@@Boxinghotspur57 weak premier league? this is the first time in years there are so many competitive teams brighton, fulham, arsenal, man united, spurs, brentford, liverpool, city, newcastle...
I feel like he likes certain managers and hates other managers. He hates Eddie Howe and Brendan Rodgers but like Conte. So for Howe and Rodgers not to get Top 4 with mediocre sides its shocking and a disgrace but for Spurs its not Conte thats bad its that their players are shocking and not playing well. Calling Eddie Howe "anti-football" is padded cell stuff lol, Conte is anti-football. Howe is actually a footballing manager.
Rory is like Will from The Inbetweeners. Speaks a load of stupid shite but uses fancy words so people think he sounds smart. His ball knowledge is shocking... entertaining tho
Newcastle signings were from regulation battle and mid table teams they have no right to be top 6 based on that especially the way top 6 teams teams spend. Rory in the mud on this one
Whenever Buvey tries to go into detail, Rory shuts it down or moves the goalposts. That’s because we all know if you go into detail about anything Rory says, he’s 99% wrong.
He flip flops a lot and can't keep his stories straight because all he does is ''act'' It's all a braindead character he plays up for TH-cam. So much fake outrage whenever he's recording a post match video for his own channel and reading a script. You can literally see his eyes wander off to his script lmao
Saying this season would be a disappointment if Newcastle don't finish in the top 4 is a nonsense. This season the only objective was to solidify as a top 10 club, NO ONE was expecting us to spend a lot of time in the top 4, even with the investment.
This is what every football podcast does now. If a team is doing well, they gas them up and hype up their chances, only so they can tear them down if they fail. If not, pretend you were Nostradamus and take credit for your amazing take. It's why Rory has so many "Arteta's the best manager in the league" and "Arteta's awful" takes on record. Everyone's trying to hedge their bets so they look smarter than they are. It's why none of the Man Utd fans on any of these podcasts was willing to openly accept that they're in a title challenge. Because they know that they'd be clowned relentlessly if they say that, then don't win the title. Realistically, if Newcastle finish 5th, or Arsenal finish 2nd, or Man Utd finish 4th, it's still been a great season. But people will be calling them bottlejobs regardless, even if they do better than anyone predicted they would at the start of the season. Exactly what happened with Arsenal last season: people who predicted Arsenal finish bottom half were saying Arsenal failed because they finished 5th...
The more you watch Rory the more you realise he has no idea what he’s talking about it’s generally impressive that someone can watch football this many years and still have absolutely no idea what he is talking about hats off to him
To be honest with you pal I don't think he is that clueless or stupid more than anyone else personally I hate to say it but I think he says things sometimes to get a reaction? ie for example like the haaland thing before the season started saying he wasn't a good player maybe I am wrong but having said that all football pundits who are more famous and well known than he is say things you can disagree with at times it's opinion at the end of the day ain't it really we all have an opinion on football it's easy but you don't have to listen to the opinion or agree with the opinion of every single football pundit do you thankfully really ?🤣
The more you watch football punditry in general the more you realise that they don't have to know. That said, never forget Rory is a failed actor. Geezer knows how to put on an act and knows that that's exactly what gets clicks.
@@gamerforever2489 *Yeah I do.* Too many balls in the air at Chelsea, too many egos, too many club signings, too much very expensive deadwood, and not enough authority invested in the gaffer's office. Newcastle have a pragmatic, data-driven system of analysis and recruiting in place that is much more akin to the support infrastructure he enjoyed at Brighton-as do Fulham and Brentford, which should come as no surprise.
How is Rory saying Newcastle have a better squad than Spurs. Newcastle starting 11 is very poor compared to the top 6 and Howe is doing a very good job considering the squad
It's bordeline psychotic talk. I don't believe for a second Rory believes it either, he is just a Conte fanboy and hates Eddie Howe(and Brendan Rodgers). Does he really think Romero, Davies, Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Kulusevski, Son, Kane dont get a game before Schar, Burn, Longstaff, Joelinton, Almiron, Saint-Maximin, Wilson.
Rory I normally see where you come from but you've an absolute nightmare here. Newcastle were fighting relaxation 18 months ago and for them to be even looking at finishing in the top 6, Is phenomenal. I get your point however they need time to build a squad capable of competing against the top dogs
Rory always makes the point that expectations change as the season goes on and I somewhat agree. But just because an expectation changes half way through the season doesn't mean the original expectation should be completely discredited. Yes Newcastle will feel disappointed if they don't make top 4, but does that mean finishing 5th/6th is now a failure? Of course not.
Yeah, expectations change but not in the way he changes them. Here he only talks about right now, like when they compare Spurs players and Newcastle players, yeah Newcastle players are in better form but doesn't make them better players. So if the expectations for Newcastle were like 8-9 place. maybe trying to get 7th and they had a great season so far so I would say that if they finish 7th now it would be a bit bad because they would need to have a significant drop of form but if they continue to be in top 4 battle till the end and they miss out it will still be a great season for them... There are also other factors, they've been helped by the fact that Chelsea and Liverpool are having very bad seasons so far and are playing below their actual quality, so if Chelsea and Liverpool manage to turn things around and go on to have a great end of the season that would be Newcastle's or Eddie How's fault, and I fully expect Liverpool to finish above Newcastle and Chelsea to improve, they currently are unrealistically bad...
Rory is waffling so much. Such because Newcastle can massively overperform for half a season doesn't change the expectations drastically for where they should finish. They still need to get rid of about 11 players at least and improve on them
The best part he is a Chelsea fan and they spent half a billion in 1 year and they are Battling for top 10 with Villa but Newcastle with less money challenging for top 4 is bad?
"Howe needs to forget planning and building for the future and just go for the here and now, like arteta..." Like arteta hasn't spent years building to this season often sacrificing short term results for long term gain
Why is Rory (The Chelsea Fan) banging on about Newcastle’s money spending. We’ve spent significantly less than our piers in the top 10 over the last 3/4 years and our starting point was worse. We were relegated in 2016? Where were Chelsea in 2017? Title winners yet they’ve spent over a billion since then and we’re still above them…
Rory just shows the lack of actual football knowledge Chelsea fans have like fair play to his vocabulary but I feel like it’s his eloquence and word selection that has got him this far because his football knowledge is about as good Todd boehlys
I remember Chelsea before Abramovich. Relegation fodder most seasons, the odd cup run, a UEFA CWC win and a bit of success with Matthew Harding's money. That's it. Most Chelsea fans only count the Premier League years.............................
@@doghouseriley4732 Chelsea’s history is basically from 1990 onwards the club was always cannon fodder for big clubs Rory’s teenage years/childhood saw success at a club that had never really had a successful history and tries to make out that something that happened in the 2000s is now football heritage like get a fucking clue the game is hundreds of years old not decades Preston North End have a footballing museum Chelsea has a couple of pictures of some Russian billionaire smiling at his billions ruining the game we all love
I can kind of see where Rory is coming from, but I have to agree more with Buvey on this. We (Newcastle) punched above our weight in the first half of the season, and I always thought it would be difficult for us to stay in the top 4 even when we were briefly sitting in 3rd. For a team that was in a relegation battle last season, to say that not getting top 4 the season immediately after is underwhelming is crazy when you think about it. I personally think our focus now should be on finishing 6th, and fending off the likes of Brighton, Brentford and Fulham for that spot. Heck, even finishing 7th and getting a Conference spot, coupled with getting to a Cup final - I'd have ripped your arm off for that at the start of the season! Yes we've spent nearly £200m, but that is what it has taken for us to just become a solid team that isn't in a relegation battle. When the top teams are spending £60-100m on a single player, I don't think it's ridiculous to say it will take another £500m (possibly more) for us to become a consistent top 4 team.
Rory literally has no idea what he’s talking about. He fails to mention the 600million his club have spent and the endless amount of money forest have spent who are below us😂
Deflecting from the appalling season Chelsea have had after spend a gazillion. Interesting to see these players when their form goes and Chelsea realise the still have 5-6 years left on their contracts. That's going to be a financial nightmare for them.
Rory chatting a load of waffle in this clip, says newcastle have spent fortunes and then proceeds to list Pope, Trippier and Burn all of whom were signed for less than 15 mil. Batman, Isak and Gordon only other signings and they rack up to about 120 mil. Still not a huge amount of money in todays landscape
I’m convinced if Newcastle get Europa or Conference League their fans would be happy to have European games back at St James’. Sometimes you forget the quality they’re up against. Liverpool are now breathing down their necks and look better, it was always going to be difficult.
Might sound backward but I'd prefer Newcastle to get 5th as I think we're someway off champions league but could have a good run in Europa and it'd be a nice building block to where we want to go. But if we don't find our form again and can't hit the back of net top 8 will do 😂 that was what I hoped for at start of season
True europas very winnable look at the final last year whereas champions league unless you get a lucky group there’s a fair chance you don’t get out the group stage
I think I would take the experience of the champions league over a better run in Europa. Plus more of your key players would be inclined to stay at Newcastle for the champions league instead of jumping to a different champions league team's side.
£101m on Gordon, Ashby, Wood, Targett and Dan Burn. Isak, Lewis and Saint-Maximin on the bench? No left back, midfielder, playmaker and striker signed in Jan. HOWE OUT
Howe should be sacked if Newcastle don’t get top 4. With their lavish spending and the travails of Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs to a lesser degree, they should be walking it.
Rory showing his downright ignorance (he hasn’t watched much Newcastle matches) and he has completely missed the quality of Joelinton, Almiron, and others in the squad. Quality may not match that of the 50/100M player that other teams can get, but Rory is spouting utter diarrhoea. I like Rory but his ignorance deserves a lot of misery for his Chelsea.
There was an argument a couple of months back about Newcastle (in 3rd at that time) were best positioned for top 4 other than City and Arsenal because they had the best defence and will only have to play once a week during the back end when other teams will have to deal with injuries.
I'm not even a Spurs fans and I'm shaking my head in disbelief of Rory's shit takes about them in this video. They don't have a CL squad? Give over man, there is a limit to how far bias can blind you.
Yes, they've spent a fair bit, but if Newcastle finish the season with Europa League and league Cup finalists, they should be proud of that. Been very impressed with their decision making thus far. Just gonna admire them now before I despise them in five years time 😂
Newcastle could've easily scored 3/4 goals at city if they had finished their chances but they whiffed them all, newcastle need an out and out striker that's their problem, callum wilson is atrocious
Rory is chatting so much nonsense, Buvey names players and he says they are playing badly so it doesn’t count despite those players showing levels for years and then he try’s to name players like dan burn , Wilson and Almiron who were in form but are poor now yet still they should be doing better . Such a flawed argument. This is the worst ever take I’ve heard from Rory and usually I agree with him
Can't be hard to Newcastle, religation fight last year. Had a great start and our defence has been top notch we have a lot of heart and effort but lacking skill. Our squad isnt deep enough to finish top 4. We are competing with Utd, liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea. We spent a lot of money but we hadn't spend hardly anything in previous 5 years. Our squad went from a championship side to a good premierleague side with 180Mil. Another window or 2 then we can talk about top 4 fight.
I wouldnt say competing with United the 2 games lost one and should've lost the other and thats with United playing every single possible match in all competitions so far with a limited squad for that amount of games but the rest 100% competing with them
It's your forward line you need to improve 100%. It's been a good season of improvement but I feel you wasted the January window.....it *could* have been a lot better regardless of how it finishes now. I think Eddie is a good manager but I think he'll be the guy before the guy who really gets you competing for the biggest honours
I hate this whole 'expectations change when the facts change'. Newcastle were performing to their absolute maximum ability at the start of the season. You can't then take that version of the team and say 'you know what, this is who they are so they should end like this too'. Maybe, just maybe this team is now just playing closer to their normal level. Just because they spent time in the top 4 and were insane doesn't mean they now suddenly are expected to be a top 4 team after 1 damn summer. Also they spent a lot of money, Rory? come on now. YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT MONEY DOESNT EQUAL RESULTS. They've spent equal money this season as Forrest, Spurs, West Ham, Wolves, Arsenal and far less than United and Chelsea. Only 2 teams of those are above them. Start fucking going at Forest or West Ham, not Newcastle who could make top 4. Its ridiculous.
Newcastle’s number one sub this season has been Jacob Murphy and for large parts Chris Wood. You can’t tell me that anyone with that kind of squad depth should expect Champions League. As for Rory’s ‘anti-football’ take on Eddie Howe, Newcastle have beaten Brentford 5-1 this season, Fulham 4-1, Aston Villa 4-0, Leicester 3-0 and drawn with Man City 3-3 in one of the best games of the season. It’s absolute nonsense and I wish someone would pick him up on it
Give over man. Our squad is decent with a couple of actual quality players. Its nowhere near top 4 interms of talent and Top 6 would be a unbelievable season.
As long as Newcastle make top 6 and get into the Europa League then it’s a great season for them. Anything below that would be a disappointment. Conference League would still be ok but if they fall below that then it’s a disaster
Dont forget we had a run of draws earlier in the season and then went on to win 6 out of 7, that could happen very easily the problem is we are massively under performing our XG and have seemingly forgotten how to put the ball in the net, seems like Howe may have instilled in the team the need to score the perfect goal with the highest chance.
Your xG is based on the past. You’re ‘massively under performing’ it because the new owner buzz has worn off and the likes of Wilson ASM Almiron longstaff burn trippier are coming back to their actual form. You haven’t just forgotten how to score goals. New signings needed and they’ll be made I’m sure
@@oliverblack3722 That is what he's suggesting. The reason you could match your goals to your xG beforehand is because a lot of the average players in your squad were in a purple patch and outperforming their level such as Almiron. Your front 3 is virtually identical to the same front 3 you fought relegation with for years being Wilson, ASM and Almiron who would rarely ever score as many goals as they have this season. Pair that with the fact the most clinical player at your club, in Wilson, is out of form it would suggest why you're underperforming your xG so drastically.
@@1882Stu That's because on average it shows the creative threat of a team. It's much easier for a team with an average forward to have 10 xG and score 10 goals rather than a team with a world class forward to have 2 xG and score 10. It's much easier to replicate good chance creation from tactics than it is to rely on moments of brilliance from a player like Kane for continued games on end.
@@fplben8652 but having a 1/10 striker or a 10/10 striker upfront drastically improves an expected goal. The stat is for nerds and doesn’t make sense. Who is expected to score it? Chris Wood or Salah? What if it falls on the players wrong foot? They’re not gonna be expected to score it as much but the stat doesn’t take any of that into account. It’s useless
Sarcasm matey? But it is strange as he with Callum Wilson were his best players at Bournemouth and he barely uses Ritchie He's been amazing otherwise as manager
@@Hassan32132 i personally not on board with the rashford hype and people think if he injured we fucked no if Casemiro is long term injured then we fucked
Dan Burn should not be our starting LB he gets exposed consistently against higher level opposition. He's a CB who covers as LB and is a valuable member of our squad but he just totally impairs our left side not just defensively but offensively
I would agree with you that’s he’s not our ideal left back for the foreseeable future but for the here now and I wouldn’t have him out of the team yeah he’s not performed recently but the whole team hasn’t and before that he was easily one of our best players and just because he’s going through a rough bit of form I think it would be unfair to boot him out of the team give him a bit more time and if he still doesn’t perform then it’s time for Targett to take his place
as a newcastle fan this was so unbelievably off we have longstaff burn and almiron playing every week should be nowhere near top 4 and for the money we spent 200m but buvey is right it started from a relegation squad with relegation players still in the team
I’m a toon fan. We’re so predictable we play the same way every game. Trippier or burn gets it then plays to Bruno then it goes to our wingers. We’ve been found out
Yep. Howe needs to go. We should be changing things. Isak should be playing. Jamal Lewis needs to come in for Burn. Longstaff is useless. Almiron is playing out of position. He's a cam
His remit was top half finish. We've got that and a cup final. Final third is awful. If we had Leicester's attacking unit with our defense we would be up there.
Not sure if Rory knows what he’s talking about regarding Newcastle. Even as an Arsenal fan that game was annoying but that aside, they do play good football. Even city had only 34% possession against Arsenal. Thought Rory would have seen how Newcastle looked like prime Barca against Chelsea just before the World Cup.
I just don't agree with Rory on this "expectations change" thing. He means to say if Newcastle weren't in the top four but were 6-7th all season, then nicked 5th on the final day, it would be a better season than if they were in the top four all season and eventually finish 5th, it would be underwhelming? What logic is that?
The club is actually so much better than the kick off, Geordie consistently had the dumbest takes and he was supposed to be the 'leader' of the channel, this is way better.
Still many games remaining so I honestly wouldn't write-off Liverpool getting third now that they have momentum. Think Newcastle will drop out and United/Spurs/Liverpool will fight for 3rd/4th. I predicted Arsenal to be title challengers way back at the very start of the season and still think they will win the league.
@@lewisepicfootycontent5934 We should but you never know. The next two games will tell us a lot about United and Liverpool. United need to respond against Betis and Southampton. Liverpool need to try and take that momentum into the Madrid match. I'm half hoping you turn Madrid over. Would rather see more English teams in the Champions League.
@@monkey39128 look on our day we can beat Madrid 3-0 but no clue what Liverpool will show up , I feel the same way I hope chelsea and spurs end up going through with the exception of City because I don’t want them to win it ever lol
Newcastle have just come through a period of playing in the latter stages of the cup with a squad that is not built to sustain winning 2 games a week and with no forwards in form. And in that time the only league games they have lost were against Man City and Liverpool. Yes there were draws they will look at as drop points but show me a team that doesn't have that. Now is the time for them to regroup, recover and push on for the last stages of the season knowing they have a top 4 opportunity. If they don't make it then it would be a slight disappointment I'm sure however I still think if they finish 6 that is a great season for them at the moment. Just because a team was in X position in the table at one point doesn't mean anything. They've even got 2 game in hand over Spurs so anything can happen at the moment.
@@micah.101 united got wrecked by a Liverpool team that haven't been great this season but are climbing up the table and are 7 points behind united. Spurs will grind out results even though they don't play good football and scrape top 4 imo. United were over performing and got a reality check
So ironic that he’s saying this when Newcastle spent money on a relegation threatened side but Chelsea have spent more on a side that were in the UCL places last season
Newcastle having only been around top 4 this season bc of liverpools shocking form. Newcastle draws made their position in the league up for grabs. Newcastle finish 6th and getting Europa league is still a fantastic season. They will spend money and get top 4 ahead of man United next year
Rory is talking pish, overselling Newcastle for clickbaity nonsense. Newcastle are heading in the right direction but still do not have a 1st 11 capable of CL footy. They probably will by the start of next season but currently Europa would be a fitting and good finish spot.
Newcastle aim at the start of the season was top 10 with a cup run.. They're massively overperforming so a reasonable aim now given current situation would be a top 7 finish. Regarding the top 4 its clearly nailed on City, Arsenal, United, Liverpool. Relegation battle discussion on the other hand is super exciting
Yep, hard for us United fans to say much. Pleased with the season so far but Sunday was a stark reminder of how far there is to go. A few fans definitely got a bit ahead of themselves with this United side and the media certainly did.
Rorry bro you talk nonsense 😅 beginning of the season Tottenham was hyped to challenge for the tittle and finish second after what a brilliant transfer they had. Now all of a sudden they are not champions league level😅. How does your opinion change after every game lool. Shocking from you geeza
So let me get this straight from Rory, Newcastle start the season with reasonable goals of probably being in the top half/8 of the league. They do pretty well and because of that they should change all their seasons expectations around a spell of good form and if they don't continue that it's been a failure??? And to top that off sack the manager because he exceeded expectations for a time? He's saying to sack a manager because he exceeded expectations? Absolute nonsense talk.
Rory chatting nonsense. Obviously missing out on top 4 for Newcastle would suck, but they’re way ahead of schedule. They’ll stay with the top 6 for years to come
Rory saying that Newcastle have spent massive money & that they're now underperforming when his own team has had 600m injected into the squad and they're sat in 10th place. Getting to a cup final & finishing top 6 for Newcastle at the start of the season is a great season, they are still relying on players like Schar, Almiron, Joelinton, Longstaff. They don't have the squad depth to compete with these other teams around them and that's clear when they are bringing the likes of Jacob Murphy, Targett and Lascelles off the bench.
Newcastle will end up 6th, behind Liverpool and Spurs. Which I think is best for them. Go and actually win the conference League ‘24. 5th and Europa would be too tough. No one wants the Europa cup, so if you’re going into that, you desperately wanna win it. But I don’t think they would be able, sooo many good teams gonna end up there next season too. So therefore 6th and Conf. league is the best for them anyways. And then aim for top 4 by summer ‘24 after some new players come in.
Tbf I actually agree with Rory. The point he's making is that with all the money spent (around €300 mil) to NOT finish top 4 while Chelsea are mid table, Spurs win or lose, a Liverpool team in crisis without a midfield, and a UTD team being smacked every few months and were way behind them is disappointing, not bad. Still good for Howe but disappointing. And before anyone brings up how Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool are also dropping points yes and their being called out for it. People rightfully want Conte and Potter sacked and want FSG to sell Liverpool. And also Newcastle were a mid table team who were only in a relegation dog fight because of their incompetent manager who was sacked in disgrace for being shit. People are comparing Howe to managers and clubs who are failing. Not succeeding. Newcastle have done well but no miracle. Same with Seven Hag and even to an extent Arteta if he doesn't win the prem.
Honestly, as a Newcastle fan, I couldn’t disagree more with Rory. Underwhelming if we don’t finish in the top 4? We were nearly relegated last season. Top 7 would be an insane improvement, a huge step forward. In Eddie Howe we trust.
Between August and this weekend Liverpool have been in No Mans Land and struggling. Chelsea cant buy a win and are well under par and below the level they should be. Spurs are inconsistent. This is why Newcastle are where they are and have been. There were 3 spaces in that cemented top 6 which they occupied. Newcastle are massively over-achieving this season and finishing outside of the top 4 would not be a disappointment. The aim has been to develop from a team that has flirted with relegation and suffered relegation twice into a challenger for the top 6 over several years not in 1 season. I am one happy Mag with the way this season has panned out.
Rory is being unfair here ... I think people when Newcastle got taken over they just instantly compared them to City ... Back when City was bought out there wasn't as much regulations with FFP as there are now and it even took City 3 years after their takeover to reach the top 4 so regardless if Newcastle finish in 9th this season and reached a league cup final is a improvement from finishing 11th last season ... It's going to take time and the way Newcastle are doing it is a 'pure' way to do it ... They are not looking for 80m+ signings in every position they are buying for the future like Gordon (even though I don't rate him) and proven winners now like Trippier so for Rory to say coming 5th isn't good enough is outrageous and i'm not even a Newcastle fan so it shouldn't bother me 😂But he can't say Newcastle spending this much and finishing 5th is a issue when he is a Chelsea fan who can't beat Spurs after spending over half a billion in 1 season
It's kind of frightening that Rory of all people do not understand Buvey's point. Even if we pretended Newcastle were the top spenders this season, there is a relative concept of what kind of squad they had. If Team A has invested £500 mil squad that competed for Top 4 and spends £100 mil, and Team B that competed for relegation with a £100 mil squad, spending £300 mil in one season doesn't give them a better squad than Team A. It was quite clear to the naked eye that Newcastle overperformed. Further to that, Rory is arguing that Newcastle needs to win or it will be disappointing, while arguing against it being a disappointment vis a vis Spurs, because they lose every other game. Newcastle haven't won a game in quite a while, Spurs has. Teams that don't cut it will dip. Teams that cut it will turn their poor seasons around. LFC is turning things around, Spurs is stabilizing by being win/lose. Newcastle are dipping because they have stopped winning, which is on par with their progress.
'Newcastle haven't half spent a lot of money' - said by the spoilt and deluded Chelsea fan. You actually couldn't write it, Rory's just saying stuff purely for clicks now - there isn't a shred of critical thinking in any argument he makes.Trying to say that Newcastle spending 200 million on a side that was in a relegation battle last year is a lot of money when spurs, chelsea arsenal man united and liverpool all spent money improving squads that were already far better than Newcastles is crazy. No point taking him seriously anymore hes a joke
Newcastle got to watch there position right now with Fulham, Brighton and Brentford are right behind them with extra games to play. All 3 teams have been consistent and I heard Brentford are unbeaten in 12 games. With them three just behind, Newcastle better be careful of falling out of a European position and from how they started this season up until the world Cup that be be wounding to them.
the different expectations vs. find a way talk would have been fair if we disregard everything about the last couple seasons. a lot of this Newcastle squad were almost relegated! we were in absolute shambles and to even be contemplating fighting for top 4 is a complete paradigm shift for us. as long as the lads work hard, no real NUFC fan will be disappointed with 6th for instance. we simply lack the quality in key moments to compete with the traditional top 6 when they play at their expected level
I think what Rory forgets is that circumstances matter. Yes you can look at Newcastle based on this season and say yes £200m’s no CL sitting in third pre World Cup and that’s failure. However Newcastles recent past matters cause they’re still affected by it, it hasn’t been long either. To go from relegation, mid table, then fighting for top 4 you’d call that a success.
I see what Rory is saying. If Arsenal were in 6th this year rather than likely finishing top four, you have to look at the previous season and say, "we should have rode that momentum and finished top four last year." Newcastle are ahead of schedule but we dont know what next season will bring. What we do know is they have a great shot this year at making top 4 and it would be disappointing not to.
1. That’s not his point, his point is that Newcastle were in a position and didn’t keep it , basically if Newcastle were never in 4th he would never criticise him. Worst part is he’s been saying for the past month that Liverpool will get top 4 over them . 2. If arsenal were in 6th this year that would be a literal decline because we were 5th last year. Newcastle fought relegation off in half a season and got like 10th place. They are currently 5th. That is progression , there is no way you can say Howe has failed or it even be underwhelming. When do you ever see a team go from relegation to straight champions league? Never. It’s just a terrible take from Rory and any European football will be great for a Geordie
Rory going on about they used to call it the top 4, it was hard to get in it. Now they call it the top 6… so therefore it should be harder for a team to get in the top 4… £200m from pretty much a championship squad is not much to get into top 4. Teams in the second half of the table spend more. Nonsense
I think it may come down to Brighton and Liverpool for that last spot, with Liverpool being the favorite. Spurs and Newcastle look like they’re ready for a vacation, and Brentford and Fulham aren’t quite good enough.
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Rory is waffling so much, Eddie Howe has done an excellent job, most Newcastle fans never expected to be in a UCL chase in March
He hates NUFC, has done for years.
Done a good job in a weak premier league season where all his rivals are in Europe. Wait till next season and judge him
@@Boxinghotspur57 weak premier league? this is the first time in years there are so many competitive teams brighton, fulham, arsenal, man united, spurs, brentford, liverpool, city, newcastle...
@@Nightsu because city and Liverpool are in a transition period. We all know if they were in the same form as last year itd be at best a 3 horse race
@@Nightsuthe better teams are worse than normal, hence why ur seeing Brentford brighton Fulham do so well
Rory's takes on comparisons between newcastle and spurs were shocking
Most of his takes are, just being controversial for the views.
I feel like he likes certain managers and hates other managers. He hates Eddie Howe and Brendan Rodgers but like Conte. So for Howe and Rodgers not to get Top 4 with mediocre sides its shocking and a disgrace but for Spurs its not Conte thats bad its that their players are shocking and not playing well.
Calling Eddie Howe "anti-football" is padded cell stuff lol, Conte is anti-football. Howe is actually a footballing manager.
@@George-wv5hf Unfortunately, the channel is just clickbait
He was wrong in saying it was Chelsea and Tottenham who got in instead of Leicester it was Liverpool and Chelsea got 3rd and 4th that season
Rory is like Will from The Inbetweeners. Speaks a load of stupid shite but uses fancy words so people think he sounds smart. His ball knowledge is shocking... entertaining tho
Rory a Chelsea fan saying Newcastle spent loads is the funniest thing
So funny, he obviously can't count
@@doghouseriley4732 Carol Voderman isn't his middle name!
🤣🤣🤣 it's cracking in it
But he's not defending Chelsea or Potter so the point's valid.
Newcastle signings were from regulation battle and mid table teams they have no right to be top 6 based on that especially the way top 6 teams teams spend. Rory in the mud on this one
Whenever Buvey tries to go into detail, Rory shuts it down or moves the goalposts. That’s because we all know if you go into detail about anything Rory says, he’s 99% wrong.
A Man City who wants to go into details until it gets to financial doping and cheating, interesting.................................
Rory is a bafoon!
Buvey talks too much rubbish though....
Love how Rory says Eddie Howe is anti football like Simeone but has harped on about how Simeone is who Chelsea should hire as Chelsea manager 😂
Calling Howe anti football is crazy talk, mental hospital stuff. Especially as he'd never say that about Conte who actually is anti football.
Classic. He thinks Howe is anti football? What about Mourinho and Conte?
I was thinking this same thing, he claims to love Simeone.
Rory cannot keep to his own narratives for more than a single conversation
Simeone is brilliant so if anything that should be seen as a compliment 😂
He flip flops a lot and can't keep his stories straight because all he does is ''act''
It's all a braindead character he plays up for TH-cam. So much fake outrage whenever he's recording a post match video for his own channel and reading a script. You can literally see his eyes wander off to his script lmao
Saying this season would be a disappointment if Newcastle don't finish in the top 4 is a nonsense.
This season the only objective was to solidify as a top 10 club, NO ONE was expecting us to spend a lot of time in the top 4, even with the investment.
Rory just says outrageous shit
But you've clearly proven you deserve a spot in the top 4 so not taking one would be disappointing
Disappointed considering Newcastle were the most inform team in england on form for a long time
This is what every football podcast does now.
If a team is doing well, they gas them up and hype up their chances, only so they can tear them down if they fail. If not, pretend you were Nostradamus and take credit for your amazing take.
It's why Rory has so many "Arteta's the best manager in the league" and "Arteta's awful" takes on record. Everyone's trying to hedge their bets so they look smarter than they are.
It's why none of the Man Utd fans on any of these podcasts was willing to openly accept that they're in a title challenge. Because they know that they'd be clowned relentlessly if they say that, then don't win the title.
Realistically, if Newcastle finish 5th, or Arsenal finish 2nd, or Man Utd finish 4th, it's still been a great season. But people will be calling them bottlejobs regardless, even if they do better than anyone predicted they would at the start of the season. Exactly what happened with Arsenal last season: people who predicted Arsenal finish bottom half were saying Arsenal failed because they finished 5th...
Disappointing being the most boring side to watch in England
The more you watch Rory the more you realise he has no idea what he’s talking about it’s generally impressive that someone can watch football this many years and still have absolutely no idea what he is talking about hats off to him
mate, its an atrocity to the institution
Never known someone to love their own voice so much
@@WeatherleysWorkshop why’s he getting vexed about this? There’s only one side that’s ‘heated’ man chats the most
To be honest with you pal I don't think he is that clueless or stupid more than anyone else personally I hate to say it but I think he says things sometimes to get a reaction? ie for example like the haaland thing before the season started saying he wasn't a good player maybe I am wrong but having said that all football pundits who are more famous and well known than he is say things you can disagree with at times it's opinion at the end of the day ain't it really we all have an opinion on football it's easy but you don't have to listen to the opinion or agree with the opinion of every single football pundit do you thankfully really ?🤣
The more you watch football punditry in general the more you realise that they don't have to know. That said, never forget Rory is a failed actor. Geezer knows how to put on an act and knows that that's exactly what gets clicks.
the idea that Eddie Howe should go if Newcastle don't get top 4 is actually insane
Unless theres fergie reincarnated, hes the best for the job
I don't think Rory said that. He said it would be disappointing which it kinda would be.
*Graham Potter is perfect* for Newcastle, Pocchetino for Chelsea, Eddie Howe for West Ham he deserves a London Club.
@@vaffangool9196 lol you mean the guy that has Chelsea behind Fulham and Brighton?
@@gamerforever2489
*Yeah I do.* Too many balls in the air at Chelsea, too many egos, too many club signings, too much very expensive deadwood, and not enough authority invested in the gaffer's office. Newcastle have a pragmatic, data-driven system of analysis and recruiting in place that is much more akin to the support infrastructure he enjoyed at Brighton-as do Fulham and Brentford, which should come as no surprise.
How is Rory saying Newcastle have a better squad than Spurs. Newcastle starting 11 is very poor compared to the top 6 and Howe is doing a very good job considering the squad
It's bordeline psychotic talk. I don't believe for a second Rory believes it either, he is just a Conte fanboy and hates Eddie Howe(and Brendan Rodgers). Does he really think Romero, Davies, Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Kulusevski, Son, Kane dont get a game before Schar, Burn, Longstaff, Joelinton, Almiron, Saint-Maximin, Wilson.
Yeah he's off his rocker.
The Newcastle squad is way better squad than spurs 😂
@@hothead5395 🤡👏🏻
@@Djcnufc that’s just ridiculous, the Newcastle squad isn’t much better than West Ham
Rory managed it 5 minutes before talking about Brendan Rodgers 😂
Rory I normally see where you come from but you've an absolute nightmare here. Newcastle were fighting relaxation 18 months ago and for them to be even looking at finishing in the top 6, Is phenomenal. I get your point however they need time to build a squad capable of competing against the top dogs
Rory always makes the point that expectations change as the season goes on and I somewhat agree. But just because an expectation changes half way through the season doesn't mean the original expectation should be completely discredited. Yes Newcastle will feel disappointed if they don't make top 4, but does that mean finishing 5th/6th is now a failure? Of course not.
Yeah, expectations change but not in the way he changes them. Here he only talks about right now, like when they compare Spurs players and Newcastle players, yeah Newcastle players are in better form but doesn't make them better players. So if the expectations for Newcastle were like 8-9 place. maybe trying to get 7th and they had a great season so far so I would say that if they finish 7th now it would be a bit bad because they would need to have a significant drop of form but if they continue to be in top 4 battle till the end and they miss out it will still be a great season for them...
There are also other factors, they've been helped by the fact that Chelsea and Liverpool are having very bad seasons so far and are playing below their actual quality, so if Chelsea and Liverpool manage to turn things around and go on to have a great end of the season that would be Newcastle's or Eddie How's fault, and I fully expect Liverpool to finish above Newcastle and Chelsea to improve, they currently are unrealistically bad...
Rory is waffling so much. Such because Newcastle can massively overperform for half a season doesn't change the expectations drastically for where they should finish. They still need to get rid of about 11 players at least and improve on them
We need 14 new players
The best part he is a Chelsea fan and they spent half a billion in 1 year and they are Battling for top 10 with Villa but Newcastle with less money challenging for top 4 is bad?
"Howe needs to forget planning and building for the future and just go for the here and now, like arteta..."
Like arteta hasn't spent years building to this season often sacrificing short term results for long term gain
Reckon Liverpool will get 4th now. FFS!
I think they are coming for your third spot matey
Honestly I think if they finish anywhere in top 8 it’s a decent enough season, top 6 is a good season, and top 4 is a great season
Why is Rory (The Chelsea Fan) banging on about Newcastle’s money spending. We’ve spent significantly less than our piers in the top 10 over the last 3/4 years and our starting point was worse. We were relegated in 2016? Where were Chelsea in 2017? Title winners yet they’ve spent over a billion since then and we’re still above them…
Rory just shows the lack of actual football knowledge Chelsea fans have like fair play to his vocabulary but I feel like it’s his eloquence and word selection that has got him this far because his football knowledge is about as good Todd boehlys
I remember Chelsea before Abramovich. Relegation fodder most seasons, the odd cup run, a UEFA CWC win and a bit of success with Matthew Harding's money. That's it. Most Chelsea fans only count the Premier League years.............................
@@doghouseriley4732 Chelsea’s history is basically from 1990 onwards the club was always cannon fodder for big clubs Rory’s teenage years/childhood saw success at a club that had never really had a successful history and tries to make out that something that happened in the 2000s is now football heritage like get a fucking clue the game is hundreds of years old not decades Preston North End have a footballing museum Chelsea has a couple of pictures of some Russian billionaire smiling at his billions ruining the game we all love
I can kind of see where Rory is coming from, but I have to agree more with Buvey on this. We (Newcastle) punched above our weight in the first half of the season, and I always thought it would be difficult for us to stay in the top 4 even when we were briefly sitting in 3rd. For a team that was in a relegation battle last season, to say that not getting top 4 the season immediately after is underwhelming is crazy when you think about it. I personally think our focus now should be on finishing 6th, and fending off the likes of Brighton, Brentford and Fulham for that spot. Heck, even finishing 7th and getting a Conference spot, coupled with getting to a Cup final - I'd have ripped your arm off for that at the start of the season! Yes we've spent nearly £200m, but that is what it has taken for us to just become a solid team that isn't in a relegation battle. When the top teams are spending £60-100m on a single player, I don't think it's ridiculous to say it will take another £500m (possibly more) for us to become a consistent top 4 team.
We need 14 new players
This aged like fine milk about Newcastle.
1. Arsenal
2. Manchester City
3. Liverpool
4. Brighton
5. Manchester United
6. Newcastle
7. Fulham
Rory literally has no idea what he’s talking about. He fails to mention the 600million his club have spent and the endless amount of money forest have spent who are below us😂
Deflecting from the appalling season Chelsea have had after spend a gazillion. Interesting to see these players when their form goes and Chelsea realise the still have 5-6 years left on their contracts. That's going to be a financial nightmare for them.
Rory chatting a load of waffle in this clip, says newcastle have spent fortunes and then proceeds to list Pope, Trippier and Burn all of whom were signed for less than 15 mil. Batman, Isak and Gordon only other signings and they rack up to about 120 mil. Still not a huge amount of money in todays landscape
Batman 🤣🤣🤣
Surely Rory moaning about how much Newcastle spent applies to chelsea, but his logic chelsea must win everything
That Joelinton take proves you don’t watch football. 18th highest average player rating in the league on WhoScored.
I’m convinced if Newcastle get Europa or Conference League their fans would be happy to have European games back at St James’. Sometimes you forget the quality they’re up against. Liverpool are now breathing down their necks and look better, it was always going to be difficult.
We will be happy trust me, still feels like a lost opportunity though when we had the chance to strengthen in January and were sat in 3rd
Look at how it turned out for Chelsea… I’m sure Eddie Howe would have brought more players in if he felt he needed them.
Might sound backward but I'd prefer Newcastle to get 5th as I think we're someway off champions league but could have a good run in Europa and it'd be a nice building block to where we want to go.
But if we don't find our form again and can't hit the back of net top 8 will do 😂 that was what I hoped for at start of season
Europa is a killer mate. Your better off getting top 4 and just taling that experience in.
True europas very winnable look at the final last year whereas champions league unless you get a lucky group there’s a fair chance you don’t get out the group stage
I think I would take the experience of the champions league over a better run in Europa. Plus more of your key players would be inclined to stay at Newcastle for the champions league instead of jumping to a different champions league team's side.
@@sliferchris2292 how many newcastle players can start or even get into champions league teams lmao
@@Leo-tn3epI think Trippier and Botman could do fine and if they lose them they've lost most of there defensive strength then what?
Rory is so annoying. Makes Buvey sound like the most rational, reasonable man in the world.
£101m on Gordon, Ashby, Wood, Targett and Dan Burn. Isak, Lewis and Saint-Maximin on the bench? No left back, midfielder, playmaker and striker signed in Jan. HOWE OUT
Rory generally lost the script midway through that argument
Loses the plot most of the time. This is what happens when Brian is not running the show
@@doghouseriley4732 ur a racist
Howe should be sacked if Newcastle don’t get top 4. With their lavish spending and the travails of Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs to a lesser degree, they should be walking it.
It will be Arsenal (around 93), City (around 86) United (around 76) Liverpool (around 70)
Rory showing his downright ignorance (he hasn’t watched much Newcastle matches) and he has completely missed the quality of Joelinton, Almiron, and others in the squad. Quality may not match that of the 50/100M player that other teams can get, but Rory is spouting utter diarrhoea. I like Rory but his ignorance deserves a lot of misery for his Chelsea.
There was an argument a couple of months back about Newcastle (in 3rd at that time) were best positioned for top 4 other than City and Arsenal because they had the best defence and will only have to play once a week during the back end when other teams will have to deal with injuries.
I'm not even a Spurs fans and I'm shaking my head in disbelief of Rory's shit takes about them in this video. They don't have a CL squad? Give over man, there is a limit to how far bias can blind you.
Embarrassingly wrong on Newcastle
Yes, they've spent a fair bit, but if Newcastle finish the season with Europa League and league Cup finalists, they should be proud of that. Been very impressed with their decision making thus far. Just gonna admire them now before I despise them in five years time 😂
Newcastle could've easily scored 3/4 goals at city if they had finished their chances but they whiffed them all, newcastle need an out and out striker that's their problem, callum wilson is atrocious
Not only does this guy look like a cross between Morrisey and Colin Firth, but he also speaks like Boris Johnson.
Rory is chatting so much nonsense, Buvey names players and he says they are playing badly so it doesn’t count despite those players showing levels for years and then he try’s to name players like dan burn , Wilson and Almiron who were in form but are poor now yet still they should be doing better . Such a flawed argument. This is the worst ever take I’ve heard from Rory and usually I agree with him
Can't be hard to Newcastle, religation fight last year. Had a great start and our defence has been top notch we have a lot of heart and effort but lacking skill. Our squad isnt deep enough to finish top 4. We are competing with Utd, liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea. We spent a lot of money but we hadn't spend hardly anything in previous 5 years. Our squad went from a championship side to a good premierleague side with 180Mil. Another window or 2 then we can talk about top 4 fight.
I wouldnt say competing with United the 2 games lost one and should've lost the other and thats with United playing every single possible match in all competitions so far with a limited squad for that amount of games
but the rest 100% competing with them
It's your forward line you need to improve 100%. It's been a good season of improvement but I feel you wasted the January window.....it *could* have been a lot better regardless of how it finishes now. I think Eddie is a good manager but I think he'll be the guy before the guy who really gets you competing for the biggest honours
I hate this whole 'expectations change when the facts change'. Newcastle were performing to their absolute maximum ability at the start of the season. You can't then take that version of the team and say 'you know what, this is who they are so they should end like this too'. Maybe, just maybe this team is now just playing closer to their normal level. Just because they spent time in the top 4 and were insane doesn't mean they now suddenly are expected to be a top 4 team after 1 damn summer.
Also they spent a lot of money, Rory? come on now. YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT MONEY DOESNT EQUAL RESULTS. They've spent equal money this season as Forrest, Spurs, West Ham, Wolves, Arsenal and far less than United and Chelsea. Only 2 teams of those are above them. Start fucking going at Forest or West Ham, not Newcastle who could make top 4. Its ridiculous.
As a Newcastle fan if we don’t get top 7th then I’d say it’s been a disappointing end to the season if we get top 7th I’m very pleased
Newcastle’s number one sub this season has been Jacob Murphy and for large parts Chris Wood. You can’t tell me that anyone with that kind of squad depth should expect Champions League. As for Rory’s ‘anti-football’ take on Eddie Howe, Newcastle have beaten Brentford 5-1 this season, Fulham 4-1, Aston Villa 4-0, Leicester 3-0 and drawn with Man City 3-3 in one of the best games of the season. It’s absolute nonsense and I wish someone would pick him up on it
Give over man. Our squad is decent with a couple of actual quality players. Its nowhere near top 4 interms of talent and Top 6 would be a unbelievable season.
As long as Newcastle make top 6 and get into the Europa League then it’s a great season for them. Anything below that would be a disappointment.
Conference League would still be ok but if they fall below that then it’s a disaster
If Rory only cares about current form then is it a disappointment if Brentford don’t win the league?
Dont forget we had a run of draws earlier in the season and then went on to win 6 out of 7, that could happen very easily the problem is we are massively under performing our XG and have seemingly forgotten how to put the ball in the net, seems like Howe may have instilled in the team the need to score the perfect goal with the highest chance.
Your xG is based on the past. You’re ‘massively under performing’ it because the new owner buzz has worn off and the likes of Wilson ASM Almiron longstaff burn trippier are coming back to their actual form. You haven’t just forgotten how to score goals. New signings needed and they’ll be made I’m sure
XG is useless. ‘Expected Goals’ is different when u have either Kane or Wilson having those chances.
@@oliverblack3722 That is what he's suggesting. The reason you could match your goals to your xG beforehand is because a lot of the average players in your squad were in a purple patch and outperforming their level such as Almiron. Your front 3 is virtually identical to the same front 3 you fought relegation with for years being Wilson, ASM and Almiron who would rarely ever score as many goals as they have this season. Pair that with the fact the most clinical player at your club, in Wilson, is out of form it would suggest why you're underperforming your xG so drastically.
@@1882Stu That's because on average it shows the creative threat of a team. It's much easier for a team with an average forward to have 10 xG and score 10 goals rather than a team with a world class forward to have 2 xG and score 10. It's much easier to replicate good chance creation from tactics than it is to rely on moments of brilliance from a player like Kane for continued games on end.
@@fplben8652 but having a 1/10 striker or a 10/10 striker upfront drastically improves an expected goal. The stat is for nerds and doesn’t make sense. Who is expected to score it? Chris Wood or Salah? What if it falls on the players wrong foot? They’re not gonna be expected to score it as much but the stat doesn’t take any of that into account. It’s useless
Pretty shocking that Eddie Howe hasn’t turned Matt Ritchie into David ginola tbf #howeout
Sarcasm matey? But it is strange as he with Callum Wilson were his best players at Bournemouth and he barely uses Ritchie
He's been amazing otherwise as manager
Howe has to go
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Before the season started i had us ( utd ) outside of the top 6 😭
I don’t think united will be top 3 4th or 5th
@@Hassan32132 we will be we lost 7-0 but we’ll be fine for top 4
@@therenoufking4998 nah but 1 or 2 more injuries u could be done for
@@Hassan32132 i personally not on board with the rashford hype and people think if he injured we fucked no if Casemiro is long term injured then we fucked
Dan Burn should not be our starting LB he gets exposed consistently against higher level opposition. He's a CB who covers as LB and is a valuable member of our squad but he just totally impairs our left side not just defensively but offensively
I would agree with you that’s he’s not our ideal left back for the foreseeable future but for the here now and I wouldn’t have him out of the team yeah he’s not performed recently but the whole team hasn’t and before that he was easily one of our best players and just because he’s going through a rough bit of form I think it would be unfair to boot him out of the team give him a bit more time and if he still doesn’t perform then it’s time for Targett to take his place
would like to see Target come back in for few games now myself
Agreed. He's shocking. We need Raphael Guerriero
Why are they acting that dan burn, trippier, Botman and pope are very expensive signings?
as a newcastle fan this was so unbelievably off we have longstaff burn and almiron playing every week should be nowhere near top 4 and for the money we spent 200m but buvey is right it started from a relegation squad with relegation players still in the team
If I was a Newcastle fan I'd be Dming Brian telling how much shit thios lot are chatting. Brian needs to get up and running again
I’m a toon fan. We’re so predictable we play the same way every game. Trippier or burn gets it then plays to Bruno then it goes to our wingers. We’ve been found out
Yep. Howe needs to go. We should be changing things. Isak should be playing. Jamal Lewis needs to come in for Burn. Longstaff is useless. Almiron is playing out of position. He's a cam
His remit was top half finish. We've got that and a cup final. Final third is awful. If we had Leicester's attacking unit with our defense we would be up there.
Déjà vu. Rory made the same arguments last year about Arsenal and Arteta. Now look at them. Safe to say, ignore Rorys calls for a managers head.
Not sure if Rory knows what he’s talking about regarding Newcastle. Even as an Arsenal fan that game was annoying but that aside, they do play good football. Even city had only 34% possession against Arsenal. Thought Rory would have seen how Newcastle looked like prime Barca against Chelsea just before the World Cup.
I just don't agree with Rory on this "expectations change" thing. He means to say if Newcastle weren't in the top four but were 6-7th all season, then nicked 5th on the final day, it would be a better season than if they were in the top four all season and eventually finish 5th, it would be underwhelming? What logic is that?
The club is actually so much better than the kick off, Geordie consistently had the dumbest takes and he was supposed to be the 'leader' of the channel, this is way better.
You really think so? If they called it Talk Shite, I could understand it. It's clickbait rubbish
@@doghouseriley4732 What about this title baited you into clicking lmao
Everytime I watch, I am always fascinated by how clueless Rory is when it comes to "football knowledge".
It has to be an act at this point.
buvey is right. just looked at the table and they could legit finish 9th. they fell off quick, damn
OF COURSE, Liverpool will get top 3. It's all about whether or not united can get 4th or whether Spurs come good and knock united down to 5th.
Still many games remaining so I honestly wouldn't write-off Liverpool getting third now that they have momentum. Think Newcastle will drop out and United/Spurs/Liverpool will fight for 3rd/4th. I predicted Arsenal to be title challengers way back at the very start of the season and still think they will win the league.
As a Liverpool fan united have 3rd locked in my opinion reactionary
@@lewisepicfootycontent5934 United fan and half agree but only takes 2 bad games to be in that fight with Liverpool and Spurs
@@user-dj6mj5ck6s it’s all about how you react to the loss but I’m confident you guys bounce back
@@lewisepicfootycontent5934 We should but you never know. The next two games will tell us a lot about United and Liverpool. United need to respond against Betis and Southampton. Liverpool need to try and take that momentum into the Madrid match. I'm half hoping you turn Madrid over. Would rather see more English teams in the Champions League.
@@monkey39128 look on our day we can beat Madrid 3-0 but no clue what Liverpool will show up , I feel the same way I hope chelsea and spurs end up going through with the exception of City because I don’t want them to win it ever lol
Newcastle have just come through a period of playing in the latter stages of the cup with a squad that is not built to sustain winning 2 games a week and with no forwards in form. And in that time the only league games they have lost were against Man City and Liverpool. Yes there were draws they will look at as drop points but show me a team that doesn't have that.
Now is the time for them to regroup, recover and push on for the last stages of the season knowing they have a top 4 opportunity. If they don't make it then it would be a slight disappointment I'm sure however I still think if they finish 6 that is a great season for them at the moment.
Just because a team was in X position in the table at one point doesn't mean anything. They've even got 2 game in hand over Spurs so anything can happen at the moment.
Top 4 - arsenal,city, Liverpool and Tottenham. United finish 5th
Pffft as an Arsenal fan thats bold. United will get 4th imo
@@micah.101 united got wrecked by a Liverpool team that haven't been great this season but are climbing up the table and are 7 points behind united. Spurs will grind out results even though they don't play good football and scrape top 4 imo. United were over performing and got a reality check
So ironic that he’s saying this when Newcastle spent money on a relegation threatened side but Chelsea have spent more on a side that were in the UCL places last season
Newcastle having only been around top 4 this season bc of liverpools shocking form. Newcastle draws made their position in the league up for grabs. Newcastle finish 6th and getting Europa league is still a fantastic season. They will spend money and get top 4 ahead of man United next year
Not with Eddie Howe in charge. The bloke wasted £101m on Gordon, Ashby, Wood, Targett and Dan Burn
Rory is talking pish, overselling Newcastle for clickbaity nonsense.
Newcastle are heading in the right direction but still do not have a 1st 11 capable of CL footy. They probably will by the start of next season but currently Europa would be a fitting and good finish spot.
Newcastle aim at the start of the season was top 10 with a cup run.. They're massively overperforming so a reasonable aim now given current situation would be a top 7 finish. Regarding the top 4 its clearly nailed on City, Arsenal, United, Liverpool. Relegation battle discussion on the other hand is super exciting
My Top 4
Arsenal
City
United
Liverpool
- I just see Liverpool to go on a good run and spurs and Newcastle dropping off
Brighton are in the mix. Haven’t watched yet but not sure they’ll get a mention
Agree with Buvey. Providing they get European football, Newcastle have had a great season imo.
Our squad with ben arfa coloccini cisse ba cabaye Gutierrez tiote etc was better
Pardew was a mint manager at 1 stage tbh mate
Adams was so quiet and humble after Liverpool thrashing. I like that 😊
Yep, hard for us United fans to say much. Pleased with the season so far but Sunday was a stark reminder of how far there is to go. A few fans definitely got a bit ahead of themselves with this United side and the media certainly did.
He need to learn to keep his mouth shut like this. 😂😂
Rorry bro you talk nonsense 😅 beginning of the season Tottenham was hyped to challenge for the tittle and finish second after what a brilliant transfer they had. Now all of a sudden they are not champions league level😅. How does your opinion change after every game lool. Shocking from you geeza
Newcastle is overachieving Just like UTD and Arsenal
So let me get this straight from Rory, Newcastle start the season with reasonable goals of probably being in the top half/8 of the league. They do pretty well and because of that they should change all their seasons expectations around a spell of good form and if they don't continue that it's been a failure??? And to top that off sack the manager because he exceeded expectations for a time?
He's saying to sack a manager because he exceeded expectations? Absolute nonsense talk.
Rory chatting nonsense. Obviously missing out on top 4 for Newcastle would suck, but they’re way ahead of schedule. They’ll stay with the top 6 for years to come
The United fan just thinking about the 7-0.
Rory saying that Newcastle have spent massive money & that they're now underperforming when his own team has had 600m injected into the squad and they're sat in 10th place. Getting to a cup final & finishing top 6 for Newcastle at the start of the season is a great season, they are still relying on players like Schar, Almiron, Joelinton, Longstaff. They don't have the squad depth to compete with these other teams around them and that's clear when they are bringing the likes of Jacob Murphy, Targett and Lascelles off the bench.
If almiron is overrated, what does that make grealish
Almiron is far superior to Grealish
When I have to say buvey is right then you know Rory is waffling massively
Newcastle will end up 6th, behind Liverpool and Spurs. Which I think is best for them. Go and actually win the conference League ‘24. 5th and Europa would be too tough. No one wants the Europa cup, so if you’re going into that, you desperately wanna win it. But I don’t think they would be able, sooo many good teams gonna end up there next season too. So therefore 6th and Conf. league is the best for them anyways. And then aim for top 4 by summer ‘24 after some new players come in.
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Rory has a 2 month time horizon for all opinions. Doesn’t seem to understand most players go through peaks and troughs.
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Newcastle we’re never supposed to be in top 4 race this season. Their project has only just started.
Tbf I actually agree with Rory. The point he's making is that with all the money spent (around €300 mil) to NOT finish top 4 while Chelsea are mid table, Spurs win or lose, a Liverpool team in crisis without a midfield, and a UTD team being smacked every few months and were way behind them is disappointing, not bad. Still good for Howe but disappointing. And before anyone brings up how Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool are also dropping points yes and their being called out for it. People rightfully want Conte and Potter sacked and want FSG to sell Liverpool. And also Newcastle were a mid table team who were only in a relegation dog fight because of their incompetent manager who was sacked in disgrace for being shit. People are comparing Howe to managers and clubs who are failing. Not succeeding. Newcastle have done well but no miracle. Same with Seven Hag and even to an extent Arteta if he doesn't win the prem.
Honestly, as a Newcastle fan, I couldn’t disagree more with Rory. Underwhelming if we don’t finish in the top 4? We were nearly relegated last season. Top 7 would be an insane improvement, a huge step forward. In Eddie Howe we trust.
Between August and this weekend Liverpool have been in No Mans Land and struggling. Chelsea cant buy a win and are well under par and below the level they should be. Spurs are inconsistent. This is why Newcastle are where they are and have been. There were 3 spaces in that cemented top 6 which they occupied.
Newcastle are massively over-achieving this season and finishing outside of the top 4 would not be a disappointment. The aim has been to develop from a team that has flirted with relegation and suffered relegation twice into a challenger for the top 6 over several years not in 1 season.
I am one happy Mag with the way this season has panned out.
Rory is being unfair here ... I think people when Newcastle got taken over they just instantly compared them to City ... Back when City was bought out there wasn't as much regulations with FFP as there are now and it even took City 3 years after their takeover to reach the top 4 so regardless if Newcastle finish in 9th this season and reached a league cup final is a improvement from finishing 11th last season ... It's going to take time and the way Newcastle are doing it is a 'pure' way to do it ... They are not looking for 80m+ signings in every position they are buying for the future like Gordon (even though I don't rate him) and proven winners now like Trippier so for Rory to say coming 5th isn't good enough is outrageous and i'm not even a Newcastle fan so it shouldn't bother me 😂But he can't say Newcastle spending this much and finishing 5th is a issue when he is a Chelsea fan who can't beat Spurs after spending over half a billion in 1 season
It's kind of frightening that Rory of all people do not understand Buvey's point. Even if we pretended Newcastle were the top spenders this season, there is a relative concept of what kind of squad they had. If Team A has invested £500 mil squad that competed for Top 4 and spends £100 mil, and Team B that competed for relegation with a £100 mil squad, spending £300 mil in one season doesn't give them a better squad than Team A. It was quite clear to the naked eye that Newcastle overperformed. Further to that, Rory is arguing that Newcastle needs to win or it will be disappointing, while arguing against it being a disappointment vis a vis Spurs, because they lose every other game. Newcastle haven't won a game in quite a while, Spurs has. Teams that don't cut it will dip. Teams that cut it will turn their poor seasons around. LFC is turning things around, Spurs is stabilizing by being win/lose. Newcastle are dipping because they have stopped winning, which is on par with their progress.
'Newcastle haven't half spent a lot of money' - said by the spoilt and deluded Chelsea fan. You actually couldn't write it, Rory's just saying stuff purely for clicks now - there isn't a shred of critical thinking in any argument he makes.Trying to say that Newcastle spending 200 million on a side that was in a relegation battle last year is a lot of money when spurs, chelsea arsenal man united and liverpool all spent money improving squads that were already far better than Newcastles is crazy. No point taking him seriously anymore hes a joke
Newcastle got to watch there position right now with Fulham, Brighton and Brentford are right behind them with extra games to play. All 3 teams have been consistent and I heard Brentford are unbeaten in 12 games. With them three just behind, Newcastle better be careful of falling out of a European position and from how they started this season up until the world Cup that be be wounding to them.
the different expectations vs. find a way talk would have been fair if we disregard everything about the last couple seasons. a lot of this Newcastle squad were almost relegated! we were in absolute shambles and to even be contemplating fighting for top 4 is a complete paradigm shift for us. as long as the lads work hard, no real NUFC fan will be disappointed with 6th for instance.
we simply lack the quality in key moments to compete with the traditional top 6 when they play at their expected level
I think what Rory forgets is that circumstances matter. Yes you can look at Newcastle based on this season and say yes £200m’s no CL sitting in third pre World Cup and that’s failure. However Newcastles recent past matters cause they’re still affected by it, it hasn’t been long either. To go from relegation, mid table, then fighting for top 4 you’d call that a success.
I see what Rory is saying. If Arsenal were in 6th this year rather than likely finishing top four, you have to look at the previous season and say, "we should have rode that momentum and finished top four last year." Newcastle are ahead of schedule but we dont know what next season will bring. What we do know is they have a great shot this year at making top 4 and it would be disappointing not to.
1. That’s not his point, his point is that Newcastle were in a position and didn’t keep it , basically if Newcastle were never in 4th he would never criticise him.
Worst part is he’s been saying for the past month that Liverpool will get top 4 over them .
2. If arsenal were in 6th this year that would be a literal decline because we were 5th last year. Newcastle fought relegation off in half a season and got like 10th place. They are currently 5th.
That is progression , there is no way you can say Howe has failed or it even be underwhelming.
When do you ever see a team go from relegation to straight champions league? Never. It’s just a terrible take from Rory and any European football will be great for a Geordie
To say Newcastle have not had a good season if they finish 5th is a worse shout than haaland flopping
Rory going on about they used to call it the top 4, it was hard to get in it. Now they call it the top 6… so therefore it should be harder for a team to get in the top 4… £200m from pretty much a championship squad is not much to get into top 4. Teams in the second half of the table spend more. Nonsense
can we get a W for Buvey fighting against Rory
I think it may come down to Brighton and Liverpool for that last spot, with Liverpool being the favorite. Spurs and Newcastle look like they’re ready for a vacation, and Brentford and Fulham aren’t quite good enough.