemby are impressive, but he was minutes restricted, meaning his impact was also smaller overall than it could have been for his team.
Wemby had multiple season-highs for individual players dropped on him. He did some great defending, but also some awful defending.
@@Phriedah Its literally an individual award, your team doesn't mean anything.
@@penkima4923 This isn't true when the numbers are broken down for when Wemby was actually on the floor. For instance, the bulk of Embiid's 70 points were scored against the Zach Collins line up. Most of these games were when Wemby was on a minutes restriction, so that's how it worked it.
Not hating but I don’t see how Luka isn’t the favorite. Jokic is amazing but Luka just did so much more for his team and carried them to the 5th seed when people thought the mavs wouldn’t even make the play in
Facts but Jokic will win bc his plus/minus looks good bc Denver has no back up center and only allows Jokic to play with the starting lineup then puts in a entire bench lineup into the game
If Luka did "so much more" for his team then he wouldn't have less rebounds than Jokić.
It's close... Jokić does just as much with less usage the ball and Shai has put just as much great work in to get OKC top.
@@silewis9396Bro are you stupid ? Luka is a PG, hopefully he has less rebound than a center. And by the way, Luka is by far the best guard in rebounds
So Jokic won MVP because the Nuggets won 7 more games than the Mavs?
Nice
Bc Luka clearly had a better season, average 34, 10, 9 compared to Jokic 26, 9, 12
“Oh but Jokic had better advanced stats” well pretty easy to do when Nuggets have no back up center. And play Jokic with one of the best starting lineups in the NBA, then bring in a terrible bench lineup who Jokic never plays with.
Mavs had way more injuries including Kyrie missed 24 games, starting center Lively missed 27, Maxi Kleber missed 39 games,
Josh Green missed 25 games,
Dante Exum missed 27 games
Also Gafford and Washington got their after the deadline to only play 29 games each on the Mavs
Luka had Kyrie. Jamal has been injured a lot
No ad in any spot in defensive team is crazy
Insanly tough year fo awards this year. Appreciate the hell outta jj for walking us through the thought process
Not very tough decisions to make at all.
Positionaless for All-Defense, but SGA over Anthony Davis??
Giannis being left off all defence is crazy, shows where the defence is these days
I don't think giannis should win MVP, but boy, he's getting underrated this season.
Colby White is most improved…His numbers clearly shows it
easily the most improved
maybe NBA should ban contract clauses based on voting?
Jalen Brunson, not being mentioned as most improved, shows how people just can't think outside the narrative box.
Was a good player last year, top 30. This year arguably top 5.
Going from 30 to 5 a lot harder than top 200 to 50 I feel
Scoot Henderson is leading rookies in assists and is third in rookie scoring. He deserves to be on the second all-rookie team
JJ just said that AD is a top 10 defender while mentioning him in Alll NBA 3rd Team but he did not considered him in his All Defensive Teams.
I think instead of Jarret Allen, Anthony Davis should be in All Defensive 2nd Team.