I highly suggest How To Adhd and Tottally ADD youtube channels. Watching them was a continues "oh... that explain it..." and learning to accept that adhd affect me much more than i realised
Can confirm, I have ADHD and my sleep schedule can get real wild. If left to my own devices I will push my bedtime further and further back, a couple hours at a time, until I’m only awake when it’s dark out, then push it _further_ until I’ve come full circle to a normal sleep schedule. It’s tough when you’re trying to fall asleep but at 4:00 AM your eyes snap open when you realize you have a question that desperately needs to be answered by Google.
Very glad not to hear the usual "oh, you've just got to avoid screen time after 8pm and magically you'll go to bed earlier" Like noooo, I've lived with this brain my whole life and I can tell you, I could sit in a dark room *all day long* but that time between midnight and 2am, I'll be *wide* awake.
Every doctor i saw about it over like 10 years of my trying to get help told me the same thing and a lot of them were actually really aggressive about it. Then the sleep specialist diagnosed me with DSPD and it was like @&#$ YOU DOCTORS 🖕🏻
I told my mom for years that I felt better when I went to sleep at 12-2am and woke up around 10am. She never believed me until recently when she started looking into ADHD and realized that her whole immediate family likely has it, including her.
That is EXACTLY the range I default to when I am not required to keep a “more normal” schedule. Yes, I have ADHD, diagnosed about 12 years ago when I was just shy of age 49. It does not surprise me that this is yet another symptom related to ADHD.
Same!!! Those couple hours of silence and solitude after everyone has gone to bed… glorious. Whenever someone makes a comment or “joke” about my sleeping in I just think “laugh all you want, I wouldn’t trade that alone time for anything.” *sigh*… normies.
im autistic and potentially also have adhd bc yeeee. meh circadian rhythms s l i g h t l y fucked up and by dat mean im a night owl lol. sleep at 1 wake up at 10. always been like dat. also whenever i miss a sleep cycle after abt 12-1 am my brains just adds 1 on lol.
@@ma.2089 the thing is I'm hella tired and I'm sure I could sleep immediately if I go to bed, but I'm sitting here, doing anything but not going to sleep
Time blindness is one of my biggest problems with sleeping on time personally, and the only way I manage to get to bed roughly on time is by auto-locking myself out of all my devices at a certain time. I also feel more awake at night than during the day for some reason.
You can auto lock yourself out of your devices?? This is something I need to figure out how to do. I have severe time blindness, an iPad, a nice phone and my brain “wakes up” the most at night. Falling asleep isn’t necessarily the issue. The issue is allowing myself to fall asleep.
Hardcore nightowl, yep. Aka -- Delayed Sleep Syndrome. Possibly aggravated by Seasonal Effective Disorder (which can be either winter- OR summer-blues depression).
I used to daydream that I had a remote control that could pause time. I could sleep for a bunch of hours while time paused around me. I could also fast forward boring or unpleasant things and rewind and watch memories back (but not change them! Even my daydreams had rules at 10 years old. lol) I just realised that movie Click with Adam Sandler basically stole my daydream 30 years after I first had it. 😛
Mine close to 2 hours too. After high school instead of forcing myself to sleep I slept whenever I feel like it. My sleep schedule cycles day and night in about a week period. Every day by sleeping by an hour and 45 minutes later than I did the previous day.
I'm watching 3 years later at 3:30 am. Was diagnosed with ADHA this year at age 56. There is so much to learn. As I do learn about it, I'm shocked no physician diagnosed me sooner. Only diagnosed after my youngest was diagnosed, and I started researching ways to help them. This led to my talking with my doctor and asking if I could have it also. So many aha moments since.
Well it’s not really a physician’s field, I don’t know your symptoms but most of them are stuff you can only really fully diagnose if you’re actually looking for it specifically, which is usually a psychiatrist thing.
Yeah, I got diagnosed after going through the second and more definitive diagnosis of my own daughter. I think it’s pretty common, especially for women.
I had a lady call me a drug addict for taking my ADHD meds at work. I'm sure she doesn't drink, smoke or take any painkillers or antibiotics ever when she needs them tss
I'm just happy for the acknowledgement of ADHD. I get tired of the whole, "just focus more" nonsense from people. And yeah, I suddenly try and do everything at once an hour or two before bed.
same! i'll do nothing all day and then before bed be like, well maybe i should go ahead and do that one thing. and, while i'm at it, maybe i'll tackle this, and that, and oh yeah i procrastinated on that too today, let me at least check it out and see if there's anything i can do real quick... and then it's 5:26am and i've just deep cleaned my car and organized my closet.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW VALIDATING THIS IS!!! i’ve struggled with falling asleep, staying asleep, and waking up for YEARS! i may even say my whole life, it just got worse the older i got
This also doesn’t include the added challenge of executive dysfunction and hyperfocus when it comes to actually getting ready for bed. If you are reading a book or watching a show it can be difficult to stop in order to go to bed on time no matter how tired you are actually getting.
Dude I read through an entire book in one day, from 9 am to 6 am I just read the book and got through like a 300-400 page book it was nuts, I just never felt tired
Yeah so when i was in HS still I got up at 0600 and watched a drama til 0600... Realized it was Saturday morning and had to see my little sister and brother. So stayed up til 2200... Because I was just so busy I couldn't sleep
I know this comment is from a while ago but THIS. “Quiet your mind”? Nah mate I’ve constantly got sound or music replaying in my head like the phantom of the bloody opera.
Regarding people who have a later sleep cycle; maybe there is no problem. Having people awake at more times of the night likely meant their ancestor tribe would live through the night. Maybe the real problem is forcing everyone to wake up at the same time.
It really is, before industrialisation you'd sleep when you needed to sleep, napping was also a regular thing. Farmers would ofc work at the crack of dawn but then they'd take midday siestas to avoid the midday sun, so did hunter gatherers. Also it was quite common for people to go to sleep, wake up at night, hang around and do some chores for a few hours, then go back to sleep. Human night vision is actually not that bad, and since we discovered fire there was always a dim light source available.
Absolutely this. There is some loose genealogical evidence to state that what we now call ADHD might be the genetic remnants of ancestors who lived a nomadic lifestyle, hence why it's so prevalent in humanity rather than having been selected for. Most of my 'problems' with ADHD are actually problems with how it interfaces with modern society.
I deal with the holy trinity: ADHD, depression, and anxiety. The struggle to sleep leads to me staying up for extended periods which causes the anxiety to kick in and then being up late with depression leads me to dark places. I wouldn't wish this cycle on anyone
I also have the three mind problems, they suck and I do agree that people shouldn't be given this, it's annoying and tiring. Hope people can get help for such problems, I have gotten some medication and it does somewhat help.
I had rough time growing up for the same reason. I got really into body building and boxing and started taking sleep medicine every night. Fixed it right up
Hank: "Hopefully this helps explain why you're watching this at 3 in the morning" Me: "I'm so glad I'm watching this at 3 in the afternoon, not too long after waking up and starting my day"
Sleep when you're tired and get up to do stuff when you're rested... That should be the goal. The inconformity between your schedule and everybody elses can be mitigated and ultimately may become a non issue if one works towards that end. End result: You are happy and productive. As somebody who rarely falls asleep at the same time every night or day I can assure you that embracing my night owl tendencies and shaping my world around them instead of fighting to fit into the "natural rythym" that I simply DO NOT FEEL.. works well for me. Stay safe ppl
I used to stare at the light on my radio to focus on something specific. It helped quiet my brain. Now I do guided meditations. It’s taken a lot of practice, but falling asleep once I actually decide to lay down has been much easier as of the last year or so.
Oh my god you put words to it 😧 I play a favorite tv show or a sleep podcast on my phone quietly so I have something to take my focus until I can fall asleep
@@MikeStonerUpUrs exactly what I need. Our thoughts will keep us awake so what helps is a interesting podcast to take your mind off the fact you can’t sleep right 😃😀
As a case study I closed all the blinds and just slept and woke whenever I felt like it during summer break for like 5 weeks when I was 16-17. Ended up sleeping as if the day/night cycle was 26/27 hours long. Funny how this backs my experience up so well. Oh, and yeah, I slept really well during that time, no issues.
I will always go to bed later and later every day, and always have to force myself to go to bed. And every single sound wakes me. (went to sleep at 6am today.) LOL
This would explain why I can’t sleep unless I’m so exhausted I don’t notice myself fall asleep. I’m not saying I have ADHD for sure, I haven’t gotten confirmation about if I do, but I have a lot of the symptoms, including some rare ones, and I have trouble sleeping, making it harder for me to wake up early in the morning for school. Usually because of this, we end up a little bit late.
honestly same, I don't know why but I have to spend about what feels like an hour trying to get to sleep to actually sleep. But even then I'm not even sure if that does anything because I don't exactly remember which point in time I would fall asleep at.
Same here. For years I legit had to just lay in the dark and stare at the ceiling for 2+ hours until I finally fell asleep. It’s why at this point I don’t bother trying to go to sleep before I start feeling like my brain is malfunctioning. Honestly it could just have to do with some other things I 100% have, but I dunno.
I was diagnosed with ADHD last year at the age of 62. Every time I discover another connection to my behavior I realize there's an explanation for what I always considered character flaws. Why didn't I discover this decades ago?
Because when we grew up in the 70s… Only boys had ADHD 😆 And of course what I mean by that is girls present differently. (I was that flaky girl, the chatty Cathy, the daydreamer, always late, etc. ) I was diagnosed two years ago at the age of 56!
Because decades ago they didn't realize it was an actual medical problem. At best, it was considered a personality quirk, but most doctors and medical professionals were happy to explain it away as actual character flaws. Something that we could fix if we just tried harder. Something we could change if we had the willpower. Anyway, I pop a 1.5 mg melatonin gummy around 10PM and it puts me to sleep by midnight, which lets me get the seven and a half hours of sleep I need to get up and clock into work-from-home at 8AM, around the same time I take my ADHD meds so I can actually try to focus on work. This pattern seems to be working well for me, but if I ever have to go back into the office, I suspect I'll need to shift everything up an hour.
@@ANNEMARGARET0319 No one ever suspected that I had ADHD because I managed to get good grades. My younger sister was born in 1971 and had the identical problems as my brother who was diagnosed but the doctors literally told my mom that girls don't have ADHD.
I feel like that and I'm only 36! It's crazy we can live with conditions like these for decades but no-one recognised our symptoms as being anything other than important..hopefully better awareness for these disorders moving forward into 2023/24 and onwards so people don't have to struggle and suffer in silence 🤫
I was having so much suicidal thoughts 10 years ago as a teenage, also suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder. I got diagnosed with ADHD, spent my whole life fighting ADHD. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment changed my life for better. I can proudly say i'm totally clean for 6 years and still counting. Always look to nature for solution to tough problems, Shrooms are phenomenal.
Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Germany. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them
YES sure of mycologist Pedroshrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, addiction. Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I'm so very happy for you mate, Psilocybin is absolutely amazing, the way it shows you things, the way it teaches you things. I can not believe our world and our people shows less interest about it's helpfulness to humanity. It's love. The mushrooms heals people by showing the truth, it would be so beneficial for so many people, especially politicians and the rich who have lost their way and every other persons out there.
I completely agree with the delayed circadian rhythm thing. When it gets dark and everyone else is getting sleepy it’s like I just start waking up &/or getting amped! I can feel it, like I’m getting psyched up for something!
Just take maletonin sublingual pills once. It's amazing. After around 20 minutes, you'd "feel" the night! You'd suddenly feel that it's too late to be awake and it's time to sleep. Wonderful!
I think there's an "environment" where this is "fixed" or perhaps at least put to healthy use and downsides mitigated. Buuut I don't know if it exists in society :( I don't know what we should do
What if the "night owls" are genetically predisposed to be the overnight protectors of the "early birds". It would make some sense in early human evolution.
While unemployed as an adult, I’m finding that sleep definitely drifts due to hyper focus. Daylight is not that important personally (especially for sleep-cycles during the summer); but if I stop doing an activity I’ve been hyper-focused on for hours, like for a bathroom break, the need to sleep comes from nowhere and hits me like a truck! Hyper focus seems to be a very powerful sleep suppressant very consistently with me.
For my entire life when it was near the time I would go to sleep and I had to do something I didn’t want to do such as homework or something mundane my body and mind would completely shut down
im scared to stop working even when i come home. just making and eating dinner is enough to go right to sleep, then sleeping schedule is fucked and work will be hell
I watch videos at 1.5x so I can concentrate, and I watch Minecraft Letsplays at 2x because it's "too slow", meanwhile other people would probably have to slow down any videos that I edit so they could understand them. Ah, the joys of ADHD.
I guess this would explain why it's like pulling teeth trying to sleep earlier than 2 am and I need to have the lights off a few hours before I go to sleep
I do that. Have lights out @ 10 fall sleep @ 2 and wake up @ 5 then fall back to sleep @8. And miss my 10 am appointment. If you ask why not just stay awake from 5...I try that but by 2pm I'm so sleepy that I have trouble focusing on driving. The warmth of the sun makes it worst. I'm thinking of getting a mini RV so that I can sleep on location to accommodate my sleep patterns and the world I'm living in. The plus about ADHD is that we can do multi thinking.
@@RmcBlueSky Omg you sound just like me. I also have to be in the pitch dark for like 4 hours, then dont fall asleap till like 4, even when im really trying hard to go to bed early for weeks at a time. I notice that I get the deepest sleep from about 6-9am... when most people are waking up. I cant even explain how difficult it is for me to wake up in the morning. Like a honestly feel incredibly drowsy until sunset. And I often miss 10 or 11am appointments as well. It's incredibly frustrating. Society wasnt made for people like us, and we get called lazy. But i think it's clear that there is something off with our circadian cycles, or perhaps there are other factors at play too. Wish I knew what they were.
I can go to bed at 10pm but no matter what I do I only fall asleep at 1am on an average night, midnight on a good night or 3am on a bad night. I have found that my body responds to certain vocal pitches by getting sleepy so now when I struggle to sleep I turn on TH-cam and watch time team. This works best when you have TH-cam premium so the ads don't interrupt things and wake you up again with the pitch change. To deal with the light and the odd drive to watch even though I'm using it to sleep, I use a sleep mask or just close the flap on the phone case. Doing this I can be asleep within an hour of going to bed.....usually......that is if I didn't do something stupid and have caffeine after 5pm.
Yup. Sleep was a terrible thing for me in my early childhood. My adhd got better as I grew up and now it's very tame. Problem is I still need to take precautions to ensure I get good sleep or else my entire day will be screwed up.
The part about kids being more hyperactive when they're tired opened my eyes so much! I used to stay up late on purpose before tests and classes throughout middle and high-school because I always found that my brain was so tired it was finally quiet enough for me to focus in class but God was I sleep deprived
Wow! That's really cool that you realizes that about how your brain works and you were able to tweak your behaviors to sortof manage your ADD! There's something almost kinda sad about it too though... I can empathize with the struggle and needing to take some drastic measures in order to trick your mind into managing at life. I used to have to do that for any type of project in school.... Had to wait until the night before and stay up all night and do the work all at once and get it finished just before I had to leave for school. The urgency of knowing it was due NOW, was the only way I could get my brain to do it. otherwise I could just not focus my attention on it.
@@kmdn1 I feel this. The last project I did before I finished university was a a big term project that I had been half-heartedly working on all term, and then it got down to the due date. It was due on Sunday at anytime (because the professor was kind). I started working at noon on Saturday, and worked through till 8:00 am on Sunday. But there were also very clever professors who knew how students like us work, and made a whole bunch of smaller deadlines throughout the term. They knew that if there wasn't immediate pressure, we would leave the projects to the last minute.
@@williwiebe i need my teachers to do that, i cant do anything without a deadline right in front of me. my grades are due tomrrow during school and i am very much getting my work done now
As a 30 year old woman with adhd let me tell you how right you are and that while I've figured out a lot on my own, you've answered many questions I've had about myself. Now, if you all excuse me, I'm off to get some melatonin.
i was diagnosed ADHD as an adult. One of my college ed class profs suggested I be tested because she saw some of the signs. Since I retired, I've been able to usually let my body decide my sleep pattern. I've discovered I run on a 32 hour 'day.' Sometimes I sleep at night, sometimes during the day, but I usually sleep 11-12 hours and then am up 20-22 hours before being ready to sleep again.
it's awesome that you're able to live in the way that's best for your body now after retiring :) i wish society would allow for us to do what our bodies need, before retiring..
oh my god I've literally never heard anyone else say this, but this is EXACTLY how I function! I told my mom about his last week and she told me I was crazy. But I swear my body is wired for like a 30 hour day! I wake up naturally around 11 and stay groggy or sleepy until about 5pm, when I finally become really awake. I have the most energy in the day between like 8pm-12am and then I am very awake naturally until about 6am. But I make myself go to sleep earlier than that obviously. I probably fall asleep between 3 and 4 every night. But if I could I would just push each day 3 or 4 hours further out. It is so nice to actually hear other people say they have this experience as well. Thank you guys so much for sharing. I'm going to look into this a little more.
@@nicolecorter3533 yess! when you try to explain it their like “oh that happens to me too” like no, this more than “happens” to me Bc it happens ALL the time, it’s a lifestyle I didn’t choose 🥲 and effects almost every aspect of my life. People just don’t get it
I am really glad they mentioned adult ADHD. Most people forget that many kids with ADHD continue to have it as adults, and so many studies are only done on children. So much more research needs to be done in adults!
Thank you! I was diagnosed at age 30, and it's made a world of difference. Symptoms seem to morph as we age, as well. A handful of older adults I've talked to take a small dose of stimulant before bed... it has helped their "everywhere" thoughts to chill out enough so sleep can settle in.
@@JoelRiggs I also got diagnosed as an adult, but when they explained everything to me, so much about my past, my upbringing, my time at school... Made perfect sense. It made me feel like not only I wasn't crazy, I wasn't alone in my feelings.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to give shrooms a try.
My girlfriend was recently diagnosed with adhd. She can be sound asleep and snoring but if I move or change the channel on the TV she becomes wide awake like she was never asleep to began with. It's really wild how it seems like she's never really fully asleep.
@@Ec-pb1tl me too! I wake up with the slight, indirect light that comes through my heavy but light-colored curtains when my across the way neighbors go to the bathroom, which does not face my window. Never could sleep with TV on though, not to mention channel surfing! I hope Michael's wearing headphones...
I have primary inattentive ADHD and delayed sleep. However I'm usually so exhausted by the time I finally manage to go to sleep (usually around 4am) that I will sleep into the afternoon if given the option. If I don't get sleep I'm useless and dragging. It's like I'm chronically fatigued but also have insomnia. I'd love to see a study on those of us that don't have the hyperactivity aspect and see if it lines up with theories. I am so glad to know I'm not alone in this though. I was diagnosed as an adult and it's amazing how much can be explained by it.
It sounds like you have a mostly biphasic sleep pattern. Historically, this was normal! You may also be having issues with the *quality* of your sleep, thus making you 'chronically fatigued'
Your story is mine too. Watching this video now at 6:30 am, I haven’t slept all night and I have a similar pattern(Covid has made it worse). No you are definitely not alone. I was diagnosed at 26, and my sleep problems were the catalyst to get professional help. Take special care of yourself.
@@hmmm_welll889 weeeeell unless your mother is a psychiatrist who specialises in adhd, I would ignore her. Make a list of the reasons you think you have adhd, and see a doctor. Pinterest (of all places) can be a good place to find resources. ADDitude is a good website too
@@hmmm_welll889 even if you don't have ADHD, there is no problem with you using those resources too if they help. If they help you that's all that matters. Additionally anxiety and ADHD usually go hand in hand!
You should *really* get your iron levels checked. I have ADHD and sleep issues, but I also used to be anemic and this sounds very similar to me before I got treatment for my anemia. You shouldn't be do exhausted you can barely function, that isn't normal. (Also sorry if I'm over reacting, my anemia was really bad so I tend to jump and kinda panic if I notice anything even remotely similar to what I went through lol.)
This makes so much sense. Ive struggled with ADHD for my whole life in some capacity, and the worse my ADHD gets the worse my sleep gets. For the last two years where it's been at its most extreme and debilitating, Im frustrated to find out that every single night, even the ones where I do feel tired at a regular time like 10 pm, it's impossible to sleep. The very second I close my eyes, my brain gets overwhelmed with anxiety for no reason and I just cant sleep, and anxiety of course wakes you up more, so 98% of the time I don't bother trying to sleep the normal way because this always happens. I just stay up playing video games until my body physically cant stay awake anymore, and then I'm finally able to fall asleep.
I go through the same thing at night but instead of anxiety its light my eyes force open it gets to the point where even after im tired i cant close my eyes and i just end up doing the same thing as you and do stuff untill i pass out
I'm 34 and still do the same thing, I have just given up on trying to decide when I'm gonna sleep, prolly not the best thing for me but sure beats laying in a bed awake for hours! Hey if I gotta be @work @6am that's easy, I just don't sleep...or I'm so tired from not sleeping the day before I can actually get some sleep!
Same here buddy :/ sometimes I'm so tired I'll just take little unexpected naps during the day. Literally just drifting off for minutes at a time over and over until I feel more awake. It doesn't help that I have sleep apnea but can't afford to see the doctor -_- and wake up multiple times during the night *sigh* who needs sleep right? T-T
This is actually super interesting. I've taken melatonin gummies for the last few years as I always had a hard time falling asleep, and they helped me feel more alert and awake the morning after. After being diagnosed with ADHD and seeing this video, it makes so much more sense why my symptoms are exacerbated on days I don't sleep well.
I've found that playing something with words in the background as I fall asleep helps my over active brain to latch on to whatever I'm listening to instead of running wild
Hah, I'm the opposite - I focus on the words and can't relax, because if I zone out I'll miss what they're saying 🤦 I do guided meditations though, where the first half is someone talking and the second half just the sound of waves that I can regulate my breathing to. Focusing on the waves hits the perfect spot of keeping me focused enough that my mind doesn't wanter too much, but not so focused that I can't fully relax.
@@FaerieDust I used to try guided meditation to quell my ADHD but then like 30 minutes there's always a midroll ad that plays and just destroys everything
@@Jellylamps My mom is the same - if she can't sleep she'll put on a TV show or something. I can't do it, I keep myself awake if there's any kind of narrative involved
I never was able to do this for 30 years of my life, and thought my ex was crazy for doing it (he loved falling asleep to Bob Ross videos), or my older brother or roommates who would only sleep with a tv show on (Scrubs for my brother). But for some reason, in the last couple of years I started doing it with podcasts and longer TH-cam videos and now I can't go to sleep without them. (I also just got diagnosed with ADHD, and I know at least my ex had ADHD too).
every time i tried to sleep in silence as a kid I couldn't,i remember spending hours tossing and turning,nothing really helped until i started sleeping with my earbuds in, listening to podcasts and stuff. sitting in silence made my thoughts race,so listening to people talk about things helped,like a lot,now i can't sleep without earbuds
Same. I use a guided sleep meditation. My parents used to take us on car rides when my siblings and I were babies if they couldn’t get us to sleep. The lull of the car engine somehow knocking us out. We also slept or napped wherever they were, so often in busy rooms with all the adults talking. We’d pass out like that. Without the mild/guided external stimulation my mind runs wild for hours…
My Grandparents were always listening to the TV in the living room, and while I couldn't usually hear what was being said, I could hear people talking, their tone of voice, etc, and it was soothing. Now, I need SOME sort of noise. Preferably one that isn't totally consistent. I usually go with a fan. But, if I try putting on something that changes TOO much, I find myself focusing on it, and struggling to sleep. I can't put on podcasts and the like because I'll be so busy listening that I just... won't sleep. It's a frustrating balancing act. When I ran off to college for a semester, I found the sound of traffic to be pretty much perfect. There wasn't tons where I was staying, so it wasn't crazy, but there was enough that it was consistent and at a good volume. Alas, then I had to move back home where traffic is rare and far enough away that a police siren passing by on the nearest main road is barely noticeable. *sigh* Rez problems.
im a female with the inattentive type of adhd, not the hyperactive one. I didn't have many issues in school growing up although I never did homework, I was bright enough to get straight b's without it. i paid attention mostly in school because learning is something that interests me for the most part. I didn't get a diagnosis of ADHD until this past year at 27 years old but my ENTIRE life I have had sleep issues with no explanation. first it was you're just a teenager, then it was because I'm diabetic. I didn't have insomnia because once I fall asleep I sleep well, I dream a lot, I don't have tons of trouble staying asleep, but falling asleep can take me literal hours. I actually at one point thought I had a disorder that's common among blind people called sleep phase disorder because when the sun comes up i get tired. Realizing I had adhd was such a relief in this aspect beecause it has allowed me to enforce a routine and understand why I had sleep issues in the first place. and thank you for this video shedding light on it!!!! I hope it helps other people who didn't realize.
Same, I relate to basically everything you said, I'm here, at 17, trying to get a diagnosis but psychiatry in general sucks in my country. I decided to visit a psychiatrist but instead of giving me tests and/or a diagnosis, she just give me a receipt for the heaviest dose of ritalin (if remember right, it was ritalin LA, enough to last me a month, is super expensive and addictive as well), no questions asked, and sent me on my way. Is kinda hard to even discuss the issue when my mom doesn't take me seriously, nor my aunt when my cousin, who has the same problems, tries to discuss the same with her. (I mean, my aunt thinks we're paranoid, having ideas, and it's all because we're always on our phones, and my mom isn't much better) Edit: so... I tried to discuss the issue with my mom again today. She said that everyone has issues and that I just have to get over it, and that if I can find motivation to keep up with my life it would be better if I just ended it. I'm currently trying to keep my distance for her as much as I can cause I realized she can be quite toxic at times and she's extremely ableist. Yay T^T
It sounds strange that you don’t have any trouble focussing though. In any group work at school, I would always have trouble focussing because of how loud it gets with 30 students all dicussing projects in a room. I pretty much need as much silence as possible to be able to do something as simple as reading and interpreting a sentence. The readings part I can still do, but actually interpreting what I read requires near dead silence.
I'm 26, just weeks away from 27, and can agree that I'm now being considered to have add/adhd. It's nice to know that these issues may not be related to me for a negative reason like "teenager", "immature", or "just don't want to listen"
I'm afab with combined, but primarily inattentive ADHD, and I relate to this so much. I just got diagnosed this year at 29. We never noticed it when I was a kid because my brother has primarily hyperactive symptoms, and that's what we were looking for.
I’m not diagnosed with ADHD at age 19 but I have quite a few similarities. I’ve always stayed up late and any time I go on holiday, my sleep schedule IMMEDIATELY gets pushed further and further back until I’m going to bed at 4am and 6am etc. Im smart enough to have gotten by in high school and my degree but only if I’m interesting or passionate in something, otherwise I will literally feel my body reject the desire to study or work and I get distracted and do other things and waste hours upon hours of my day because trying to sit down and study makes me yawn and fall asleep. It’s been incredibly challenging for me and it’s beginning to affect my degree because I can’t bring myself to sit down and work and I struggle so much to wake up and be productive but then I’m very alert at night (which is great for me to do chores, but not for work)
I always feel a little left out in these ADHD/sleep issues. I have the other type of sleep issue, I’m always tired no matter when I go to bed (8pm or 2am) and I never have an easy time getting up to an alarm. If left to my own devices I end up on a weird delayed sleep schedule sleeping 2am to 12pm and feeling like garbage (mostly in college). But now as an adult I sleep from around 8/9pm to 6am and I still never want to get up to the dang alarm clock. I would still rather sleep til like 9/10am if I had a choice. I know so many other ADHDers have troubles falling asleep and staying asleep, but I can sleep as soon as my head hits a pillow and I don’t wanna get up. It’s like hypersomnia or something. Feels very opposite to most other ADHDers. I struggle with it so much I sometimes have nightmares about not being able to wake up, or about falling asleep without being able to stop myself (although, aside from a boring class, I’ve never fallen asleep in a dangerous situation driving/etc). Very strange.
I had the "always tired" part for a while as well and part of my treatment meds-wise was to take both a stimulant as well as an antidepressant that does both norepinephrine and dopamine. If you are on meds, talk to your doctor about it to see what they think!
I go to sleep around 2a and wake up around 10a if life isn't stressful but if major stuff is going on (and it's often the case) I might need more sleep. And that doesn't even include naps. But yeah, I could almost always stay in bed longer. I can totally relate.
Honestly, I relate to this issue as well. I almost got no trouble falling asleep and no matter how long I sleep I still have a very hard time waking up. Being able to sleep for a bit more at the weekend is a big bliss for me.
I feel like as opposed to simple treatment of the individual, we as a society also need to have more options for people with different circadian rhythms. I can say from experience that my sleep schedule gets whack because I can’t fall asleep at a “normal” time, I have to wake up at 6am for, say, school, and after a while the sleep deprivation catches up to me and I crash. I’m just tired of being told I’m lazy by one group of people for not being able to sleep properly, and being told I’m defective by another group because I can’t fit into a schedule not made for people like me.
This is the truest statement ever...I never understood why sleeping in late for work makes you a "bad" employee. Maybe my body just needs longer rest for my circadian rhythm??
@@ptlovelight2971 because punctuality is a thing. It depends on the job requirements. I chose a bad job for my sleeping habits. It comes down to following through on what is expected/agreed upon.
You can change it, maybe not completely, but you can make it better. Do whatever you can to make sure you are absolutely exhausted around the time you would like to be able to go to bed. This might mean doing extra work or activities to wear yourself out, eating less to reduce your energy levels, cutting sugar and caffein in the afternoons etc. And do not look at a device with a screen within one hour of bedtime. You may find that exhaustion will gradually pull your bedtime forward bit by bit and getting up early will get easier bit by bit. Be patient and work at it and it might get easier for you!
@@ptlovelight2971 it really depends on your work output I am admittedly very bad at getting to work on time. I work 3 to midnight at Walmart (so I can help my rhythm a little bit) I struggle getting up in the morning not just cause of adhd but also other mental health issues I suffer from) my work doesn’t look upon it kindly but tbh I’m not gonna get fired cause once I DO come in I do my job very well and when I zone (zoning is going through each isle and pulling stuff forward to make it look nice!) I do so well my boss has made a standard in my name and no one needs to check my work unless I’m zoning during hours when customers are still shopping I also am mainly a cashier (though I love stalking and try to do it when I can) my hyper focus can be a deficit for sure hit also helps me recognize when the phone is ringing, or self check has a error cause there is a very particular sound that happens. Through whatever happens I hope you all can find a job you enjoy/can be good at! I don’t particularly enjoy my job but I get paid decent and I am proud of the work I do.
I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD since childhood. Now I’m nearing my 20s and I’m noticing my disorder more and more as I age. The effects of ADHD really don’t end at “lack of focus” or “trouble concentrating”... I feel like now, more than ever, it’s affecting me at a very personal and emotional level. Not gonna get into the details but my point is, I think ADHD (or at least, mine) is a lot more “disabling” than I originally anticipated... I didn’t notice it then because I was in high school, a catered and structured environment... but now... what the hell...
Inability to remember things without prompting, inability to memorize sequences, inability to do mental math, inability to spell, intrusive thoughts, compulsive behaviors, unconscious behaviors, emotions that don't seem to line up with the descriptions given by others, looping though chains, inability to effectively empathize with others, and a singular disconnect between the way that you frame your thoughts and the ways everyone else does that leads them to consistently misunderstand you (the reverse direction being only slightly better).
Inattentive type here, I’m fine with staying asleep however often I’m sleeping too much or not at all. Also don’t have much control over when I go to sleep - consistent sleep routine is impossible, I can try go to sleep at 10pm but I could be up till 3am or not sleep at all.
@@adrianmars5479 spent years smoking weed to fall asleep and it worked for a bit, but then I started having to stay up so late to sneak a smoke that it was counter intuitive. After a while the anxiety and psychosis started oops
@@ninjapancake9 have you tried gummies instead of smoking? I generally switch between them depending on how I feel. Sometimes you do have to switch up how you take weed ri get the effects you need. I'll smoke from a vape for a few weeks take a gummy every couple days, then switch back to using a pipe and I gummies, then a few weeks later its pipe and vape, then repeat. Oh also trying another strand? Working out right before smoking and putting on an audio only podcast helps too. ASMR, or having a real big meal 2or 3hours beforehand have helped me as well. Kinda gotta mix more then one factor, cutting back on the amount if weed you smoke for a while can help gain back feels you lose when your tolerance is high-
I only smoke either barely a full bowl that I finish off the next night, openly take 1or 2 hits from my vape. Max heat 3 to 5 second inhale. When your tolerance is high those effects you feel lose their edge. Go without for a while it you can, you can start with 1day then 2 days, etc. Always makesureto give yourself time away from weed for a bit, helps with sleep as well to not always be smoking it, cant explain it but yeah xnsnjs
It’s the “Hunter Brain” theory. That people with ADHD (among other neurodivergences) had an evolutionary niche in our hunter/gatherer days, wether it’s the “always on, hyper vigilance” of someone watching for predators, or the insomnia of being the one that watched the fires at night. I doubt there’s much credence to it, to be honest, and just a way to go “see, you were useful!”
@@Felinius I’d say a much better explanation is that before the modern era of schooling, rigid work schedules and sedentary lifestyles ADHD would really not be all that noticeable. It’s a real disorder without modernity but it’s been severely exacerbated by modernity.
Old post, I know but I find it interesting that people with ADHD are largely considered not as aware as "normals" lol...at 4 years old, I would give myself stomach aches trying to comprehend the ideas of eternity and infinity.
Yeah in the summer I find a fast hard bike ride an hour or 2 before bed helps since I tire myself out. Winter......well then I'm crap out of luck or go to the gym
@@alicomando1195 and yet you are just as much that Thing as it is not, without contradicting itself. Or yourself in this case. You are as much in control as you are not. It doesn't cancel eachother out, yet they are definitely opposites, I can promise you that. Consider it. The more you figure this riddle out, the greater the reward will be. You're doing great, it's your default to do your best after all! Keep it up and have fun with this puzzle.
I have never felt so seen by a video before, and while I have seen some attributes of ADHD and thought “Huh, maybe I have that”, nothing has ever made me want to get tested more than this video. It’s like you watched my specific sleep cycle and reported on it.
Yeah, see my comment. Pretttttty sure the algorithm is watching us and keeping track of stuff and I'm not keen to it. It needs to keep it's nose outta my business. I wasn't looking for anything like this and now... it may have made a powerful enemy.....
spittin facts!! ive always said i have no idea what being well rested feels like. even if i sleep for 15 hours straight, it still feels like i was dead for 200 years and a necromancer wrenched me back into the land of consciousness . existence with adhd is never-ending fatigue on top of everything else
Have you been tested for sleep apnea? I have ADHD & Sleep Apnea. what you're describing sounds like how I felt every day of my life before I was diagnosed & treated fpr sleep apnea. My sleep symptoms, including insomnia improved, andy ADHD symptoms radically improved to the point that I could finally het ahead of the that challenge. Being too tored makes ot really hard to be skillful with my ADHD.
If you can't fall into deep sleep but stay in the REM stage, or get interrupted in deep sleep instead of rising back from deep into REM before waking, you're basically experiencing the equivalent of not allowing your brain to reboot / getting interrupted midway through its rebooting cycle. It can't rest, regulate your body and itself, consolidate memories properly, etc. Long amounts of poor quality sleep are almost as useless as no sleep at all. : / . Chronic pain or Restless Leg Syndrome can cause this issue, too, for anyone else reading.
What I always say about sleep is "I don't fall asleep, I go to sleep. Sleep is an active, rather than passive, thing that I have to do. It won't happen on is own, most of the time"
I always say "Sleep is a thing my body does when it physically can't do anything else, which is why it takes until I suddenly can barely maintain consciousness for me to not be wide awake"
@@Axl4325 no for real!! I can be violently exhausted (as I am now and I have to wake up in 90 minutes fml) and I’ll stay up if I’m entertained but if I’m bored I’ll just go to bed or take a nap instead existing in boredom or silence lol
Could also be that our jobs and school systems have rigid schedules, a lack of sick days and a constant requirement of your attention while also forcing you to be perfectly still.
It's pure madness!!!! Humans are physically designed to be on the move. We have too many joints and muscles to be idle and a biological need to socialize and play. Dont go against nature and tell me I'm the problem lol
As someone diagnosed with adhd at age 5, nearly 27 years ago, and as someone fascinated by all things biology and paleontology, I still hold (and this is also the analogy i use to explain how my brain works to neurotypicals) that adhd is a holdover/throwback to when society wasn't quite society as we see it now. Our brains think we are still on the Serengeti and we are the meerkat sentries of society. Always on guard to what is around us. Always ready to call it like it is, and keep everyone calm and organized in the chaos of something gone wrong, because chaos from taking in all the signals and cataloging those signals is what our brains know best.
@@nargonzales6165 if you're of legal age I recommend cbd for sleep! If not then good luck getting good amounts of sleep as a youth in the school system :( in all of high-school and middle school I really only got between 3-5 hours of sleep max in between all the school work, stress, and adhd probs:(
ASMR or simple sitcoms you’ve already seen in the background (somewhere where u can hear it well but wont watch it) seems to be the trick for me. I too have the issue where if my brain isnt working on something, i have mild insomnia. Yt in the background usually fixes it for me. No sleep meds needed.
I do the same but not just because I can't sleep but THE FREAKING TINNITUS IS ANNOYING BEEPING ENDLESSLY AND LOUDER IF I FOCUS ON IT. Irritating af....
"the brain using hyperactivity to keep itself awake" really blew my mind because I have that happen on occasion. Try to fall asleep by 10, tossing and turning and thinking till 3.
One of the most prominent effects of being medicated was the best sleep of my adult life. Important to note that when people with ADHD improve their sleep they still have ADHD - showing the condition precedes the sleep issues.
The thing that clued me in that I might have ADHD was that I had gotten into the habit of drinking 2-3 cups of coffee before bed to help me sleep. I had known for a long time that caffeine would put me to sleep, but it wasn't till I was in college drinking it every night that I decided to do some research to figure out why. That's when I learned how stimulants affect people with ADHD, so I decided to seek out a specialist, and sure enough, it was very clear to him that I had ADHD.
@@hukmai That's an interesting way you describe it. I feel so often that my brain just isn't satiated enough to focus on one thing thus why I bounce all over the place and find it so easy to waste hours on end with various things (current addiction seems to be youtube). I'm 38 and was diagnosed at 7. Went off medication though at 14, the side affects just weren't worth the marginal improvement of ADHD symptoms. I need to try taking melatonin to see if I can get my non-existent sleep schedule in order. Really don't want to go back on stimulants (for one I'm honestly worried about abusing them as I've done that before).
I suffered ADHD and DSPD at the same time. Being medicated for ADHD unfortunately didn't help my DSPD (even though it helps many). I had to get a doctor's note for an alternate work schedule.
Thank you for your channel. Your work makes me a better informed and often a more sympathetic/patient human. My son is currently undergoing evaluations for learning difficulties, ADHD among them. You and your content give me more tools to help him and myself. Thank you for being an educator and advocate for so many topics!
I’m an adult with diagnosed adhd, and it never even crossed my mind that it could be related to my tendency to become more and more nocturnal if left to my own devices haha
Yes. When left to my own devices, I also stay up _and_ sleep longer. I always described it as my biological day being longer than 24hrs., and my day falls out of alignments with everyone else's as my biological day slowly makes its way around the clock. I also like to joke that if I was born on a planet with about 34hrs to a day, I would finally be normal (but who am I kidding, I'd probably stay up then, too). Back when I got summers off from school, my hours were all over the place and it drove my family nuts.
@@Bad__Music2262 yoooo me too!! last year there was about a month where I didn't have a job or school, and i kept staying up so late it circled back around to being early
Thank you for being careful with your language. Making sure to say ADHD symptoms and not just ADHD. And emphasizing that ADHD is a complex condition/disorder and thank you for saying that a few times. Even if this video only covers a small part of ADHD it shows people with and without ADHD that it’s more complicated than you may think! Thank you SciShow Psych and Hank!! From and ADHD brain that cares about ADHDers 👍🏻
That actually works the other way too in all do honesty lol. The adhd kid just accepts it and says the same thing as the insomniac kid lol. How I know? I'm the adhd kid lol
The issue with taking melatonin daily is that you have to remember to take it at a specific time EVERY SINGLE DAY. This is quite the feat for someone with executive distinction and time blindness. I take melatonin every night, but it only helps me fall and stay asleep (which is good), but I’m not able to use it to regulate my sleep schedule.
@@confusedwhale For that to work you have to have the medication in reach at that time of the day. I have seen this in a friend he will have his alarm go off an be like "oh I need to take my meds" turn off the timer and if the medication isnt in reach he will continue doing what he was doing before and just forget about the alarm again. It only works if he has his meds on him and takes them instantly
@@confusedwhale sorry I didn't make it clear I was just showing an example of how your method would work and why it's so important to keep the meds on you. You're idea is great!
Even with an alarm and my medication within reach times i forget to take it after turning off the alarm even have set two different alarms as well still happens... sometimes for multiple days thankfully my thyroid med doesn't just disappear from my body. I also use my tablet to record when i take my meds and at what times so i know for sure i did take it or if i haven't yet or forgot it otherwise i had times of not being sure and skipping them because i couldn't remember so i did not end up with double dose by mistake.
Having ADHD as a scholar looks like; watching a video that mentions a medical syndrome, wondering if there's a link between that and ADHD, googling it, finding a link, researching studies about it on a database, beginning to write a research paper about it, and promptly abandoning it an hour later. Only to work on a completely different, incomplete project.
Could you do a video really going into symptoms people don’t know when it comes to ADHD? Like how ADHD causes memory issues and RSD (rejective sensitivity dysphoria)
This is eye opening to my current situation. I had mild symptoms of ADHD since I was a kid .. but generally focusing was not that big of an issue (rather was not able to focus on school courses I did not enjoy) However , recently (past 1-2 years) I have a hard time to focus on my daily job (programming) which I always loved and was proefficient. I Do think bad sleep habits from the last 10+ years have skyrocketed my ADHD.
Symptoms manifest differently for everyone of course, but I’ve been told that only being able to focus on subjects you enjoy is also a symptom of ADHD. That’s how it was my entire childhood, but it also came with periods (a few hours at most) of hyperfixation on the interesting subjects which is how that interest usually manifested. I don’t know whether you have those, but if you do that might be another ADHD thing!
As an adult with ADHD inattentive type, delayed sleepiness can be a real problem for me. I live at home and do my college remotely, so i go to bed whenever I want nowadays, and I very often do have 25-26 hour days which resulted in me going to bed at 9:30AM (yes, AM) last night. I sleep great though once i do finally fall sleep. When i had a regular first shift job, my inability to fall asleep was a real problem for me as i simply could not go to sleep when i needed to. Days i got the least sleep (7-5 hours) were always very rough and my focus and moods were severely impacted. Thanks for this illuminating info, Sci-Show!
Guys please look into low dose melatonin if you haven't. You take 0.3 to 1mg of melatonin 2-4 hours before bed (depending on how quickly you respond to it). From what I've read and been told by my doctor, 0.3mg is what's suggested by research but in some cases it can be hard to get pills that size or that you can accurately cut that small. Anyway it's changed my life. Every day I would wake up already crying. Now I can go to bed at 10 if I want, instead of crashing sometime the next morning. Also melatonin is like $5/year where i live because it's such a small amount of such a cheap product It doesn't work for everyone but legit it saved my life Eta also it doesn't have to be super accurate. I just try to get between 0.3 and 1mg instead of worrying about it a lot.
As a 21 year old in undergrad studying biology who was just diagnosed, it's interesting watching these videos cause now it's just "oh, that tracks." I can't believe I've made it this far
Take it seriously and accept the support you have available. I got my diagnosis in a similar situation but figured "I made it this far, I can keep going". Turns out I couldn't and ended up dropping out and falling into a deep depression.
I’m happy you realized it early on, I’m 1000% sure I have undiagnosed ADHD and my mom lied to me about having Aspergers, causing me to miss things that could have helped me when I was young. I struggled so hard for no reason and now I’m playing catch up.
Yeah, I got diagnosed just after graduating! It would've been helpful earlier, but it's still nice to know now and have all these little details come up and be like ohhhh THAT'S why haha
ADHD and sleep problems here (delayed sleep phase). I’ve been diagnosed before I was 5 with ADHD and have always sleep problems. I feel the sleep problems resulted from the ADHD, but they’ve always have been comorbid. I’ve managed to manage the sleep issues over the last few years, but the ADHD hasn’t changed.
It does.. 🤔 Try Preparation H. Sounds nuts but I guess whatever tightens up the ..whatever.. also works on bags under the eyes. I learned that on Conan and moms been doing it for a decade. Shopping for her has gotten very uncomfortable.. 😕
@@WhitneyHaverstock Sounds uncomfortable! I heard it on Miss Congeniality. Does it work for your mom? It always sounded plausible enough but a little too fishy at the same time.
5:36 I'm literally watching this at 3am 🙈😂 I haven't been diagnosed with ADHD (yet), but I've always felt I had it, and now hearing these sleep disorders I've had since i was a kid just further validates it. I completely agree with the bilateral comorbidities. From my experience neither one causes the other, they both stem from the same place, BUT each makes the other one worse.
I used to have a problem with sleeping TOO much. Once I got medicated I immediately started waking up before my alarm. It’s been a huge shift in my life suddenly becoming a morning person
@@zjljlzll4568 Nonstimulant medications do not include amphetamine. Also the sleep thing is just nice side affect I noticed. Have you tried not leaving snarky comments?
I've never related so much to a comment in my life. If I have to wake up "early" and do the sleep hygiene thing and try to go to bed early without sleeping pills, I am just up tossing and turning and my brain is thinking of SO many interesting things at once. If I am on a "good sleep/wake schedule" (which can only happen via sleeping meds lol ime) it falls apart in less than a month. I just naturally sleep later (always have) so it is obviously not going to work out too often... PLUS in the morning/early afternoon, I am so unfocused and dysfunctional at a default... 2:00 is too early for a lot of things, because I remember everything when I wake up mentally at around 4:00pm It doesn't matter how early I woke up or went to bed, I just am simply not all there until 3:30-4 pm... When I'm falling asleep, & I take my sleeping pill before 3AM it won't work and I have to take another. But if I take it after 3:30, it works beautifully, and I don't need as much.
Same. Be tired AF at 10pm. 1am: like almost manic energy. Covid lockdowns really messed me up. I can't do anything at night like I used to. Further down the spiral ... 😕
You know what might be another symptom of ADHD? Me watching this (and almost all youtube videos) at 2x speed to get all of the information because my brain wants all of the information faster.
i do this mostly with particularly boring videos or videos with slow speakers. i never have to do it with a hank video bc he already speaks at my ideal speed! but i 100% get you there
This is why audiobooks drive me crazy sometimes. If I can get the ebook I always do so, even if I've also got the audiobook. Sometimes I just need to read it faster.
I found the only thing that helps me sleep is imagining myself in a scenario where I'm glad to be in bed and don't want to get out, like imagining it's snowing outside. If it's hot and the window AC unit hasn't been installed yet, I tell myself the heat's cranked up extra high because it's so snowy and cold outside. I did notice something though. I don't function best on 8 hours of sleep, I function best on 6-7. If I get 8 hours of sleep, I feel like I can't sleep the next night. I'm pretty moderate with caffeine consumption, I just have a coffee in the morning at home and another one at work and that's it. The rest of the day I drink water, on occasion I have tea, rarely soda and on weekends when out with my friends I have a glass of wine. I go to bed around 8:30 PM most nights (8:45 PM to 9 PM on Friday night and Saturday night) and wake up around 3 AM most mornings (obviously not New Year's because I like to watch the ball drop and I stay up a little later on my birthday as well as Christmas and July 4th, but like 10 PM later, not late late). Is there anyone else with ADHD that's an early morning riser who found ways to get to sleep fast that works for them?
I think, looking back, my sleeping issues have had the most profoundly negative effects on my life. Through my entire life I've had issues with falling asleep, staying asleep and nightmares. It's hard to function when you're so damn tired. I feel so grateful to have a med provider who has been so patient with finding a combination of meds that help me with many of my issues (add, bipolar and sleep).
My brand of ADHD alternates between insomnia and narcolepsy Then I started adderall and an antihistamine together And it went away Brains be weird, man Bodies be weird too
I thought I would never be a morning person until I started taking adhd medication. Now I love the mornings and am incredibly productive during them. Brains are indeed very weird.
Or, “We live in an ADHD world”. Yes, attention spans are getting shorter, but ADHD is about so much more than that. And it paints having ADHD as a negative, as if any of us can control it.
Yea. Agree totally. And oh boy the hectic pace of the modern world makes it all so much worse. On the other hand, youtube and some calm person talking seems to be just about the only thing to make it even possible to concentrate to tasks like cleaning and making food, so there is that.
@@ristopoho824 for me, a person with ADD I find fast electronic music like darksynth and such making me hyper focused on tasks, but, without something that stimulates me enough I go all ape mode. Also, hi there fellow finnish hooman.
I’ve had sleep issues since childhood, childhood insomnia, sleepwalking… my poor parents! I was diagnosed with ASD1/ADHD at 48 and the medication has been life changing. ❤️
I have ADHD but wasn’t diagnosed until well into adulthood. I’ve always been a night shift nurse because I find I feel better working overnight... I’ve always been a “night owl.” This explains so much.
Same! I hated morning classes in college because I always felt super sleepy even if I forced myself to sleep earlier the day before. I got diagnosed with AdHD in my third year of college and while my parents thought it was something bad and pretended I didnt have anything at the beginning, finding out I have ADHD felt wonderful and liberating because for the first time I realized I'm not just dumb and lazy, I'm simply different.
Me too. And I know of more of my night shift co-workers who have ADHD than my day shift ones. Especially among those of us who chose to stay on nights (or return to nights after trying to be "normal" with a day shift position)
How did you go about getting diagnosed? I think I have the inattentive subtype of ADHD. Similarly, I've always had issues falling asleep and have enough symptoms to warrant a diagnosis.
CZ I went to a psychiatrist and told him my symptoms. I was misdiagnosed for YEARS. I have two close relatives who are bipolar, so this was my initial diagnosis in spite of multiple medications either not working, making me worse, or straight up changing my personality. I think it just made more sense given the genetic factor, I’m female, and some of my behavior fell more in line with bipolar depression (as long as you didn’t factor in ADHD). I also grew up in the 80s, so it was easier to just chalk up my disruptive classroom behavior to inattention, poor behavior, and then a bored intelligent child than ADHD which wasn’t really the pet diagnosis at the time, especially not for girls. I can’t say I had the epiphany that a lot of people describe when I started taking a stimulant medication, where my brain was suddenly focused and I was able to complete all the tasks, but I do notice that I am more focused and less overstimulated at work.
I have always been unable to sleep on time ever since I was a kid. It's been happening as early as I was 7 years old. I remember being in bed at night but unable to sleep while my sisters are already fast asleep. With that, my brain won't stop thinking about random things. Also, I wake up more often than my sisters too. Also, there's this practice where I live where parents ask kids to sleep during afternoons, like an hour after lunch and let them sleep for an hour or two. I can never sleep during that time, and pretend I am sleeping just to not anger my parents. My sleep time has been worsening as I age. My ADHD diagnosis is quite late, so I'm only really understanding all of this in the past couple of years and it all makes sense. Also to answer, about the chicken and egg question. I do believe ADHD causes the insomnia and not the other way around. Just because it makes sense to me from experience.
I haven't been diagnosed, but I have experienced the exact same. I have found playing sleep sounds helps me fall asleep within 30mins (but only if I'm tired). In the past I would rwad until I fell asleep, but now that doesn't work. The stories I read now are too interesting, maybe I should go back to the classics 😅.
Same here, you are not alone. Decades of laying awake alone in the dark for hours wondering what is wrong with you may say otherwise, but I was laying there with you 😊
@@saucy1735 Yep, stick to boring books! I have that with movies, they help me to sleep. Except for interesting documentaries or high quality movies :P Only boring ones do, luckily there are a lot of boring movies released nowadays!
My faughter and I have adhd and the only thing that would help her sleep was playing wave sounds over a Bluetooth speaker. Its funny because I started sleeping better because I can hear it from the other room. I think it just gives my brain something else to focus on.
Reminds me of when I was in preschool and all the other kids were napping, I literally never napped. I just lay there, wishing for naptime to end, every single time. I hated it so much lol. I remember looking around and not seeing any of the other kids awake, and it was so quiet. Teacher didn't care if I was actually asleep, thankfully.
Have had severe sleeping issues my whole life…. Doesn’t help that I also have severe clinical depression and anxiety and when you’ve been awake for 24 hours or more your mind can go to some extremely dark places even more so than usual
Hey, same. I've just been staying up until I pass out if I've gone through my list of sleep aids with no success. I've recently been getting anxiety about actually falling asleep, if that makes sense? I hope you are well, friend
When I was a kid (8-10) I would sneak downstairs in the middle of the night to watch tv while everyone in my family was asleep 😂. I’d watch HBO kids, abc family, on demand, Nickelodeon, Disney, Sprout, etc. Now as an 18 year old, I’m up until the ass crack of dawn, watching on my phone or playing games 🤦♀️ and still waking up before noon 💀
@@agapiosagapiou ADHD is too low adrenaline though. So instead the brain constantly switches focus, always looking for something new, because concentrating on one thing would mean sleep.
The more I learn about ADHD the more I'm sure that it evolved to sort of keep the tribe safe. Sobody needs to stay up later to ensure that the tribe is safe even in nighttime - ADHD. The tribe is moving through unknown terrain with unkown dangers so someone needs to be more alert - ADHD. It's like they were designed to be watchmen or guards.
@@katarina7520well tbh I don't know since I don't know what the inattentive type feels like. Doesn't the inattentive type also have irregular sleep patterns? And I think that the inattentive type also gets distracted more easily and could notice movement in the bushes and such. What I also thought was that since neither like doing the same thing for very long ADHDers could've been the check-up factor of the tribe like: "I am bored picking berries with with Janet so I will go see what Terry is doing. Oh no Terry has been bitten by a tiger and needs me to help carry him back to camp" sort of way.
Maldur Leo Inattentive type feels like you are the world’s crappiest super hero, as your superpower is being able to forget anything you ever learned or did or thought you did but actually didn’t
The fact that ADHD affects nearly everything in your life means whenever I say "yeah that's because of my ADHD" to someone they say "dude you can't use ADHD as a reason for everything". Anyone else ever hear this?
Neurodevelopmental disorders are in a class of their own for a reason - they are not some outside disease affecting “you” - they ARE a part of you. ADHD literally affects how your brain grows and develops. For me, my ADHD feels like a set of tinted glasses - it fundamentally affects every aspect of how I experience and view the world. Sure, to other people I can look “normal” in many contexts, and I often feel normal as well, but that doesn’t mean it’s not still a part of me - not always in a negative way, either. Now, 2 yrs after diagnosis (& a lot of moping/mourning) I’m at a point where I can recognize good things about my ADHD too, which is why viewing it as part of me rather than some “thing” that I “have” has been helpful to learning how to manage everyday life. It’s hard to explain that to others, though (I think my family still secretly thinks I’ll wake up as a brand new, cured person someday)
I found a large contributor to my sleep issues (restless leg especially) was low blood ferritin (iron storage and utilization). I need an infusion annually the past few years (age 55-58). I definitively have a form of ADHD. I believe it has helped make me great at multitasking, but I also have deviancy and addiction issues. All this combined with a strong type-A personality has been a blessing and a curse throughout my 58 year life. Great video. Heartfelt comments.
As an anecdote of personal experience, my adhd symptoms are worse with my poor sleep but even when I have been getting regular good sleep they're definitely still there.
How many nights in a row do you get good sleep? One thing about poor sleep is that it takes time for your body to recover. You don't just snap back with the first good rest.
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every time I learn something about ADHD, my reaction is always "well that explains a lot"
This is painfully relatable
Same
Same
Ditto...
I highly suggest How To Adhd and Tottally ADD youtube channels.
Watching them was a continues "oh... that explain it..." and learning to accept that adhd affect me much more than i realised
Can confirm, I have ADHD and my sleep schedule can get real wild. If left to my own devices I will push my bedtime further and further back, a couple hours at a time, until I’m only awake when it’s dark out, then push it _further_ until I’ve come full circle to a normal sleep schedule.
It’s tough when you’re trying to fall asleep but at 4:00 AM your eyes snap open when you realize you have a question that desperately needs to be answered by Google.
Thats exactly what my roommate is doing. He has ADHD and there will be times where our waking times overlap and sometimes we're completely off.
*Look into Non-24 circadian rhythms?
Same!! I try to go to bed before 12-1AM but if I start going to bed when I'm actually tired it just gets later every night.
@@prinxen1733 That is exactly it, thank you.
Thats how i pulled 2 all nighters/dayers in a week
Very glad not to hear the usual "oh, you've just got to avoid screen time after 8pm and magically you'll go to bed earlier"
Like noooo, I've lived with this brain my whole life and I can tell you, I could sit in a dark room *all day long* but that time between midnight and 2am, I'll be *wide* awake.
EXACTLY . Thank you, my thoughts exactly.
BRUH, RIGHT?!
YES!
Every doctor i saw about it over like 10 years of my trying to get help told me the same thing and a lot of them were actually really aggressive about it. Then the sleep specialist diagnosed me with DSPD and it was like @&#$ YOU DOCTORS 🖕🏻
I just wanna know what percentage of iRrEsPonSiBlE bEhAvIoR is literally a disease we can't identify yet
I told my mom for years that I felt better when I went to sleep at 12-2am and woke up around 10am. She never believed me until recently when she started looking into ADHD and realized that her whole immediate family likely has it, including her.
Classic 😅 which doesn’t help with getting diagnosed or accepting the connection since it’s just “normal” for the family 🙈🤪
This works for me too but my family are always calling me lazy
That is EXACTLY the range I default to when I am not required to keep a “more normal” schedule. Yes, I have ADHD, diagnosed about 12 years ago when I was just shy of age 49. It does not surprise me that this is yet another symptom related to ADHD.
Same!!! Those couple hours of silence and solitude after everyone has gone to bed… glorious.
Whenever someone makes a comment or “joke” about my sleeping in I just think “laugh all you want, I wouldn’t trade that alone time for anything.”
*sigh*… normies.
...Well that explains a lot.
I have adhd but no trouble sleeping, but I go to bed at 6 in the morning 😁
im autistic and potentially also have adhd bc yeeee. meh circadian rhythms s l i g h t l y fucked up and by dat mean im a night owl lol. sleep at 1 wake up at 10. always been like dat. also whenever i miss a sleep cycle after abt 12-1 am my brains just adds 1 on lol.
I Love how i find your comments everywhere 😂 Zufall ? Ich glaube nicht.
Same
I feel like going to bed at 6 means you got trouble sleeping if you’re staying up cuz ur not tired
@@ma.2089 the thing is I'm hella tired and I'm sure I could sleep immediately if I go to bed, but I'm sitting here, doing anything but not going to sleep
Time blindness is one of my biggest problems with sleeping on time personally, and the only way I manage to get to bed roughly on time is by auto-locking myself out of all my devices at a certain time. I also feel more awake at night than during the day for some reason.
Yesssss my time blindness causes me to go to bed so late. There’s just so many more stimulating/fun things I’d rather be doing than sleeping!!
You can auto lock yourself out of your devices?? This is something I need to figure out how to do. I have severe time blindness, an iPad, a nice phone and my brain “wakes up” the most at night. Falling asleep isn’t necessarily the issue. The issue is allowing myself to fall asleep.
What are we the same
Hardcore nightowl, yep. Aka -- Delayed Sleep Syndrome. Possibly aggravated by Seasonal Effective Disorder (which can be either winter- OR summer-blues depression).
I don’t feel so alone 🔸
As a teenager and young adult, I remember wishing I could adopt a 26 hour day instead of going to bed late and waking up tired.
Me too!
I know what you mean.
I've literally had that thought before too
I used to daydream that I had a remote control that could pause time. I could sleep for a bunch of hours while time paused around me. I could also fast forward boring or unpleasant things and rewind and watch memories back (but not change them! Even my daydreams had rules at 10 years old. lol)
I just realised that movie Click with Adam Sandler basically stole my daydream 30 years after I first had it. 😛
Mine close to 2 hours too. After high school instead of forcing myself to sleep I slept whenever I feel like it. My sleep schedule cycles day and night in about a week period. Every day by sleeping by an hour and 45 minutes later than I did the previous day.
I'm watching 3 years later at 3:30 am. Was diagnosed with ADHA this year at age 56. There is so much to learn. As I do learn about it, I'm shocked no physician diagnosed me sooner. Only diagnosed after my youngest was diagnosed, and I started researching ways to help them. This led to my talking with my doctor and asking if I could have it also. So many aha moments since.
Well it’s not really a physician’s field, I don’t know your symptoms but most of them are stuff you can only really fully diagnose if you’re actually looking for it specifically, which is usually a psychiatrist thing.
Yeah, I got diagnosed after going through the second and more definitive diagnosis of my own daughter. I think it’s pretty common, especially for women.
me toooo, watching it at 2:50
SAME. Its 2:57 rn for me
Literally came here to say pretty much the same thing. 2:43am, though. 😂
It's nice having people try to help instead of dismissing it or belittling us for the condition.
Agreed.
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Hank has it!
Love
I had a lady call me a drug addict for taking my ADHD meds at work.
I'm sure she doesn't drink, smoke or take any painkillers or antibiotics ever when she needs them tss
you know the ADHD is real when you're watching this video and reading the comments at the same time when you should actually be asleep
+1 but watching different videon on my phone and tv respectively while reading comments lol
@@feeelf And listening to music
And when you have to be up in just a few hours because you are a health worker and work in-spite of quarantine. Fun club this
lol
Jemma C
It’s 2:35am here lol
I'm just happy for the acknowledgement of ADHD. I get tired of the whole, "just focus more" nonsense from people.
And yeah, I suddenly try and do everything at once an hour or two before bed.
Yeah, like telling a clinically depressed person to "just be more positive" 🤷♂️
ROFL..exactly. Me n my daughter both are diagnosed. When people tell her that she says "o just focus, never thought of that"...lol
I like ur pfp. Dunsparce :)
same! i'll do nothing all day and then before bed be like, well maybe i should go ahead and do that one thing. and, while i'm at it, maybe i'll tackle this, and that, and oh yeah i procrastinated on that too today, let me at least check it out and see if there's anything i can do real quick... and then it's 5:26am and i've just deep cleaned my car and organized my closet.
My dad says that when he has ADHD as well
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW VALIDATING THIS IS!!! i’ve struggled with falling asleep, staying asleep, and waking up for YEARS! i may even say my whole life, it just got worse the older i got
I can vouch for that. I'm 70. It's really annoying!
I’m actually watching this at 3am, and being called out like that was super-spooky. I have chills.
Its 3am for me too
4:32 here lol
Literally the same thing just happened to me lol. So odd, I'm sure it's intentional based on some scientific study or something.
Lol I felt like I was being called out
bro it's 5am and i was thinking the same thing
This also doesn’t include the added challenge of executive dysfunction and hyperfocus when it comes to actually getting ready for bed. If you are reading a book or watching a show it can be difficult to stop in order to go to bed on time no matter how tired you are actually getting.
Hyperfocus is the killer. I got super into a web novel and chewed through like 140 chapters in 3 days.
Dude I read through an entire book in one day, from 9 am to 6 am I just read the book and got through like a 300-400 page book it was nuts, I just never felt tired
Yeah so when i was in HS still
I got up at 0600 and watched a drama til 0600... Realized it was Saturday morning and had to see my little sister and brother. So stayed up til 2200... Because I was just so busy I couldn't sleep
Being in the military like this... Sucks. I literally got rid of all my streaming services...
Yeah I do that
Well, it’s hard to fall asleep when your brain won’t shut up.
Word, bare loud
Seriously, my brain is so loud and annoying when I'm trying to sleep
I know this comment is from a while ago but THIS. “Quiet your mind”? Nah mate I’ve constantly got sound or music replaying in my head like the phantom of the bloody opera.
@@N3RDYG0GGLES yea me too I got the song "bone dry" stuck in my head and random past memories constantly replaying itself
Well you wouldn't enjoy tinnitus
Regarding people who have a later sleep cycle; maybe there is no problem. Having people awake at more times of the night likely meant their ancestor tribe would live through the night. Maybe the real problem is forcing everyone to wake up at the same time.
this, i'm quite happy falling asleep between 11pm and 4am and I can manage a few days on 4 or 5 hours then have a longer sleep
It really is, before industrialisation you'd sleep when you needed to sleep, napping was also a regular thing. Farmers would ofc work at the crack of dawn but then they'd take midday siestas to avoid the midday sun, so did hunter gatherers. Also it was quite common for people to go to sleep, wake up at night, hang around and do some chores for a few hours, then go back to sleep. Human night vision is actually not that bad, and since we discovered fire there was always a dim light source available.
Absolutely this. There is some loose genealogical evidence to state that what we now call ADHD might be the genetic remnants of ancestors who lived a nomadic lifestyle, hence why it's so prevalent in humanity rather than having been selected for.
Most of my 'problems' with ADHD are actually problems with how it interfaces with modern society.
As usual, it's the modern society's devotion to the clock that's the primary problem, not neurodivergent ppl.
Tell that to the people around me that keep pestering me with "maintaining a normal persons sleep schedule"
I deal with the holy trinity: ADHD, depression, and anxiety. The struggle to sleep leads to me staying up for extended periods which causes the anxiety to kick in and then being up late with depression leads me to dark places. I wouldn't wish this cycle on anyone
I also have the three mind problems, they suck and I do agree that people shouldn't be given this, it's annoying and tiring. Hope people can get help for such problems, I have gotten some medication and it does somewhat help.
Same! It really sucks, I also deal with some fears that are borderline paranoiac at times, honestly wouldn't give it to my worst enemy
Throw autism into the mix and it's a real party
I had rough time growing up for the same reason. I got really into body building and boxing and started taking sleep medicine every night. Fixed it right up
Don’t worry when you wake up ground yourself and rember where you are call your mom or even do somthing else like drawing or more comic reading
Hank: "Hopefully this helps explain why you're watching this at 3 in the morning"
Me: "I'm so glad I'm watching this at 3 in the afternoon, not too long after waking up and starting my day"
Same.
Mood.
oh dear, I wasn't even up at 3 pm yesterday and now it's 2am when I'm watching this
Sleep when you're tired and get up to do stuff when you're rested... That should be the goal. The inconformity between your schedule and everybody elses can be mitigated and ultimately may become a non issue if one works towards that end. End result: You are happy and productive. As somebody who rarely falls asleep at the same time every night or day I can assure you that embracing my night owl tendencies and shaping my world around them instead of fighting to fit into the "natural rythym" that I simply DO NOT FEEL.. works well for me. Stay safe ppl
Ditto
I always say “I can’t focus enough to sleep” and no one understands what I mean 😭 RIP to all my fellow ADHD friends
I took a bit of ritalin now in hope to fall asleep soon xD damn tomorrow sucks
Trueee
I used to stare at the light on my radio to focus on something specific. It helped quiet my brain. Now I do guided meditations. It’s taken a lot of practice, but falling asleep once I actually decide to lay down has been much easier as of the last year or so.
Oh my god you put words to it 😧 I play a favorite tv show or a sleep podcast on my phone quietly so I have something to take my focus until I can fall asleep
@@MikeStonerUpUrs exactly what I need. Our thoughts will keep us awake so what helps is a interesting podcast to take your mind off the fact you can’t sleep right 😃😀
As a case study I closed all the blinds and just slept and woke whenever I felt like it during summer break for like 5 weeks when I was 16-17. Ended up sleeping as if the day/night cycle was 26/27 hours long. Funny how this backs my experience up so well. Oh, and yeah, I slept really well during that time, no issues.
Some people who have locked themselves away in a cave as an experiment had 26 hour cycles, too.
yeah I have ADHD and I have trouble sleeping... and my ADHD really gets wild if I don't sleep well, it's a whole cycle
ADD, if anyone would diagnose me but sleep isn't as available as I would want it.
I will always go to bed later and later every day, and always have to force myself to go to bed. And every single sound wakes me. (went to sleep at 6am today.) LOL
same😔
SAME.
Try drinking a little coffee or soda before sleep it might help it work for me
This would explain why I can’t sleep unless I’m so exhausted I don’t notice myself fall asleep. I’m not saying I have ADHD for sure, I haven’t gotten confirmation about if I do, but I have a lot of the symptoms, including some rare ones, and I have trouble sleeping, making it harder for me to wake up early in the morning for school. Usually because of this, we end up a little bit late.
honestly same, I don't know why but I have to spend about what feels like an hour trying to get to sleep to actually sleep. But even then I'm not even sure if that does anything because I don't exactly remember which point in time I would fall asleep at.
SAME !
Yep same,with adhd your brain is overactive so makes relaxing and sleep really tough.sometimes wish i could just switch my brain off!
Same here. For years I legit had to just lay in the dark and stare at the ceiling for 2+ hours until I finally fell asleep. It’s why at this point I don’t bother trying to go to sleep before I start feeling like my brain is malfunctioning.
Honestly it could just have to do with some other things I 100% have, but I dunno.
you can have even rare symptoms but it can be just coincidence. But anyway if you have think that you have adhd, go to doctor. Cuz adhd is disorded
I was diagnosed with ADHD last year at the age of 62. Every time I discover another connection to my behavior I realize there's an explanation for what I always considered character flaws. Why didn't I discover this decades ago?
Doctors tend to either ignore it or brush it off as something you'll grow out of
Because when we grew up in the 70s… Only boys had ADHD 😆
And of course what I mean by that is girls present differently. (I was that flaky girl, the chatty Cathy, the daydreamer, always late, etc. ) I was diagnosed two years ago at the age of 56!
Because decades ago they didn't realize it was an actual medical problem. At best, it was considered a personality quirk, but most doctors and medical professionals were happy to explain it away as actual character flaws. Something that we could fix if we just tried harder. Something we could change if we had the willpower.
Anyway, I pop a 1.5 mg melatonin gummy around 10PM and it puts me to sleep by midnight, which lets me get the seven and a half hours of sleep I need to get up and clock into work-from-home at 8AM, around the same time I take my ADHD meds so I can actually try to focus on work. This pattern seems to be working well for me, but if I ever have to go back into the office, I suspect I'll need to shift everything up an hour.
@@ANNEMARGARET0319 No one ever suspected that I had ADHD because I managed to get good grades. My younger sister was born in 1971 and had the identical problems as my brother who was diagnosed but the doctors literally told my mom that girls don't have ADHD.
I feel like that and I'm only 36! It's crazy we can live with conditions like these for decades but no-one recognised our symptoms as being anything other than important..hopefully better awareness for these disorders moving forward into 2023/24 and onwards so people don't have to struggle and suffer in silence 🤫
I was having so much suicidal thoughts 10 years ago as a teenage, also suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder. I got diagnosed with ADHD, spent my whole life fighting ADHD. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment changed my life for better. I can proudly say i'm totally clean for 6 years and still counting. Always look to nature for solution to tough problems, Shrooms are phenomenal.
Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Germany. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them
YES sure of mycologist Pedroshrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, addiction. Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I'm so very happy for you mate, Psilocybin is absolutely amazing, the way it shows you things, the way it teaches you things. I can not believe our world and our people shows less interest about it's helpfulness to humanity. It's love. The mushrooms heals people by showing the truth, it would be so beneficial for so many people, especially politicians and the rich who have lost their way and every other persons out there.
Where do I reach this dude? If possible can I find him on Google
Yes he's Pedroshrooms. I know few friends who no longer suffer ptsd and anxiety with the help of shrooms. Never had to take shrooms after then.
I completely agree with the delayed circadian rhythm thing. When it gets dark and everyone else is getting sleepy it’s like I just start waking up &/or getting amped! I can feel it, like I’m getting psyched up for something!
Just take maletonin sublingual pills once. It's amazing. After around 20 minutes, you'd "feel" the night! You'd suddenly feel that it's too late to be awake and it's time to sleep. Wonderful!
yeah it's so frustrating, I'm exhausted and feel so fatigued all day and then when I'm finally starting to feel awake and alert NOPE it's bedtime!
@@digitaldrittenIKR?!
When it's time to bed , I feel like working. All day I'm lifeless.
Gosh, it's maddening.
I think there's an "environment" where this is "fixed" or perhaps at least put to healthy use and downsides mitigated. Buuut I don't know if it exists in society :(
I don't know what we should do
What if the "night owls" are genetically predisposed to be the overnight protectors of the "early birds". It would make some sense in early human evolution.
While unemployed as an adult, I’m finding that sleep definitely drifts due to hyper focus. Daylight is not that important personally (especially for sleep-cycles during the summer); but if I stop doing an activity I’ve been hyper-focused on for hours, like for a bathroom break, the need to sleep comes from nowhere and hits me like a truck! Hyper focus seems to be a very powerful sleep suppressant very consistently with me.
Yes! Sometimes I am scared of stopping what I am doing because I know I'll develop a sleepy feeling if I do.
For my entire life when it was near the time I would go to sleep and I had to do something I didn’t want to do such as homework or something mundane my body and mind would completely shut down
im scared to stop working even when i come home. just making and eating dinner is enough to go right to sleep, then sleeping schedule is fucked and work will be hell
You're right, the same happens with me
I actually sleep better during the day than at night, but I still hated working night shift 😕
"and maybe even learned why you're watching it at 3 am" is the most relatable quote I've ever heard
ah so we're all here at 3 am huh
Did the TH-cam algorithm purposely show this to us at 3am lol
Lol 2:53
IC 😂😂
I jumped when I heard him say that. Lol. It's 332am here now
Hands up all my fellow ADHDers who have to watch videos at 1.5-2x speed so you can concentrate enough :)
Thank you Hank!
I had to pause and restart several times. It sucks not being able to concentrate 🥲
I watch videos at 1.5x so I can concentrate, and I watch Minecraft Letsplays at 2x because it's "too slow", meanwhile other people would probably have to slow down any videos that I edit so they could understand them. Ah, the joys of ADHD.
I'm watching this at 3:38am at 2x speed. I've never related so much to an entire comment section before.
idk if i have adhd but but i had to close the comments so I'd stop reading them instead of the captions
Yep. 1.5X if there is no talk - 1.25X if there is talk.
I guess this would explain why it's like pulling teeth trying to sleep earlier than 2 am and I need to have the lights off a few hours before I go to sleep
I do that. Have lights out @ 10 fall sleep @ 2 and wake up @ 5 then fall back to sleep @8. And miss my 10 am appointment. If you ask why not just stay awake from 5...I try that but by 2pm I'm so sleepy that I have trouble focusing on driving. The warmth of the sun makes it worst. I'm thinking of getting a mini RV so that I can sleep on location to accommodate my sleep patterns and the world I'm living in. The plus about ADHD is that we can do multi thinking.
@@RmcBlueSky Omg you sound just like me. I also have to be in the pitch dark for like 4 hours, then dont fall asleap till like 4, even when im really trying hard to go to bed early for weeks at a time. I notice that I get the deepest sleep from about 6-9am... when most people are waking up. I cant even explain how difficult it is for me to wake up in the morning. Like a honestly feel incredibly drowsy until sunset. And I often miss 10 or 11am appointments as well. It's incredibly frustrating. Society wasnt made for people like us, and we get called lazy. But i think it's clear that there is something off with our circadian cycles, or perhaps there are other factors at play too. Wish I knew what they were.
I can go to bed at 10pm but no matter what I do I only fall asleep at 1am on an average night, midnight on a good night or 3am on a bad night. I have found that my body responds to certain vocal pitches by getting sleepy so now when I struggle to sleep I turn on TH-cam and watch time team. This works best when you have TH-cam premium so the ads don't interrupt things and wake you up again with the pitch change. To deal with the light and the odd drive to watch even though I'm using it to sleep, I use a sleep mask or just close the flap on the phone case. Doing this I can be asleep within an hour of going to bed.....usually......that is if I didn't do something stupid and have caffeine after 5pm.
I tried but woke up and now I'm here at 3 AM.
Use a blue screen filter on your phone it'll put you to sleep fast
this makes so much sense why 7 year old me would spend 2 hours tossing and turning, attempting to sleep but failing miserably
Yup. Sleep was a terrible thing for me in my early childhood. My adhd got better as I grew up and now it's very tame. Problem is I still need to take precautions to ensure I get good sleep or else my entire day will be screwed up.
Same
Same! Then when I did go to sleep around 1 am I'd wake up at 4 am, and be like "CEREAL!" And would run the day off 3hrs of sleep
No; it was because you never had any WONDER during the day.
same here. and now that I'm 35 my circadian rhythm is almost non-existant. with me only taking naps before and after work.
The part about kids being more hyperactive when they're tired opened my eyes so much! I used to stay up late on purpose before tests and classes throughout middle and high-school because I always found that my brain was so tired it was finally quiet enough for me to focus in class but God was I sleep deprived
Wow! That's really cool that you realizes that about how your brain works and you were able to tweak your behaviors to sortof manage your ADD!
There's something almost kinda sad about it too though... I can empathize with the struggle and needing to take some drastic measures in order to trick your mind into managing at life. I used to have to do that for any type of project in school.... Had to wait until the night before and stay up all night and do the work all at once and get it finished just before I had to leave for school. The urgency of knowing it was due NOW, was the only way I could get my brain to do it. otherwise I could just not focus my attention on it.
@@kmdn1 I feel this. The last project I did before I finished university was a a big term project that I had been half-heartedly working on all term, and then it got down to the due date. It was due on Sunday at anytime (because the professor was kind). I started working at noon on Saturday, and worked through till 8:00 am on Sunday.
But there were also very clever professors who knew how students like us work, and made a whole bunch of smaller deadlines throughout the term. They knew that if there wasn't immediate pressure, we would leave the projects to the last minute.
Yeah I talk a lot more when I’m tired
I’m the same way even now as an adult. When I’m tired, I become so much more hyperactive. I could talk people’s ear off. I call it a Sleepy High.
@@williwiebe i need my teachers to do that, i cant do anything without a deadline right in front of me. my grades are due tomrrow during school and i am very much getting my work done now
As a 30 year old woman with adhd let me tell you how right you are and that while I've figured out a lot on my own, you've answered many questions I've had about myself. Now, if you all excuse me, I'm off to get some melatonin.
i was diagnosed ADHD as an adult. One of my college ed class profs suggested I be tested because she saw some of the signs. Since I retired, I've been able to usually let my body decide my sleep pattern. I've discovered I run on a 32 hour 'day.' Sometimes I sleep at night, sometimes during the day, but I usually sleep 11-12 hours and then am up 20-22 hours before being ready to sleep again.
Omg. That sounds so much like my sleep patterns.
This is very similar (maybe the same) as me! It feels good to not be alone in this but it's still nearly impossible for me to do much of anything.
it's awesome that you're able to live in the way that's best for your body now after retiring :) i wish society would allow for us to do what our bodies need, before retiring..
SAME!! I realized as a child that my internal day is not 24 hours, but 30+ hours! Trying to sleep the same time every day is an exercise in futility!
oh my god I've literally never heard anyone else say this, but this is EXACTLY how I function! I told my mom about his last week and she told me I was crazy. But I swear my body is wired for like a 30 hour day! I wake up naturally around 11 and stay groggy or sleepy until about 5pm, when I finally become really awake. I have the most energy in the day between like 8pm-12am and then I am very awake naturally until about 6am. But I make myself go to sleep earlier than that obviously. I probably fall asleep between 3 and 4 every night. But if I could I would just push each day 3 or 4 hours further out. It is so nice to actually hear other people say they have this experience as well. Thank you guys so much for sharing. I'm going to look into this a little more.
Woke up at 6:30pm again today
I swear every single problem I have is somehow magically connected to the ADHD
Yeah I feel. People don't don't have ADHD have no idea how much it effects our everyday life.
@@nicolecorter3533 yess! when you try to explain it their like “oh that happens to me too” like no, this more than “happens” to me Bc it happens ALL the time, it’s a lifestyle I didn’t choose 🥲 and effects almost every aspect of my life. People just don’t get it
You should get diagnosed so you can find ways to get better medically
Try taking a few deep breaths to slow down your heart rate and try thinking about being in a fantasy world, this tends to helps me.
i woke at 4 and have been awake since
Thank you for addressing adult ADHD, it is often omitted or simply ignored by essays, studies or explanation videos.
What do you mean? I thought ADHD kids popped out of existence when reaching adulthood.
I am really glad they mentioned adult ADHD. Most people forget that many kids with ADHD continue to have it as adults, and so many studies are only done on children. So much more research needs to be done in adults!
Thank you! I was diagnosed at age 30, and it's made a world of difference. Symptoms seem to morph as we age, as well. A handful of older adults I've talked to take a small dose of stimulant before bed... it has helped their "everywhere" thoughts to chill out enough so sleep can settle in.
@@JoelRiggs I also got diagnosed as an adult, but when they explained everything to me, so much about my past, my upbringing, my time at school... Made perfect sense. It made me feel like not only I wasn't crazy, I wasn't alone in my feelings.
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Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to give shrooms a try.
Yes, dr.sporesss
Dr.sporesss is the best, he's been my go to for anything psychedelics.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporesss
My girlfriend was recently diagnosed with adhd. She can be sound asleep and snoring but if I move or change the channel on the TV she becomes wide awake like she was never asleep to began with. It's really wild how it seems like she's never really fully asleep.
Thats me HAHAH
@@Ec-pb1tl me too!
I wake up with the slight, indirect light that comes through my heavy but light-colored curtains when my across the way neighbors go to the bathroom, which does not face my window. Never could sleep with TV on though, not to mention channel surfing! I hope Michael's wearing headphones...
I have to be sleep deprived to fall into deep sleep and that's not even a guarantee. My mum can rock up to my house at 6am and I'm already sitting up.
@@volaalov6254 that's me buddy
Same 😆
I have primary inattentive ADHD and delayed sleep. However I'm usually so exhausted by the time I finally manage to go to sleep (usually around 4am) that I will sleep into the afternoon if given the option. If I don't get sleep I'm useless and dragging. It's like I'm chronically fatigued but also have insomnia. I'd love to see a study on those of us that don't have the hyperactivity aspect and see if it lines up with theories. I am so glad to know I'm not alone in this though. I was diagnosed as an adult and it's amazing how much can be explained by it.
It sounds like you have a mostly biphasic sleep pattern. Historically, this was normal! You may also be having issues with the *quality* of your sleep, thus making you 'chronically fatigued'
Your story is mine too. Watching this video now at 6:30 am, I haven’t slept all night and I have a similar pattern(Covid has made it worse). No you are definitely not alone. I was diagnosed at 26, and my sleep problems were the catalyst to get professional help. Take special care of yourself.
@@hmmm_welll889 weeeeell unless your mother is a psychiatrist who specialises in adhd, I would ignore her. Make a list of the reasons you think you have adhd, and see a doctor. Pinterest (of all places) can be a good place to find resources. ADDitude is a good website too
@@hmmm_welll889 even if you don't have ADHD, there is no problem with you using those resources too if they help. If they help you that's all that matters. Additionally anxiety and ADHD usually go hand in hand!
You should *really* get your iron levels checked. I have ADHD and sleep issues, but I also used to be anemic and this sounds very similar to me before I got treatment for my anemia. You shouldn't be do exhausted you can barely function, that isn't normal. (Also sorry if I'm over reacting, my anemia was really bad so I tend to jump and kinda panic if I notice anything even remotely similar to what I went through lol.)
This makes so much sense. Ive struggled with ADHD for my whole life in some capacity, and the worse my ADHD gets the worse my sleep gets. For the last two years where it's been at its most extreme and debilitating, Im frustrated to find out that every single night, even the ones where I do feel tired at a regular time like 10 pm, it's impossible to sleep. The very second I close my eyes, my brain gets overwhelmed with anxiety for no reason and I just cant sleep, and anxiety of course wakes you up more, so 98% of the time I don't bother trying to sleep the normal way because this always happens. I just stay up playing video games until my body physically cant stay awake anymore, and then I'm finally able to fall asleep.
I go through the same thing at night but instead of anxiety its light my eyes force open it gets to the point where even after im tired i cant close my eyes and i just end up doing the same thing as you and do stuff untill i pass out
@@witty9182 how old are y’all I gotta force myself to fall asleep I work at 6:30 every morning 😂
I'm 34 and still do the same thing, I have just given up on trying to decide when I'm gonna sleep, prolly not the best thing for me but sure beats laying in a bed awake for hours!
Hey if I gotta be @work @6am that's easy, I just don't sleep...or I'm so tired from not sleeping the day before I can actually get some sleep!
Same here buddy :/ sometimes I'm so tired I'll just take little unexpected naps during the day. Literally just drifting off for minutes at a time over and over until I feel more awake. It doesn't help that I have sleep apnea but can't afford to see the doctor -_- and wake up multiple times during the night *sigh* who needs sleep right? T-T
@@Kasain27 man I pray you find the funds to help that out I really do
This is actually super interesting. I've taken melatonin gummies for the last few years as I always had a hard time falling asleep, and they helped me feel more alert and awake the morning after. After being diagnosed with ADHD and seeing this video, it makes so much more sense why my symptoms are exacerbated on days I don't sleep well.
I've found that playing something with words in the background as I fall asleep helps my over active brain to latch on to whatever I'm listening to instead of running wild
Hah, I'm the opposite - I focus on the words and can't relax, because if I zone out I'll miss what they're saying 🤦 I do guided meditations though, where the first half is someone talking and the second half just the sound of waves that I can regulate my breathing to. Focusing on the waves hits the perfect spot of keeping me focused enough that my mind doesn't wanter too much, but not so focused that I can't fully relax.
@@FaerieDust I used to try guided meditation to quell my ADHD but then like 30 minutes there's always a midroll ad that plays and just destroys everything
I always need a video in the background unless I’m extremely tired
@@Jellylamps My mom is the same - if she can't sleep she'll put on a TV show or something. I can't do it, I keep myself awake if there's any kind of narrative involved
I never was able to do this for 30 years of my life, and thought my ex was crazy for doing it (he loved falling asleep to Bob Ross videos), or my older brother or roommates who would only sleep with a tv show on (Scrubs for my brother). But for some reason, in the last couple of years I started doing it with podcasts and longer TH-cam videos and now I can't go to sleep without them. (I also just got diagnosed with ADHD, and I know at least my ex had ADHD too).
every time i tried to sleep in silence as a kid I couldn't,i remember spending hours tossing and turning,nothing really helped until i started sleeping with my earbuds in, listening to podcasts and stuff. sitting in silence made my thoughts race,so listening to people talk about things helped,like a lot,now i can't sleep without earbuds
Me too I play piano music on my phone or else I will stay awake thinking for 8 years
Same. I use a guided sleep meditation. My parents used to take us on car rides when my siblings and I were babies if they couldn’t get us to sleep. The lull of the car engine somehow knocking us out. We also slept or napped wherever they were, so often in busy rooms with all the adults talking. We’d pass out like that. Without the mild/guided external stimulation my mind runs wild for hours…
Same--now i can't sleep without earphones and its kinda bad for my ears but its either that or no sleep ahsksk
Same, I have relaxing/meditative music playing overnight and if my laptop dies at any time, I wake pretty quickly after....
My Grandparents were always listening to the TV in the living room, and while I couldn't usually hear what was being said, I could hear people talking, their tone of voice, etc, and it was soothing. Now, I need SOME sort of noise. Preferably one that isn't totally consistent. I usually go with a fan. But, if I try putting on something that changes TOO much, I find myself focusing on it, and struggling to sleep. I can't put on podcasts and the like because I'll be so busy listening that I just... won't sleep. It's a frustrating balancing act. When I ran off to college for a semester, I found the sound of traffic to be pretty much perfect. There wasn't tons where I was staying, so it wasn't crazy, but there was enough that it was consistent and at a good volume. Alas, then I had to move back home where traffic is rare and far enough away that a police siren passing by on the nearest main road is barely noticeable. *sigh* Rez problems.
im a female with the inattentive type of adhd, not the hyperactive one. I didn't have many issues in school growing up although I never did homework, I was bright enough to get straight b's without it. i paid attention mostly in school because learning is something that interests me for the most part. I didn't get a diagnosis of ADHD until this past year at 27 years old but my ENTIRE life I have had sleep issues with no explanation. first it was you're just a teenager, then it was because I'm diabetic. I didn't have insomnia because once I fall asleep I sleep well, I dream a lot, I don't have tons of trouble staying asleep, but falling asleep can take me literal hours. I actually at one point thought I had a disorder that's common among blind people called sleep phase disorder because when the sun comes up i get tired. Realizing I had adhd was such a relief in this aspect beecause it has allowed me to enforce a routine and understand why I had sleep issues in the first place. and thank you for this video shedding light on it!!!! I hope it helps other people who didn't realize.
Same, I relate to basically everything you said, I'm here, at 17, trying to get a diagnosis but psychiatry in general sucks in my country. I decided to visit a psychiatrist but instead of giving me tests and/or a diagnosis, she just give me a receipt for the heaviest dose of ritalin (if remember right, it was ritalin LA, enough to last me a month, is super expensive and addictive as well), no questions asked, and sent me on my way.
Is kinda hard to even discuss the issue when my mom doesn't take me seriously, nor my aunt when my cousin, who has the same problems, tries to discuss the same with her. (I mean, my aunt thinks we're paranoid, having ideas, and it's all because we're always on our phones, and my mom isn't much better)
Edit: so... I tried to discuss the issue with my mom again today. She said that everyone has issues and that I just have to get over it, and that if I can find motivation to keep up with my life it would be better if I just ended it. I'm currently trying to keep my distance for her as much as I can cause I realized she can be quite toxic at times and she's extremely ableist. Yay T^T
It sounds strange that you don’t have any trouble focussing though. In any group work at school, I would always have trouble focussing because of how loud it gets with 30 students all dicussing projects in a room. I pretty much need as much silence as possible to be able to do something as simple as reading and interpreting a sentence. The readings part I can still do, but actually interpreting what I read requires near dead silence.
I'm 26, just weeks away from 27, and can agree that I'm now being considered to have add/adhd. It's nice to know that these issues may not be related to me for a negative reason like "teenager", "immature", or "just don't want to listen"
I'm afab with combined, but primarily inattentive ADHD, and I relate to this so much. I just got diagnosed this year at 29. We never noticed it when I was a kid because my brother has primarily hyperactive symptoms, and that's what we were looking for.
I’m not diagnosed with ADHD at age 19 but I have quite a few similarities. I’ve always stayed up late and any time I go on holiday, my sleep schedule IMMEDIATELY gets pushed further and further back until I’m going to bed at 4am and 6am etc. Im smart enough to have gotten by in high school and my degree but only if I’m interesting or passionate in something, otherwise I will literally feel my body reject the desire to study or work and I get distracted and do other things and waste hours upon hours of my day because trying to sit down and study makes me yawn and fall asleep. It’s been incredibly challenging for me and it’s beginning to affect my degree because I can’t bring myself to sit down and work and I struggle so much to wake up and be productive but then I’m very alert at night (which is great for me to do chores, but not for work)
I always feel a little left out in these ADHD/sleep issues. I have the other type of sleep issue, I’m always tired no matter when I go to bed (8pm or 2am) and I never have an easy time getting up to an alarm. If left to my own devices I end up on a weird delayed sleep schedule sleeping 2am to 12pm and feeling like garbage (mostly in college). But now as an adult I sleep from around 8/9pm to 6am and I still never want to get up to the dang alarm clock. I would still rather sleep til like 9/10am if I had a choice. I know so many other ADHDers have troubles falling asleep and staying asleep, but I can sleep as soon as my head hits a pillow and I don’t wanna get up. It’s like hypersomnia or something. Feels very opposite to most other ADHDers. I struggle with it so much I sometimes have nightmares about not being able to wake up, or about falling asleep without being able to stop myself (although, aside from a boring class, I’ve never fallen asleep in a dangerous situation driving/etc). Very strange.
I had the "always tired" part for a while as well and part of my treatment meds-wise was to take both a stimulant as well as an antidepressant that does both norepinephrine and dopamine. If you are on meds, talk to your doctor about it to see what they think!
Maybe your life is too intense. When my life is too intense, I need way more naps and sleep...
I go to sleep around 2a and wake up around 10a if life isn't stressful but if major stuff is going on (and it's often the case) I might need more sleep. And that doesn't even include naps. But yeah, I could almost always stay in bed longer. I can totally relate.
No because this is literally me, I’m always tired bc of my terrible sleep schedule, I can sleep at 6pm if I wanted to, 11pm or even 5am
Honestly, I relate to this issue as well. I almost got no trouble falling asleep and no matter how long I sleep I still have a very hard time waking up. Being able to sleep for a bit more at the weekend is a big bliss for me.
I feel like as opposed to simple treatment of the individual, we as a society also need to have more options for people with different circadian rhythms. I can say from experience that my sleep schedule gets whack because I can’t fall asleep at a “normal” time, I have to wake up at 6am for, say, school, and after a while the sleep deprivation catches up to me and I crash.
I’m just tired of being told I’m lazy by one group of people for not being able to sleep properly, and being told I’m defective by another group because I can’t fit into a schedule not made for people like me.
This is the truest statement ever...I never understood why sleeping in late for work makes you a "bad" employee. Maybe my body just needs longer rest for my circadian rhythm??
@@ptlovelight2971 because punctuality is a thing. It depends on the job requirements. I chose a bad job for my sleeping habits. It comes down to following through on what is expected/agreed upon.
It's the tyranny of morning people. They expect everyone to follow their schedule and don't understand why some people can't.
You can change it, maybe not completely, but you can make it better. Do whatever you can to make sure you are absolutely exhausted around the time you would like to be able to go to bed. This might mean doing extra work or activities to wear yourself out, eating less to reduce your energy levels, cutting sugar and caffein in the afternoons etc. And do not look at a device with a screen within one hour of bedtime. You may find that exhaustion will gradually pull your bedtime forward bit by bit and getting up early will get easier bit by bit. Be patient and work at it and it might get easier for you!
@@ptlovelight2971 it really depends on your work output I am admittedly very bad at getting to work on time. I work 3 to midnight at Walmart (so I can help my rhythm a little bit) I struggle getting up in the morning not just cause of adhd but also other mental health issues I suffer from) my work doesn’t look upon it kindly but tbh I’m not gonna get fired cause once I DO come in I do my job very well and when I zone (zoning is going through each isle and pulling stuff forward to make it look nice!) I do so well my boss has made a standard in my name and no one needs to check my work unless I’m zoning during hours when customers are still shopping
I also am mainly a cashier (though I love stalking and try to do it when I can) my hyper focus can be a deficit for sure hit also helps me recognize when the phone is ringing, or self check has a error cause there is a very particular sound that happens.
Through whatever happens I hope you all can find a job you enjoy/can be good at! I don’t particularly enjoy my job but I get paid decent and I am proud of the work I do.
I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD since childhood. Now I’m nearing my 20s and I’m noticing my disorder more and more as I age. The effects of ADHD really don’t end at “lack of focus” or “trouble concentrating”... I feel like now, more than ever, it’s affecting me at a very personal and emotional level. Not gonna get into the details but my point is, I think ADHD (or at least, mine) is a lot more “disabling” than I originally anticipated... I didn’t notice it then because I was in high school, a catered and structured environment... but now... what the hell...
Inability to remember things without prompting, inability to memorize sequences, inability to do mental math, inability to spell, intrusive thoughts, compulsive behaviors, unconscious behaviors, emotions that don't seem to line up with the descriptions given by others, looping though chains, inability to effectively empathize with others, and a singular disconnect between the way that you frame your thoughts and the ways everyone else does that leads them to consistently misunderstand you (the reverse direction being only slightly better).
@@TheExalaber yeah, definitely.
My ADHD has gotten way worse since my 20s. I didn't think anyone else felt this way. Thanks for sharing.
Executive disorder. Just can't do anything sometimes.
Omg yes
Inattentive type here, I’m fine with staying asleep however often I’m sleeping too much or not at all.
Also don’t have much control over when I go to sleep - consistent sleep routine is impossible, I can try go to sleep at 10pm but I could be up till 3am or not sleep at all.
same x.x
Bro same just find something that calms you weed works wonders for me .
@@adrianmars5479 spent years smoking weed to fall asleep and it worked for a bit, but then I started having to stay up so late to sneak a smoke that it was counter intuitive. After a while the anxiety and psychosis started oops
@@ninjapancake9 have you tried gummies instead of smoking? I generally switch between them depending on how I feel. Sometimes you do have to switch up how you take weed ri get the effects you need.
I'll smoke from a vape for a few weeks take a gummy every couple days, then switch back to using a pipe and I gummies, then a few weeks later its pipe and vape, then repeat.
Oh also trying another strand? Working out right before smoking and putting on an audio only podcast helps too. ASMR, or having a real big meal 2or 3hours beforehand have helped me as well.
Kinda gotta mix more then one factor, cutting back on the amount if weed you smoke for a while can help gain back feels you lose when your tolerance is high-
I only smoke either barely a full bowl that I finish off the next night, openly take 1or 2 hits from my vape. Max heat 3 to 5 second inhale.
When your tolerance is high those effects you feel lose their edge. Go without for a while it you can, you can start with 1day then 2 days, etc.
Always makesureto give yourself time away from weed for a bit, helps with sleep as well to not always be smoking it, cant explain it but yeah xnsnjs
As someone with ADHD, combined type and ASD, I'd love to see more studies on how sleep is different than people who dont have any of them.
The theory that people with ADHD would be look outs throughout history thickens
I didn't even know that, the plot is getting DEEP.
ya idk that would make a lot of sense i get this weird feeling of fulfillment when i can look down on something from a high place (not a metaphor)
It’s the “Hunter Brain” theory. That people with ADHD (among other neurodivergences) had an evolutionary niche in our hunter/gatherer days, wether it’s the “always on, hyper vigilance” of someone watching for predators, or the insomnia of being the one that watched the fires at night. I doubt there’s much credence to it, to be honest, and just a way to go “see, you were useful!”
@@Felinius I’d say a much better explanation is that before the modern era of schooling, rigid work schedules and sedentary lifestyles ADHD would really not be all that noticeable. It’s a real disorder without modernity but it’s been severely exacerbated by modernity.
@@lach888c2 Oh, I wouldn’t disagree in the least, I merely reiterate the theory I recently learned of myself, that falls in line with this.
Flashbacks to 4 year old me staring at the ceiling wondering if I’m going to die earlier since I’m spending more of my awake time at night oof
Omg yes!
same
Same.
Omg, so true. For me it was the same except thinking will not having enough sleep cause permanent brain damage.
Old post, I know but I find it interesting that people with ADHD are largely considered not as aware as "normals" lol...at 4 years old, I would give myself stomach aches trying to comprehend the ideas of eternity and infinity.
Yup. It’s like I just cannot turn off my mental processing until I am exhausted.
mee too
That Thing Decides
I wake up in the most random parts of my home for this very reason.
Yeah in the summer I find a fast hard bike ride an hour or 2 before bed helps since I tire myself out. Winter......well then I'm crap out of luck or go to the gym
@@alicomando1195 and yet you are just as much that Thing as it is not, without contradicting itself. Or yourself in this case.
You are as much in control as you are not. It doesn't cancel eachother out, yet they are definitely opposites, I can promise you that. Consider it. The more you figure this riddle out, the greater the reward will be. You're doing great, it's your default to do your best after all! Keep it up and have fun with this puzzle.
@@11shoopdawhoop My Average DSPD-Non24 Is 24 Hours And About 48 Minutes
I have never felt so seen by a video before, and while I have seen some attributes of ADHD and thought “Huh, maybe I have that”, nothing has ever made me want to get tested more than this video. It’s like you watched my specific sleep cycle and reported on it.
Yeah, see my comment. Pretttttty sure the algorithm is watching us and keeping track of stuff and I'm not keen to it. It needs to keep it's nose outta my business. I wasn't looking for anything like this and now... it may have made a powerful enemy.....
spittin facts!! ive always said i have no idea what being well rested feels like. even if i sleep for 15 hours straight, it still feels like i was dead for 200 years and a necromancer wrenched me back into the land of consciousness . existence with adhd is never-ending fatigue on top of everything else
This explains how I feel perfectly, tysm for putting it into words for me.
@@beaniepanini You feel perfectly tysm? 🤔
@@beaniepanini Exactly
Have you been tested for sleep apnea? I have ADHD & Sleep Apnea. what you're describing sounds like how I felt every day of my life before I was diagnosed & treated fpr sleep apnea. My sleep symptoms, including insomnia improved, andy ADHD symptoms radically improved to the point that I could finally het ahead of the that challenge. Being too tored makes ot really hard to be skillful with my ADHD.
If you can't fall into deep sleep but stay in the REM stage, or get interrupted in deep sleep instead of rising back from deep into REM before waking, you're basically experiencing the equivalent of not allowing your brain to reboot / getting interrupted midway through its rebooting cycle. It can't rest, regulate your body and itself, consolidate memories properly, etc. Long amounts of poor quality sleep are almost as useless as no sleep at all. : /
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Chronic pain or Restless Leg Syndrome can cause this issue, too, for anyone else reading.
What I always say about sleep is "I don't fall asleep, I go to sleep. Sleep is an active, rather than passive, thing that I have to do. It won't happen on is own, most of the time"
That.. doesn't really help. Not for most people, anyway.
I always say "Sleep is a thing my body does when it physically can't do anything else, which is why it takes until I suddenly can barely maintain consciousness for me to not be wide awake"
@@Dice-Z most ppl don’t have adhd. Op makes sense
Dude same, I never go to sleep out of being really tired, I just decide "Yep, I can`t afford to keep being awake better turn off the PC"
@@Axl4325 no for real!! I can be violently exhausted (as I am now and I have to wake up in 90 minutes fml) and I’ll stay up if I’m entertained but if I’m bored I’ll just go to bed or take a nap instead existing in boredom or silence lol
Could also be that our jobs and school systems have rigid schedules, a lack of sick days and a constant requirement of your attention while also forcing you to be perfectly still.
It's pure madness!!!! Humans are physically designed to be on the move. We have too many joints and muscles to be idle and a biological need to socialize and play. Dont go against nature and tell me I'm the problem lol
Agreed🤦♂️🙏💯🤨, that's shits cruel, n a waste of time n it could totally be done beter🤦♂️👎
This world was not made to accommodate normal and unpredictable human function. It was made to capitalize off it
Get a different job
@@austinbrodeur22314 I started my own company last month. Been preparing for years.
As someone diagnosed with adhd at age 5, nearly 27 years ago, and as someone fascinated by all things biology and paleontology, I still hold (and this is also the analogy i use to explain how my brain works to neurotypicals) that adhd is a holdover/throwback to when society wasn't quite society as we see it now. Our brains think we are still on the Serengeti and we are the meerkat sentries of society. Always on guard to what is around us. Always ready to call it like it is, and keep everyone calm and organized in the chaos of something gone wrong, because chaos from taking in all the signals and cataloging those signals is what our brains know best.
I only got diagnosed when I started taking melatonin and realized that a "good night's sleep" was not in fact a myth.
Howd you get a good nights sleep?
@@nargonzales6165 if you're of legal age I recommend cbd for sleep! If not then good luck getting good amounts of sleep as a youth in the school system :( in all of high-school and middle school I really only got between 3-5 hours of sleep max in between all the school work, stress, and adhd probs:(
I appreciate you included content about adults. Adults with ADHD are often ignored, usually studies and articles heavily focus on children.
Thanks Hank for calling me out on watching this at 1am 😅 I don't know if I have ADHD but I definitely struggle with traditional sleep schedule
ASMR or simple sitcoms you’ve already seen in the background (somewhere where u can hear it well but wont watch it) seems to be the trick for me. I too have the issue where if my brain isnt working on something, i have mild insomnia. Yt in the background usually fixes it for me. No sleep meds needed.
Yup, same, I listen to asmr every night. My brain is always so loud at night so having something to listen to really helps
I do the same but not just because I can't sleep but THE FREAKING TINNITUS IS ANNOYING BEEPING ENDLESSLY AND LOUDER IF I FOCUS ON IT. Irritating af....
@@asparrow9876 Tinnitus scares me. Idk why exactly, bc I've had scary AF surgeries that left me w physical issues, but Tinnitus just seems awful.
Yeah I usually just go to bed at 2:00 and wake up at 6:45
@@asparrow9876
I lived in a city, and moved to a very quiet country place. Didn't know I had tinnitus until recently.
"the brain using hyperactivity to keep itself awake" really blew my mind because I have that happen on occasion. Try to fall asleep by 10, tossing and turning and thinking till 3.
One of the most prominent effects of being medicated was the best sleep of my adult life. Important to note that when people with ADHD improve their sleep they still have ADHD - showing the condition precedes the sleep issues.
Fact recently was diagnosed w/ adhd and on medication, I can't explain it be my brain actually feels "full from sleeping"
The thing that clued me in that I might have ADHD was that I had gotten into the habit of drinking 2-3 cups of coffee before bed to help me sleep. I had known for a long time that caffeine would put me to sleep, but it wasn't till I was in college drinking it every night that I decided to do some research to figure out why. That's when I learned how stimulants affect people with ADHD, so I decided to seek out a specialist, and sure enough, it was very clear to him that I had ADHD.
What medication helps you if you don’t mind me asking?
@@hukmai That's an interesting way you describe it. I feel so often that my brain just isn't satiated enough to focus on one thing thus why I bounce all over the place and find it so easy to waste hours on end with various things (current addiction seems to be youtube). I'm 38 and was diagnosed at 7. Went off medication though at 14, the side affects just weren't worth the marginal improvement of ADHD symptoms. I need to try taking melatonin to see if I can get my non-existent sleep schedule in order. Really don't want to go back on stimulants (for one I'm honestly worried about abusing them as I've done that before).
I suffered ADHD and DSPD at the same time. Being medicated for ADHD unfortunately didn't help my DSPD (even though it helps many). I had to get a doctor's note for an alternate work schedule.
Thank you for your channel. Your work makes me a better informed and often a more sympathetic/patient human. My son is currently undergoing evaluations for learning difficulties, ADHD among them. You and your content give me more tools to help him and myself. Thank you for being an educator and advocate for so many topics!
I’m an adult with diagnosed adhd, and it never even crossed my mind that it could be related to my tendency to become more and more nocturnal if left to my own devices haha
So funny, that's how I've always described what happens to me as well.
To my partners dismay, this is the most accurate description I can think up
Yes. When left to my own devices, I also stay up _and_ sleep longer.
I always described it as my biological day being longer than 24hrs., and my day falls out of alignments with everyone else's as my biological day slowly makes its way around the clock. I also like to joke that if I was born on a planet with about 34hrs to a day, I would finally be normal (but who am I kidding, I'd probably stay up then, too). Back when I got summers off from school, my hours were all over the place and it drove my family nuts.
I've noticed more and more of my problems in life all lead back to ADHD. Its a bigger deal than I formerly realized.
@@Bad__Music2262 yoooo me too!! last year there was about a month where I didn't have a job or school, and i kept staying up so late it circled back around to being early
Thank you for being careful with your language. Making sure to say ADHD symptoms and not just ADHD. And emphasizing that ADHD is a complex condition/disorder and thank you for saying that a few times. Even if this video only covers a small part of ADHD it shows people with and without ADHD that it’s more complicated than you may think! Thank you SciShow Psych and Hank!! From and ADHD brain that cares about ADHDers 👍🏻
The ADHD kid: ...
The insomniac: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary.
That actually works the other way too in all do honesty lol. The adhd kid just accepts it and says the same thing as the insomniac kid lol. How I know? I'm the adhd kid lol
who can stay up the longest challenge but both of us are already really really tired but not enough to be able to sleep correctly
ADHD and sensory seeking autism
BOSS MODE
when ur both
@@paellamuncher So this is the power of the gods.
Oh it’s Hank! Thank you, Hank! This info was extremely helpful and explains my entire life
The issue with taking melatonin daily is that you have to remember to take it at a specific time EVERY SINGLE DAY. This is quite the feat for someone with executive distinction and time blindness.
I take melatonin every night, but it only helps me fall and stay asleep (which is good), but I’m not able to use it to regulate my sleep schedule.
You could have a timer on your phone, and keep the medication (on) you (at) all times to facilitate it's consumption.
@@confusedwhale For that to work you have to have the medication in reach at that time of the day. I have seen this in a friend he will have his alarm go off an be like "oh I need to take my meds" turn off the timer and if the medication isnt in reach he will continue doing what he was doing before and just forget about the alarm again. It only works if he has his meds on him and takes them instantly
@@Pai262:
That's... That's what I said.
@@confusedwhale sorry I didn't make it clear I was just showing an example of how your method would work and why it's so important to keep the meds on you. You're idea is great!
Even with an alarm and my medication within reach times i forget to take it after turning off the alarm even have set two different alarms as well still happens... sometimes for multiple days thankfully my thyroid med doesn't just disappear from my body. I also use my tablet to record when i take my meds and at what times so i know for sure i did take it or if i haven't yet or forgot it otherwise i had times of not being sure and skipping them because i couldn't remember so i did not end up with double dose by mistake.
Having ADHD as a scholar looks like; watching a video that mentions a medical syndrome, wondering if there's a link between that and ADHD, googling it, finding a link, researching studies about it on a database, beginning to write a research paper about it, and promptly abandoning it an hour later. Only to work on a completely different, incomplete project.
and the project you were actually supposed to be working on this whole time is due in an hour.
I feel so called out
Get out of my head 😂
@Nikky Ramos - I've asked my mum for YEARS If she'd given away a twin I ought to know about. I think I've just found my twin!!!!
😁🤣💟💕
Actually 🤕
Could you do a video really going into symptoms people don’t know when it comes to ADHD? Like how ADHD causes memory issues and RSD (rejective sensitivity dysphoria)
And poor emotional regulation
Do you mean: literally any symptoms that aren’t just “hyper”
Are you talking short term or long term memory?
@@phillip2169 Short mostly. Depends on the person. I wish they would cover emotional regulation more in adults and children.
Please.
This is eye opening to my current situation.
I had mild symptoms of ADHD since I was a kid .. but generally focusing was not that big of an issue (rather was not able to focus on school courses I did not enjoy)
However , recently (past 1-2 years) I have a hard time to focus on my daily job (programming) which I always loved and was proefficient.
I Do think bad sleep habits from the last 10+ years have skyrocketed my ADHD.
Symptoms manifest differently for everyone of course, but I’ve been told that only being able to focus on subjects you enjoy is also a symptom of ADHD. That’s how it was my entire childhood, but it also came with periods (a few hours at most) of hyperfixation on the interesting subjects which is how that interest usually manifested. I don’t know whether you have those, but if you do that might be another ADHD thing!
"…why you're watching it at 3AM…"
Actually it's 6AM. *GET ON MY LEVEL*
I HAVENT SLEPT FOR THREE DAYS AND I'M HAVING COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF COFFEE AAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Its 8:30am... nerd hahahahaaaaaaaaa :(
I will beat ur record tonight 😉 I will be back!
@@ThePhilipish the night's just getting started at 3am lmao
Ever do 2pm but u actually haven’t slept yet lol 😂
As an adult with ADHD inattentive type, delayed sleepiness can be a real problem for me. I live at home and do my college remotely, so i go to bed whenever I want nowadays, and I very often do have 25-26 hour days which resulted in me going to bed at 9:30AM (yes, AM) last night. I sleep great though once i do finally fall sleep.
When i had a regular first shift job, my inability to fall asleep was a real problem for me as i simply could not go to sleep when i needed to. Days i got the least sleep (7-5 hours) were always very rough and my focus and moods were severely impacted.
Thanks for this illuminating info, Sci-Show!
It's 9:28AM for me and I'm just crawling into bed after watching this video. I know your feels, man!
Yep
ive totally done that all the time. yep. Its 3am now and im not even sleepy
Guys please look into low dose melatonin if you haven't. You take 0.3 to 1mg of melatonin 2-4 hours before bed (depending on how quickly you respond to it). From what I've read and been told by my doctor, 0.3mg is what's suggested by research but in some cases it can be hard to get pills that size or that you can accurately cut that small. Anyway it's changed my life. Every day I would wake up already crying. Now I can go to bed at 10 if I want, instead of crashing sometime the next morning. Also melatonin is like $5/year where i live because it's such a small amount of such a cheap product
It doesn't work for everyone but legit it saved my life
Eta also it doesn't have to be super accurate. I just try to get between 0.3 and 1mg instead of worrying about it a lot.
@@no_peace Also to note more melatonin doesn't make the effect stronger just that it lasts longer important to note.
As a 21 year old in undergrad studying biology who was just diagnosed, it's interesting watching these videos cause now it's just "oh, that tracks." I can't believe I've made it this far
27, and same
Take it seriously and accept the support you have available. I got my diagnosis in a similar situation but figured "I made it this far, I can keep going". Turns out I couldn't and ended up dropping out and falling into a deep depression.
I’m happy you realized it early on, I’m 1000% sure I have undiagnosed ADHD and my mom lied to me about having Aspergers, causing me to miss things that could have helped me when I was young. I struggled so hard for no reason and now I’m playing catch up.
Yeah, I got diagnosed just after graduating! It would've been helpful earlier, but it's still nice to know now and have all these little details come up and be like ohhhh THAT'S why haha
Exact same but 22 :) How is it going ?
ADHD and sleep problems here (delayed sleep phase). I’ve been diagnosed before I was 5 with ADHD and have always sleep problems. I feel the sleep problems resulted from the ADHD, but they’ve always have been comorbid. I’ve managed to manage the sleep issues over the last few years, but the ADHD hasn’t changed.
Yeah... I've accepted that the dark circles under my eyes are a permanent feature. Like Jupiter's great red spot. That makes them sound more awesome.
It does.. 🤔
Try Preparation H. Sounds nuts but I guess whatever tightens up the ..whatever.. also works on bags under the eyes.
I learned that on Conan and moms been doing it for a decade.
Shopping for her has gotten very uncomfortable.. 😕
@@WhitneyHaverstock Sounds uncomfortable!
I heard it on Miss Congeniality. Does it work for your mom? It always sounded plausible enough but a little too fishy at the same time.
Jupiter has a read spot? ANd the circles wont go away :(?
*Me, a person with ADHD watching this at 4am:* oh
5:35 EXPOSED
Man, I thought 1:30 AM was bad.
THIS IS TARGETING ME. I FEEL TARGETED.
Same
A t t a c c e d
5:36 I'm literally watching this at 3am 🙈😂 I haven't been diagnosed with ADHD (yet), but I've always felt I had it, and now hearing these sleep disorders I've had since i was a kid just further validates it. I completely agree with the bilateral comorbidities. From my experience neither one causes the other, they both stem from the same place, BUT each makes the other one worse.
2:50am, close enough
1:45am This is a good reminder video that I forgot to take melatonin.
I used to have a problem with sleeping TOO much. Once I got medicated I immediately started waking up before my alarm. It’s been a huge shift in my life suddenly becoming a morning person
woooo THANK YUO i literally am struggling with that more and moar but i recently got low dose meds so at least there ish hope!!
Did you try other sleep hygiene improvements before deciding to take amphetamines the rest of your life to sleep?
@@zjljlzll4568 Nonstimulant medications do not include amphetamine.
Also the sleep thing is just nice side affect I noticed.
Have you tried not leaving snarky comments?
@@RealityRogue Thought you were an adderall apologist mb. What are you on then
@@zjljlzll4568 Amphi ish literalli illegal in the EU lmao ((thou my doctor wishes it vvasn't..))
i don't wanna answer unasked, but -Medikinet 10mg-
10 AM to 4 PM: I sleep
2:00 AM to 4:00 AM: PURE CRACK ENERGY
I've never related so much to a comment in my life. If I have to wake up "early" and do the sleep hygiene thing and try to go to bed early without sleeping pills, I am just up tossing and turning and my brain is thinking of SO many interesting things at once. If I am on a "good sleep/wake schedule" (which can only happen via sleeping meds lol ime) it falls apart in less than a month. I just naturally sleep later (always have) so it is obviously not going to work out too often... PLUS in the morning/early afternoon, I am so unfocused and dysfunctional at a default... 2:00 is too early for a lot of things, because I remember everything when I wake up mentally at around 4:00pm It doesn't matter how early I woke up or went to bed, I just am simply not all there until 3:30-4 pm... When I'm falling asleep, & I take my sleeping pill before 3AM it won't work and I have to take another. But if I take it after 3:30, it works beautifully, and I don't need as much.
100000% same
Same. Be tired AF at 10pm. 1am: like almost manic energy. Covid lockdowns really messed me up. I can't do anything at night like I used to. Further down the spiral ... 😕
@@jenk7138 Ever tried smoking a fat bowl of indica at night? That always seems to help me
Yeah for me is from 11 PM to 2 AM
You know what might be another symptom of ADHD? Me watching this (and almost all youtube videos) at 2x speed to get all of the information because my brain wants all of the information faster.
i do this mostly with particularly boring videos or videos with slow speakers. i never have to do it with a hank video bc he already speaks at my ideal speed! but i 100% get you there
I tend to play it at 1.25 lol. Can't pay attention if its to slow, zone out if it's to fast🤣
Wow🤯, big brain as girl🤯🙏📈💯☁️
@@sofiavelasco8177 , yeah that's my range too. I'll do 1.5x sometimes and rewind or slowdown every now and then if I missed something.
This is why audiobooks drive me crazy sometimes. If I can get the ebook I always do so, even if I've also got the audiobook. Sometimes I just need to read it faster.
I found the only thing that helps me sleep is imagining myself in a scenario where I'm glad to be in bed and don't want to get out, like imagining it's snowing outside. If it's hot and the window AC unit hasn't been installed yet, I tell myself the heat's cranked up extra high because it's so snowy and cold outside. I did notice something though. I don't function best on 8 hours of sleep, I function best on 6-7. If I get 8 hours of sleep, I feel like I can't sleep the next night. I'm pretty moderate with caffeine consumption, I just have a coffee in the morning at home and another one at work and that's it. The rest of the day I drink water, on occasion I have tea, rarely soda and on weekends when out with my friends I have a glass of wine. I go to bed around 8:30 PM most nights (8:45 PM to 9 PM on Friday night and Saturday night) and wake up around 3 AM most mornings (obviously not New Year's because I like to watch the ball drop and I stay up a little later on my birthday as well as Christmas and July 4th, but like 10 PM later, not late late). Is there anyone else with ADHD that's an early morning riser who found ways to get to sleep fast that works for them?
"...why you're watching it at 3am"
✅ I recognise myself in this picture and I don't like it.
It’s 5:30 help
I watched the whole video and didn’t even notice he said that lmao I wonder how much I actually heard
@@aurisb3800 It's five months later. Have you gone to bed yet? I'm worried.
@@RustyGonzo luckily yes
@@aurisb3800 Oh thank God.
When he said "And maybe even learned why you're watching it at 3am" it felt almost like a forth-wall break for me
He said that when my clock was LITERALLY 3am on my laptop
I happen to have started watching this video at 3:01am, and as a diagnosed individual, I feel appropriately and educationally called out.
I think, looking back, my sleeping issues have had the most profoundly negative effects on my life. Through my entire life I've had issues with falling asleep, staying asleep and nightmares.
It's hard to function when you're so damn tired.
I feel so grateful to have a med provider who has been so patient with finding a combination of meds that help me with many of my issues (add, bipolar and sleep).
My brand of ADHD alternates between insomnia and narcolepsy
Then I started adderall and an antihistamine together
And it went away
Brains be weird, man
Bodies be weird too
I thought I would never be a morning person until I started taking adhd medication. Now I love the mornings and am incredibly productive during them. Brains are indeed very weird.
I know this comment is from 10 months ago, but I just wanted to throw this information out there. People with narcolepsy can also have insomnia
@@emmcintyre24 maybe they meant they have one or the other at a time and not both simultaneously
Who's heard this one,
"Oh, well we're all just a little bit ADHD sometimes because of our phones and Facebook."
Or, “We live in an ADHD world”. Yes, attention spans are getting shorter, but ADHD is about so much more than that. And it paints having ADHD as a negative, as if any of us can control it.
Yea. Agree totally. And oh boy the hectic pace of the modern world makes it all so much worse. On the other hand, youtube and some calm person talking seems to be just about the only thing to make it even possible to concentrate to tasks like cleaning and making food, so there is that.
@@ristopoho824 for me, a person with ADD I find fast electronic music like darksynth and such making me hyper focused on tasks, but, without something that stimulates me enough I go all ape mode.
Also, hi there fellow finnish hooman.
It’s been around even in human prehistory
@@ristopoho824 I hate the struggles with executive functioning
"... and maybe finding out, why you are watching this at 3am."
Well, its 2am here, but i still feel called out right now anyway. Rude, Hank :D
2:36 as I post now. HE KNOWS.
*checks time* ... 2:16 😬
2:01 am for me
2:54 am, and it looks like I won't be getting to sleep for at least another 18 hours.
I came here to say this! LMAO
I’ve had sleep issues since childhood, childhood insomnia, sleepwalking… my poor parents!
I was diagnosed with ASD1/ADHD at 48 and the medication has been life changing. ❤️
I have ADHD but wasn’t diagnosed until well into adulthood. I’ve always been a night shift nurse because I find I feel better working overnight... I’ve always been a “night owl.” This explains so much.
Same! I hated morning classes in college because I always felt super sleepy even if I forced myself to sleep earlier the day before. I got diagnosed with AdHD in my third year of college and while my parents thought it was something bad and pretended I didnt have anything at the beginning, finding out I have ADHD felt wonderful and liberating because for the first time I realized I'm not just dumb and lazy, I'm simply different.
Me too. And I know of more of my night shift co-workers who have ADHD than my day shift ones. Especially among those of us who chose to stay on nights (or return to nights after trying to be "normal" with a day shift position)
How did you go about getting diagnosed? I think I have the inattentive subtype of ADHD. Similarly, I've always had issues falling asleep and have enough symptoms to warrant a diagnosis.
@@downbad4urdad usually you need a psychiatrist to diagnose and prescribe medications for ADHD. But check the 'rules' for your country
CZ I went to a psychiatrist and told him my symptoms. I was misdiagnosed for YEARS. I have two close relatives who are bipolar, so this was my initial diagnosis in spite of multiple medications either not working, making me worse, or straight up changing my personality. I think it just made more sense given the genetic factor, I’m female, and some of my behavior fell more in line with bipolar depression (as long as you didn’t factor in ADHD). I also grew up in the 80s, so it was easier to just chalk up my disruptive classroom behavior to inattention, poor behavior, and then a bored intelligent child than ADHD which wasn’t really the pet diagnosis at the time, especially not for girls.
I can’t say I had the epiphany that a lot of people describe when I started taking a stimulant medication, where my brain was suddenly focused and I was able to complete all the tasks, but I do notice that I am more focused and less overstimulated at work.
I have always been unable to sleep on time ever since I was a kid. It's been happening as early as I was 7 years old. I remember being in bed at night but unable to sleep while my sisters are already fast asleep. With that, my brain won't stop thinking about random things. Also, I wake up more often than my sisters too. Also, there's this practice where I live where parents ask kids to sleep during afternoons, like an hour after lunch and let them sleep for an hour or two. I can never sleep during that time, and pretend I am sleeping just to not anger my parents. My sleep time has been worsening as I age. My ADHD diagnosis is quite late, so I'm only really understanding all of this in the past couple of years and it all makes sense.
Also to answer, about the chicken and egg question. I do believe ADHD causes the insomnia and not the other way around. Just because it makes sense to me from experience.
I haven't been diagnosed, but I have experienced the exact same. I have found playing sleep sounds helps me fall asleep within 30mins (but only if I'm tired). In the past I would rwad until I fell asleep, but now that doesn't work. The stories I read now are too interesting, maybe I should go back to the classics 😅.
Same here, you are not alone. Decades of laying awake alone in the dark for hours wondering what is wrong with you may say otherwise, but I was laying there with you 😊
@@saucy1735 Yep, stick to boring books! I have that with movies, they help me to sleep. Except for interesting documentaries or high quality movies :P Only boring ones do, luckily there are a lot of boring movies released nowadays!
My faughter and I have adhd and the only thing that would help her sleep was playing wave sounds over a Bluetooth speaker. Its funny because I started sleeping better because I can hear it from the other room. I think it just gives my brain something else to focus on.
Reminds me of when I was in preschool and all the other kids were napping, I literally never napped. I just lay there, wishing for naptime to end, every single time. I hated it so much lol. I remember looking around and not seeing any of the other kids awake, and it was so quiet. Teacher didn't care if I was actually asleep, thankfully.
Have had severe sleeping issues my whole life…. Doesn’t help that I also have severe clinical depression and anxiety and when you’ve been awake for 24 hours or more your mind can go to some extremely dark places even more so than usual
I have adhd and depression; I totally understand what you are going through
I am so sorry to read this. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know. Good luck!
Yh sleep is essential
I've got severe anxiety and clinical depression. Being awake for twenty hours in a row is hell on earth.
Hey, same. I've just been staying up until I pass out if I've gone through my list of sleep aids with no success. I've recently been getting anxiety about actually falling asleep, if that makes sense? I hope you are well, friend
When I was a kid (8-10) I would sneak downstairs in the middle of the night to watch tv while everyone in my family was asleep 😂. I’d watch HBO kids, abc family, on demand, Nickelodeon, Disney, Sprout, etc. Now as an 18 year old, I’m up until the ass crack of dawn, watching on my phone or playing games 🤦♀️ and still waking up before noon 💀
WAIT! you’re telling me getting “tired-hyper” is an ADHD thing
Yes, that is basically what it is. Just all the time.
It happens! Our bodies pumps adrenaline to survive. It gets to fighting mode.
@@agapiosagapiou ADHD is too low adrenaline though. So instead the brain constantly switches focus, always looking for something new, because concentrating on one thing would mean sleep.
I used to do this at school dances! I'd be exhausted and then suddenly find myself with a burst of energy! That's when things would get wild.
anything is if it sells pharmaceuticals
The more I learn about ADHD the more I'm sure that it evolved to sort of keep the tribe safe. Sobody needs to stay up later to ensure that the tribe is safe even in nighttime - ADHD. The tribe is moving through unknown terrain with unkown dangers so someone needs to be more alert - ADHD. It's like they were designed to be watchmen or guards.
how does inattentive adhd fit into this?
@@katarina7520well tbh I don't know since I don't know what the inattentive type feels like. Doesn't the inattentive type also have irregular sleep patterns? And I think that the inattentive type also gets distracted more easily and could notice movement in the bushes and such. What I also thought was that since neither like doing the same thing for very long ADHDers could've been the check-up factor of the tribe like: "I am bored picking berries with with Janet so I will go see what Terry is doing. Oh no Terry has been bitten by a tiger and needs me to help carry him back to camp" sort of way.
@@maldurleo3377 hm idk for me personally, i do shift my attention a lot but i also completely space out and lose focus a lot
Maldur Leo Inattentive type feels like you are the world’s crappiest super hero, as your superpower is being able to forget anything you ever learned or did or thought you did but actually didn’t
@@SerDerpish lolll true
The fact that ADHD affects nearly everything in your life means whenever I say "yeah that's because of my ADHD" to someone they say "dude you can't use ADHD as a reason for everything". Anyone else ever hear this?
I'm sure a lot hear this especially with all the naysayers, but without context it's hard to judge whether you are right or not.
Neurodevelopmental disorders are in a class of their own for a reason - they are not some outside disease affecting “you” - they ARE a part of you. ADHD literally affects how your brain grows and develops. For me, my ADHD feels like a set of tinted glasses - it fundamentally affects every aspect of how I experience and view the world. Sure, to other people I can look “normal” in many contexts, and I often feel normal as well, but that doesn’t mean it’s not still a part of me - not always in a negative way, either. Now, 2 yrs after diagnosis (& a lot of moping/mourning) I’m at a point where I can recognize good things about my ADHD too, which is why viewing it as part of me rather than some “thing” that I “have” has been helpful to learning how to manage everyday life. It’s hard to explain that to others, though (I think my family still secretly thinks I’ll wake up as a brand new, cured person someday)
@@Tika927 you have worded this so beautifully thank!
If it bothers you, you have to change it
@@svp5thechad408 you just cured my ADHD, thanks
I found a large contributor to my sleep issues (restless leg especially) was low blood ferritin (iron storage and utilization). I need an infusion annually the past few years (age 55-58). I definitively have a form of ADHD. I believe it has helped make me great at multitasking, but I also have deviancy and addiction issues. All this combined with a strong type-A personality has been a blessing and a curse throughout my 58 year life.
Great video. Heartfelt comments.
As an anecdote of personal experience, my adhd symptoms are worse with my poor sleep but even when I have been getting regular good sleep they're definitely still there.
Same
ditto
Oo yes!
Same
How many nights in a row do you get good sleep? One thing about poor sleep is that it takes time for your body to recover. You don't just snap back with the first good rest.